Awesome Affordable Cars For Young People: Renault Clio 182 RS
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If you want a slice of hot hatch ownership but can’t afford a new Fiesta ST (the best small hot hatch on sale today), then take a look at the next best thing: the awesome and affordable Renault Clio 182 RS!
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No 17 year old in Britain could afford the insurance on either of these cars...
Scott Sherman Yeah, when they say young they mean mid 20s.
If you could even get a quote on that Clio you'd be looking at 5K+ on insurance. And there's a fair chance you wouldn't even get a quote to begin with.
I brought a 172 cup when I was younger. had to wait until I was 21 to insure it because it was a hot hatch. cost me £1200 to insure. that was 11 years ago.
Scott Sherman I don't think any 17 year old could afford the insurance to any vehicle these days!
Cost me over £800 to insure a 208 gti and I'm 32 now.
Probably costs a 17 year old 2k to insure a 1 litre corsa these days
Buying the car isn't the issue. It's running and insuring it.
Sam Grattan so true
That's what affordability is about. It would be missleading refering to something as the cheapest v12 to own just by refering to the price tag. =)
Sam Grattan what car was it?
Sam Grattan Damn right. I'm being quoted at £18,000 for my 1.8 Celica SR.
I'm not 100 percent sure with that I'm 20 and have myself a st200 it's not badly priced for insurance my only issue is that if you to have the fun with it you have to pay the price with fuel what sucks but way worth it
Young people in our eyes: 17-21
Young people in CT's eyes: 25-30
Really? I know plenty of people who had RenaultSport Clios at around 20-22.
Yes, these guys just seem to think that most car drivers are around 25-30 years old for some reason and completely disregard 17-21 year old drivers who can't afford anything good.
Lispy Joe I don't even care about anything good, I just want some wheels for freedom
I'm 18 and I just want a destroyed Renault 5...
do whatever. But please don't breed
if you are under 21 and you can afford insurance on either one of these cars, I would like to buy my drugs from you!
John Kyon you can buy from me bro
Agreed. I just bought a normal fiesta zetec and the insurance was a couple grand. Dread to think what a st would be
U can buy em 😂
I had a Clio 182 when I was 20, wasn’t too pricey.. now I have a Subaru WRX spec c age 23 that’s even cheaper
Im 18, just bought 2019 fiesta st line 125ps and insurance is 1.6k which isn't too bad!
Personally, the Clio is by far the car I want, as well as being the one I can afford. Sure, the fiesta ST is a fantastic car, and I would say that it's probably the best hot hatch available currently. But the Clio is just so light and solid, and I would say it's one of, if not the, best hot hatch ever built. Also, the guy from Evo magazine, who has a Zonda, an Integrale Turbo, and an F-Type project 7, amongst many others, also says that his Clio 182 Trophy is the best hot hatch ever made, so I figure he's a good guy to second the opinion of
fawncashew it's also faster on a proper road.
fawncashew My dads dad had one of those race clios, not the trophy but I believe it was a Clio Rally one (it isn't road legal but it was permitted to drive on the road) it was a V6 and the engine was behind you, there was only two seats. It's beautiful car
The Pixel Gamer the clio v6, not much faster than a 182 but that was a crazy crazy car
fawncashew go for it mate I've got one its a lot of fun
i have the 172 phase 2, which is so great holy hell. Do yourself a favour and grab one
Affordable? It's 2l. The insurance is ridiculous.
Ben Brewer here is 200€ per year for 2l
Aleksandar Arsenović it'd be £3000 for me in the UK
Damn
Ditto here in Belgium. Unaffordable in Belgium when you're under 30 in both insurance and consumption.
devilskullBEL You cant complain, you guys have Spa.
If they make a diesel version of the Focus ST, then it would be called Ford Focus STD...
that's existed for a while now
lol fk that.... a diesel...?? that would take hours to get to 60 mph...... LOL
YURI 8.3 seconds, 182 BHP, 67 MPG. Not a bad car.
Scottish NAT And 250+ lb-ft!!
Much like the Subaru WRX "STI"?
I wish i got a ST instead of a dart... Fucking idiot me...
Elk Kapaska hell is a dart?
Dodge dart
^^^ is correct.
what year
what year?
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I’ve only got 1 year NCB and insurance for both these cars is about £1K
The notification came up so late
latuba247 such bs
hehe , i was first , just randomly decided to refresh the page at 19:59
latuba247 same
I KNOW RIGHT
I got 4th comment, looks like I won a snapback :D
No no you have gotten this wrong, the car I want is the 182
The Runt Project me too
If there's one thing I love it's a good French hot hatch!
The Runt Project ohyeah, I had the chance to drive with a Megane RS Trophy...too bad only as a passenger :D but man this car was amazing, it could keep up with an AMG (not on the straight tho :D)
Fantastic car, my mate owns a Miami blue 1.9 205 GTI and it is a bloody deathtrap, but in a good way haha
The Runt Project French cars ftw :D time to kick some Germans haha
Any M9's on here find it ironic how he put a fiesta and a Nandos together in a review, should have been a corsa VXR, but I guess he couldn't get hold of one as they're all sat in a McDonald's car park picking up underage girls
M9
Trust me the UK is not a bad place for car guys. Take Denmark: that Fiesta St would cost nearly 30 grand (pounds)!!! and that is actually realy cheap for a performance car, cars like a Miata/mx5 is nearly 60.000
Laurits Boe Sørensen True but it costs 22k here. The average person pays 10k here. See the issue?
Ixor pays 10k for what?
Laurits Boe Sørensen Or Finland where you get fined endlessy for speeding
TheStuntdude12 probably because you are driving to quickly XD
Well singapore is the worst in the world and im in malaysia with the 2nd highest car tax below singapore
*eats KFC off of hammer*
This is the content i subscribed for.
I've had a 172 for over two years and it has been a joy owning it. Sometimes I'll even find an excuse to just drive it. Also, contrary to belief it has been solid and super reliable. Even at 117k the F4R engine pulls so well all the way up to 7.2k rpm which is basically a VTEC but with more torque, they are used several race cars for a reason. I really can't see myself ever selling it, it's just a brilliant little car.
You can buy 11 standard clio182 for the price of the fiesta!
Az Lean lol. My ST200 has done around 20 trackdays and about 70 laps of the ring without a single fault. Can’t see a clio doing that.
@Az Lean the clio is fast too boi
3 minutes, I think I got lucky, no fu**** 820+ comments 😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣
zibby Jdm Same lol
Affordable? What world do you live in?😂 The insurance alone would make me bankrupt
It does annoy me when super posh boys say 'oh this hideously high insurance grouped car is so affordable to buy and insure' - compared to a new Lamborghini?!
22 grand for Ford pfft I'd rather get a second hand impresario sti second hand for about 6 grand
Dale Jenking Have fun with your totally rusted away and beaten to death 6k STi. Dont act like a fanboy, there are many better cars and that comes from an ex-owner ;)
Dale Jenking I agree buying a new car is a mugs game. For £22,000 you could have so many better cars than that heap of shit ford
why fanboy? its a solid hot hatch for an affordable price. sure some competitors are better in some aspects, but they are also worse in some aspects. just accept the car for what it is: good.
Dale Jenking fiesta has slowly become the new corsa fuck boy car I've driven a mk7 zetec s it was horrible, slow, no driver feedback and you literally have to keep looking at the rpm gauge because you can't hear the engine to know when to shift absolutely horrible car lol
Dankio Memeio you're not wrong either, 9/10 ST fiestas I see are driven by kids who think they're ken block
My generation is broke af that we can’t even afford a decent flat in any big city, bearing in mind many of us earn only the minimum wage. We will be 45 by the time we can start our mortgage for a rat hole’s flat in the suburb, with a reasonably safe car (mainly because of the insurance), while trying to pay off our student loans.
Doubt
Your living the dream then 😂
great video. but could you do one looking at sub £2000 cars?
soooo piles of scrap metal
No, 2000 cars a best cars
Can pick up a clio for around £1500
EP3.. say no more
Josh Dowdy this ep3 is so much better, the clio has quite a bit of maintainance . The ep3 only needs a valve clearance check every 20k or so and will go on forever
Who else reckons ford should make a fiesta rs?
Corzaa01 They are.
Tak Builds lmao they never were and never will, would blow the focus at out the water
@@dylanwakley2553 They did back in the 1990s, the Fiesta RS Turbo. It would have been an ST if, Ford "ST" badged cars existed in the 90s...
@@LoogiBalloogi I mean that was the escort but ok...
@@LoogiBalloogi oh wait my bad, they did make one, I’ve never seen that before
4:38 i am so uncomfortable
i know for shore that if he gets a clio 182/172 lot off people gonna whine. mostly honda owners. and or renault haters who dont know shit about cars or what relaibilty is. CAUSE CLIO RS ARE RELIABLE!
What you want: ST
What you get: ST Line
Or a mk6 st
8zjhz mtb insurance
St line is still cheaper
£6000 Jesus, I'm on my first car and it cost me £1075
Callum Penman what car is it?
radovan jovovic Suzuki swift
Callum Penman I bought fiat punto for similar price
Hussain Sajid Question 1: why did u buy a fiat?
Question 2: is that fiat still running or is it lying in a scrap yard or a mechanics workshop where it was inevitably going to be staying for the rest of its life?
Callum Penman the car is 10 years old now, the milage is above 110000 and it is running just fine. the only problem I had was the heater blower broke down and I had to replace it. it only cost me about £30. it's a quite reliable car actually.
There better be a van in this list. They're perfect for young people, you can get a mattress in the back, go road tripping, put 15 mates in the back, the list is endless...
Sounds like a predator thing
Tf kind of young person wants a van the bullying would be endless
@@connorhughes26 ah yes let’s not do something in life because you’d get bullied or because people wouldn’t like it. people would get no where in life.
Shit i'm late
Wanna buy those stickers at least
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Hjalpmovie hi!
Hjalpmovie oi m8 we're everyFUGGINwhere :DDDD
What? The notification came soo late. WTF RUclips???
Dree Play saaame youtube is dying
Looks like we're not getting snap backs or stickers
I once owned a Clio 172 Cup and did 125k miles from new in it including many many trackdays. In my Fiesta ST I've just hit 58k miles from new.
If I had both outside right now I'd still take the Fiesta every single day of the week. On road and track it has all the Clio's good points and none of the bad.
The only thing the ST lacks is the Clio's razor sharp throttle response.
Nice video...keep up the good work!
MarkCup70 love a true opinion. Not just because 1 has 1 . U had both and I watch your vids st anyday. Especially when nine is stage 2 . 😃
Cant stand Fiesta,s main reason is the unreliable engines, on a track my mates one had the head gasket let go on a top speed run , where as doing that in a clio is near impossible, would still take a Type R over all of them though.
lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have a 1.2 Clio and I dream of owning a 182 1 day 😂😂😂
Same for me :)
You made it?
"affordable", for someone who's full time employed maybe, not for 17/18yr olds 😂😭
The Clio 182 is great but the insurance costs are something else!
Niall Are you sure? Im 19, took out a quote, came to £150 a month...that was with a claim as well!
lmao I thought I live in country where insurance is worst now I see that we are good we pay 150€ per year
Damn
Would be 1300€ year in my country widoud iodsausdioa usdaiou
I can't even get one in the US.
even those cars are too wide and overweight for allot of our small b-roads, thanks to modern engineering excellence the 'small' fiesta hatchback weighs more than my volvo estate and it wider... smh, when my volvo gets the 2jz treatment it will thrash these pieces of shite!
ayyy nice build man! :D My dad's rx7 with the 13b engine and twin turbos is not cutting it anymore, he is thinking of going for the 1jz or 2jz
Are you telling me your Volvo estate weighs less than 1100KG? that is amazing!
Jamie Knight wow that sounds like an aweosme idea, but the 2jz weighs waayy more than a rotatory engine, so you may need need to put some beef and granite in the suspension
Josh Briggs yeah that is already taken care of :) BC Racing Coil-overs all around, we like the rotary :D
Josh Briggs your volvo weigh less then 1.3 tonnes does it thats impressive, have you taken off the doors or something?
Or you can just buy a used volvo for 2000 dollars.
Safety is number one priority.
a 940 2.3 turbo with a boost controller and an 850 turbo more like!
i prefer a 740 sedan turbo with leather seats.
p12:an Jacob MLG Noscoper Ayy Crazy Russian Hacker
Volvo 850 would be my choice. Nice 5 cylinder engine (turbo even better) and a big trunk where you can sleep in if necessary :D
a 940 or 740 would be better for me because of rwd! an 850r would be nice though
Amazing, I come from the generation that adored Sierra cosworths... Now we're seeing fiesta's that are practically as quick right out the factory
I will take a Civic Type R EP3 please
Was thinking the same thing :>
Yeah but Type R is at least 2,5-3 times more expensive then 182 RS (at least here in Poland)
Too popular in my opinion
put them on the line and the clio walks away from the ep3
Clio: 0-100 kph 7.1 sec
Ep3: 0-100 kph 6.8 sec
who walks from who?
Edit*
Quarter mile 15.2 s @ 97 mph - Ep3
Quarter mile 15.5 s @ 95 mph - Clio 182
inb4 clio prices go through the fuckin roof
I'm so glad I live in the states. Miles and miles of back roads without those huge hedges blocking your view. I also drive a 400 hp 335i that I bought and can afford to run entirely by myself at 19. No way I could have it in the UK.
Yeah, but protectionism prevents you from owning a 2006 TVR Tuscan S. ^^
who the fuck wants that when you could get an 03 cobra etc
Tell them about you should come to the Texas hill country and drive
Luna Tuna Man U very lucky
I've sort of ended up with a e46 2ltr 2001 at 19, can't use it as a daily because the insurance is 11,000
Why not Honda Type R EP3 instead of the renault ?
Shoe Gun AFFORDABLE! Don't forget
Good shout. And they are becoming affordable now. Better reliability than the French. But I would still buy a 182 over the others.
***** well that is good
As if insuring a hot hatch isn't bad enough already, the type r is most expensive of them all.
111 111 Typical Civic boy racers. Taking over from the Corsa kids
when you live in the United States and they don't sell Renaults here so your shit out of luck
Believe me... you don't want a Renault in your garage (I'm from Mexico). They're faulty and hard to get parts.
Angel GHR thanks for the tip man
Angel GHR well, if you live in Europe, it's not hard to get parts but the're still bad cars in my opinion.
Yes Excatly.
I Dont Like Renaults. In EU There are so much better cars made. so many. like bmw, audi, mercedes benz, VW And volvos. There are so many that i cant even name like 1/4 of them.
Instead of you, I love Renault and I had two of them: a 2004 Grand Scenic some years ago and now a RWD Twingo III. They are very good, reliable and robust.
I've had my 182 for over 2 years now and can confirm it is one awesome car! :-)
Miata is always the Answer.
it's a bitch car
mcgherkinstudios rubbish, I'm 19 and I've just paid £750 for insurance on a uk model 1993 1.6 it's all about your driving history, your postcode and your insurer, I had mine transferred from a shitty diesel and the reason it wasn't much more was because they wanted me to stay because I had been with them since I started driving
thelegend27 you know
mcgherkinstudios buying an import version was your mistake there, obviously going to be more to insure than a British one
mcgherkinstudios oh my bad, I wasn't trying to bash you, I assumed you were using it for road use only!
Should drive the Peugeot 208 GTI by Peugeot sport. Faster and the interior is so much better
crazy thing in 2023 a low milage trophy is worth more than a ST200
suzuki swift sport? it's not fastest but still a pretty good car
Suzuki Alto Works RSZ try getting one of those , fucking mental little cars they are bruv and look sick as anything
It is sure my MZ sport is a joy to drive just whit stainless steel exhaust, racing coilovers, and cold air filter and 7200 rpm. Makes it a pure gokart
carthrottle u guys should make a review about CLIO V6
Oh how times have changed 😂 the 182 Trophy in this video would be going for 10k now
lol my first car was a Toyota yaris. loved that thing. these are the cars I've had so far. I'll put the age next to it too. and i live in the UK.
1. Toyota Yaris - 17 yrs old
2. Renault Clio - 19 yrs old
3. Subaru Impreza WRX STI - 20 Yrs old
4. currently selling the subaru and getting a Toyota Supra. I'm 22 years old.
if i could turn back the clock i would have got a civic type R instead of the Clio.
Keep the Subaru.
I'd say get a supra if it's 2JZ.. If not then I can't see the point
All MK4 Supras are 2JZ? Dont get ur comment
nicee!!!!
bro how lol
its not about the price of the car. its about the engine size. no 17 year old can afford to insure a 2.0L car
also, thanks for putting this on my recommended 3 years late..
Well that’s where you’re wrong. Last year I had a mk1 2 litre focus with insurance that I could afford of my own accord, and now I’ve just bought and insured a Subaru Impreza Turbo 2000 lol
Heh, *Civic type R*
Shit
The biggest deal breaker for me with older cars are the interiors. I can't stand them.
#01DF01Seba Abdur-Rehmaan i had the same issue, but I spent abit of money and got my interior Refabricated.
I cant stand the interiors on new cars, lol.
lobsterbark Lel
Lobsterbark, I'm not a fan of new interiors because of infotainment screens. Imagine how beautiful the new C class interior would be if it didn't look like they glued a 15 year old ipad onto the dash.
#01DF01Seba Abdur-Rehmaan p
I wouldn't call people old enough to afford insurance on these cars young people anymore. The top spec Clio you're on about nobody would let you insure at 18, and the base spec one would start out at about 3 grand.
TheRebel3000 Really? 3000 pounds a year to insure a Clio? That is crazy.
NITROLLATOR Well that's how much it would cost to insure a £450 2003 MG ZR 1.4 at 17 so I'd expect so
TheRebel3000 I got insured in a Clio 182 at 18 for £2000 normal small engine Clio's are cheap to insure
Clio Rs ***exists
Cries in North American.
PSSSH Buy a S2000 over a Renault Alex.....common!!!
Acc0rd79 good car but stock Version is too slow
Viktor B Revs to 9000... who doesn't want that.
@@jdm-cars8044 he wanted two cars that are similar, the Clio RS and the Fiesta ST have around 200 horsepower and they're both hatchbacks
I'd rather have the Clio Rs
This is a classic case of the one you can afford is better than the one you want. Trust me, I’ve had both. That clio is a fizzy little thing - looks great, and weighs literally nothing so gets 50mpg at a steady 65mph
Own a Fiesta ST-3 and simply love it! Awesome handling, simply best smiles per buck for a new car!
I was paying £1630 a year (at the age of 27 and i'd just past my test) for a 2005 VW Polo 1.4 Sport in yellow. Which was (3 years old at the time). So unless there parents are wealthy, young drivers (17-21) would have no chance owning the Fiesta ST to begin with, then theres the insurance. With either of them at (17-21) you're easily looking at £2-3 grand, if not more.
Edit: Just done two separate insurance quotes via GoCompare for both the Fiesta ST and the Clio 182 RS for a 21 year old
Both were set to £500 excess and 6000 miles a year
2016 Fiesta ST worth £19,519 was £2690 a year
2005 Clio 182 RS worth £3,995 was £2470 a year.
Plus it depends on the area you live (im in the Manchester area)
Just goes to show how miss leading the video is.
Huh, I got much better insurance prices when I looked.
At 18 with 1 years no claims the Fiesta was £1800 ish.
And at 22 with 3 years no claims the Clio was £950
But yeah, neither of these cars are affordable for young people.
iDeFecZx as i said, depends on the area as well.
bought a 208 Gti at 19, didn't cost that much to insure and it would smash a fiesta st in a straight line. Nicer interior too. If your 18-21 and have a full time job I see no reason why anyone can't get a decent hot hatch, I tried to stay around the 1.6 mark for insurance but other than that I say go wild, Insurance from 2 years ncb was £900 on the 208 gti and just bought a Abarth 500 which is £750.
Thomas Bradley Yeah the 208's have surprisingly cheap insurance, was that with a box?
iDeFecZx hell no, I wouldn't buy a 208 gti with a box, I might as well not have 230bhp and go and get a 1.2 if i had a box hahaa
So glade that i liver in the U.S that's the best you can do for that kind of money
billy heaton I never liver outside of the us. Best livering in the world.
I owned a Clio 182 and have driven ST's plenty of times. Whether the ST is quicker or not is irrelevant. The Clio shits on the ST for fun factor.
I have same Clio but difference is my clio has just 75 hp. :( It feels slow even u listen Eurobeat in it.
Also u must pay more than 30000 Turkish Liras (7000€} to buy Clio RS 182. Thanks to government taxes.
Jezza i wouldn't say its gov taxes that make second hand cars so expensive in turkey. initial amount paid for brand new purchases are mostly similar, or at least they were before turkish lira devaluated. (thats when you consider cars with small engines, economy cars basically). the thing is, second hand cars are so expensive because in turkey cars dont go down in value as much as they do in europe, especially in the UK. but here the insurance cost is much lower, so if you owned that clio for five years in the UK, and sold it, it would cost you much higher than doing the same here
Abi avrupadaki gibi 2.el arabanın değeri tabi düşmez bizde yeni clio 60000 lira onlarda 10000 euro nasıl düşsün
Arabanın fiyatından çok vergi alıyolar
Sırf o da değil yav, adamlarda mesela araba yedi sekiz senede fiyatının belki beşte birine iniyor. Bizde arabanın değeri daha yüksek insanların gözünde, o yüzden düşmüyor bence. Aynı clioyu on sene sonra 12'ye bırakmaz kimse. Bir de onlarda hele genç sürücülere sigorta arabanın fiyatını geçiyor bazen, o da etkili ucuzlamasında. Hem kendi hem sigortası pahalı olsa millet sikerler der binmez.
People talking about 22k for a fiesta. Yes. Brand new without any sort of dealership discount + its a "limited edition st200". Go to a dealership and you can pick up any colour of the ST BRAND NEW for 16-17k. You can pick up a used ST for like 12k. Even the ST200 which i personally think looks like someones forgot to paint it so wouldn't be my personal choice, you can get for like 19k all day.
*Yeah, I'll definitely pick the 182 if I was Stevie Wonder.*
yeah..... dimwits like you always go for a beemer... please do. I love eating bmws with my Clio 182.
billy bill good luck keeping up with my 335d, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds and AWD traction. You'll have no chance mate.
@@JGreen444 Your heavy BMW wouldn't see where a Clio 182 went on a track.
2 grand? Pff... Over here, there isn't a single one of these for sale.
No Fiesta ST of it's age either. What the hell am I supposed to buy?
ast5515 imagination
Thanks I guess...
ast5515 type R?
try a previous or current gen corsa opc , i know opel is crap somethimes but whatever , then you got the earth rival of the fiesta :P and there are a lot more corsas for sale i think
Where i live there are very cheap ford pumas you can get one for 1200€ 125hp and they handle so well i think it is almost same experience like the clio rs.
Fuck the Clio for a cheap alternative. Get a EP3 Civic Type R. Faster to 60, better looking, much more reliable / well built and you can get a good one for 3k. Yes it's slightly heavier and you have to rev it out for power, but it's just a better choice IMO. Insurance on any of these cars will be a problem for young people though.
Clio 182 is much cheaper and more fun over the rusty E36.
really isnt the e36 faster?
Bmx 121 It's also 300 kilos heavier. Power to weight is where clio catches up with all other cars.
the e36 is junk
Lndrlms Martin Hey, that's one of the not many BMWs that I like.
“Rusty” yeah, if you don’t give a fucking shit about your car. 90’s BMW’s are art.
now i see its a trophy it would leave the st in the dust
I have a Clio 182 in French Racing Blue. It rattles, It's worn, the engine light is on for a number of different problems, the airbag light is on which makes the service light come on, It fairly thirsty, and I absolutely love it to bits. She's called Pixie.
This series is absolutely brilliant. Keep posting guys :)
In good ol straya, both these cars are illegal on your p plates. GG.
i know the fiesta st isn't, neither is the focus st. they changed the laws in 2014 or something, so you can drive turbo cars on your P's, and even some v8s. it all goes down to the power to weight ratio, if your car has below 130 kw per ton you can drive it on your p's. (keep in mind the goverment has banned some cars even though they are below 130kw per ton, such as any wrx past the bugeye.)
Jebidiah Kerman oh yeh I knew it was power to Weight, my bad I assumed they were over it. Fair enough.
Australian government. is soo fucked, even worse than the uk
the laws have changed. they are now p plate legal along with heaps of powerful turbo cars.
Common habitat of the ST is the Halfords or maccies car park lol
Was carthrottle trying to be topgear at one point
Except Renault isn't very reliable and the car looks like shit to me :/
Cowboy Hank yeah I'm the same, French pish is french pish and that's all
Cowboy Hank Not true, those engines (f4r) are very reliable
Spokspok66 compared to anything else on the market (missing out Peugeot, Citroen and fiat) for that price and age it's not really
Callum Penman Fiat? Are you kidding me???
Shadi Ibrahim mmmmm...nope
We all can afford the cars even if it takes 5year but not the FUCKING insurance FUKKKK INSURANCE
When your in the US just buy a C5 corvette, 4th gen camaro, 350z , e36 M3 ,S2000, WRX, Civic SI or a Mustang GT for far less then the ST.
Walker F Performance cars under $20k US? It's likely been through a lot of abuse. Mint condition of the cars on your list are hardly more affordable than the Fiesta ST, on top of not having warranties.
Henry Liao lmao no it's very easy to get any of these cars I listed under 20k with 50,000 miles on them. Maybe not a WRX because they don't drop in value for some reason
Walker F I got a 2010 Camaro SS 6M with 8k miles for $22k. It was in perfect condition (still smelled new) and was babied. There are tons of cars around that price that are super low mileage and good condition. Plus insurance isn't horrible at all. I'm on my family's plan and it costs $150 dollars a month extra to add me and my car to our plan. That insurers me to drive a 2006 Mercedes E350, 2014 Ford Escape, and 2002 Ford F-150 on top of my car. I couldn't imagine the insurance prices in Europe.
The US is with Germany the best place to be a petrolhead
Walker F om
I dare you o take a Opel/Vauxhall Omega B 2.5 or 3.0L and put a turbo on that!
Who the fuck would buy a vauxhall?
Timmy Turner Only about 900k people a year.
Timmy Turner VX220~ that's a Vauxhall worth buying.
You mean Astra?
In 2023 none of us can afford anything because our leaders massively failed us.
I would pick the ep3 civic type r over the clio atleast its reliable
- if it helps you sleep at night
Every wannabe has an ST.. They're not even fast either. Far too many of them try racing my S4 B5 avant, like they even have a chance against 376bhp lol. Prefer the 182 out the two
I have to agree, so many fiesta boy racers thinking they can even beat a bloody 2.0 Rover 45 included with turbo and it was made in 2000... Clio 182 for me, i have seen 182 drivers around my area and they act calm if nothing goes wrong their way but when they accelerate, the stock exhaust sounds nice.
7:40. I was once driving my RenaultSport Clio 172 on a wet B road and noticed something driving enthusiastically in my rear view mirror. It was a very dark morning (4:00 a.m.) and I allowed the car to pass me as I didn't know if it was the police or what. As it was passing I saw it was a BMW M235i. I let it get out of sight and then caught back up with it again! His rear wheel drive car looked twitchy in the wet but my totally standard 2 litre Clio caught up with him easily!
I'd rather have a Civic Type R over the Clio
I just said exactly the same thing. Much better choice.
JustTahmid for the vtec yo?
Yeah but Type R is more expensive than a standard 182 and also try finding one thats not been abused its impossible mate, where as truth be told mainly girls drove the clio back in the day as it looks cute from the front lol, best cheap hot hatch is the 206 GTI 180 thats my opinion
how the hell do the words "big engine" come after saying "2 liters"?!?!
MrWafflez000 alex is from the Uk anything above 1 liter is huge.
MrWafflez000 I think he meant it like "the stock engine is 1.2-1.4, 2.0 is pretty big in comparison." I completely agree with that because with the car being that small, 2 liters is a big engine more fit for a golf or passat than a clio :)
Because it can barely fit under the clio hood.
Ok the difference is the Clio is pure engine power when the fiesta st 200 has a turbo. So erm in my opinion the Clio is better and the old fiesta st mk 6 150 is better as they are both pure engine power
I'd rather have a Grande Punto Supersport
But it's a Renault.
Lukas Johansson So? I have had two Renaults and both are good cars.
I had a 2008 Renault magane estate (steering wheel almost came off)
ill never understand people who like these ugly pieces of shit hatchbacks. incredibly disgusting design. just eww
2 liters =/= big engine.
2 liters are big engines compared to the mickey mouse engines in these days.
Red Phoenix how small do they get? A 1.3 liter rotary is the smallest practical engine i have seen in modern cars. Or Maybe i am used to my 6.0 liter v8.
Jackson Fortune rotary engine is near 4 liters in real life 1.3 was obtained using a "trick"
***** i owned an rx8 and know exactly how it works, but i can't imagine such a puny engine smaller than 2 liters that is a reciprocating piston motor.
The base model Fiesta EcoBoost is a 1.0 with 125bhp
wHo els skipped the ST bullshit :D
ILIASthegreekboy I did. It's very overrated
Just nab a Toyota Starlet easy hoon vehicle and great power ratios with money.
The 182’s especially are getting rarer thus the price increase, but honestly owning a 200 and been in a 182 multiple times.
Unless you wack some good money into most other FWD hatches they can’t do shit on track to a stock Clio. Let alone one with money spent on it!
NEVER BUY A FRENCH CAR!!!!
Harun Tinjić Not a French car, but a Renault yes.
Harun Tinjić absolutely spot-on. My first car was a Renault Clio... It was dreadful I got rid of it within a month of owning it. Kept breaking down. It taught me a very valuable lesson in life.... never buy a French car.
my first car was a Peugeot 207, the materials inside are comic, the plastics are paper thin and keep breaking, it had 68 hp and could go top speed 145 km/h... the slowest, most unreliable and low quality car... i now drive a Audi a3 and it's like driving a combination of Maybach and Rolls Royce after that shitty french car
Harun Tinjić it would have been the exact same in a fiesta or a polo from same year...
I’d rather have a clio /: fiestas are pretty shit tbh
In UK your insurance quote is £8.982.34 monthly £982x1 and 11x£670.18
The ST200 is 212bhp on overboost as it comes with the mountune remap and fords version of the mountune lower air box and second cold air feed.
The standard ST is 197bhp.
I just had the Mountune 215 kit fitted to my ST and its now 215bhp and feels a lot quicker than standard.
The MP215 is worth every penny for anyone out there with a standard ST wondering about upgrading, £800 on the Mountune website and can be fitted easily in 1 hour or less.
Car Throttle is basically One Man Top Gear from 2002-2013
And what about its french competitor : the peugeot 206 RC ?????
trust me, the renault is by far a better car
I just sold my ford ST to sort out my mk4 supra. Hope I made the right choice.
Please, enough with the front wheel drive and 4 cylinders.
What chicken is a Saxo vts, maybe a microwave meal?