Quitting while youre ahead is no sign of weakness but a sign of intelligence. I have been around sense before you bought the first house. I agree with you're decision and I'm sure most of us understand.
Never heard of this guy before but this is a shame. Seems like a genuine guy and as per normal the society we live in has ruined something I imagine was fun. Completely the right decision to make, you've got to protect yourself!
You are in a very unfortunate situation. I am so sorry for you. But, you are making the right decision. I appreciate how you have grown and matured over the years, but despite these challenges and obstacles "real life" throws your way, you Tanner, are not letting it beat you and you continue to live your life to the fullest possible. Congratulations! You are a real man.
It sucks as someone from the UK who has been a long-time fan of the channel as I was planning on flying over to the Flip Pad one day to better my skills :(
Dang it, that sux. I am sure you are an LLC. And the state with their 2 cents and people with their attorneys in their back pockets. Good choice to close to the public. Just remember your dignity and passion can never be taken away. Best of luck to you.
genuine question, why can’t you just make people sign a paper that says if they get hurt it’s on them and they can’t sue you? like they’re coming in at their own risk type thing?
I believe those laws of negligence and liability are dictated by the state, and could allow for someone to sue even if they sign a paper like that. Would have to look into Kansas specifically to know for sure
I find it another funny😮part of the USA. People complain about the Federal Goverment being a system of overreach - the reality the states, councils and HOA interfere unreasonably far more.
Aww man that sucks big time but look on the bright side. You got to gain so much experience, made friends and got to live out your dream. Even if it was for a short while. You have the memories. Maybe a company will sponsor you or go in business with you, you never know but in this day and age when everyone is suing everyone reluctantly you made the right choice. You've worked hard for your money and it would be unfair to put it all at risk. Keep jumping and look forward to the next adventure.
Um. It’s actually NOT an amusement park. But it’s like a gymnastics dojo and would fall under the same category as any Karate or MMA or any other “Gym” you can possibly think of! Amusement parts have rides and roller coasters and zoos and aquariums and all kinds of bullshit!
I mean he’s in the middle of know where how are people supposed to go to it and it’s very small for a lot of people so it’s kinda obvious that it would fail
Adulting. It’s tough. But you’re ahead of the curve. I don’t know who you are, but I know you will always be a wonderful asset to the community. Keep up the good works, big things to come for you and the people are you.
Can you just put the flip pad in an LLC? That would protect any other assets you have if someone decided to sue. I’m sorry you have run into all these liability issues. Thanks for providing the gym to the public while you could.
Wow as a kid I remember going to sky zone and dreaming of owning my own space haha bravo for you for taking the risk 🔥💪 it’s always a lesson learned never a bad choice bro keep your head high hope all turns out well
Hey Tenur, I give you a lot of credit for starting your own business. Very few people in life take this risk. I can tell by your enthusiasm and personality that you will be a great businessman in the very near future. Keep grinding and best of luck to you. 👍👍💯💯
Only in the United States can someone voluntarily take part in a potentially dangerous activity then sue the owners of the business if they get hurt, it’s actually disgusting.
Genuine question here, but could you not set it up on a donation based availability since making money off this isn't exactly the goal and have attendees sign a waiver/contract to not sue and by attending they are consenting to be solely responsible for any injuries that may occur? If I recall correctly, a park in my hometown did something along those lines and was able to avoid any legal issues because all of the attendees were there on their own regard. Somewhat similar to a skatepark or something. Usually community/city funded (in your scenario community) and is an "at your own risk" type deal.
At the end of the day, you have a massive warehouse space. You can sell all of your equipment and start a new business in that place. Hope it works out for you
I'm sorry that you've lost your business of the company. This is where it ends until now. Last time, I went to your main channel and watched the video how you built a place called The Flip Pad! It was great as it used to be. 2 years earlier, I recently enjoyed it before.
This is really such a shame. You are right real life sucks, the regulations would rather stop people having fun because the government isn't making money off it.
I just don’t understand why if someone signs a waiver saying you aren’t responsible if they get hurt, they’re still able to hold you personally liable if they get hurt…
Failing makes the wins SO much sweeter. I've got a decent bit of experience in entrepreneurship and small business management. If the warehouse was naked that's a $250k+ buildout all day long. Even in Kansas. How do you plan on recouping your investment?
Cool looking place. But sat and sun 12-4 =/ Not many hours. Would make a pretty cool laser tag place. Sucks about them restrictions, pretty dumb imo. Best luck, is a cool looking spot.
I’m not well educated in business but… Why can’t you create an LLC for the flip pad and that way if anybody sues you, they can only take the assets within the LLC (the building, trampolines, business earnings, etc.) This way they cannot sue your personal assets (house, car, personal funds, etc.) Also, is there not a waiver that people can sign before hand putting liability within the person who signs? Once again I’m not super educated but just a thought. I’d recommend getting a lawyer.
damn im from WA and have wanted to go since it was open sadly theres nothing else in kansas that i know about besides the pad to plan a trip around. Hopefully one day i can be ur friend and come lol
If the injury was from injured person being reckless, it doesn't hold up. However, if there was a way that the business could have prevented the injury/caused the injury, the waiver doesn't hold. Either way, the business will have to deal with an expensive lawsuit itself. Example: a child gets killed by the mum dangling the child over a lion cage (real case, paraphrased and likely incorrect details). The business was liable because they knew people had been doing similar for years and did not change the enclosure to prevent people from doing that. I personally have mixed opinions on that, as I would guess most.
shlda gone the non profit route. cld saved solid 20k in hassle. just need a good accountant firm is all. bummer ya closed. my brother owns a few splash/water slide places. all non profit. avoided all that amusement park bs. i remember that back in 2015ish when he opened. idk how kansas is tho with their laws. every state is different. gl in the future dude.
That sucks. It was a dream for you to build/maintain. Too bad you can't have EVERY person that walks through the door sign a contract that basically reads..."Each person is liable for any injury that may occur using these facilities"...i mean it's gonna happen, right. I gotcha...u gotta protect your ass. Sorry for that sad news....wish i coulda used it. I'm in South FL
Well shoot! My 7 year old son is super bummed because 1) he wanted to have his birthday there in November and 2) He has been wanting to meet you! But I get why you have to do it.
nobody has ever sued a tramp park and won unless the park was criminally negligent. as long as you maintain your equipment theres no reason a lawsuit would hold up
Welcome to litigious America. You provide a relatively safe space, to do a relatively dangerous activity and somehow if someone voluntarily partakes in your space and gets hurt, it's your fault. Sorry it didn't work out. This is the country we live in.
As someone who doesn’t know the law and is just trying to help can’t you just have people sign contracts saying you’re not liable if they get injured and you can still have it open to the public?
Does a waver system not work, I mean, like you could just make them or the parents sign wavers. Then your trampoline gym is not held responsible for anyone who gets hurt. I’m not a lawyer tho so I could be wrong.
I’m not from the US and certainly not a lawyer but could you not ask people to sign a waiver basically saying that anything is their fault and you’re not liable? 🤔
seems unreal ive been watching you for 8 years, will always be remembered as a part of my childhood. greatest youtuber of all time
Facts same here
so real my middle and highschool fr fr
Completely in the same boat. I used to love getting his videos back when I was a child I was also heavy into trampolining at the time
Very well worded for tanners real fans 👏🏽👏🏽
Simp
Quitting while youre ahead is no sign of weakness but a sign of intelligence. I have been around sense before you bought the first house. I agree with you're decision and I'm sure most of us understand.
The government takes all the fun out of everything.
ikr 😐, like they make murder feel wrong
@@Darren_Tarrensame with arson😢
it is...asshole
no it's people wanting to sue for every single little thing.
you say that, until you or someone you know gets injured at someones business and want to sue
Never heard of this guy before but this is a shame. Seems like a genuine guy and as per normal the society we live in has ruined something I imagine was fun.
Completely the right decision to make, you've got to protect yourself!
RIP The Flip Pad
2022-2024
well thank you tanner for letting every one come to you park me and Jaxon and tanner had so much fun you shood invite me to an event some time .
You are in a very unfortunate situation. I am so sorry for you. But, you are making the right decision. I appreciate how you have grown and matured over the years, but despite these challenges and obstacles "real life" throws your way, you Tanner, are not letting it beat you and you continue to live your life to the fullest possible. Congratulations! You are a real man.
It sucks as someone from the UK who has been a long-time fan of the channel as I was planning on flying over to the Flip Pad one day to better my skills
:(
well thank you tanner so much for all you do and thank you for the great memories from the flip pad and youtube
Sad news 😢 but thanks for keeping it honest with us! Always appreciated that, going to click through your snap stories everyday 💰
Dang it, that sux. I am sure you are an LLC. And the state with their 2 cents and people with their attorneys in their back pockets. Good choice to close to the public. Just remember your dignity and passion can never be taken away. Best of luck to you.
Thats brutal man, sorry to hear. Sucks that this world is so sue happy. Ruins things for the rest of us.
America. Not the world.
genuine question, why can’t you just make people sign a paper that says if they get hurt it’s on them and they can’t sue you? like they’re coming in at their own risk type thing?
I believe those laws of negligence and liability are dictated by the state, and could allow for someone to sue even if they sign a paper like that. Would have to look into Kansas specifically to know for sure
Those papers don't mean anything. Places use them to scare you into thinking you can't sue but in reality u can
I find it another funny😮part of the USA. People complain about the Federal Goverment being a system of overreach - the reality the states, councils and HOA interfere unreasonably far more.
@@jpmasters-ausExactly. It is bad from the ground up.
@@jpmasters-ausNo, not even close.
Aww man that sucks big time but look on the bright side. You got to gain so much experience, made friends and got to live out your dream. Even if it was for a short while. You have the memories. Maybe a company will sponsor you or go in business with you, you never know but in this day and age when everyone is suing everyone reluctantly you made the right choice. You've worked hard for your money and it would be unfair to put it all at risk. Keep jumping and look forward to the next adventure.
no i’ve been wanting to go there i live in indiana haven’t had the money to go
me too dude
Me tooo
Um. It’s actually NOT an amusement park. But it’s like a gymnastics dojo and would fall under the same category as any Karate or MMA or any other “Gym” you can possibly think of! Amusement parts have rides and roller coasters and zoos and aquariums and all kinds of bullshit!
sucks to hear that, but makes sense. Props for setting it up and keeping it going for so long!
Well that sucks 😕
I mean he’s in the middle of know where how are people supposed to go to it and it’s very small for a lot of people so it’s kinda obvious that it would fail
@@jonahtaylor9338 i get that but he opened it for all the right reasons he wasnt in it for the money like most people do
Adulting. It’s tough. But you’re ahead of the curve. I don’t know who you are, but I know you will always be a wonderful asset to the community. Keep up the good works, big things to come for you and the people are you.
Can you just put the flip pad in an LLC? That would protect any other assets you have if someone decided to sue. I’m sorry you have run into all these liability issues. Thanks for providing the gym to the public while you could.
Wow as a kid I remember going to sky zone and dreaming of owning my own space haha bravo for you for taking the risk 🔥💪 it’s always a lesson learned never a bad choice bro keep your head high hope all turns out well
Great video
Hey Tenur, I give you a lot of credit for starting your own business. Very few people in life take this risk. I can tell by your enthusiasm and personality that you will be a great businessman in the very near future. Keep grinding and best of luck to you. 👍👍💯💯
Great vid
Only in the United States can someone voluntarily take part in a potentially dangerous activity then sue the owners of the business if they get hurt, it’s actually disgusting.
Flip pad will live forever
Oh no! I loved getting to see you when I came out here. I'm sorry Tanner
Damn I haven’t watched this guy in like 6 years
Good job Tanner it was great while it was open
I really enjoyed going and meeting you and all the other people that went to the flip pad and I hope you can do something good with the flip pad.
holy shit i haven’t watched this guy in 5 years
At least it still exists and you can make videos with it,
Thats still what we are here for
Is it officially closed or is there a set date where it would be closing?
The flip pad... ... ... ALWAYS the best place to wear pink ❤❤❤❤
Genuine question here, but could you not set it up on a donation based availability since making money off this isn't exactly the goal and have attendees sign a waiver/contract to not sue and by attending they are consenting to be solely responsible for any injuries that may occur? If I recall correctly, a park in my hometown did something along those lines and was able to avoid any legal issues because all of the attendees were there on their own regard. Somewhat similar to a skatepark or something. Usually community/city funded (in your scenario community) and is an "at your own risk" type deal.
Midwest Meetup will be the send off
At the end of the day, you have a massive warehouse space. You can sell all of your equipment and start a new business in that place. Hope it works out for you
I'm sorry that you've lost your business of the company. This is where it ends until now. Last time, I went to your main channel and watched the video how you built a place called The Flip Pad! It was great as it used to be. 2 years earlier, I recently enjoyed it before.
This is really such a shame. You are right real life sucks, the regulations would rather stop people having fun because the government isn't making money off it.
The government is not the one going to sue if they suffer a catastrophic injury.
I worked in the operating room where we had several kids with broken necks, paralyzed, so you are smart to shut it down.
i guess we should all live in bubbles
Hands down best trampoline gym and the most fun I have ever had somewhere I was gonna come soon to it and now I can’t which sucks
Everything always comes down to paying money out.
Man good for you, don't learn everything in life the hard way.
Nooo. I’ve always wanted to visit but never could. That sucks man
Sad but definitely a smart move
Sorry to hear that 😔
Damn man. I’ve been there a time or two, always had a blast. Sorry that the government has to ruin all the fun.
I just don’t understand why if someone signs a waiver saying you aren’t responsible if they get hurt, they’re still able to hold you personally liable if they get hurt…
Because a lot of people, including lawyers, make a lot of money off of any time someone sues someone else
@@user-ed1yx2fq7l but how can you sue if you signed a paper saying you take full responsibility?
They are held liable if the person was hurt due to business negligence.
loved this place man keep your head up tanner!
That place looks so cool. I would love to have spent some time there.
Totally honest question, I know nothing about this stuff, but wouldn't it be a solution to make guests sign a waiver if they wanna enter the park?
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That's too bad 😔 its understandable, but I wanted to check it out. I don't blame you though at the same time.
Failing makes the wins SO much sweeter. I've got a decent bit of experience in entrepreneurship and small business management. If the warehouse was naked that's a $250k+ buildout all day long. Even in Kansas. How do you plan on recouping your investment?
NOOOO, I WANTES TO GO 😭
Cool looking place. But sat and sun 12-4 =/ Not many hours. Would make a pretty cool laser tag place. Sucks about them restrictions, pretty dumb imo. Best luck, is a cool looking spot.
Broo start posting again. Documentaries, vlogs etc - I’m still watching since 2017
Damn sorry to hear that dude
have people sign a waiver before entering
Doesn't matter, as that would only work in cases of them being negligent, not the owner.
fair enough Kim B :(
Im sorry bro!! Good choice though. Wish I could have came!
Well that sucks. Sorry. Was hoping to go one day. You opened on my 23rd birthday. Lol. 😂😂😂😂
BOOO KANSAS!!😢😢😢 let him keep it open!!
Sorry to hear that bro
I’m not well educated in business but…
Why can’t you create an LLC for the flip pad and that way if anybody sues you, they can only take the assets within the LLC (the building, trampolines, business earnings, etc.) This way they cannot sue your personal assets (house, car, personal funds, etc.)
Also, is there not a waiver that people can sign before hand putting liability within the person who signs?
Once again I’m not super educated but just a thought. I’d recommend getting a lawyer.
damn im from WA and have wanted to go since it was open sadly theres nothing else in kansas that i know about besides the pad to plan a trip around. Hopefully one day i can be ur friend and come lol
Ggs bro. Still accomplished something most may not.
Weird question. Can't you have them sign a waiver stating if they get hurt you aren't liable?
Because waivers don’t hold up in court
If the injury was from injured person being reckless, it doesn't hold up. However, if there was a way that the business could have prevented the injury/caused the injury, the waiver doesn't hold. Either way, the business will have to deal with an expensive lawsuit itself.
Example: a child gets killed by the mum dangling the child over a lion cage (real case, paraphrased and likely incorrect details). The business was liable because they knew people had been doing similar for years and did not change the enclosure to prevent people from doing that. I personally have mixed opinions on that, as I would guess most.
I was planning on coming here, is there anyway i can sign a waiver to not sue to still come?
If you ever get rid of one of the trampolines you should do a trampoline versus video it’s been 6 years since the last one 😢
Wait, there’s no way to have people sign a waiver that they release their right to sue you? Have an LLC? And then get a ton of insurance?
I believe you could put The Flip Pad into an LLC to protect your personal assets from liability.
Why couldn't/can't everyone sign/date an ironclad release of liability form, upon entry?
shlda gone the non profit route. cld saved solid 20k in hassle. just need a good accountant firm is all. bummer ya closed. my brother owns a few splash/water slide places. all non profit. avoided all that amusement park bs. i remember that back in 2015ish when he opened. idk how kansas is tho with their laws. every state is different. gl in the future dude.
I always wondered how the insurance was being covered here in the middle of Kansas.😂
that sucks, just make people sign a contract saying they literally can’t sue you
i miss you branguard
We are a lawsuit happy country. The only ones who benefit are the attorney’s
That sucks. It was a dream for you to build/maintain. Too bad you can't have EVERY person that walks through the door sign a contract that basically reads..."Each person is liable for any injury that may occur using these facilities"...i mean it's gonna happen, right. I gotcha...u gotta protect your ass. Sorry for that sad news....wish i coulda used it. I'm in South FL
This world is set up to crush the little guy at every angle. Sick sad world we live in.
Well shoot! My 7 year old son is super bummed because 1) he wanted to have his birthday there in November and 2) He has been wanting to meet you! But I get why you have to do it.
Time to make everyone you friends.
Have u thought about making people sign waivers like at haunted houses that if they get hurt your not liable?
Broooo I lived not far from the flip pad and always wanted to go but I can’t now😢
nobody has ever sued a tramp park and won unless the park was criminally negligent. as long as you maintain your equipment theres no reason a lawsuit would hold up
That's sad because I was planning on going there sometime but nope
At least you look jacked 🤷♂️
I’m confused though don’t people sign a waiver when they come? Once waiver is signed what could they do¿
Smart move . It’s not worth the liability 👌
Welcome to litigious America. You provide a relatively safe space, to do a relatively dangerous activity and somehow if someone voluntarily partakes in your space and gets hurt, it's your fault. Sorry it didn't work out. This is the country we live in.
It doesn’t have to be a theme park, why not classify it as a sports school or training center?
hope you talked to lawyers about different options to keep it up while not being able to be sued personally for injuries there.
Google says it’s only open on Saturdays and Sundays is that true?
Nooo I’ve been there three times and it was sooo much fun
As someone who doesn’t know the law and is just trying to help can’t you just have people sign contracts saying you’re not liable if they get injured and you can still have it open to the public?
I was gonna go when I went to Kansas next year 😢
Does a waver system not work, I mean, like you could just make them or the parents sign wavers. Then your trampoline gym is not held responsible for anyone who gets hurt. I’m not a lawyer tho so I could be wrong.
I’m not from the US and certainly not a lawyer but could you not ask people to sign a waiver basically saying that anything is their fault and you’re not liable? 🤔
Sad but you made the right choice