Players: Theo why is everything in town shaped like a tower? Theo: As you exit “The Tower Inn” you make your way through town to the magic shop, which is in a tower!
lol out of excitement i imagine this being very true. although i can confirm theo/grady have an intense collection of minis, dressings and general 3d accoutrement
This looks awesome, but I'm not thrilled that the floors are cardboard... that being said, it would be nice if, late they put out some add-ons... different floor layouts, maybe a roof, or new floors all together!
Thanks for showing us this tower Goblin. My youngest son who is 7, said his character wanted a nice home of his own. His lengthy character back story involves his character wanting a home of his own that is easily defended since his family's village was raided. I think this would do nicely!
Thoughts while watching: 1-Holy cow that packaging is a lot bigger than I initially expected. 2-Looks very modular and easy to build, I'm glad they took that into consideration. 3-And I thought the packaging was big! 4-Two towers!!! I wish I had that kind of money. 5-Goodness that terrain looks great, and I keep getting surprised by the towers scale. 6-I can't run 250 dollars since I don't know if I have a tower fight coming up yet. But if the BBEG fight is in a tower.... 7-I do want one though.
Cardboard? Eh... That's a lot of money for something that's partly made of cardboard. That's not going to hold up well. They did that with their Ebberon ship to. It looked janky there. Everything else looks great though, so I never get why they go with the cardboard.
That's very impressive setting. It reminds me when in the DRAGON'S LAIR video game when the upper floor fell down and you had to jump or crash into the first floor. For 250 dollars, we can do that many times! tempting...
Love love love miniatures and all the environment terrain, buildings, and encampments they’re making. The only drawback is finding all the right scenarios to use them - I have ~600 minis and seldom use them. I have ideas though 😉
Yup! It's all about taking the tools/minis/terrain you have and crafting stories around them. (We do have the Fight Your Minis books on DMSGuild to help as well!) -T
Considering we haven't been getting any d&d stuff available since Theros here in Belgium, my wallet is really going to suffer once everything will suddenly come into stock
Oof! That’s how I originally pronounced it but I thought someone corrected me back in the day. I should have verified. Thank you! It’s a great project though! We’ll have a lot of coverage of it coming up! -Theo
Just want thank you for the reviews, trav and I have made quite a collection now based on your input. We are about a week away from the town square set to add a more robust and visually nice setting. So thank you guys!
Oh nice! Glad we could be of assistance! Hope we didn't hit your wallet too hard! But hopefully we could help you tell some awesome stories! Thank you! -Theo
The Wallet will survive! Lol bringing joy and memories while we can justify the cost of some things. Thank you guys again for all you do. Now to talk to my lgs about that tower they have sitting on a shelf muwa ha ha ha ha haaa. Ps pride kobalds are epic!!
It looks amazing however, they should have used plastic floors and included a set of battlements for the roof. The mage statues are fine for a wizard's tower but most towers would have battlements.
What a great terrain piece! So many possibilities... I love the base slots on the stairs. Curious choice to ring the roof with statues... I wish there was a standard crenulated option
05:38 maybe a bit off topic, but what battle/gaming mat is that? If I may ask... anyway great review! I saw this set on their new website recently and it reminds me of when the falling star ship came out. Still wanna pick that one up some day.
That is a map from Battle Systems. We received it along with their 3D papercraft buildings which we hope to review after we move, as they’re quite a thing to assemble and disassemble but do look really great!
Woweeee,a very enjoyable, expenses, nice wizkids Tower,I thought maybe I could use for Conan "Tower of the elephant"but with that kind of money,. It's going bro take me a long time to get it,.............maybe I'll try,just maybe,nice reviewed by the way, keep it up.....
Looks amazing! Im hoping for some caverns or outdoor tile sets from Wizkids, I know they're releasing their "Town Square" tile set that goes with the village tiles, but it would be great to have some caves or even some grass and outdoor terrain tiles!
Thanks for the review of this. I am seriously considering this piece. I do not necessarily mind the cardboard flooring. I do like that it is gridded. I find it useful for battles. Also thanks for using minis of varying sizes in the tower. It helped give me an idea of the interior size.
The tower is freaking amazing I bought 2 of them and u can stack them except for the xtra base but u still u can fudge it and it is stackable the only issue I hav is it has a plastic/ glass window dome on top and glass windows r not so prevalent in mid evil times but one of my spell effects from my spell effects box fits on top where the plastic glass dome is on top and makes more sense with the druids that are on top ,I'm gonna use the xtra base and top for a separate building / structure
This was exactly what I needed when curious about the tower, thank you! And may your move go well. The Strongholds & Followers appearance was wonderful, too.
It is pretty cool but you can get the Dwarven Forge Painted Watch Tower set for a little more money($286) and the quality and paint job is vastly better and pretty similar in size. $250 for a tower w/ cardboard floors and a "so so" paint job is a little crazy. I think wizkids is pricing this product a little too high. Their Yawning Portal set coming out in April looks amazing but it looks like it may have cardboard as well for $350. That's a really big investment for a product that may not hold up.
If we get our hands on that DF tower, we'll do a comparison. I don't know how often it comes back into stock. Unfortunately they don't have it at the moment. -T
Looks dope, but expensive as hell. If they release it unpainted, like the ship that would be more appealing i think. Not hyped that it is not compatible with Warlock Tiles.
I really think they missed the mark with this one. They should've made it more customizable. Ie. A basic 3 lvl tower. And sold separately additional lvls and different smaller sets to change up the look and layout. Also that money could go a lot further to making a campaign better than just a singular set piece (3d printer, many other minis, game sound packages, manuals.) And unfortunately no physical tabletop piece can capture the truly epic nature of the immense towers presented in dnd. Wish they wouldve put their efforts into other minis tbh.
I hope that the WarLock Tile system will enable them to make more customizable terrain going forward. Being able to slot things in with the dungeons, town sets, tower, bridge, etc would be extremely nice. -T
I really like the tower. Is it possible to combine with Dwarven Forge pieces to make a large walled keep or castle? Hopeful that Warlock tiles will have some compatible additions soon to expand it into a keep or castle as well.
100% my idea as well LOL Get the maximum use out of it. Have them fight to get it, then they take it with them wherever they go. Include some minor geas so they can't even sell it or ditch it. LOL
Having bought items like this before/3d printed also, the cardboard will eventually start warping as it is cardboard. You can be as careful as you can with it but subpar material, eventually you will have problems with it. The plastic has been shipped out warped in some cases therefore not fitting together. Item needs to be checked before being sent out at that price. Pieces missing and so forth also. Otherwise looks great but if I were to buy it I will certainly 3d print parts for it and make it that much better and fire the cardboard. Maybe look around and augment other items to it and print them too. In Canada that piece is running for almost $350 and I certainly will be shopping around.
Good advice! At least these days the 3D community is pretty good about helping to develop supplements and solutions to various 3D terrain problems. Thanks, Googler! -Theo
I've been waiting for this video ever since I noticed the tower was coming out. This video answered all my questions I had when I originally saw this set! Also what is the grassy mat you are using??
@@TheGallantGoblin Thanks! Just purchased both the gridded mats and the 6x4 caught my eye as well. The paper craft looks great, I look forward to seeing your review! :)
Massive and astonishing !!! I have a question though: Wizkids' WarLock and Dwarven Forge's floor tiles have the same height? I have the impression that, juxtaposed to each other, you spot a little gap since Wizkid's tiles are lower and that is going to create a visible "step" between the two sets. I am a great supporter of dungeon sets in Italy and Spain, and I would appreciate a clarification to my doubts ^_^ thanks, good job and stay safe!
Hi Gabriele! Yes, the WarLock tiles are a few milimeters shorter than Dwarven Forge. The warlock tiles are about 3/4 of the height of DF. So there will be a tiny step there, but it may be small enough to ignore or to incorporate into your description if the characters are moving from one section of a dungeon to another. Thanks for the question! -Theo
Do you think that this playset would work well (as in 'scale well') with 2-inch tall action figures? Like the ones used in Mega Construx sets, such as Halo, Call of Duty, or Masters of the Universe (MOTU). I would like to try to use the Tower with the MOTU figures from Mega.
It’s a very subjective thing. Those figures would be about 80% bigger than the ones the tower was made for. To me, that seems mostly fine but I don’t have any figures of that size to try it out sadly. -Theo
I feel for $250 there should be more options for variability. Why not include more cardboard floors so they all could be solid or have a whole in the middle and be either stone or wood for each? How about holes where the stairs are instead of printed stairs? Why not include some additional traditional battlements for the top of the tower so it doesn't always have to feature the wizards? These are simple things that could have made this set much more fun and versatile. Especially for $250.
I think the top of the tower bugs me, I feel like I would have liked it more if they were standard crenelations versus the statues. I also think that $250 is a pretty high price for something that has cardboard floors (I know that MSRP is probably not going to be the true price of the product) but I wouldn't spend more then like $150 - $180 on something like that personally. For $400 (only $150 more then the MSRP of this tower) I can get a DF tower painted (albeit a bit smaller, but still a tower at 28mm scale).
Sometimes these sets do go on sale. The Falling Star ship did, so keep an eye out for that. I'll post sales on our Twitter feed when I catch them. The problem with those Dwarves Forge sets is that they're always out of stock. I'll try to post about their restocks on Twitter too so folks can catch them before they sell out again. -T
That thing looks very cool, but at that big price point, why should any part of it be cardboard? If it was about 100 bucks cheaper, the cardboard would not be a concern.
I've been looking around for a while, and do you know where to find a 4x4 or higher base for a big mini? I know they come with the miniatures on top of them, but I can't figure out how to get one individually. Thanks!
We don’t rebase our minis often so don’t have experience doing that ourselves. The only product listing we can find is this one for a colossal 6-inch base www.amazon.com/Base-inch-Circular-COLOSSAL-figure/dp/B0785HB981
The epix haven freestanding or corner towers are about an inch and a half shorter than this tower. Also the diameter is less. This tower is bigger for sure compared to epix haven. Epix was neat stuff but good gamers don't necessarily make good business people.
Might have issed it - but height and width? I'm assuming from 4" high staircases thats a foot tall minus roof, but knowing diameter helps visualise on my table
I don't have the tower on me to check unfortunately. In the middle of a move. You mean the wall pieces? You may be able to check in the video where I'm constructing the tower. I try to show each of the pieces. If you can't figure it out, I can try to get back to you when I unpack it again. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin yeah the wall pieces. Have been waiting to hear back from wizkids on it but nothing yet. just frustrated I have 2/3 of an awesome tower. Three side pieces line up but the fourth doesn’t. Feel like I just got three of the same pieces by accident.
@@andrewmacdonald3593 I once had a missing piece for the Falling Star ship. Wizkids was able to send me a replacement. I imagine there was a mistake in packing yours, as it should be fairly obvious how to slot them together if you got the right pieces . Hopefully they'll hook you up quickly with a replacement now that the holidays are almost over. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin I watched this video when it first came out and maybe I"ll watch it again because I seem to recall the landing on top being a separate piece and thought maybe 2 of the levels could be used in a stacking situation
Shame they put such unique features like the figures for crenellation. It should have been more generic with options to customize...like more realistic crenellation which could be traded out for optional figure-crenellation. It could even be sold separately. Wizkids could have made the actual tower a bit cheaper, increasing sales, and made more money offer extra customizable parts...even having parts to create the towers from those modules cited in the video.
I had similar feelings about the war machine for Avernus. I think we'll see more options for customization from Wizkids in the WarLock Tile sets, but I would love them to offer things like the Tower with a few additional options as you say. -Theo
While reasonably nice...that price mixed with cardboard is a massive "nope" from me. The WarLock stuff has thus far been pretty solid looking...but this is a massive miss.
Honestly, as sad as it is that I have to say it, this is a cool tower, but WAY too pricy and too specific to be useful. Dont get me wrong, there are uses for it and it looks great, but its a hard ask for 250$. Sure, its a bit adaptable, but only the full setup looks right. So it isn't really customizable, its more or less just able to not look completely bad, if not assembled fully. And the issue is, it doesn't look like any tower seen in an adventure. Van Richtens tower looks very different, the tower of Tsolenka pass looks somewhat similiar but still different, the ruined tower in storm kings thunder? Also different. Basicly, this probably will only serve as a tower in your own campaign and not in a module or for an encounter you planned in a pre-written adventure that isn't part of said pre-written adventures regular story. It looks too specific to be some generic tower and I could continue the misery until the end of days. This is pretty much a very expensive set piece, with one big flaw: Its way too big for a standard encounter. Even if I remove the wizard statues, even if I rearrange stuff, thats still a massive circular tower, that is rather distinct. It cant really stand in for some old tower on the road. Thats a landmark people know stuff about. Is it cool to have? Sure. But its also great to own a bunch of dungeon tiles and build my own tower in the dimensions I wish it to be in. What if I want a 4 sided tower? What if I want a different roof? This is basicly a set in stone setpiece. That bridge is very modular, but this? This is just one big tower, with not much you can do. For 250$, that simply isn't enough for me. I mean, thats a ton of cash, for a cheaply made tower, all in grey, without actual resin floors or real stairs. This isn't handpainted, this isn't very elaborate in colour. I love the design, but 250$ is way too much for what you get. Icons of the realms is always expensive, but if I can get a full case of minis, for only twice the price, I'll take the 80+ miniatures, I'll regularly use. For example, rather than buying this to have a somewhat similiar looking set piece for Curse of Strahd, I can just buy all the NPC minis that are on the market for this campaign for less. Same company, better way to spend the money. Or how about buying the warlock tiles set, with rounds. I can just build myself the floors I need - paid about half the price and can give it any shape I want. See the issue? This is an awesome wizards tower, I can see 10 different campaign ideas just centered around it! But for that much money, thats a hard ask. I mean, I can buy 5 campaign books for that. Or about 25 unpainted miniature-packs from wizkids, each usually containing 2 minis. Thats 50 minis! To warrant such a buy, I'd need to make a campaign, that has my players regularly visit this tower. Maybe its their home base? Maybe its a magical library and the parties wizard is friends with the librarian who turns out to be the BBEG? 250$ is too much to ask, even if thats my end fight map. I couldn't bring myself to pay so much money, for something I can easily 3d-print much better and for a lot less money. Especially if its just for one fight. Its absurd. Also, storage is a huge issue with this. Thats a big box. You cant have that just lieing around. And out of the bkx the tower is too big and it would get dusty. Its overall impractical. In conclusion: For this thing to be worth the cost, you'd need to use it a ton. And the awe is lost pretty soon, if it is brought to the table often. I think they should have tone a smaller, more generic, tower for about 50$ to 60$. But this? This is just obscene. So as much as I like the product, I cant recommend it for that price. 80$ to 100$ would be fine for it though.
Looks almost exactly like my tower from Games Workshop, that one is all plastic and costs no more than about $80. I like the Wizkids models but way to expensive.
I own a ton of games workshop terrain. Witchfate Tor is not even close to the size of this tower and its among the beefiest games workshop terrain. I love games workshop but this is much bigger than any of my warhammer terrain, by far.
Wow 249.99 usd! Stoopid expensive for cardboard floors...You can get some nice towers off Etsy for a third of that price... with no cardboard floors. It’s nice don’t get me wrong but that price and cardboard floors means it’s a hard pass for me!
I have been collecting WizKids miniatures for a few years and have almost every dungeons and dragons / pathfinder miniature they have released including the fallen star ship and bridge set. This tower is a huge letdown. The circle of mages top looks wonky and out of place, it also makes the tower unique so it would be hard to reuse for other locations. I have all the Wizkids 4d terrain systems but this is one I'll have to pass on and go with dwarven forge instead.
Understandable. I would like these big sets to be as versatile as possible too. We'll see how they handle future big sets as they really transition into the WarLock Tiles system. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin I broke down and bought the tower. I hope WizKids will eventually release more sets that work with the tower to make it more unique.
$200? That's not too bad with all the use it could provide , at first basically I thought I was going to get PTSD U.S.S. Flag memories from my childhood.
Ive got all the new dragons so far (and most of the rest are already pre-ordered). I've bought the Falling Star Sailing Ship and the Eberron Sky Coach. Have an entire case of Fangs and Talons pre-ordered... so Im not just being a miser when I say this tower is overpriced and I'll be passing on this. Sad, because I was really excited about it when I saw the prototype images almost a year ago. Not even mad about the cardboard floors, but it just looks tacky and cheap. Castle Greyskull from the 80s had a better paintjob than this does and was way more sturdy. This thing, on the other hand, kept coming apart as Theo was trying to assemble it and it kept looking like it would fall apart again if not moved super securely. For THAT price tag ($250 MSRP), I expected a WAY better paint job and more heft and weight. Everything wobbled and again... that paint job is disgusting. Seeing it next to the Dwarven Forge really didnt do it any favors. The very simple DF dry-brushing looked 1000x better than Wizkid's spotty airbrush. They missed the mark on this in so many ways.
Thanks for commenting Shad! The goal here is to make sure you have the information you need to make a purchasing decision, so as long as we helped with that, I'm glad. We'll keep showing lots of different terrain options at different price points from different companies, and hopefully you can find something that works for you and your group! -T
@@TheGallantGoblin Im an avid fan of your videos. Nobody on RUclips presents the sets as well as you guys. The turntable and lighting are perfection for getting to see the quality of the pieces and I appreciate the occasional size comparisons for the bigger pieces. Furthermore, I LOVE the commentary when you do a set review. I appreciate the research you do, letting people know information about the creatures and their lore and abilities, as well as the books they appear in. Keep up the amazing work!
Hey thank you, Shad! I very much appreciate that! I’m glad you’re finding our videos to be fun and informative. We’ll keep striving to make them better and better! Thanks so much for your support! -T
Players: Theo why is everything in town shaped like a tower?
Theo: As you exit “The Tower Inn” you make your way through town to the magic shop, which is in a tower!
lol out of excitement i imagine this being very true. although i can confirm theo/grady have an intense collection of minis, dressings and general 3d accoutrement
Ha!
Welcome to tower town, yes... we know!
This looks awesome, but I'm not thrilled that the floors are cardboard... that being said, it would be nice if, late they put out some add-ons... different floor layouts, maybe a roof, or new floors all together!
Yes, I would definitely purchase an expansion pack with different options for floors, battlements, doors etc
Thanks for showing us this tower Goblin. My youngest son who is 7, said his character wanted a nice home of his own. His lengthy character back story involves his character wanting a home of his own that is easily defended since his family's village was raided. I think this would do nicely!
That's awesome! I think he's going to love it! -T
Thoughts while watching:
1-Holy cow that packaging is a lot bigger than I initially expected.
2-Looks very modular and easy to build, I'm glad they took that into consideration.
3-And I thought the packaging was big!
4-Two towers!!! I wish I had that kind of money.
5-Goodness that terrain looks great, and I keep getting surprised by the towers scale.
6-I can't run 250 dollars since I don't know if I have a tower fight coming up yet. But if the BBEG fight is in a tower....
7-I do want one though.
And what's really great is, this can double as a mold to make a sponge cake... quadruple layered!
Cardboard? Eh... That's a lot of money for something that's partly made of cardboard. That's not going to hold up well. They did that with their Ebberon ship to. It looked janky there. Everything else looks great though, so I never get why they go with the cardboard.
That's the reason I never bothered getting the ship. If I want it to look like cardboard, I would make it with cardboard.
The wiz kids line is very hit or miss. Usually anything big and expensive is trash and the bread n butter lines are solid gold
It rather nice would expected more from it though given its hefty price. Great review thanks guys
Thanks for watching! -T
For half the price you get the battlesystems castle
That's very impressive setting. It reminds me when in the DRAGON'S LAIR video game when the upper floor fell down and you had to jump or crash into the first floor. For 250 dollars, we can do that many times! tempting...
Love love love miniatures and all the environment terrain, buildings, and encampments they’re making. The only drawback is finding all the right scenarios to use them - I have ~600 minis and seldom use them. I have ideas though 😉
Yup! It's all about taking the tools/minis/terrain you have and crafting stories around them. (We do have the Fight Your Minis books on DMSGuild to help as well!) -T
Considering we haven't been getting any d&d stuff available since Theros here in Belgium, my wallet is really going to suffer once everything will suddenly come into stock
Start saving now!
i hear you, from belgium too and not even the Warlock EZ clips are available here...seems everything is on backorder
Hi, I'm Filipino, Sina Una is pronounced seena oona. It means ancient or of old. I'm so happy that you are promoting it. Thank you :)
Oof! That’s how I originally pronounced it but I thought someone corrected me back in the day. I should have verified. Thank you! It’s a great project though! We’ll have a lot of coverage of it coming up! -Theo
Just want thank you for the reviews, trav and I have made quite a collection now based on your input. We are about a week away from the town square set to add a more robust and visually nice setting. So thank you guys!
Oh nice! Glad we could be of assistance! Hope we didn't hit your wallet too hard! But hopefully we could help you tell some awesome stories! Thank you! -Theo
The Wallet will survive! Lol bringing joy and memories while we can justify the cost of some things. Thank you guys again for all you do. Now to talk to my lgs about that tower they have sitting on a shelf muwa ha ha ha ha haaa. Ps pride kobalds are epic!!
It looks amazing however, they should have used plastic floors and included a set of battlements for the roof. The mage statues are fine for a wizard's tower but most towers would have battlements.
Would be neat to see some new attachments for it. -T
I mean, that is freaking awesome, I wish I had the space for such a fantastic piece.
I'm glad it breaks down to make storage somewhat easier, but it is a really big set! -T
I need the tower.. drool.. so jealous
It looks really great !!
What a great terrain piece! So many possibilities... I love the base slots on the stairs. Curious choice to ring the roof with statues... I wish there was a standard crenulated option
05:38 maybe a bit off topic, but what battle/gaming mat is that? If I may ask... anyway great review! I saw this set on their new website recently and it reminds me of when the falling star ship came out. Still wanna pick that one up some day.
That is a map from Battle Systems. We received it along with their 3D papercraft buildings which we hope to review after we move, as they’re quite a thing to assemble and disassemble but do look really great!
@@TheGallantGoblin is the mat 2 x 2, or their 3 x 3 one?
HOLY COW THAT THING IS HUGE
the only thing i can say is WOW!!
Woweeee,a very enjoyable, expenses, nice wizkids Tower,I thought maybe I could use for Conan "Tower of the elephant"but with that kind of money,. It's going bro take me a long time to get it,.............maybe I'll try,just maybe,nice reviewed by the way, keep it up.....
Thank you, Ricardo! -T
Looks amazing! Im hoping for some caverns or outdoor tile sets from Wizkids, I know they're releasing their "Town Square" tile set that goes with the village tiles, but it would be great to have some caves or even some grass and outdoor terrain tiles!
I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more WarLock Tile sets in the coming years. They seem to be supporting the system really well. -T
Thanks for the review of this. I am seriously considering this piece. I do not necessarily mind the cardboard flooring. I do like that it is gridded. I find it useful for battles. Also thanks for using minis of varying sizes in the tower. It helped give me an idea of the interior size.
Glad you found the video useful, Matthew! I hope you enjoy the tower if you pick it up! -Theo
Been waiting to see this, thanks guys!
The tower is freaking amazing I bought 2 of them and u can stack them except for the xtra base but u still u can fudge it and it is stackable the only issue I hav is it has a plastic/ glass window dome on top and glass windows r not so prevalent in mid evil times but one of my spell effects from my spell effects box fits on top where the plastic glass dome is on top and makes more sense with the druids that are on top ,I'm gonna use the xtra base and top for a separate building / structure
This was exactly what I needed when curious about the tower, thank you! And may your move go well.
The Strongholds & Followers appearance was wonderful, too.
Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed the video! -Theo
It is pretty cool but you can get the Dwarven Forge Painted Watch Tower set for a little more money($286) and the quality and paint job is vastly better and pretty similar in size. $250 for a tower w/ cardboard floors and a "so so" paint job is a little crazy. I think wizkids is pricing this product a little too high. Their Yawning Portal set coming out in April looks amazing but it looks like it may have cardboard as well for $350. That's a really big investment for a product that may not hold up.
If we get our hands on that DF tower, we'll do a comparison. I don't know how often it comes back into stock. Unfortunately they don't have it at the moment. -T
I was pretty skeptical when I first saw this announced, but I'm pretty sold now!
Make warlock tiles that fit it, solved.
Looks nice, but not sure I’d get enough use out of it for the price. I got the ship, think that one will get plenty of uses.
It may not be for everyone. Just depends what kind of adventures you're running. :-) -T
Get an instant fortress. Now you camp in it, so any nighttime encounters use the tower.
I’d love to see some really large and epic siege weapons. Towers, Trebuchets, catapults and the like
Your in luck because wizkids has some coming out, look under wizkids miniatures on minisgallery.com
Yes, those are coming soon! -T
Looks dope, but expensive as hell. If they release it unpainted, like the ship that would be more appealing i think. Not hyped that it is not compatible with Warlock Tiles.
*Peeping through the window*
Barry Mannisnow: “geeeh”
(Lowkey think that was the best shot we've every had on the channel.) -T
Great review. Thanks for the detailed look!
Thank you kindly! -T
I really think they missed the mark with this one. They should've made it more customizable. Ie. A basic 3 lvl tower. And sold separately additional lvls and different smaller sets to change up the look and layout. Also that money could go a lot further to making a campaign better than just a singular set piece (3d printer, many other minis, game sound packages, manuals.) And unfortunately no physical tabletop piece can capture the truly epic nature of the immense towers presented in dnd. Wish they wouldve put their efforts into other minis tbh.
I hope that the WarLock Tile system will enable them to make more customizable terrain going forward. Being able to slot things in with the dungeons, town sets, tower, bridge, etc would be extremely nice. -T
Buy two and you have more floors.
I really cant wait to get this along with my warlock tiles full height walls!
Huzzah, great job sir.
Thank you kindly! -T
It looks awesome!
It’s super cool! -Theo
I really like the tower. Is it possible to combine with Dwarven Forge pieces to make a large walled keep or castle? Hopeful that Warlock tiles will have some compatible additions soon to expand it into a keep or castle as well.
RIP Papa Yeti, just wanted to protect his family.
Daelin's Instant tower, magic item
100% my idea as well LOL Get the maximum use out of it. Have them fight to get it, then they take it with them wherever they go. Include some minor geas so they can't even sell it or ditch it. LOL
If you win the lottery, you can build a thirty storey tower!!! Woo Hoo!!!
What is that adorable dragon in the intro? It is so cute. Also, I have put the tower on my wish list. It is great
That’s the Funko for Aurene, who is a dragon from the MMO video game Guild Wars 2. -Grady
Having bought items like this before/3d printed also, the cardboard will eventually start warping as it is cardboard. You can be as careful as you can with it but subpar material, eventually you will have problems with it. The plastic has been shipped out warped in some cases therefore not fitting together. Item needs to be checked before being sent out at that price. Pieces missing and so forth also. Otherwise looks great but if I were to buy it I will certainly 3d print parts for it and make it that much better and fire the cardboard. Maybe look around and augment other items to it and print them too. In Canada that piece is running for almost $350 and I certainly will be shopping around.
Good advice! At least these days the 3D community is pretty good about helping to develop supplements and solutions to various 3D terrain problems. Thanks, Googler! -Theo
That can be used for a Daern's instant fortress magic item
Oh true! -Theo
I've literally been stalking this item until it's release. It's perfect for my wizard and I want it super bad
Excellent! Be sure to mention it to Santa. You never know! -T
RIDICULOUSLY OVERPRICED at $250! I can make you a whole castle at that price.
Theo I was just going to complain that Barry wasn't on the tower ........ Lol I really need to watch the whole video before commenting lol!
I've been waiting for this video ever since I noticed the tower was coming out. This video answered all my questions I had when I originally saw this set!
Also what is the grassy mat you are using??
The grassy mat is made by Battle Systems! They also make great looking papercraft buildings that we hope to review soon!
@@TheGallantGoblin Thanks! Just purchased both the gridded mats and the 6x4 caught my eye as well. The paper craft looks great, I look forward to seeing your review! :)
Massive and astonishing
!!! I have a question though: Wizkids' WarLock and Dwarven Forge's floor tiles have the same
height? I have the impression that, juxtaposed to each other, you spot a little gap since Wizkid's tiles are lower and that is going to create a visible "step" between the two sets. I am a great supporter of dungeon sets in Italy and Spain, and I would appreciate a clarification to my doubts ^_^ thanks, good job and stay safe!
Hi Gabriele! Yes, the WarLock tiles are a few milimeters shorter than Dwarven Forge. The warlock tiles are about 3/4 of the height of DF. So there will be a tiny step there, but it may be small enough to ignore or to incorporate into your description if the characters are moving from one section of a dungeon to another. Thanks for the question! -Theo
Do you think that this playset would work well (as in 'scale well') with 2-inch tall action figures?
Like the ones used in Mega Construx sets, such as Halo, Call of Duty, or Masters of the Universe (MOTU). I would like to try to use the Tower with the MOTU figures from Mega.
It’s a very subjective thing. Those figures would be about 80% bigger than the ones the tower was made for. To me, that seems mostly fine but I don’t have any figures of that size to try it out sadly. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin
OK; thank you for your reply.
Good videos as always!
Need it
While this is super cool, I think including vital pieces made of cardboard with an item this expensive is unacceptable.
I feel for $250 there should be more options for variability. Why not include more cardboard floors so they all could be solid or have a whole in the middle and be either stone or wood for each? How about holes where the stairs are instead of printed stairs? Why not include some additional traditional battlements for the top of the tower so it doesn't always have to feature the wizards? These are simple things that could have made this set much more fun and versatile. Especially for $250.
Comments on the Arveiaturice video made me realize there were no reference cats in this video!
We'll work to remedy that going forward! :-) -Theo
Holy!!!
I think the top of the tower bugs me, I feel like I would have liked it more if they were standard crenelations versus the statues. I also think that $250 is a pretty high price for something that has cardboard floors (I know that MSRP is probably not going to be the true price of the product) but I wouldn't spend more then like $150 - $180 on something like that personally. For $400 (only $150 more then the MSRP of this tower) I can get a DF tower painted (albeit a bit smaller, but still a tower at 28mm scale).
Sometimes these sets do go on sale. The Falling Star ship did, so keep an eye out for that. I'll post sales on our Twitter feed when I catch them. The problem with those Dwarves Forge sets is that they're always out of stock. I'll try to post about their restocks on Twitter too so folks can catch them before they sell out again. -T
@@TheGallantGoblin Definitely agree!
Looks cool but at that price may as well stay with Dwarven Forge.
We'll have more reviews of Dwarven Forge soon as well! -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin Awesome! Looking forward to them!
Wow
Dont think I didnt see those crit role funko pops 👀
best review ever, When I got $400aud free I am going to buy one
Thanks, Michael! Hope you enjoy it! -T
That thing looks very cool, but at that big price point, why should any part of it be cardboard? If it was about 100 bucks cheaper, the cardboard would not be a concern.
Been waiting for this episode
calling it now....the next terrain wizkids does is a mindflayer ship
Wouldn’t that be something? Maybe they’ll hold out for Starfinder Battles for that one. -Theo
Nope it’s the yawning portal
www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2020/11/20/21575269/dungeons-dragons-yawning-portal-inn-terrain-scenery-wizkids-release-date-price
I've been looking around for a while, and do you know where to find a 4x4 or higher base for a big mini? I know they come with the miniatures on top of them, but I can't figure out how to get one individually. Thanks!
We don’t rebase our minis often so don’t have experience doing that ourselves. The only product listing we can find is this one for a colossal 6-inch base www.amazon.com/Base-inch-Circular-COLOSSAL-figure/dp/B0785HB981
Thank you so much! You're awesome!
this would be an easy thing to have 3d printed
That’s a great review, thanks for sharing! Seems like a really fun piece, but that price point is about $100 more than I was expecting. Yikes.
Thanks for watching! MSRP is often higher than what you'll see in the wild, so shop around and you might find it cheaper! -T
Here is what i heard - price : 1x 3d printer and roughly 4kg of filament :D
Heh, that's certainly an option! -T
a full castle ? or docks or caves?
How well does the walls lock together? Do they stay locked in place or do they fall apart?
I haven’t had any trouble with them falling apart, and I’ve been moving the tower back and forth around the house constantly. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin Thank you
I have the resin epix tower and the dwarves forge tower.. I'm wondering how this stacks up size wise with those. Its circumference looks larger?
Unfortunately I don't have those. I'll get the exact dimensions of the Wizkids Tower when I get home and update the video description with them. -T
The epix haven freestanding or corner towers are about an inch and a half shorter than this tower. Also the diameter is less. This tower is bigger for sure compared to epix haven. Epix was neat stuff but good gamers don't necessarily make good business people.
Tower could be good for Frostgrave.
True! -Theo
Might have issed it - but height and width? I'm assuming from 4" high staircases thats a foot tall minus roof, but knowing diameter helps visualise on my table
looks like only 8", counting squares (so many 10, allowing for wall thickness?
Do you know what pieces make up the third floor. I have three marked C1 and one marked C2 and the third level won’t fit together.
I don't have the tower on me to check unfortunately. In the middle of a move. You mean the wall pieces? You may be able to check in the video where I'm constructing the tower. I try to show each of the pieces. If you can't figure it out, I can try to get back to you when I unpack it again. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin yeah the wall pieces. Have been waiting to hear back from wizkids on it but nothing yet. just frustrated I have 2/3 of an awesome tower. Three side pieces line up but the fourth doesn’t. Feel like I just got three of the same pieces by accident.
@@andrewmacdonald3593 I once had a missing piece for the Falling Star ship. Wizkids was able to send me a replacement. I imagine there was a mistake in packing yours, as it should be fairly obvious how to slot them together if you got the right pieces . Hopefully they'll hook you up quickly with a replacement now that the holidays are almost over. -Theo
if I get more than one of these, can i stack them to make an even bigger tower?
The middle section stacks but I believe it would just be the middle layer, so two towers would get you one level higher.
@@TheGallantGoblin I watched this video when it first came out and maybe I"ll watch it again because I seem to recall the landing on top being a separate piece and thought maybe 2 of the levels could be used in a stacking situation
That's expensive, but pretty nice!
That should probably be the motto of this channel. -Theo
Take my money, and give me 3
Ha! For a three tower complex or for one really tall tower?? -T
Shame they put such unique features like the figures for crenellation. It should have been more generic with options to customize...like more realistic crenellation which could be traded out for optional figure-crenellation. It could even be sold separately. Wizkids could have made the actual tower a bit cheaper, increasing sales, and made more money offer extra customizable parts...even having parts to create the towers from those modules cited in the video.
I had similar feelings about the war machine for Avernus. I think we'll see more options for customization from Wizkids in the WarLock Tile sets, but I would love them to offer things like the Tower with a few additional options as you say. -Theo
While reasonably nice...that price mixed with cardboard is a massive "nope" from me. The WarLock stuff has thus far been pretty solid looking...but this is a massive miss.
Are the floors plastic or cardboard?
Cardboard
Just make one out of a five gallon bucket my dm's
Want want want.
Maybe I will find some one to play with me.
Lure them in with an awesome tower! -T
Beautiful. I would never spend that much. I would pay 100 for that... Wayyy too much
Well, we'll keep showing lots of options! Hopefully you'll find something that meets your needs! -Theo
Honestly, as sad as it is that I have to say it, this is a cool tower, but WAY too pricy and too specific to be useful.
Dont get me wrong, there are uses for it and it looks great, but its a hard ask for 250$. Sure, its a bit adaptable, but only the full setup looks right. So it isn't really customizable, its more or less just able to not look completely bad, if not assembled fully. And the issue is, it doesn't look like any tower seen in an adventure. Van Richtens tower looks very different, the tower of Tsolenka pass looks somewhat similiar but still different, the ruined tower in storm kings thunder? Also different. Basicly, this probably will only serve as a tower in your own campaign and not in a module or for an encounter you planned in a pre-written adventure that isn't part of said pre-written adventures regular story. It looks too specific to be some generic tower and I could continue the misery until the end of days. This is pretty much a very expensive set piece, with one big flaw: Its way too big for a standard encounter.
Even if I remove the wizard statues, even if I rearrange stuff, thats still a massive circular tower, that is rather distinct. It cant really stand in for some old tower on the road. Thats a landmark people know stuff about. Is it cool to have? Sure. But its also great to own a bunch of dungeon tiles and build my own tower in the dimensions I wish it to be in. What if I want a 4 sided tower? What if I want a different roof? This is basicly a set in stone setpiece. That bridge is very modular, but this? This is just one big tower, with not much you can do.
For 250$, that simply isn't enough for me. I mean, thats a ton of cash, for a cheaply made tower, all in grey, without actual resin floors or real stairs. This isn't handpainted, this isn't very elaborate in colour. I love the design, but 250$ is way too much for what you get. Icons of the realms is always expensive, but if I can get a full case of minis, for only twice the price, I'll take the 80+ miniatures, I'll regularly use. For example, rather than buying this to have a somewhat similiar looking set piece for Curse of Strahd, I can just buy all the NPC minis that are on the market for this campaign for less. Same company, better way to spend the money. Or how about buying the warlock tiles set, with rounds. I can just build myself the floors I need - paid about half the price and can give it any shape I want. See the issue?
This is an awesome wizards tower, I can see 10 different campaign ideas just centered around it! But for that much money, thats a hard ask. I mean, I can buy 5 campaign books for that. Or about 25 unpainted miniature-packs from wizkids, each usually containing 2 minis. Thats 50 minis! To warrant such a buy, I'd need to make a campaign, that has my players regularly visit this tower. Maybe its their home base? Maybe its a magical library and the parties wizard is friends with the librarian who turns out to be the BBEG? 250$ is too much to ask, even if thats my end fight map. I couldn't bring myself to pay so much money, for something I can easily 3d-print much better and for a lot less money. Especially if its just for one fight. Its absurd.
Also, storage is a huge issue with this. Thats a big box. You cant have that just lieing around. And out of the bkx the tower is too big and it would get dusty. Its overall impractical.
In conclusion: For this thing to be worth the cost, you'd need to use it a ton. And the awe is lost pretty soon, if it is brought to the table often. I think they should have tone a smaller, more generic, tower for about 50$ to 60$. But this? This is just obscene. So as much as I like the product, I cant recommend it for that price. 80$ to 100$ would be fine for it though.
Looks almost exactly like my tower from Games Workshop, that one is all plastic and costs no more than about $80. I like the Wizkids models but way to expensive.
I'll look it up! Thanks for the tip! -T
I own a ton of games workshop terrain. Witchfate Tor is not even close to the size of this tower and its among the beefiest games workshop terrain. I love games workshop but this is much bigger than any of my warhammer terrain, by far.
Wow 249.99 usd! Stoopid expensive for cardboard floors...You can get some nice towers off Etsy for a third of that price... with no cardboard floors. It’s nice don’t get me wrong but that price and cardboard floors means it’s a hard pass for me!
I'll have to go check out some of those Etsy towers! The more options the merrier! -Theo
Neat.... but its the same price as a 3d printer....
I have been collecting WizKids miniatures for a few years and have almost every dungeons and dragons / pathfinder miniature they have released including the fallen star ship and bridge set. This tower is a huge letdown. The circle of mages top looks wonky and out of place, it also makes the tower unique so it would be hard to reuse for other locations. I have all the Wizkids 4d terrain systems but this is one I'll have to pass on and go with dwarven forge instead.
Understandable. I would like these big sets to be as versatile as possible too. We'll see how they handle future big sets as they really transition into the WarLock Tiles system. -Theo
@@TheGallantGoblin I broke down and bought the tower. I hope WizKids will eventually release more sets that work with the tower to make it more unique.
$200? That's not too bad with all the use it could provide , at first basically I thought I was going to get PTSD U.S.S. Flag memories from my childhood.
Ive got all the new dragons so far (and most of the rest are already pre-ordered). I've bought the Falling Star Sailing Ship and the Eberron Sky Coach. Have an entire case of Fangs and Talons pre-ordered... so Im not just being a miser when I say this tower is overpriced and I'll be passing on this. Sad, because I was really excited about it when I saw the prototype images almost a year ago. Not even mad about the cardboard floors, but it just looks tacky and cheap. Castle Greyskull from the 80s had a better paintjob than this does and was way more sturdy. This thing, on the other hand, kept coming apart as Theo was trying to assemble it and it kept looking like it would fall apart again if not moved super securely. For THAT price tag ($250 MSRP), I expected a WAY better paint job and more heft and weight. Everything wobbled and again... that paint job is disgusting. Seeing it next to the Dwarven Forge really didnt do it any favors. The very simple DF dry-brushing looked 1000x better than Wizkid's spotty airbrush. They missed the mark on this in so many ways.
Thanks for commenting Shad! The goal here is to make sure you have the information you need to make a purchasing decision, so as long as we helped with that, I'm glad. We'll keep showing lots of different terrain options at different price points from different companies, and hopefully you can find something that works for you and your group! -T
@@TheGallantGoblin Im an avid fan of your videos. Nobody on RUclips presents the sets as well as you guys. The turntable and lighting are perfection for getting to see the quality of the pieces and I appreciate the occasional size comparisons for the bigger pieces. Furthermore, I LOVE the commentary when you do a set review. I appreciate the research you do, letting people know information about the creatures and their lore and abilities, as well as the books they appear in. Keep up the amazing work!
Hey thank you, Shad! I very much appreciate that! I’m glad you’re finding our videos to be fun and informative. We’ll keep striving to make them better and better! Thanks so much for your support! -T
Plus tax and shipping....close to $300. No thank you.
$250 for something with cardboard floors? Yikes!
That seems to be primary criticism of it. We'll see if they pivot away from that in the next big sets. -Theo
Why does this guy always have his mouth gaped open in the thumb nails?
It ain't easy coming up with new facial expressions for each picture. :-P -Theo