What if Treebeard got The One Ring?
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After Treebeard's had the one ring for thousands of years- "Anyone notice anything odd about Treebeard? He seems a bit hasty lately."
Treebeard gets the One-Ring:
Fifty years later: "Hmm. I wonder if the Entwives all went to Mordor? Maybe I should go check."
@jackcrawford6078 Oh thank you for this comment 😂😂😂, it’s made my day 😂
"He doesn't look a day older than he did 3,000 years ago!"
His evil monologues would take WEEKS
Haha 😂
And what of the Entwives?
😂
Brilliant
No exaggeration detected.
Brilliant
Still waiting on what if the Innkeeper at the Prancing Pony got the One Ring.
Nah, what if the fox that encountered the hobbits in Woody End got the One Ring comes next.
What if the watcher of the water got the one ring
@@thefirstofthelast1181 Watcher did aim for Frodo indeed.
What if Farmer Maggot got the ring?
What if Rosie got the ring?
If the One Ring taps into deeply held desires, then perhaps it could've tempted Treebeard with the possibility of finding the Ent-wives...
The power of a Tree-bang.
@@dissuede6949 Got wood?
only to put him on a wild goosechase to mordor and to sauron?🤔
( if we think from the one ring's perspective💍)
@@sebastianthomsen2225 On the upside, you can't find a hotter hole than Mt. Doom to put your wood in.
@@Yugemosoh god😭
Tree beard is very, very old. So he should already have a whole lot of Tree Rings…
Good one😂
GOD DAMN YOU!!! I wanted to make that joke!! >:(
Outstanding
This is a truly terrible pun, and I regret that I can only click "like" once! 😉
Instead of a tree beard, you'd have a tree goatee! Not dark but bushy and covered in little field mice! Stronger than the foundations of the roots! All shall love his poetry and despair.
And all shall wither ere his poem is told in full.
@@imqqmi Well, that's just normal treebeard. =')
I think he would turn into a massive Giant Sequoia Tree-sized ent and be REALLY big. Or kinda like that massive Life Tree in Elden Ring, you know? He’d be a MASSIVE ent. You know?
Hoom! Hoom! Hoom! 🤓😎✌🏻
I'm dying over here mate
Finally, now we're asking the big questions!
I expect the next theory to be about if Merry and Pippin got the one ring, and how Second breakfast would come to dominate the lands
What about elevensies?!
Luncheon?!
Afternoon tea?!
Dinner?!
Supper?!
@@MarcusHalverstram
That's all part of the master plan, to be implemented later down the line.
The dinner line, if you will
@@MarcusHalverstram One meal to rule them all!
We can't forget about the all important matter of ensuring the rise of the all important pint!
@@thing_under_the_stairs it comes in pints!?
Would the ring not tempt him with the power to find the Entwives? Maybe even try to mislead him into believing he’s realized they’re being held captive somewhere in hopes that this would stir a hasty action of righteous anger that would get Sauron’s attention?
The easiest thing would be for the Ring to convince Treebeard that Sauron held the Entwives prisoner. Instant head-on attack on Mordor, direct delivery of the Ring to Sauron
Would mordor withstand the assault of all the trees in middle earth?
Perhaps satisfying only his lust and not his love. Let me just say I would not want to be one of the Uruk hai retreating.
Treebeard gets the One-Ring: "Hmm. I wonder if the Entwives all went to Mordor? Maybe I should go check."
@@stigmaoftheroseif he marshalled all of them? Maybe, maybe not. But if he was convinced that they didn't need such strength because their own powers were sufficient, he might go with too small of a force. Or he might go with quite the army...and then pledge it to Sauron's cause after being promised the freedom of the entwives if he collaborated and their final destruction if he refused.
Or, he might go traveling to muster such an army, and the ring slip off his finger in a convenient location along the way.
If he succumbed to the ring's urgings, it would not end well for Treebeard, one way or another.
Imagining the Ring trying to convince Treebeard to do things and it takes so long that even the immortal ring is like, "GET ON WITH IT ALREADY!!!"
"Yes, get on with it!"
@@theharper1 Someone gets it lol
@Tyranidus7 if it was another platform, I'd post a gif of Arthur and his kin-niggits. 😅
Old Man Willow is head wraith
the Birch King of Angmar
"One Branch to grow them all one branch to find them, and in the earth bind them" 🌳💍
lol that is so funny
Dude this is just plain old fun. Thanks for doin’ these videos.
On the one hand, Treebeard has a lot of stuff he desperately wants. The Entwives, the safety of his forest, for his people to not fall asleep and turn into trees. But on the other hand, he's so slow and prone to misplacing things, it would probably take the ring a century to corrupt him to the point of taking action.
The One Ring of Power would become The One Screaming Ring of Impatience.
"Its a bit nerdy and speculative, but that's what we do on this channel." Sh*t yeah, I'm here for it.
subscribing to this channel once wasn't enough. I've unsubscribed and subscribed again.
"it may need a bit of suspension of disbelief"
In a video about if a walking, talking, tree-man found a gold band made by a dark lord to subdue the world, I think we're already there lol
Instead of the dark lord, you would have a TREEEE
all the squirrels would look upon me and rejoice! Behold my mighty nuts!
I really enjoy when lore enjoyers delve into what-if scenarios like this. It shows a good understanding of the setting and the themes within it, as well as an understanding of the characters' peculiarities. I doubt Treebeard getting the Ring would end well for him and the Ents, but as stated, it could just simply sit in Fangorn for the centuries until it had the chance to move on. This time, not by Bilbo's hands, but another's...
One hellova morning wood
LOL
The price of firewood would go through the roof.
He would utter a terrible curse against Saruman, but being in Entish, it would never end
You had me at nerdy and speculative!
Thank you
A question that could be fun for you to work out. "What if the One Ring was never found by ether side? IE if the ring was not in the story."
That's easy though. Sauron wins - He had an overpowering force, and only moved early because he feared Aragorn had the ring. He would have just ground down all resistance in Gondor over time and then no nation would be able to withstand it.
While I agree with the general idea, "What if the armies of Mordor moved regardless of The Ring but the West isn't moved to action by the moving of The Ring" I think we already know the answer...Nothing much happens until The Ring is brought into play. Sauron was waiting for The Ring to be made rumor of or some kind, any kind, of hint was made about its whereabouts. The story doesn't happen until The Ring is found because the world has been operating that way for centuries. Skirmishes and wars are fought, politics are played, and everything just keeps going, waiting for the next thing to happen. It would be cool and epic in its own right, but "THE STORY" has to happen eventually, even if that story now is years later, with different characters (sans Gandolf and the like of course)
Who would attack first and where? Or does one side just collapse?
Sauron wins. The destruction of the ring was the only way to claim victory.
The irony is that if the One had indeed been flushed down the Anduin, like Saruman claimed to buy time to find it himself, Sauron's only weakness would've been out of reach of the Free Peoples.
He would've won.
The premise for this is outlandish even for this channel, and I’m FINE with that!
Next video : What if Doctor Who got the one ring?
@@jovetj What if Tommen Lannister's cat Ser Pounce got the One Ring?
I think that the best insight we might have into Treebeard's thoughts would be in Old Man Willow, where we're given perspective on how the trees of the Old Forest felt, "a malice for all things walking free on two legs". Old Man Willow was said to have been rotten to his core, but that his songs were mighty (we was able to sing songs of enchantment, bewilderment and sleepfulness on the Hobbits, after drawing them down into Withywindle Valley). I think also its worth considering Treebeards words when saying 'above all he *hates* the caging of free things'. That word hatred is very important, I think, as it speaks to Treebeard's emotions, which Saruman manipulated to his benefit so the Ring definitely could do the same. If you marry Treebeard's hatred for caging free things, and Old Man Willow's malice for all things walking free, I can easily imagine an interpretation where "all those walking free on two legs" were "caging" all those bound root and stem to the earth. A mighty resentment that Elves, Dwarves and Humans (and even Hobbits) could walk free but trees were caged to the ground (to say nothing of how trees are consumate victims of the fires of the Free Peoples) could drive Treebeard, the Ents and their Huorns, on a dark crusade to liberate themselves by the eradication of all non-plant life. Initially, this would be seen by Treebeard as an act of self-defence but would quickly turn into preemptive conquest against all future threats.
Your name made me laugh. I needed that. Thank you!
He’d probably talk about it for 3,000 years and say about 9 sentences in total.
"Throw it into the fire!"
"Don't be hasty"
@DR-rs6ou well said.
Using all the ancillary perspectives and conversations to essentially decipher Treebeard's character was brilliant. He has that honest, earnest quality with being very protective and honourable. Oddly enough that's the personality type of many protagonists/heroes, albeit; Treebeard's motives are spanned across centuries and not seconds, so it's hard to see him in such a light. Just my 2p, he's similar to Ned Stark and all those honourable like him; they are very easy to manipulate once you've sensed them out. With all your points and difference in perception notwithstanding; I concur that the One Ring would eventually make Treebeard turn a dark leaf.
I have no idea why but I really love Tree Beard
Based
@@andorifjohn thank you
right and proper based
@@captainmaim thank you
As a flight of fancy, I think there could be a quite interesting story as to how Treebeard could have found the ring and secrets it away. Especially if it was able to convince him that it was precious quickly enough to cause him not to just forget it. I imagine that it wouldn't be used in any of the ways that we have seen, but rather as a twisting of the natural facets of the world. When the hobbits were attacked directly by a tree, being healed and made immobile, trapped against their will, and being their power would be the hint as to the nature of how an angry forest would assert itself. Imagine the centuries that Gollum possessed the ring now being replaced by a malignant intent injected into a forest already known for its treachery. I imagine that over the years, rather than becoming a viable force of war, the first, under the direction of a corrupted tree herder, begins to expand. By the time the power of Sauron becomes strong enough to challenge the world of men, the battles would play out in much the same way, up until Saruman's treachery at Isengard. This would them become the spark that ignites the righteous rage of a festering forest to take action. This spark, however, would not abate at the re-taking of Isengard, but rather start the Ents towards conquest of all those who have consistently assailed their kind.
The larger question, the dependency upon which all this relies, is if Sauron and his ring would realize this potential from this scenario. I think a case could be made about this especially if the story plays it with Treebeard becoming rooted, and growing unnaturally at the center of his domain. The new great tree from which dominance reigns across the land, the dark echo of the light of the two trees from the past. Anyway, as mentioned, a flight of fancy that I thought might make a fun perspective.
Thank you for always providing these videos, full of lore and perspective.
That last image is great.
I asked myself this several times more jokingly, and no one would ever care to reply. Great to see that finally someone tackles this slightly ridiculous question in a video!
I'd be more worried if I asked myself something, and someone _did_ reply! 😅
@@grantwinney Contrary to popular belief (yep, I'm a psychologist), hearing voices in itself is not worrying, and self-conversations even less 🙂
Now this is the kind of information we need! Haha i think this is my favorite video so far
I would think he would try to use the power to find the entwives. If it whispered to him, that it knew their location, I think he would go to great lengths to get there.
We don't know the full powers of Treebeard when he's wearing the One Ring. For all we know, he could re-grow all the Ents and Entwives who ever lived, he could make the forests grow rapidly. Maybe he could grow to such an enormous size that he could crush any army beneath his trunks.
Aside from giving non-spiritual beings the ability to walk on the spirit side of the world (making them invisible to non-spiritual side and more visible on the spirit side) and stretching out life spans, the ring isn't shown to grant any powers. The characters that would be the most dangerous with it (like Gandalf and Galadriel) already have the powers that would make them dangerous.
The One Ring is dangerous because of how it changes one's thoughts and actions, not because it provides some crazy powers. Gollum had it for a long time and never gained anything remarkable from it.
This is brilliant. Exactly why I subscribe to this channel. Thank you, Robert!
It seems to me he would use it in attempts to find the Entwives. That seemed to be the one great desire of Ents.
i think that everyone gets Sam wrong, you described the ring tempting Sam but Sam was not tempted by it, and in the movie everyone thinks that Sam is tempted by it when he hesitates to give it back to frodo. I believe he was hesitant because of what it was doing to frodo not that he wanted it for himself
Fine, the ring “tempts” Sam, but his character is on solid foundations, he is never “tempTED.” The ring offers “temptations” like Jesus was tempted in the desert.
I like your line of thinking. He was always looking out for Frodo
Sure.
In the movie it suggests that Sam would perhaps prefer to keep it.
Whether that is for his own benefit, or to protect Frodo, is irrelevant - cuz that is precisely how the Ring taps into your weaknesses....
It corrupts that which would've been good, if left unmarred.
Also, I think you completely miss the point of temptation, like someone else also noted.
Sam did have visions in the book, and he hesitated in the film.
That's feeling the temptation....
If he was not tempted at all, he'd have been like Tom Bombadil, who'd have lost the ring for he cared naught.
If anything, what made Sam remarkable was that he was tempted, but never gave in!
He is not pure in the sense of Tom, but in the sense of being the only creature ever to have worn the ring yet voluntarily returned it - a feat much more impressive than even ancient Tom could've ever managed!
@@MrNicoJac that’s the point, you can tempt me and i can imagine all i want to about if i took it but if i have literally no struggle on if to actually give in then there is no temptation
My first thought was, by the time he did anything with it, the war would over.
I think he's like Tom Bombdil, not so much in that he would be resistant, but that he would probably misplace it. He lost the entwives, so he has a track record of losing things.
how is treebeard like tom bombadil whatsoever? treebeard literally went to war which is essentially anti-bombadil
@@StoneDeceiver Maybe you should read everything in the comment that comes AFTER "like Tom Bombadil".
@StoneDeceiver you're telling me tom wouldn't go to war if someone insulted his wife?
@@StonedHunter Nah, he'd laugh at them, then shrug and say "to each his own."
@@StonedHunter
Lol, are you crazy?? 😜
Don't be silly....
If someone insulted the wife of Tom, a being who witnessed _all_ of time from even before such a thing existed, it would have seemed to him like an ant trying to steal a breadcrumb from your plate - utterly inconsequential, if somewhat amusing perhaps, for a brief moment, until you moved on living your life ;)
Just logged in to see this.. what acorny idea.
Honestly, thanks a lot for all these videos. It must be hard to find new subjects after all these years of regular new discussions, and your videos are always among the ones I listen to with the most care out of all the ones I listen to/watch. So, yeah, thanks from across the channel, I did find this video quite amusing, at least for how non-standard the subject was
I know its so out there that Tolkien probably never even had a single fleeting thought about it, but its still a fun thought experiment because Treebeard is like the polar opposite to what Sauron/Mordor represented for Tolkien (i.e the destructive industry of the world wars vs the preservation of nature).
Never really realised how much I relate to Treebeard before this video.
Value all living things. Believe everything and everyone deserves second/third/and more chances.
Don't like things happening quickly.
Don't like being on fire.
Gave up searching for my wife.
Looking after lesser creatures in place of ever having my own offspring.
Very relatable.
Plausible alternate timeline: The Uruk-hai catch Frodo instead of Merry and Pippen. Just like regular timeline, they head back towards Orthanc, get whacked by Eomer and friends, Frodo escapes into Fanghorn, runs into Treebeard, and gives him the ring.
I always want to see what would happen if Boromir had taken the ring.
I suspect the Ringwraiths would find him soon enough, kill him (wandering by himself invisible in Emyn Muil) and get it to Sauron
@@niels1142 likely!
@@niels1142 Also, Saruman would've taken out Rohan, the Ents would never have gotten involved and Minis Tirith would have fallen.
Have you heard the tragedy of Arthas of Lordaeron? It's not a tale the mages of Dalaran would tell you.
Arthas was a paladin of great promise, destined to inherit the throne and protect his people. But in his zeal to save his kingdom from a terrible plague, he was led down a dark path.
Seeking power to defeat the undead scourge, Arthas claimed a cursed runeblade, believing it would grant him the strength to save his people. In his quest to protect Lordaeron, he became the very thing he sought to destroy. The blade consumed his soul, transforming him into a champion of the undead.
In the end, Arthas brought ruin to his kingdom, slaying his own father and leading the undead armies against the living. Ironic, Arthas sought to defeat death, only to become its greatest servant.
@@prosiescoteau2152
"What are you doing?!"
"Succeeding you..."
Very interesting premise. I like how you focused on Treebeard's hatred of creatures being kept; this is certainly a possible outcome. However, I think Treebeard would have relentlessly searched for the missing Entwives.
You know what, Geeker? I clicked on your video thinking, "What a ridiculous topic," but you actually convinced me that this was a legitimate subject for speculation and that one can actually learn something about the legendarium in doing so. Very good job.
The ring might tempt him into some drastic action to find the Entwives again.
Your next video should be "What if Samwise got the One Ring and used it to turn Mordor into a garden"
"It's a bit nerdy and far fetched..." I would hope so!
Very interesting question! What would happen if Treebeard acquired the ring? Knowing how peaceful Ents are, I think you're right, not a whole lot would happen. Maybe he would create more beauty in Middle Earth.
But at what cost?
“We wouldn’t see much change in him right away”
Except for being invisible.
Excellent stuff. Being deep in the geek zone re Middle Earth for many winters this "what if" I had not considered. Treebeard a great and powerful Old Man Willow in the deep dark fastness of Fangorn.
robert finally getting back to the real topics like aragorns tax policies and what if tree beard got the ring. love it!
I'm a fan of the more out there theories like this. I think it's fun to think about because the world and characters are so well developed.
Hi Robert, this is Martin. Thank you for this amazing channel ❤
What if Bill the Pony got the one ring?
Damn, you beat me to it. Had to delete my comment!
Bill the Pony, ultimate villain.
He got no fingers tho
@albinokanickel4492 Maybe a hoof, or his tail?
@@MrNoucfeanor i fancy that Idea. Maybe a prothestic Hand.
OATS FOR THE OAT LORD!!!
I have watched ALL your videos regarding LoTR and I think this is one of your best takes yet! Jolly good show ol' chap lol
This was a fun one - I have one for you... Remember how Tom Bombadil took some jewelry from the Barrow Downs for Goldberry? WHAT IF... Tom Bombadil gave The One Ring to Goldberry as a gift, a pretty ring he found or the Council of Elrond gave it to him and he forgot what it was and thought she might like it...
Just the right kind of nerdy content I needed while drinking my morning coffee, thanks.
I believe Tree Beard and his kind would be like the Dwarfs unphased by the overall domination of the ring but I agree they would be affected even if the effects are nothing more then turning His Fangorn forest into an Impenetrable Fortress!!! 🤠👍
A point of note. Green wood is incredibly difficult to ignite. Especially if coverd in mud. So I can envision an army of ents, digging miles of canals to carry water from diverted rivers and streams to keep themselves hydrated and covered in wet mud, then donning additional protective wooden armor and brandishing giant ironwood staves and clubs. It would be an army of comic book Groots and could decimate even the fiercest of enemy armies.
I imagine they would even defeat Sauron and his dark riders.
In such an alternate middle earth, I imagine the eagles and many other magical beasts would join the ents in hunting down and vanquishing evil.
Oh man, if we're doing this angle, I want to hear about the sheer horror that is Shelob (book version) getting the ring. Heck, there was even an opportunity for it.
Would it have called to her? Or was Gollum's guess right and she'd overlook it, granting him the opportunity to slink off with precious again?
The ring could not slip off it would have to be chopped off, Treebread could grow his finger in a circle around it
What would happen if the watcher in the water got the ring?
Ask H.P. Lovecraft.
Rousing more and more trees into a grim resentful huorn state of being is something I could see Treebeard doing under the influence and with the help of the One Ring.
I love your channel and content I’m a MASSIVE Tolkien fan and you do a fantastic job telling his stories and breaking them down making it easier, in my opinion,understand Tolkien’s Legendairm! Thank you ❤
Treebeard with the One Ring would be the epitome of hastiness.
Her: he is probably thinking about other women
Me: what if Treebeard got the One Ring?
Robert, answering the questions we didn't know we had.
Sauron: put on the ring and we'll find the Entwives
Treebeard: no way, sold
The one thing Treebeard wants most is to find the Endwives. He would use the ring to search for them.
Hey Treebeard, the Entwives are in Mordor. They are slowly migrating toward a very large colony of beavers. We better go save them!
Treebeard with the One Ring is just Warhammer Fantasy's Durthu. A well meaning treeman who through years of watching Trees and forests being destroyed has grown a great rage and now believes that mortals can't be trusted and they should all be killed to protect the Forests.
"In his most earliest history, Durthu was a being that knew the concept of compassion during his time with the elves of Ulthuan, a time when that race's greatest characteristics was their boundless compassion to all life. Now Durthu's benevolence is gone, replaced by an abiding madness. No longer is he a healer and teacher; he has taken up a sword, forged specially for him by Daith, and become solely a destroyer. He makes no distinction between the lost, the innocent, and the wicked - all who tread Durthu's beloved glades without leave are doomed if the Elder happens upon them. "
He would name himself "LordOfTheRings-acus" and then insist he isn't the Lord Of The Rings.
As pointed out, the Ring wants to return to Sauron. Perhaps the best way to accomplish that if in Treebeard's possession would be to instill in Treebeard's mind that the Entwives could be found in Mordor. If anything would cause Treebeard and the other Ents to venture out of the forest with the Ring, surely this would be it.
I love love love that dark ent painting, whoever did it.
He'd find all the entwives and create a harem.
Socially, Tree Beard would definitely be bullied for being the only one in the forest sporting bling-bling. This alone might very well lead Tree Beard down the darkest of roads.
Chancellor Palpatine, "nerdy and speculative" are our speciality.
I'm just amazed that you already have over 38,000 views in just 6 hours!
I've not watched the video yet, but I know the answer. ENTWIVES EVERYWHERE
A very interesting "What if..."
More of these unique "What if..." videos.
I adore these "What If...? videos so much I was inspired to answer a question regarding "What if Smaug got the One Ring?" on Quora.
TreeBeard would lead his Huorns on the Warpath and wipe out many human settlements and Orc Dwellings as he sought out the Entwives.
"Henceforth, all creatures will memorize The Lore of Living Creatures!
First name the four, the free peoples ..."
What if Bill the Pony got the One Ring?
"Instead of a Dark Lord you would have a STEED! Companionable and munching on a lawn.
Placid as can be! Stronger than the blade plowing up the earth! All shall groom me and brush my hair."
The ring, after Treebeard put it on: "I did not expect this... But I'm intrigued."
Ok, this is it. The “what if” that broke the wizard’s back. It was fun whilst it lasted.
I feel like if anything, Treebeard would be tempted to encourage Fangorn itself to be excessively free. You'd get a sort of wild nature anarchy where all the trrees become more and more awake than they've ever been. So, it wouldn't be Treebeard himself that would be corrupted and driven to evil deeds. It would be his flock.
He would use it to find the entwives
"and I'll see you again soon" is such a warm, storyteller sign off.
You've actually hit something ive never considered. Not worth much but im impressed
Then the Old Willow King of the Withywindle, the black captain of Lord Treebeard himself, walked through the shattered gates of Minas Tirith and in a voice like the groaning of a forest in a terrible gale, spoke - “the age of men is over, the time of the trees has come!”
One what if scenario I'd like to see explored is "What if Cirdan had given Narya to Saruman instead of Gandalf?"
Imagine if Treebeard would wade through the Anduin after losing a silly bet and touch upon the Ring with his toes. The real fun begins if you consider a scenario where Sauron hadn't returned yet
I imagine the Ring spurring Treebeard to liberate the slaves of Mordor, or defend the landscape there. In that way it would lead him into Sauron's grasp. It would probably defend him and his forces in the lead up, maybe even give him dominion over the forces arrayed against him. But at the point of no return, when it was most critical, its power would abandon him, returning Sauron's control over his forces. No need to physically escape from him if he delivers it into the heart of Mordor.
So Treebeard in my scenario arrives with an army of Ents and Orcs and maybe even some Nazgul at the gates of Mordor, but as soon as they close behind him he is instead surrounded by the forces of darkness.
if we start speculating... Can Gandalf heal himself? Like a Wolverine or so. He's been in a near-mortal form for hundreds of years - and have never felt from a horse, never slipped off a cliff, never hurt his ankle in a middle of nowhere, where nobody can help him? Gandalf's resurrection was a big thing, so all those years before that he somehow managed not to die
The Gamgees and their ilk would be out of existence! 😮🤓😎✌🏻
Sam's temptation towards the ring sounds oddly like upcoming mania phase in bipolar disorder :) .
I'm pretty sure that he would transform parts of Middle Earth into gardens like the entwifes had, in the hope that they would return. And whoever lived there would probably be crushed. This is his strongest desire, and I'm surprised that you didn't mention that.
Before listening: find Entwives at any price!
Didn't book Treebeard already know about Saruman's rapid deforestation? The Hobbits merely told him about his other misdeeds and what happened outside the forest, which just hastens what he already thought