EXTERIOR CLEAN UP ON IVANS CHEAP SALVAGE BOAT
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Welcome Back Guys. Mike cleans up Ivans big boat and tries to start the engine. Thanks for Watching!
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If the outdrives are locked and connected to the engines it would prevent you from manually turning the engine by hand. You should pull the outdrives before you give on the engines.
Yep the outdrive has to be pulled
yes & remove all spark plugs to have any hope turning them over
Take less than an hour to pull a drive to check😊
Highly likely that’s your issue looking at the legs - they’ll have serious water ingress looking at the holes in them - this will make them lock up, stopping the engines turning over.
Also - that level of drive corrosion will most likely be caused by an earthing issue on the shore power / marina where it was moored.
I was going to post that💯💯
yes he need to pull the drives and the plugs.
then send fogging oil or mistry oil let set for a few days then try. @@glthompson3933
I will always love how "Mechanics" look up prices for rebuilt engines... you're a MECHANIC! take a day to pull them out, depending on your access to a machine shop anywhere from 7 days to a month to rebuild, and a day to put them back in. Do what you claim to be, its not hard.
im so dissapointed in his lack of any sort to fix it up.. it was $350 and hes not even willing to check to see if some spark plugs have power or just pull the outboard which would take like an hour a piece.. like why even both buying the thing
Exactly. What would Vice Grip Garage do? A lot more than this.
@@apet1572 Yeah this video pissed me off, I've seen other youtubers work on older boats that are falling apart at the seams and they get the engines running after a little troubleshooting, part swapping.
Disconnect the outdrives and then try to turn them from the back and the front of the engine at the same time with the spark plugs out it has worked on the past with good luck 👍
As other have said the outdrive is probably locking it up. I can also guarantee the exhaust baffles are corroded and have leaked water into the exhaust valves. I’d like to see you guys rebuild it if the hull is good. Probably would take a bath on resale, like with all boats. I would also love to see someone change the motors over to diesel. Like a 4b Cummins or a ALH 1.9l TDI.
If you park a boat up at a dock next to an electric shore power point that isn't grounded, isolated properly, it doesn't matter if you have sacrificial anodes, everything metal underwater within reach of the leaking current gets eaten. edit... even the boats electrics can ruin stuff, if not isolated properly.
Had a boat with a lot of corrosion on the drives but very little on the anodes
Measured with my multimeter from the leg body to the metal frame of the stand the boat was on
Got 8-9 volts AC
Found out the ground pin on his shore power extension cord was broken off
For anyone that's never seen it before, it's electrolysis. It's very common on boats in salt or brackish water. Stray current gets in the water from bad grounds (not necessarily from the boat being eaten) and reacts with the salt. I keep zinc anodes on my prop shafts, rudders, and trim tabs, plus a fairly large one on the transom that attaches to my boats bonding system. The bonding system is usually a copper ribbon or wire that runs from the zinc on the transom to every thru hull on the boat. Outdrives have a couple of spots for zincs as well and once the sacrificial zinc is eaten away the electrolysis starts on the metal.
Please keep going with the boat content. Really keen to see what the issues are and how you overcome them. Keep em coming 😊
I'd suggest pulling plugs, squirting some A/T fluid in the cylinders, wait, and try again. check if the units are in neutral or disconnected from seized output shafts.
Hope you continue with this boat journey, looking forward to you getting the engines running and refurbed.
Hey,
I've been watching you guys from Australia.
I bought a boat with a "seized engine", it ended up being the alternator!
Glad you took the belts off, that's how I found it wasn't the engine, but the alternator.
After I sorted that it still wouldn't turn over, ended up finding a circuit breaker on top of the MerCruiser engine. It had a weird little switch under that breaker!!
After I flicked that switch it hasn't missed a beat since!!
What could a couple of engines and a boat generator set you back? Do a car swap with your local boat shop for the parts? Would really enjoy seeing you restore this boat to cruising condition. As always, another great video!
You cant use auto parts or engines, cam shafts are different due to constant RPM's, starters due to potential arching and explosion, carburetor different, spark plugs run hotter are different due to RPM's and the list goes on....even then OEM only, to many knock of parts on the market that break too quickly. Estimate parts required not including labor $28,000 plus. Think about it, out drives, power steering, linkages, electrical, bellows, etc
Stern drives probably locking up engines via driveshafts. Third party and used stern drive units sell for anywhere between 2k-4k each. Boat was about $80k plus new. In running condition it would sell for about 12k now. You might be able to get $3k profit after repairs.
The value yes would be around 12k. But not with that salvage title. No bank will loan on it. So it would have to be a cash deal.
@@daniels1st no such thing as a salvage title on a boat
Hey guys...pull those old batteries, make sure the converter/battery charger is active and operating properly before attempting any DC checkups. Pull those wreck of outdrives out and see if you can bar the engines over. Based upon the amount of electrolysis and how eaten up those drives are, 110 volts was leaking into the water from this boat or an adjacent vessel. Make sure all bonding wires (usually heavy green wire) are attached to all thru-hull fittings, engines, etc.
I agree. Pull the out drives off 😊
Drain oil first incase water mix inside take plugs out soak cylinders with diesel/transmission fluid mix put plugs back in and way overfill crankcase and through intake untill its topped off and filled to the very top. Leave for a week Have had great luck with this method in past mith the same inboards.
also the drives need to come off they could be locked up gimble bearing could be seazed
Dont give up ,would love to see you fix it up!
Nice boat Out drives Will do that If you're sacrificial anodes are not replaced regularly and those out drives can easily be replaced with used or new units . and if you disconnect the out drives it might be easier to turn the engine over but first make sure there no water in oil pan then put some transition fluid in the cylinders to soak loose any stuck rings .wile to disconnect the out drives . Great boat you can always get your money out any time you want
The prop and other metal parts corroded because no zinc anode was used, or the zinc was used up and never replaced.
Cool 😎. Don’t give up just yet !
You can take apart the two engines and inspect the damage, and you can always purchase two others if needed.
Undo the trim shafts / undo the 6 bolts 3 on each side / now p up the outdr & let it drop ,bang , outdr will come apart from transom assembly.
Sometimes you have to p/ up & drop outdr several times ! But it will seperate from transom
@junkyarddigs, Kevin and Mook are great at getting old Mercruisers going 😃👍
I would recommend a rear winch for the truck....definitely worth the cost
Engines don’t turn over. Maybe the out drives are frozen up so that why the engines don’t rotate maybe??
I would remove those outdrives BEFORE trying to get the engines going incase the drives are totally locked up preventing the engines from turning over. Just because the shift levers SEEM to function, that's no guarantee that the drives are actually in Neutral. Been there, done that.
You definitely need to remove the outdrives to rotate the engines the drives are probably corroded together inside and out. Maybe at least pull the upside and check in the cylinders
someone said the following QUOTE "If the outdrives are locked and connected to the engines it would prevent you from manually turning the engine by hand. You should pull the outdrives before you give on the engines." THATS CORRECT
great project
I would certainly be interested in the boat. I am 65 years old. Don’t have any money really bad finished in the boat worked on motors for 20 years.
But interested in the boat worked on motors for 20 years
Take the out drives off first they r so bad they can be locking up the engines
It's a keeper❤
take the spark plugs out and put Marvel Mystery Oil let it set over night
Put a trolling motor on it and use it as a River Camper.
If the out boards are engaged them.the.motor s won't turn....especially been so rotten...it's worth pulling the motor and going through....if not it's out for a sale...
This boat is. A bargain these were very very expensive new we used to sell them in the boat yard I worked at engines are prob not sized I suspect if u take the knackered out drives off they may turn over with a bit of marvel mystery oil lol a lot of the other stuff prob works but u will need to hook up house batteries to get that generator working
nice boat
If, and that is a big IF, you decide to work on this it will be a winter time project. The interior does not look too bad, take out everything, see how sturdy the wood is. It still is a small interior. Engines need to be replaced, all of it, engines, drives the whole shebang. It will be a 20k job, that is for sure. But don't expect to get it in the water anytime soon. Or just part it out, sell it as is, who knows.
I have a large boat and its great but its a lot of work and expensive. Your $350 boat is a cool challenge, but know your limits. This is probably not something you can fix and flip, but making vids of fixing it would get you loads of new subs. Even if the engines are resurrectable, youre still likely to need over $10k to make this a runner. Just assume you will end up needing 3x the time and money you think you will need. The good here is that Bayliner parts are easy to find and you're only in about $1k, no slip fees or accruing costs. As others have said, if the engines can be turned over and started, you might have a good investment or a cool boat to share with friends and family. Im taking my fam out on mine to see the eclipse on 4/8. So cool. I am Living the Dream.
Jeeezzz Boyz.
1. Disconnect the stern drives as they may be frozen with corrosion. Common problem, easy fix with a few new parts.
2. Pull the plugs and fog the cylinders with oil or ATF.
3. Crank it.
4. If they turn, compression check on all the cylinders.
4. If they turn, put the plugs back in and see if the motors run.
5. If they run and you've got an uncle named Bob, well, there's your sign.
6. If they don't turn, you've got a couple more anchors.
Interesting!
Great fun 🧠💪🤝🙋♂️🇬🇧
You've got a new break area for employees!!!!
Disconnect the outdrive then try turning over the engine again.
Make sure you cover it for winter have a company that wraps boat for the winter do it that's easy a 70 , 80 thousand dollar boat when it was new maybe more with the accommodations down below be worth getting the motors running for sure .
Keep it keep it keep it keep it….👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Please fix the boat. I can't wait to see it in the water. 🤙
Didnt even look in the engines could be an easy fix moving on after all the trouble getting it😅
Fill tehm with diesel. The rngines. Don't try to spin them full of diesel. Drain wster out will with diesel. Then pb blaster. For 10k is worth ur time maybe
That corrosion is crazy 😲
You should rebuild this one.... I I like it...
Come on Michael! What would Ivan do? Michael is the conservative one and Ivan is the go-getter! You can do it! 😀 Thanks Bros for sharing! Take care!
After pulling the outdrives you should next pull the engines because if the transom end and engines were under water you'll need to at the least, replace the starters
That corrosion on the outdrives is because the marina where the boat was kept was discharging electricity into the water.
Um no.
part it out headace waiting to happen
You guys can get that running
It will be really cool if you pull out the engines and rebuild them.
First thing to do is pull the plugs and see what’s in the cylinders. If no water then Pull the drives, they need to come off anyway! If the engines turn over then you may be OK to get this thing going. If not it’s just not worth keeping. These boats can be had for $25-$30k in excellent shape!
The motors look fine, pull the drives out. if theyre corroded like that, then theyre seized causing motors not to turn
WOULD BE NICE TO SEE 👀 IF YOU HAVE EXTRA TIME AND HELP get it done. People who can help you or use there shops to refrubish , replace and clean parts. And yes I do agree 👍 that transom will have to cut and rebuild on back with marine plywood, 3 sheets glued, sanded down, and then 4 coats of fiber glass resin,gel, and lots of marine glue, fiber glass resin allover. Then this boat a beast, and having help who owns marine electronics, ✔️ ✅️ 🛫 all.and RIP OUT INSIDE THE CABIN CHECK FOR LEAKS MOLD, ALL CHROME OFF POLISH THAT 😉
I’d part it out, get what you can and Run away as fast as you can!
Those drives are insane I have never seen corrosion that bad
The reason the outdrives look like that is because at whatever marnia it was docked at, there was an electrolois issue in the water. That is why most boats have Zinc's on them so the Zinc gets destroyed and not the running gear.
Def pull the outdrives off, spark plugs out and belts taken off before checking to see if the motors are seized. And also they have a tool that u mount onto the harmonic balancer and your able to get a 1/2 drive onto it instead of trying to do it from that little bolt ur cranking on. My mercruiser was the same way I thought it was locked up but I then pulled the drives and belts and got that tool mounted and i got it to turn over. That would your best bet. And the tool is only like 20 something bucks
If it's in gear and those lowers are locked up the motors ain't going to turn. Probably won't be able to put it neutral either if the inside looks like the outside. May have to pull them lowers of to get the engines turning. I wouldn't give up just yet.
Remove all spark plugs, spray in some lubricant in the cylinders , let it rest for a day and then turn on the key and pray and hope for the best.
Guys, work easy not hard, lube every bolt, plugs out when turning it, spray some WD-40 in pistons, excitera.
I'd like to see this project. This boat is worth saving - i am not a boat guy, but the deal is too good to not see it through as a project on the channel
Common for a marine engine to be locked up after sitting for a long time. Put some diesel fuel and atf mixture in the cyclinders and let it sit fir a couple weeks and then give it a try. The outdrive may also keep the engines from turning.
Pull the spark plugs and spray a ton of liquid marvel in and let it sit overnight.
I think it would be a pretty cool build. But I also think you should cut and run part it out and cut your loses. Make some money maybe.
Earth leakage caused the outdrives to corrode, pull them both and your motors should spin up. The red central generator, feed it some release oil, plenty in all cylinders the leave it a few days, water would have to get pretty high to get into it but condensation would lock the bores up.
Every body is given the advice do that and see what happens. What could possibly go wrong. Lol.
Pull plugs / fill with diesel / open carb fill with diesel / let sit at least 24 hrs. / Then see if Mt will loosen
Never try to turn a mt over dry !!
Its a fixer upper keep going on the engine it's fixable but the propellers are shot just shop around for those they get pricey so go for used parts for those u may get lucky
Would you consider switching over to outboard motors, you are going to have to buy two out drive units for sure.
Ignition good?
pb blaster in rusty engines works wonders
You can put little bit of oil down the motor and try turning the motor over by hand see it turn over
its a pretty nice looking boat layout wise. but looks like it needs almost 30000$ in repairs plus all the labor
pull the engines and rebuild them them both...do a collab video with that engine shop that does videos on you tube that way you both get views and can use the videos to help pay for the rebuilds...and while your having the engines rebuilt you do the rest of the repairs and clean up on the boat...
I think your engines are probably ok. Need to take the outdirives off and then try to turn over engines. It looks like some type of electrical current was running thru and caused severe electrolysis on the outdrives, eating them up. I also think your water is probably fresh water from rain collection versus being under water in salt. My .02 worth.
Come on, guys, positive thinking everything starts with a thought 😂
Money pit….run forest…run😊
Pour some diesel fuel down the carburetor too lube the intake side too the heads
Salt water ain't no joke!
If you want to use the boat yourself, and you are willing to spend a decent amount of money and work into it: keep it.
Else: clean it up, if possible get the engines going, and pass it on for a profit.
how boat and trailer ? keen
Somebody had that boat in Vermont
Fine the bilge pump and get it working...help with the water and rain down the road /
Those drives are definitely locked and they are going to prevent you from turning keep it going would like to see the rebuild if not what would you sell it for. Let me know
Forget all of that. Pull the engines and put outboard mounts on the back and re-power with outboards.
I vote for making both of them 383 stroker
I so want a boat like this. The engines I would say if it isn't an easy fix I would swap them out for two diesels Mercedes Benz. Because I'm cheap I would run on any oil I could find
Outdrives are garbage, most likely the engines also, but some parts may be saved. The generator may be worth looking into. you could pull the engines/drives , patch the holes and hang outboards off the back
come on you guys can handle it
Most likely the transom assemblies are very corroded. When you have the engines out replace the then too.
Use a cut off saw too help remove those out drive units cause nuts and bolts are no good !
In my late teens and early 20's, I hung with a group of friends who were into boats, skiing, and, sometimes fishing. My only 2 takeaways were that boats are a blast and not worth owning.
Come on guys, do a "Will it Run Video" Pull the plugs and soak them with PB Blaster.
Hi Guys,I har same Mercury engine 5.7 gasoline but I change to old Mercedes Benz OM606 TD diesel.Mercedes engine goes like a dream and not consuming a lot of diesel!!!