What Caused the Second Sudanese Civil War?

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    Andrew Natsios, Sudan, South Sudan, & Darfur: What Everyone Needs to Know, (2012) amzn.to/3ucfoBI
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    Footnotes
    [1] Natsios, p. 40-1, 47, Johnson, p. 55-7
    [2] Johnson, 39-40
    [3] Johnson, 41-2
    [4] Johnson 59-61, 87-90, Vance, 72, Carter 283-4
    [5] Johnson, 55-7
    [6] Natsios, 53-5
    [7] Natsios, 117-21
    [8] Johnson, 51-3, Natsios, 59-61
    [9] Johnson, 42-3, 51-3
    [10] Natsios, 57-8, Johnson, 43-4
    [11] Natsios, 117-21, Johnson, 44-5
    [12] Johnson 47-51
    [13] Natsios 58-9
    [14] Bush, 91-2
    [15] Johnson, 44-7
    [16] Johnson, 43, 51-3
    [17] Johnson, 53-5
    [18] Johnson 55-7, Natsios, 53-5
    [19] Johnson 53-5, Natsios 55-6, Carter 271
    [20] Sharon 415-7, Johnson, 59-61
    [21] Natsios 59-66
    [22] Johnson, 61-6
    [23] Carter, 205
    [24] Haig, 30, Johnson, 57-8
    [25] Reagan, Life, 290, Reagan, Diaries, 86
    [26] Reagan Diaries, 196-8, 241, 255-6, Shultz, 294, 667, Reagan, Life, 444
    [27] Johnson, 55-7
    [28] Natsios 59-61, 68-9, Johnson 67-70
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Комментарии • 106

  • @CasualHistorian
    @CasualHistorian  7 месяцев назад +6

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    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 7 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for your content

  • @N3onDreamz
    @N3onDreamz 7 месяцев назад +52

    As a Sudanese person living in the diaspora, thank you for making the time to cover this issue 🙏🏿 my father lived through both wars and despite the horrors he saw, he still believes in the future of a free, democratic led Sudan.

    • @bobbobby3085
      @bobbobby3085 7 месяцев назад +1

      Inshallah

    • @HS7NewsTV
      @HS7NewsTV 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@bobbobby3085 free, democratic led Sudan with No allah

    • @bobbobby3085
      @bobbobby3085 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@HS7NewsTV Why? the people are muslim if you said that to them they would not like that

  • @bigiron9334
    @bigiron9334 7 месяцев назад +27

    Bro is looking even better then before. Stay on your journey brother!

  • @thomas11156
    @thomas11156 7 месяцев назад +16

    The Northerners are Africans with many different tribes that spoke indigenous languages. But the national language is Arabic.

    • @sudanesearmy
      @sudanesearmy 7 месяцев назад +6

      Right ! That's what most other African countries and some western countries don't understand .

    • @lukashradecky5492
      @lukashradecky5492 7 месяцев назад +7

      True. In fact the Arab speaking African nations arent considered Arab “Arab” rather the original people groups (Amazigh, Egyptians, Nubians) adopting Arab culture and language. In fact anyone who spoke Arabic no matter their ancestry considered one an “Arab”

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw 6 месяцев назад +1

      Its not pure arabic but a mixure of indiginous and arabic@@sudanesearmy

    • @moderatecanuck
      @moderatecanuck 3 месяца назад

      Exactly. That point bothered so much when I heard it. Its the same nonsense they use toward other North Africans

    • @moderatecanuck
      @moderatecanuck 3 месяца назад

      @@lukashradecky5492exactly

  • @user-gr9fq9gt9w
    @user-gr9fq9gt9w 4 месяца назад +4

    Joseph lagu is still alive and he is 94

  • @democracyboys
    @democracyboys 7 месяцев назад +7

    Damn dude you’re looking better than I do now, it wasn’t like that 3 years ago when I started following 😂 congrats and nice haircut

  • @RemberReach
    @RemberReach 7 месяцев назад +11

    Could you make a video about the Tigray War in Ethiopia.

  • @ashrafnouman8010
    @ashrafnouman8010 7 месяцев назад +4

    Please note that halaib triangle is part of Sudan not Egypt and you can check UN maps as well as US & UK department of state maps

    • @mouserat6835
      @mouserat6835 5 месяцев назад

      but its controlled by egypt doe

    • @ashrafnouman8010
      @ashrafnouman8010 5 месяцев назад +1

      @mouserat6835
      Well, that doesn't mean it is a part of Egypt. Rather, it means it is occupied by Egypt 😬

  • @paulgaskins7713
    @paulgaskins7713 7 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks!

  • @ebrimajallow9631
    @ebrimajallow9631 7 месяцев назад +63

    "ethic and religious tensions causing a war in Africa" That is CRAZY

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 7 месяцев назад

      RSF is bankrolled by the UAE... this is an international proxy war that's about some of the largest gold reserves in the world.
      Religion and ethnicity are just smoke and mirrors

    • @canalmedusa123
      @canalmedusa123 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ethnic

    • @farrightsocialistatheist845
      @farrightsocialistatheist845 7 месяцев назад

      High : Diversity
      Low : IQ

    • @secretagent5954
      @secretagent5954 7 месяцев назад +8

      ethnic and religious tensions causing a war anywhere? wild

    • @Nury_the_1
      @Nury_the_1 7 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@secretagent5954 Nah but Africa is plagued, it's as if somebody deliberately drew borders so arbitrarily with no knowledge.

  • @Danheron2
    @Danheron2 3 месяца назад +3

    16:33 I feel like that’s something historians and intellectuals, do a lot with a lot of different types of conflicts, from wars, to ethnic or religious violence to crime and gang conflict, where they try to say that the undertone or real driving force behind them is economic or material, which is often true, but I feel like sometimes they do that because to them economics or materialist motivators are more familiar and quantifiable something they can calculate and understand, while things, such as sectarianism, racism, blood feuds, pride and power, are by their very nature emotional and irrational, impossible to fully measure or comprehend, unless you’re feeling them, something intellectuals, especially technocratic ones, are often deeply uncomfortable confronting.

    • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
      @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 2 месяца назад

      Yes! Neither the poor footsoldier on the ground, nor the activist politician at the top have a single reason to pick up arms.

  • @michaelowino228
    @michaelowino228 7 месяцев назад +5

    Good video.

  • @ShubhamMishrabro
    @ShubhamMishrabro 7 месяцев назад +25

    Hopefully videos like these expose how Islamists were forcing their beliefs on non Muslims. Topics like these are not talked about

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 7 месяцев назад

      😂 you got South Sudan what more do you want

    • @MikeChol-ts5wp
      @MikeChol-ts5wp 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@skp8748 we need Nuba mountain, Darfur , and blue Nile

    • @tamrasg6960
      @tamrasg6960 7 месяцев назад

      Exactly I agree, They still Force people into their beliefs It's something that has been part of the Islamists for centuries The great-grandpa Lied to the kids And so on Generation after generation. When in fact this religion is horrible And they're always looking to Recruit people. That's by force, also what is funny is if a black Muslim, Tries to date an Arabian girl They won't be allowed, No matter how faithful you are to the Religion, Blackman, Or a black woman These Arabs will never respect you 💯 And if she goes ahead with it, There's something called The honour and kill, They're head gets decapitated, Just saying the truth

    • @Adrob56
      @Adrob56 3 месяца назад

      @@MikeChol-ts5wp all muslim regions and you are not getting it

    • @Adrob56
      @Adrob56 2 месяца назад

      @@majah4 what?

  • @TorricRoma
    @TorricRoma 7 месяцев назад +30

    Arab & Islamic imperialism

    • @EarthForces
      @EarthForces 7 месяцев назад +4

      It's the most blatant form other than Chinese, Russian, and lastly American.

    • @j1ful
      @j1ful 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yep

    • @lukashradecky5492
      @lukashradecky5492 7 месяцев назад

      >Roma

    • @aaronbowie2562
      @aaronbowie2562 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m glad everyone can see this

  • @deenrqqwe6794
    @deenrqqwe6794 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for making this video

  • @gnrvintagediecastracing7978
    @gnrvintagediecastracing7978 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic work , a level of detail I have never heard before.

  • @catsnads01
    @catsnads01 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very informative, thank you.

  • @thomas11156
    @thomas11156 7 месяцев назад +5

    The Northerns are African, but they speak Arabic and local languages.

    • @bafanamahlatse1923
      @bafanamahlatse1923 7 месяцев назад

      They are arabized,and identify as Arab not African

    • @lunyolieny4463
      @lunyolieny4463 6 месяцев назад

      i’m a descendant of the south and they’re not my people they belong to the arabs their values and culture is arabic not african

  • @BruceAlrighty1991
    @BruceAlrighty1991 7 месяцев назад

    Prescient & professional, thank you!

  • @thomas11156
    @thomas11156 7 месяцев назад +2

    The civil war in Ethiopia started in 1961 with the Eritrean war of independence and secession from Ethiopia. In 1974, the emperor was overthrown.

  • @mujtabashanan3548
    @mujtabashanan3548 7 месяцев назад +5

    You can't just lump different ethnically and culturally diverse groups and call it a nation. Sudan is till a mess and will never function as a country.
    Compared to other countries with cohesive ethnic composition, Sudan pandemonium will continue until the country fracture.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 4 месяца назад +1

      Literally no country has this. None in Africa, South-America or Asia. Ethnicity is important though.

  • @MikeChol-ts5wp
    @MikeChol-ts5wp 7 месяцев назад +2

    I enjoyed your representation and the last picture of red army marching which in fact I was among them at that time.

  • @nathanielzarny1176
    @nathanielzarny1176 7 месяцев назад +2

    25:43 you seem to have shifted the autonomous region to the right by accident, making it part of Ethiopia by mistake

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw 6 месяцев назад

      Was about to call my Prime minister of this invasion.

  • @BradleyCoopertest
    @BradleyCoopertest 6 месяцев назад

    Grant Hurst is a very witty and intelligent man.

  • @MikeChol-ts5wp
    @MikeChol-ts5wp 7 месяцев назад +2

    I got a question if you can be able to know it. Was President Reagan supporting the Government of president Gaafar Nimeiri in Sudan at the early stages of the war? From 1983 to 1990s or until the end of Reagan presidency?

    • @CasualHistorian
      @CasualHistorian  7 месяцев назад +7

      He supported Nimeiri until the 1985 coup, at which point US support for Khartoum was significantly curtailed, and by the 90s it was entirely gone due to Sudan supporting Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.

  • @awerlual4558
    @awerlual4558 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can you please make a video about Riak machar and why he committed a massacre on Bor in 1991

  • @n0rthbandit352
    @n0rthbandit352 6 месяцев назад

    Was just introduced to your channel a few mins ago with a 4 year old video of yours. Holy fucking shit.... You did a lot of work on yourself, that must've been hard. Congrats.

  • @aabbccdd4710
    @aabbccdd4710 7 месяцев назад +7

    Sugondese civil war

  • @expand9487
    @expand9487 6 месяцев назад

    i know it takes you many days to do research about the topics that you talk about, especially given how detailed you go. but do you have any recommendation channel that does deep history.

  • @dikiyulio
    @dikiyulio 7 месяцев назад +1

    👍🏼

  • @paulgaskins7713
    @paulgaskins7713 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if words like Mississippi sound as funny to them as the word any ananwa sound to us

    • @everettduncan7543
      @everettduncan7543 3 месяца назад

      Probably. A good number of languages in the region don't have the sound p

  • @milansimonovic8267
    @milansimonovic8267 7 месяцев назад

    Where did you get 4:44 futage?
    The subs are in Serbian Cyrilic.
    I can translate if you have more.

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 7 месяцев назад +1

  • @feartheamish9183
    @feartheamish9183 7 месяцев назад +2

    Bro you lost weight!

  • @Lightyagamee
    @Lightyagamee 3 месяца назад

    Nigeria is up next

  • @zacharybradshaw8844
    @zacharybradshaw8844 6 месяцев назад

    Why u look like Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys 😂

  • @pickititllneverheal9016
    @pickititllneverheal9016 7 месяцев назад +9

    What are you talking about? Muslims are a peaceful religious people. They would never use violence to push an agenda!!! 🤪💥💀

    • @lukashradecky5492
      @lukashradecky5492 7 месяцев назад +3

      Many people do. Why do you act as if you exposed a grand conspiracy?

    • @pickititllneverheal9016
      @pickititllneverheal9016 7 месяцев назад

      @@lukashradecky5492 WHAT? Don't you have a bottom surgery appointment to get to? Go away.

    • @user-uv9tl4jt8w
      @user-uv9tl4jt8w 7 месяцев назад

      @@lukashradecky5492 Wherever you are, there is violence and conflict.

    • @loanswashere.
      @loanswashere. 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@lukashradecky5492
      I mean I dont blame them, alot of the recent news coming out of the middle east and other muslim countries is just violence. When all you see about a group of people is just them being violence you start to think everyone in that group is like that.

  • @bunnystrasse
    @bunnystrasse 6 месяцев назад +3

    Islam was the problem, still is.

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw 6 месяцев назад

      The northern Sudanese in collaboration with the arab slave masters were selling the southerners into slavery in the middle east and Asia.

  • @DA7274
    @DA7274 7 месяцев назад

    Under 301 views

  • @abdelrahmanelsheikh5798
    @abdelrahmanelsheikh5798 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is wholly inaccurate. This video is clearly made by someone who has never set foot in Sudan.
    I'm a Sudanese citizen in my 50s. I lived through most of these wars; imposed on Sudan I should add.
    These wars have been a waged by proxy by foreign states meddling in Sudanese affairs. The first war by the ex colonial power
    The second war was waged by the terrorist regimes in Libya (durinh Gaddafi's rule) nd Ethiopia (during Mengistu bloody regime). Later on the rebels were supported by Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Uganda, Kenya to advance their influence into Sudanse territory.
    Know that facts, not propaganda like this!

    • @thephoenix756
      @thephoenix756 5 месяцев назад +6

      False
      There were organic, internal reasons for war in Sudan; you can't just keep blaming external powers for your own actions

  • @WeWereKingPodcast
    @WeWereKingPodcast 3 месяца назад

    This guy knows nothing about my beloved Sudan. He uses western media propaganda and makes content on it but he knows nothing about Sudan

    • @gnrvintagediecastracing7978
      @gnrvintagediecastracing7978 2 месяца назад

      Then send him what he should know, what he is missing , what corrections or context is missing. As for western propaganda, the fact is the west could care less about Sudan and virtually no information is known about Sudan. This is a channel I just discovered and I have learned a lot about Sudan that I have never known. So he may be incorrect but I doubt he is incorrect about everything and I really don’t even know what is considered propaganda in this video. The purpose of propoganda is to propel a myth and if that’s the case the propaganda has failed miserably

  • @Junje-ri9jo
    @Junje-ri9jo 2 месяца назад

    God bless Ethiopia and indigenous Africans.