I do think “shadowbanning” is real, more so to the extent of they won’t push your content for a bit while you’re under heavier moderation. I’ve had it a few times where after a strike or two, even if the strike is over turned my videos won’t go public for hours or days in some cases. I’ve even had older loop videos flop with 200% watch time, 150% engagement and they wouldn’t break 150 views, after a strike that was overturned
Unfortunately Jack was Defo shadowbanned on TikTok and on RUclips too. Look at the views of this video. It really seems like RUclips does not like content pertaining to TikTok at all as a platform especially comparing it to RUclips. This is the third channel I’ve noticed that’s been shadowbanned. Others are Tuv, and Moon, I can’t drop links because this comment will be deleted for spam. Both vids tho, were both talking negatively about TikTok, and were highly edited and optimized for watch time. Thumbnails were on point to and catered to the niche of each channel. No reason they should not have gone viral with Tuv having 1m+ and moon (at the time) having 200k
They guy shadow banned doesn’t “believe in it” lol. Just look at any account spreading “false information” or edgy or conservative information almost always shadow banned.
It is the way to check is to see your analytics. Your post shows where it's being seen. If there isn't any growth from fyp page you are banned. Lol we got the @mick9ine page shadowbanned
You did all this in such a short time mate, it's insane. I remember when you had under 2k subs but your vids were very professional and high quality from the get go. With the dedication you have you more than deserve this growth, I wish you the best in the future!
Words can't explain how fire your content is man, every second is so engaging and you can truly tell how hard you work behind the scenes. You're a huge inspiration to me bro i'm glad you're sticking to YT only 😂
this is my favorite video from you; watching this made me realize that failure is more entertaining and genuine than success lol also the b roll and changing scenery was a big help if the audience does this justice it should be a 1/10
i’ve been lightly following your struggle for stardom for a while now and one thing i can always appreciate is you determination to do so. every now and then your videos do really well but it never sticks and it’s kind enlightening just how drastically different a channels growth can be compared to another. i’m always rooting for you tho, i have a feeling you’ll eventually stop trying so hard and it’ll you’re fame will sneak up on you. i can’t wait to see the day Jack.
I love how rather than lie ab how easy it was for you to go up to people you exposed this internal challenge. As another creator I struggle with this often and never know if it’s worth mentioning to the viewers or not.
Tiktok is crazy. The flagging system is so jacked. Super safe videos still get flagged and restrictions... I can't ever imagine pouring so much time and investment on a platform as a business with such flaky and nebulous violations. Just another reason YT is 👑.
this is super valuable for people trying to make a career making content. Tiktok can be very discouraging due to the power trends have on what gets pushed out. The secret is to take these trends and twist them into original content, or simply ride the wave
Never seen this kid before, genuinely good content. This kid got it all, editing, animations, pacing, humor, charismatic, its just a matter of time before he blows up.
I constantly think about that short you posted about how only a few people knew Tic Toc-ers, but RUclips with long-form videos created a greater personal connection with people so more people knew RUclipsrs. It's interesting that so many people use Tic Toc but it won't matter. As long as people keep dancing and lipsyncing and not having any personal connection, people will always have a hard time naming Tic Toc-ers.
Love this video. It must be so hard to create content for a TikTok experiment whilst ALSO making videos about it for RUclips. Kudos for all the effort! I just followed your TikTok account to see what you get up to on there in the future!
I barley ever comment on videos but I'm definitely going to start commenting on yours because you seriously don't get enough recognition. Love your videos, keep going!
Honestly tiktok feels like it’s dieing already. People tend to spend less time on the app, because quality content just won’t get shown anymore. And well when people spend less time on an app, creators will soon follow. Just a thesis but this seems likely. Average session times and app openings seem to have been decreasing too. Epic video tho! cheers, Gabriel
Ive watched about two of your videos so far and I really think you provided some cool information about the algorithm all while keeping my eyes glued to the screen. Thanks for inspiring me man. Much love ❤️
TikTok is a lottery, I use it as a tool to grow channels and then never touch it again, otherwise I get frustrated with how inconsistent the platform is
I think that new accounts tend to pop off more than established accounts on TikTok because the algorithm needs to test them with a wide variety of audiences to see where they fit. In contrast, TikTok serves content from established creators to their established fanbases, and if the content is different, it won't get the same reaction (i.e People that followed for tech content don't want to see interviews). On RUclips, ParkerGames was struggling to grow his own channel because his established fans didn't watch him anymore. When he created the channel Craftee, he started uploading really high quality videos from the get-go, and it popped off
Amazing video, your rhythm and editing is hypnotic. While you may not have cracked the Tiktok algorithm this run, you've cracked the human mind... Good job!
Jack i appreciate your hard work and dedication you put into this experiment, you have earnt a sub from me. Although i've seen other comments saying that RUclips does not like to promote videos which speak positively of tiktok. for this reason maybe change your title to something which the RUclips agrees with, for example "Why Does the Tiktok Algorithm Punish Hard Work?"
From what I know, TikTok suppresses your views if you upload too many times within a window because it seems like spam. Although, my videos take a ton of time to make so I haven't had that issue.
YT is quite simple for, I hop on YT I see a James Jani video I click, I see a Jack Gordon video I put away all my distractions and watch till the end twice.
One of the best ways to gauge if your tiktok has long or high market success is to identify a related metric for content strength, and relevancy and its engagement rate. It is easily appraised using tools such as *phlanx's tiktok engagement rate calculator* or you can do it manually
Answer from a marketer: 50 videos in 7 days on a brand new account with one of the videos going semi-viral sends off scam/spam flags for Tiktok. The algo likely thought you were just a shell account stealing content and couldn't make that volume organically for a new account.
i remember couple years back you had 30k subs on yt now ur on almost 500k and its still not enough. your video quality is still just wayyyy too good to be only seen by this amount of people
I do think “shadowbanning” is real, more so to the extent of they won’t push your content for a bit while you’re under heavier moderation. I’ve had it a few times where after a strike or two, even if the strike is over turned my videos won’t go public for hours or days in some cases. I’ve even had older loop videos flop with 200% watch time, 150% engagement and they wouldn’t break 150 views, after a strike that was overturned
Unfortunately Jack was Defo shadowbanned on TikTok and on RUclips too. Look at the views of this video. It really seems like RUclips does not like content pertaining to TikTok at all as a platform especially comparing it to RUclips. This is the third channel I’ve noticed that’s been shadowbanned. Others are Tuv, and Moon, I can’t drop links because this comment will be deleted for spam. Both vids tho, were both talking negatively about TikTok, and were highly edited and optimized for watch time. Thumbnails were on point to and catered to the niche of each channel. No reason they should not have gone viral with Tuv having 1m+ and moon (at the time) having 200k
They guy shadow banned doesn’t “believe in it” lol. Just look at any account spreading “false information” or edgy or conservative information almost always shadow banned.
Shadowbanning is real bro wtf. I got a 700%- engagement for a week + my dm's were stuck on loading/pending.
It is the way to check is to see your analytics. Your post shows where it's being seen. If there isn't any growth from fyp page you are banned. Lol we got the @mick9ine page shadowbanned
As a masked cosplayer, I 100% agree to this. There some pretty weird reasons why this happens (like spam liking /srs).
You did all this in such a short time mate, it's insane. I remember when you had under 2k subs but your vids were very professional and high quality from the get go.
With the dedication you have you more than deserve this growth, I wish you the best in the future!
agreed
samee
Yeah, remembered this, but from 50k
damn, that was such a great video. incredible work, amazing storytelling
yo
Words can't explain how fire your content is man, every second is so engaging and you can truly tell how hard you work behind the scenes. You're a huge inspiration to me bro i'm glad you're sticking to YT only 😂
you have tons of subs how come this guy is your inspiration
@@GING173 l + ratio
this is my favorite video from you; watching this made me realize that failure is more entertaining and genuine than success lol
also the b roll and changing scenery was a big help
if the audience does this justice it should be a 1/10
Oh I hope
@@josheeb yeah he won't
i’ve been lightly following your struggle for stardom for a while now and one thing i can always appreciate is you determination to do so. every now and then your videos do really well but it never sticks and it’s kind enlightening just how drastically different a channels growth can be compared to another. i’m always rooting for you tho, i have a feeling you’ll eventually stop trying so hard and it’ll you’re fame will sneak up on you. i can’t wait to see the day Jack.
The patience you have to make these experiments AND document the process is FANTASTIC! I applaud you! 💙🖤🦋
Well thanks!
@@JackGordon very well done. No one knows how tiring it can be to spend thousands of hours on the most addicting social media app
I love how rather than lie ab how easy it was for you to go up to people you exposed this internal challenge. As another creator I struggle with this often and never know if it’s worth mentioning to the viewers or not.
You're a beast at social media
Great story. I always enjoy your videos.
first reply lol
Ok comments r working again
Oh I thought I was the only one with this issue
I think that was a bug for a few minutes, where none of the RUclips videos have a single comment showing up.
Loved the video man.
great video as always
lol, maybe you got shadow banned here too
Im suprised by how well you edited this,it feels so easy to follow.I really do hope the best for you man,you will be one of the greats trust me
This is all very achievable on TikTok, just not going to happen in a week. You don't need trends.
Nice
W FMS
Jack, the pacing of your videos is perfect. And the amount of research and work that goes in to these videos is amazing!
Dude i love your videos and you are slowly gaining more subscribers you tell a good story every time. As a RUclipsr, i am always inspired.
Tiktok is crazy. The flagging system is so jacked. Super safe videos still get flagged and restrictions... I can't ever imagine pouring so much time and investment on a platform as a business with such flaky and nebulous violations. Just another reason YT is 👑.
YT isn’t much better lol
You are great Jack, you’re videos are so well done I wanna cry. Seriously 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻good job
OMG my video about the cat shows up at: 4:31 haha I've been a huge fan and this makes me happy haha keep up the amazing work! Always golden content
I think the element you added of the reality of the journey of the video really adds to it. Really good mate.
this is super valuable for people trying to make a career making content. Tiktok can be very discouraging due to the power trends have on what gets pushed out. The secret is to take these trends and twist them into original content, or simply ride the wave
To be honest, the effort deserves a thumbs up. Most people would have stopped making the video if they noticed it wont work.
This video was so well done! It took me 4 months to hit a mill on RUclips, I should have done more thirst traps haha
I love ur videos
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Jordennnn
Bro you made me famous in both insta and RUclips by learning your algorithm datas💯 Thank you so much teacher✔️
I love the energy and effort he puts into all of his videos, quality stuff!!
Great job Jack!
Never seen this kid before, genuinely good content. This kid got it all, editing, animations, pacing, humor, charismatic, its just a matter of time before he blows up.
I constantly think about that short you posted about how only a few people knew Tic Toc-ers, but RUclips with long-form videos created a greater personal connection with people so more people knew RUclipsrs. It's interesting that so many people use Tic Toc but it won't matter. As long as people keep dancing and lipsyncing and not having any personal connection, people will always have a hard time naming Tic Toc-ers.
I suppose if you work this hard for the next 7 weeks you'll be at 1Million
Even gaining new followers in a week is a high achievement for me. That's a lot of effort there, hope you got some rest after making those tiktoks
Love this video. It must be so hard to create content for a TikTok experiment whilst ALSO making videos about it for RUclips. Kudos for all the effort!
I just followed your TikTok account to see what you get up to on there in the future!
Absolutely lovedthis new format! I was so engaged the entire time and you even snuck in 2 storylines! Wow!
I barley ever comment on videos but I'm definitely going to start commenting on yours because you seriously don't get enough recognition. Love your videos, keep going!
Babe wake up Jack just posted. And I think this one’s a banger frr!!
Oh frfr
Respect for doing this in public. I’d be too awkward in this 😂
Oh it’s hard
This man always makes the best videos ever
Honestly tiktok feels like it’s dieing already. People tend to spend less time on the app, because quality content just won’t get shown anymore. And well when people spend less time on an app, creators will soon follow.
Just a thesis but this seems likely. Average session times and app openings seem to have been decreasing too.
Epic video tho!
cheers,
Gabriel
You r the man. TikTok ain’t dyin tho
Bruh you deserve a million subscribers. Love your videos man! Above and beyond!
Thanks for revealing how wonky the algorithm is and how bizarre TikTok’s preference for content creators is
Dude love the vids man! Beautifully well filmed and edited.
Thanks Raul!!
You stories are too captivating. This is definitely gonna blow up
Ive watched about two of your videos so far and I really think you provided some cool information about the algorithm all while keeping my eyes glued to the screen. Thanks for inspiring me man. Much love ❤️
Let’s go bro. 830k in 9 months. 1000 videos uploaded. 100M views.
Okay listen, you are the most underrated RUclipsr ever. Never stop what you‘re doing because the people who watch you, really enjoy your content!
Absolutely love your work Jack!
Keep it up!!
Great stuff as always man, one of the best storytellers period. Keep it going. Just glad to be here before 1 million.
YES HE HIT 300K! cg jack!
amazing work on the video and congrats on 300k!! You're growing so quickly and I wish you the best of luck!
TikTok is a lottery, I use it as a tool to grow channels and then never touch it again, otherwise I get frustrated with how inconsistent the platform is
The editing and scripting/story is on point as usual. Awesome stuff jack keep it up and you'll hit 1m subs in no time :)
December 31 or bust
@@JackGordon No doubt, see you in 6 months.
I think that new accounts tend to pop off more than established accounts on TikTok because the algorithm needs to test them with a wide variety of audiences to see where they fit. In contrast, TikTok serves content from established creators to their established fanbases, and if the content is different, it won't get the same reaction (i.e People that followed for tech content don't want to see interviews).
On RUclips, ParkerGames was struggling to grow his own channel because his established fans didn't watch him anymore. When he created the channel Craftee, he started uploading really high quality videos from the get-go, and it popped off
This is top tier content my guy. You are underrated as hell haha
You consistently have great content with fun topics and amazing editing keep up the great work man.
jack I have to say the quality of these videos is outstanding. How long did this take to edit btw? Or do you outsource your editing?
About 5 days of working all day
I’m being served the same video over and over again with a different thumbnail everytime 🤣
What you did in 3 days was remarkable. You should definitely be proud! Thank you for always dropping gems in your videos
2 years later and this is still valid ❤. I really enjoyed this
Jack you’re a legend, loving these experiments
Nice to see a fellow Chicagoan!
Criminally underrated video, really good!
I like how you took some style from Ryan Trahan videos and mixed it with your style. Very entertaining.
Amazing video, your rhythm and editing is hypnotic. While you may not have cracked the Tiktok algorithm this run, you've cracked the human mind... Good job!
Jack i appreciate your hard work and dedication you put into this experiment, you have earnt a sub from me.
Although i've seen other comments saying that RUclips does not like to promote videos which speak positively of tiktok.
for this reason maybe change your title to something which the RUclips agrees with, for example "Why Does the Tiktok Algorithm Punish Hard Work?"
From what I know, TikTok suppresses your views if you upload too many times within a window because it seems like spam. Although, my videos take a ton of time to make so I haven't had that issue.
"Dont forget to ring my like button, and subscribe to my bell!"
😂
Your videos are so next level, Jack! I really like the experiments you do, no matter of the outcome. They're just very interesting to watch 😀
Okay.. I see the Ryan Trahan intro reference.
Your video quality is one of the best that we’ve ever seen 💯
That was such a compelling story to watch! Great job 😊
that intro seemed like ryan trahan's...coincidence? i think not!
This is so well made! Underrated!
It makes no sense why this is only sitting on 25k views. Huge quality.
The video reminded me a lot of Ryan Traham metaverse video! You both have really fire content
Till the 8.5 minutes mark, it felt like a 5 minutes video 🔥🔥 really nicely donr
almost to 300k bro!
Mid way through the video, Paused, I laughed and said, "I love this guy!"
You're doing amazing.
Underrated you tuber keep up the good work
YT is quite simple for, I hop on YT I see a James Jani video I click, I see a Jack Gordon video I put away all my distractions and watch till the end twice.
Thanks for the clearity
One of the best ways to gauge if your tiktok has long or high market success is to identify a related metric for content strength, and relevancy and its engagement rate. It is easily appraised using tools such as *phlanx's tiktok engagement rate calculator* or you can do it manually
Answer from a marketer: 50 videos in 7 days on a brand new account with one of the videos going semi-viral sends off scam/spam flags for Tiktok. The algo likely thought you were just a shell account stealing content and couldn't make that volume organically for a new account.
what's the sweet spot?
Your persistence is motivating
Thanks not a RUclipsr!
This man is like the modern day V-Sauce, keep up the content!!
poor guy.. you’ll hit 1 mil someday, you deserve it
Genius idea, this content deserves way more subscribers!
this is hands down the most underrated yt channel out there
This video and all your content really is brilliant
Keep up the great work Jack
i remember couple years back you had 30k subs on yt now ur on almost 500k and its still not enough. your video quality is still just wayyyy too good to be only seen by this amount of people
"The algorithm is the audience." Frightfully insightful ngl
This is how i discovered your channel, these tiktok videos!
Thought I was watching a whole movie...Incredible work, Jack!
Forgot to mention the Taco Bell guy in the food pov accounts 😭 nice video tho bro - The Taco Bell guy
Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer.
Amazing video! Well done. You’re so underrated.
You are my favourite youtuber right now...man how do you edit?its dope.
I like this video! For a simple reason of you may have failed on your initial goal, but you came out of it smarter. Good Video Jack!
“What’s your favorite social media app?”
“Can I opt out of this”
That’s a good one I use that app all the time
You give me so much second coming of captain disillusion vibes I love it
great vid man I loved eating my Trader Joe's cereal while watching it.
at the start he stole Ryan Trajan meta verse intro lol
You're making me want to do something loopy as an experiment in my confidence and to grow my music career lol
dude your content is so entertaing and your editing is crazy you should make a tutorial on how you edit!