Ramree Island: Animal House of Horrors or Urban Legend?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 дек 2023
  • It isn’t a very big or important place. Not many people live there, either historically or today. It isn’t a tourist destination or a tropical paradise: it doesn’t even appear all that different from the mainland. Under normal circumstances, no one outside of Myanmar would have ever heard of Ramree Island.
    But, just like many previously unremarkable places, war came to visit Ramree in 1945, and with it came one of the most horrifyingly gruesome stories in the history of warfare: an entire regiment of Japanese troops disappeared into a jungle swamp, mostly never to be seen again. What killed them was not the British soldiers pursuing them, but by Mother Nature, particularly one of her most dangerous predators: the saltwater crocodile.
    The idea of hundreds of soldiers being eaten alive by gigantic beasts leftover from the era of the dinosaurs, what the Guinness Book of World Records called “the deadliest animal attack in human history,” is so horrifying that it defies belief. In fact, many people DON’T believe it: they say the story is impossible, that it is a work of complete fiction.
    True or not, the story has defined the outsider’s perspective on Ramree Island ever since, all you have to do is scour the Internet to show that. As for whether or not you believe it, we’ll tell the story, and then you can decide for yourself.
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  • @geographicstravel
    @geographicstravel  5 месяцев назад +5

    Check out Karl's Socials:
    Fact Fiend: www.youtube.com/@FactFiend
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    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 месяцев назад +1

      You're the Best 😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

    • @michaeldrake798
      @michaeldrake798 5 месяцев назад

      If you guys occasionally need a staff writer on this or Biographics, let me know.
      Love the channels regardless of the situation and Karl is a good presenter.

  • @Aramis419
    @Aramis419 5 месяцев назад +20

    One of my great-uncles fought in Burma during THE WAR, and after my having heard this story (I was all of 10 years old at the time) on, of all things, THE HISTORY CHANNEL, I asked him about it.
    "People still believe that? We made it up! Wish it would've really happened though. Those Japanese were right bastards."

    • @hectorlumbagoCringe
      @hectorlumbagoCringe 2 месяца назад

      Sure dude keep simping

    • @christopherscroggins7404
      @christopherscroggins7404 2 месяца назад

      I smell bullshit 😂and its from your comment

    • @Aramis419
      @Aramis419 2 месяца назад +1

      @@christopherscroggins7404 Hey, for all I know, it could’ve been! I’m just repeating what I was told! Could’ve been just another adventure story to entertain a kid.

  • @Lisa-ol1ih
    @Lisa-ol1ih 5 месяцев назад +16

    I had actually never heard of this story before, so I'm glad I heard it right the first time!

    • @fox0yeah410
      @fox0yeah410 5 месяцев назад +2

      Need to watch Joe Roger 😂😂😂😂😂😂 forrest talked about this a bit ago

  • @user-ek8gs4ij4r
    @user-ek8gs4ij4r 5 месяцев назад +8

    I don't know whether it happened at all, but 1000 people slogging through 10 miles of chest deep, muck bottomed swamp, it's almost hard to imagine it didn't happen at least a few times.

  • @Lager1978
    @Lager1978 5 месяцев назад +10

    "Murder logs" LMAO! I shall now refer to all saltwater crocodiles as 'murder logs' from today onward.

  • @AndresSebriant
    @AndresSebriant 5 месяцев назад +3

    I mean I always sorta thought it was some killed but not 500... But I COULD see them scavenging every single corpse left behind which is equally terrifying.

  • @goosenotmaverick1156
    @goosenotmaverick1156 5 месяцев назад +16

    Im with ya Karl, the Death Roll is honeslty the scariest part for me.

    • @geographicstravel
      @geographicstravel  5 месяцев назад +3

      YEP!

    • @andymcneil7085
      @andymcneil7085 5 месяцев назад +4

      I think the death roll is engineered to rip food from the victim just to give them a snack, too keep the wolf from the door, so too speak.

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@andymcneil7085 as far as I understand, that is correct, which is what makes it so terrifying. I'd rather be dead first, then dismembered, not have my arms ripped off WHILE drowning, at least that's how I figure it

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@geographicstravelyep

    • @andymcneil7085
      @andymcneil7085 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@goosenotmaverick1156 when put that way, I can see your point.

  • @bunyipdragon9499
    @bunyipdragon9499 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hi karl, nice to see more of the real you sneaking through into your long running interim role. Just to let you know its either Salty or Saltwater Crocodiles but not saltywater crocodiles as you said at the beginning 💜

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 месяцев назад +4

    Love your content man! Please make an Agincourt video!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

  • @Pissedoffdetective
    @Pissedoffdetective 5 месяцев назад +2

    My grandfather was sent to Burma as an SRO and wasn't demobbed until 1947. Several of his mates were taken when fishing in their downtime.

  • @CC-gg4oj
    @CC-gg4oj 5 месяцев назад +4

    Keep it up Karl, don't mind some of the dino's in the comments. Australia has a lot of crocs and they're big, not may people survive an attack. They usual take fishers or idiots swimming where they should not. An idea for a Geo or Top Tenz could be just how many animal, fish, reptile, insect, bird or other life could kill you in a given country. I'd think Australia would be number 1 on the list. Cheers mate.

    • @MeesterJ
      @MeesterJ 5 месяцев назад +1

      Aussie would be fighting hard to keep Brazil off there I imagine

    • @bigballer4897
      @bigballer4897 4 месяца назад

      Aus isn’t even top 5 just think about what animals are in other countries yeah besides the water what else here is full apex? Maybe snakes everywhere has em what else hmm spiders insects like what hahah other places have bears tigers all that some with multiple in one country think about Africa they beat anywhere by miles even America even has more than us like hahah it’s a misconception if you actually think on it and the places above aus the crocs attack people a lot more often because they are always close to the water trying hydrate
      Think about the Amazon jaguars piranhas giant anacondas all that russia wolves bears cougars like bruh other places killer whales polar bears all that like think bro

  • @adrianjorgensen3750
    @adrianjorgensen3750 5 месяцев назад +1

    Saltwater crocodiles being notoriously uncooperative during interviews.

  • @russelllomando8460
    @russelllomando8460 5 месяцев назад +2

    interesting story. thanks. good one.

  • @guyplachy9688
    @guyplachy9688 5 месяцев назад +1

    There were also the reports of wounded Japanese soldiers being taken by crocodiles whilst trying to get past Australian troops through the mangroves around Buna, Gona & Sanananda during the New Guinea campaign. These are generally confirmed as there were multiple witnesses on both sides, however, they were probably in the order of a few dozen, at most, rather than hundreds.

  • @Alastair_
    @Alastair_ 5 месяцев назад

    My grandfather fought in Burma, I can only imagine the hell he went through but sadly I never got to meet him, he didn't die out there but shortly after he returned home.

  • @resileaf9501
    @resileaf9501 5 месяцев назад +2

    Haha, very empathic with your fear of crocodiles there. You don't get to be an apex predator by not being terrifying to be around.
    But man, you made me miss Steve Irwin again. How I wish he were still with us.

  • @Jatheus
    @Jatheus 5 месяцев назад +2

    I hear you, probably never happened as such... but hear me out... can we get a horror movie on this? It sounds like it could be a fun horror movie. I had not heard of this before this video, so thanks!

    • @hoppytoad79
      @hoppytoad79 5 месяцев назад

      You have an odd idea of fun. 😄 Seriously, I agree this would be a great horror movie. The psychological terror of not knowing what made the ripples off to the right, or if what you're seeing is a log or a salty, or is that a vine or a snake ahead hanging off a branch, would terrify the h3ll out of audiences.

    • @Jatheus
      @Jatheus 5 месяцев назад

      @@hoppytoad79 Well, when you put it that way, haha.... so ... to clarify... fake terror and violence, fun... real terror and violence... horrifying. :0)

  • @TM-yn4iu
    @TM-yn4iu 5 месяцев назад

    Before the end, so... the digestive timeline for crocodiles is a bit long, hence it would probably take one for each victim in short sequence. Great video.

  • @AnnaAnna-uc2ff
    @AnnaAnna-uc2ff 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks

  • @BigGahmBoss
    @BigGahmBoss 5 месяцев назад +1

    I had never heard of this story. I'm here cuz I watch this channel and all its videos

    • @geographicstravel
      @geographicstravel  5 месяцев назад +1

      And who isn't scared of the death roll?

    • @BigGahmBoss
      @BigGahmBoss 5 месяцев назад

      @@geographicstravel it's funny Karl mentioned that, because my friends and I joke all the time that we're going to gator roll each other into the Potomac. Even though I'm not 100% sure gators do the roll as well, and none of us live in Washington DC lol

  • @guidorotunda1321
    @guidorotunda1321 5 месяцев назад +4

    Another apex predator is the great white shark

    • @geographicstravel
      @geographicstravel  5 месяцев назад +3

      Orcas are quickly climbing the ranks as they wage their war against luxury yachts.

    • @archstanton6102
      @archstanton6102 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@geographicstravelCheering for the Orcas on this battle.

  • @hoppytoad79
    @hoppytoad79 5 месяцев назад

    I can believe *some* soldiers were taken out by the salties. Absolutely, no doubts in my mind at all. How many became CrocChow is known only to the crocs and their victims. Venomous snakes, insects, and arachnids also claimed victims, and viruses and bacteria also did the Allies a favor. ;) It wouldn't surprise me if some soldiers, on high alert for crocs while trekking through the swamps, went into panic mode when they heard a Mystery Noise or mistook a log for a croc, did Something Stoopid, and ended up drowning when their boots and/or their feet/legs became stuck in the mud (especially when the light was low), causing them to REALLY flip out and hurry their imminent demise.

  • @ColinPetersen-sh3ng
    @ColinPetersen-sh3ng 4 месяца назад

    Here because I never heard of it, good job tracking down the interviews with the native people

  • @Zcp105
    @Zcp105 3 месяца назад

    I don't believe that crocodiles killed japanese troops by the hundreds at ramree, but in that part of the world, I can't imagine how an entire regiment, including the sick and wounded, struggling through mangrove swamps wouldn't have attracted the attention of at least a few crocs. At which point, a few attacks seem pretty likely. Maybe after enough rifle fire, the crocs would've been scared away.

  • @nssmithtx1
    @nssmithtx1 5 месяцев назад +1

    Idk if anyone's told you lately, Karl, but you're doing a great job. I want to be like you when I grow up.

  • @djdrack4681
    @djdrack4681 5 месяцев назад +1

    Next Karl talks about where mokele-mbembe is...and the likelihood of there being long necks in the congo swamps.

  • @MadJustin7
    @MadJustin7 5 месяцев назад

    "Interim host" Just make it official. You're doing a great job.

  • @BruceBoyde
    @BruceBoyde 5 месяцев назад

    I had never heard of this and am perfectly happy to hear that murder logs probably didn't kill 500-1000 people.

  • @harryshriver6223
    @harryshriver6223 Месяц назад +1

    I am just wondering if anyone can still see the Japanese survivors of Ramree Island for any truth to the matter?

  • @bnorris8625
    @bnorris8625 5 месяцев назад

    20:45 I clicked on it and was expecting it but I am not disappointed at being shown a different and correct view

  • @GhostTrueCapitalist
    @GhostTrueCapitalist 7 дней назад

    True or not... just imagine being a British soldier, you and your men are on guard at night and hear screams from a distance and then silence...
    I ain't sleeping that night

  • @Bubbaist
    @Bubbaist 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’m pretty sure it’s not called Ramree by the Burmese, as the Burmese language doesn’t have an “R.” That’s why they call Rangoon “Yangon” when speaking Burmese.

    • @yankeecrazy9
      @yankeecrazy9 5 месяцев назад

      It’s called Yanbye Island in Burmese

  • @fabricdragon
    @fabricdragon 4 месяца назад

    never heard of it before, actually

  • @zaco-km3su
    @zaco-km3su 5 месяцев назад

    So there was an attack but it was only 10 to 15 soldiers. Things got exaggerated later on, especially with dead bodies being consumed by crocodiles.

  • @jordanhelton2409
    @jordanhelton2409 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why has there been an interim host?

    • @billabong9215
      @billabong9215 5 месяцев назад +1

      Other guy had a huge falling out with the channel owner seemingly, probably to do with contracts.... This guy stepped in to help out but the channel is dying a slow, painful death.

    • @jordanhelton2409
      @jordanhelton2409 5 месяцев назад

      @@billabong9215 I thought simon was the channel owner

    • @billabong9215
      @billabong9215 5 месяцев назад

      @jordanhelton2409 As far as I'm aware a woman owns the channel. I could be totally wrong but from listening to Simon and Carl. There was a conflict of interest and now Simon is bound by a non-disclosure clause. I like Carl, just wish he'd slow down and the videos where 5 minutes longer.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 месяцев назад +2

    Suggestion karl! Orka!

  • @julieours4135
    @julieours4135 5 месяцев назад +7

    Murder log 😂

  • @georgegillett6059
    @georgegillett6059 3 месяца назад

    Donkey documentary next? History of random islands like Kerguelen?

  • @LazloVimes
    @LazloVimes 5 месяцев назад +1

    Please stop saying interim, you’re ours and here for good :)

  • @deniseatkins9407
    @deniseatkins9407 5 месяцев назад

    Murder logs lol yeah half a dozen I will expect but 500 nope great video

  • @deborahdanhauer8525
    @deborahdanhauer8525 5 месяцев назад +2

    I had never heard of this. I can’t think of much worse than being eaten alive by a crocodile. Gives me shivers.😳🐝

  • @ravensdotter6843
    @ravensdotter6843 5 месяцев назад

    But, you'd have needed a baseline bio survey of the croc population, and if the surveyors (had there been any) got eaten, well, catch 22.

  • @ElicBehexan
    @ElicBehexan 5 месяцев назад

    I've heard about the ship, but I've never seen Jaws and I don't plan on ever seeing it... oh, and I was around when it first came out but I hate horror movies, so....

  • @Cypriniuscarpio
    @Cypriniuscarpio 5 месяцев назад

    Wher can i get those Shirt!?

  • @ThroughTheThornvine
    @ThroughTheThornvine 5 месяцев назад

    love the dino shirt

  • @oscar3114mike
    @oscar3114mike 4 месяца назад

    I thought it was a mugger crocodile, not a saltie

  • @michaelstagar4254
    @michaelstagar4254 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bring back Simon.

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 5 месяцев назад +1

    Murder log?
    *remembers the Tvtropes page of some guy writing sth in their diary while getting eaten by a crocodile*

  • @fabricdragon
    @fabricdragon 4 месяца назад

    Oh, while i dont think the crocs took hundreds (maybe a dozen or so) they DO NOT need to be the full grown massive bulls to do it. there are confirmed reports of crocodilians that are 8 to ten feet long drowning adult humans.

  • @prusak26
    @prusak26 5 месяцев назад

    The scariest thing is that a guy can be paid presumably livingish wage for reading from a script on a laptop. Because he can read.

  • @kddicks5115
    @kddicks5115 5 месяцев назад +1

    Never heard of this…thought I’d throw that out first😉 so many things to thank the internet for. Unfortunately, it has also encouraged and fed the rabbit hole. I mean there are people making FLAT EARTH content…anything for a buck!!🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂
    And ditto on the crocs, brother!! 😬😬😬

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville 5 месяцев назад

    I'm all for a new face in the Simon Whistler Multiverse. Its canon now.

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's really just Simon from a parallel universe. I'm waiting for Crocosimon.

  • @blackhawk2302
    @blackhawk2302 4 месяца назад

    It did happen. However, disease, exhaustion and starvation killed more troops than the crocs.

  • @andymcneil7085
    @andymcneil7085 5 месяцев назад +2

    I see you have the same producer as Simon from other channels.

    • @Tsuki17
      @Tsuki17 5 месяцев назад +1

      Simon used to host this channel as well.

  • @aceundead4750
    @aceundead4750 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your aerodynamic predecessor covered this on one of his million channels, he and his team came to the same conclusion as y'all.

  • @mrdgenerate
    @mrdgenerate 4 месяца назад +1

    Damn... Karl sold out and went for some of that Whistler money...

  • @l.w.febock6861
    @l.w.febock6861 5 месяцев назад

    Jim Beam!

  • @murrayscott9546
    @murrayscott9546 5 месяцев назад

    Were any Japanese survivors interviewed ? Sounds like a place for some investigational eco-tourism. A week, maybe ? Some day-hikes ? Let's go !

  • @terrafirma5327
    @terrafirma5327 5 месяцев назад

    Karl: "I hope I am pronouncing this correctly"
    Simon: "This word is stupid. English is stupid. The British empire is the worst. I pronounce how I want."

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 4 месяца назад

      'The British Empire is the worst'
      or most successful....??

  • @trli7117
    @trli7117 5 месяцев назад +2

    ⛏️ FOR KARL! 🪨💎

  • @andrewellisonlee
    @andrewellisonlee 4 месяца назад

    You lost me at Carrel Smallwood.

  • @Edgar-dp5qu
    @Edgar-dp5qu 5 месяцев назад

    Bring back simon

  • @davebarrowcliffe1289
    @davebarrowcliffe1289 5 месяцев назад

    Rangoon and Burma will do just fine... 😃 👍

  • @RaxxosFusedTeeth
    @RaxxosFusedTeeth 4 месяца назад

    Fact fiend!!!

  • @invictus2578
    @invictus2578 5 месяцев назад +1

    Crocodiles are smart the migrate to different places for food if they know there’s a food source they’ll go there and the fact that they can swim in the ocean it’s not that hard to think that this actually happened especially since the war was years long

  • @christerprestberg3973
    @christerprestberg3973 5 месяцев назад

    OwO, juwst some huwngwy sawtwatew cowcodiwes ^^

  • @murrayscott9546
    @murrayscott9546 5 месяцев назад

    It's not urban, for starters.

  • @jasonkurt1958
    @jasonkurt1958 5 месяцев назад +3

    bwahahaha death roll!!

  • @billabong9215
    @billabong9215 5 месяцев назад

    Also... 8 out 15 of the last videos have been American based. Change it up people

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 5 месяцев назад

    2:25 - Chapter 1 - The island
    3:40 - Chapter 2 - The war
    5:45 - Chapter 3 - An ancient threat
    8:40 - Chapter 4 - Birth of a legend
    14:35 - Chapter 5 - Getting an answer
    16:40 - Chapter 6 - Ramree today
    20:10 - Chapter 7 - What makes a legend
    21:45 - Conclusion
    PS: Mmmh, this sounds like a good idea for *Decoding the Unknown*

  • @hectorlumbagoCringe
    @hectorlumbagoCringe 2 месяца назад

    Lots of simps in this comment section

  • @robertcowie1355
    @robertcowie1355 5 месяцев назад

    Where is Simon

  • @heidinolen873
    @heidinolen873 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'm sorry, but it's NOT THE SAME without Simon. Seriously, your fine but he was better.

    • @Crismans843
      @Crismans843 5 месяцев назад +4

      I disagree. I can’t watch “Simon” videos. He oozes pretentiousness.

    • @Tsuki17
      @Tsuki17 5 месяцев назад +1

      Where did Simon go?

    • @Cordelia0704p
      @Cordelia0704p 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Tsuki17I was wondering the same

    • @heidinolen873
      @heidinolen873 5 месяцев назад +2

      If I'd found this guy organically, he'd be awesome. But I thought it was Simon. Don't know what happened.

    • @jboss119
      @jboss119 5 месяцев назад +6

      Who cares? im a fan of the content not the host. This guy is fine and does a good job

  • @Oldwhiteguy
    @Oldwhiteguy 5 месяцев назад

    This bs is the first time I’ve ever heard that number. Who says it was 500? Click bait grifter.

  • @Oldwhiteguy
    @Oldwhiteguy 5 месяцев назад

    “ The script “ that speaks volumes. What a waste of twenty minutes, he’s said nothing.

    • @resileaf9501
      @resileaf9501 5 месяцев назад

      What, you think videos on a given subject should be done unscripted?

  • @landotter
    @landotter 5 месяцев назад +1

    horrific.😮🪖🐊

  • @guyplachy9688
    @guyplachy9688 5 месяцев назад

    There were also the reports of wounded Japanese soldiers being taken by crocodiles whilst trying to get past Australian troops through the mangroves around Buna, Gona & Sanananda during the New Guinea campaign. These are generally confirmed as there were multiple witnesses on both sides, however, they were probably in the order of a few dozen, at most, rather than hundreds.