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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 471

  • @playerofrock04
    @playerofrock04 15 дней назад +901

    Hello, Robert. This is everyone.

    • @archmage_of_the_aether
      @archmage_of_the_aether 15 дней назад +32

      Not me, I'm chaotic neutral

    • @captaincookie2785
      @captaincookie2785 15 дней назад +9

      ​@@archmage_of_the_aetherMe neither, cause I'm lawful chaotic. 🙃

    • @darkshibe2267
      @darkshibe2267 15 дней назад +12

      As opposed to the two comments about, playerofrock04 is representing me in this comment.

    • @alexcoleman2735
      @alexcoleman2735 15 дней назад +9

      Welcome to Too Nerdy to Turn Back

    • @captaincookie2785
      @captaincookie2785 15 дней назад

      @@darkshibe2267 *above

  • @wanderhillen2435
    @wanderhillen2435 15 дней назад +282

    I like the theory that when Aule originally made the dwarves, he did not know how Middle Earth would turn out. So, just to be sure, he made them as sturdy as possible. He made them so sturdy in fact that even the rings were not powerful enough to seriously alter them.

    • @istari0
      @istari0 15 дней назад +53

      He made them that way because he knew the Dwarves would awaken in a world where Melkor lived so they needed to be resistant to domination.

    • @cristianh.5133
      @cristianh.5133 15 дней назад +38

      It's not a theory. Aule created them after Melkor had taken over Middle Earth, so he made them hard to corrupt.

    • @shiroamakusa8075
      @shiroamakusa8075 15 дней назад +10

      The whole Nauglamir affair shows that no, Dwarfs can actually be easily corrupted. I mean Morgoth didn't even do anything here and yet the Dwarfs saw fit to bring ruin over Doriath just because of a quarrel over a trinket.

    • @differous01
      @differous01 15 дней назад +11

      Aulë was able to hide what he'd created from Eru himself, so Thrain's ability to conceal the map and key from Sauron (long after forgetting his own name) suggests he was made in Aulë's image.

    • @caleb_wesman
      @caleb_wesman 15 дней назад +2

      I like your idea. It's enjoyable

  • @OddlySpecificGaming
    @OddlySpecificGaming 15 дней назад +164

    Possibly just making the dwarves look inwards and into their mountains is a win in itself rather than helping men and elves fight

    • @christopherbrice5473
      @christopherbrice5473 15 дней назад +6

      huge suppliers of mithril too

    • @Grancigul
      @Grancigul 15 дней назад +9

      Undoutably, also its important to note that while they didnt end up his slaves, they did end up attracting dragons that brought about death and destruction and made it exponentially easier to conquer them. Had not the ring been destroyed the siege of The Lonely mountain would have succeded, and that was the biggest and strongest realm of dwarves in the West. Enslaving them the old fashioned way from that point would have been simple enough

    • @christopherbrice5473
      @christopherbrice5473 15 дней назад +4

      @@Grancigul I don't see the dwarves surrendering under any circumstances.

    • @karlsweeney2328
      @karlsweeney2328 15 дней назад +4

      True enough, but probably not to Sauron's mind. The idea that his unending need for control being manifested in a product of his most devoted craft just not working on these fools would be maddening. At least, that's what I think. Let me know what you think down in the comments.

  • @maximuschung2076
    @maximuschung2076 15 дней назад +183

    Every video is a 10+ minute escape into some of my favourite fantasy with a majestic narrator 👌🏻

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj 15 дней назад +5

      The epitome of quality content, and nerdy delight.

    • @maximuschung2076
      @maximuschung2076 14 дней назад +4

      @@jovetj couldn’t of said it better myself

  • @varjagen4160
    @varjagen4160 15 дней назад +111

    Lad, I've been having trouble sleeping after the sudden death of my best friend, but your videos are so nice and relaxing that after watching an hour of them, i can fall right asleep. Thanks for the amazing, in depth, and calming videos ❤

    • @InDeepGeek
      @InDeepGeek  15 дней назад +46

      Thank you. That means a lot. And every blessing to you.

    • @_whatsername1911
      @_whatsername1911 15 дней назад

      @@varjagen4160 Sorry for your loss. 💘

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 15 дней назад +13

      My sympathies, for your loss. I know how it feels.
      As a wise space wizard once said however, "No one's ever _really_ gone."
      You'll meet again some day - until then, honour them by keeping them in your heart and living the best life you can.
      Hang in there. You aren't alone.

    • @scottfitzpatrick1939
      @scottfitzpatrick1939 15 дней назад +2

      Thats the worst 😢 so sorry to hear that. ❤

    • @playermade
      @playermade 15 дней назад +4

      Sorry for your loss.

  • @Redipstick
    @Redipstick 15 дней назад +276

    The seven rings ended up with Sleepy, Sneezy, Happy, Bashful, Grumpy, Dopey and Doc.

    • @_whatsername1911
      @_whatsername1911 15 дней назад +13

      I laughed way too hard at that being out in public

    • @LordOfNothingreally
      @LordOfNothingreally 15 дней назад +17

      Headcanon accepted

    • @rileydavidson207
      @rileydavidson207 15 дней назад +10

      Is snow white an elf than?

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 15 дней назад +13

      ​@@rileydavidson207
      Snow White (Los Nim in Sindarin) is Sauron in disguise.

    • @MichaelRainey
      @MichaelRainey 14 дней назад +16

      Heigh ho, heigh ho, to the Lonely Mountain we go

  • @jorgeborbinha3207
    @jorgeborbinha3207 15 дней назад +99

    Sauron to Melkor: "I have a cunning plan, my lord. So cunning as a fox who's just been appointed professor of cunning at Oxford University."

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 15 дней назад +3

      ​@@ChinceMcMahon316
      "Sauron, what begins with 'come here' and ends in _skai_ ?"
      "I don't know my lord."
      "Sauron, come here."
      🔥💥🔥
      " *_Skai!_* "

    • @maximuschung2076
      @maximuschung2076 14 дней назад +10

      @@jorgeborbinha3207 you mean a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel

    • @Widdershins.
      @Widdershins. 12 дней назад +4

      I smiled the moment I heard him say that. I wondered if he was a fan of Blackadder.

    • @jorgeborbinha3207
      @jorgeborbinha3207 12 дней назад +1

      @@Widdershins. Me too! I chuckled 😁

    • @colmhain
      @colmhain 12 дней назад

      Well, that was just over the top.

  • @sysiphuspeart9012
    @sysiphuspeart9012 15 дней назад +43

    StoneFEET!

    • @mariecarie1
      @mariecarie1 14 дней назад +1

      I thought the exact same thing 😂

  • @gloweye
    @gloweye 13 дней назад +19

    In the Council of Elrond in the books, Dragonfire is even discussed as a potential way to destroy the one ring - but Gandalf doubts that even the fire of the most powerful dragon ever - who was already dead - would be sufficient for this one.

  • @egorka9468
    @egorka9468 15 дней назад +62

    The calmest voice on YT

    • @annecarter5181
      @annecarter5181 15 дней назад +1

      Pure velvet……….

    • @chrisbolland5634
      @chrisbolland5634 15 дней назад

      Moth Light Media is amazing too. Like butter. He explores the lore of Earth and it's creatures, kind alike this channel, but for real life.

    • @karlsweeney2328
      @karlsweeney2328 15 дней назад +1

      Sometimes, when my brother and I do an impression of this dude, a little Winnie the Pooh seems to creep in, which I think speaks to your point.

    • @blindasabat2517
      @blindasabat2517 12 дней назад

      When I first heard Robert, I thought it was Rory McGrath. An English tv personality.

    • @brotmann7661
      @brotmann7661 12 дней назад

      Literally sounds like AI

  • @iagmusicandflying
    @iagmusicandflying 14 дней назад +25

    Love that whole "least of rings, but a trifle Sauron fancies." Such underselling of what you're after, along with such a high reward for it would make me instantly extremely suspicious. If a deal is too good to be true...well. It usually is. Glad to see the Dwarves didn't fall for that (honestly ham-handed) play.

    • @dromankass8655
      @dromankass8655 13 дней назад +2

      It's like the original Aladdin tale, when the Vizier tricks Aladdin's wife out of the Magic Lamp by pretending to be an old lamp seller offering to swap 'old lamps for new'. She hands over the old magic lamp and is given a shiny new none-magical one in return.

    • @misterkami2
      @misterkami2 9 дней назад +1

      Yeah, it definitely seems more desperate than cunning to downplay it that much.
      Also, expecting the dwarves not to realize enough about the history of the last alliance to put two and two together is almost funny

  • @dandiehm8414
    @dandiehm8414 14 дней назад +15

    Hello Robert. At 11:08 - There is no reason why the Dwarf Rings would be at Mount Doom. They were probably at the Barad Dur.

  • @SindarinElealar
    @SindarinElealar 13 дней назад +28

    @6:40 In the Council of Elrond, it is noted that dragonfire could potentially destroy the One Ring but they could not try, since with Smaug dead, no dragons of sufficient power were around.

    • @thelandlord111
      @thelandlord111 12 дней назад +2

      A dragon would just keep the ring though.

    • @VivaLaPigotry
      @VivaLaPigotry 11 дней назад +3

      That was th​e other concern that was expressed @@thelandlord111

  • @billmiller4972
    @billmiller4972 14 дней назад +13

    I do like the dwarves.
    Hardy, strongwilled, great craftsmen and their friendship never wears out.

  • @DavidKJohnson1988
    @DavidKJohnson1988 14 дней назад +11

    It’s interesting that rings that were likely originally meant for elves are always depicted with dwarvish designs.

  • @norad_clips
    @norad_clips 12 дней назад +6

    3:26 “Careful out there buddy, I hear there’s some potentially dangerous rings going about.”

  • @GrimGrayve
    @GrimGrayve 2 дня назад +1

    I’ve often wondered about Sauron offering the dwarves rings in the Third Age.
    Sauron: So I want to offer you these 3 remaining rings, they will make you powerful!
    Dwarves: Can it help us dig for gold?
    Dwarves: Or find precious gems?
    Sauron: Well, not help you exactly…
    Dwarves: Ask him about Mithril.
    Dwarves: Yes! Will it help us in mining Mithril?
    Sauron: They don’t really work like that…
    Dwarves: Are they at least made of Mithril?
    Sauron: You know what, just never mind.

  • @luudest
    @luudest 15 дней назад +21

    8:55 One of my favorite part in the Lord Of The Rings. When the story of the Messenger is told. Shivering!

  • @faszikilawang8445
    @faszikilawang8445 15 дней назад +17

    I like to imagine they all had a unique but, less impressive power than The One. Like you can turn any sandwich into tuna salad on white bread, you can turn water into kool aid made with Splenda, you can decode a cereal box. One is just a mood ring.

    • @scribblescribble
      @scribblescribble 14 дней назад +4

      The One Ring is definitely the mood ring: The script only appears when Sauron gets a bit heated.

    • @orsomethingorno
      @orsomethingorno 6 дней назад +1

      Another makes you invisible -- romantically.

  • @mauricioalvarez8311
    @mauricioalvarez8311 15 дней назад +10

    Hi Robert, this is everyone.
    Thank you for the amazing content! Love your vids!

  • @89technical
    @89technical 14 дней назад +5

    WOW! I posted this comment a few weeks ago and you literally made a video on it! Thank you!!!
    I always wondered why he wanted the rings back and now we know. Thank you

  • @istari0
    @istari0 15 дней назад +11

    One interesting thing is that the Dwarven houses from the Ered Luin, the Firebeards and the Broadbeams, mostly relocated to Khazad-dûm after the War of Wrath. As far as I know, Tolkien never specified if they later moved elsewhere to re-establish independent homelands. I suspect they did, because otherwise there would have been 3 Rings of Power in Khazad-dûm. There's certainly room for them to have done so in the area around the northern Misty Mountains.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 15 дней назад +5

      Some did go to Khazad-dûm but there are indications that those dwarves never completely gave up their presence in the Ered Luin. After all that's where Thráin led the survivors of Durin's Folk after Khazad-dûm, Ered Mithrin, and Erebor were lost to them. Perhaps the dwarven community was better established there than in the Iron HIlls.

    • @Not-Ap
      @Not-Ap 10 дней назад

      Well I heard that they mostly integrated into Khazad-dûm and followed the rule of the Longbeards. It is possible that there were indeed three dwarven rings in Khazad-dûm at one time. Khazad-dûm was the wealthiest, largest, and most powerful dwarven realm in the second age. This very well could have been due to Firebeards and Broadbeams diaspora that had come to live in Khazad-dûm in edition to their Lords having rings of their own. However this is also where the Balrog incident happened which could been directly tied to three rings being present in one location.

  • @dlxmarks
    @dlxmarks 15 дней назад +21

    The whole ring gambit was a disaster for Sauron. He gained 9 powerful servants but the Ring failed to control the elves, dwarves, or the most powerful human kingdom. The Ring increased his own powers but still not enough to crush the elves or put up a decent fight against the Númenóreans. I don't think it was even necessary to corrupt Ar-Pharazôn since the king was already set to head down that path. And finally after being out of his possession far far longer than it had been in it, the Ring was destroyed and he with it.

    • @marcpeterson1092
      @marcpeterson1092 14 дней назад +4

      12:04 Pretty poor plan on Sauron's part. Less than 50% success rate. Half baked.

  • @TheSuperBanana8747
    @TheSuperBanana8747 14 дней назад +5

    It's so funny to think of the dwarves from sauron's point of view. You have these insane rings that terrify the elves and correupt mortal men. You try to use them to corrupt the dwarves, but the dwarves ignore you. You get the rings back, tune them up, but the dwarves ignore you again. You try tempt them with power wealth, since that's what they seem to want, but they ignore you AGAIN because they'd rather do it themselves. I'd be so offended 😂

  • @PaulGardnerStephen
    @PaulGardnerStephen 13 дней назад +5

    I suspect that the elves only noticed when Sauron put the one ring on, because they were wearing rings that Sauron hadn't touched. The rings that Sauron had a hand in building it is quite reasonable that Sauron influenced their function so that they would not warn the wearer, since his whole plan really depended on this.

    • @JamesPerkins
      @JamesPerkins День назад

      Phishing message detected from @sauron1337 . do you want to take off your ring?

  • @rorystockley5969
    @rorystockley5969 14 дней назад +5

    I really want to see a video for "Where did all the Dwarves from The Hobbit end up?"
    Obviously some died, but some went on to do all sorts of things

    • @meganofsherwood3665
      @meganofsherwood3665 13 дней назад

      Hopefully he'll repost that one soon

    • @Widdershins.
      @Widdershins. 12 дней назад +2

      Sadly, none of them got hired for the live action remake of Snow White.

    • @TETASARAIVACS
      @TETASARAIVACS 8 дней назад +2

      …. “Of the ten companions who had survived the Battle of Five Armies seven were still [in Erebor with Dáin, King under the Mountain]: Dwalin, Glóin, Dori, Nori, Bifur, Bofur and Bombur. Bombur was now so fat that he could not move himself from his couch to his chair at table, and it took six young dwarves to lift him.
      ‘And what has become of Balin and Ori and Óin?’ asked Frodo.
      A shadow passed over Glóin’s face. ‘We do not know,’ he answered”
      (BOOK TWO, Chapter 1: MANY MEETINGS)
      Balin and Óin and Ori went to Moria, to try and reclaim it (Balin was killed by an archer by the Mirrowmere, Óin was killed by the Watcher in the Water, and Ori was killed on their last stand by the Chamber of Mazarbul, he was the one who wrote the last words of the book Gandalf reads).
      Thórin, Fíli and Kíli were killed in the Battle of Five Armies.

  • @RoamingAdhocrat
    @RoamingAdhocrat 13 дней назад +2

    I'm amazed there's so many topics that perfectly fit a 10-15 minute video

  • @XshuShali
    @XshuShali 15 дней назад +45

    I am sad that he deleted all of his older videos just to redo them. I'd like if he left them up UNTIL he re-did them, but... I'm excited for ungoliant, and shelob again.

    • @BdonkinDonuts
      @BdonkinDonuts 15 дней назад

      I feel like Amazon bought him at this point, considering the only thing that has changed is the addition of stills from RoP.🤑

    • @Grancigul
      @Grancigul 15 дней назад +2

      Agreed. I am of course happy he is improving upon them, but i do miss them. I am really glad i downloaded the 3 videos covering the whole war of the ring

    • @BdonkinDonuts
      @BdonkinDonuts 15 дней назад +2

      Thanks for proving my point.

    • @Vito_Tuxedo
      @Vito_Tuxedo 14 дней назад +17

      @@Grancigul ...if indeed they are being improved. It has been disturbing to see images from _Rings of Power_ intruding into recent videos. Those characters are in no way representative of their genuine Tolkien legendarium counterparts. I used to look forward to these videos; however, the inclusion of images from a production that has done such violence to the Tolkien legacy is...well, disappointing at best. It doesn't feel right.

    • @BdonkinDonuts
      @BdonkinDonuts 14 дней назад +2

      @@Vito_Tuxedo They aren't improved. I said earlier that the only change was stills from Rings of Power being inserted and my comment was deleted.

  • @nigeldepledge3790
    @nigeldepledge3790 13 дней назад +3

    Here's an odd thing about the Seven - their power did not allow Sauron to control them as he hoped.
    But, before Sauron served Melkor, he was a maia of Aulë. (This is how Sauron is such a master craftsman.) I find it surprising that he did not learn from Aulë that the dwarves were made to be resistant to outside influences.

    • @marieroberts5664
      @marieroberts5664 13 дней назад +3

      The dwarves were a great secret, kept from everyone, including Yavanna, Aule's wife...and he told no one, except for her, after he got busted by Eru.
      The dwarves were a shock to everyone.

  • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
    @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 14 дней назад +4

    We're told that Sauron coveted mithril, so maybe he wanted the Dwarves to have the rings so that they would find and mine any that existed, which he could take from them at leisure.

  • @jaykaramales3087
    @jaykaramales3087 11 дней назад +1

    I love the thought and reasoning you apply to these topics. I've been a devotee ("fan" is too weak a word) of the Professor for 45 years, yet you ask (and answer) the questions I never thought to ask.

  • @Ttamlin
    @Ttamlin 6 дней назад +1

    Have you ever done a video on the history of the dragons in Middle Earth? My partner and I were watching this and she asked me why there were no dragons in LoTR. My assumption is that Smaug was the last of the dragons, which I believe you've touched on in past videos. But when I went to search through your catalog, I didn't see anything specifically focusing on dragons within Tolkein's works. If I missed it, then I'd love to know. If you've not done one, maybe a worthwhile idea?
    Either way, thanks for making all these. Yours is among my favorite channels on RUclips. I appreciate the work you put in to making these videos very much.

  • @nathantaylor1618
    @nathantaylor1618 7 дней назад

    I'd have preferred Robert playing a lore master recording everything from the big party at end of return of king where "all stories were told"

  • @SteveT211
    @SteveT211 15 дней назад +1

    Thanks as always Robert. Appreciate your content ❤

  • @KohuGaly
    @KohuGaly 14 дней назад +2

    Sauron's ringcraft has some notable similarities to the magic Aule used to create the original dwarves. The original dwarves were basically robots mindcontrolled by Aule (somewhat similar to nazgul), before Eru imbued them with real souls. The "dwarven soul" was literally created to counteract the kind of mind-control effect that was build into the rings of power by Sauron.

  • @davidwood6171
    @davidwood6171 3 дня назад

    Great videos. I always enjoying watching/listening to them. Keep it up!

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 15 дней назад +14

    Well apparently they needed the rings because they had a bit of a cave in that stopped them growing their food, so they needed the rings to fix it instead of just buying food from others lol

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 15 дней назад +7

      Is that a Rings of Power plotpoint? That sounds like one of RoP's nonsense plots.

    • @TheSuperRatt
      @TheSuperRatt 15 дней назад +7

      The cave-in was just a symptom. They lost their connection to the spirit of the mountain that housed Khazad-Dûm, which made all manner of normal tasks (like mining) uncertain. When the sunshafts collapsed, a ton of rubble also fell on the city, so it's an existential problem that needs to be stopped immediately.

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 15 дней назад +1

      @@TheSuperRatt Aren't Dwarves, like, the _least_ in-touch-with-spirits race in all of Arda?
      Not to poke a hole in Swiss Cheese or anything.

    • @Abefroman-lq3md
      @Abefroman-lq3md 14 дней назад

      @@TheSuperRatt. It’s a pile
      Of 💩

  • @enhancedcalm
    @enhancedcalm 8 дней назад

    300 years ---- 16 rings made...dayum had no idea Sauron was playing the long game to that extent.

  • @SeiaiGaming
    @SeiaiGaming 14 дней назад +1

    I wonder how the story would have went, if Sauron hadnt created the rings at all and kept his power to himself. Can you maybe do a video on that?

  • @JohnDoe-jc5kt
    @JohnDoe-jc5kt 15 дней назад +7

    Here's what I need to know. Were the rings for the dwarves and men able to fit magically? Also, if they didn't fit, do you think after they were gifted, the recipients were just awkwardly trying to fit the rings to one of their fingers?

    • @clangauss4155
      @clangauss4155 15 дней назад +4

      Especially if they were once intended for elves and not resized before instead being shared with the much stouter dwarven fingers, that seems like a reasonable power for them to have. Not to mention, the One Ring absolutely had the ability to change its size to accomplish its needs.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 15 дней назад +8

      Yes, Sauron undoubtedly gave them all that power.
      Imagine the diplomatic shitstorm that would ensue if he tried to give every dwarf lord a ring, and then had to tell some that they could not wear their because they had too big hands.
      The other dwarfs would feel insulted for having smol hands, and take their rings off - merely to claim that, no, they had big fingers too!
      Quite a bad domination tool, if the whole plan could be thwarted by finger measuring contests.....

    • @tomnaumann2104
      @tomnaumann2104 15 дней назад +4

      Yes, the One ring shifted sizes to fall off finger when it willed, for instance. Bilbo (or was it Frodo?) put it on a necklace to keep it reliably on himself. It is quite reasonable the other rings did the same.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 15 дней назад +7

    Dwarves with rings? Are we sure this isn’t Wagners ring cycle?

  • @steveberry4583
    @steveberry4583 15 дней назад +1

    Thank you Robert!

  • @GG3695
    @GG3695 15 дней назад

    Nice to hear you again, Robert.
    Always a pleasure.

  • @PtolemyJones
    @PtolemyJones 15 дней назад +14

    The more I learn about the lore of Tolkien, the more I feel like Sauron was an incompetent buffoon.

    • @thecrispymaster
      @thecrispymaster 15 дней назад +6

      How he didn't think the dwarves wouldn't immediately see through the "Oh if you just give me this one feeble little ring you'll get those much better rings back, honest!"
      😂😂😂

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 15 дней назад +7

      The whole ring gambit was a disaster for Sauron. He gained 9 powerful servants but the Ring failed to control the elves, dwarves, or the most powerful human kingdom. The Ring increased his own powers but still not enough to crush the elves or put up a decent fight against the Númenóreans. I don't think he even needed it to corrupt Ar-Pharazôn since he was only telling him what he wanted to hear. And finally after being out of his possession far far longer than it had in his possession, it was destroyed and he with it.

    • @ethancoster1324
      @ethancoster1324 15 дней назад

      ​@@dlxmarksTolkien implies, I think, that in some letters that Sauron did indeed have the ring in Numenor.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 15 дней назад +2

      @@ethancoster1324 Tolkien confirmed that Sauron had the Ring in Numenor even though _The Silmarilion_ states that he "took up again his great Ring in Barad-dûr" after the Downfall. My point was that he didn't need it to control Pharazôn because the king was already primed to go down that path.

    • @ethancoster1324
      @ethancoster1324 15 дней назад

      @@dlxmarks Indeed, but it certainly would've helped.

  • @MaddelynKayKay
    @MaddelynKayKay 15 дней назад

    I so much enjoy your videos. Your in depth look into the lore, your insight and especially your delivery. Always a great job!

  • @TheTrueBobDole
    @TheTrueBobDole 13 дней назад +1

    The 7 rings just made dwarves greedier. Since, dwarves are naturally resilient to powers. There are theories that Thorins father and grandfather were influenced by one of the 7 rings. His grandfather was notoriously greedy and, when Gandalf found him, his father's mind was shattered. It's plausible that a dwarven ring could have caused this.

  • @darnokx9277
    @darnokx9277 3 дня назад +1

    If I could have one wish about this video, it would be using the proper LotR Galadriel picture, not that fake Amazon one.

  • @lukasr.5839
    @lukasr.5839 14 дней назад +3

    What I don't get: If the three Elven Rings were not made by Sauron: #1 How did he even know they existed? #2 How could the One Ring affect them? Does it bind all rings in existence to his will? (Then why only these 19?) #3 If these three Elven Rings were made without Saurons participation, why is the destruction of the One Ring their undoing? - Thanks for any explanation!

    • @Draconightfury
      @Draconightfury 11 дней назад +2

      They were made by Celibrimbor using the technique he learned from Sauron, so he still had part in their creation in that way.. Sauron had power over all of the Rings of Power, not just any ring anywhere.
      Even being made separately, it was with knowledge learned from Sauron.

    • @lukasr.5839
      @lukasr.5839 11 дней назад

      @@Draconightfury Thanks!

  • @nachoman408
    @nachoman408 3 часа назад

    Not being a purist, im enjoying how the show is.doing things (now knowing this)

  • @891Henry
    @891Henry 11 дней назад

    I remember the first time I read the LOTR nearly 50 years ago. I was surprised then that the Messenger would tell the dwarves to find the ring. The dark lord could have no idea how the one ring would effect a dwarf who chose to put it on. Even though the 7 were less effective than expected, the one ring was a different kettle of fish. I still find it an odd thing for him to have done.

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 15 дней назад +4

    Rock and Stone!

    • @MrBox009
      @MrBox009 15 дней назад +1

      ROCK AND ROLLIN' STONE

    • @Dack3ry
      @Dack3ry 14 дней назад +1

      If you don’t rock and stone, you ain’t comin home

  • @JamaicaWhiteMan
    @JamaicaWhiteMan 15 дней назад +3

    4:00 So that's what happened to Doogie Howser. What's he doing with the dwarf?

  • @valkoharja
    @valkoharja 10 дней назад

    I liked this video a lot. Great visuals.

  • @WolfRamAndHart
    @WolfRamAndHart 13 дней назад

    A treasure trove of info. THanks!

  • @steven7936
    @steven7936 12 дней назад

    So Gimli should have been the ring bearer. He was the only one at the council that went out of his way to try and destroy it.

  • @arvidj8918
    @arvidj8918 15 дней назад +3

    So glad to see you are still posting videos. More and more AI-generated content keep showing up in my timeline :(

  • @factusnonverbus
    @factusnonverbus 14 дней назад +1

    The effect or non-effects of the Rings on various species or characters is fascinating. One wonders what effect a ring might have had on an Ent? We see the One Ring could ensnare even Maia, and Gandalf shows the 3 were at least usable by them. But Bombadil, who predates the Maiar is not affected. The Barrow-wight, a servant of Morgoth does not even bother to take the One Ring from Frodo. Gollum believes the One Ring won't interest Shelob and she'll leave it after consuming Frodo (or would she have consumed it like her Mother did with all Feanor's gems?). Dragons consumed the Rings when they got ahold of them, which is unusual since they mostly like to sit and look at their treasures, so it had some pull on them.
    I think it comes back to the idea that the Rings were designed/made by a Maiar targeting Elves. Humans are the Arda weaker siblings of Elves so are even more prone, but other creatures and species are less so or not so.

  • @garycook5071
    @garycook5071 13 дней назад +1

    I wonder whether the desire for gold and mithril was increased by Durin's ring and caused them to dig too deep and awake the Balrog?

  • @rtbinc2273
    @rtbinc2273 14 дней назад +1

    I always wondered if the Dwarf rings summoned the dragons, or at least the dragons could sense the rings and find them.

  • @mgarbarz
    @mgarbarz 14 дней назад +1

    just a quick question that I'm unsure if you've answered, why did the three elven rings made before the others and without Sauron's aid lose power when The One was destroyed? Wouldn't they have remained the same?

  • @heaslyben
    @heaslyben 15 дней назад +2

    Sauron had a cunning plan, sir, wut cannot fail...

  • @MrRjhyt
    @MrRjhyt 15 дней назад +1

    I wonder if Sauron's late bargain with the recovered rings was inspired by the folly of Thorin, craving the Arkenstone and their attachment to historic artefacts of significance. Knowing their resilience to dark rings, they wouldn't fall under the temptation of the One, should they recover it...
    Besides, they might be lesser now...

  • @danielmiller1942
    @danielmiller1942 15 дней назад +2

    Maybe you can do a video on the travels of the One Ring

  • @GuRx13
    @GuRx13 14 дней назад +1

    I know you probably are already but you should do a video on Celebrimbor.

  • @RamblesBrambles
    @RamblesBrambles 15 дней назад +2

    Stiff beards! Weve all been there before..am i right lads!

  • @DEVUNK88
    @DEVUNK88 11 дней назад

    even if the dwarves were not under sauron's influence they had no desire to help the rest of middle earth fight sauron...which is nearly as effective

  • @matthewcopley7679
    @matthewcopley7679 15 дней назад +1

    In BfME 2, The Dragonlord, Drogoth, wears a ring on a chain around his neck.....
    I have no idea if BfME 2, is cannon.

  • @Debba521
    @Debba521 15 дней назад +1

    Well done! What always puzzled me though, was how the ring was taken from Thrain, but he managed to hold onto the map and key. Seems odd his tormenters would allow him to keep such things. And if not, how was Thrain able to hide them and not the ring?

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 15 дней назад +1

      I thought that at the time, Thráin looked like a vagabond with ragged possessions not worth stealing. Even Gandalf thought "he might have been a messenger caught as he fled, or even a thief trapped by a greater thief." Sauron detected the ring and after he seized it, didn't care who the dwarf was or what random odds and ends he had.

    • @dlxmarks
      @dlxmarks 15 дней назад +2

      @@markvictor8776 I sure hope Gandalf didn't see him pull them out of there. 😱

  • @JohnBerndt-mt3jl
    @JohnBerndt-mt3jl 13 дней назад

    I think Sauron would give the 3 rings to 3 more men. He knew it worked on them and he could always use 3 more mind controlled slaves.

  • @Redbrack
    @Redbrack 15 дней назад +1

    I like how Sauron creates a larger or smaller number of rings depending on the size and strength of the race

    • @timothyheimbach3260
      @timothyheimbach3260 15 дней назад

      Except that wasn't really his plan, it just kinda worked it that way.

    • @snufkinsnufkin2528
      @snufkinsnufkin2528 15 дней назад

      he doesn't, he creates all of them to give to the elves but they refuse so he just gives them to them

  • @ValueNetwork
    @ValueNetwork 15 дней назад +1

    Saurons big failure with giving the Dwarf lords rings is he facilitated the greed of dwarfs that were already mining their lands. He basically gave people who were already digging a reason to ignore the outside world and a lust to continue digging. But We know that Dwarfs can fight and can be great warriors if they end up in that role, so Saurons plan wasn’t misguided, he just made 1 fatal flaw with the Rings recipients. If he had given his rings to weaker Dwarfs: lesser members of houses or heirs to thrones who might be tempted by the ring into claiming the riches of a Dwarf lord, I think he would’ve had better results more comparable to the mortal men and created some actual Dwarf servants.
    In fact his attempt to give all 3 surviving rings to the Dwarfs of the Lonely mountain might’ve been him realising his second age oversight and correcting it. Instead of giving 3 rings to 3 different houses he offers 3 rings to 1 relatively weak faction, possibly hoping that they would fight in a civil war to claim those rings, allowing Sauron to enslave the victor who won the rings.

  • @WhisperingWisp357
    @WhisperingWisp357 10 дней назад

    I think a serious consideration has to be made that the dwarves were not part of the original songs. Morgoth did not have any hand in creating them, but their body was still crafted from Arda Marred. Their spirit however was developed outside of the song, so that part of them was not able to be swayed by the rings as they relied on Morgoth's Ring and his influence. The rings affected their base desires of worldly things, but it could not dominate their spirit like humans or potentially elves.

  • @Mo.Jo.MTB_101
    @Mo.Jo.MTB_101 7 дней назад

    Hi thanks for another really amazing video!!! Apart from the fact that your videos are wonderfully detailed and in depth I have to say I really like your voice!!! It's soothing!!! And when it comes to the question of the dwarfs not turning into wraiths I think it has to do with the intend of Aule when he created them. I'm not 100% sure (and please correct me if I''m wrong (and I lend my copy of the Silmarilion to a friend)) but I think he created them in a way so they'd be able to resist the corruption of melkor which I think is the reason why the rings did not corrupt them like they did the nine... Thanks again for your video greatings Mo

  • @jackschwartz1783
    @jackschwartz1783 9 дней назад

    One thing I considered was that Humans and Elves were created by Aule, the dwarves were not.

    • @jackschwartz1783
      @jackschwartz1783 9 дней назад

      My bad. Illuvatar created Elves n Man. Aule created the Dwarves.

  • @mandowarrior123
    @mandowarrior123 15 дней назад +3

    I think it's unfair to say we know dragonfire wouldn't be able to destroy the one ring per se, but its likely the ring could control any dragon your brought it near and seems riskier even than mordor. And after that to find out it wasn't enough-
    It was proof against anything available, and the fires that forged it is a near certainty- and even if it didn't work, it's beyond mortal, even mayar reach.

    • @knines4280
      @knines4280 14 дней назад

      Darn.
      Gandalf tells Frodo, that 'Not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the one ring, the ruling ring, for that was made by Sauron himself .'.
      I thought that there just weren't any dragons left w/hot enough flame.(& There wasn't),.
      But I went and read it verbatim........
      Darn.🫤

    • @DanPoffenbarger
      @DanPoffenbarger 14 дней назад

      @@knines4280 Gandalf says " ... nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring..." FOTR: The Shadow Of The Past

    • @knines4280
      @knines4280 13 дней назад

      @@DanPoffenbarger yes, I kind of said that.
      Even Quoted him.
      You might have noticed.
      Thanks for having my back though.,...

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 12 дней назад

    Celebrimbor and his fellow Elven smiths didn't just make those 16 Rings of power, @InDeepGeek , they made literally dozens of lesser rings before hand as they learned and mastered the craft of making magic rings, these lesser rings were test-articles/proof of principle projects.

  • @michaelfoley4247
    @michaelfoley4247 15 дней назад +1

    I finished reading Lotr so I can finally start watching again

  • @GroppeljohannKlotenkempe-vr6oh
    @GroppeljohannKlotenkempe-vr6oh 15 дней назад

    Always a pleasure to listen to your insights 👍🏻

  • @gwensmith7439
    @gwensmith7439 15 дней назад +1

    I have a cunning plan - Sauron 🤝 Baldrick

  • @mikolajtrzeciecki1188
    @mikolajtrzeciecki1188 12 дней назад

    I still do not understand why Sauron collected the dwarven rings after he had given them out.

  • @kipper1668
    @kipper1668 15 дней назад +1

    So, the illustrations of these rings used throughout the video, are they based on any Tolkien-sourced illustrations or descriptions or are they complete fan works? Ever since learning that not all the rings of power looked like the one ring we've been really interested in seeing what they all look like

  • @conraddominguez-urban5215
    @conraddominguez-urban5215 13 дней назад

    Looking at what has been happening in modern times here, is it such a stretch to think Tolkien INTENDED the power in the seven rings to be one to play on and amplify the love of gems and noble metals, as well as latent or low level avarice in the Dwarven Lords?

  • @AndyHoward
    @AndyHoward 13 дней назад

    according to CPGrey on his video about the rings given to the dwarves: The dwarves had clockwork brains and weren't able to be controlled by Ausron

  • @frederickbousquet6019
    @frederickbousquet6019 15 дней назад +1

    On this deep we dive in channel

  • @TheSaltyAdmiral
    @TheSaltyAdmiral 13 дней назад +1

    If all 7 dwarves got a ring, it's kind of rotten that Snow White didn't get one.

  • @captainmaim
    @captainmaim 2 дня назад

    Sauron tried to toss the Dwarfs...

  • @pvtillman
    @pvtillman 14 дней назад

    I believe the attraction of dragons is the key. If the dragon eats the dwarf ring then Sauron might control the dragon. Typically a dragon might only add a ring to its hoard, but a dwarf wearing a ring is like bait and a hook.

  • @devinklassen9769
    @devinklassen9769 11 дней назад

    Perhaps because the dwarves were not clearly in the Music of Ainur, (although we must assume they were hidden in there partially for Aule would have all things originate in Eru) but perhaps because the existence of the dwarves was occluded and that Sauron may have already defected to Morgoth by the time Aule fashioned the original 7 dwarves. Well, basically Sauron's knowledge of the hearts and desires of dwarves is that much more distant they are more of an enigma to him and so the rings he designed for the dwarves were imperfect for he did not know his prey as well as his arrogance would let him think. And so, the rings still evil increased their avarice but did far less than what Sauron may have hoped.

  • @antonellamR2D2
    @antonellamR2D2 15 дней назад

    Thanks for your essays

  • @MrNicoJac
    @MrNicoJac 15 дней назад +5

    6:25 Huh?
    Dragon fire _would_ have been enough to destroy the One Ring too, no?
    I seem to recall reading, long ago, that the problem was that Smaug had been slain, and no other dragons were known at the time 🤔
    (also, how exactly you'd get a dragon to burn it, instead of claim it for itself or just barter it to Sauron for untold wealth, is problematic - presumably you'd need a Burglar to steal item after item from its hoard, and when the dragon is _truly_ miffed beyond reasoning, to take off the One and sacrifice themself in a blaze of glory.... Good luck finding someone willing to be the ringbearer for _that_ plan)

    • @Kleyguerth
      @Kleyguerth 15 дней назад +4

      "It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the Rings of Power, but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough; nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring, the Ruling Ring, for that was made by Sauron himself."

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 15 дней назад

      @@Kleyguerth
      Thank you, dear captain 🥹🫡

  • @YouTellemFrosk
    @YouTellemFrosk 12 дней назад

    Can I ask a question? Were the Nazgûl in possession of their rings during the main events? If not when did Sauron take them and what did he do with the rings he recaptured?
    Thanks

  • @austinflynn5374
    @austinflynn5374 14 дней назад

    “Seven rings in hand speed through nights with feet in sand
    Seven rings in hand wonders all under command (c'mon!)
    Seven rings in hand wild with just one single hand
    Seven rings in hand arrowed hearts catch fire now”
    Holy crap… It all makes sense…

  • @jeffreysalzman1497
    @jeffreysalzman1497 15 дней назад

    I love the zinger conclusions of these videos.

  • @oneeyedkingdb4dty246
    @oneeyedkingdb4dty246 15 дней назад

    I LOVE YOUR VOICE!!!

  • @ax1s_meruem
    @ax1s_meruem 14 дней назад

    more videos on the same story? been watching the whole playlist, binged around 30 or so videos, now thinking i might never catch up

  • @thylange
    @thylange 13 дней назад

    The story of Celebrimbor giving a ring of power to the dwarves is probably not true. Gandalf talks about owners of ROP all lies about the aquisition in order to increase their claim on the ring. Also they did not want to admit that they were fooled by Sauron.
    The kings of Moria continued to use their ring even after Saurons plan was laid bare!

  • @Corleone1891
    @Corleone1891 15 дней назад

    Fantastic info!

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 13 дней назад

    Why did the one ring not turn Sauron invisible?
    And why is invisibility something that happens to anyone putting it on, as opposed to say, getting taller, or having more success with the ladies?

  • @allones3078
    @allones3078 6 дней назад

    It makes you ask if the four ring destroyed was because they knew what they were as they were made by Morgth

  • @billyponsonby
    @billyponsonby День назад

    Interesting