Ive seen people streaming it, glowing about how great the performance is, and I can clearly see the camera pan stutters. Its wild. Im so disappointed, this is an amazing game, it deserves better....
I'm not experiencing any stuttering that affects my gameplay. If a frame graph is needed to see the stuttering, then it doesn't affect me. I'm running native res at 120fps. Yeah, there's some FPS dips and maybe some stuttering, but it doesn't happen frequently to be an issue. Or I just don't notice it. I still think Square Enix are horrible at PC Ports, but one thing I can say is FF7 Rebirth runs very well for me. Question for everyone claiming to have terrible stutters, did you skip shader caching? You can skip it if you're in a hurry, but you really shouldn't. Played the game both on a 4K TV and a 1440p monitor.
Im curious why some people are reporting no stutters. To be honest i dont believe it. They are probably not noticing them. Some people dont even notice the difference between 60hz and 144hz.
maybe the normal people but I have no stutter at all playing 4k 100% DRS 120fps no stutter at all however I am playing on a 285k and 4090 my frametime graphs are smooth as butter
that's pc for you all people have different specs different brand etc, I dont have a stutter so far even in the open world ultra on 1080p and high on 1440p Im currently using 4060 Ti 8gb
@Marltiod to be fair, most people likely don't even check if their 144Hz monitor is actually properly setup to run at 144Hz or any Framerate above 60Hz and are disappointed, because they can't tell the difference.
ding ding ding, give the guy a prize. What's it farking matter? Some people aren't going to notice, and good for them. Some people will, especially if you're a twitch game player using only keyboard and mouse.
The game is on discount right now. If you are running a mid level to decent system, you're most likely going to be fine with this port. Runs and looks way better than it did on the base PS5. Been running it at 4K/90fps and I'm up to chapter 4. I have no complaints so far
I feel like they don't even try anymore. And it's an area where Microsoft actually doesn't get enough credit. Even if I don't enjoy the games, I've barely had any issues playing Halo, Hellblade 2, Starfield, Hi-Fi Rush, Gears, Indiana Jones, etc. and I never face constant issues, game-ruining camera stutter, poor GPU utilization, etc.
@@nathanthompson742 Stutter is none issue. Just disable those on screen display statistic and enjoy the game. This is just a case of being nit pick so they can have something to talk about.
Not saying this guy is wrong but I honestly haven't experience anything jarring or game breaking.. 4700 ti Super and 78003xd at 1440p ultrawide.. Getting well above 80fps with native res and even more with DLSS.. Not seeing stuttering or at least not noticing it in any meaningful way
Frametime graphs are nice. But they don't mean sht in this review. I have seen worse performance from PC games! It almost seems like you want a excuse to complain. I can make your review much smaller. Is it a perfect PC port? No!....FSR? Framegen? It's UE4 and the game has UE4 problems. Wow! Surprise! I have seen MANY UE4 games have the exact same issues. The devs even stated that they are learning more about the engine and how to utilize it better in a interview. This port was better than remake and that lines up with what they said in the interview. Stop complaining over the little things! I have a RTX 3060 and a Ryzen 3600 and only really got stutters near the start. when that went by, it stopped and it has been smooth ever since on 1440P. Don't use Ultra setting for background unless you have a strong PC! I use high and works like a charm with minimal pop-in.
These are my "best settings" 4k 60fps VRR, high everything except fog low, Ultra environment, NPC 2, Shadows 2, Camera 2 and Battle Camera 2, DLSS 100% High, 50% Low I average 60fps on 4K on a 3080 10GB, 10600k,32GB RAM, LG OLED C2 (FF7 Remake was a way better performance experience) Too many pop ins and stutters in FF7 Rebirth
The stutters are pretty noticeable on AMD mostly because they don't give us constant driver support for games like NVDIA. Maybe it's the games bad optimization but i'll wait for a driver update before i blame the game. I'm still having tons of fun even with these hiccups.
for your crappy amd setup that just the AMdip im playing on a 285k and aa 4090 and its smooth as butter i was actually saying the complete opposite to myself while playing then you are in this video. and yes i have msi afterburner riva tuner frame time everything pulled up absolutely no stutter at all
Steam Deck verification primarily consists of UI and text input compatibility. If it can do that and run it tends to get a verified badge. Otherwise I'd look to protondb for a more nuanced look at how a game runs rather than the fairly low bar that Valve sets for verified status.
It drove me insane for a bit as well, especially in chapter 1 and Kalm. I'm in The Grasslands now and the stutter is completely gone. What I found most interesting was a full picture blur when playing in 1440p, no matter what I tried the picture would always seem blurry to me. I had to switch to my 4K/60 monitor. Right now, I would recommend ANYONE to play this at 4k/60 if possible. It is the best experience yet.
Not sure if this is of much use for anyone, but I was originally getting pretty noticeable stutters upon the first boot of the game. I realized that setting the display tech setting to VRR in fact did not engage gsync, so any dropped frames would cause large frame time spikes. However, setting the it to VSYNC enabled gsync and reduced the frame time spikes overall. For context, in the NVCP I have gsync enabled, low latency set to “ultra” (which automatically caps the frame rate to below a certain threshold; 116fps on a 120hz screen in my case), and vsync enabled globally. Never had this happen in any other game but there you go. To further reduce frame time spikes I turned the background detail setting to high instead of ultra. This is on a rtx 4080 and R7 5800x3D system. It’s noticeably smoother since.
@Enable the following in the global setting in the nvidia control panel: gsync fullscreen only, low latency to “ultra”, and vsync set to “on”. Once in-game, set the display sync setting to “vsync” and I would also suggest dropping background detail to high or below.
I'm not encountering any issues on my 7900XT and 7800X3D. No noticable stutters, no crashes, no texture errors. And I'm not running the preview drivers, just the old ones (24.12.1).
Y’all about to have a grand ol’ time with this game if you can ignore the minor stutters. Played this game on repeat last year on console and bought it again on PC which is rocking a RTX 4070 + Ryzen 7 5800XT. Easily one of the best games I have played last year. Hope you all fun with this!
There literally must be aomething wrong with my eyes. I cannot tell the difference beetween 30fps and 60fps, and I certainly don't notice any stutter unless it's this thing that causes like 10fps. Im not sure if this is a blessing or a curse 🤷♂️
I'm the same. 0 stutter but I'm running Nvidia so perhaps the lack of driver support is the issue? I know there was no driver update on the Nvidia side.
I have a 4070TI and an "old and cheap" 12600k and I haven't experienced any stutters yet. Compared to FF16, FF7 Rebirth runs like a wet dream. 120 FPS in 2k native resolution with the highest settings WITHOUT Frame Gen and DLSS in a densely built-up city with 100 NPCs. I can only dream of such performance in FF16. In FF16 I have 60 FPS and less in 2k native max settings... on an empty meadow in a narrow level with no NPCs and FF7 Rebirth looks a lot better than FF16. That shows how much performance stuff like Denuvo and VM Protec are tanking...
As sad as the TAA look is, a patchwork fix I found for now is to enable CAS(Contrast Adaptive Sharpening) at 40% in the AMD Drivers, it does "eliminate" some of the blurryness.
There is definitely stutter. It's very minor for me personally but it does happen and it's very jarring when it happens because everything else runs perfect up until that stutter comes out of nowhere
I set the graphics to medium preset on my pc, and enabling 100 percent scaling on both minimum and maximum settings. and there is no more stuttering. Smooth as butter on 1080p. I have an rtx 4060, and an amd ryzen 7 3700x. What helps is that I'm using dlss 4, and the patch 1.001 that improves the optimization. I also heard the 1.001 patch fixed most issues on the steam deck.
This is actually there best port. I think this video has a bit of misinformation - it does work on Steamdeck using its hardware. But if you run it under Proton with an NVIDIA card currently it doesn't render a lot of the world correctly. This is actually due to a bug in the NVIDIA drivers which NVIDIA need to update at their end. As for stutter I didn't get any when running on Proton from the time I played with it. On a side note I decided to play it under Windows till the bug is fixed and the game is buttery smooth with everything on high/ultra using the ff7rebirthfix to get ultra widescreen at 5120x1440 on a 4080 super, using DLAA not DLSS and on a 9950x. The frame rate goes between 75-90fps most of the time. Sometimes in the 100s - but I'm rendering 2 x 2560x1440 displays here at once :)
This game has a *HUGE* crashing problem. I had about 10 crashes in the opening two hours, and the only way that I could stop the game from crashing was to cap it at 60fps, lower level detail to high, and allow dynamic resolution to lower to 30% I don't know which of these things fixed the game, but one of them did.
@captainthunderbolt7541 have the same problem even on high end pc textures not loading blurry mess and crashes SQ need to step up even Final Fantasy 15 looks way better with 4K textures
i play on a 4070 at 90 fps 1440p at mostly high settings is that too much if so what should i lower because this game doesnt have a optimization setting and i notice stutters and tbh the visuals arent all that
Bro is running pc specs from 2+ years ago (Ryzen 7 7700X and RX 7900XT) with settings maxed out expecting great results 🤣 Just looking at your channel, this video makes sense. Your whole channel is based off of negative content. Titles like "Garbage, Exposed, Scammed, Failure, Pathetic", just sad.
5700x3d and 7800xt doesn't matter if i play on high medium or low the game stutters, the new update came out today and it still hasn't fully fixed it also they need to add FRS support.
What are you talking about ? Game runs fine, even an entry level PC can run fine without stuttering nor crash. There are a few people who have issues with the game like soft lock, infinite loading screen and Non RTX users.
I have had no issue at all no sutters or any issues , im using a 2080 ti and nothing bad and im in the open world . i dont get whats going on , maybe its a AMD and ATI issue .
I get stutters as well on my PC but it isn't as bad as FF7 remake when it came out. They're improving and hopefully they can fix it soon. Its playable but unfortunate that it micro stutters every so often.
Not only square enix lied. All the RUclipsrs who got early access and said it was good lied. Maximillian dude specifically. I’ve been saying dude is basically an advertisement for square and capcom for years, they give him early copies and offer inside details. Open your eyes
no, they actually run on high tier nividia hardware. i have a 4090 and a 7950x3D and for me, it runs almost completly stutter free. friend of mine has a 3090 and a 5800x3D and for him, it's not as smooth. problem here is, that ppl with hardware below the top tier specs, should actually lower some settings, to match their hardware, but most ppl somehow don't want to do that, hence why their experience is bad. they said optimal would be a 4080 rtx card, before the games release. everything below that, if you want a smoother experience, you will have do go lower with the settings. once my friend with the 3090 tried to do max resolution 100% and min resolution 67% or what that set setting is, it ran way smoother for him, with DLSS that is. they could've optimized it still a bit better, cause that is always possible, but if you run something like a 3070, you just can't expect to run maxed out everything. that's not how PC works. i'm waiting for the DF analysis, where we'll see multiple systems running it, and in detail. i mean it's crazy to think that alexx here on an AMD card, has such a bad time, even if it's a strong AMD card, when the game was programed for a full on AMD system, which the PS5 is. i would've expected it to run a wee bit better on AMD graphics cards, but, that's the sad reality or PC games, 80% of day one games, just don't run all that well, except if you run the beafiest system, and you power trough the issues.
@ cool, but how do you say no, but then say that’s the sad reality of pc gaming? It’s not so much pc gaming, just devs not bothering to optimize their game more
@ it is not a lie if your configuration are not up to par. It wouldn't be fair to blame Max and Square because you are playing on windows 98, not literally.
Do people just not know how to set up their graphics settings? Every time a game comes out and it's just constantly: "IT'S STUTTERING" and it runs perfectly for me. I think people really need to learn how to adjust their settings properly.
Speaking of ports, did you give up on your Bloodborne emulation video? I know you don't like the game but you DID say that the video was happening almost 6 months ago.
I'm still in Chapter 1 and I've been encountering issues. I'm on aging hardware though, literally bare minimum for 1080p60 so. That probably doesn't help matters. Hopefully when I get a new rig later this year between the beefier hardware and whatever patches that may have been put out my issues will be eliminated.
i have a 5900x and a 3080.... Why is none of what you're talking about in this video happening to me? Is having higher end components actually worse now?
Im running an Nvidia 2070 super and i have had zero issues since being in the open world. I actually had more issues in the beggining of the intro but i switched to DLSS and have had no issues since
If you don't have the suted equipment or the new driver you will have a stutter. With the latest drivers no stutter. And Mr streamer this serious side of you without acid spitting on other consoles suits you so much better.
So I recently got FF16 on PC and I was getting stuttering, but only while using frame generation. I turned it off and locked the framerate at 60. I play the game on max settings, dlss quality at 1440p and the game is smooth as butter. Its PC, some of the tech just isn't there. Just because it stutters with the settings you are using doesn't mean you can't fix it lol.
using a 4090 with everything maxed i do see some stuttering here and there, what i've done is run Rebirth with a program on Steam called Lossless Scaling, allows me to double~quadruple my framerate, it looks MUCH nicer that way although i prefer to stick with the double framerate to avoid the wierd effects from the AI.
No stutters on 4080 for me... but stutters are being reported on both card brands but AMD is apparently more apparent. AMD did release an optional driver for Rebirth but I don't if it helps.
Not really noticed much stutter personally, but I am using nvidia instead of amd, and true or not, from what I've read, microstutter is more common on amd... I am also using controller though, so that could also be why I've noticed it less.
My thing is that it will run quite well at 60fps for a while, and then the frame rate will just tank down to sub 30 and stay like that until I quit out of the entire application and start it back up. I'm on a mobile grade 2070 with a slight overclock provided by the new Nvidia app.
I really hope square enix will fix the performance issues with patches. The blurriness is a big issue for me. Also, the stutters from moving the camera around. Next there is terrible performance in all towns and small farms. CPU usage is low in towns but GPU is hovering between 90-99% usage but then back down to 70% or less, once I leave the town or small farm.
Everyone complaining about unstable 120fps. Has anyone tried locking it to 90fps? Just sounds like the game is not able to run at max settings with 120fps.
I have it on Rog Ally. Everything set low. AFMF 2, RSR upscaling 720p to 1080p. 30W I get a solid 30fps but with the mentioned stutter. At the moment, I'm honestly just grateful I don't need a ps5.
Native looks fine but if you want the generated frames FSR3 would offer use AFMF2 instead which works on this game if you are on a AMD Video Card. If not Nvidia on their end from my understanding will offer the same feature which generates frames without the game needing to be compatible in either some later driver or current driver. Have to activate this feature on your drivers software or through the overlay.
Wait, you mean to say that no hardware currently out can brute force the game into stability? The optimization is that bad?! As it’s not like you have basic or mid range hardware. You have high end hardware. A Ryzen 7 7700x and RX 7900XT is a potent combination after all. What brand do you have for your GPU? If I bought AMD, I’d go for a Sapphire card, with MSI and Gigabyte as secondary and tertiary options. As if I’m not mistaken, Sapphire is to AMD, what EVGA was to Nvidia.
Yoshi-P also lied in the months leading up to the XVI port, with many of the features he claimed to be present... not present. Everybody told us to trust him... well loved by the XIV community. Always take what corporations and these figureheads say with a big grain of salt. Even as a lover of JRPGs, Square Enix is on my blocklist as a PC gamer.
Maybe it's an AMD GPU issue haven't noticed the stutter on my 4090 system. I have a 6900XT PC that I am eager to try the game on and see how it performs. Neither AMD or Nvidia have released updated drivers that officially support the game either.
No performance issues here but it doesn’t look as good as I was expecting with all the settings maxed out. Also disappointing that they still don’t give 32:9 aspect ratio support
I’ve been doing some testing and here’s my conclusions. Running the game on a 4k LG C3 OLED (mentioning bc I think it’s helping with the res scaling) on a 7800x3d/7900xt system. I’m not experiencing near the amount of stutters that you are but the worst performance I get is running 4k native, VRR selected for display sync technology. There are occasional dips into high 30s, low 40s when in Nidelhiem. But it’s mostly 60+ fps experience at high preset, TAA, and ultra background model detail (this setting almost eliminated all pop in). Gets as high as 80s to 90s in some areas. Setting the resolution scale to 66% actually looks really good on my tv. I have a theory that LGs tech is helping here bc it’s REALLY hard to tell the difference between native and 66% on my 4k tv. Performance drastically increases to 90-120 fps consistently. Some dips but nothing too jarring. Actual preferred setting is 4k native, high preset, VRR, frame cap to 60, low fog, ultra background model detail, and turn on AFMF2. With the frame cap at 60, AFMF 2 locks my gps to 120. Frame rate stays locked to 120 too. Very smooth gameplay and almost all but eliminates the dips and looks exceptional. My frame graphs are SOLID. I wish I could post pics here to show, but imo if you have an AMD card, use afmf2 in this title along with capping at half your monitors refresh. Much more enjoyable experience.
tried playing it for a bit, but did get some bad stutter at the beginning when zack and cloud are in the crowd...im hearing some people say that situations like that only happen a little in the first chapter....and im hearing others saying perhaps all the shaders didnt download...which wouldnt surprise me since that shader download completed a little to quick for a game this size....
If you had the magic in the ps5's ssd, there would be no stutter. I will also lie like the defenders in the comments and claim there is no stutter, despite video evidence. Since I didn't notice it on the imaginary copy I own, that means it's not there.
Its a bare bones port, it has texture pop ins, low resolution shadows on textures that aren't too far away, and a ton of stutters. They should've added fsr 3.1 and intel xess. The worst thing is that it doesn't support dx11 so it can't stutter that often.
For all the people saying they are having zero stuttering. Post a video on RUclips. I want to see y'alls frametime graph.
They all have stutter they will just make excuses like I only had one stutter or two stutter and I’m fine with it lol
Ive seen people streaming it, glowing about how great the performance is, and I can clearly see the camera pan stutters. Its wild. Im so disappointed, this is an amazing game, it deserves better....
They probably have a VRR display and don’t notice it.
No Problem will do clown
I'm not experiencing any stuttering that affects my gameplay. If a frame graph is needed to see the stuttering, then it doesn't affect me.
I'm running native res at 120fps. Yeah, there's some FPS dips and maybe some stuttering, but it doesn't happen frequently to be an issue. Or I just don't notice it.
I still think Square Enix are horrible at PC Ports, but one thing I can say is FF7 Rebirth runs very well for me. Question for everyone claiming to have terrible stutters, did you skip shader caching? You can skip it if you're in a hurry, but you really shouldn't. Played the game both on a 4K TV and a 1440p monitor.
monster hunter wilds situation ....
plays "fine" on the pre tutorial scene but starts going downwards once you are thrown into the open world area
I mean. 2 year old beta build lol... bad idea.
Im curious why some people are reporting no stutters. To be honest i dont believe it. They are probably not noticing them. Some people dont even notice the difference between 60hz and 144hz.
maybe the normal people but I have no stutter at all playing 4k 100% DRS 120fps no stutter at all however I am playing on a 285k and 4090 my frametime graphs are smooth as butter
that's pc for you all people have different specs different brand etc, I dont have a stutter so far even in the open world ultra on 1080p and high on 1440p Im currently using 4060 Ti 8gb
@Marltiod to be fair, most people likely don't even check if their 144Hz monitor is actually properly setup to run at 144Hz or any Framerate above 60Hz and are disappointed, because they can't tell the difference.
ding ding ding, give the guy a prize.
What's it farking matter? Some people aren't going to notice, and good for them. Some people will, especially if you're a twitch game player using only keyboard and mouse.
13700k rtx4080 no stutter at all max graphics 4k 120 100%Low100%high scaling Samsung q70 4k 120fps 55 dual led tv
I realized that I had stutters when I was testing the game and turned down my refresh rate from 144 hz to 120 hz, the stutters were gone.
Same it fixed it for me. Maybe there's some sort bottleneck maybe not the right term. But I'm using a LG C3 TV at 120hz and it workes
@@EvertheWiseI have a C2 are you using VRR? I noticed V-sync doesn't change FPS but VRR does
Square Enix can't even use PS5 dev kits efficiently. They were paid a bag of cash to specifically optimise it for that platform and still failed. 😂
The game is on discount right now. If you are running a mid level to decent system, you're most likely going to be fine with this port. Runs and looks way better than it did on the base PS5. Been running it at 4K/90fps and I'm up to chapter 4. I have no complaints so far
It looks buttery smooth to me. Stop crying about what a tool says and just play the game
Too many devs don't know how to optimize their games on PC
It isn't about not knowing how. It's about rushing it out of the door before it's ready.
I honestly think they just phone it in.
I feel like they don't even try anymore.
And it's an area where Microsoft actually doesn't get enough credit.
Even if I don't enjoy the games, I've barely had any issues playing Halo, Hellblade 2, Starfield, Hi-Fi Rush, Gears, Indiana Jones, etc. and I never face constant issues, game-ruining camera stutter, poor GPU utilization, etc.
Stutter struggle really does drive me crazy. I picked this up on a sale but haven't started it yet. Might refund it if it stutters like this.
@@nathanthompson742 Stutter is none issue. Just disable those on screen display statistic and enjoy the game. This is just a case of being nit pick so they can have something to talk about.
Not saying this guy is wrong but I honestly haven't experience anything jarring or game breaking.. 4700 ti Super and 78003xd at 1440p ultrawide.. Getting well above 80fps with native res and even more with DLSS.. Not seeing stuttering or at least not noticing it in any meaningful way
Griffin gaming is going to cope and seethe over this video because muh final fantasy and muh aerith
The stutter is your own pc. The problem with pc is that some people like this reviewer aren’t smart enough to set up the pc correctly.
Frametime graphs are nice. But they don't mean sht in this review. I have seen worse performance from PC games! It almost seems like you want a excuse to complain. I can make your review much smaller. Is it a perfect PC port? No!....FSR? Framegen? It's UE4 and the game has UE4 problems. Wow! Surprise! I have seen MANY UE4 games have the exact same issues. The devs even stated that they are learning more about the engine and how to utilize it better in a interview. This port was better than remake and that lines up with what they said in the interview. Stop complaining over the little things! I have a RTX 3060 and a Ryzen 3600 and only really got stutters near the start. when that went by, it stopped and it has been smooth ever since on 1440P. Don't use Ultra setting for background unless you have a strong PC! I use high and works like a charm with minimal pop-in.
These are my "best settings" 4k 60fps VRR, high everything except fog low, Ultra environment, NPC 2, Shadows 2, Camera 2 and Battle Camera 2, DLSS 100% High, 50% Low
I average 60fps on 4K on a 3080 10GB, 10600k,32GB RAM, LG OLED C2 (FF7 Remake was a way better performance experience) Too many pop ins and stutters in FF7 Rebirth
What??!!!? It’s a good port plenty of people me included are pleasantly surprised was not expecting this 😔
It's terrible lol. Especially with the complete lack of PC options.
The stutters are pretty noticeable on AMD mostly because they don't give us constant driver support for games like NVDIA.
Maybe it's the games bad optimization but i'll wait for a driver update before i blame the game.
I'm still having tons of fun even with these hiccups.
@@loopo8940on amd its fine for me. 6700xt. Also you can get beta drivers for this game. Its also fine for me
there is nvidia driver for ff7rebirth either
@@loopo8940 There is no Nvidia driver for FF7 Rebirth yet. The latest driver update was from December 5 2024.
I played it over the weekend. I didn't experience any stutter. I'm on a Legion 4090 mobile 16gb, i9 13900HX 32gb system Ram. Runs flawless.
for your crappy amd setup that just the AMdip im playing on a 285k and aa 4090 and its smooth as butter i was actually saying the complete opposite to myself while playing then you are in this video. and yes i have msi afterburner riva tuner frame time everything pulled up absolutely no stutter at all
Steam Deck verification primarily consists of UI and text input compatibility. If it can do that and run it tends to get a verified badge. Otherwise I'd look to protondb for a more nuanced look at how a game runs rather than the fairly low bar that Valve sets for verified status.
ive had no stutter on my 4080 super lol the game ran flawlessly
It drove me insane for a bit as well, especially in chapter 1 and Kalm. I'm in The Grasslands now and the stutter is completely gone.
What I found most interesting was a full picture blur when playing in 1440p, no matter what I tried the picture would always seem blurry to me. I had to switch to my 4K/60 monitor.
Right now, I would recommend ANYONE to play this at 4k/60 if possible. It is the best experience yet.
Yup tried 2k for more fps but it was worse then using DLSS at 4k
Same here with 7800 xt stutter on flashback and kalm, but right after the grassland introduce cutscene, the stutter just disappeared.
You guys using the frame gen mod?
@@petebagwell6666 no, I don't like it because it ruins the hud.
@@redcold莉扣 there's actually a fix for that 1 sec
7800xt 5900x 32gb ram nvme rns perfect in 1080p maxed 120 fps , another bullshido master who cant fix their pc or play on hdf
Not sure if this is of much use for anyone, but I was originally getting pretty noticeable stutters upon the first boot of the game. I realized that setting the display tech setting to VRR in fact did not engage gsync, so any dropped frames would cause large frame time spikes. However, setting the it to VSYNC enabled gsync and reduced the frame time spikes overall. For context, in the NVCP I have gsync enabled, low latency set to “ultra” (which automatically caps the frame rate to below a certain threshold; 116fps on a 120hz screen in my case), and vsync enabled globally. Never had this happen in any other game but there you go. To further reduce frame time spikes I turned the background detail setting to high instead of ultra. This is on a rtx 4080 and R7 5800x3D system. It’s noticeably smoother since.
so using VSync instead of VRR and enabling g-sync globally is what u saying?
@Enable the following in the global setting in the nvidia control panel: gsync fullscreen only, low latency to “ultra”, and vsync set to “on”. Once in-game, set the display sync setting to “vsync” and I would also suggest dropping background detail to high or below.
I'm not encountering any issues on my 7900XT and 7800X3D. No noticable stutters, no crashes, no texture errors. And I'm not running the preview drivers, just the old ones (24.12.1).
I can't even try it, my hardware and funds are out of date lol, I stream and post all the time.
Oh ok makes sense now cause I have a 7700x with 7900xtx and it was stuttering like crazy. Thought my setup wasn't enough for it for a sec
Download the adrenaline preview drivers my friend.
It stutters a lot more on AMD cards from what I’ve heard.
Y’all about to have a grand ol’ time with this game if you can ignore the minor stutters. Played this game on repeat last year on console and bought it again on PC which is rocking a RTX 4070 + Ryzen 7 5800XT. Easily one of the best games I have played last year. Hope you all fun with this!
PC Optimization is an after thought.
It's running fine for me... is this the 'whiny babies' section of youtube?
open world runs better than nibelheim for me, by like 10x
Ponies are claiming PC players pirate more than buying on Steam... Meanwhile the peak player count is higher than XVI.
Oh no! Not stutter!! Oh the humanity!
Seriously, who cares
There literally must be aomething wrong with my eyes. I cannot tell the difference beetween 30fps and 60fps, and I certainly don't notice any stutter unless it's this thing that causes like 10fps.
Im not sure if this is a blessing or a curse 🤷♂️
Thanks for the review!
Go AMD get MAD. Nvidia4Life.
zero - literally - stutter here (after initially shader compilation). smooth as butter.
I didnt make it to the open world yet. Im scared lmfao
For some reason after you hit the open world the stutters are less frequent
But this is a much better port than Remake and XVI
Thanks, I'll wait for the patches before buying this. I'll be pissed if I get some nutty stuttering with a 4090 and 9800x3d... Patience is a virtue 😶.
Funny that my 6 year old gpu manages to play this game without stutters, tho less fps
How about posting the GPU model do we can verify? 😂
Sure pal
Square: why cant we sell more copies?
Because of torrent
I have not really encountered stutter
Neither have I. Just in the beginning and it was brief.
Couple hours in, encountered 0 stutter
I'm the same. 0 stutter but I'm running Nvidia so perhaps the lack of driver support is the issue? I know there was no driver update on the Nvidia side.
I definitely have
Same my game has been playing beautifully and I could tell the difference because I have this game on PlayStation 5 lol
I have 3080 it work for me
I'm confused why is there a TB top hat logo on your video? Am I missing something?
I have a 4070TI and an "old and cheap" 12600k and I haven't experienced any stutters yet. Compared to FF16, FF7 Rebirth runs like a wet dream.
120 FPS in 2k native resolution with the highest settings WITHOUT Frame Gen and DLSS in a densely built-up city with 100 NPCs.
I can only dream of such performance in FF16. In FF16 I have 60 FPS and less in 2k native max settings... on an empty meadow in a narrow level with no NPCs and FF7 Rebirth looks a lot better than FF16.
That shows how much performance stuff like Denuvo and VM Protec are tanking...
As sad as the TAA look is, a patchwork fix I found for now is to enable CAS(Contrast Adaptive Sharpening) at 40% in the AMD Drivers, it does "eliminate" some of the blurryness.
There is definitely stutter. It's very minor for me personally but it does happen and it's very jarring when it happens because everything else runs perfect up until that stutter comes out of nowhere
I set the graphics to medium preset on my pc, and enabling 100 percent scaling on both minimum and maximum settings. and there is no more stuttering. Smooth as butter on 1080p. I have an rtx 4060, and an amd ryzen 7 3700x. What helps is that I'm using dlss 4, and the patch 1.001 that improves the optimization. I also heard the 1.001 patch fixed most issues on the steam deck.
This is actually there best port. I think this video has a bit of misinformation - it does work on Steamdeck using its hardware. But if you run it under Proton with an NVIDIA card currently it doesn't render a lot of the world correctly. This is actually due to a bug in the NVIDIA drivers which NVIDIA need to update at their end.
As for stutter I didn't get any when running on Proton from the time I played with it. On a side note I decided to play it under Windows till the bug is fixed and the game is buttery smooth with everything on high/ultra using the ff7rebirthfix to get ultra widescreen at 5120x1440 on a 4080 super, using DLAA not DLSS and on a 9950x. The frame rate goes between 75-90fps most of the time. Sometimes in the 100s - but I'm rendering 2 x 2560x1440 displays here at once :)
This game has a *HUGE* crashing problem. I had about 10 crashes in the opening two hours, and the only way that I could stop the game from crashing was to cap it at 60fps, lower level detail to high, and allow dynamic resolution to lower to 30%
I don't know which of these things fixed the game, but one of them did.
Vram problem isseu
@ I have 16gb of VRAM.
@captainthunderbolt7541 have the same problem even on high end pc textures not loading blurry mess and crashes SQ need to step up even Final Fantasy 15 looks way better with 4K textures
Are you using mods some are asking alot of your GPU which in the brakes the game as not strong enough
@ No, it's all vanilla. I think the game just pushes the GPU hard, and doesn't use the resolution scaling as aggressively as it should.
The game has weird micro stutters even on 120 FPS
Bad frame pacing
PSA: ✅ if youre in AMD download the preview drivers 25.1.1
Did it improve anything you actually notice? Because I have updated before and regretted it lol.
@@codymadison9993a little less stuttering yeah. But tbh it wasnt very bad for me before anyways.
Also its easy to revert back your driver
Thanks I’ll check my drivers but I have noticed camera stuttering but not enough to bother me
60% or more people does not even know what a stutter is and claiming not having a single one, it's hilarious and very sad at the same time... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought it was my PC at first but seeing this wow eye opener
i play on a 4070 at 90 fps 1440p at mostly high settings is that too much if so what should i lower because this game doesnt have a optimization setting and i notice stutters and tbh the visuals arent all that
Bro is running pc specs from 2+ years ago (Ryzen 7 7700X and RX 7900XT) with settings maxed out expecting great results 🤣
Just looking at your channel, this video makes sense. Your whole channel is based off of negative content. Titles like "Garbage, Exposed, Scammed, Failure, Pathetic", just sad.
5700x3d and 7800xt doesn't matter if i play on high medium or low the game stutters, the new update came out today and it still hasn't fully fixed it also they need to add FRS support.
What are you talking about ? Game runs fine, even an entry level PC can run fine without stuttering nor crash. There are a few people who have issues with the game like soft lock, infinite loading screen and Non RTX users.
When Digital Foundry is slacking, I come here.
I have had no issue at all no sutters or any issues , im using a 2080 ti and nothing bad and im in the open world . i dont get whats going on , maybe its a AMD and ATI issue .
Can there be a port review on Ninja Gaiden 2 Black?
I get stutters as well on my PC but it isn't as bad as FF7 remake when it came out. They're improving and hopefully they can fix it soon. Its playable but unfortunate that it micro stutters every so often.
Not only square enix lied. All the RUclipsrs who got early access and said it was good lied. Maximillian dude specifically. I’ve been saying dude is basically an advertisement for square and capcom for years, they give him early copies and offer inside details. Open your eyes
max and that indian dude blitz lied their asses
no, they actually run on high tier nividia hardware. i have a 4090 and a 7950x3D and for me, it runs almost completly stutter free.
friend of mine has a 3090 and a 5800x3D and for him, it's not as smooth.
problem here is, that ppl with hardware below the top tier specs, should actually lower some settings, to match their hardware, but most ppl somehow don't want to do that, hence why their experience is bad. they said optimal would be a 4080 rtx card, before the games release. everything below that, if you want a smoother experience, you will have do go lower with the settings.
once my friend with the 3090 tried to do max resolution 100% and min resolution 67% or what that set setting is, it ran way smoother for him, with DLSS that is.
they could've optimized it still a bit better, cause that is always possible, but if you run something like a 3070, you just can't expect to run maxed out everything. that's not how PC works.
i'm waiting for the DF analysis, where we'll see multiple systems running it, and in detail.
i mean it's crazy to think that alexx here on an AMD card, has such a bad time, even if it's a strong AMD card, when the game was programed for a full on AMD system, which the PS5 is. i would've expected it to run a wee bit better on AMD graphics cards, but, that's the sad reality or PC games, 80% of day one games, just don't run all that well, except if you run the beafiest system, and you power trough the issues.
@ cool, but how do you say no, but then say that’s the sad reality of pc gaming? It’s not so much pc gaming, just devs not bothering to optimize their game more
@ it is not a lie if your configuration are not up to par. It wouldn't be fair to blame Max and Square because you are playing on windows 98, not literally.
So not only square lied on selling a shit fan fiction disguising as FF7, we got this stutter fest slop on pc
Max is a fuccing shill and a fake FF7 fan
Is this an amd thing? I have a 6900xt and it really stutters like crazy
Do people just not know how to set up their graphics settings? Every time a game comes out and it's just constantly: "IT'S STUTTERING" and it runs perfectly for me. I think people really need to learn how to adjust their settings properly.
Other than no ultra wide support my game on a i9 and 4070 super runs like a dream 🤷♂️
the night sky prince, that fool made it sound like the greatest thing ever
Screw the stutters and visuals not being great. I'm getting infinite loading and story events not even happening when they should be. Unplayable.
Speaking of ports, did you give up on your Bloodborne emulation video? I know you don't like the game but you DID say that the video was happening almost 6 months ago.
I'm still in Chapter 1 and I've been encountering issues. I'm on aging hardware though, literally bare minimum for 1080p60 so. That probably doesn't help matters. Hopefully when I get a new rig later this year between the beefier hardware and whatever patches that may have been put out my issues will be eliminated.
i have a 5900x and a 3080.... Why is none of what you're talking about in this video happening to me? Is having higher end components actually worse now?
Mine is stuttering too. Fixed some of it on my end but this isn't the best port like a lot of ppl saying it is.
The thing is FFXV is probably the main one that launched competently especially compared to the console versions.
The stutter only lasts until chapter 2 and maybe a little to the chocobo ranch. If it lasts any longer than that then it's a problem with your PC.
Im running an Nvidia 2070 super and i have had zero issues since being in the open world. I actually had more issues in the beggining of the intro but i switched to DLSS and have had no issues since
can u tell us what settings are u using? i have 2060 super and its driving me insane
I blame the ponies.....lol😂
should change the name to final fantasy 7 Restuttering LOL
If you don't have the suted equipment or the new driver you will have a stutter. With the latest drivers no stutter.
And Mr streamer this serious side of you without acid spitting on other consoles suits you so much better.
So I recently got FF16 on PC and I was getting stuttering, but only while using frame generation. I turned it off and locked the framerate at 60. I play the game on max settings, dlss quality at 1440p and the game is smooth as butter. Its PC, some of the tech just isn't there. Just because it stutters with the settings you are using doesn't mean you can't fix it lol.
Do you have any tips for good setting for an rog ally z1x.?
Thanks for the analysis Alex
using a 4090 with everything maxed i do see some stuttering here and there, what i've done is run Rebirth with a program on Steam called Lossless Scaling, allows me to double~quadruple my framerate, it looks MUCH nicer that way although i prefer to stick with the double framerate to avoid the wierd effects from the AI.
Zero encounter with stutter. Maxwd out setting. 4k@120fps.
I9-14900k, 4070ti, 96gb ram.
Same it’s been running, smooth as butter for me as well
Um how are you able to running 4K and hit 120fps on max setting with a 4070 ti I’m calling lies on this one
@@hakuwillreturn3226 I have a 4090 I can’t speak for the 4070 TI
No stutters on 4080 for me... but stutters are being reported on both card brands but AMD is apparently more apparent. AMD did release an optional driver for Rebirth but I don't if it helps.
Not really noticed much stutter personally, but I am using nvidia instead of amd, and true or not, from what I've read, microstutter is more common on amd... I am also using controller though, so that could also be why I've noticed it less.
I didnt think my GPU could run this game, but its been doing just fine at 60fps
My thing is that it will run quite well at 60fps for a while, and then the frame rate will just tank down to sub 30 and stay like that until I quit out of the entire application and start it back up. I'm on a mobile grade 2070 with a slight overclock provided by the new Nvidia app.
I really hope square enix will fix the performance issues with patches. The blurriness is a big issue for me. Also, the stutters from moving the camera around. Next there is terrible performance in all towns and small farms. CPU usage is low in towns but GPU is hovering between 90-99% usage but then back down to 70% or less, once I leave the town or small farm.
Everyone complaining about unstable 120fps. Has anyone tried locking it to 90fps? Just sounds like the game is not able to run at max settings with 120fps.
I have been playing for 7 hours and did not experience any of these stutters that I have been hearing about.
I have it on Rog Ally.
Everything set low. AFMF 2, RSR upscaling 720p to 1080p. 30W
I get a solid 30fps but with the mentioned stutter.
At the moment, I'm honestly just grateful I don't need a ps5.
Now I know why this took so long, running it with DX11 and they don’t even have FSR3 as an option
How do you run it in DX11?
There should be no need for upscaling
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271there shouldn’t be , but it would be nice if it was an option
Native looks fine but if you want the generated frames FSR3 would offer use AFMF2 instead which works on this game if you are on a AMD Video Card. If not Nvidia on their end from my understanding will offer the same feature which generates frames without the game needing to be compatible in either some later driver or current driver. Have to activate this feature on your drivers software or through the overlay.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 dude for real
Wait, you mean to say that no hardware currently out can brute force the game into stability? The optimization is that bad?! As it’s not like you have basic or mid range hardware. You have high end hardware. A Ryzen 7 7700x and RX 7900XT is a potent combination after all. What brand do you have for your GPU? If I bought AMD, I’d go for a Sapphire card, with MSI and Gigabyte as secondary and tertiary options. As if I’m not mistaken, Sapphire is to AMD, what EVGA was to Nvidia.
Yoshi-P also lied in the months leading up to the XVI port, with many of the features he claimed to be present... not present. Everybody told us to trust him... well loved by the XIV community. Always take what corporations and these figureheads say with a big grain of salt. Even as a lover of JRPGs, Square Enix is on my blocklist as a PC gamer.
Maybe it's an AMD GPU issue haven't noticed the stutter on my 4090 system.
I have a 6900XT PC that I am eager to try the game on and see how it performs.
Neither AMD or Nvidia have released updated drivers that officially support the game either.
My rebirth runs buttery smooth at the highest graphical settings.
No performance issues here but it doesn’t look as good as I was expecting with all the settings maxed out. Also disappointing that they still don’t give 32:9 aspect ratio support
I’ve been doing some testing and here’s my conclusions. Running the game on a 4k LG C3 OLED (mentioning bc I think it’s helping with the res scaling) on a 7800x3d/7900xt system.
I’m not experiencing near the amount of stutters that you are but the worst performance I get is running 4k native, VRR selected for display sync technology. There are occasional dips into high 30s, low 40s when in Nidelhiem. But it’s mostly 60+ fps experience at high preset, TAA, and ultra background model detail (this setting almost eliminated all pop in). Gets as high as 80s to 90s in some areas. Setting the resolution scale to 66% actually looks really good on my tv. I have a theory that LGs tech is helping here bc it’s REALLY hard to tell the difference between native and 66% on my 4k tv. Performance drastically increases to 90-120 fps consistently. Some dips but nothing too jarring.
Actual preferred setting is 4k native, high preset, VRR, frame cap to 60, low fog, ultra background model detail, and turn on AFMF2. With the frame cap at 60, AFMF 2 locks my gps to 120. Frame rate stays locked to 120 too. Very smooth gameplay and almost all but eliminates the dips and looks exceptional. My frame graphs are SOLID. I wish I could post pics here to show, but imo if you have an AMD card, use afmf2 in this title along with capping at half your monitors refresh. Much more enjoyable experience.
tried playing it for a bit, but did get some bad stutter at the beginning when zack and cloud are in the crowd...im hearing some people say that situations like that only happen a little in the first chapter....and im hearing others saying perhaps all the shaders didnt download...which wouldnt surprise me since that shader download completed a little to quick for a game this size....
If you had the magic in the ps5's ssd, there would be no stutter.
I will also lie like the defenders in the comments and claim there is no stutter, despite video evidence. Since I didn't notice it on the imaginary copy I own, that means it's not there.
Expected results. Thank god 60 fps is good enough for me. I don't stutter and if I do, it's not noticeable to me.
I FUCKING KNEW THIS GAME WAS GONNA BE HELL ON DECK!
what u expect on a potato specs system?
Most deck reviewers say it’s fine with some compromises, but one random guy dissents and you knew it all along and everyone else is lying? lol
I mean...a homeless retard could have told you that.
@@Mr.Schneebly69 yes but "most deck reviewers" don't show specs. They just say "yeah it's fine"
@@theincrediblefella7984 99% of them show specs. Thats what these channels are built around lol
Steam Deck verified means nothing. Valve needs to curate benchmarks for the Deck and just show that instead.
Its a bare bones port, it has texture pop ins, low resolution shadows on textures that aren't too far away, and a ton of stutters. They should've added fsr 3.1 and intel xess. The worst thing is that it doesn't support dx11 so it can't stutter that often.
At one point DX11 have to go.
No stutters here, Running a 7800x3d and a 4090. Maxed everything and running super smooth.