Who would of thought the bong would come back from the 70’s , and suite such a great purpose in home brewing ! Lol! As always Mr. Heath great detail , and knowledge enjoy your videos .
Thanks for the Video David, very comprehensive as usual, I have recently moved to a SS Conical fermenter and have been struggling with dry hopping methods and the next thing I know Kegland comes up with this, I have purchased one and now after your video I am ready to try it, thank you.
Great video David, thank you, very informative, and great to have the part lists in the description. I have a couple of these, 1.5" for my grainfather conical (rigged up in the same way but with a 1.5" butterfly valve), and a 2" for my fermzilla, both work great for dryhopping. Going to try using it for inline oxygenation after watching this.
Hey Nick, so the way I do it, is I put an o ring on top of the fermenter, then the butterfly valve, clamp them, then another o ring and the hop bong, then clamp them, chuck a carbonation cap on the side of the hop bong, then I just put the bung and airlock on the top of the hop bong. Bubbles away like normal during fermentation. When I am ready to dry hop, I close the butterfly valve, take the bung out, add the hops, cap the hop bong with a PRV, purge the hop bong, then drop the hops with the butterfly valve. A bit fiddly, but really not that much hassle. I keep it attached throughout the ferment, and have even used it to add biofine (or gelatine) the same way, and then use the grainfather pressure transfer kit on top when cold crashing and then transferring the beer to a keg. Probably don’t even need the grainfather pressure transfer kit, cause I can just hook gas up to the carb cap on the hop bong, but I have it, so I use it, helps me to control the PSI a bit easier.
The inline carbonation seems interesting since I have thought about making uncarbonated (or low) porter for cooking inline carbonation might make a product like that more interesting to drink.
Great overview video David. Perhaps next time you could do real-use video because I found a couple of problems with my hop bong setup. Firstly, you have to fit the new Fermzilla lid and collar 'before' screwing on the carbonation caps. Otherwise you get super frustrated trying to find out why the collar gets stuck when trying to screw it down. Secondly (and sorry Kegland) but their 2" to 2" butterfly valve doesn't work very well in my experience. It's really hard to close to get an air tight seal. In fact, the valves flip over if you push to hard. Luckily I was able to use the small PCO conical lid on the top of the hop bong to get a decent seal for air-tight pressure fermentation. So now, the Kegland butterfly valve joins all my other poor brewing equipment purchases in a big box under the stairs, as I've bought a more industrial 304 stainless steel butterfly clamp from a company on Aliexpress (for just a few euros extra) which works brilliantly. That's the benefit of the standard 2" tri-clamps, you can shop around....
Hi Finn, I did all that as well of course. I wonder if you should return your butterfly valve as it should provide a better fit than you describe. Sounds like you have one that isnt quite right.
I have a large dry hop beer coming up. Is dry hopping via the hop bong your preferred method over dry hopping in the collection container at the bottom of the FermIlla? If I dry hop through the hop bong, do I still need to use the collection container or is it best to let the hops sit on the bottom of the Fermzilla for a few days then open the collection container?
I personally advocate bottom drop hopping where possible. It is the hop oils that interest us and oil rises when added to liquid, so for this reason dry hopping is preferable from the bottom for a nice even spread and amalgamation.
Alright David. I've just put an IPA inbthe keg and forbthe first week tated great. Not I feel it went quite dull. I don't think the problem is oxygenation I do think I've over carbonated it. Would too much co2 destroy the hop flavour of the IPA and if so can de gassing it bring it back? Rather disappointed as I thought I'd made my signature beer. Thanks for any advice if you are able to answer.
Hey Craig, if it is carbonic acid then it can cause taste issues. Try releasing the keg each day for a few days with the regulator turned down to 10-12 PSI. Fingers crossed for you 🍻🍻🍻
@@DavidHeathHomebrew ah! I think you may have covered this in one of your videos before. I pulled the psv and reduced the pressure way down to almost no pour. Will follow you instructions and let you know how I get on. Thanks again.
Great video David Thanks. Would there be much need for a hop bong on the top on a fermentasauras? Are they not both a way of adding oxygen free hops? Also any approx release date for the SS fermzilla? Thanks
Thanks Liam. The hop bong has various uses but if your fermenter has a bottom container then adding hops probably wont be one of them. I am awaiting the SS Fermzilla date myself at present. I hope to have more for the last video of this year which will come in December.
The hop bongs are made from Nylon 12 which is an engineering plastic that is extremely robust and chemical resistant. They are suitable for autoclave use too which spells out very strongly how resistant they are to high pressure and temperature. So certainly over boiling point as autoclaves are used at over 120C. I hope this helps.
I recently bought one of these for use on my Spike+, but have a few questions. I have always used bags for dry hopping, like is seen in all the videos. I've never seen this method used in any of the videos and am wondering if cold crashing will be enough to drop the hop particles to the bottom of the conical? I also have an in-line filter for transfers to a keg. Thanks in advance for the advice.
can be done, just need get some extra stuff for that. 2 inch to 4 inch tri-clover reducer 2 inch tri clamp oblique Y shaped 3 way spliter. you can buy this fitting from aliexpress. ball lock tapping head to 2 inch tri-clover (or you can just use another 2 inch to 4 inch tri-clover reducer to fit existing kegmenter's 4 inch tri-clover ball lock lid). then just install your hop bong stuff on top of the Y splitter.
@@juravi6791 This might give me a way to lower down a Wifi wire-antenna for the Rapt Pill and any wired measuring devices too without cutting through the main body of the fermenter too. Thanks for the info! 😍
Awesome video as usual. Love all the details and the guide to various uses alongside the review, yet all done quickly and without waffle.
Many thanks Alan. Yes these are all vital as I see it.
Who would of thought the bong would come back from the 70’s , and suite such a great purpose in home brewing ! Lol! As always Mr. Heath great detail , and knowledge enjoy your videos .
Haha, very true!! Glad you enjoyed it and cheers!!
Thanks for the Video David, very comprehensive as usual, I have recently moved to a SS Conical fermenter and have been struggling with dry hopping methods and the next thing I know Kegland comes up with this, I have purchased one and now after your video I am ready to try it, thank you.
Great to hear Paul, thank you 🍻🍻🍻
Clever and simple design, kudos Kegland!
For sure 🍻🍻🍻
Great Video!
I just ordered one and am very happy to see the potential use as an inline carbonation/oxygenation device!
Thanks!
Thank you, much appreciated 🍻🍻
Great video David, thank you, very informative, and great to have the part lists in the description. I have a couple of these, 1.5" for my grainfather conical (rigged up in the same way but with a 1.5" butterfly valve), and a 2" for my fermzilla, both work great for dryhopping. Going to try using it for inline oxygenation after watching this.
How do you attach your bubbler as well as the bong with your grainfather fermenter?
Hey Nick, so the way I do it, is I put an o ring on top of the fermenter, then the butterfly valve, clamp them, then another o ring and the hop bong, then clamp them, chuck a carbonation cap on the side of the hop bong, then I just put the bung and airlock on the top of the hop bong. Bubbles away like normal during fermentation. When I am ready to dry hop, I close the butterfly valve, take the bung out, add the hops, cap the hop bong with a PRV, purge the hop bong, then drop the hops with the butterfly valve. A bit fiddly, but really not that much hassle. I keep it attached throughout the ferment, and have even used it to add biofine (or gelatine) the same way, and then use the grainfather pressure transfer kit on top when cold crashing and then transferring the beer to a keg. Probably don’t even need the grainfather pressure transfer kit, cause I can just hook gas up to the carb cap on the hop bong, but I have it, so I use it, helps me to control the PSI a bit easier.
@@melkyriakou1555 Thanks for such an in depth reply. I'm considering my options with fermentation vessels and your answer is very helpful.
Sounds great to me Mel 🍻🍻🍻
This I need to look in to, it sounds almost too good to be true.
Thanks for the INFO.
Thanks for your effort and time spend 👍
Cheers Allan. Sure is a very good multiple use product!
The inline carbonation seems interesting since I have thought about making uncarbonated (or low) porter for cooking inline carbonation might make a product like that more interesting to drink.
Sure is 🍻🍻🍻
Great overview video David. Perhaps next time you could do real-use video because I found a couple of problems with my hop bong setup. Firstly, you have to fit the new Fermzilla lid and collar 'before' screwing on the carbonation caps. Otherwise you get super frustrated trying to find out why the collar gets stuck when trying to screw it down. Secondly (and sorry Kegland) but their 2" to 2" butterfly valve doesn't work very well in my experience. It's really hard to close to get an air tight seal. In fact, the valves flip over if you push to hard. Luckily I was able to use the small PCO conical lid on the top of the hop bong to get a decent seal for air-tight pressure fermentation. So now, the Kegland butterfly valve joins all my other poor brewing equipment purchases in a big box under the stairs, as I've bought a more industrial 304 stainless steel butterfly clamp from a company on Aliexpress (for just a few euros extra) which works brilliantly. That's the benefit of the standard 2" tri-clamps, you can shop around....
Agree with everything you said and I also have bought a stainless steel butterfly valve from Aliexpress :)
@@petersmith3931 😉
Hi Finn, I did all that as well of course. I wonder if you should return your butterfly valve as it should provide a better fit than you describe. Sounds like you have one that isnt quite right.
Stainless steel fermzilla? I'm definitely excited to hear about that!
Me too!! Its going to be an exciting release
They're after me gold!
More like your bronze really 🍻😜
I have a large dry hop beer coming up.
Is dry hopping via the hop bong your preferred method over dry hopping in the collection container at the bottom of the FermIlla?
If I dry hop through the hop bong, do I still need to use the collection container or is it best to let the hops sit on the bottom of the Fermzilla for a few days then open the collection container?
I personally advocate bottom drop hopping where possible. It is the hop oils that interest us and oil rises when added to liquid, so for this reason dry hopping is preferable from the bottom for a nice even spread and amalgamation.
Some great ideas in this videi👍👍👍
Thank you, glad you found it useful :)
Love it , the clover clamps too much . Maybe a screw on cap for the ends . I'm a small bach brewer , maybe make a altogether smaller one
Hi, you get a very good seal with tri clamps. This size will suit all.
Alright David.
I've just put an IPA inbthe keg and forbthe first week tated great. Not I feel it went quite dull. I don't think the problem is oxygenation I do think I've over carbonated it. Would too much co2 destroy the hop flavour of the IPA and if so can de gassing it bring it back?
Rather disappointed as I thought I'd made my signature beer.
Thanks for any advice if you are able to answer.
Hey Craig, if it is carbonic acid then it can cause taste issues. Try releasing the keg each day for a few days with the regulator turned down to 10-12 PSI. Fingers crossed for you 🍻🍻🍻
@@DavidHeathHomebrew ah! I think you may have covered this in one of your videos before. I pulled the psv and reduced the pressure way down to almost no pour. Will follow you instructions and let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.
Yes, I think so. Fingers crossed this will fix it 🍻🍻
Wonderful video like always… 🙌🏼🙌🏼. Thank you David. How about hop missile ? Would it hold the temperature?
Thank you. Yes, it is made from stainless steel making it useful as a hop back or randall.
I meant if it can be used as a hop missile to run hot wort during whirlpool, for example . Is it posible?
In theory yes, though I think you would probably need a different filter for hop pellets to avoid clogging.
Great video David Thanks. Would there be much need for a hop bong on the top on a fermentasauras? Are they not both a way of adding oxygen free hops?
Also any approx release date for the SS fermzilla? Thanks
Thanks Liam. The hop bong has various uses but if your fermenter has a bottom container then adding hops probably wont be one of them. I am awaiting the SS Fermzilla date myself at present. I hope to have more for the last video of this year which will come in December.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Cheers thanks for the info 👉👍
🍻🍻🍻cheers
Excellent as usual thank you :)
Many thanks Paul
Have you tracked down the max temp rating of that plastic?
The hop bongs are made from Nylon 12 which is an engineering plastic that is extremely robust and chemical resistant.
They are suitable for autoclave use too which spells out very strongly how resistant they are to high pressure and temperature.
So certainly over boiling point as autoclaves are used at over 120C. I hope this helps.
I recently bought one of these for use on my Spike+, but have a few questions. I have always used bags for dry hopping, like is seen in all the videos. I've never seen this method used in any of the videos and am wondering if cold crashing will be enough to drop the hop particles to the bottom of the conical? I also have an in-line filter for transfers to a keg. Thanks in advance for the advice.
Hey Scott, yes, cold crashing certainly should do it and naturally its helpful having the transfer exit above trub on a conical fernenter.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Thank you, sir.
Cheers 🍻🍻🍻
Awesome product! Is there a practical way to use this with the Kegmenter?
Not for dry hopping that I know of but a new lid or adapter would solve that.
can be done, just need get some extra stuff for that.
2 inch to 4 inch tri-clover reducer
2 inch tri clamp oblique Y shaped 3 way spliter. you can buy this fitting from aliexpress.
ball lock tapping head to 2 inch tri-clover (or you can just use another 2 inch to 4 inch tri-clover reducer to fit existing kegmenter's 4 inch tri-clover ball lock lid).
then just install your hop bong stuff on top of the Y splitter.
Very nice. I did not see these parts. Cheers for the info 🍻🍻🍻
@@juravi6791 This might give me a way to lower down a Wifi wire-antenna for the Rapt Pill and any wired measuring devices too without cutting through the main body of the fermenter too. Thanks for the info! 😍
🍻🍻🍻
Do you think this product can be used as a blow off system too?
Sure. Though there are cheaper ways 🍻
Thanks, great video! What is the height of the new lid and butterfly valve together? My fridge is too small for keeping the hop bong on all the time.
I would allow for 40cm clearance as a minimum.
Love it how many times did you say hop bong My friend 🍻😂
Haha. Plenty of times 🍻
Any idea how tall it is? I'm trying to figure out if I've to take the fermeneter out of the fermentation chamber to mount it?
I do not have one where I am for the next few days. Hopefully someone else can help faster
Whenever I look at these set ups, I’m reminded of the scene in ‘The Martian’ where Matt Damon is in the airlock & something goes very badly wrong…
I believe that you can have much more faith than that Rachel.
Adding the hop bong to the top of a 55litre fermenter makes it too tall to fit inside a fermentation fridge.
I guess it depends on the fridge but yes, its much height.
Can I buy thus in the USA?
Hi Curt, I suggest contacting Morebeer. Chances are they have them on the way.
What is randall
It allows you to infuse beer whilst serving.