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just to tell, the guy that fall of the cliff, happy a tree got him and he get to the road, minor injurys, but i think he lost a toe :( no foot gear. anyway he lucky...
The guy who low sided and went down the cliff at 7:31, it is European sign for no passing over the full lane. Sign looks like black car on right side, red car on left sign. Red car means illegal position. In Europe normally they have this sign before the sharp curves.
Same. I took the MSF course but then didn’t ride again for 4 years or so until I bought my first bike. Had the dealer deliver it to my place and just took it easy on my own time on quiet streets. I would probably have been fine not doing that I wasn’t nearly as bad as the guy in the video, but I just wanted to get back into it easily, low stress.
As a rider in Portugal, you can't get a license if you ride like that and as such, you can't get a bike out of a dealership without a license... Well, you can, you just can't drive on the streets! XD
Here in the States, VA USA all you have to do is be 18 take a quick test and a parking lot skill check that's it, all the other advanced stuff like Dan teaches is optional. I see some folks need to be talked out of riding or get training first. they just sell you a brand-new 1000cc and say good luck bye.
@@Chris-kj9ou That is so crazy and foreign for me! Hahaha 🤣 Because here, our licenses are strict and our minimal requirements to get a license are not easy... And you need to have above 24 years old and do your driving exam on a bike higher than 35 kW to get an unlimited power bike license. Most driving schools use a naked 600cc or above bike, like Honda Hornet (CB600), Yamaha MT-07, for that purpose...
I'm happy that when I bought my first new bike, the dealer had a huge empty parking lot and encouraged me to take all the time I wanted practicing before leaving. Good thing too since I had a 2 hour expressway ride back home from there.
@@chillwill7401 Any dealership who sends out a couple of guys with flags to block traffic for a new rider shouldn't be letting the guy ride off their lot.
Whew, ballsy doing a 2-hour ride on your first go. 😂 Did you have riding experience before that? I was about ready to poop my pants after my first minute at 90km/h ... thought I was about to fly away
New rider leaving dealer (12:00’ish) - know it’s not possible for everyone obviously, but I always appreciated having learned how to operate manual transmissions in a car before getting my first bike. Felt like it really allowed me to focus on riding fundamentals rather than fumbling around learning basic operation.
If you are a new rider and getting a new bike and don't want to have it delivered, have an experienced friend help you get the bike home for you and then ask them to help you to a parking lot so you can practice safely and calmly with the new bike. You have to be dropped off to get the bike anyway (if you drive to the dealership, how are you getting the car home?). So instead, drop your friend off and drive your car home while your friend gets the bike home safely for you. Don't be embarrassed to ask for help. Everyone has to learn. No one was born with the innate skills to ride. We all went through this kind of learning and a lot of us were awkward like the rider in the video while learning. BE SAFE!
I never rode a motorcycle before the MSF basic course, went to a dealership for my first used bike right after the course, hoped they would deliver but that was a no go. Collected myself, picked a route, took it home, longest 25 miles of my life. There's no way i would have made it without what I learned in MSF.
(10:00) Can not be stated enough that you must ride with confidence as well as a respect for the dangers of motorcycling. When you panic, like that rider, nothing good will happen. I had my bike delivered, mostly because I bought it from Louisiana and live in New Jersey, but had I purchased locally I had my brother and a friend of mine on deck to ride it to my place as they are more experienced riders.
DanDan, after 22 years working as a street FireMedic, as well as someone that has owned and ridden motorcycles starting back with a Honda 50, I appreciate your channel more and more every day. Here in Central Florida we get a LOT of young people that want to take their crotch rockets out and feel the air. I am SO glad you push safety first in your videos, and I am looking forward to learning more techniques I can incorporate into my every day riding. Thanks again!
When I bought my bike, I had my brother, who has more experience in a motorcycle, rode my bike out the dealership for me. And now, he is training me to ride.
I had a friend of mine who has more experience on motorcycles drive my bike home. I mean it just made sense to me. What the hell was that guy thinking and why did the dealer let him leave?
Why do people always want to shift responsibility from the sentient being who made the decision. Personal responsibility for your decisions and choices is the only way to go.
Because some of us care for other people's lives and understand if you can't figure the clutch out you should be on the road. Case in point the suv almost killed him.
10:43 is why I always tell my friends who interested in bikes to go take a course - sure it costs money and has a time component but it will make you a better safer rider who will know how to ride their new bike upon buying it.
Yeah seeing him stall the bike a million times made me feel so bad because he clearly had no idea what he was doing. Definitely go to an msf course so you stall or drop the bike in a parking lot rather than in traffic.
Real story; Kid picked up his new sportbike from dealer in Elkhart IN. Family watching, everyone exited. He whiskey throttled, shot across a busy 4 lane street and hit a light pole which killed him. The dealer will deliver your new bike, no shame in that.
That’s terrible😢 that’s why I had mine delivered before I knew how to ride. yeah it’s kinda lame but it beats learning how to ride the bike on a busy road. RIP to fellow homie 🙏
Today i just bought my first bike. Its a yamaha T7. I was super nervous, but i got it home safely. It was one hell of a trip. I also had a friend trailing me most of the way MSF course training really helped me out big time. Thanks MSF.
That whole scene at 10:00, I saw a friend go through that and dump a brand new bike twice. I got a new bike and towed it home so I could practice my skills on quiet local streets. Dealerships should not let that happen. Also, looks like the bike is too big and powerful for his experience and skill. "Get what you like and learn on it" is not always the best advice.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 OK, they don't have a responsibility to NOT let it happen. We didn't watch the previous interaction. Maybe they tried to talk him down to a smaller "beginner bike" and he simply insisted. We don't know. As long as he does his paperwork, pays and shows that endorsement, he rides. The guy in the video obviously knows the basic mechanics, maybe he got home OK.
While on the topic of tire warm up, don't forget new bikes have new tires (and new tires in general). A run in period may be needed to scuff them in. So take it easy on accelerating, braking, and cornering for the first 100 miles.
@@gbtygfvyg - I put new tires on my bike and went edge to edge on them within 4 miles. I was seriously trying to take it easy but apparently failed. Did I do something wrong?
@@abikeanditsboy3449 some tyres can still have mould release agent on them , and during manufacture oils and waxes within the rubber compounds raise to the surface and form a sheen.
The big truck and the guy doing 180kph reminds me of when I was young, and very stupid and a squid. I was blasting through gears and a farmer turned in front of me with a swather. I panicked, locked up the rear, let off, nearly highsided myself, somehow got my butt back on the bike, got really hard on the brakes again and went around him (into the oncoming lane), BARELY missed an oncoming car and was one of the few moments in my life I thought, "Oh, this is how I die." We have a lot of people in the spring and summer out here doing farming and it's not uncommon to see big farm equipment on the road. The responsible thing would have been to not be speeding, so I could anticipate if he did something like that, and keep my distance. These days I really don't do group rides, and I'm a really defensive and cautious rider. Seeing that guy barely miss that brought that back and made me just go, "HRRRRRG" lol
Hey DanDan, love the vids man. These have helped me corrected some of my bad habits!! After 4 years of riding I'm now finally getting my full M license here in Ontario Canada.
In the UK you have to do the CBT. Compulsory Basic TRAINING! only after the instructor sees that you are COMPETENT at riding you can have a 125cc bike. After that you can do the bigger bike Tests. At this point you should be easily capable AND confident enough to ride the bike of your dreams home. From a UK standpoint its insane that USA folk seem to be able to buy whatever bike takes their fancy and just ride out of the showroom with absolutely zero skill, training or experience!!
That beginner rider pulling out of the dealership also looked like bad clutch lever adjustment for arm angle and maybe more bad stuff like wrong freeplay. Unfortunately, you only notice that stuff intuitively after you have some experience. Gotta practice somewhere safe until it's trained in and always check lever setup before taking off, test brakes and everything as you start to roll out so you can discover problems at low speed and go back to make adjustments if needed. Preflight check of tire wear and pressure, brake pads still thick enough, no leaks, all lights working -- it's easy to get lazy and forget, but just don't.
Not gonna lie... I find it a little irritating that the guys at the dealership didn't float the idea of delivering the bike when the guy was clearly uncomfortable even leaving the parking lot. It made a huge difference when I got my first bike, since I was able to just take my time and tool around the neighborhood for a bit.
In modern day, one can skip the dealership entirely and have the motorcycle dropped off at your door in a crate either fully or mostly assembled. I am thankful that's how I learned in a low pressure environment prior to the MSF course.
in the video at 10:00 i had a similar experience, i bought my first bike a month ago and i got it delivered to my house. i never was on a motorcycle in my life and i was excited to ride it, so i jumped on it with not knowing how the clutch work or how to change gears, i ended up shooting really fast because i hit the gas waaay too hard and the clutch suddenly grabbed. i lost controll and high sided off the motorcycle, i got nasty road rash on my hand and knees (no protection). lesson learned.
Watching from 10:00 onwards has made me so grateful about the UK bike laws, the CBT test effectively forced me to learn how to avoid this dangerous situation and along with everything else they taught me has made riding feel safe as anything
Newbie rider: I know my skills are bad, but if I have a few buddies with red flags walk out onto the road & warn the traffic, I should be okay. Seemed like a good idea at the time :)
DanDan bro you are doing GR8...!!!! Due to Your videos...I'm sure it do save someone's LIFE somewhere in any part on the EARTH. I ❤ your face Reactions after witnessing a unfortunate CRASHES. I became very CAUTIOUS, DEFENSIVE and RESPONSIBLE Rider on the Roads... Thanks to you bro. ❤ Love and 🙏 Respect From Arunachal Pradesh (INDIA).
How everyone is acting like it is perfectly normal to never ever touched a bike, then go buy one and go straight in to traffic with it?? This is insane. In Finland, it is mandatory to go through the basics course with certified instructors (and pass official handling and driving test, which is rather challenging) before you get your license to even ride a motorcycle. It is baffling to me that it isn't so everywhere. Especially in places where cars with manual transmission are rare.
That TNE TV clip gave me anxiety but more than that it made me realise how valuable it is that in the U.K we have the CBT so that before you can ever take a bike on the road you have to do the closed course basic stuff and your instructor has to be happy that you are competent enough and then your instructor follows you for a 2 hour ride on road and only if the instructor is happy do you get your CBT that allows you to ride unaccompanied on the road. I believe all of Europe has a similar set up and in the UK it's only about £150 and you get to drop their bike not yours.
Had a similar scenario to this first one recently. Wasn't speeding or following too close, still going about 60. Pickup truck with blacked out taillights stopped suddenly to turn left. Didn't realize until it was too late. Emergency braked (progressive pressure), front end locked up, wasn't gonna make it, no shoulder. Put it on that narrow strip by the white line and passed the truck with about 20mph to spare. There's no time to think when something unexpected happens, practice until it's natural. If you do then your instincts will know what to do when things go wrong.
Always wanted to learn how to ride a motorcycle and I finally bought my first bike yesterday. Since I've only ridden a motorcycle once about twenty years ago I thought it would be a good idea having my Ninja H2 delivered. After seeing that new rider I knew that I made the right decision. Starting my motorcycle safety course on Tuesday.
That beginner clip is exactly why I took the motorcycle driving course that included certification at Honda. You just show up they give you the gear and a bike, at least mine did. They teach you how to ride how to shift all that in a couple of days that way when you go to get a bike you at least know a little bit what you’re doing when driving out onto the roads.
that new rider flashed some old memories up . i was lucky My Nan had my 50cc bike at her house before I was 16 so I practices pulling off and turning in her drive before My 16th birthday so I could ride on the day :)
12:20 this is why it's so important to mentor new riders. If you have friends who are getting their first bike, offer to help them out. Take the bike home for them, get them into an open parking lot and let them get that first drop out of the way where there isn't traffic and they don't have to be so nervous.
I'm taking an MSF course I'm about a month. It just seemed like common sense to not buy a bike until after that. I also automatically decided to pick it up with full gear and take it home via side roads. I'm not taking my first bike right on the highway 😂
That was my plan pre MSF. Post MSF I decided to ask the dealers about delivery, and they happily rode it the 2 miles home for me. Even those 35 mph side roads were honestly too much for me as a brand new rider, but it only took a couple weeks of scooting around the quiet suburb behind my house before I felt comfortable taking them on. How'd your pickup go?
When I bought my first bike I rode it around the dealership’s parking lot for a few hours (they had a huge parking lot) and still ended up getting it delivered because the area was terrible. A lot of traffic and a lot of road work. Then I rode it around my neighborhood for a good while.
My first bike was an 08 hatley nightster 1200, I bought it off a guy and had him trailer it to my house. Spent 2 weeks practicing in a neighborhood, dumped it once practicing a tight turn from a stop sign. Learned how to position the bike better for turns after that.
I felt so bad for that new driver leaving the dealership. Must have been so freaking scary! Other vehicles are not going to be very forgiving of any sort of mistakes either as we saw. Def a good idea to get dropped off where you live. Thx dan
Looking at those trigerred lane splitters seems that none of them ever drove a car, its such a normal lane change in a traffic that is going slow and there is plenty of space in another lane, but when a motorbike drives 3x speed between two lanes how can he expect everyone to see him. Lane change usually takes a second, quick look at the mirror and you start changing if you see the gap. Also damn, if you can’t see the car, car can’t see you too… refering to some other videos. Thx for listening just had to get this out
When I bought my first bike, I didn't have my endorsement, or even my permit...I had my uncle ride it home for me. Now I've ridden around our block a few times, and have my Rider Course in 2 months.
The new rider i feel for him. I got my first bike and didnt know how the hell to ride and the dealership people were laughing. Anyway i rode an hour to get home and in that hour i learned very quickly what to do and not to do. But dealerships a lot of em will get you into a bike with no experience and just take the money. Folks get a bike fine see if they deliver if not have someone who knows how to ride to coem with you or use a pickup truck or have another fellow who has a bike come with so they can ride with you to help you
I’m a newer rider and only recently have been able to ride faster than 40 mph. I still have more practice to do with the fundamentals and being comfortable with all the wind when going faster.
16:40. Yes! First bike was a modified 02 vrod, practiced in my neighborhood (metro Detroit area, but slower traffic) had it delivered on a trailer by private seller/personal friend. Aced my brc2-they told me to skip brc1, taught by cherry from wolverine harley and cop bike teacher with a SH1T friction zone that was inconsistent due to air in the clutch line (didn’t know at the time). Fought the fork rake the whole time…100% recommend a 300lb- bike for endorsement tests. 😂
First try on bike I'm buying . Owner kicked her over put her into first . I got on slowly took off paddling my feet . Got her around the first corner wondering why I can't get itinto second. ( I was trying to downshift into second instead of kicking up into 2nd ) Classic example of a dyslexic brain in motion: )] Buying a 125 XL honda 1983 . Learning so much Thanks Man ..
Had my friend ride my bike home and and practiced in my neighborhood for a few days slowly working my my way to up small roads wit minimal traffic and then bigger roads and highways. Def can relate to looking like that the first time I threw a leg over
I feel like the shop sent a lamb to slaughter with the new rider. This is why some bikes end up sitting in a garage until the new rider sells them at a loss.
I know exactly where the new rider video happened, and at 12:18, when he stops in the turn lane, he is right in front of the community college where they conduct the MSF courses!
I'm so glad to live in a country where you can't just buy a bike and drive it without experience. I find it so strange! Here you need to take 2 exams before you can have it on your driver's license. You take lessons for the first exam (parking lot, exercises like the U-turn, tight turn, figure 8, slow driving). After you've passed that, you take lessons on the road, and then you need to pass an exam showing you can drive safely on the road in different situations. Also you have to take a test on paper to show you know the rules on the road, basic maintenance etc. So the concept of just having your car license and then being able to just buy a bike and drive it, is a very weird concept to me haha! Saves a lot of time and money, but I wouldn't change our system for it.
The dude leaving the dealership was intense... I don't understand buying a motorcycle having never ridden one like... ever. Take an MSF course in america, it will give you a foundation. His "Hard shifts" if you look, he's not even using the clutch, he's just shifting without clutching (or rolling off the throttle) SUPER scary.
Man I was nervous as hell watching that clip of the new rider. The dealership I bought my first bike from was happy to deliver my bike no charge. People in my neighborhood were probably wondering why the guy on the motorcycle was lingering around for a few hours acting like he was looking for something. Lol
9:27 No thats frame rate discrepancies between the flash of the LED (because they aren't lit 100% of the time, despite what our eyes show us) The camera actually shows the "flutter" thanks to different frame rates recording vs display. Thats no indicator.
This is coming from a car driver, hearing the rev-bomb "assuming windows down" just makes me wanna screw with them and spook a rider... or do a quick, short and happy "beep beep back" That sound literally reminds me of the south park episode with the biker gang
28:11 ehh that's Peterborough ontario! Went to high-school there :) the white van switched lanes because the lane they where in was a dedicated left turn lane. This lane switch should have been expected if you live in the area cause it's a common mistake.
Man that guy leaving the dealership I felt so bad for him. I want to say he had no prior experience with manual transmissions. Was why he was struggling so bad. I have drove manual transmissions in my cars for 8 years. And I drove my bike 50min home from the dealership, though I was a nervous wreck and terrified I made it home with no issues. Excluding a lady that yelled at me for going slow. 😂🤦♂️🤷♂️
27:50 that is actually a road /speed calming measure on the side - you can see that they intentionally narrow the road into a 1-lane passing place - this is common in residential areas that suffer from speeding cars. One side should always give way, so the car should have given way here in this example, but probably didn't see the biker and just went through.
Someone starts merging on me. I don't try and shoot pass I slow down and let them go, they probably didn't me. It's not a lane race. Also I do my best to stay out of the blind spot. At the end of the day, it's better to be seen, not viewed.
When I bought my first bike I rode home from Arkansas to Oklahoma on a newly bought z125 and it looked very similar to the dealership clip I rode through the Razorbacks Campus with my grandma following close behind as I did my first ever (accidental) clutch up taking off from a stop light almost looping the bike
As a rider myself, i simply can not wrap my head aroud the idea that you can buy a bike so easy, without actualy possesing a drivers-licence. Where im from(Sweden) you have to enlist in actual driving-shool and pass a number of lessons and tests and aquire your licence before you can buy one. There are also age restrictions on what engine-size you can buy at what age. When you buy your first bike, you actualy know what you are doing before venturing out in to traffic. The licence will cost anywhere between 2500-3500 dollar, depending on how many lessons you need before mastering a certain step of your shooling.
In Canada, it's under 600 for a 2 day course. I'm glad I didn't have to pay 2000 more because of a lack of trust. Especially since I knew the risks and am a safe person.
In France for the driving license of motorcycles we have two tests. One on a plateau, it is a large area like a parking lot but without obstacles. We put poles to exercise. Then there is a road race if the plateau race has been successful. I don’t understand that in the US a person could put himself in such a legal danger. He wouldn’t even qualify for the set.
If you're looking for a Chopper Motorcycle and you're new to riding, I recommend you a Honda Shadow Slasher 400 :) I don't have any experience with other chopper bikes, but I liked that one, it's very maneuverous and easy to control, *and, it's one hell of a cheap gal* but totally recommend it, Honda's choppers are gold tier, if you're looking for a cheap first bike
The dealership video is terrifying. I dont know why new riders buy new bikes and try to drive them off.. I bought mine and i could have gotten it sooner but i waited 5 days for it just because i didnt want to drive it myself. I insisted on the dealer dropping it off at my house so i could practice before i actually went into heavy traffic.
10:04 THA'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID TODAY LMAO!!! I rode my brand new bike today right out of the dealership and yes i had trouble shifting and stalled the bike at least 15 times
Depends where you live I live in the middle of downtown so having my bike delivered would’ve put me in a worse situation thankfully the shop I bought my bike from is super cool they’re letting keep the bike there and come and practice riding it until I feel comfortable taking it home I also made some biker friends who offered to come with me when I go to ride it home so I won’t be myself 🥰
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6:23 We've all gone too hot into a corner before, but what this guy did was just reckless. Something tells me he had never been on that road before. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'm just learning that in the US, you can go into a dealership, buy a motorcycle of any engine size, and ride it home "legally". In the UK you have to take a CBT (compulsory basic training) course before you're allowed to ride on public roads. And until you've taken the full motorcycle test, you are limited to 125cc. I find it scary that you let inexperienced riders roll onto the highway on a big heavy bike without the skills to control it.
27:49 the direction the rider is going has the right of way, the car coming towards the bike moved because the white car on the right blocked the approaching rider, by the time you see the car they've already started moving, the rider has to give them room now (UK)
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just to tell, the guy that fall of the cliff, happy a tree got him and he get to the road, minor injurys, but i think he lost a toe :( no foot gear. anyway he lucky...
The guy who low sided and went down the cliff at 7:31, it is European sign for no passing over the full lane. Sign looks like black car on right side, red car on left sign. Red car means illegal position. In Europe normally they have this sign before the sharp curves.
When I bought my bike, I had it delivered. Rode around the neighborhood for several weeks before I took it in traffic.
Congratulations you just won a [ ☆NINJA ☆ TRIPLE TURBO1300 ] drive that in traffic
Did you get it before taking the msf test?
Same. I took the MSF course but then didn’t ride again for 4 years or so until I bought my first bike. Had the dealer deliver it to my place and just took it easy on my own time on quiet streets.
I would probably have been fine not doing that I wasn’t nearly as bad as the guy in the video, but I just wanted to get back into it easily, low stress.
How on earth can new riders be that bad! Terrifying!
That’s the best way to do it if you’re brand new 👍. I’ve heard stories of new riders crashing right off the dealership lot.
As a driving instructor in Germany that scene with the dealership gave me the chills >_>
As a german currently getting his A license i fully support that motion.
As a rider in Portugal, you can't get a license if you ride like that and as such, you can't get a bike out of a dealership without a license...
Well, you can, you just can't drive on the streets! XD
As just a regular ol human being, yea it was scary.
Here in the States, VA USA all you have to do is be 18 take a quick test and a parking lot skill check that's it, all the other advanced stuff like Dan teaches is optional. I see some folks need to be talked out of riding or get training first. they just sell you a brand-new 1000cc and say good luck bye.
@@Chris-kj9ou That is so crazy and foreign for me! Hahaha 🤣
Because here, our licenses are strict and our minimal requirements to get a license are not easy... And you need to have above 24 years old and do your driving exam on a bike higher than 35 kW to get an unlimited power bike license.
Most driving schools use a naked 600cc or above bike, like Honda Hornet (CB600), Yamaha MT-07, for that purpose...
I'm happy that when I bought my first new bike, the dealer had a huge empty parking lot and encouraged me to take all the time I wanted practicing before leaving. Good thing too since I had a 2 hour expressway ride back home from there.
Exactly shame on the dealership that let him go into the street smh
@@chillwill7401 Any dealership who sends out a couple of guys with flags to block traffic for a new rider shouldn't be letting the guy ride off their lot.
@@chillwill7401 your country is busted if you can't ride a motorcycle while you are allowed to ride one by law.
Whew, ballsy doing a 2-hour ride on your first go. 😂 Did you have riding experience before that? I was about ready to poop my pants after my first minute at 90km/h ... thought I was about to fly away
New rider leaving dealer (12:00’ish) - know it’s not possible for everyone obviously, but I always appreciated having learned how to operate manual transmissions in a car before getting my first bike. Felt like it really allowed me to focus on riding fundamentals rather than fumbling around learning basic operation.
I started enduro at around age 10 with my dad. Was great learning clutch and everything outside of traffic
If you are a new rider and getting a new bike and don't want to have it delivered, have an experienced friend help you get the bike home for you and then ask them to help you to a parking lot so you can practice safely and calmly with the new bike. You have to be dropped off to get the bike anyway (if you drive to the dealership, how are you getting the car home?). So instead, drop your friend off and drive your car home while your friend gets the bike home safely for you.
Don't be embarrassed to ask for help. Everyone has to learn. No one was born with the innate skills to ride. We all went through this kind of learning and a lot of us were awkward like the rider in the video while learning.
BE SAFE!
I never rode a motorcycle before the MSF basic course, went to a dealership for my first used bike right after the course, hoped they would deliver but that was a no go. Collected myself, picked a route, took it home, longest 25 miles of my life. There's no way i would have made it without what I learned in MSF.
(10:00) Can not be stated enough that you must ride with confidence as well as a respect for the dangers of motorcycling. When you panic, like that rider, nothing good will happen. I had my bike delivered, mostly because I bought it from Louisiana and live in New Jersey, but had I purchased locally I had my brother and a friend of mine on deck to ride it to my place as they are more experienced riders.
DanDan, after 22 years working as a street FireMedic, as well as someone that has owned and ridden motorcycles starting back with a Honda 50, I appreciate your channel more and more every day. Here in Central Florida we get a LOT of young people that want to take their crotch rockets out and feel the air. I am SO glad you push safety first in your videos, and I am looking forward to learning more techniques I can incorporate into my every day riding. Thanks again!
That new rider clip got my heart goin.
Ikr, That dude had no business riding a motorcycle in traffic with such little experience.
When I bought my bike, I had my brother, who has more experience in a motorcycle, rode my bike out the dealership for me. And now, he is training me to ride.
Stats show most crashes happen to people who are taught by their friends/family, so make sure to take a couple safety courses too
I had a friend of mine who has more experience on motorcycles drive my bike home. I mean it just made sense to me. What the hell was that guy thinking and why did the dealer let him leave?
they just needed that sale xD
Why do people always want to shift responsibility from the sentient being who made the decision. Personal responsibility for your decisions and choices is the only way to go.
Because some of us care for other people's lives and understand if you can't figure the clutch out you should be on the road. Case in point the suv almost killed him.
10:43 is why I always tell my friends who interested in bikes to go take a course - sure it costs money and has a time component but it will make you a better safer rider who will know how to ride their new bike upon buying it.
Yeah seeing him stall the bike a million times made me feel so bad because he clearly had no idea what he was doing. Definitely go to an msf course so you stall or drop the bike in a parking lot rather than in traffic.
Almost nobody is going to do that.
Real story; Kid picked up his new sportbike from dealer in Elkhart IN. Family watching, everyone exited. He whiskey throttled, shot across a busy 4 lane street and hit a light pole which killed him. The dealer will deliver your new bike, no shame in that.
That’s terrible😢 that’s why I had mine delivered before I knew how to ride. yeah it’s kinda lame but it beats learning how to ride the bike on a busy road. RIP to fellow homie 🙏
That's metal af
Today i just bought my first bike. Its a yamaha T7. I was super nervous, but i got it home safely. It was one hell of a trip. I also had a friend trailing me most of the way
MSF course training really helped me out big time. Thanks MSF.
That whole scene at 10:00, I saw a friend go through that and dump a brand new bike twice. I got a new bike and towed it home so I could practice my skills on quiet local streets. Dealerships should not let that happen. Also, looks like the bike is too big and powerful for his experience and skill. "Get what you like and learn on it" is not always the best advice.
you got that right but most riders don't
Not the dealers responsibility to know the purchasers skills/limits. This is legally outlined in many different laws.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 OK, they don't have a responsibility to NOT let it happen. We didn't watch the previous interaction. Maybe they tried to talk him down to a smaller "beginner bike" and he simply insisted. We don't know. As long as he does his paperwork, pays and shows that endorsement, he rides. The guy in the video obviously knows the basic mechanics, maybe he got home OK.
While on the topic of tire warm up, don't forget new bikes have new tires (and new tires in general). A run in period may be needed to scuff them in. So take it easy on accelerating, braking, and cornering for the first 100 miles.
Just curious, why?
@@abikeanditsboy3449 He just explained why. The tires are new, they don't have that wear and tear that allows them to grip to the road easier.
@@gbtygfvyg - I put new tires on my bike and went edge to edge on them within 4 miles. I was seriously trying to take it easy but apparently failed. Did I do something wrong?
@@abikeanditsboy3449 some tyres can still have mould release agent on them , and during manufacture oils and waxes within the rubber compounds raise to the surface and form a sheen.
I did not know this. Thank you for this golden nugget of knowledge. Much appreciated.
The big truck and the guy doing 180kph reminds me of when I was young, and very stupid and a squid. I was blasting through gears and a farmer turned in front of me with a swather. I panicked, locked up the rear, let off, nearly highsided myself, somehow got my butt back on the bike, got really hard on the brakes again and went around him (into the oncoming lane), BARELY missed an oncoming car and was one of the few moments in my life I thought, "Oh, this is how I die." We have a lot of people in the spring and summer out here doing farming and it's not uncommon to see big farm equipment on the road. The responsible thing would have been to not be speeding, so I could anticipate if he did something like that, and keep my distance. These days I really don't do group rides, and I'm a really defensive and cautious rider. Seeing that guy barely miss that brought that back and made me just go, "HRRRRRG" lol
I still don’t get rev bombing.
Of all the controls you have at your disposal, that energy would be best invested in the brake levers and avoidance
rev limiter makes it even more pussified. real men run with no limits!
Hey DanDan, love the vids man. These have helped me corrected some of my bad habits!! After 4 years of riding I'm now finally getting my full M license here in Ontario Canada.
good luck. seems like canadian riders pay almost ten times more for bike insurance than in usa
In the UK you have to do the CBT. Compulsory Basic TRAINING! only after the instructor sees that you are COMPETENT at riding you can have a 125cc bike. After that you can do the bigger bike Tests. At this point you should be easily capable AND confident enough to ride the bike of your dreams home. From a UK standpoint its insane that USA folk seem to be able to buy whatever bike takes their fancy and just ride out of the showroom with absolutely zero skill, training or experience!!
That beginner rider pulling out of the dealership also looked like bad clutch lever adjustment for arm angle and maybe more bad stuff like wrong freeplay. Unfortunately, you only notice that stuff intuitively after you have some experience. Gotta practice somewhere safe until it's trained in and always check lever setup before taking off, test brakes and everything as you start to roll out so you can discover problems at low speed and go back to make adjustments if needed. Preflight check of tire wear and pressure, brake pads still thick enough, no leaks, all lights working -- it's easy to get lazy and forget, but just don't.
Not gonna lie... I find it a little irritating that the guys at the dealership didn't float the idea of delivering the bike when the guy was clearly uncomfortable even leaving the parking lot. It made a huge difference when I got my first bike, since I was able to just take my time and tool around the neighborhood for a bit.
They may have. We'd have to see the whole interaction to know what the dealer did or dis not do.
@@csolivais1979 Fair
In modern day, one can skip the dealership entirely and have the motorcycle dropped off at your door in a crate either fully or mostly assembled. I am thankful that's how I learned in a low pressure environment prior to the MSF course.
Hey man thanks for teaching and not criticizing.
in the video at 10:00 i had a similar experience, i bought my first bike a month ago and i got it delivered to my house. i never was on a motorcycle in my life and i was excited to ride it, so i jumped on it with not knowing how the clutch work or how to change gears, i ended up shooting really fast because i hit the gas waaay too hard and the clutch suddenly grabbed. i lost controll and high sided off the motorcycle, i got nasty road rash on my hand and knees (no protection). lesson learned.
Watching from 10:00 onwards has made me so grateful about the UK bike laws, the CBT test effectively forced me to learn how to avoid this dangerous situation and along with everything else they taught me has made riding feel safe as anything
As a new rider who got their first bike three weeks ago - oh my god, have the bike delivered. That's what I did, for exactly the reason shown above.
I took the msf course and immediately started riding around quiet neighborhoods streets doing 30-40mph for a few days, then into back roads
Newbie rider: I know my skills are bad, but if I have a few buddies with red flags walk out onto the road & warn the traffic, I should be okay. Seemed like a good idea at the time :)
Most of these accidents/close-calls involving another car would become just another day in traffic if the rider used brakes instead of rev-bomb.
DanDan bro you are doing GR8...!!!!
Due to Your videos...I'm sure it do save someone's LIFE somewhere in any part on the EARTH.
I ❤ your face Reactions after witnessing a unfortunate CRASHES.
I became very CAUTIOUS, DEFENSIVE and RESPONSIBLE Rider on the Roads... Thanks to you bro.
❤ Love and 🙏 Respect
From Arunachal Pradesh (INDIA).
How everyone is acting like it is perfectly normal to never ever touched a bike, then go buy one and go straight in to traffic with it?? This is insane. In Finland, it is mandatory to go through the basics course with certified instructors (and pass official handling and driving test, which is rather challenging) before you get your license to even ride a motorcycle. It is baffling to me that it isn't so everywhere. Especially in places where cars with manual transmission are rare.
We have a thing called freedom.
That new rider had my butt clenched !! Great learning opportunity for people thinking of getting a bike.
That TNE TV clip gave me anxiety but more than that it made me realise how valuable it is that in the U.K we have the CBT so that before you can ever take a bike on the road you have to do the closed course basic stuff and your instructor has to be happy that you are competent enough and then your instructor follows you for a 2 hour ride on road and only if the instructor is happy do you get your CBT that allows you to ride unaccompanied on the road. I believe all of Europe has a similar set up and in the UK it's only about £150 and you get to drop their bike not yours.
Had a similar scenario to this first one recently. Wasn't speeding or following too close, still going about 60. Pickup truck with blacked out taillights stopped suddenly to turn left. Didn't realize until it was too late. Emergency braked (progressive pressure), front end locked up, wasn't gonna make it, no shoulder. Put it on that narrow strip by the white line and passed the truck with about 20mph to spare. There's no time to think when something unexpected happens, practice until it's natural. If you do then your instincts will know what to do when things go wrong.
Always wanted to learn how to ride a motorcycle and I finally bought my first bike yesterday. Since I've only ridden a motorcycle once about twenty years ago I thought it would be a good idea having my Ninja H2 delivered. After seeing that new rider I knew that I made the right decision. Starting my motorcycle safety course on Tuesday.
That beginner clip is exactly why I took the motorcycle driving course that included certification at Honda. You just show up they give you the gear and a bike, at least mine did. They teach you how to ride how to shift all that in a couple of days that way when you go to get a bike you at least know a little bit what you’re doing when driving out onto the roads.
that new rider flashed some old memories up . i was lucky My Nan had my 50cc bike at her house before I was 16 so I practices pulling off and turning in her drive before My 16th birthday so I could ride on the day :)
12:20 this is why it's so important to mentor new riders. If you have friends who are getting their first bike, offer to help them out. Take the bike home for them, get them into an open parking lot and let them get that first drop out of the way where there isn't traffic and they don't have to be so nervous.
I'm taking an MSF course I'm about a month. It just seemed like common sense to not buy a bike until after that. I also automatically decided to pick it up with full gear and take it home via side roads. I'm not taking my first bike right on the highway 😂
Sounds like me a couple months ago… 45 minutes later I made it home alley and felt good.
That was my plan pre MSF. Post MSF I decided to ask the dealers about delivery, and they happily rode it the 2 miles home for me. Even those 35 mph side roads were honestly too much for me as a brand new rider, but it only took a couple weeks of scooting around the quiet suburb behind my house before I felt comfortable taking them on. How'd your pickup go?
When I bought my first bike I rode it around the dealership’s parking lot for a few hours (they had a huge parking lot) and still ended up getting it delivered because the area was terrible. A lot of traffic and a lot of road work. Then I rode it around my neighborhood for a good while.
My first bike was an 08 hatley nightster 1200, I bought it off a guy and had him trailer it to my house. Spent 2 weeks practicing in a neighborhood, dumped it once practicing a tight turn from a stop sign. Learned how to position the bike better for turns after that.
Tip: The horn is a warning device not an "I'm pissed" annunciator.
Didn’t know I was clicking on an Ad for this dudes motorcycle academy.
That sigh @12:40 lol
I felt that. the whole viewing experience was stressful AF
I felt so bad for that new driver leaving the dealership. Must have been so freaking scary! Other vehicles are not going to be very forgiving of any sort of mistakes either as we saw. Def a good idea to get dropped off where you live. Thx dan
I bought a Honda fury last month as my first bike picked it up a week after my msf . Picked it up in California and drove it 14 hours home to Oregon
Looking at those trigerred lane splitters seems that none of them ever drove a car, its such a normal lane change in a traffic that is going slow and there is plenty of space in another lane, but when a motorbike drives 3x speed between two lanes how can he expect everyone to see him. Lane change usually takes a second, quick look at the mirror and you start changing if you see the gap. Also damn, if you can’t see the car, car can’t see you too… refering to some other videos. Thx for listening just had to get this out
Whenever you see a Prius, just be in an Orange Stage ❗️❗️❗️
Might just go to red LOL
When I bought my first bike, I didn't have my endorsement, or even my permit...I had my uncle ride it home for me. Now I've ridden around our block a few times, and have my Rider Course in 2 months.
The new rider i feel for him. I got my first bike and didnt know how the hell to ride and the dealership people were laughing. Anyway i rode an hour to get home and in that hour i learned very quickly what to do and not to do. But dealerships a lot of em will get you into a bike with no experience and just take the money. Folks get a bike fine see if they deliver if not have someone who knows how to ride to coem with you or use a pickup truck or have another fellow who has a bike come with so they can ride with you to help you
I’m a newer rider and only recently have been able to ride faster than 40 mph. I still have more practice to do with the fundamentals and being comfortable with all the wind when going faster.
That new rider was clear evidence that the Compulsory Basic Training in the Uk is a very good idea !
Nah. It's proof that you are property of your government
Oooh, lots of cactii and thorny bushes. Great landing zone. Ouch.
16:40. Yes!
First bike was a modified 02 vrod, practiced in my neighborhood (metro Detroit area, but slower traffic) had it delivered on a trailer by private seller/personal friend.
Aced my brc2-they told me to skip brc1, taught by cherry from wolverine harley and cop bike teacher with a SH1T friction zone that was inconsistent due to air in the clutch line (didn’t know at the time). Fought the fork rake the whole time…100% recommend a 300lb- bike for endorsement tests. 😂
The motorcycle gods were with that first guy.
First try on bike I'm buying . Owner kicked her over put her into first . I got on slowly took off paddling my feet . Got her around the first corner wondering why I can't get itinto second. ( I was trying to downshift into second instead of kicking up into 2nd ) Classic example of a dyslexic brain in motion: )] Buying a 125 XL honda 1983 . Learning so much Thanks Man ..
That beginner leaving the dealership was by far the most stressful video you've ever shared.
How could they let him off the lot in good conscience!?
Had my friend ride my bike home and and practiced in my neighborhood for a few days slowly working my my way to up small roads wit minimal traffic and then bigger roads and highways. Def can relate to looking like that the first time I threw a leg over
I feel like the shop sent a lamb to slaughter with the new rider. This is why some bikes end up sitting in a garage until the new rider sells them at a loss.
You got that right. That was painful to watch.
I know exactly where the new rider video happened, and at 12:18, when he stops in the turn lane, he is right in front of the community college where they conduct the MSF courses!
@20:40 notice that Prius, after pulling out in front of the motorcycle, proceeds to change lanes into another car. Driver is a rolling hazard.
Probably a woman on the phone
@@yankees29 The only distracted driver incidents I or my friends and family have been involved with (6 I think total) were all men on phones.
@@John_Ridley I guess you don’t live in NY.🤣
lol i was about to say the same
They should *not* have allowed that guy to ride that bike off the lot.
😳😮😲 0:20 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 “WHOOOOA HOA”
4:48 😅😂🤣 I was gonna type that too!
7:51 😮😮😮 oooh “WHOOOOA”
I'm so glad to live in a country where you can't just buy a bike and drive it without experience. I find it so strange! Here you need to take 2 exams before you can have it on your driver's license. You take lessons for the first exam (parking lot, exercises like the U-turn, tight turn, figure 8, slow driving). After you've passed that, you take lessons on the road, and then you need to pass an exam showing you can drive safely on the road in different situations. Also you have to take a test on paper to show you know the rules on the road, basic maintenance etc. So the concept of just having your car license and then being able to just buy a bike and drive it, is a very weird concept to me haha! Saves a lot of time and money, but I wouldn't change our system for it.
The dude leaving the dealership was intense... I don't understand buying a motorcycle having never ridden one like... ever. Take an MSF course in america, it will give you a foundation. His "Hard shifts" if you look, he's not even using the clutch, he's just shifting without clutching (or rolling off the throttle) SUPER scary.
Anybody with a spare weekend that will never buy a bike should take msf.
Man I was nervous as hell watching that clip of the new rider.
The dealership I bought my first bike from was happy to deliver my bike no charge. People in my neighborhood were probably wondering why the guy on the motorcycle was lingering around for a few hours acting like he was looking for something. Lol
That new rider was terrifying. I can’t believe dealerships let people leave like that
I was considering riding my bike from the dealership, after my MSF course. Definitely leaning closer to no now.
9:27 No thats frame rate discrepancies between the flash of the LED (because they aren't lit 100% of the time, despite what our eyes show us) The camera actually shows the "flutter" thanks to different frame rates recording vs display. Thats no indicator.
The thing yall need to realize is that at night, a single headlight easily looks like a car’s headlights from much farther away.
This is coming from a car driver, hearing the rev-bomb "assuming windows down" just makes me wanna screw with them and spook a rider... or do a quick, short and happy "beep beep back"
That sound literally reminds me of the south park episode with the biker gang
28:11 ehh that's Peterborough ontario! Went to high-school there :) the white van switched lanes because the lane they where in was a dedicated left turn lane. This lane switch should have been expected if you live in the area cause it's a common mistake.
Man that guy leaving the dealership I felt so bad for him. I want to say he had no prior experience with manual transmissions. Was why he was struggling so bad. I have drove manual transmissions in my cars for 8 years. And I drove my bike 50min home from the dealership, though I was a nervous wreck and terrified I made it home with no issues. Excluding a lady that yelled at me for going slow. 😂🤦♂️🤷♂️
27:50 that is actually a road /speed calming measure on the side - you can see that they intentionally narrow the road into a 1-lane passing place - this is common in residential areas that suffer from speeding cars. One side should always give way, so the car should have given way here in this example, but probably didn't see the biker and just went through.
10:06 thats why we in Europe need to take lessons first before we can buy a bike
11:30. No pressure. You got this.
That guy on the red bike wouldn't fly off the cliff, he just fell into the bushes and escaped with an injury to his toes.
That new rider had absolutely no business being out in traffic yet
I think it's safe to get a first aid kit. Got on on mine, water and food and flash light. It's 6am and I'm going for a ride to breakfast
This is why in the UK you have to do CBT first and that only allows you ride a 125cc till you go for your full license.
That's not why. You are subjects with no rights is why you have mandatory licenses to watch TV or speak freely in public
Someone starts merging on me. I don't try and shoot pass I slow down and let them go, they probably didn't me. It's not a lane race. Also I do my best to stay out of the blind spot. At the end of the day, it's better to be seen, not viewed.
When I bought my first bike I rode home from Arkansas to Oklahoma on a newly bought z125 and it looked very similar to the dealership clip I rode through the Razorbacks Campus with my grandma following close behind as I did my first ever (accidental) clutch up taking off from a stop light almost looping the bike
As a rider myself, i simply can not wrap my head aroud the idea that you can buy a bike so easy, without actualy possesing a drivers-licence. Where im from(Sweden) you have to enlist in actual driving-shool and pass a number of lessons and tests and aquire your licence before you can buy one. There are also age restrictions on what engine-size you can buy at what age. When you buy your first bike, you actualy know what you are doing before venturing out in to traffic. The licence will cost anywhere between 2500-3500 dollar, depending on how many lessons you need before mastering a certain step of your shooling.
In Canada, it's under 600 for a 2 day course. I'm glad I didn't have to pay 2000 more because of a lack of trust. Especially since I knew the risks and am a safe person.
In France for the driving license of motorcycles we have two tests. One on a plateau, it is a large area like a parking lot but without obstacles. We put poles to exercise. Then there is a road race if the plateau race has been successful. I don’t understand that in the US a person could put himself in such a legal danger. He wouldn’t even qualify for the set.
If you're looking for a Chopper Motorcycle and you're new to riding, I recommend you a Honda Shadow Slasher 400 :)
I don't have any experience with other chopper bikes, but I liked that one, it's very maneuverous and easy to control, *and, it's one hell of a cheap gal* but totally recommend it, Honda's choppers are gold tier, if you're looking for a cheap first bike
maneuvreous, very clever, sir. well done.
@@jerryeinstandig7996 look English isn't my native language 😭
@@stoikusu5084 im not criticizing; i like the word you made, sir. it is a useful neologism.
@@jerryeinstandig7996 oh thank you! :) I couldn't think of a better word so
@@stoikusu5084 Try agile :)
The dealership video is terrifying. I dont know why new riders buy new bikes and try to drive them off.. I bought mine and i could have gotten it sooner but i waited 5 days for it just because i didnt want to drive it myself. I insisted on the dealer dropping it off at my house so i could practice before i actually went into heavy traffic.
10:04 THA'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID TODAY LMAO!!! I rode my brand new bike today right out of the dealership and yes i had trouble shifting and stalled the bike at least 15 times
I took an msf course and I never stalled the bike. Just learn how the clutch works and it will immediately work for you.
My riding schools is offering to deliver their students' motorbikes to the school site where students can practice safely.
0:36 That's why I bought a svartpilen 401. Fun bike but doesn't "accidentally" go too fast
Depends where you live I live in the middle of downtown so having my bike delivered would’ve put me in a worse situation thankfully the shop I bought my bike from is super cool they’re letting keep the bike there and come and practice riding it until I feel comfortable taking it home I also made some biker friends who offered to come with me when I go to ride it home so I won’t be myself 🥰
Horns aren't deflector shields lol...Dan yr videos are awesome.
Deflector shields stop high velocity micro particles that carry incredible amounts of energy and with a tiny amount of momentum relative to their energy, so they are easily stopped by slowing them down over short distances.
Satellites in space use a kind of metal foil that bends and absorbs the energy from micro particles that would cause serious damage to a hard object.
Deflectors are like breaks for grains of sand travelling a thousand mph.
Rev bombing needs to be trained out of riders at riding school. The horn, handlebars, and brakes work alot better to help you avoid accidents
6:23 We've all gone too hot into a corner before, but what this guy did was just reckless. Something tells me he had never been on that road before. Maybe I'm wrong.
That new rider as any new rider must take riding lessons and practice
I'm just learning that in the US, you can go into a dealership, buy a motorcycle of any engine size, and ride it home "legally".
In the UK you have to take a CBT (compulsory basic training) course before you're allowed to ride on public roads. And until you've taken the full motorcycle test, you are limited to 125cc.
I find it scary that you let inexperienced riders roll onto the highway on a big heavy bike without the skills to control it.
Wow. I thought I was terrible my first ride. I left my driveway nervous people would see me dump the bike. Dropped it like 10 times and counting. Ha
You just know after that new rider left the dealership they were wondering if he made it home
OMG that dealership should have never let him drive off the lot like that. They really should have told him we can just deliver it.
I have my CF Moto 450SS being delivered today July 5th wasn't prepared to ride it 100 miles home....lol.
27:49 the direction the rider is going has the right of way, the car coming towards the bike moved because the white car on the right blocked the approaching rider, by the time you see the car they've already started moving, the rider has to give them room now (UK)