I was at Newton Abbot yesterday for 2 hours waiting for a train to take me west listening to tales of woe about failures because of severe weather then this steam engine came storming through! It brightened up an horrendous day and made me think the same thoughts as the previous messager. Thanks for braving the weather for some excellent footage.
I ❤ 🚂🚃🚄🚅🚈🚞🚝 I have a folder on ''transportation'' thank you chou chou chouuuu :)) --------------------------------------- Btw, here's something you may find interesting. :) The name of my country has nothing to do with the interesting and delicious bird ''turkey'', well let me explain. :) Name of my country has always been Turkiye, that is Turk-iye, where the -iye suffix means ''land of/belonging to''... ...just like the Latin suffix -ia in such countries as Latv-ia, Roman-ia, Eston-ia, Austr-ia, Austral-ia etc etc. Another example; decades ago Czechoslovakia Republic changed it's name to Czech Republic and a few years ago changed that to Czechia (that is Czech-ia). Anyways, most likely the Latin -ia suffix was derived from the Turkish version -iye, as Turkish is much much older. Because in old times people of different languages could only pronounce it as their languages allowed them, we got various differences in spelling like Turchia (in Italian), Turquie (in French) and Turkey (in English) all trying to resemble the pronounciation of ''Turk-ia'' thus Turkiye. Mind you this was way BEFORE the animal we currently know as 'turkey'' was found by the europeans when they explored the north americas.... ...they came across the bird and thought it was a specie of the fowl/chicken they had been buying from the country of Turkiye at the time, so they named the bird ''Turkey Fowl'' meaning ''Turkish Chicken''..... ....just like how a dog breed is known as German Shepherd (because it's from Germany), Rhodesian Ridgeback (because it's from Rhodesia), American Bulldog, British Terrier, Greek Harehound etc etc. In time you don't get to call the Greek Harehound as simply as ''Greek''; or you don't call the British Terrier as ''British''; or the German Shepherd as ''German'', but in time the Turkish Fowl started to be called just ''turkey'', and has been going on for hundreds of years. Now in 2023, this is causing confusion, especially when we have people across the world unable to point to their OWN country on the atlas, this ''confusion over the naming'' needed to be corrected. So my country decided to rectify this confusion that has been going on for so long and corrected the name in other languages to Türkiye, which it always was, we basically didn't change the name of our country, we changed the mistake made in the English language. : ) So, there's some tid bit information for you to have a great day, if you read upto this point you have a great night too, ohh just have a wonderfull life. : ) Best wishes. ;)
Some wonderfully atmospheric (in the real sense of the word) shots here. Well done! And well done to the crew aboard the express. They say that nothing really worth having is ever easy!
Thank you for this. I have so many happy memories of going through Dawlish as a young child. Riding on the steam trains in the cream and red carriages, the noise and the delicious smell of steam and soot. My sister and I were often taken down to Dawlish wall by our Grandfather to see the huge waves crashing. It was waaaayyy back in the 60s. I wish I could go back there again. x
That was some testament to the dedication of the whole crew and the quality of the maintenance of the engine. Amazing! That was the 1st time I have seen the turntable in use since seeing it beside the empty pit in the 70's, brilliant thanks guys.
Cracking damp videography, I guess you've got a sturdy tripod to cope with that sort of blow. Thanks for braving the storm. Magnificent sight, Royal Scot adhering to the rules of the sea!
So a design flaw then. Steam locos were always built as an improvement on the last, from learnt lessons. The permanent way hasn’t changed location in that time, and both the hitachi and voyagers were supposed to have been built with dawlish in mind! Polish it how you want, it doesn’t work!
@@andrewreynolds4949That line isn't electrified. The problem is that when waves wash over the top of the voyager trains they damage the braking resistors.
Royal Scot wrong way working through Dawlish, keeping it away from the raging sea as much possible, sounded and looked great. It looks like the Dawlish Sea Wall rectification works appear to be doing its job!
Thanks for going out in filthy weather to get this. Nice to see steam running without problems when so many modern trains are still not. Must have been quite hairy onboard as huge waves broke!
I've seen some footage from onboard the train. Everyone had their windows shut! Probably didn't want sea-salt champagne or whatever you drink on these railtours tasting of the sea! Thanks for watching
Meanwhile it was chaos at Exeter as all the modern trains were cancelled - I was there, it was a nightmare. Amazed this steam special wasn't cancelled!!!
@@steamtothewest-trecanrail wow! I'd intended seeing it at Exeter on the outward journey but my train from Okehampton was cancelled. By the time I got to Exeter it was too late. 2 Okehampton trains were cancelled on my return journey - I waited at St David's for nearly 3 hours observing the chaos ..
The Torbay Express was never cancelled in steam days in worst conditions than that . Footplate men got a little damp at times. Worse on 2800 goods loco
Brilliant video. Did I see the first sequence correctly? It looked like the train was on running on the wrong track, i.e. running down on the up line. If so I'm surprised that this would ever be allowed.
Nice video great camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on RUclips bye for now Philip
STEAM ON THE WRONG LINE !!! NOTE: The train on the down journey is running Wrong Road on the "Up Line" through Dawlish. The Up Line was signalled for Bi-Directional running, when Exeter Power Box was opened in the late 1980's. Primarily to help with nasty storms like this. What they forgot however, is that Salt Water upsets normal twin rail track circuits and can cause signals to go back to red. Because the system thinks there is a train present. A classic "Fail Safe" policy. HOW TO DROWN AS A TRAIN DRIVER !!! Not much fun however, when you are working an overnight freight from Exeter Riverside Yard to Plymouth Tavistock Yard, through a raging storm like the one seen. Being the "Secondman" on that job (there was no Guard) back in 1989. I'd drawn the Short Straw, as every signal from Dawlish Warren to Teignmouth had gone to red as a result. The Class 47's Radio wasn't in use, so at every signal I had to get out of the cab (being the "Secondman") & get on the signal Post phone. About two seconds after getting out of the cab before even climbing down, I was hit by a wave coming over the sea wall, & I was really lucky not to be washed off the loco. The cheerful signalman gleefully told me. "Storm ? No storm here, the heating's on full blast and the kettles just boiled. Pass that one at Red and obey all others". So at every signal to Teignmouth I was literally nearly drowned. As a result of the Salt Water problem, they changed the track circuits for axle counters, along this stretch. So no more getting slapped in the face by Flying Fish !!!
It certainly looks dramatic and it seems that steam could get through when modern traction was cancelled. It also shows that it will only be a matter of time before the sea wall is breached again and that the government should be investing in re-opening the Dartmoor line between Okehampton and Bere Alston, rather than spending eye watering amounts of money on HS2 just to reduce the journey time from London to Birmingham by 20 minutes or so.
I thought that Cornwall was always historically fiercely "independent" of mainland Britain? But money always talks and necessity is the mother of invention etc. etc. 🙂 (from a Devon lad).
A good attempt in conditions most would not have turned out. To keep the kit dry why didn't you film from the shelter above the tunnel at Dawlish. The start sequence at Dawlish was not up to your usual standards, for good viewing. Was that fighting the wind.
Why do steam specials always have a diesel engine tacked on to the back? Is it there to provide extra traction, or for emergency extraction should the steam engine fail?
Did they run it on the up line (wrong side) to keep as far as possible from the waves and spray? Yes frightening. This line has not long been rebuilt after a bigger storm washed a chunk away. Is there anywhere else in the world where you can do this? A few years ago a special train pulled by Tornado rescued stranded commuters in the South East when their electric services were stopped by snow. Steam to the rescue.
Tornado waqs a great step forward in its conception and completion - back to the future so to speak - and basics are never to be sneezed at when reliability is the essential requirement.
Gott sei Dank fährt dort nicht die Deutsche Bahn AG - da würde sich schon bei 'Beaufort 1' kein Rad mehr drehen ... 😂😂😂 Gott schütze alle britischen Eisenbahnen ! 🙏☺
Well, I think it was worth risking all my camera gear for these shots! No Risk No Fun. Thank you all for watching
@@hoolydooly5072no it’s a BR regulation incase brakes fail on kettle (steam train)
I was at Newton Abbot yesterday for 2 hours waiting for a train to take me west listening to tales of woe about failures because of severe weather then this steam engine came storming through! It brightened up an horrendous day and made me think the same thoughts as the previous messager. Thanks for braving the weather for some excellent footage.
Incredible
While the modern engines had to stop working this majestic ancient engine kept working through the storm.
Which modern engines since youtube has videos of Hitachi class 802s going along the same track effortlessly...
With a diesel on the end
I ❤ 🚂🚃🚄🚅🚈🚞🚝
I have a folder on ''transportation''
thank you chou chou chouuuu :))
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Btw, here's something you may find interesting. :)
The name of my country has nothing to do with the interesting and delicious bird ''turkey'', well let me explain. :)
Name of my country has always been Turkiye, that is Turk-iye, where the -iye suffix means ''land of/belonging to''...
...just like the Latin suffix -ia in such countries as Latv-ia, Roman-ia, Eston-ia, Austr-ia, Austral-ia etc etc. Another example; decades ago Czechoslovakia Republic changed it's name to Czech Republic and a few years ago changed that to Czechia (that is Czech-ia).
Anyways, most likely the Latin -ia suffix was derived from the Turkish version -iye,
as Turkish is much much older.
Because in old times people of different languages could only pronounce it as their languages allowed them, we got various differences in spelling like Turchia (in Italian), Turquie (in French) and Turkey (in English) all trying to resemble the pronounciation of ''Turk-ia'' thus Turkiye.
Mind you this was way BEFORE the animal we currently know as 'turkey'' was found by the europeans when they explored the north americas....
...they came across the bird and thought it was a specie of the fowl/chicken they had been buying from the country of Turkiye at the time, so they named the bird ''Turkey Fowl'' meaning ''Turkish Chicken''.....
....just like how a dog breed is known as German Shepherd (because it's from Germany), Rhodesian Ridgeback (because it's from Rhodesia), American Bulldog, British Terrier, Greek Harehound etc etc.
In time you don't get to call the Greek Harehound as simply as ''Greek''; or you don't call the British Terrier as ''British''; or the German Shepherd as ''German'', but in time the Turkish Fowl started to be called just ''turkey'', and has been going on for hundreds of years.
Now in 2023, this is causing confusion, especially when we have people across the world unable to point to their OWN country on the atlas, this ''confusion over the naming'' needed to be corrected.
So my country decided to rectify this confusion that has been going on for so long and corrected the name in other languages to Türkiye, which it always was, we basically didn't change the name of our country, we changed the mistake made in the English language. : )
So, there's some tid bit information for you to have a great day, if you read upto this point you have a great night too, ohh just have a wonderfull life. : )
Best wishes. ;)
@@nichowell9902 so the passengers can charge there cellphones.
@@nichowell9902Yeh but that was being towed 😂
Some wonderfully atmospheric (in the real sense of the word) shots here. Well done! And well done to the
crew aboard the express. They say that nothing really worth having is ever easy!
Thanks, I bet it was a much warmer in the cab.
Thank you for this. I have so many happy memories of going through Dawlish as a young child. Riding on the steam trains in the cream and red carriages, the noise and the delicious smell of steam and soot. My sister and I were often taken down to Dawlish wall by our Grandfather to see the huge waves crashing. It was waaaayyy back in the 60s. I wish I could go back there again. x
Wonderful!
What an experience to be onboard. It would have been very frightening being so close to the sea. Well done for not cancelling the trip.
Wasn't to bad as high tide was 09.00 so wasn't as bad as it has been when going past at high tide.
I was onboard and it wasnt too rough 😊
I was on the train. Since there was wind and rain pretty much all the time, I'm amazed you didn't suffer too badly from water on the lens. Good work.
Excellent!! Many thanks for turning out on such an horrendous day, the Dawlish sequence is especially dramatic.
All a bit of fun.
That was some testament to the dedication of the whole crew and the quality of the maintenance of the engine. Amazing! That was the 1st time I have seen the turntable in use since seeing it beside the empty pit in the 70's, brilliant thanks guys.
Yes it was!
Cracking damp videography, I guess you've got a sturdy tripod to cope with that sort of blow. Thanks for braving the storm. Magnificent sight, Royal Scot adhering to the rules of the sea!
Such an amazing sight. Thank you for sharing this
Modern trains: All trains cancelled.
Royal Scot: Hold my pint.
Royal Scot doesn’t have electrical equipment on the roof
So a design flaw then.
Steam locos were always built as an improvement on the last, from learnt lessons.
The permanent way hasn’t changed location in that time, and both the hitachi and voyagers were supposed to have been built with dawlish in mind!
Polish it how you want, it doesn’t work!
@@tommiles8982 Kind of hard to not have electrical equipment on the roof when you've got pantographs up there...
@@andrewreynolds4949That line isn't electrified. The problem is that when waves wash over the top of the voyager trains they damage the braking resistors.
@@stuartlomas8557 No, the trains are bimodes. That's why they have catenary. Of course it's not electrified here
Positively Turneresque: 'Rain, Steam',and Speed'
Fantastic filming, its lovely too see, i was lucky enough to be onboard in the dry 😊
Don't gloat! 😂
My late father was a driver on the LMS for 47 years. He said it had to be very severe weather to stop a steam loco, only deep snow would do it.
What a day to be out filming trains! I was doing the same!
Excellent! The wet weather can almost be guaranteed to bring some form of fun.
Great footage/filming, thank you. Greetings from New Zealand
Truly magnificent!! Great to see the new sea defences holding back the worst of the storm, too!
Storm lol.
Royal Scot wrong way working through Dawlish, keeping it away from the raging sea as much possible, sounded and looked great. It looks like the Dawlish Sea Wall rectification works appear to be doing its job!
Extremely beautiful video! An absolute joy to watch. Steam trains in dampness always impress!
Couldn't agree more! Thanks
Excellent. Thanks for braving the inclement elements to capture these scenes.
Many thanks!
Thanks for going out in filthy weather to get this. Nice to see steam running without problems when so many modern trains are still not. Must have been quite hairy onboard as huge waves broke!
I've seen some footage from onboard the train. Everyone had their windows shut! Probably didn't want sea-salt champagne or whatever you drink on these railtours tasting of the sea! Thanks for watching
The great work rebuilding the wall through Dawlish proving its worth
Magnificent.
Thanks for braving the elements. That couldn't have been nice.
No risk, no fun. I couldn't resist the opportunity.
Magnificent footage and audio. Thanks.
Magnificent
Thanks for the vid i was on the charter so good to see what it looked like from outside as we couldn't see much out the windows lol
If I had the choice of traveling on HS2 or Steam train, Steam wins hands down.
Agreed. In an age of instant communication, there should surely be a place for the enjoyment of the
travel itself.
Impressive 👏👏👏
Great footage.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great filming, well done!
Meanwhile it was chaos at Exeter as all the modern trains were cancelled - I was there, it was a nightmare. Amazed this steam special wasn't cancelled!!!
It was 27 minutes early through Exeter on the return. I know that because I missed it.
@@steamtothewest-trecanrail wow! I'd intended seeing it at Exeter on the outward journey but my train from Okehampton was cancelled. By the time I got to Exeter it was too late. 2 Okehampton trains were cancelled on my return journey - I waited at St David's for nearly 3 hours observing the chaos ..
Nice footage, and well thought out locations for filming too
Thanks a lot!
The Torbay Express was never cancelled in steam days in worst conditions than that . Footplate men got a little damp at times. Worse on 2800 goods loco
Open cab. A bit wet!
Cracking video. Thanks for braving the elements…😂😂
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing!
And now Eric Morecombe sings stormy weather 😂
Never knew the lines at Dawlish we're bi directional.
Pleased to see that the tradition of wrong line running is being maintained to keep down trains as far away as possible from the ravages of the storm
Magic !
Nice video :)
Thanks
Good Work With The Video.
I see that they used the up line instead of the down line so as to keep well away from the surfing experience
I believe this was in part due to a broken down train in Teignmouth station tho 🚉🚂
@@stevechard3860absolutely spot on, my wife was heading back from London and it was announced on the train that one had broken down.
Brilliant video. Did I see the first sequence correctly? It looked like the train was on running on the wrong track, i.e. running down on the up line. If so I'm surprised that this would ever be allowed.
It's signalled for bi directional working for such occasions as this, all trains run on that line to a a bit further away from the waves
Supposedly there was also a failed train farther along
Nice video great camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on RUclips bye for now Philip
Thanks,
Did anyone notice that the royal Scot came down the up line.
Yes, have a look at Dawlish sea wall bi directional track. It answer any queries
There was a failed IET in the platform at Teignmouth.
looks like they got the sewall defences built just in time.
STEAM ON THE WRONG LINE !!!
NOTE: The train on the down journey is running Wrong Road on the "Up Line" through Dawlish. The Up Line was signalled for Bi-Directional running, when Exeter Power Box was opened in the late 1980's. Primarily to help with nasty storms like this. What they forgot however, is that Salt Water upsets normal twin rail track circuits and can cause signals to go back to red. Because the system thinks there is a train present. A classic "Fail Safe" policy.
HOW TO DROWN AS A TRAIN DRIVER !!!
Not much fun however, when you are working an overnight freight from Exeter Riverside Yard to Plymouth Tavistock Yard, through a raging storm like the one seen. Being the "Secondman" on that job (there was no Guard) back in 1989. I'd drawn the Short Straw, as every signal from Dawlish Warren to Teignmouth had gone to red as a result. The Class 47's Radio wasn't in use, so at every signal I had to get out of the cab (being the "Secondman") & get on the signal Post phone. About two seconds after getting out of the cab before even climbing down, I was hit by a wave coming over the sea wall, & I was really lucky not to be washed off the loco. The cheerful signalman gleefully told me. "Storm ? No storm here, the heating's on full blast and the kettles just boiled. Pass that one at Red and obey all others". So at every signal to Teignmouth I was literally nearly drowned.
As a result of the Salt Water problem, they changed the track circuits for axle counters, along this stretch. So no more getting slapped in the face by Flying Fish !!!
I bet that was both hot and drafty on the footplate.
It certainly looks dramatic and it seems that steam could get through when modern traction was cancelled. It also shows that it will only be a matter of time before the sea wall is breached again and that the government should be investing in re-opening the Dartmoor line between Okehampton and Bere Alston, rather than spending eye watering amounts of money on HS2 just to reduce the journey time from London to Birmingham by 20 minutes or so.
We're Cornish until we are cut off and then we are English.
Remember that ??? We need the 10 million funding.
I say bring on Cornish Independence!
I thought that Cornwall was always historically fiercely "independent" of mainland Britain? But money
always talks and necessity is the mother of invention etc. etc. 🙂 (from a Devon lad).
Need wet weather gear to. Go along here ,as some must spray into the cab
good grief. what weather .
A good attempt in conditions most would not have turned out. To keep the kit dry why didn't you film from the shelter above the tunnel at Dawlish. The start sequence at Dawlish was not up to your usual standards, for good viewing. Was that fighting the wind.
Why do steam specials always have a diesel engine tacked on to the back? Is it there to provide extra traction, or for emergency extraction should the steam engine fail?
Yes, it’s insurance in case there’s a problem, it’s an irritating convenience
Plus to power the train heating and aircon.
The modern forien built trains fail in a rain but an old Briitush built machine steams throgh the storm.
Interesting to see the wrong-line working.
Did they run it on the up line (wrong side) to keep as far as possible from the waves and spray? Yes frightening. This line has not long been rebuilt after a bigger storm washed a chunk away. Is there anywhere else in the world where you can do this?
A few years ago a special train pulled by Tornado rescued stranded commuters in the South East when their electric services were stopped by snow. Steam to the rescue.
Yes, the line is bi-directional for that very reason.
Tornado waqs a great step forward in its conception and completion - back to the future so to speak - and
basics are never to be sneezed at when reliability is the essential requirement.
Bit of a no-contest if you ask me so why the drama party headlines for what amounts to no more than a little heavy rain and a stiff breeze.
Someone needs to go outside
Tide is dropping, not at its earlier worst. Other vids put up today show the worst at high tide.
Gott sei Dank fährt dort nicht die Deutsche Bahn AG - da würde sich schon bei 'Beaufort 1' kein Rad mehr drehen ... 😂😂😂
Gott schütze alle britischen Eisenbahnen ! 🙏☺
Putting everything through wrong line, obviously a safety issue with the storm
I think a train broke down on the other line!
Wrong line working.
Very good or should that be Very wet!!! 🤔😀🚂🚂🚂
Bring back hst
And get rid of the health and safety pansies
Hardly a battle
The title should be reversed..The storm was scared of the royal scot 🙂
Good idea 👍
Thank God for wrong line working
Lovely coverage! Always enjoy your videos ♥️
When will these be banned in the UK.
NEVER!