1:39:39 wat nick is doing is the traditional version of the kamehameha that master Roshi and the others use in dragon ball. I’ve always explained it away in my head that as Goku got stronger in Z he was able to pull it off faster by shortening the movements in these faster fights like with hand seals in naruto.
I've only recently found this podcast. And I'm in love. I will never complain about a 2 hour podcast. You make the work day possible. Keep up the good shit.
@@donsnow8039 the only time I ever skip ahead on podcasts is if it's reader mail. But even then I usually still listen/watch. Sometimes hearing people talk about topics/ shows I don't care about helps me better understand it or even pique my interest
The evolution of this podcast makes me happy… been around since the first episode and they really do get better n better the more u guys learn how to navigate having a podcast/ your friendship gets stronger so the chemistry gets better
Okay I just caught up to Oshi no Ko and “doing nothing” is stretching it. He’s like “no this is not a thing that’s gonna happen”. To completely play devils advocate, he isn’t necessarily struggling with not getting together with her, he’s struggling with a promise he made to a dying child. He’s “letting” her cling, because she’s very insistent, we know this because her personality is very obsessive. He’s also now made sure to try to get him to actively hate him. Idk, I’m not saying it’s not fucking weird, just that there’s more moral dilemma than normal. And you can’t claim she’s fully a child if you’re using the same argument for him. She’s now 28 according to your argument, which I agree with, but it puts a double standard on it when “he can’t do that, he’s mentally almost 40” and then turn around and go “she can do whatever she wants, she’s a child, he’s taking advantage”. Not saying that what you meant, just that it’s kind of a logical fallacy
It's kinda difficult to argue that if isekai anime ever had golden age that it ain't right now. Pretty all the series that are considered the greats of the genre are getting adapted or came back (or about to) after long hiatus between season. ReZero. Mushoku Tensei. Konosuba. Overlord. Ascendance of the Bookworm. Whatever your opinion on MT might be, it's widely considered the best isekai alongside ReZero, and it's anime adaptation regarded as one of best light novel adaptations we ever had.
Yeah but the golden age is when those were all first releasing. They might be back, but there's an objective dark age going on for isekai right now. These are just the lights in the dark. Every isekai is the exact same incel wet dream, "sad, pervy incel, who never did anything in life is reborn as some kind of overpowered God in some rpg template world" there's very, VERY few good ones right now. For example the slime isekai is really good imo.
Yeah the golden age of Shonen was like decades ago in the 80s or the 2000s. We are currently in the golden age of isekai just because there’s so much of it.
Generations as a group you could refer to and assign characteristics weren't a thing until the Baby Boom generation. The Greatest generation and the Silent generation were named retroactively. Gen X got the name through the media searching for a way to define them, and they came to be known as the most individualistic generation yet.
32:24 Spoilers for anime/manga readers: You obviously aren't gonna watch the show from how you are phrasing it, but basically he kind of got forced into marrying Eris, he never intended to go through with it, she was an insurance plan made by Rudeus and his at the time family because Rudeus's family was being held hostage and he was getting blackmailed into going on a Suicide Mission because someone either wants Him gone or the person that will probably kill him to be gone(in reality he just wants both to be gone and no way he would let Rudeus go, but Rudeus doesn't really have an alternative choice so he is stuck with one of two decisions) so Eris who was pretty decently strong(he hates her at this point and hasn't seen her in years) was sent a marriage proposal so that maybe, just maybe if Rudeus did well enough in his fight, that she could finish the job. Unfortunately that didn't happen because as impressive as Rudeus seems and actually was throughout that whole fight, he got turned into a vegetable and lost completely and Eris while being strong was nothing in front of the problem. Things happened and Rudeus is now helping the guy who he just lost to in exchange for that guy agreeing to protect his family by providing his services in taking down a certain person(Rudeus has a significantly better reputation then the guy who just beat him so that's why the offer works) and now Rudeus has to complete his end of the deal and marry Eris as his 3rd wife, but even then he did not like Eris much at all at first and it took him a short while to grow any feelings for her again. As for his 2nd wife Roxy(because i can kind of feel you trying to bring that up as a problem) he did nothing wrong in doing this, infact i am actually proud at his maturity in actually being the bigger man and looking past what Roxy did (while conspiring with another character) by tricking an emotionally depressed Rudeus into thinking that he SA'd Roxy when in reality its kind of the other way around(although Rudeus isn't completely exempt from blame for letting himself be reduced to such a state), this misunderstanding with a nudge from another character propelled Rudeus to consider the option of marrying Roxy, he didn't actually agree to marry her right away and waited until he got back to his actual wife, and then after a very lengthy and difficult conversation, it was allowed by his wife Sylphy that Roxy can be Rudeus's second wife. Context exists, Mushoku Tensei's first half is about the Redemption of Rudeus Greyrat, a borderline Pedophile into a decent acceptable human with a relatively acceptable moral compass, the other half is about a lot of other things but even in that part he still grows, as a brother, as a father, as a husband, as a son and as a human. Just because there isn't some instant karmic system that immediately punishes Rudeus for his wrong doings doesn't mean the story condones those things, it could mean that its just being realistic and showing that a persons bad actions don't always get punished, but at the same time if that person has any drive for self-improvement then its possible for them over a myriad of different related or unrelated experiences to realize that what they did was wrong and that they made a mistake. If Mushoku Tensei punished Rudeus everytime he did something bad, it would look closer to a childrens moral lesson book then a story about a otherwise hopeless loser's attempt at redemption. I would probably recommend you watch a review video from Psyculturists, he is a psychologist who analyses anime from a psychological perspective, and he sort of showed why Mushoku Tensei is a great show, why Rudeus, just like any human regardless of there flaws deserves an opportunity to try to redeem themselves as long as he has the will for redemption and change, he also puts into perspective how difficult and time consuming and trial and error filled change can be. So I highly recommend that if you didn't like Mushoku Tensei for the sole reason of "its condoning pedophilic acts" you watch one of his early videos on Mushoku Tensei, he might even have a general review video up.
@@micah459 Slavery is an economy in this world that supports the livelyhood of millions of innocent people in certain countries, especially the one Rudeus is in right now. Even if Rudeus spent his entire life fighting it(something he does not have the luxury to do thanks to Hitogami) he wouldn't make much of a dent. I'm obviously not saying it's good but it's also not something Rudeus as a character has any answer for, actually you could argue that Rudeus's Organization(for spoiler reason I won't elaborate) fixed some of the slave problem.
Forreal people just take every thing at surface value and are quick to give up on it. People want to pretend like slavery is eradicated and doesn't still happen today in the real world but in North Korea, Eritrea, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Tajikistan, the United Arab Emirates, Russia, Afghanistan, and Kuwait its still very prevalent yet nobody is doing anything about it.... @@Nah_I-ll_Win
@@micah459 The author didn't say he thinks Slavery isn't bad. He literally had to clarify it is because people couldn't seperate when he made the statement it came from him saying how Rudeus feels about it not him. That's like saying Isayama likes genocide because Eren commits genocide. Rudeus stops slave traders so I wouldn't say he is for slavery just realistically its more complicated to stop a system like this, not something you can just punch to solve.
36:35 you guys will obviously not watch or read this in the foreseeable future so i will spoil this for you. Spoilers for anime/manga readers and some LN readers as well: Rudeus's soul definitely left his body and ended up in the vicinity of the Six-Edged World but he didn't reincarnate, he was sort of just floating there about to die, it was a time travelling Cursed/Blessed child who is also responsible for the Matastasis Disaster(literally two episodes from where you appear to have dropped the show, a giant explosion ingulfed a province sized land mass and teleported everything at its surface including people all across the world) she just saw his soul about to die and also saw that Zenith's child who was being born in the area she was in(I would assume she was drawing her magic circle which lead to the disaster that i mentioned before, and that's why she was in the area) was gonna be still-born so SHE reincarnated Rudeus, it wasn't some act of God or something it was literally just some person who did it to "save" a otherwise dead child.
It damn near yanked out my heart strings and as someone who rarely cries after watching it I was crying my fucking eyes out to the point where it'd probably cause water damage and I'm still actively praying that it gets a decent season 2 knowing damn well it probably won't get one
Danny mentioning Medabots has healed my inner-child. I grew up playing the Medabots game on GameBoy and I absolutely loved the anime. It's a shame it wasn't popular in the US, because I think it had serious potential to be a huge brand. It was the best parts of Pokemon and Mecha-animes all in one.
I think the problem with Issekai is it gets used for lazy storytelling and to facilitate bad tropes rather than having an actual purpose in the story. The Issekai element in Jobless Reincarnation and many other offenders exists so the mangaka can infodump you and have it lazily justified because the MC is also new to the world, and also so these weird fantasies of old man has 12 year old haram but its okay for some reason can exist. I think for Issekai to be a proper genre of anime again there will have to be stories told where the being reborn has significant and pervasive impact on the story for example clashing idealogies from their old and new world and having to come to grips with it or bringing knowledge from your old world to better the new world (think Dr Stone but Issekai).
Danny getting through more than one episode of SAO deserves a medal. Binge vs Weekly, I converted to be more of a manga reader which made me more into binging the anime cause I already know what happens from reading the manga weekly. & where one episode can be good or bad taking on the whole seasons gives a more complete story.
nick and danny in the part where theyre talking about nicks pr nightmare reminds me so much of that video of the kid and the mom and the moms like "what do you have" and the kids like "a KNIFE" and the mom just screams no "me and dorothy have to reel you out of pr nightmares" "can I talk about it? i wanna talk about it" "NOO" its so funny
@@tehonlydewd2467 there's some fucked shit in the show, undeniably so, but it actually pertains to character development rather than pervy fan service. If I was to focus my ire on a show it'd probably be 'redo of healer' cause that shit is just fucked up for the sake of it, like a, somehow, less tasteful grind house.
I encourage anyone who feels distaste for MT to not feel cowed by those who like the show, because goddamn are there some solid reasons not to like it.
I agree, it paints the fucked shit he does in a super bad light and intentionally makes you cringe at what happens instead of glorifying it which I think is the biggest distinction between Moshoku Tensei and other degen centered shows @@bazzathebaptist5564
Nick’s points are so unreasonable. Yes Rudy doesn’t get punished at the start bcs they are building up for him to be broken down later on. Saying Mushoku tensei is terrible because of how horny it is and how it shows continued sexual assault as well as other general crimes after only watching the first arc is insane. Like imagine if someone were to watch the first arc of Naruto and say “no actually this show is terrible because it glorifies child soldiers. Why would I watch a show that promotes child soldiers? The rest of the show must be terrible. Everyone should stop watching this!
Thing is, what characters like Rudy, they never really actually face consequences for their creepy actions but instead get a slap on the wrist and continue being creepy. Master Roshi is another example of this. It's like anime wants to show characters being perverts without actually calling out that it's bad. There's a reason why SA is on the rise in Japan
@@micah459 I would agree with you except Rudy absolutely gets punished in the series. It’s just a build up. He treats the world like a game and later gets called out for his behavior by other characters who have just had enough of his shit. We also see that a big part of his perverted personality is kind of a front that he has bcs he wants to view himself as a the harem protagonist of this world. When he actually gets down the the henky penky he looses all his false confidence and almost talks his way out of it. Rudy gets emotionally broken in the series and is absolutely punished for being actual scum. I mean just look at his erectile disfunction in season 2. So much of season 2 is about Rudy learning to let go of his perverted personality
@andrithorkristensson2545 when I say punish, I don't mean him facing hardships, I'm talking about him facing consequences that were caused due to his perverted nature. Also, by the end of the series he's still a pervert just not as bad and ends up getting the harem he fantasize about anyway. So him being a pervert isn't really a front, it's who he actually is.
I would still say that he plays it up a lot concidering how he acts when he is actually put on the spot but I see your point. Regardless. I still think that MT is an incredible story regardless of how one feels about Rudy@@micah459
He literally loses the use of his weiner for being pervy and giving in to Eris and doesnt get that back until he actually has a meaningful relationship. Also yeah he is still pervy later on but his charcter is actually developed so he doesn't act on it unless its with the people he loves @@micah459
37:38 whats to like is his redemption, which Nick just oh so conveniently left out and straight up denied when this is one of the most in your face theme of the show from literally episode 1.
Hey guys, just letting you know that Time I got reincarnated as a slime season three is actually I think, dropping in March 2024, so it’s not out currently but it will start releasing in early 2024
8:30 This song unlocks from my subconscious everytime it comes on. I didn't realize there was a subset of weebs that overlap with Hollywood Undead fans. Emo weebs, unite.
I agreed with everything nick said in this episode, because I too was a very big fan of the isekai genre but now I feel like recently most of the new ones are terrible like jobless reincarnation. Everything he said about the slavery and sexual harrasment was so true and I really hope they they try and make isekai to how it was in the past. As always great episode guys. luvvvv uuu!
See its becuase people judge the show while the LN is where they explain a lot of these controversies. Nick says he never gets punished but he literally loses the use of his weiner for being so pervy and only gains it back when he actually falls in love. Also he says he is a 30+ year old man but he is a 30+ year old man who never develops because he never leaves his house so he has the mindset of a child. When it comes to slavery in the LN they explain there is no way he would be able to free all slaves while he is powerful he would have an entire country after him and he is not powerful enough to defeat an entire country. While def weird, in Japan you can marry your first cousin. So that is more of a Japanese culture thing cuz their Prime Minister in 2010 was married to his 1st cousin.
@@1GOBIRDS1people cant bother themselves to invest enough to really look into the details of things skipped in the anime and anime watchers dont understand the japanese culture..like 70% of them. Hence people dont get this and misjudge the show and its intent. But you cant blame anime as well. Its not like they can think about every single demographic. They have to make cuts and hope people dont take it out of context..the context of which is not given.
@@1GOBIRDS1 "The questionable age gap is ok because he's a 30+ year old man who's actually a shut in and because of that he's mentally regressed and therefore makes it okay that he has inappropriate thoughts, feelings, and relationships with an underage character" ....WHAT WHAT That's the most brain-dead, out of touch with the world, delusional loophole excuse I have _ever_ heard 😭 And you can't always use the "AckTually 🤓☝, It's in their cUlTuRe" excuse for objectively wrong concepts. In some communities it is their culture to force marriage, kill, and enslave people. Does that make things right? No. Japanese culture simps with their shallow knowledge of the culture (which they literally just search up for the sake of winning this exact argument) love to use this particular reasoning, and it just baffles me that they think they're actually right. They type it out and act like they've won the argument 💀. Please stop.
It blows my mind that I've never heard nick talk about Inu Yasha for someone who likes action/romance as much as he does. So many iconic moments, wind scar missing from the iconic move lineup
I would like to believe they don't talk about Inuyasha because, let's remember, that when it comes to story writing, it wasn't a shining star. I watch it like 5 times a year. And often let it play while I sleep. It's very comforting. Buuttt. The final arc is so bad that it in no way should be discussed. But maybe that's not it.
Mushokou Tensei is about a dude who had a rough go of it in his original life, and even being reincarnated in his new life still suffers from past trauma and it's about his growth as a person and a character. Don't get me wrong he is flawed for sure, but expecting him to change the entire world and its systems is crazy. He isn't even an all powerful character, he can just cast magic without incantations, which others in the world can do. I would watch gigguk's review of the show because it's honestly what made me want to give the show a try and I love it
I think it's a pretty big asshole move to spoil a big part of a show if it hasn't aired yet just to make a point, regardless of the fact that you don't like it. What kind of a podcast spouts endgame-level spoilers like that without warning? Talking about the jobless reincarnation thing.
The more I listen to this, the more I am convinced that Danny would like Log Horizon more than SAO. And Nick will also concede to liking Log Horizon as well.
Man, I fucking love Hollywood Undead. Hearing you guys talk about it unlocked my memories of my also tiny ex girlfriend just belting out these incredibly violent songs.
He never changes!!!!! Sorry love you guys, but this is the absolute worst anime take ive ever heard. Rudy constantly changes, grows, and develops as a person. Change doesn't happen over night. Infact in this point in the anime hes not even pervy anymore. And he gets even better in the manga/lightnovels
@@3RaccooonsInATrenchcoatWho said it's ok? Future Rudeus would definitely tell you that what he did was not ok as well, does that mean Rudeus doesn't deserve to be remembered for anything other then the guy who made a lot of mistakes in his life? Or the guy who overcame his flaws and became a great father, a great husband, a great brother, and a great friend. Everybody has made mistakes in there lives at some point, some made ones that were worse then others, but as long as they grew past the mistakes, why is it that there mistakes from the past are the only things you want to talk about. Does a Pedophile not deserve the right to be provided help services if they have a drive to change? Does a rapist or murderer also not deserve the right to be provided help services for possessing the aforementioned drive? Sounds pretty reductive and dehumanising to me. These people are the way they are because of a psychological problem, whether that's biological or through a bunch of unhealthy experiences(whether those were a result of there actions or there environment). They are responsible for there actions but they also have to right to be given ample options to redeem themselves provided they possess the will to change, no society is a humane society if all it does is bring people down for there worst moments and not be able to try and bring out either the best from those people or acknowledge there growth and accept them for there growth. Imagine a drug addict goes through 10-15 years of therapy and comes out great but all people say and remember about him is that he IS a drug addict not that he WAS a drug addict and he's just better at controlling himself now or something.. kind of a pathetic response from the morally high class society now isn't it? Rudeus is being treated similarly to that drug addict by viewers I feel, where they are giving up on him at a point in time where he hasn't even begun to take baby steps and then labelling him by whatever acronym they feel like for the rest of his life. Really disappointing display from the supposedly morally just and superior modern society.
As to why there are so many infuriating concepts (that have now become tropes because of how often they are used) in anime that have these amazing stories and worldbuilding, I think it comes down to the need to break through the noise barrier. If you told me, "hey, there's this show about the idol and youtube industry and its dark side" I would think I would watch it eventually, and then not, but if you said "Guy gets reincarnated as an idol's child and then goes on a murder mystery while gaining popularity as an idol himself" I would watch it to see how crazy it gets. And that's what I DID! I've only watched two episodes, but it got my foot in the door. The problem is that then these master crafted stories then have to drag the initial premise along. PS. For your point at 46:00 God of Highschool (and I can't believe I'm saying this line) read the manwa (Webtoon). The pacing and story is fine because it's not condensed and chopped up. I speed read 300 chapters during spring break because I could not put it down. Yes the animation for the fights is amazing because the choreography for the webtoon is amazing, but so is everything else. It is purely a failure of adapting from one medium to another. If you still don't want to read it, the final villain of the series is THE best fleshed out character in all of anime and manga.
i will say, Bryce Papenbrook voices a lot of protagonists in anime, and most I don't like, but he does an excellent job with Rin, the MC of Blue Exorcist. I think the problem with a lot of his roles is mostly casting and direction because with rin, who's like, a goofy punk sort of kid, his voice fits a lot better than more serious acting characters, like kirito and eren. his inosuke voice is just weird though, i have no idea what anyone involved with that decision thought they were doing.
Yuji Itadori is canonically 15 ALSO i got so excited and nostalgic when you were both talking about Hollywood Undead😂 i was singing along with you guys while you mumbled the lyrics to Everywhere I Go and Bullet 💀
im living for the hollywood undead chat i had the exact same reaction from ppl when i used to play them hollywood undead as a teenager, just a massive nerd with a bubbly personality listening to all of swan songs on repeat
"I once said i wanted to be stronger than the bomb, so i did, i worked way to hard like, i used to pay for time like this to rhyme like this, so i had to grind like that to shine like this, and the matter of time I've spent to realize is that i am the bomb" -my favorite parody quote
I kinda wanna see Nick and Danny talk about anime what if like what if Maki and Mai were born not as twins or what if Madara was a woman or what if Ichigo met Reji first instead of Rukia things like that it just appeared in my head
Nick killed it with goku and bleach, side note tho, ichigo can use getsuga without being in bankai, it's a release of his shikai, the stage before bankai, it's just his bankai increases all his power, so he usually does them both for strength
@markjack9772 wdym how can I get that opinion? Cid literally hits his head at a rock to get superpowers at ep 1 and then Jumps into in to traffic, he clearly is not mentally well.
Nick won the draft. Getsuga tenshou is a great pick. Kamehameha is most definitely the most iconic move in anime. Rasengan, chidori, shadow clone are probably the top 3 most iconic moves from Naruto, followed by eight trigrams 64 palm technique and then probably 1000 years of death. I would also go spirit bomb, dodon ray, special beam canon, garlick canon, uuh Vegeta's flash beam thing, hellzone grenade and Tien's triangle palm explosion technique. Rock paper rock by Gon is great. Honestly that, bungee gum and kurapika's chains are the most iconic ones from HxH.
Destructo disk! Wolf fang fist! Friezas death beam! Vegatas big bang. I'm surprised that no Inuyasha stuff made it in. Iron reaver soul stealer, wind-scar, or wind tunnel. Even more surprised that one for all smash or something wasn't in the draft. Dragonball has a lot of iconic moves, but it is basically the progenitor of Shonen.
1:39:39 Nicks not wrong but hes more referring to master roshi’s Kamehameha but they mostly animate it the way danny describes it so lil 50/50 for both of ya
I dont know if I've been more worked up about an anime. Definitely not completely defending rudeues because he definitely has traits and does stupid stuff, and maybe I have become too desensitized to all things anime. Rudues does have character development and shows his weak side many times. Also he doesn't view himself as that powerful and underestimates himself. He doesn't fight the slavery because he doesn't believe he can
Does he know without mushoku tensei the isekai genre would not exist it is literally the thing what started the genre of Storytelling it's the reason we have the good ones and the reason we have all the bad ones it's not the first one created but it's the reason we have so many as well everything he saying about his mother is not true as well as what he said about before he died about his mother
41:55 Im 40mins in and havebso many comments! Starting with "Bullet" from Hollywood Undead was my favorite song in like 11th grade (2011) cause I was depressed af and the song was speaking to me, but also somehow sounded way to cheerful to stay sad 🤣🤣. Runner up Hollywood Undeadndead song being "Christmas In Hollywood" 🤣🤣. On to Issaki, please read the Manwa "Return of Hero" is like a super dark reverse Issakie where a dude comes back from another world finds outfits beenb2 years and his life sucks. Then he realizes he still has all his abilities from the other world. And him justifing slavery immediately made me think of Florida litteraly changing their school curriculum to teach that the slaves benifitied from slavery and it makes me so sad, angry, and disgusted.
Man Danny I actually never really thought about how young Naruto always had his eyes squinting or closed half the time.. He used his eyes to express emotions oftene.. Anger had a specific squint, silliness had one, curiosity had one.. etc..
I get what Danny is saying about Akira and Luffy. I think how it differs from Naruto and other MC is they although for example Naruto isn't necessarily trying to inspire people, he is trying to do something lofty and noble and good and right. The difference with Akira is he's not following his bucket list because he thinks that the right way to live or noble or whatever, he's just chasing what he want to do for his life and just through his likeableness and good nature inspiring others.
from what I heard you saying about Mushoku Tensei i think you haven't understood a thing about it, because Rudeus didn't terrorize his mother before reincarnating and second you clearly have missed the reason why he was the way he was before going to the other world. So that should be enough reason why people thing your opinion is an L opinion ( I also think that way, because clearly you are trash talking without even understanding the anime!) and also you clearly haven't looked close enough for the chapters after the chapter in question for Oshi no ko also
The amount of misinformation in the Mushoku Tensei section is unsurprising. If you don't like the series, thats perfectly fine. I, and many others, don't expect everyone to be comfortable with Mushoku Tensei. And if it makes you uncomfortable, then don't watch it. Its better for you, and its better for everyone else.
I don't really think it's all that fair to say Nick is spreading misinformation about Mushoku Tensei. A lot of his views are just his opinion about the MC and I think his opinions are valid but I also think the opinions of alot of fans about Jobless reincarnation being a redemtion story are also valid. In my opinion I think Nick is right with alot of his statements but I think the crux of my argument for why the show is good is because there's no end of the week punishment for doing bad things. The reason I like Jobless reincarnation is because it treats the reincarnated world like the real world. In the real world there is no end of the week moral lession shown to us and the fact that Rudy still becomes a decent human is a testament to the argument that it's a redemtion story. However Nick is not wrong about some of his character traits and if those turn you off and you don't want to support the show I understand but I hope people give it a chance and try to enjoy it.
He got multiple things wrong. Talked about a huge spoiler as and doesn't understand the point of the main character at all. The character is flawed and never saw himself as a good person no matter how talented he is. He is a flawed character that does good and bad things and learning his way through the eorld
@DannyMotta For one Rudy doesn't steal his mom panties or really lewd her, it actual made clear that he doesn't feel sexual attraction for family. He does notes that his parent... indulge a lot and her boobs are huge but that about it. The only panties he steals is the mage teacher and she didn't let him, he did it without her knowledge (still a yikes move though). Also he NEVER terrorized his mom before death or after. He was bullied at school, like real omg bullying where he got stripped and tied to the school gates with pictures taken. So he became a shut in at his parent house where he never left home, even staying in his room during his parents funeral until his siblings kicked him out. Also. He makes it sound like he marries his cousin when she 9. He doesn't. Honestly that was a huge spoiler he dropped super casually. It not in the anime and probably won't be till like late season 3 or 4. But anyway he marries her yes, but wayyyyy later when they are both adults. For the slave bit, Rudy doesn't dismantle the place because it'll be him place his own values and morals on a new world. Which is what the author was trying to explain I think just insanely poorly. And also, to dismantle the slave market will bring sooo much trouble on him in the long run and likely wouldn't work. As for the girl brought, she wasn't brought by him. She was brought by his friend Zanoba, Rudy just tagged along to advise and made it clear she to be treated well. With all that said, Rudy still not a great person, I and honestly most fan won't defend that. We know he has flaws, but the show is about his second chance and working to be a better person. But if Rudy too much to watch real talks that fine. I get it.
This is why I want TBATE to be animated so badly because it’s all of the good of jobless reincarnation but even better without all of the bad pervy stuff
TBATE is Mushoku Tensei but take out the Rudeus's pretty realistic (obviously not entirely) journey of growth and self improvement and replace it with a boring dude that is only intelligent when the author writes slice of life and the second anything complicated happens MCs IQ drops to 12. Mushoku Tensei is good because Rudeus is shown to make mistakes and sometimes get away with them while other times regrets them in the long run. Just because YOU didn't have the patience and trust in Rudeus's ability to improve himself and see that moment of him in regret and understanding and realization about why what he was doing was bad doesn't mean the story didn't have it, just means you were ignorant to it because of YOUR choice to not continue which is perfectly fine and within your rights and stuff, however it does not mean you ought to be going around making false remarks about the show, because your reasoning is objectively faulty and not in line with the contents, themes and messaging of the show, so it's no longer an opinion but just slander.
Love this podcast! Nick, move your wrists away from eachother and you'll have the Kamehameha motions right. Danny, the Shadow Clone Jutsu is a plus sign with 2 fingers on each hand. Bankai is also a transformation so Nick's gonna have to stick to Getsuga Tenshou, Id argue the Sharingan is also a kind of transformation but if he said something like Kamui or Amaterasu then Id give it to Danny. Ngl tho, I think Nick takes this one, as much as I want Nick to get homework lol Ngl I also dont like Boruto's change, it feels like its missing something but I think everyone else looks great too tho
I honestly value Nick's Isekai takes less because he rides so hard for S1 SAO. Like are sure you can tell the difference between a good and a bad isekai? This comment came out way meaner then it sounded in my head, still love the podcast tho.
SAO was a lot of people's first anime, and it had the unfortunate aspect of being both insanely popular but also questionably written (not unlike MT). So a lot of people will stan for it despite its flaws.
the insanity of SAO makes so much more sense when you find out he wrote the original first draft was made for a contest when the author was something like 15
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1:39:39 wat nick is doing is the traditional version of the kamehameha that master Roshi and the others use in dragon ball. I’ve always explained it away in my head that as Goku got stronger in Z he was able to pull it off faster by shortening the movements in these faster fights like with hand seals in naruto.
Calling Naruto a youth pastor who's willing to beat the s*** out of you It's perfect LOL😂😭😂😭😭
That’s wild 😂😂😂
I love that the pod has been 2 hours. Hearing you guys unhinged takes and arguing being me joy on a Sunday!! You guys are killing it
I've only recently found this podcast. And I'm in love. I will never complain about a 2 hour podcast. You make the work day possible. Keep up the good shit.
nick sounds like he fused with himself 😂
I know right
Thats the best way to describe it 😂
07:46 everyone loves that AMV
I love this podcast bc there's timestamps and I don't have to skip around to find what I wanna watch
You don’t just watch the whole thing?!
@@Landez97I don't personally. I like Nick and Danny but don't care about all of the topics so I just go to what I'm most interested in
@@donsnow8039 the only time I ever skip ahead on podcasts is if it's reader mail. But even then I usually still listen/watch. Sometimes hearing people talk about topics/ shows I don't care about helps me better understand it or even pique my interest
For real this needs to be normalized
@@Landez97 You v?
My first isekai was Inuyasha and it's still one of the GOATS of that genre
No other isekai has ever done isekai like Inuyasha, it seems. Such an iconic show
The evolution of this podcast makes me happy… been around since the first episode and they really do get better n better the more u guys learn how to navigate having a podcast/ your friendship gets stronger so the chemistry gets better
“Youre an upwards faller” Nick: “He did NOT just call me Buggy”
Okay I just caught up to Oshi no Ko and “doing nothing” is stretching it. He’s like “no this is not a thing that’s gonna happen”.
To completely play devils advocate, he isn’t necessarily struggling with not getting together with her, he’s struggling with a promise he made to a dying child. He’s “letting” her cling, because she’s very insistent, we know this because her personality is very obsessive. He’s also now made sure to try to get him to actively hate him. Idk, I’m not saying it’s not fucking weird, just that there’s more moral dilemma than normal. And you can’t claim she’s fully a child if you’re using the same argument for him. She’s now 28 according to your argument, which I agree with, but it puts a double standard on it when “he can’t do that, he’s mentally almost 40” and then turn around and go “she can do whatever she wants, she’s a child, he’s taking advantage”. Not saying that what you meant, just that it’s kind of a logical fallacy
Danny and nick being Hollywood undead makes me weirdly happy lmao
It's kinda difficult to argue that if isekai anime ever had golden age that it ain't right now. Pretty all the series that are considered the greats of the genre are getting adapted or came back (or about to) after long hiatus between season. ReZero. Mushoku Tensei. Konosuba. Overlord. Ascendance of the Bookworm. Whatever your opinion on MT might be, it's widely considered the best isekai alongside ReZero, and it's anime adaptation regarded as one of best light novel adaptations we ever had.
Yeah but the golden age is when those were all first releasing. They might be back, but there's an objective dark age going on for isekai right now. These are just the lights in the dark. Every isekai is the exact same incel wet dream, "sad, pervy incel, who never did anything in life is reborn as some kind of overpowered God in some rpg template world" there's very, VERY few good ones right now. For example the slime isekai is really good imo.
@@whitenobeard I would say that doesn’t matter. It is the highest saturation point of isekai, and that’s what’s more important
Yeah the golden age of Shonen was like decades ago in the 80s or the 2000s. We are currently in the golden age of isekai just because there’s so much of it.
@@whitenobeardYeah what he’s talking about would be a renaissance.
Agreee
Generations as a group you could refer to and assign characteristics weren't a thing until the Baby Boom generation. The Greatest generation and the Silent generation were named retroactively. Gen X got the name through the media searching for a way to define them, and they came to be known as the most individualistic generation yet.
32:24 Spoilers for anime/manga readers:
You obviously aren't gonna watch the show from how you are phrasing it, but basically he kind of got forced into marrying Eris, he never intended to go through with it, she was an insurance plan made by Rudeus and his at the time family because Rudeus's family was being held hostage and he was getting blackmailed into going on a Suicide Mission because someone either wants Him gone or the person that will probably kill him to be gone(in reality he just wants both to be gone and no way he would let Rudeus go, but Rudeus doesn't really have an alternative choice so he is stuck with one of two decisions) so Eris who was pretty decently strong(he hates her at this point and hasn't seen her in years) was sent a marriage proposal so that maybe, just maybe if Rudeus did well enough in his fight, that she could finish the job.
Unfortunately that didn't happen because as impressive as Rudeus seems and actually was throughout that whole fight, he got turned into a vegetable and lost completely and Eris while being strong was nothing in front of the problem. Things happened and Rudeus is now helping the guy who he just lost to in exchange for that guy agreeing to protect his family by providing his services in taking down a certain person(Rudeus has a significantly better reputation then the guy who just beat him so that's why the offer works) and now Rudeus has to complete his end of the deal and marry Eris as his 3rd wife, but even then he did not like Eris much at all at first and it took him a short while to grow any feelings for her again.
As for his 2nd wife Roxy(because i can kind of feel you trying to bring that up as a problem) he did nothing wrong in doing this, infact i am actually proud at his maturity in actually being the bigger man and looking past what Roxy did (while conspiring with another character) by tricking an emotionally depressed Rudeus into thinking that he SA'd Roxy when in reality its kind of the other way around(although Rudeus isn't completely exempt from blame for letting himself be reduced to such a state), this misunderstanding with a nudge from another character propelled Rudeus to consider the option of marrying Roxy, he didn't actually agree to marry her right away and waited until he got back to his actual wife, and then after a very lengthy and difficult conversation, it was allowed by his wife Sylphy that Roxy can be Rudeus's second wife.
Context exists, Mushoku Tensei's first half is about the Redemption of Rudeus Greyrat, a borderline Pedophile into a decent acceptable human with a relatively acceptable moral compass, the other half is about a lot of other things but even in that part he still grows, as a brother, as a father, as a husband, as a son and as a human. Just because there isn't some instant karmic system that immediately punishes Rudeus for his wrong doings doesn't mean the story condones those things, it could mean that its just being realistic and showing that a persons bad actions don't always get punished, but at the same time if that person has any drive for self-improvement then its possible for them over a myriad of different related or unrelated experiences to realize that what they did was wrong and that they made a mistake.
If Mushoku Tensei punished Rudeus everytime he did something bad, it would look closer to a childrens moral lesson book then a story about a otherwise hopeless loser's attempt at redemption. I would probably recommend you watch a review video from Psyculturists, he is a psychologist who analyses anime from a psychological perspective, and he sort of showed why Mushoku Tensei is a great show, why Rudeus, just like any human regardless of there flaws deserves an opportunity to try to redeem themselves as long as he has the will for redemption and change, he also puts into perspective how difficult and time consuming and trial and error filled change can be.
So I highly recommend that if you didn't like Mushoku Tensei for the sole reason of "its condoning pedophilic acts" you watch one of his early videos on Mushoku Tensei, he might even have a general review video up.
I mean the author said slavery isn't bad so I don't put it pass him that he doesn't think what Rudy does is wrong but reasonable because of his past
@@micah459 Slavery is an economy in this world that supports the livelyhood of millions of innocent people in certain countries, especially the one Rudeus is in right now. Even if Rudeus spent his entire life fighting it(something he does not have the luxury to do thanks to Hitogami) he wouldn't make much of a dent. I'm obviously not saying it's good but it's also not something Rudeus as a character has any answer for, actually you could argue that Rudeus's Organization(for spoiler reason I won't elaborate) fixed some of the slave problem.
Forreal people just take every thing at surface value and are quick to give up on it. People want to pretend like slavery is eradicated and doesn't still happen today in the real world but in North Korea, Eritrea, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Tajikistan, the United Arab Emirates, Russia, Afghanistan, and Kuwait its still very prevalent yet nobody is doing anything about it.... @@Nah_I-ll_Win
@@micah459 The author didn't say he thinks Slavery isn't bad. He literally had to clarify it is because people couldn't seperate when he made the statement it came from him saying how Rudeus feels about it not him. That's like saying Isayama likes genocide because Eren commits genocide. Rudeus stops slave traders so I wouldn't say he is for slavery just realistically its more complicated to stop a system like this, not something you can just punch to solve.
36:35 you guys will obviously not watch or read this in the foreseeable future so i will spoil this for you.
Spoilers for anime/manga readers and some LN readers as well:
Rudeus's soul definitely left his body and ended up in the vicinity of the Six-Edged World but he didn't reincarnate, he was sort of just floating there about to die, it was a time travelling Cursed/Blessed child who is also responsible for the Matastasis Disaster(literally two episodes from where you appear to have dropped the show, a giant explosion ingulfed a province sized land mass and teleported everything at its surface including people all across the world) she just saw his soul about to die and also saw that Zenith's child who was being born in the area she was in(I would assume she was drawing her magic circle which lead to the disaster that i mentioned before, and that's why she was in the area) was gonna be still-born so SHE reincarnated Rudeus, it wasn't some act of God or something it was literally just some person who did it to "save" a otherwise dead child.
Kotaro lives alone is dope but you'll be sitting there happy unprepared for the guy punch outta nowhere they are about to make you cry with
I 100% wasn’t ready for that series to full blown make me as a grown ass man cry lol
@@lultrappy4457 I feel you me and my little sister would be sitting there enjoying life 1 min then the next we r bawling
It damn near yanked out my heart strings and as someone who rarely cries after watching it I was crying my fucking eyes out to the point where it'd probably cause water damage and I'm still actively praying that it gets a decent season 2 knowing damn well it probably won't get one
Danny mentioning Medabots has healed my inner-child. I grew up playing the Medabots game on GameBoy and I absolutely loved the anime. It's a shame it wasn't popular in the US, because I think it had serious potential to be a huge brand. It was the best parts of Pokemon and Mecha-animes all in one.
“He can’t do getsuga without his bankai” THAT dug nicks grave😂
yikes
I see his reasoning tho ichigo has the worst bankai in the series bar none the others all have unique abilities and ichigos just goes sword go brr
Yes I'm like you went 3 feet with spirit gun and 4ft with that
@@Argosentral-88 ehhh, tensa zangetsu also not a real bankai tho
@@Argosentral-88you see his reasoning NOW. Just wait until the end of the series, and it’ll make a lot more sense.
I think the problem with Issekai is it gets used for lazy storytelling and to facilitate bad tropes rather than having an actual purpose in the story. The Issekai element in Jobless Reincarnation and many other offenders exists so the mangaka can infodump you and have it lazily justified because the MC is also new to the world, and also so these weird fantasies of old man has 12 year old haram but its okay for some reason can exist. I think for Issekai to be a proper genre of anime again there will have to be stories told where the being reborn has significant and pervasive impact on the story for example clashing idealogies from their old and new world and having to come to grips with it or bringing knowledge from your old world to better the new world (think Dr Stone but Issekai).
Danny getting through more than one episode of SAO deserves a medal.
Binge vs Weekly, I converted to be more of a manga reader which made me more into binging the anime cause I already know what happens from reading the manga weekly. & where one episode can be good or bad taking on the whole seasons gives a more complete story.
nick and danny in the part where theyre talking about nicks pr nightmare reminds me so much of that video of the kid and the mom and the moms like "what do you have" and the kids like "a KNIFE" and the mom just screams no "me and dorothy have to reel you out of pr nightmares" "can I talk about it? i wanna talk about it" "NOO" its so funny
36:06 Rudeus was born presumably in either the 1980s or 1990s, as the story was written back in 2011-12 (I can't remember but one of those two years)
“He was an older guy…he was like 20 something - which I loved!” me watching this at 28
It's very interesting hearing Nick's perspective on 'mushoku tensei', it's one of my favorite isekai shows so kinda mad seeing his distaste for it.
Yeah same
ngl it fucking slaps lmao, but it’s ok for him to have a different take and not enjoy it. it was kind of sad how combative he was about it tho
@@tehonlydewd2467 there's some fucked shit in the show, undeniably so, but it actually pertains to character development rather than pervy fan service. If I was to focus my ire on a show it'd probably be 'redo of healer' cause that shit is just fucked up for the sake of it, like a, somehow, less tasteful grind house.
I encourage anyone who feels distaste for MT to not feel cowed by those who like the show, because goddamn are there some solid reasons not to like it.
I agree, it paints the fucked shit he does in a super bad light and intentionally makes you cringe at what happens instead of glorifying it which I think is the biggest distinction between Moshoku Tensei and other degen centered shows @@bazzathebaptist5564
Nick’s points are so unreasonable. Yes Rudy doesn’t get punished at the start bcs they are building up for him to be broken down later on.
Saying Mushoku tensei is terrible because of how horny it is and how it shows continued sexual assault as well as other general crimes after only watching the first arc is insane. Like imagine if someone were to watch the first arc of Naruto and say “no actually this show is terrible because it glorifies child soldiers. Why would I watch a show that promotes child soldiers? The rest of the show must be terrible. Everyone should stop watching this!
Thing is, what characters like Rudy, they never really actually face consequences for their creepy actions but instead get a slap on the wrist and continue being creepy. Master Roshi is another example of this. It's like anime wants to show characters being perverts without actually calling out that it's bad. There's a reason why SA is on the rise in Japan
@@micah459 I would agree with you except Rudy absolutely gets punished in the series. It’s just a build up.
He treats the world like a game and later gets called out for his behavior by other characters who have just had enough of his shit. We also see that a big part of his perverted personality is kind of a front that he has bcs he wants to view himself as a the harem protagonist of this world.
When he actually gets down the the henky penky he looses all his false confidence and almost talks his way out of it.
Rudy gets emotionally broken in the series and is absolutely punished for being actual scum. I mean just look at his erectile disfunction in season 2. So much of season 2 is about Rudy learning to let go of his perverted personality
@andrithorkristensson2545 when I say punish, I don't mean him facing hardships, I'm talking about him facing consequences that were caused due to his perverted nature. Also, by the end of the series he's still a pervert just not as bad and ends up getting the harem he fantasize about anyway. So him being a pervert isn't really a front, it's who he actually is.
I would still say that he plays it up a lot concidering how he acts when he is actually put on the spot but I see your point.
Regardless. I still think that MT is an incredible story regardless of how one feels about Rudy@@micah459
He literally loses the use of his weiner for being pervy and giving in to Eris and doesnt get that back until he actually has a meaningful relationship. Also yeah he is still pervy later on but his charcter is actually developed so he doesn't act on it unless its with the people he loves @@micah459
The echo makes this podcast so epic
39:29 *Rick Sanchez voice* “God dammit, when did this shit become the default?!”
37:38 whats to like is his redemption, which Nick just oh so conveniently left out and straight up denied when this is one of the most in your face theme of the show from literally episode 1.
Danny saying no one would recognize a Boruto timeskip cosplay when it has only been literally a few days since it came out is hilarious to me
Y’all made me feel better about being uncomfortable about jobless reincarnation
Nick won so hard in this draft he got kamehameha and spirit gun man absolutely too good the top end of his draft is too strong to beat
I suddenly want to go back and listen to Hollywood Undead, thank you Nick and Danny. Thank you so much
Hey guys, just letting you know that Time I got reincarnated as a slime season three is actually I think, dropping in March 2024, so it’s not out currently but it will start releasing in early 2024
The longer the better! Love the long episodes
8:30 This song unlocks from my subconscious everytime it comes on. I didn't realize there was a subset of weebs that overlap with Hollywood Undead fans. Emo weebs, unite.
Am I the only one hearing an echo because of their new big room. These two are in the grand canyon.😄
As Danny would say, it's a more "full sound" 😂
I wouldn’t mind even a 3 hour pod
I agreed with everything nick said in this episode, because I too was a very big fan of the isekai genre but now I feel like recently most of the new ones are terrible like jobless reincarnation. Everything he said about the slavery and sexual harrasment was so true and I really hope they they try and make isekai to how it was in the past. As always great episode guys. luvvvv uuu!
See its becuase people judge the show while the LN is where they explain a lot of these controversies. Nick says he never gets punished but he literally loses the use of his weiner for being so pervy and only gains it back when he actually falls in love. Also he says he is a 30+ year old man but he is a 30+ year old man who never develops because he never leaves his house so he has the mindset of a child.
When it comes to slavery in the LN they explain there is no way he would be able to free all slaves while he is powerful he would have an entire country after him and he is not powerful enough to defeat an entire country.
While def weird, in Japan you can marry your first cousin. So that is more of a Japanese culture thing cuz their Prime Minister in 2010 was married to his 1st cousin.
@@1GOBIRDS1people cant bother themselves to invest enough to really look into the details of things skipped in the anime and anime watchers dont understand the japanese culture..like 70% of them. Hence people dont get this and misjudge the show and its intent.
But you cant blame anime as well. Its not like they can think about every single demographic. They have to make cuts and hope people dont take it out of context..the context of which is not given.
@@1GOBIRDS1 "The questionable age gap is ok because he's a 30+ year old man who's actually a shut in and because of that he's mentally regressed and therefore makes it okay that he has inappropriate thoughts, feelings, and relationships with an underage character"
....WHAT
WHAT
That's the most brain-dead, out of touch with the world, delusional loophole excuse I have _ever_ heard 😭
And you can't always use the "AckTually 🤓☝, It's in their cUlTuRe" excuse for objectively wrong concepts. In some communities it is their culture to force marriage, kill, and enslave people. Does that make things right? No. Japanese culture simps with their shallow knowledge of the culture (which they literally just search up for the sake of winning this exact argument) love to use this particular reasoning, and it just baffles me that they think they're actually right. They type it out and act like they've won the argument 💀. Please stop.
@@1GOBIRDS1are you Japanese? because i can definitely tell from your comment that you might actually want to be one
@@aritrasaha441nothing can justify the child SA in that anime. Period.
It blows my mind that I've never heard nick talk about Inu Yasha for someone who likes action/romance as much as he does. So many iconic moments, wind scar missing from the iconic move lineup
make it homework for both of y'all!!
They are both „too young“ to have watched it naturally. I also forget their age regularly
I would like to believe they don't talk about Inuyasha because, let's remember, that when it comes to story writing, it wasn't a shining star. I watch it like 5 times a year. And often let it play while I sleep. It's very comforting. Buuttt. The final arc is so bad that it in no way should be discussed. But maybe that's not it.
19:41 I disagree with that the one great example of this is dead mount death play it’s amazing and a masterpiece.
Danny has seen Wolf's Rain, he's now my favorite.
Mushokou Tensei is about a dude who had a rough go of it in his original life, and even being reincarnated in his new life still suffers from past trauma and it's about his growth as a person and a character. Don't get me wrong he is flawed for sure, but expecting him to change the entire world and its systems is crazy. He isn't even an all powerful character, he can just cast magic without incantations, which others in the world can do. I would watch gigguk's review of the show because it's honestly what made me want to give the show a try and I love it
Danny's "wow" was said with so much fascination and wonder after learning about glazing
Nick won the draft for me the minute he said spirit gun.
I think it's a pretty big asshole move to spoil a big part of a show if it hasn't aired yet just to make a point, regardless of the fact that you don't like it. What kind of a podcast spouts endgame-level spoilers like that without warning? Talking about the jobless reincarnation thing.
hollywood undead is the best I'm so happy to hear nick loves them, he just gained more fans guaranteed
Them not doing black slash is almost maddening
The more I listen to this, the more I am convinced that Danny would like Log Horizon more than SAO. And Nick will also concede to liking Log Horizon as well.
Nick's argument about Mushoku Tensei completely misses the point
The main character is punished, but later+ changes as a person
It's a redemption arc
Man, I fucking love Hollywood Undead. Hearing you guys talk about it unlocked my memories of my also tiny ex girlfriend just belting out these incredibly violent songs.
Nick's entire personality feels like intrusive thoughts 😂
Can't forget about so I'm a spider isaki. That one is the one I want a 2ed season for. That was a great anime
Also probably the most popular isaki with a female MC. Written so well that nobody bats a eye.
He never changes!!!!! Sorry love you guys, but this is the absolute worst anime take ive ever heard. Rudy constantly changes, grows, and develops as a person. Change doesn't happen over night. Infact in this point in the anime hes not even pervy anymore. And he gets even better in the manga/lightnovels
No hate to you at all but I don’t fucking care if he changes. What Rudy did is not ok at all.
@@3RaccooonsInATrenchcoat you don't say? Crazy.
@@3RaccooonsInATrenchcoatWho said it's ok? Future Rudeus would definitely tell you that what he did was not ok as well, does that mean Rudeus doesn't deserve to be remembered for anything other then the guy who made a lot of mistakes in his life? Or the guy who overcame his flaws and became a great father, a great husband, a great brother, and a great friend.
Everybody has made mistakes in there lives at some point, some made ones that were worse then others, but as long as they grew past the mistakes, why is it that there mistakes from the past are the only things you want to talk about. Does a Pedophile not deserve the right to be provided help services if they have a drive to change? Does a rapist or murderer also not deserve the right to be provided help services for possessing the aforementioned drive? Sounds pretty reductive and dehumanising to me.
These people are the way they are because of a psychological problem, whether that's biological or through a bunch of unhealthy experiences(whether those were a result of there actions or there environment). They are responsible for there actions but they also have to right to be given ample options to redeem themselves provided they possess the will to change, no society is a humane society if all it does is bring people down for there worst moments and not be able to try and bring out either the best from those people or acknowledge there growth and accept them for there growth.
Imagine a drug addict goes through 10-15 years of therapy and comes out great but all people say and remember about him is that he IS a drug addict not that he WAS a drug addict and he's just better at controlling himself now or something.. kind of a pathetic response from the morally high class society now isn't it? Rudeus is being treated similarly to that drug addict by viewers I feel, where they are giving up on him at a point in time where he hasn't even begun to take baby steps and then labelling him by whatever acronym they feel like for the rest of his life. Really disappointing display from the supposedly morally just and superior modern society.
If Nick doesn’t love the new boruto chapter, ima be so surprised
As to why there are so many infuriating concepts (that have now become tropes because of how often they are used) in anime that have these amazing stories and worldbuilding, I think it comes down to the need to break through the noise barrier. If you told me, "hey, there's this show about the idol and youtube industry and its dark side" I would think I would watch it eventually, and then not, but if you said "Guy gets reincarnated as an idol's child and then goes on a murder mystery while gaining popularity as an idol himself" I would watch it to see how crazy it gets. And that's what I DID! I've only watched two episodes, but it got my foot in the door. The problem is that then these master crafted stories then have to drag the initial premise along.
PS. For your point at 46:00 God of Highschool (and I can't believe I'm saying this line) read the manwa (Webtoon). The pacing and story is fine because it's not condensed and chopped up. I speed read 300 chapters during spring break because I could not put it down. Yes the animation for the fights is amazing because the choreography for the webtoon is amazing, but so is everything else. It is purely a failure of adapting from one medium to another. If you still don't want to read it, the final villain of the series is THE best fleshed out character in all of anime and manga.
God, Nick, your “Hard work pays off” gotta say it like Torbjorn
i will say, Bryce Papenbrook voices a lot of protagonists in anime, and most I don't like, but he does an excellent job with Rin, the MC of Blue Exorcist. I think the problem with a lot of his roles is mostly casting and direction because with rin, who's like, a goofy punk sort of kid, his voice fits a lot better than more serious acting characters, like kirito and eren. his inosuke voice is just weird though, i have no idea what anyone involved with that decision thought they were doing.
He needs to see the abridged now!
The fact that Nick talked about bullet by Hollywood undead was everything for me. Lmao 😂
Yuji Itadori is canonically 15
ALSO i got so excited and nostalgic when you were both talking about Hollywood Undead😂 i was singing along with you guys while you mumbled the lyrics to Everywhere I Go and Bullet 💀
im living for the hollywood undead chat i had the exact same reaction from ppl when i used to play them hollywood undead as a teenager, just a massive nerd with a bubbly personality listening to all of swan songs on repeat
1:07:06 there's your new anime! A pickleball Isekai with Nick as the MC & Danny as the as the loveable best friend. Like a reverse Midoriya/Bakugo lol
"I once said i wanted to be stronger than the bomb, so i did, i worked way to hard like, i used to pay for time like this to rhyme like this, so i had to grind like that to shine like this, and the matter of time I've spent to realize is that i am the bomb" -my favorite parody quote
"Makes me un-comfy" and "I was an unsalted child" are now permanent parts of my vocabulary...
I kinda wanna see Nick and Danny talk about anime what if like what if Maki and Mai were born not as twins or what if Madara was a woman or what if Ichigo met Reji first instead of Rukia things like that it just appeared in my head
Am i the only one thinking Overlord is the only isekai treating himself like an isekai and beeing absolutely incredible for that?
Nick killed it with goku and bleach, side note tho, ichigo can use getsuga without being in bankai, it's a release of his shikai, the stage before bankai, it's just his bankai increases all his power, so he usually does them both for strength
I love this podcast. Also Nick was right on the DB reference
a lot of mis info and context was missing from your isekai rant especially with jobless but its cool ig.
Also the other two isekai he talked about as well
Eminence in shadow is not about the harem. Is abaut a Psychopath how wants to rule the world from the shadows.
That's my exact problem I'm like how could you even get that opinion if you have watched the show
@markjack9772 wdym how can I get that opinion? Cid literally hits his head at a rock to get superpowers at ep 1 and then Jumps into in to traffic, he clearly is not mentally well.
@@risiballabani8453 I was referring to the people on the podcast not you
Ohhh OK
Nick won the draft. Getsuga tenshou is a great pick. Kamehameha is most definitely the most iconic move in anime. Rasengan, chidori, shadow clone are probably the top 3 most iconic moves from Naruto, followed by eight trigrams 64 palm technique and then probably 1000 years of death. I would also go spirit bomb, dodon ray, special beam canon, garlick canon, uuh Vegeta's flash beam thing, hellzone grenade and Tien's triangle palm explosion technique. Rock paper rock by Gon is great. Honestly that, bungee gum and kurapika's chains are the most iconic ones from HxH.
Destructo disk! Wolf fang fist! Friezas death beam! Vegatas big bang. I'm surprised that no Inuyasha stuff made it in. Iron reaver soul stealer, wind-scar, or wind tunnel. Even more surprised that one for all smash or something wasn't in the draft. Dragonball has a lot of iconic moves, but it is basically the progenitor of Shonen.
@@kmartinquadeuce this is true! Alot of iconic moves, surprised about no states of smash
2:01:04 dragon ball kakumei ,great stuff
1:39:39 Nicks not wrong but hes more referring to master roshi’s Kamehameha but they mostly animate it the way danny describes it so lil 50/50 for both of ya
38:46 watching the video again but with Danny’s input
I dont know if I've been more worked up about an anime. Definitely not completely defending rudeues because he definitely has traits and does stupid stuff, and maybe I have become too desensitized to all things anime.
Rudues does have character development and shows his weak side many times. Also he doesn't view himself as that powerful and underestimates himself. He doesn't fight the slavery because he doesn't believe he can
Serious punch from Saitama is iconic, also season three should be out sometime this year so that’s really hype
Bullet by Hollywood undead is sooo good so glad Nic brought it up
Does he know without mushoku tensei the isekai genre would not exist it is literally the thing what started the genre of Storytelling it's the reason we have the good ones and the reason we have all the bad ones it's not the first one created but it's the reason we have so many as well everything he saying about his mother is not true as well as what he said about before he died about his mother
43:09 You guys killed me that you dont know the greatest sports anime ever made, Hajime No Ippo!
41:55 Im 40mins in and havebso many comments! Starting with "Bullet" from Hollywood Undead was my favorite song in like 11th grade (2011) cause I was depressed af and the song was speaking to me, but also somehow sounded way to cheerful to stay sad 🤣🤣. Runner up Hollywood Undeadndead song being "Christmas In Hollywood" 🤣🤣. On to Issaki, please read the Manwa "Return of Hero" is like a super dark reverse Issakie where a dude comes back from another world finds outfits beenb2 years and his life sucks. Then he realizes he still has all his abilities from the other world. And him justifing slavery immediately made me think of Florida litteraly changing their school curriculum to teach that the slaves benifitied from slavery and it makes me so sad, angry, and disgusted.
Man Danny I actually never really thought about how young Naruto always had his eyes squinting or closed half the time.. He used his eyes to express emotions oftene.. Anger had a specific squint, silliness had one, curiosity had one.. etc..
Honestly, I'm looking forward to Danny's violet evergarden journey❤. If there's anyone who could appreciate that work of art it's our Boi!
47:04 - Nick you're thinking of the demsey roll in Hajime no Ippo
Jobless reincarnation AND 2 hours long milkin the cows is gonna be so much more fun.🎉
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@@whitenobeardhey, can you gimme your handle
"A guy died!" Danny says with all the sensitivity of a 10yo opening presents.
Danny definitely won the draft this week
I get what Danny is saying about Akira and Luffy. I think how it differs from Naruto and other MC is they although for example Naruto isn't necessarily trying to inspire people, he is trying to do something lofty and noble and good and right. The difference with Akira is he's not following his bucket list because he thinks that the right way to live or noble or whatever, he's just chasing what he want to do for his life and just through his likeableness and good nature inspiring others.
from what I heard you saying about Mushoku Tensei i think you haven't understood a thing about it, because Rudeus didn't terrorize his mother before reincarnating and second you clearly have missed the reason why he was the way he was before going to the other world. So that should be enough reason why people thing your opinion is an L opinion ( I also think that way, because clearly you are trash talking without even understanding the anime!) and also you clearly haven't looked close enough for the chapters after the chapter in question for Oshi no ko also
The minute Danny mentioned the swing from Naruto I wondered when the sad theme flutes would come in 😂
The amount of misinformation in the Mushoku Tensei section is unsurprising. If you don't like the series, thats perfectly fine. I, and many others, don't expect everyone to be comfortable with Mushoku Tensei. And if it makes you uncomfortable, then don't watch it. Its better for you, and its better for everyone else.
What part of it was misinformation if you don’t mind me asking
I don't really think it's all that fair to say Nick is spreading misinformation about Mushoku Tensei. A lot of his views are just his opinion about the MC and I think his opinions are valid but I also think the opinions of alot of fans about Jobless reincarnation being a redemtion story are also valid. In my opinion I think Nick is right with alot of his statements but I think the crux of my argument for why the show is good is because there's no end of the week punishment for doing bad things. The reason I like Jobless reincarnation is because it treats the reincarnated world like the real world. In the real world there is no end of the week moral lession shown to us and the fact that Rudy still becomes a decent human is a testament to the argument that it's a redemtion story. However Nick is not wrong about some of his character traits and if those turn you off and you don't want to support the show I understand but I hope people give it a chance and try to enjoy it.
He got multiple things wrong. Talked about a huge spoiler as and doesn't understand the point of the main character at all. The character is flawed and never saw himself as a good person no matter how talented he is. He is a flawed character that does good and bad things and learning his way through the eorld
@DannyMotta For one Rudy doesn't steal his mom panties or really lewd her, it actual made clear that he doesn't feel sexual attraction for family. He does notes that his parent... indulge a lot and her boobs are huge but that about it. The only panties he steals is the mage teacher and she didn't let him, he did it without her knowledge (still a yikes move though).
Also he NEVER terrorized his mom before death or after. He was bullied at school, like real omg bullying where he got stripped and tied to the school gates with pictures taken. So he became a shut in at his parent house where he never left home, even staying in his room during his parents funeral until his siblings kicked him out.
Also. He makes it sound like he marries his cousin when she 9. He doesn't. Honestly that was a huge spoiler he dropped super casually. It not in the anime and probably won't be till like late season 3 or 4. But anyway he marries her yes, but wayyyyy later when they are both adults.
For the slave bit, Rudy doesn't dismantle the place because it'll be him place his own values and morals on a new world. Which is what the author was trying to explain I think just insanely poorly. And also, to dismantle the slave market will bring sooo much trouble on him in the long run and likely wouldn't work.
As for the girl brought, she wasn't brought by him. She was brought by his friend Zanoba, Rudy just tagged along to advise and made it clear she to be treated well.
With all that said, Rudy still not a great person, I and honestly most fan won't defend that. We know he has flaws, but the show is about his second chance and working to be a better person. But if Rudy too much to watch real talks that fine. I get it.
@@NekoMonkeybut that's still grooming though...
Getsuga Tensho is like ichigos Kamehameha he can do it in any form lol
Stars align is an incredible sports anime
This is why I want TBATE to be animated so badly because it’s all of the good of jobless reincarnation but even better without all of the bad pervy stuff
TBATE is Mushoku Tensei but take out the Rudeus's pretty realistic (obviously not entirely) journey of growth and self improvement and replace it with a boring dude that is only intelligent when the author writes slice of life and the second anything complicated happens MCs IQ drops to 12. Mushoku Tensei is good because Rudeus is shown to make mistakes and sometimes get away with them while other times regrets them in the long run. Just because YOU didn't have the patience and trust in Rudeus's ability to improve himself and see that moment of him in regret and understanding and realization about why what he was doing was bad doesn't mean the story didn't have it, just means you were ignorant to it because of YOUR choice to not continue which is perfectly fine and within your rights and stuff, however it does not mean you ought to be going around making false remarks about the show, because your reasoning is objectively faulty and not in line with the contents, themes and messaging of the show, so it's no longer an opinion but just slander.
Love this podcast! Nick, move your wrists away from eachother and you'll have the Kamehameha motions right. Danny, the Shadow Clone Jutsu is a plus sign with 2 fingers on each hand. Bankai is also a transformation so Nick's gonna have to stick to Getsuga Tenshou, Id argue the Sharingan is also a kind of transformation but if he said something like Kamui or Amaterasu then Id give it to Danny. Ngl tho, I think Nick takes this one, as much as I want Nick to get homework lol
Ngl I also dont like Boruto's change, it feels like its missing something but I think everyone else looks great too tho
after next week's transformation draft, they should do an anime fit one.
I honestly value Nick's Isekai takes less because he rides so hard for S1 SAO. Like are sure you can tell the difference between a good and a bad isekai?
This comment came out way meaner then it sounded in my head, still love the podcast tho.
SAO was a lot of people's first anime, and it had the unfortunate aspect of being both insanely popular but also questionably written (not unlike MT). So a lot of people will stan for it despite its flaws.
YABTAACYAB 1:20:54
keep up the 2 hours episodes!!!
yes
the insanity of SAO makes so much more sense when you find out he wrote the original first draft was made for a contest when the author was something like 15