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I would like a video about warbelts with no should straps. Alot of guys I know run once piece belts that they use primarily to shift some of the weight of the carrier or IOTV and put it on their hips.
That moment when the rangers had it right in the 90's. I love how we've come full circle pretty much; mission definitely dictates gear and warfare is definitely shifting
Watching this rig setup made me think we're back in 2009 or so. Like, wow, the new cool thing for gun community is just re-descovery of the PLCE/ALICE/M1957 type of gear. All what was considered cons (like enclosed pouches with velcro on, big yoke-style suspension, or getting into strap hell when wearing the belt kit over armor as opposed to having things molled on or in the backpack) are now pros. Interesting, huh? Great video btw
I switched my smersh butt pack for three swedish GP/canteen pouches (sweet missmatch camo right there) a long time ago and both rigs look awefully similar. Now I feel smart!
I've watched at least three videos on this system in the past couple of weeks. Funny how our old, back in the day system is coming back. I've always used this set up. and never changed. Why I go with a slick body armour system. It works with everything. And my Old school LBE/LBS system.
I was recon with the Airborne in Vicenza late 80's early 90's. A properly tricked out LBE was awesome. Comfortable, didn't overheat and it carried all the things you needed not in your ruck. Just makes sense with certain missions.
I was having this problem back in the mid 2000's when I was using and training with gear when it came to the belt systems.(I was new to kit.) My belt kept sliding down along with my pants. Then I meet two Military Vets who told me my belt loadout was too heavy so try the belt loadout with suspenders or lbe harness systems. Its what they used back then when they were both in the Military and it still works out for me to this day. Thanks Dave and Mark. Dave was a Panama Vet. Mark was a Canadian Combat Engineer.
Dude. Dream kit. Always preferred and loved this concept. Recently got a British PLCE kit and love it. This looks like an updated better version. Project Redacted also makes modern LBE with their bush series. They have a large butt pack like alice LBE.
I ran something similar to a heavy belt kit in 2019-2020 Iraq. I was a Cav Scout assigned as QRF when I deployed. Belt kits are definitely the bees knees.
We’ve never fallen out of love with full belt kits here in the U.K. “Fight Light” was a great idea, but never really worked when out patrolling for longer periods of time.
I'd like to also mention that carcajou tactical has belt kit too. So if you can't find a smersh and want belt kit but can't afford this or a jungle rig you can at least piece it together.
Some of the reason you're seeing belt kit in Ukraine is because the Ukrainian recruits are being trained in the UK by British instructors. The Brits' default setting is belt webbing for most Infantry tasks (and for good reason), and so this is how they have been training the recruits.
ENG Blue, I already have your belt kit, it's a combination of everything. 1. Belt Kit - more hiking, more food Condor MCR 6 Chest Rig, with 2 large Condor Shoulder Utility Bags that are attached to a TT Pouch 10 that are exactly 7 molle wide, the kit is for more. Can be coupled with the other belts. A lot of modularity 2. Belt Kit - additional carrying platform 6 Canteen Pouch Molle, all large for various things, hearing protection or binoculars or 5 magazines 556 in a Canteen Pouch. Can be coupled with the other belts. A lot of modularity 3. Belt Kit - The cooking set 2x 5.11 Pouches large with Edelstal Cantenn Bottle, Stanley Canteen Steel Bootle and Prathfinder Koch, Canteen Bottle in them on a thin TT Grütel Can be coupled with the other belts. A lot of modularity 4. Kit Chest Rig Plate Carrier - for Airsoften CQB - Patrollien short - security service And the Plate Carrier TT Anfibia without plates is connected to a Condor MCR 7 Ronin Chest Rig. So I run around with a lot but I don't have to carry everything, but it's very user-friendly, the LRRP principle is really a kind of gerillia that I like. = GER Blue, dein Belt Kit habe ich schon es ist eine Kombination aus allem. 1. Belt Kit - mehr Wandern, mehr Verpflegung Condor MCR 6 Chest Rig, mit 2 grossen Condor Shoulder Utility Bag die an eine TT Pouch 10 sind die genau 7 Molle breit sind, das Kit ist für mehr. Kann mit mit den anderen Belts Gekoppelt, verbunden werden. Sehr Viel Modularität 2. Belt Kit - zusätzliche Trageplattform 6 Canteen Pouch Molle, alles gross für verschiedene Dinge, Gehörschutz oder Fernglas oder 5 Magazine 556 in einer Canteen Pouch. Kann mit mit den anderen Belts Gekoppelt, verbunden werden. Sehr Viel Modularität 3. Belt Kit - Das Kochset 2x 5.11 Pouches grosse wo Edelstal Cantenn Bottle, Stanley Canteen Steel Bootle und Prathfinder Koch, Canteen Bottle drin sind an einem Dünnen TT Grütel Kann mit mit den anderen Belts Gekoppelt, verbunden werden. Sehr Viel Modularität 4. Kit Chest Rig Plate Carrier - für Airsoften CQB - Patrollien kurz - Wachdienst Und der Plate Carrier TT Anfibia ohne Platten ist mit einer Condor MCR 7 Ronin Chest Rig verbunden. Also ich lauf mit viel rum muss aber nicht alles tragen aber es ist sehr Anwendungsfreundlich, das Prinzip LRRP ist echt eine Art Gerillia, das mir zusagt.
You should try JayJays commanders webbing, staple belt kit for us British soldiers, well made comfortable and plenty of room for all the kit you’ll need in the field
I as an American Army Chaplain I have the commanders webbing. Instead of magazines though I have communion elements in them and instead of a commanders handbook I have religious texts for the field.
Both set ups are useful with in their given context. I would expect hostage rescue teams to be rocking the LBE Belt nor would I expect the line Infantryman in near peer warfare to be using a gun belt with a pistol. Everyone should own, train, and understand the limits of both a be proficient in either one.
Lol, that's literally how me and a lot of my bros ran when we were in 1st LAR. Having all of your mags on a warbelt slimed you down a lot allowing you to get in and out of the vehicle faster.
Brits love belt, you should try some of their tailor company's. Jay Jays of brecon, british tactical and dragon supplies all do decent stuff if your interested.
If you think you are going to need to wear a load bearing belt for multiple hours a day for extended periods of time, please get some form of suspender set up to preserve your lower back and hips from the damage you are doing. Any police officer can vouch for the absolute havoc weight on your hips causes without additional support from the shoulders. I'm well aware BJO is doing that, it's more for those high speed, low drag types who think suspenders are uncool.
Belt kit always seemed the way to go. All the high speed low drag guys on RUclips suddenly started loading everything on their chest for some reason. Me and the guys I shoot with never really could get into it
Would like to see you review the Vel Sys Jungle Belt. I like the LBV expander with the roll top enclosure, too bad no one makes other roll tops and the spiritus one is designed to work with their rig.
If you like these sorts of belt kits you should check out some of the stuff we have in the UK, Jay Jay's, Kitpimp and Dragon supplies have single handedly been providing the British Army with quality belt kits for a decade now, since the shit that the MOD hands out is either tattered ruins of the old PLCE webbing or the abomination that Virtus came out with
Ive been a huge fan and advocate of belt kit since 2017. What I dont understand about it is this emphasis on sustainment. How is there room. On my kit I have what I consider to be essentials. Mags (lots of them) 2 frags, dump pouch, 1L of water, IFAK, bayonet/knife, and admin pouch there's no room for anything else. A small assault pack is where more sustainment and snivel kit comes in imo.
I'd like to see something like this that could also hold plates. The Tasmanian Tiger mk2 chest rig is also a plate carrier, but not sure of the quality. I like chest rigs and load bearing kit like this, but wearing this alone without plates, all I keep thinking about is "what if I take one to the chest?". Then I'm happy with my carrier again.
If you are looking for a belt kit/webbing always shop British we have always ran them and most companies are run by people who have fought in them and have manufactured their kit accordingly
I think of open desert when i think of gwot. Id imagine vehicle insertion was more prevalent where as the urban warfare requires house to house and needing more variable equipment.
Try out the "Krydex" molle belts. $50 and i love it for my job. Im a corrections officer, so id say light duty compared to patrol LE or Mil, but its held up to running and going hands on with inmates very well. Comes with a cobra style buckle and its your typical 2 piece velcri belt and i believe they make a battle belt or whatever its called, the one piece belt you just throw on over everything. While i doubt it would hold up to really serious use like trench warfare, its held up greatly to my 2 years as a CO. Im upgrading to a blue alpha gear belt tho as im going to the academy to become a regular patrol officer and i want to make sure o use something i know 110% i can trust to take a beating if the need arises. But yea, check em out, great budget belt in my opinion and i think a lot more people should check em out. OH and when i first ordered mine they forgot to send the inner belt, customer service was incredible and overnighted it to me.
Bro, please tell your camera man to zoom in to the stuff your showing. When you were going over the tabs on the magazines, the freaking pouches were barely in the frame - same for the GP pouches.
Peace and happy holidays brother I have a question. Now I’ve asked this question and tried to read Reddit post to try and understand this topic but I’m still very lost. Here’s my question. What is a battle or go to war rifle? More specifically what constitutes a battle rifle? I’m not talking about accessories, scopes and rails and ammo. Like a simpler question could be what’s a liberal or what’s a sports car, or what’s makes a more comfortable mattress. I feel when I ask this question people go down crazy rabbit holes of preference and feelings. I’ve seen so many posts on AR15 & AK47 variants and been told all manner of things from RUclips personalizes and bloggers without them answering the fundamental question. Like when people say PSA or S&W or Springfield make good rifles but I won’t trust my life with it, what does that mean? They say things like these aren’t go to war rifles. My question has always been okay well what are? Like what determines this? Is it simply the manufacturing, materials & metallurgical, QA processes, gov, state & private contracts? Aside from the whole “these are full auto and those aren’t” aside from the “this is $5000.00 and that’s $1000” what sets them apart? Like I made a joke to my fiancé this morning that PSA has the SCAR in 6.5 creedmore on sale. It’s a $1500 off discount. So I joked with her that with the money we could save buying it on sale we could put the rest to the poor man’s version the JAKL. So being an auditor she smirked then asked me which one would the army buy and why is one better? I was stuck so I just made up some facts she probably isn’t gonna research. So I thought maybe someone like you could answer the question. I asked MAC this same question last year and he just replied “our ancestors went to war with just muskets”. Now I love the guy but I kinda felt even dumber for asking. So maybe you can help answer the question? What is a go to war or battle room rifle?
The silent tab isn't just for the mag pouches, and it's entirely up to you what you want to shove in the mag pouches anyway, so it isn't necessarily a reload operation. Some people just prefer to have a smoother pull over the extra "secureness" of the velcro, ultimately it doesn't change much, it probably makes the rig like 25 bucks more expensive.
I think LBEs are the ideal, been saying this for years. The problem with LBEs is that they go from like, a 25 dollar ALICE harness which works perfectly, even with Molle gear, to a 350-600 dollar pile of horse shit. And I mean no disrespect to this gear, I'm sure it works well, is comfortable, etc. but for real, it's a damn harness. The Crossfire DZ-Rig is a 350 dollar rig. A Velocity System jungle rig is a 600 dollar rig. Are these people high?
What material are the pouches made of? Helikon Tex makes AR/AK pouches that take both mags without a struggle. Why these tight tolerances here? Why no buttpack alternative to the permanently fixed Utility Pouches on back?
Because they modeled it off of the Brit style PLCE, which had 3-4 GP pouches often bungied together to form a shelf for their "Bergen" aka short ruck to ride on. The older PLCE in what they called "assault order" also had these two little cylinder shaped packs which carried more gear, kinda like 2 buttpacks that become an assault pack.
Not really a belt rig set-up, but I was kind of curious how/if someone could run the old South African M83 battle jacket/combat vest (aka the Mad Max vest) with a plate carrier (like the 5.11 TacTec or the Agilite K19, etc). Slick front or mag pouches?
Wouldn’t it interfere with a standard long ruck sack? Looks like you need a small pack that rises above the rear pouches of the belt. Also what happens with the rucksacks waist strap?
From experience those are things that need to be accounted for a gear adjusted so they merry up well. Big notes Alice ruck is perfect because it’s meant to be used with belt kit, if the ruck rests on to of the pouches it all works out because the belt acts as a waist strap.
Crossfire rucks are pretty short and I'm almost certain they designed this rig to be used in conjunction with them. It's british PLCE modernized, you use the pouches as a shelf and the beltkit acts as the waist belt.
With respect to opsec, could you do a video on the lbv vest Ranger Reg uses and how its setup? Again, not asking for you to divulge sensitive info but I'd rather listen to the Rangers on what kit is all purpose compared to anyone else.
@@ShibbyMcCleud looking at the pouches they could have sown the buckle to the pouch itself making one handed operation easier. It'll admit the crossfire one is better than most other offerings but the WAS one is cheaper and still high quality
@@merc741 Totally fair, I'm just reserving judgement till it gets in more hands. Also didn't even look at the buckles, I hate pouches that make one handed operation difficult. Those fixed/surface mount fastex buckles are fantastic. You got any idea where to find the WAS belt in the US?
Help out the less educated here, but why this set-up over a PC + small pack? Is it to move some of the load towards the hips as mentioned around the 6:55 mark more than anything else?
@@Dero_milsurp it wasn’t perfect but if look at what is being pushed out there. Belt kits that are so loaded up with the same thing Alice provided. The ability to carry the minimum items needed then supplement with a daypack for next level. I don’t see a regular guy not dealing with infantry combat needing a vest with armor. What ever you are doing you can get by with a harness supported belt kit. Chest rigs are just moving items up and vests do the same. It was a simple design that gave you what you needed. Just my old school opinion.
@@GoaTrex2531 Modern belt kit provides superior materials, superior system of attachment, superior quality, superior layering and superior distribution/comfort. You dont even sound like you were in a combat job. Old school is not always best. And in this case, definitely not.
@@Dero_milsurp I’m just saying for a set of gear that lasted 30 plus years it is fully capable of doing the job. Pick whatever you like. My job was radio operator in USMC Artillery. Desert Storm veteran if it matters.
Quick question around belt kits and such, could you wear an ANA tactical Alpha Rig with a backpannel (the one it has specifically for it) and also an smersh for ak??? How good do they fit or overlap and how conformtable are they? (also, same question but for skinny but tall people xd)
It will mostly work as long as the butt pack is low enough, the side pouches on the alpha rig sort of get covered up though. Neither were really meant to work with another chest rig but you could make it work if you had to.
Ive been trying to get my hands on a crossfire ruck for while since my issued ruck just keeps breaking, but i either have no money to spend for gear or its out of stock
*$350 dollar "TACTICAL" LBE* vs $25-$100 dollar ALICE/LBV88/SMERSH/PLCE God I hate the "tactical" industry so much. It's as bad as that new Spiritus Systems buttpack attachment to their split chestrig that gives you a single babies first buttpack pouch for an extra $180 dollars. Crossfire, like Spiritus make good products, but holy hell this pricing is as bad as my healthcare in terms of how much I'm getting R worded out of my money.
Smersh are often above 100 bucks now, all of them are heavier, bulkier, and absorb more water. Technology does move forward and the materials used by Crossfire are always topnotch. Shit just cost more. Saving 150-200 bucks more shouldn't be that much of a problem, just hold up on buying shit for a 2 months and you should get there with ease.
@@originalpastaman5470 if you think nothing in the Alice pack absorbs any water you're wrong. Weight your rig before and after being in the rain. Modern laminated corduras weigh less from the get go and increase in weight up to half as much as older cordura.
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Could you try out the nixieworks light fighter rig please?
Hey bro what kind of gloves are those ???????
I would like a video about warbelts with no should straps. Alot of guys I know run once piece belts that they use primarily to shift some of the weight of the carrier or IOTV and put it on their hips.
@@TALIZ0RAHyou have no idea what you’re saying
That moment when the rangers had it right in the 90's. I love how we've come full circle pretty much; mission definitely dictates gear and warfare is definitely shifting
The Russians never stopped utilizing this type of kit but that was mostly due to being poor
Rangers? You mean the Marine Corps.
@thomasrfoster4503 the seal marine rangers*
...also it doesn't matter cuz everything was invented by the rangers 😂
@@daconqueror101 Whatever you want to fool yourself into believing. All kidding aside I think I want this so I can larp.
90's era 0311 and this looks a lot like how I set up my gear back then.
So glad to see belt kit getting more love. Sustainment is the way to go for 95% of people
I love saying this because the guys who think they're gonna be doing MARSOC Raider shit always get super mad about it.
Not necessarily. Covert rigs are the first way to go for civilians
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I started buying into belt rigs when I ran my ALICE for a few airsoft games and loved it. Glad to see them become "trendy"
Watching this rig setup made me think we're back in 2009 or so. Like, wow, the new cool thing for gun community is just re-descovery of the PLCE/ALICE/M1957 type of gear. All what was considered cons (like enclosed pouches with velcro on, big yoke-style suspension, or getting into strap hell when wearing the belt kit over armor as opposed to having things molled on or in the backpack) are now pros. Interesting, huh? Great video btw
Careful they might get mad that they can't reload under 0.05 secs with that belt kit.
Societies create fads that go in and out. To avoid fads there is only one constant, autism.
@@CobraMustangonly until they realize their mags fell out while crawling through a briar patch two miles back.
Heavy battle belt kit is also great equipment for 1 or even 2 day hike (if coupled with small & minimalistic less than 20 L backpack).
This rig will definitely help me carry more of my FunkoPops out in the field, thanks!
But then they'll lose their heck'n value!
So we are back to usmc 90s war belts lol. Love to see it.
There ain't no school like Old School Kit.
I switched my smersh butt pack for three swedish GP/canteen pouches (sweet missmatch camo right there) a long time ago and both rigs look awefully similar. Now I feel smart!
I've watched at least three videos on this system in the past couple of weeks. Funny how our old, back in the day system is coming back. I've always used this set up. and never changed. Why I go with a slick body armour system. It works with everything. And my Old school LBE/LBS system.
I was recon with the Airborne in Vicenza late 80's early 90's. A properly tricked out LBE was awesome. Comfortable, didn't overheat and it carried all the things you needed not in your ruck. Just makes sense with certain missions.
I've been a jungle belt guy this entire time and I'm glad that people are finally learning about it.
I was all hot for plate carrier setups until my 1st deployment. I wore that bad boy for a month and moved all that weight to a belt ASAP.
I was having this problem back in the mid 2000's when I was using and training with gear when it came to the belt systems.(I was new to kit.)
My belt kept sliding down along with my pants. Then I meet two Military Vets who told me my belt loadout was too heavy so try the belt loadout with suspenders or lbe harness systems. Its what they used back then when they were both in the Military and it still works out for me to this day.
Thanks Dave and Mark.
Dave was a Panama Vet.
Mark was a Canadian Combat Engineer.
Dude. Dream kit. Always preferred and loved this concept. Recently got a British PLCE kit and love it. This looks like an updated better version. Project Redacted also makes modern LBE with their bush series. They have a large butt pack like alice LBE.
You should check warrior assault systems' version which is called "patrol belt kit"
I've had a cigura edc belt for 3 or 4 years now, I'm a big fan of their gear. Looking forward to get the battle wagon setup.
Tip for building your own beltkit: usgi molle canteen pouches can hold 4 ak or ar mags and you can sew velcro on for quicker closure of the pouch.
I ran something similar to a heavy belt kit in 2019-2020 Iraq. I was a Cav Scout assigned as QRF when I deployed. Belt kits are definitely the bees knees.
We’ve never fallen out of love with full belt kits here in the U.K. “Fight Light” was a great idea, but never really worked when out patrolling for longer periods of time.
I'd like to also mention that carcajou tactical has belt kit too. So if you can't find a smersh and want belt kit but can't afford this or a jungle rig you can at least piece it together.
hell yea! Shout out to Caracjou, great kit
Awesome 😎👍, maybe modern 75th Ranfer Regiment belt kit soon?😂
Something I'd like to see is a comparison between the new generation of LBV and something like a turkey vest
Some of the reason you're seeing belt kit in Ukraine is because the Ukrainian recruits are being trained in the UK by British instructors. The Brits' default setting is belt webbing for most Infantry tasks (and for good reason), and so this is how they have been training the recruits.
Got to pipe clamp a crappy flashlight straight to the bottom for full nostalgia.
Incandescent, D cell baby.
I love the idea of having one that isnt integrated with your carrier. Makes loudout swapping easier
Looks like a good setup for the DMR guy that expects to be in the prone a lot.👍
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Blue, I already have your belt kit, it's a combination of everything.
1. Belt Kit - more hiking, more food
Condor MCR 6 Chest Rig, with 2 large Condor Shoulder Utility Bags that are attached to a TT Pouch 10 that are exactly 7 molle wide, the kit is for more.
Can be coupled with the other belts. A lot of modularity
2. Belt Kit - additional carrying platform
6 Canteen Pouch Molle, all large for various things, hearing protection or binoculars or 5 magazines 556 in a Canteen Pouch.
Can be coupled with the other belts. A lot of modularity
3. Belt Kit - The cooking set
2x 5.11 Pouches large with Edelstal Cantenn Bottle, Stanley Canteen Steel Bootle and Prathfinder Koch, Canteen Bottle in them on a thin TT Grütel
Can be coupled with the other belts. A lot of modularity
4. Kit Chest Rig Plate Carrier - for Airsoften CQB - Patrollien short - security service
And the Plate Carrier TT Anfibia without plates is connected to a Condor MCR 7 Ronin Chest Rig.
So I run around with a lot but I don't have to carry everything, but it's very user-friendly, the LRRP principle is really a kind of gerillia that I like.
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Blue, dein Belt Kit habe ich schon es ist eine Kombination aus allem.
1. Belt Kit - mehr Wandern, mehr Verpflegung
Condor MCR 6 Chest Rig, mit 2 grossen Condor Shoulder Utility Bag die an eine TT Pouch 10 sind die genau 7 Molle breit sind, das Kit ist für mehr.
Kann mit mit den anderen Belts Gekoppelt, verbunden werden. Sehr Viel Modularität
2. Belt Kit - zusätzliche Trageplattform
6 Canteen Pouch Molle, alles gross für verschiedene Dinge, Gehörschutz oder Fernglas oder 5 Magazine 556 in einer Canteen Pouch.
Kann mit mit den anderen Belts Gekoppelt, verbunden werden. Sehr Viel Modularität
3. Belt Kit - Das Kochset
2x 5.11 Pouches grosse wo Edelstal Cantenn Bottle, Stanley Canteen Steel Bootle und Prathfinder Koch, Canteen Bottle drin sind an einem Dünnen TT Grütel
Kann mit mit den anderen Belts Gekoppelt, verbunden werden. Sehr Viel Modularität
4. Kit Chest Rig Plate Carrier - für Airsoften CQB - Patrollien kurz - Wachdienst
Und der Plate Carrier TT Anfibia ohne Platten ist mit einer Condor MCR 7 Ronin Chest Rig verbunden.
Also ich lauf mit viel rum muss aber nicht alles tragen aber es ist sehr Anwendungsfreundlich, das Prinzip LRRP ist echt eine Art Gerillia, das mir zusagt.
The Village People would be so proud of you.
You should try JayJays commanders webbing, staple belt kit for us British soldiers, well made comfortable and plenty of room for all the kit you’ll need in the field
I as an American Army Chaplain I have the commanders webbing. Instead of magazines though I have communion elements in them and instead of a commanders handbook I have religious texts for the field.
Love my Jungle Kit from Velocity. Puts the weight on my hips instead of my shoulders and leaves my chest feee making it easier to breathe.
Both set ups are useful with in their given context. I would expect hostage rescue teams to be rocking the LBE Belt nor would I expect the line Infantryman in near peer warfare to be using a gun belt with a pistol.
Everyone should own, train, and understand the limits of both a be proficient in either one.
Lol, that's literally how me and a lot of my bros ran when we were in 1st LAR.
Having all of your mags on a warbelt slimed you down a lot allowing you to get in and out of the vehicle faster.
Been using an Alice belt the whole time. Got made fun of, got praised, but never got disappointed.
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Brits love belt, you should try some of their tailor company's.
Jay Jays of brecon, british tactical and dragon supplies all do decent stuff if your interested.
If you think you are going to need to wear a load bearing belt for multiple hours a day for extended periods of time, please get some form of suspender set up to preserve your lower back and hips from the damage you are doing. Any police officer can vouch for the absolute havoc weight on your hips causes without additional support from the shoulders.
I'm well aware BJO is doing that, it's more for those high speed, low drag types who think suspenders are uncool.
Call me cheap, but I'm running an old lbe setup I've had for years and just recently put together my pc. Sustainment is life.
Your pc with mag pouches or slick?
@@Crackshotsteph my pc has 3 mag pouches on the front and one on the left side. All in all I got 10 mags on me. 11 in the ar.
@@dBilb2691Nice.
Waiting for it to get back in stock for a few weeks now. :) This in combination with my Nixieworks rig should fit multiple roles.
It hasn’t been released yet. The website shows that it’s soon.
Well articulated differentiation.
S.O Tech has a nice thin carrier that gets worn under the plate carrier. Makes a lot of sense.
I ran the IDF Airborne rig with British PLCE water bottle pouches. Still a good unitized rig, IMO.
Belt kit always seemed the way to go. All the high speed low drag guys on RUclips suddenly started loading everything on their chest for some reason. Me and the guys I shoot with never really could get into it
Would like to see you review the Vel Sys Jungle Belt. I like the LBV expander with the roll top enclosure, too bad no one makes other roll tops and the spiritus one is designed to work with their rig.
I can’t wait until this is in stock. Their packs are tier 1 kit.
If you like these sorts of belt kits you should check out some of the stuff we have in the UK, Jay Jay's, Kitpimp and Dragon supplies have single handedly been providing the British Army with quality belt kits for a decade now, since the shit that the MOD hands out is either tattered ruins of the old PLCE webbing or the abomination that Virtus came out with
Ive been a huge fan and advocate of belt kit since 2017. What I dont understand about it is this emphasis on sustainment. How is there room. On my kit I have what I consider to be essentials. Mags (lots of them) 2 frags, dump pouch, 1L of water, IFAK, bayonet/knife, and admin pouch there's no room for anything else. A small assault pack is where more sustainment and snivel kit comes in imo.
i run a warrior assault systems frag belt set up, it costs about 250 with all of the pouches, and you could also put level iiia soft armor in the belt
Great, I'm now old enough to see baggy jeans and belt rigs come back into fashion.
Do I need one no. Do I want one yes. Dammit bluejean please explain to my wife why we need this now
I've been a 13F for 18 years. I normally use a belt kit. Because... my chest rig-plate carrier is occupied with binos Como maps ect.
I'd like to see something like this that could also hold plates. The Tasmanian Tiger mk2 chest rig is also a plate carrier, but not sure of the quality.
I like chest rigs and load bearing kit like this, but wearing this alone without plates, all I keep thinking about is "what if I take one to the chest?". Then I'm happy with my carrier again.
I have a 782 gear belt and H harness that i might take out and build this off of.
What mission dose not call for explosives. You rock the Alice pack? That’s more my timeframe.
If you are looking for a belt kit/webbing always shop British we have always ran them and most companies are run by people who have fought in them and have manufactured their kit accordingly
I'm kind of going dual use for my airsoft and live use. I like Russian LBG. And if I can use it in both thats fine by me..
I can totally see running a belt system, chest rig and a backpack filled with more mags haha carry more then 20 magazines
I think of open desert when i think of gwot. Id imagine vehicle insertion was more prevalent where as the urban warfare requires house to house and needing more variable equipment.
Try out the "Krydex" molle belts. $50 and i love it for my job. Im a corrections officer, so id say light duty compared to patrol LE or Mil, but its held up to running and going hands on with inmates very well. Comes with a cobra style buckle and its your typical 2 piece velcri belt and i believe they make a battle belt or whatever its called, the one piece belt you just throw on over everything.
While i doubt it would hold up to really serious use like trench warfare, its held up greatly to my 2 years as a CO. Im upgrading to a blue alpha gear belt tho as im going to the academy to become a regular patrol officer and i want to make sure o use something i know 110% i can trust to take a beating if the need arises.
But yea, check em out, great budget belt in my opinion and i think a lot more people should check em out.
OH and when i first ordered mine they forgot to send the inner belt, customer service was incredible and overnighted it to me.
Bro, please tell your camera man to zoom in to the stuff your showing. When you were going over the tabs on the magazines, the freaking pouches were barely in the frame - same for the GP pouches.
lets go, the smersh at home
Is Crossfire giving a date for release on the D-Z? I've been waiting for it, super excited.
It's slated for Q4 2023 or Q1 2024.
I dont won't to disappoint you. But even imperial guard loadout is battle belt with all gear. And just with simple armor and shoulder armor.
Go breakout and break down of the different combat carrying loads, etc.
Peace and happy holidays brother I have a question. Now I’ve asked this question and tried to read Reddit post to try and understand this topic but I’m still very lost. Here’s my question.
What is a battle or go to war rifle? More specifically what constitutes a battle rifle? I’m not talking about accessories, scopes and rails and ammo. Like a simpler question could be what’s a liberal or what’s a sports car, or what’s makes a more comfortable mattress. I feel when I ask this question people go down crazy rabbit holes of preference and feelings. I’ve seen so many posts on AR15 & AK47 variants and been told all manner of things from RUclips personalizes and bloggers without them answering the fundamental question. Like when people say PSA or S&W or Springfield make good rifles but I won’t trust my life with it, what does that mean? They say things like these aren’t go to war rifles. My question has always been okay well what are? Like what determines this? Is it simply the manufacturing, materials & metallurgical, QA processes, gov, state & private contracts? Aside from the whole “these are full auto and those aren’t” aside from the “this is $5000.00 and that’s $1000” what sets them apart? Like I made a joke to my fiancé this morning that PSA has the SCAR in 6.5 creedmore on sale. It’s a $1500 off discount. So I joked with her that with the money we could save buying it on sale we could put the rest to the poor man’s version the JAKL. So being an auditor she smirked then asked me which one would the army buy and why is one better? I was stuck so I just made up some facts she probably isn’t gonna research. So I thought maybe someone like you could answer the question. I asked MAC this same question last year and he just replied “our ancestors went to war with just muskets”. Now I love the guy but I kinda felt even dumber for asking. So maybe you can help answer the question? What is a go to war or battle room rifle?
Looks like a pretty legit rig
I dont really get the need for silent mag pouches. I figure if a reload needs to happen the whole stealth jig is pretty much up.
The silent tab isn't just for the mag pouches, and it's entirely up to you what you want to shove in the mag pouches anyway, so it isn't necessarily a reload operation. Some people just prefer to have a smoother pull over the extra "secureness" of the velcro, ultimately it doesn't change much, it probably makes the rig like 25 bucks more expensive.
I think LBEs are the ideal, been saying this for years. The problem with LBEs is that they go from like, a 25 dollar ALICE harness which works perfectly, even with Molle gear, to a 350-600 dollar pile of horse shit. And I mean no disrespect to this gear, I'm sure it works well, is comfortable, etc. but for real, it's a damn harness. The Crossfire DZ-Rig is a 350 dollar rig. A Velocity System jungle rig is a 600 dollar rig.
Are these people high?
desert tiger stripe my beloved 🩷
What material are the pouches made of?
Helikon Tex makes AR/AK pouches that take both mags without a struggle. Why these tight tolerances here?
Why no buttpack alternative to the permanently fixed Utility Pouches on back?
Because they modeled it off of the Brit style PLCE, which had 3-4 GP pouches often bungied together to form a shelf for their "Bergen" aka short ruck to ride on.
The older PLCE in what they called "assault order" also had these two little cylinder shaped packs which carried more gear, kinda like 2 buttpacks that become an assault pack.
Not really a belt rig set-up, but I was kind of curious how/if someone could run the old South African M83 battle jacket/combat vest (aka the Mad Max vest) with a plate carrier (like the 5.11 TacTec or the Agilite K19, etc). Slick front or mag pouches?
I’ve tried it, it’s not comfortable even with slicks. The chest rig works better but it’d be best if you swapped it to an H harness instead of an X.
I’m guessing a pistol would be difficult to integrate on this thing?
Can't imagine laying that much for it
Speaking from experience. It's just componium
Wouldn’t it interfere with a standard long ruck sack? Looks like you need a small pack that rises above the rear pouches of the belt. Also what happens with the rucksacks waist strap?
From experience those are things that need to be accounted for a gear adjusted so they merry up well. Big notes Alice ruck is perfect because it’s meant to be used with belt kit, if the ruck rests on to of the pouches it all works out because the belt acts as a waist strap.
Pretty sure a company which specializes in packs have considered this.
Crossfire rucks are pretty short and I'm almost certain they designed this rig to be used in conjunction with them. It's british PLCE modernized, you use the pouches as a shelf and the beltkit acts as the waist belt.
@@troynittler5679 thank you! Opening my eyes to older school kit like this definitely not used to it appreciate the intel
@@ShibbyMcCleud gonna look into the brand more thanks!
2590 batteries for daaaays, bro
Very nice keep up the great content
With respect to opsec, could you do a video on the lbv vest Ranger Reg uses and how its setup? Again, not asking for you to divulge sensitive info but I'd rather listen to the Rangers on what kit is all purpose compared to anyone else.
deciding between the crossfire dz and a nixieworks belt. Tiger/golden tiger stripe is so in right now.
Ever decide?
@@kelvinkonkel3351 not yet
Warrior Assault Systems make a better webbing belt with fantastic pouches. I'd seriously check it out
You can't really say it's better until the DZ-rig has actually released. I'm not a crossfire fanboy, but damn bro cool your jets.
@@ShibbyMcCleud😂
@@ShibbyMcCleud looking at the pouches they could have sown the buckle to the pouch itself making one handed operation easier. It'll admit the crossfire one is better than most other offerings but the WAS one is cheaper and still high quality
@@merc741 Totally fair, I'm just reserving judgement till it gets in more hands. Also didn't even look at the buckles, I hate pouches that make one handed operation difficult. Those fixed/surface mount fastex buckles are fantastic. You got any idea where to find the WAS belt in the US?
When are they gonna drop?
Having pouches sewn on is a big no go for me. I'll stick with my old Canadian 1982 kit.
Help out the less educated here, but why this set-up over a PC + small pack? Is it to move some of the load towards the hips as mentioned around the 6:55 mark more than anything else?
I like my sso smerch. Very comfy.
Please review attackpak. I have been eyeballing it for a long time, but cant bring myself to click buy with so few reviews
Loved my issued USMC warbelt but when it was time to deploy I found myself in vehicles more often than not and it got in the way
Funny we used the 782 gear for like 3 or 4 decades.
Seeing how messed up you had your Smersh set up I'm not surprised you didn't like beltkits
check out the nixieworks LFR belt kit, looks cool
I know this vids a bit old, but you got a quick list of what you were wearing in that MSW picture at 4:28?
Love it bro open my mind thanks😮
So, this just looks like British PLCE albeit PALS compatible, no?
Velocity systems jungle kit?
Why do I get the idea that Alice gear was no so bad after all.
Alice itself sucks. Especially the mounting system.
@@Dero_milsurp it wasn’t perfect but if look at what is being pushed out there. Belt kits that are so loaded up with the same thing Alice provided. The ability to carry the minimum items needed then supplement with a daypack for next level. I don’t see a regular guy not dealing with infantry combat needing a vest with armor. What ever you are doing you can get by with a harness supported belt kit. Chest rigs are just moving items up and vests do the same. It was a simple design that gave you what you needed. Just my old school opinion.
@@GoaTrex2531 Modern belt kit provides superior materials, superior system of attachment, superior quality, superior layering and superior distribution/comfort. You dont even sound like you were in a combat job. Old school is not always best. And in this case, definitely not.
@@Dero_milsurp I’m just saying for a set of gear that lasted 30 plus years it is fully capable of doing the job. Pick whatever you like. My job was radio operator in USMC Artillery. Desert Storm veteran if it matters.
@@GoaTrex2531 gear is better now. More capable and better quality. Maybe you should try out new gear and youll realize how worse ALICE is now.
Quick question around belt kits and such, could you wear an ANA tactical Alpha Rig with a backpannel (the one it has specifically for it) and also an smersh for ak???
How good do they fit or overlap and how conformtable are they?
(also, same question but for skinny but tall people xd)
It will mostly work as long as the butt pack is low enough, the side pouches on the alpha rig sort of get covered up though. Neither were really meant to work with another chest rig but you could make it work if you had to.
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Ive been trying to get my hands on a crossfire ruck for while since my issued ruck just keeps breaking, but i either have no money to spend for gear or its out of stock
Modern British PLCE...
*$350 dollar "TACTICAL" LBE* vs $25-$100 dollar ALICE/LBV88/SMERSH/PLCE
God I hate the "tactical" industry so much. It's as bad as that new Spiritus Systems buttpack attachment to their split chestrig that gives you a single babies first buttpack pouch for an extra $180 dollars. Crossfire, like Spiritus make good products, but holy hell this pricing is as bad as my healthcare in terms of how much I'm getting R worded out of my money.
Smersh are often above 100 bucks now, all of them are heavier, bulkier, and absorb more water. Technology does move forward and the materials used by Crossfire are always topnotch. Shit just cost more. Saving 150-200 bucks more shouldn't be that much of a problem, just hold up on buying shit for a 2 months and you should get there with ease.
@@lucastonoli3256 Water resistance was achieved with nylon and even just canvas materials, both of which going back to before even ALICE.
@@originalpastaman5470 if you think nothing in the Alice pack absorbs any water you're wrong. Weight your rig before and after being in the rain. Modern laminated corduras weigh less from the get go and increase in weight up to half as much as older cordura.
@@lucastonoli3256You can also dip/rub the Canvans in a Wax coating that makes it water Resistant.
@@Spartan73799 Making an already heavier piece of fabric even heavier. But yeah, valid too.
My curiosity is mounting a pistol