Pursue 1. follow or chase (someone or something). Itachi was following/chasing Naruto, so if you go by semantics, Itachi fits this definition better. Plus the play on words with "In Pursuit of Itachi". Plus the next chapter Itachi finds Naruto. Besides, Kisame is a bijuu-factory as well made specifically to hard counter them, but you don't give him the same benefit of the doubt. And if we are going by who has the best arsenal to capture bijuu, then the award goes to Itachi hands down. CT can be broken, Totsuka's sealing can't. And it doesn't require a shit ton of chakra and favourable circumstances like CT does to activate. Yes, it's ironic that the person who can capture bijuu the easiest, did not capture any bijuu.
He literally showed Kisame capturing Roshi and Son Goku and the BEST arsenal against biju is definitely Obito. He was capable of placing a perfect Jinchuuriki in a Genjutsu for a decade without anyone, including Kisame and Itachi, knowing, plus he has kamui which no one can escape without his permission
It’s funny as fuck Naruto part 1 and shippuden ended years ago so all the Naruto fans just make up scenarios about the show so we can keep talking about it lmao(boruto is ultra mid)
Y’all are sleeping on Sasori. Chiyo is a one of the few Edo Tenseis that KCM Naruto’s clone couldn’t seal so it’s not like Sasori was defeated by an average Shinobi, also one scratch from him will give him the win
Awesome video, could you expand on bee vs pain? Maybe have them fight in Jiraya place, Naruto’s and then when team taka tried to jump bee ? Thanks I’ve been enjoying these with swagkage now unofficially retired
Cool idea for sure and my next video is about Bee but yeah I mean I think whether Pain does the best or not doesn’t matter as I think his interaction is the most interesting so it’s def a future video idea. I do have Pain vs Each village and I talk about it there a bit but yeah, appreciate the love
I wanna point out that Pain one shot Fukasaku who was relative to Sage Mode Naruto and goes on to state that this version of Naruto had mastered Sage Mode, but was working on improving his technique, not his strength.
Itachi solos, no trolling. Let me explain. Bee stands virtually no chance against Itachi in base form, Itachi's speed, and reflexes scale to KCM1 Naruto, not even mentioning Sharingan precognition. Bee immediately needs to level up into the v2 chakra cloak in order to even be relative with Itachi. - Large scale Amaterasu would overcome v2 Bee, it is shown canonically tailed beast chakra can be shed away, which would effectively render Amaterasu, moot. However, we've seen the scale in which Itachi can use this ability, he lit a forest on fire, a large square area.. - Bee decides to transform into Gyuki, Itachi activates v4 Susano'o and seals him immediately with Totsuka blade, even if Bee could get a bijuu beam or TBB off, the Yata mirror essentially nullifies it. - itachi has multiple win-cons 1) Amaterasu. 2) Totsuka blade. 3) Superior defense, relative speed, and reflexes. 4) Superior intelligence/relative battle IQ. 5) Genjutsu can disrupt Bee temporarily, just like what happened in canon with Sasuke. Itachi takes that advantage and kills him.
He is relative to sasuke in terms of ranking them as Shinobi, arguably higher than sasuke. Obviously they arent the same physically. Im terms of combat hes a genius, he saw a sharingan 1 time in action and came of with counters to it with little information on it
@@Virhtue negative cuhz on hood he's definitely not if you want to discuss in depth get at me on the cord homie the intricacies of his abilities and techniques far out way how he's been ostracized by you and your cohorts
Lots of things wrong with this video, possibly the worst one I've seen in terms of power scaling Kisame took those shots because the chakra he absorbs from Samehada will not only heal him but actually make him stronger. He states this as well. Kisame got stronger after getting hit by Lariat. Saying 'Samehada is doing the work' is kind of a dumb statement considering that it's his weapon... He knows it is able to absorb chakra, heal him and make him stronger so he purposefully tanks attacks. Him tanking attacks is what makes bee lose chakra and him get stronger so its a brilliant strategy. As for the Bee holding back due to the presence of his friends, Kisame also held back. He wasn't allowed to kill bee, so he's not going for killing blows while Bee is.(for example V2 lariat) Kisame was outclassing him in swordsmanship and overall countering every attack he threw. Kisame is known as the top jinchuriki hunter of the Akatsuki for a reason and he beat a Roshi who was strong enough to make Jiriaya and Minato flee alongside Han. I know you like to glaze A and Bee but we've literally seen the fight and bee had to get saved by A even when Samehada betrayed Kisame. Otherwise Bee would be dead.
@tsukuyomiinfini9962 how? Samehada can definitely absorb each of those separately. Its not attacking them and they're literally made of chakra. Maybe you should reread what I put bcuz you're probably misreading and thinking I said the WHOLE Susano'o
Kakuzu would get fed up with Sasori's constant talk about art. And Sasori wouldn't appreciate Kakuzu's lack of appreciation. I'm guessing Kakuzu would got for the kill but get poisoned. If his hearts aren't all instantly killed from the poison then I see him learning his lesson. After a few hearts anyways
@@rais6036 Kakuzu has no known answer to a poison gas, assuming he breathes air. But tbf Kakuzu probably scales higher on almost evry form of combat. Would be close but Kakuzu definitely wins if he has no need to breathe.
Immortal duo - Bee aint no blue pussy cat I’ll say that, neither of them can keep up with Bee in CqC, lightning style slices through Kakuzu like butter. And the thing is Bee can just nuke all the masks with a TBB once he realizes the duo are cockroaches. Artist duo - the first duo to be able to actually do something, carried by Sasori. Bee has the speed to match and parry all of Sasori’s weapons and also to evade his poison smoke clouds, but iron sand + bombs can very much damage Bee and poison him. The problem is Bee’s speed + power combo and his ability to use TBB. If anyone doubts the iron sand being able to hurt Bee to SOME DEGREE, 4th Raikage Ay chopped Gyuki’s horn off and Gaara’s inferior sand could tank a heavy attack from V2 Ay (and keep in mind that we’re talking about the minimum required damage which is a scratch). Cutting chakra threads isn’t that big of a deal, even Kankuro in part 1 could immediately reattach his threads. Sasori scales above Gaara during the early war arc, but none of that really scales to a fully charged TBB anyway, 6/10 times the duo get nuked, as Bee can actually afford to get caught in his own blast but they can’t as both have garbo to meh level durability. Traitor Duo - AMATERASU, also Bee did use all 8 tails in V2 against Kisame. Super Water Shark Bomb MAY be able to absorb a TBB, but it’s debatable. Divine Duo - Unfortunately the six paths of pain jump Bee, he gets put in a full nelson choke and all his chakra absorbed. The six paths of pain have been consistently underrated for …reasons, with shared vision they can weave Sage Naruto’s taijutsu at CqC, and Sage Naruto has better close range dexterity than KCM1 Naruto. Plus TBB can be countered by the Preta path, Bee can’t kill the animal path Cerberus, and the Deva + Preta path can unironically shield all the other paths with Konan as air support. Obito - somehow this 12 year old girl obsessed man pretending to be a clown washes Bee in a corny off, Kamui GG Bonus round, the REAL immortal duo please stand up, Sasori & Orochimaru. I think they fare a little better than the artist duo as Orochimaru is more slippery and durable than Deidara. Still get nuked.
Why is Pain so overrated? 🤔 The 6 paths of Pain gets murderblitzed by everyone, who is KCM1 Naruto level in speed. So Bee blitzes before a neuron goes off in Nagato's brain. Sage Mode has better reaction speed, than KCM1, but KCM1 is a blitz tier faster. Also don't confuse PA Sage Naruto and WA Sage Naruto. PA Sage Naruto gets murderblitzed by KCM1 Naruto, while WA Sage Naruto would be able to react to it (still would get outspeed and beaten up eventually). Pain gets bodied, it's not even close. The fact that Pain is relative to PA base Naruto and 6 tails Naruto bullied him is enough information for us to know that Bee in base murderblitzes and one shots all 6 of them immediately, and if Bee goes V1 or V2 it's an even worse blitz that it already is. Peace! ✌️
@@Stolas9 This is a very silly thing to say, early WA Sage Naruto (who is not any stronger than his 5KS self, and is only marginally superior to a TOTALLY UNQUANTIFIABLE degree to his PA self) was stated by Naruto himself to have better dexterity and reaction speed to KCM1, Naruto’s opinion about his own powers>yours. The six paths of pain especially the Deva path when at full power have no consistent speed anti feats to even remotely suggest that base Killer B would “blitz them before they can fire a neuron”. And you can’t even be a blitz tier above someone if THEYRE CONFIRMED FASTER IN REACTIONS THAN YOU. The only thing Bee would be able to do is blitz ONE PATH at most, and that’s only if the others are just not paying attention to him like they did when the Asura path got blitzed by Sage Naruto. Like, seriously? Did you read the manga upside down? Do you think that Suigetsu and Jugo would blitz Pain before he can fire a neuron? what about Taka Sasuke, an inferior to PA Sage Naruto in speed who is able to react to almost all of Bees attacks only having trouble with the 8 sword style due to his OWN WORDS of it having too much irregular movement. Genuinely goofy comment. Actually, to make this EVEN clearer, you said that Sage Naruto is relative to full power Pain. A fatigued Deva path on his own stomped Sage Naruto and crucified him, it was no contest. And this won’t be a contest either.
This is actually so real. Except, I think War Arc Bee fairs pretty well against Pain, and Orochimaru alone should scale above Bee. Tendo Pain scales to either KCM 1 Naruto or KCM 1.5. Definitely not KCM2, especially after his mental-amp when he’s protecting the entire Shinobi alliance against the 10-Tails Cataclysm, and being relevant in the fight against Edo Madara and Rinnegan Obito. The crazy thing is, we never see Tendo Pain at full power. But we know after Nagato uses the chaotic Shinra Tensei… Tendo scales somewhat to Sage Naruto in Taijutsu. It’s safe to say that the chaotic Shinra Tensei took a HUGE amount of chakra, but not so much as to where he’s too exhausted. He’s still fighting against Naruto and his summons. So he’s probably used 30-50% of his chakra using Shinra Tensei. Give Tendo 100% of his power + the other Paths of Pain, I still don’t see him scaling anywhere to the full-half of the Ninetails Naruto has. Kind of obvious too… considering how the 8-Tailed form was able to break out of Planetary Devastation, KCM 1 Naruto is a portion of that chakra + his own… so again, it all rally’s back up to KCM 1 or KCM 1.5 being relative to Tendo + the other lesser-paths. - He’s able to HOLD a Juubi Bomb, literally hugging it, in order to stop it from hitting the Shinobi Forces. - Fights along side KCM2 Naruto, whom I already established was stronger than Pain… not saying Bee scales to KCM2 Naruto, but he’s at least shown feats that’ll make him low-end relative(Scales above KCM1 but doesn’t scale to KCM2). 100% of The Half Ninetails > War Arc Bee ~ KCM 1, KCM 1.5 ~ 6 Paths of Pain Full Power > Tendo Pain at Full Power As for Orochimaru scaling above Bee(Pre-War Arc)… Let’s start off by saying that Orochimaru has all 5 Changes in Chakra Nature, he’s only shown 3 though, and one of those is wind… So, that’ll cancel out Bee’s lightning style, or just completely overpower it. Now for the actual scaling. Bee(Pre War-Arc) >~ Taka Sasuke I say Taka Sasuke is low end relative, because he was being pressured by Base Bee with his 8-Swords, but he’s able to dodge some of Bee’s swords, block attacks as he was being pressuring, react to surprise attacks, etc… Hebi Sasuke > Taka Sasuke, which means Bee should scale somewhere to or somewhat above Hebi Sasuke + taking into account that he has Orochiamru absorbed. So lets give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt and say Hebi Sasuke >~ Base Bee >~ Taka Sasuke Then Hebi Sasuke should scale to the V1-Cloakc Bee that blitzed Taka Sasuke with a lariat… BARE MINIMUM. Orochimaru with NO arms, is stated to scale above Hebi Sasuke, by Sasuke himself. That would mean 4-Tails Naruto fight Orochimaru. Orochimaru > Hebi Sasuke(Orochimaru Absorbed) >~ V1 Bee > Taka Sasuke Then that leads us to the question, what version of Bee does Orochimaru scale to? Well, Orochimaru scales a little bit below Hiruzen in CqC(Minus the Edo-Summons), Hiruzen was the superior of all the 5-Kage at the time, which means Ay Included, and I’m sure no one would disagree with Orochimaru scaling above the 4-Kage from the other lands individually anyways. Ay is relative to FP Bee(Pre-War Arc)… And Orochimaru > Ay ~ Bee
@Virhtue bro I need your thought...Question regarding Blue B/Fukai: How old was he? Its stated the blue b died with 22. If killer B became jinchuriki with 5/6 years old, as he became Jinchuriki of the 8t right after Blue B died, that makes him 16-17 years older than Killer B...and about 6-7 years older than A (4th Raikage)... ...so Blue B would be about 52-53 in Part 2??? Its also stated Furui (Motoi's father) died with 32, 30 years prior to the war. That was due to the rampage of Gyuki when Blue B was his Jinchuriki. This makes sense timewise as Killer B would have been 5 or 6 at that time.
Full Gyuuki would get fodderized by Super Water Shark Bomb. Water shark bomb scaled to Hidoudora size, which is big enough to grab Madara's susano and was able to flip Turtle Island. That size of an ability which is specially designed to absorb chakra would shred Gyuuki even if he does a 8 tail spin. Making direct contact would absolutely drain his chakra and shred him. Gyuuki also took major damage from a 5 tails charge, so it's not like he's that durable. Not to mention getting fodderized by amaterasu.
Finally someone who's knows what their talking about when it comes to pain. PAIN is the strongest in the akatsuki including obito (raw power) Kamui is just broken l also think full power pain beats all versions of itachi. The only reason itachi hit him with the blade is bc nagato couldn't move. Pain is too fast for that . He's not getting hit by it especially with his eye sight
Pain isn't on the level of Obito, and Pain is over sick Itachi. Prime or Edo Itachi? That's a far closer battle. High diff for either of them to come out on top.
Pain is stated to be the strongest akatsuki member (interms of raw power. I didn't say pain could beat obito. Raw power, pain is way above the akatsuki & obito.(orange mask & below). Pain full power stomps itachi & (pain doesn't stomp edo) beats edo with chibaku tensei. Itachi is gonna be to distracted by the other pains & animals. People will say what they want & believe in how they think the fight will go down. It's just a waste of time talking about hypothetical fights.
I love you guys you both great but I don't love the way you pronounce tsukuyomi, talking about heeey, it's tsukuyomaaay, like ya bruce from family guy 😂 you work together so much that I forgot who was who so I forgot who the one saying that is.
@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030Bee lost the 3rd fight. Dude literally killed sasuke twice before Jugo and Karin brought him back to life. They also still didn’t capture nor incapacitate Bee. Had he truly taken them seriously, it wouldn’t have been close.
When it comes to Pain I think he'd be better off against Bee with fewer Paths of Pain activated, because when his chakra is divided into 6 their durability becomes dog water considering that kid Konohamaru destroyed one of them. If Pain doesn't come in with his god complex and carefully thinks as his opponent is a Perfect Jinchuriki he should only bring in the essential paths, Deva and Preta, maybe the Animal one for constant aerial vision.
I feel like bee beats pain tbh.. if its a battle of whos got more power bee is stronger amd pain doesnt have a jutsu like amaterasu that can take care of it.. 6 tails naruto worked the deva path.. bee should he able to handle the deva path.. and if this is vs the whole cloud village?? Ayy gonna run a muck on the paths probably diva also
I still don't think kakazu and Kakashi were relative. Kakazu completely shitted on Kakashi to the point Kakashi NEVER hit kakazu and this wasn't even kakazu at his strongest from. I do disagree Kakashi would have beaten kakazu with kamui, there's no feats proven this. I do think killed bee stumps kakazu and hidan.
Not at all, when you watch the fight, the Akatsuki were handily stomping the Leaf ninja such that they HAD to separate them so they could survive. It wasn't just for Shikamaru's narrative to kill Hidan, the Akatsuki were handily stomping InoShikaCho AND Kakashi, if it weren't for Naruto, Kakashi would've died trying to protect those 3
Agreed, a few other things Kakashi could only use kamui 2-3 times at that time. using it twice vs deidara had him nearly spent but still able to walk. So if he can use kamui 3 times, assuming he went with the original chidori ambush he used, that's 2/6 of his chidoris spent in just that encounter. I just don't see when kakashi would have had an opportunity to kamui either of them after his initial reveal. Also the anime added taijutsu segments that make them seem a bit more even Edit: also kakashi may have said that just so Naruto wouldn't worry so much, he did a similar thing when he lied to Sakura about Sasuke coming back
At the end of the fight, when kakuzu grabs kakashi, ino, choji with threads and is about to blast them with his fused wind and fire masks is when kakashi was going to use kamui if Naruto and Yamato didn’t show up. But then Obito can bring kakuzu back and kakashi would be hospitalized
@@spit-fire kakashi didn't have enough chakra at that point. He gives you a play by play of his chakra levels in that fight. after using 4 chidoris (one on kakuzu, one attempted on hidan and 2 to block kakuzu lightning) and the shadow clone to distract hidan, he simply didn't have the chakra (1/3 total) to use kamui. Edit: I'm only saying that at that point, he couldn't have done it. Im not arguing whether it would be effective or not to use kamui earlier
I’d like to add that jiraiya beats pain with prep time he went into the battle not knowing who or what they were and what they could do with prep time jiraiya beats all 6 okay I forgot about deva I don’t know if he has anything to even rival deva path
I mean I think just Itachi (not sick) would’ve been enough, based off how Tsukuyomi was shown to work I’m inclined to believe that Bee wouldn’t be able to break out. Even if he could, considering how Itachi was doing against Naruto as an Edo I don’t think Bee wouldn’t win Furthermore I thing just Nagato would win without a doubt, like yeah Bee’s strong but Edo Nagato almost killed Naruto and Bee at the same time
Sasori vs bee is interesting I do think bee wins even if you scale sasori to ppl like beginning war arc Gaara before he gets the gold dust where he can react and block Ay (I don't remember if it was v1 or v2) and you have choy reacting to kcm1 Naruto (can't remember if it was on the manga tho it might have been filler). Sasori is just weird to scale giving the fact he was holding back against Sakura and choy and we don't objectively know when he started holding back. We just know he was holding back.
Yeah I am aware I just didn’t want to talk about him and Deidara all that much bc I just made an in depth video on them and I didn’t wanna seem like I’m copy and pasting content
no itachi ain't winning his illness will kick in because he was already at death door a short fight with sasuke that he was winning only killed him faster and pain gets washed sage mode naruto is far weaker then killer bee. naruto broke free from the rod's with just six tails uncontrolled but bee is a perfect host. bee speed blitz hard
sage mode naruto was also far weaker than pain, pain had already destroyed all of konoha and then soloed every single ninja in the village which left him very fatigued and then he still beat sage naruto who only won because the 6 tails v2 cloak bailed him when he was pinned down with chakra rods
@Virhtue lol I'll subscribe because you responded. And also I made these comments while things were still being said. So things were clarified Later in the video. But you still said that i tails can break Tsyukuyomi. Zetsu implied it can be broken with stronger dojutsu.
If you think that then please reread that fight. Samehada is a blitz level above Kisame, Bee bullied Kisame and was holding back and then just got fatigued in the bubble
Kisame was also holding back and not tryna kill bee.Scaling samehada like it’s not part of his arsenal is crazy .Bee got washed ,kisame literally counters him .Bee got saved from Raikage ,1v1 bee is losing 100 times out of 10 .
To be fair shikamaru has no anti-feats when it comes to speed mf is underrated when it comes to speed lol he perception blitz hidan. Something else that's underrated is Kakashi's lightning blade
Ok, to my admission, I havent watched this to its entirety and after Halloween I will, promise. Before that I just need to say Kisame did not "fail" to defeat Bee. He was specifically tasked by Obito to infaltrate the cloud to gain intel on the war. Otherwise, Kisame alone would've defeated Bee and if Kisame can beat him by himself, then any Akatsuki duo would absolutely be able to do so as well. Obviously, Bee beats certain members individually but 2 or more? No! No, no, no and did I mention no and also NO! The Akatsuki disrespect needs to die. Kakuzu & Hidan vs Bee is the best you're gonna get and I can make a case for them winning.
@@HC-gm4fo nah bruh, that racoon was useless; fodder! Kisame would've beaten Bee with or without them. I'm not even insulting Bee, Kisame is 4th strongest Akatsuki member with his only competition being Sasori who killed the 3rd Kazekage. For all we know, Kinkaku of the cloud may have been killed by Kakuzu given the latters assessment on the formers transformation.
Pain vs bee is interesting as well. Personally i always thought sage mode Naruto was above pain and the only reason pain was able to pin down sm Naruto was bc he killed that old man frog and throw the dead body at Naruto and then pain ended up slamming and pinned sm Naruto. Outside of that SM Naruto was fucking pain up. 6 tails Naruto was overpowering pain. The hidden leaf is fodder... besides Kakashi, Tsunade, and choji dad who do the leaf really have? Guy wasn't even there.
Pain is able to react to a faster version of Naruto in 6 tails v2 Naruto so it’s clear pain was always superior he simply was holding back due to not wanting to accidentally kill Naruto
@@IamVybez 6 tails Naruto was shitting on pain the whole time what are you talking about also where tf does 6 tails Naruto even scale to? Base on what it's stronger than sage mode Naruto? The mf is featless stop assuming stuff.
@@jaioncebollero1168 Bee was going for killing blows (v2 lariat) while Kisame couldn't because he had to capture bee not kill him. Kisame didn't use his best jutsu that he used against Guy
Thunder “A lot of people don’t understand” God
LMAO
I don't understand this joke
@@ogata100nosuke That's ok, a lot of people don't understand
OMG.
TG is every where.
Great guy 👍
Seriously is a goat
8:35 ladies and gentlemen, we got him
Man, bee roasting diedera and sassori would be great. Diedera would be so cheesed 😂might blow himself up
Lowkey, just gets hella annoyed and uses C0 💀💀
@@Virhtue sasori solos
@@boilingman972 idk why people love riding Sasori so much, he is weaker than deidara, he has better hacks
@@boilingman972 Good luck getting his puppets to scratch Bee in base. If he feels threatened, he can pull out the V1 cloak or, god forbid, V2.
@@bukola2371 Sasori > Deidara.
honestly this was a very good listen, awesome collab 🔥
Just went on my lunch break. Perfect timing. I got my entertainment for the hour🙏🏾
Sounds great Brodie, glad I could help
Hour break is crazy
BIG MOVES 🔥🔥🔥
Yall finally put respect on Sage Mode Jiraiya. The whole anime debate community looked dumb but yall have restored hope
Bro…all I’m gonna say is… I’ve got some stuff coming…
@@Virhtue hey,what do u meant here?😭
@@Virhtue great points for why killer bee body bags hidan and kakazu.😂
The two canon fights he has is not how Pain fights normally, but the filler one against Utakata is?
If he is going for a kill, and isn’t cornered
Pursue
1. follow or chase (someone or something).
Itachi was following/chasing Naruto, so if you go by semantics, Itachi fits this definition better. Plus the play on words with "In Pursuit of Itachi". Plus the next chapter Itachi finds Naruto.
Besides, Kisame is a bijuu-factory as well made specifically to hard counter them, but you don't give him the same benefit of the doubt.
And if we are going by who has the best arsenal to capture bijuu, then the award goes to Itachi hands down. CT can be broken, Totsuka's sealing can't. And it doesn't require a shit ton of chakra and favourable circumstances like CT does to activate.
Yes, it's ironic that the person who can capture bijuu the easiest, did not capture any bijuu.
I’m sure you’ve heard but I’ll talk about this in my Itachi vs pain video
Kisame did capture biju that’s stated
He literally showed Kisame capturing Roshi and Son Goku and the BEST arsenal against biju is definitely Obito. He was capable of placing a perfect Jinchuuriki in a Genjutsu for a decade without anyone, including Kisame and Itachi, knowing, plus he has kamui which no one can escape without his permission
It’s funny as fuck Naruto part 1 and shippuden ended years ago so all the Naruto fans just make up scenarios about the show so we can keep talking about it lmao(boruto is ultra mid)
Sure?
Boruto is not mid...
Is TRASH
Y’all are sleeping on Sasori. Chiyo is a one of the few Edo Tenseis that KCM Naruto’s clone couldn’t seal so it’s not like Sasori was defeated by an average Shinobi, also one scratch from him will give him the win
Sasori is way too slow.
Naruto didn't deal anyone in general fym??? He doesn't have sealing jutsu until he connects with Shukaku
Awesome video, could you expand on bee vs pain? Maybe have them fight in Jiraya place, Naruto’s and then when team taka tried to jump bee ? Thanks I’ve been enjoying these with swagkage now unofficially retired
Cool idea for sure and my next video is about Bee but yeah I mean I think whether Pain does the best or not doesn’t matter as I think his interaction is the most interesting so it’s def a future video idea. I do have Pain vs Each village and I talk about it there a bit but yeah, appreciate the love
@@Virhtue thanks for stepping up in the void swagkage left with TG
Yes a video on my fav character Killer bee !!!!
We love this
16:25 next vid should be who can survive the Double Lariat 😂
I wanna point out that Pain one shot Fukasaku who was relative to Sage Mode Naruto and goes on to state that this version of Naruto had mastered Sage Mode, but was working on improving his technique, not his strength.
Yeah I have noticed a lot of Jiraiya, Naruto Sage Mode stuff is very misconstrued
what kind of filler did u watch,pain fighting fugaku ?
@@xxxtimeghostxxx Meant Fukasaku
bruh fukasaku is not relative to sage mode naruto just because they can spare in that dimension@@CH1C4N0444
@@Virhtue killerb defeated kisame
Itachi solos, no trolling. Let me explain.
Bee stands virtually no chance against Itachi in base form, Itachi's speed, and reflexes scale to KCM1 Naruto, not even mentioning Sharingan precognition. Bee immediately needs to level up into the v2 chakra cloak in order to even be relative with Itachi.
- Large scale Amaterasu would overcome v2 Bee, it is shown canonically tailed beast chakra can be shed away, which would effectively render Amaterasu, moot. However, we've seen the scale in which Itachi can use this ability, he lit a forest on fire, a large square area..
- Bee decides to transform into Gyuki, Itachi activates v4 Susano'o and seals him immediately with Totsuka blade, even if Bee could get a bijuu beam or TBB off, the Yata mirror essentially nullifies it.
- itachi has multiple win-cons
1) Amaterasu.
2) Totsuka blade.
3) Superior defense, relative speed, and reflexes.
4) Superior intelligence/relative battle IQ.
5) Genjutsu can disrupt Bee temporarily, just like what happened in canon with Sasuke. Itachi takes that advantage and kills him.
Saw the first two words and I’m not disagreeing, W take
naruto also said that if he and bee get hit with tsukiyomi then they are finished
Great take,Tsukuyomi is also a win con and I would say Itachi definitely has higher battle IQ
To the people who lost to bee this is the last thing they hear
“It’s please may I capture you sir please”
Good video you deserve more subs
Thank you
@Virhtue Are you a big fan of Tobirama by any chance? I Love Tobirama so much he's my pookie
Nah I lowkey hate him
Thank you for going over the fact deidara ain’t relative to sasuke in their fight
Yeah I would of gone in depth but I go really hard in my Sasori vs Deidara video and I didn’t want to seem like I’m copy and pasting vids type shit
He is relative to sasuke in terms of ranking them as Shinobi, arguably higher than sasuke. Obviously they arent the same physically. Im terms of combat hes a genius, he saw a sharingan 1 time in action and came of with counters to it with little information on it
We should collab and I'll explain to you why Sasori is deadly then we can run a quicc fade IRL 😁
Sasori is lackluster in all realms of combat to say the least
@@Virhtue negative cuhz on hood he's definitely not if you want to discuss in depth get at me on the cord homie the intricacies of his abilities and techniques far out way how he's been ostracized by you and your cohorts
Deidara vs Sasuke was essentially just trying to spam the same move against a higher rank player in online and pray it works
Lots of things wrong with this video, possibly the worst one I've seen in terms of power scaling
Kisame took those shots because the chakra he absorbs from Samehada will not only heal him but actually make him stronger. He states this as well. Kisame got stronger after getting hit by Lariat. Saying 'Samehada is doing the work' is kind of a dumb statement considering that it's his weapon... He knows it is able to absorb chakra, heal him and make him stronger so he purposefully tanks attacks. Him tanking attacks is what makes bee lose chakra and him get stronger so its a brilliant strategy.
As for the Bee holding back due to the presence of his friends, Kisame also held back. He wasn't allowed to kill bee, so he's not going for killing blows while Bee is.(for example V2 lariat)
Kisame was outclassing him in swordsmanship and overall countering every attack he threw. Kisame is known as the top jinchuriki hunter of the Akatsuki for a reason and he beat a Roshi who was strong enough to make Jiriaya and Minato flee alongside Han.
I know you like to glaze A and Bee but we've literally seen the fight and bee had to get saved by A even when Samehada betrayed Kisame. Otherwise Bee would be dead.
To be clear, Yagura isn't a perfect Jinchuriki, he simply has perfect control over his beast. Fire vid.
Damn bro this is like the shortest introduction you've done so far keep it up!
Isn’t this intro long af, been a while since this vid came out
I see hidan drawing his circle if he even gets a cut... then 8 tails just slapping hidan out of the circle 🤣
Samehada can absorb the Susano'o, totsuka blade and yata mirror separately, but not together. There isn't that large a gap between Kisame and Itachi
huh, nah you're biased
@tsukuyomiinfini9962 how? Samehada can definitely absorb each of those separately. Its not attacking them and they're literally made of chakra. Maybe you should reread what I put bcuz you're probably misreading and thinking I said the WHOLE Susano'o
I'd love to have seen the pairing of Kakuzu & Sasori. They'd be a ruthless duo.
Kakuzu would get fed up with Sasori's constant talk about art. And Sasori wouldn't appreciate Kakuzu's lack of appreciation. I'm guessing Kakuzu would got for the kill but get poisoned. If his hearts aren't all instantly killed from the poison then I see him learning his lesson. After a few hearts anyways
@@hennessya96kakuzu would body Sasori
@@rais6036 Kakuzu has no known answer to a poison gas, assuming he breathes air. But tbf Kakuzu probably scales higher on almost evry form of combat. Would be close but Kakuzu definitely wins if he has no need to breathe.
Itachi never put bee under Tsukuyomi. It was regular base sharingan genjutsu smh
The argument was that he could do it💀
He is such a underrated RUclipsr
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@@Virhtue it was kisame who fought
Immortal duo - Bee aint no blue pussy cat I’ll say that, neither of them can keep up with Bee in CqC, lightning style slices through Kakuzu like butter. And the thing is Bee can just nuke all the masks with a TBB once he realizes the duo are cockroaches.
Artist duo - the first duo to be able to actually do something, carried by Sasori. Bee has the speed to match and parry all of Sasori’s weapons and also to evade his poison smoke clouds, but iron sand + bombs can very much damage Bee and poison him. The problem is Bee’s speed + power combo and his ability to use TBB. If anyone doubts the iron sand being able to hurt Bee to SOME DEGREE, 4th Raikage Ay chopped Gyuki’s horn off and Gaara’s inferior sand could tank a heavy attack from V2 Ay (and keep in mind that we’re talking about the minimum required damage which is a scratch). Cutting chakra threads isn’t that big of a deal, even Kankuro in part 1 could immediately reattach his threads. Sasori scales above Gaara during the early war arc, but none of that really scales to a fully charged TBB anyway, 6/10 times the duo get nuked, as Bee can actually afford to get caught in his own blast but they can’t as both have garbo to meh level durability.
Traitor Duo - AMATERASU, also Bee did use all 8 tails in V2 against Kisame. Super Water Shark Bomb MAY be able to absorb a TBB, but it’s debatable.
Divine Duo - Unfortunately the six paths of pain jump Bee, he gets put in a full nelson choke and all his chakra absorbed. The six paths of pain have been consistently underrated for …reasons, with shared vision they can weave Sage Naruto’s taijutsu at CqC, and Sage Naruto has better close range dexterity than KCM1 Naruto. Plus TBB can be countered by the Preta path, Bee can’t kill the animal path Cerberus, and the Deva + Preta path can unironically shield all the other paths with Konan as air support.
Obito - somehow this 12 year old girl obsessed man pretending to be a clown washes Bee in a corny off, Kamui GG
Bonus round, the REAL immortal duo please stand up, Sasori & Orochimaru. I think they fare a little better than the artist duo as Orochimaru is more slippery and durable than Deidara. Still get nuked.
Why is Pain so overrated? 🤔 The 6 paths of Pain gets murderblitzed by everyone, who is KCM1 Naruto level in speed. So Bee blitzes before a neuron goes off in Nagato's brain. Sage Mode has better reaction speed, than KCM1, but KCM1 is a blitz tier faster. Also don't confuse PA Sage Naruto and WA Sage Naruto. PA Sage Naruto gets murderblitzed by KCM1 Naruto, while WA Sage Naruto would be able to react to it (still would get outspeed and beaten up eventually).
Pain gets bodied, it's not even close. The fact that Pain is relative to PA base Naruto and 6 tails Naruto bullied him is enough information for us to know that Bee in base murderblitzes and one shots all 6 of them immediately, and if Bee goes V1 or V2 it's an even worse blitz that it already is.
Peace! ✌️
@@Stolas9 This is a very silly thing to say, early WA Sage Naruto (who is not any stronger than his 5KS self, and is only marginally superior to a TOTALLY UNQUANTIFIABLE degree to his PA self) was stated by Naruto himself to have better dexterity and reaction speed to KCM1, Naruto’s opinion about his own powers>yours. The six paths of pain especially the Deva path when at full power have no consistent speed anti feats to even remotely suggest that base Killer B would “blitz them before they can fire a neuron”. And you can’t even be a blitz tier above someone if THEYRE CONFIRMED FASTER IN REACTIONS THAN YOU. The only thing Bee would be able to do is blitz ONE PATH at most, and that’s only if the others are just not paying attention to him like they did when the Asura path got blitzed by Sage Naruto.
Like, seriously? Did you read the manga upside down? Do you think that Suigetsu and Jugo would blitz Pain before he can fire a neuron? what about Taka Sasuke, an inferior to PA Sage Naruto in speed who is able to react to almost all of Bees attacks only having trouble with the 8 sword style due to his OWN WORDS of it having too much irregular movement. Genuinely goofy comment.
Actually, to make this EVEN clearer, you said that Sage Naruto is relative to full power Pain. A fatigued Deva path on his own stomped Sage Naruto and crucified him, it was no contest. And this won’t be a contest either.
Lol of course pain can capture or kill bee with mid to low difficulty especially if bee don't have Intel
This is actually so real. Except, I think War Arc Bee fairs pretty well against Pain, and Orochimaru alone should scale above Bee.
Tendo Pain scales to either KCM 1 Naruto or KCM 1.5. Definitely not KCM2, especially after his mental-amp when he’s protecting the entire Shinobi alliance against the 10-Tails Cataclysm, and being relevant in the fight against Edo Madara and Rinnegan Obito.
The crazy thing is, we never see Tendo Pain at full power. But we know after Nagato uses the chaotic Shinra Tensei… Tendo scales somewhat to Sage Naruto in Taijutsu.
It’s safe to say that the chaotic Shinra Tensei took a HUGE amount of chakra, but not so much as to where he’s too exhausted. He’s still fighting against Naruto and his summons. So he’s probably used 30-50% of his chakra using Shinra Tensei. Give Tendo 100% of his power + the other Paths of Pain, I still don’t see him scaling anywhere to the full-half of the Ninetails Naruto has. Kind of obvious too… considering how the 8-Tailed form was able to break out of Planetary Devastation, KCM 1 Naruto is a portion of that chakra + his own… so again, it all rally’s back up to KCM 1 or KCM 1.5 being relative to Tendo + the other lesser-paths.
- He’s able to HOLD a Juubi Bomb, literally hugging it, in order to stop it from hitting the Shinobi Forces.
- Fights along side KCM2 Naruto, whom I already established was stronger than Pain… not saying Bee scales to KCM2 Naruto, but he’s at least shown feats that’ll make him low-end relative(Scales above KCM1 but doesn’t scale to KCM2).
100% of The Half Ninetails > War Arc Bee ~ KCM 1, KCM 1.5 ~ 6 Paths of Pain Full Power > Tendo Pain at Full Power
As for Orochimaru scaling above Bee(Pre-War Arc)…
Let’s start off by saying that Orochimaru has all 5 Changes in Chakra Nature, he’s only shown 3 though, and one of those is wind… So, that’ll cancel out Bee’s lightning style, or just completely overpower it.
Now for the actual scaling.
Bee(Pre War-Arc) >~ Taka Sasuke
I say Taka Sasuke is low end relative, because he was being pressured by Base Bee with his 8-Swords, but he’s able to dodge some of Bee’s swords, block attacks as he was being pressuring, react to surprise attacks, etc…
Hebi Sasuke > Taka Sasuke, which means Bee should scale somewhere to or somewhat above Hebi Sasuke + taking into account that he has Orochiamru absorbed.
So lets give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt and say
Hebi Sasuke >~ Base Bee >~ Taka Sasuke
Then Hebi Sasuke should scale to the V1-Cloakc Bee that blitzed Taka Sasuke with a lariat… BARE MINIMUM.
Orochimaru with NO arms, is stated to scale above Hebi Sasuke, by Sasuke himself.
That would mean 4-Tails Naruto fight Orochimaru.
Orochimaru > Hebi Sasuke(Orochimaru Absorbed) >~ V1 Bee > Taka Sasuke
Then that leads us to the question, what version of Bee does Orochimaru scale to? Well, Orochimaru scales a little bit below Hiruzen in CqC(Minus the Edo-Summons), Hiruzen was the superior of all the 5-Kage at the time, which means Ay Included, and I’m sure no one would disagree with Orochimaru scaling above the 4-Kage from the other lands individually anyways.
Ay is relative to FP Bee(Pre-War Arc)… And Orochimaru > Ay ~ Bee
@Virhtue bro I need your thought...Question regarding Blue B/Fukai:
How old was he?
Its stated the blue b died with 22.
If killer B became jinchuriki with 5/6 years old, as he became Jinchuriki of the 8t right after Blue B died, that makes him 16-17 years older
than Killer B...and about 6-7 years older than A
(4th Raikage)...
...so Blue B would be about 52-53 in Part 2???
Its also stated Furui (Motoi's father) died
with 32, 30 years prior to the war. That was due to the rampage of Gyuki when Blue B was his Jinchuriki. This makes
sense timewise as Killer B would have been 5 or 6 at
that time.
Full Gyuuki would get fodderized by Super Water Shark Bomb. Water shark bomb scaled to Hidoudora size, which is big enough to grab Madara's susano and was able to flip Turtle Island.
That size of an ability which is specially designed to absorb chakra would shred Gyuuki even if he does a 8 tail spin. Making direct contact would absolutely drain his chakra and shred him.
Gyuuki also took major damage from a 5 tails charge, so it's not like he's that durable. Not to mention getting fodderized by amaterasu.
Finally someone who's knows what their talking about when it comes to pain. PAIN is the strongest in the akatsuki including obito (raw power) Kamui is just broken l also think full power pain beats all versions of itachi. The only reason itachi hit him with the blade is bc nagato couldn't move. Pain is too fast for that . He's not getting hit by it especially with his eye sight
Hmm interesting
Pain not touching obito
Pain isn't on the level of Obito, and Pain is over sick Itachi. Prime or Edo Itachi? That's a far closer battle. High diff for either of them to come out on top.
Pain is stated to be the strongest akatsuki member (interms of raw power. I didn't say pain could beat obito. Raw power, pain is way above the akatsuki & obito.(orange mask & below). Pain full power stomps itachi & (pain doesn't stomp edo) beats edo with chibaku tensei. Itachi is gonna be to distracted by the other pains & animals. People will say what they want & believe in how they think the fight will go down. It's just a waste of time talking about hypothetical fights.
Love your vids man 🫱🏾🫲🏿
Hidan isn't really immortal, but is he even invulnerable? Like if he got blasted with particle style on a full stomach, would he survive? If so, how?
He goes to Jashin church.
He would regenerate eventually. He had his organs destroyed, stabbed a hole in his heart and head cut off and they healed back.
Bee is goated he was always one of my favs
Well I’ll say this about jinchouricki their powers get retconned all the goddamn time
Why not blitz hidan, pick his ass up and carry him outside the circle
I love you guys you both great but I don't love the way you pronounce tsukuyomi, talking about heeey, it's tsukuyomaaay, like ya bruce from family guy 😂 you work together so much that I forgot who was who so I forgot who the one saying that is.
So do the Akatsuki defeat KCM/Kyuubi avatar Naruto?
Some do beat KCM1 yes, however if you are referring to the KCM2 Avatar no. Bee does not scale there at this time as he is stated below the raikage
Y’all forgot to mention killer bee Judy finished training before he fought taka
Taka werent allowed to kill Bee and Bee still lost the fight due to amaterasu
@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030Bee lost the 3rd fight. Dude literally killed sasuke twice before Jugo and Karin brought him back to life. They also still didn’t capture nor incapacitate Bee. Had he truly taken them seriously, it wouldn’t have been close.
Samehada is part of Kisame's arsenal.
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When it comes to Pain I think he'd be better off against Bee with fewer Paths of Pain activated, because when his chakra is divided into 6 their durability becomes dog water considering that kid Konohamaru destroyed one of them. If Pain doesn't come in with his god complex and carefully thinks as his opponent is a Perfect Jinchuriki he should only bring in the essential paths, Deva and Preta, maybe the Animal one for constant aerial vision.
That durability Konohamaru is so misconstrued
I feel like bee beats pain tbh.. if its a battle of whos got more power bee is stronger amd pain doesnt have a jutsu like amaterasu that can take care of it.. 6 tails naruto worked the deva path.. bee should he able to handle the deva path.. and if this is vs the whole cloud village?? Ayy gonna run a muck on the paths probably diva also
How about killer bee vs alive ems madara(no 9tails)
Ems Madara one shots
6 tails is kcm level?? No
I said the same thing
Kakashi was not relative to kakazu lol he didn’t land a single hit on him besides the ambush chidori
Kisame bodied bee...
This guy -he failed.
If the raikage didn't show up. Bee was a goner
I still don't think kakazu and Kakashi were relative. Kakazu completely shitted on Kakashi to the point Kakashi NEVER hit kakazu and this wasn't even kakazu at his strongest from. I do disagree Kakashi would have beaten kakazu with kamui, there's no feats proven this. I do think killed bee stumps kakazu and hidan.
Not at all, when you watch the fight, the Akatsuki were handily stomping the Leaf ninja such that they HAD to separate them so they could survive. It wasn't just for Shikamaru's narrative to kill Hidan, the Akatsuki were handily stomping InoShikaCho AND Kakashi, if it weren't for Naruto, Kakashi would've died trying to protect those 3
@@jaredgreathouse3672 true
Agreed, a few other things
Kakashi could only use kamui 2-3 times at that time. using it twice vs deidara had him nearly spent but still able to walk.
So if he can use kamui 3 times, assuming he went with the original chidori ambush he used, that's 2/6 of his chidoris spent in just that encounter.
I just don't see when kakashi would have had an opportunity to kamui either of them after his initial reveal.
Also the anime added taijutsu segments that make them seem a bit more even
Edit: also kakashi may have said that just so Naruto wouldn't worry so much, he did a similar thing when he lied to Sakura about Sasuke coming back
At the end of the fight, when kakuzu grabs kakashi, ino, choji with threads and is about to blast them with his fused wind and fire masks is when kakashi was going to use kamui if Naruto and Yamato didn’t show up. But then Obito can bring kakuzu back and kakashi would be hospitalized
@@spit-fire kakashi didn't have enough chakra at that point. He gives you a play by play of his chakra levels in that fight.
after using 4 chidoris (one on kakuzu, one attempted on hidan and 2 to block kakuzu lightning) and the shadow clone to distract hidan, he simply didn't have the chakra (1/3 total) to use kamui.
Edit: I'm only saying that at that point, he couldn't have done it. Im not arguing whether it would be effective or not to use kamui earlier
I’d like to add that jiraiya beats pain with prep time he went into the battle not knowing who or what they were and what they could do with prep time jiraiya beats all 6 okay I forgot about deva I don’t know if he has anything to even rival deva path
Itachi and Kisame stomp Bee
How is this even a debate 😭
They both are individually enough
He beats all of them expect Itachi pain and maybe kisame
Kisame is saying are you serious that Killerbee can beat all Akatsuki I already beat Killerbee .
I mean I think just Itachi (not sick) would’ve been enough, based off how Tsukuyomi was shown to work I’m inclined to believe that Bee wouldn’t be able to break out.
Even if he could, considering how Itachi was doing against Naruto as an Edo I don’t think Bee wouldn’t win
Furthermore I thing just Nagato would win without a doubt, like yeah Bee’s strong but Edo Nagato almost killed Naruto and Bee at the same time
Sasori vs bee is interesting I do think bee wins even if you scale sasori to ppl like beginning war arc Gaara before he gets the gold dust where he can react and block Ay (I don't remember if it was v1 or v2) and you have choy reacting to kcm1 Naruto (can't remember if it was on the manga tho it might have been filler).
Sasori is just weird to scale giving the fact he was holding back against Sakura and choy and we don't objectively know when he started holding back. We just know he was holding back.
Yeah I am aware I just didn’t want to talk about him and Deidara all that much bc I just made an in depth video on them and I didn’t wanna seem like I’m copy and pasting content
Huge misconception that itachi is stronger than jiraiya that’s a white wash jiraiya would flatten itachi
Holy shit, these guys are Itachi glazers
You have a Nagato pfp?
@@Virhtue And you have a Tobirama pfp?
@@Crowsbane4 and I am honest and say Minato wins and you?
@@Virhtue are you asking if I think Minato wins against Nagato?
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no itachi ain't winning his illness will kick in because he was already at death door a short fight with sasuke that he was winning only killed him faster and pain gets washed sage mode naruto is far weaker then killer bee.
naruto broke free from the rod's with just six tails uncontrolled but bee is a perfect host. bee speed blitz hard
sage mode naruto was also far weaker than pain, pain had already destroyed all of konoha and then soloed every single ninja in the village which left him very fatigued and then he still beat sage naruto who only won because the 6 tails v2 cloak bailed him when he was pinned down with chakra rods
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Sasori solos bee
Why so?
You guys have no idea what your talking about.
You can’t refute a single point
You wont get much subscriptions talking pure lies.
I got five comments from you and zero refutations so your helping me
@Virhtue lol I'll subscribe because you responded. And also I made these comments while things were still being said. So things were clarified
Later in the video. But you still said that i tails can break Tsyukuyomi. Zetsu implied it can be broken with stronger dojutsu.
Man literally lost to kisame. So the answer is no.
Saved 1 hour of your time. Dont thank me.
If you think that then please reread that fight. Samehada is a blitz level above Kisame, Bee bullied Kisame and was holding back and then just got fatigued in the bubble
@@Virhtue finally someone gets it
Kisame was also holding back and not tryna kill bee.Scaling samehada like it’s not part of his arsenal is crazy .Bee got washed ,kisame literally counters him .Bee got saved from Raikage ,1v1 bee is losing 100 times out of 10 .
@@217superninja no he’s not😭😭
Kisame slams lil bro watch naruto from reels
To be fair shikamaru has no anti-feats when it comes to speed mf is underrated when it comes to speed lol he perception blitz hidan.
Something else that's underrated is Kakashi's lightning blade
Uh yeah sure but no antifeats doesn’t justify a greater assertion than the initial claim
@@Virhtue it's been awhile I don't remember the initial claim
War Arc Bee beats everyone except the top 3. I think maybe he can beat Pain, considering he was combating against the Ten Tails.
He’s also faster than KCM1 Naruto arguably
Ok, to my admission, I havent watched this to its entirety and after Halloween I will, promise. Before that I just need to say Kisame did not "fail" to defeat Bee. He was specifically tasked by Obito to infaltrate the cloud to gain intel on the war. Otherwise, Kisame alone would've defeated Bee and if Kisame can beat him by himself, then any Akatsuki duo would absolutely be able to do so as well.
Obviously, Bee beats certain members individually but 2 or more? No! No, no, no and did I mention no and also NO! The Akatsuki disrespect needs to die.
Kakuzu & Hidan vs Bee is the best you're gonna get and I can make a case for them winning.
Well ofc yes technically ofc Kisame won but it’s similar to Pain, they failed to bring them back…
Kisame won because of Hostages.
@@HC-gm4fo nah bruh, that racoon was useless; fodder! Kisame would've beaten Bee with or without them. I'm not even insulting Bee, Kisame is 4th strongest Akatsuki member with his only competition being Sasori who killed the 3rd Kazekage.
For all we know, Kinkaku of the cloud may have been killed by Kakuzu given the latters assessment on the formers transformation.
@@Virhtue You're right. It was circumstantial ofc; plot.
@@ShadowFiend777 Nope, Bee would have one shot with the tailed beast bomb. Kisame couldn’t absorb the whole thing
8 tails cannot break Tsyukuyomi 😂😂. It can only be broken by superior Dojutsu.
Any casual fan who watched the show should know this
You lied in that statement, prove a higher Dojutsu breaks it
Pain vs bee is interesting as well. Personally i always thought sage mode Naruto was above pain and the only reason pain was able to pin down sm Naruto was bc he killed that old man frog and throw the dead body at Naruto and then pain ended up slamming and pinned sm Naruto. Outside of that SM Naruto was fucking pain up. 6 tails Naruto was overpowering pain.
The hidden leaf is fodder... besides Kakashi, Tsunade, and choji dad who do the leaf really have? Guy wasn't even there.
Pain is able to react to a faster version of Naruto in 6 tails v2 Naruto so it’s clear pain was always superior he simply was holding back due to not wanting to accidentally kill Naruto
@@IamVybez 6 tails Naruto was shitting on pain the whole time what are you talking about also where tf does 6 tails Naruto even scale to? Base on what it's stronger than sage mode Naruto? The mf is featless stop assuming stuff.
6 tails is probably around kcm 1
@@HC-gm4fo how??? They have no scaling connecting the 2.
You forget that the Deva Path is on cooldown? When the Deva Path got his cooldown, SM Naruto got mopped.
Kisame beat the hell outta bee bee had to play dead an run an hide he don’t beat kisame
Yes he does. He didn’t even transform all the way kisame loses
Kisame could steal his chakra easier if he transformed
@@jaioncebollero1168 Bee was going for killing blows (v2 lariat) while Kisame couldn't because he had to capture bee not kill him. Kisame didn't use his best jutsu that he used against Guy
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