It really is worthy of ridicule. Not only the ancient Egyptians were black, but the Greeks, the Romans, the Hindus Valley civilization, China, Japan, the Mesoamerican civilizations... all founded by blacks! Probably Atlantis, too. Then after they were founded and flourished... Poof! They disappeared like magic, leaving those civilizations in the hands of their respective native inhabitants. The original magical negroes, going around the world creating civilizations out of nothing.
Modern humans come from Africa. The most diverse continent on the planet by far. Blks can produce Albinos with blonde/red hair, various colour eyes and various so called Blk complexions. Albinos Whiter than so called White people. Blk is the beginning of the color spectrum, White is at the end.
they claim Egypt heritage, and they are keeping say that Egyptians who live in Egypt today are fake, which is the most stupid thing I've ever heard loool !!
@@haidy9991 دى ناس عندهم شعور بالعار من تاريخهم وخاصة العبوديه عشان كده بيحاولوا يثبتوا للغرب ولانفسهم انهم على قدر المساواه معهم عن طريق الالتصاق بالحضاره المصريه
@@طارقعلى-ع6ه1د شعور بالعار؟ عار علي اي ؟ العبودية مكنتش من اختيارهم اساسا ف هما كانو ضحية والضحية مينفعش تحس بالعار علي الظلم لان مش هما المسؤلين عنهم. وعندهم حضارة عريقه جدا ف west Africa ف الاحسن يركزو علي ده . ونا متفقة ان المصري ينفع يزعل من الموضوع بس بنفس الوقت ياريت نرتقي في الردود
My problem with Afrocentrism is not in it's goals, but the behavior of MANY of its adherents. Hyperfocusing on Egyptian culture ignores Sub-Saharan civilizations that ALSO built pyramids. Many times it ignores that fact that Africa is a CONTINENT, not one nation that had MANY different people, languages, religions, art and societies contained therein. Once you start doing that you miss folks like Zara Yagob. You miss women like Walatta Petros. Then you begin to undermine the whole purpose of reacquainting everyone with actual African history. I"m team Africa for sure, but I'm team the intricate, nuanced, and dynamic Africa.
@@senxauraximili7106 yea that's true but people need to understand that we can build something far greater than egypt or even america. Ethnically the ancient Egyptians look like horn Africans, although we are from the same racial category that is their glory and not ours lol.
Prime well the whole idea of ancient egyptians being any “race” comes from people’s misplaced sense of racial pride to begin with. As well as constantly changing societal constructs of who is classified as black or white. Most people assume that all of Africa are of dark skin west African phenotypes.
I think you describe Afro-Centrism perfectly at 5:58 - it’s more than simply describing history, it’s political. And unfortunately, Afro-centrism has blackwashed certain aspects of history in favour of the greater movement irrespective of facts. For example, Cleopatra wasn’t black. She her parents were Ptolemaic Macedonians (Greek). Yet, it’s constantly argued otherwise by folks in the comments.
Cleoptra wasn't african her ancestors were invaders from around 300 B.C. no one is saying she is the Africa that inhabited the Nile, the new kingdom fell 100's before her time .did she represent the demographic NO as the south Aswan the capital where natives. She's not kemite she's an "Ad egytum"
@@ZeiBeatz - Right, her ancestors 300 years were invaders. That's doesn't mean she wasn't black African Egyptian. I'm sure she was born many generations after that. Being that she was human and all. If what you say is true than very descendant of slave women and white men just 150 years ago are European regardless as to who they may look.
The problem with afrocentrism is that its more about opposition of eurocentrism than really telling their side of the story mainly since afrocentrics only really talk abut black history and exclude any non-black histories including non black african history like North africa. So thats why its considered either a joke or just black racists. I think that afrocentrism should definitely stay true to its name about africa and not ONLY black history if it wants to be taken as less of a fringe group
I’ve been doing a series on Tik Tok educating people on African History and using a pseudo Afrocentric model. I’ve been ridiculed for stating something as simple as “Africans had great civilizations”🤦🏾♂️. People don’t take us seriously even though we have evidence for our claims, even when we’re non controversial.
@Luna del Rey Did you really just tried to claim that there weren't any major buildings before white society? It's funny how you are exactly the type of person that this video and people in the comment section are talking about. You literally proved the point. Thanks for that!
Actually, they were black and to believe their were not is to believe the racist dogma of people like George Andrew Reisner Jr. and his ilk. Europeans mainly white Americans started that lie to justify their racism and slavery. Here is just a small bit of my proof. ruclips.net/video/S_DD4nmyoss/видео.html It's live so it starts @13 mins in. and this ruclips.net/video/4QK7P0Bdpj0/видео.html Here's yours?
The main reason people mock Afrocentrism is due to these outlandish theories that the community comes up with by using the most far-reaching method of theory building... When you claim a race was at the center of basically all the "important" civilizations without any factual evidence it makes the entire community laughable. Take the Egyptian theory, what evidence do they have that supports the theory? Then compare it with all the counter-evidence on the subject, you'll realize how far-reaching this theory actually is. Even the statues of Egyptians clearly have the same phenotype of "Arabs", the black phenotype is quite unique so people would instantly know if some statue was depicting a black person or not. The core counter to this argument is the whole "white-washing" (or I guess Arab-washing in this case) conspiracy that seems to explain away any doubt, it's a great example of cognitive dissonance, and it comes off as "hey look at me, I'm special because my race was the creator of powerful civilizations". It all seems like a big cope for proponents of the more extreme Afrocentric theories. Afrocentrism is much more of a political movement than an actual organic group that cares about factual info. White proponents of Afrocentrism nearly all come from heavy liberal political backgrounds, they also can make money from writing books as seeing a white person support Afrocentric theories makes the theories seem more likely as it isn't a racial bias. Now, this movement is being supported by the political left for their own gain, any non-black person that criticizes this movement would be defamed so you don't see a lot of "disproving Afrocentrism" conversation at universities, businesses, etc. I don't blame the liberal party for using such a powerful tool, as most people or groups that wanted to grow would do the same. So, this isn't political I just find that this movement is interesting. I'm Asian btw, and I learned about Afrocentrism from an African female in one of my university classes.
It’s actually funny how hard they say that Egypt is being white washed even though not one time a scholar said that Egyptians came from Europeans or Arabs
@@darklord7069 The debate is whether Egyptians in the beginning have come from East Mediterranean/Levantine/North African people or simply Nubian/Cushitic like people. And whether they’ve stayed mostly the same since ancient times or have they drastically changed over time. No one truly believes the ancient Egyptians were white/Europeans.
@@PackHunter117 well afrocentrists making this conspiracy that every Egyptologist is lying and covering up that Egypt is a black nation. It’s really just African Americans with an inferiority complex trying to be something that they aren’t
But that's not the position afrocentrism takes. There are fanatics in every genre. It doesn't mean that it represents the whole genre. Just because they show bad examples of good rap in the mainstream doesn't mean that music is the totality of the genre. You could easily find level headed perspectives from afrocentric thinkers. For most of the African diaspora we are in European countries, which means everything they project is Eurocentric by default. They just don't think they are because they hold most of the power, wealth, and influence. They don't understand what it means to not be represented in media or other industries. I mean they got a 356+ year head start in creating that wealth and influence. So excuse some of the fanatic behavior, this is just a normal reaction to being pushed to the side for so long and only being seen as 3/5 of a human being. It's an over-identification that has to correct itself. But I don't expect you to understand how that feels. Maybe the Europeans shouldn't have been so messed up to people for so long.
You are 100 % correct anyone who speaks out against Afrocentrism is automatically deemed a racist and anti black. This is the very reason ideas like the Olmec were African are so prominent within the blk community. The very same thing is happening with the Trans gender backlash, if anyone challenges or merely asks questions they are deemed anti trans and bigots. This is how pseudo movements gain ground and momentum. I personally have been called racist, anti black and Eurocentric by simply stating the Olmecs were not African. In academia it’s is a known fact that professors will not touch on the afrocentrics claims out of fear of being called racist.
The ancient Egyptians were NOT black, black Africans had one dynasty the Kushite dynasty, who did not even rule for a hundred years. Afrocentrists also think Cleopatra was black when there is no evidence at at all. Cleopatra was from the Ptolemaic dynasty who were inbred, AKA who was the general of Alexander the Great, after he died his generals split his vast empire. All depictions show Cleopatra was white, a GREEK Macedonian. Afrocentrists are perverting, and trying to revise history.
Afrocentricity gets a bad Rep, they think it's an extremist idealogical way of thinking, and hating other races and cultures, but that is not the case. It's a form and expression of self love and desire of one's culture, the African culture, and being proud of your Africanness. Great upload Hometeam.
True, but too many whites, including most historians, have chosen to whitewash the teaching of the truth. I mean, Herodotus, the ancient Greek historian, wrote how all knowledge in Greece had been imparted from Black Africa. What, the Greeks did not know their own history?
It gets a bad rep because of how people in spotlight like to portray it. Its like feminism. Starts of being a great idea and then come the people who just ruin it by going against the definition and spreading hatred.
@Ario I got a name for you, "White supremacist" your all over the comment section of black videos talking crap. You are welcomed to discuss but stop the "drive by criticism" that is a characteristics of a dirty racist. It's either substantiate your claims or get out the comment section and go find a red ice video to champion.
We're allowed to love who we are, we're allowed to dig for truth because obviously a culture that tries so hard to kill off, steal & bury the culture of another would find it "extreme" if the whole world found out & we once again rose to power. Everything they stole, the world of lies they sit upon would come crashing down putting them at the bottom...that is extreme & that's ok
Something about you following this channel makes me really happy! Also as someone who has followed your channel since I was 13 and literally turned 18 today your content only continues to improve and grow and I am happy to see you are still at it so many years later!💗
@Gye Nyame Insight What does my sub count have to do with history? The channel has an inflated subcount, as this video among others can only get like 4% of the subscribers to view it over a whole month lol. Congrats you're the dumbest replier I've gotten all week.
Ofc. They have to keep their history seen as true without showing the pharaohs before. And even though cleopatra isn't fully black she repsected the egyptians more than anything
@@nikia796 Cleopatra definitely did respected the indigenous Egyptian but that usually wasn't the case with the rest of ptolemaics. She brought the Egyptian back to relevancy after her ancestors shit the bed in regards to Egypt.
@ryan worthy What are you talking about?? Cleopatra was related to ALEXANDER THE GREAT OF MACEDON. She was ptolemic. So how was she not White?? So staying in a certain geographical area can change your race?? SMFH
When will people understand that we don't have to be ethnocentric to be represented adequately/accurately? We just need to hammer the facts repeatedly, until people get it.
Unfortunately that strategy takes time and grubby patience something a lot of people don’t have so they gravitate to ethnocentric or ethno-nationalist nonsense to cause it can rile up emotions easier
Stop it. It's always been ethnocentric. Who started it first? Europeans spent 356+ years making sure everyone knew that white people are above everyone and now all of a sudden when it's time to face the things they have done to people, now it's not about race and we can be all one. What a coward move to pull.
Cleopatra VII Philopator was the last active ruler of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt. As a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, she was a descendant of its founder Ptolemy I Soter, a Macedonian Greek general and companion of Alexander the Great. Since the rulers of Egypt always kept their blood lines pure, its unlikely Cleopatra was black.
This is coming from someone with a Historical background: Afrocentricity isn't something to use, I wouldn't recommend it; just like I wouldn't recommend the term eurocentrism (which anyone from a Historical background would be weary about the moment they study something in Europe). They're both essentially the same thing, using racial boundaries to conceptualise an image of what a continent is. I've seen this used radically: Hannibal was black and so was Cleopatra (though she wasn't, she was a mixture of Greek, Syrian and Persian) are two examples, just like people use the Vikings to show white purity. Time and time again I've seen overgeneralising and people try to decontextualise Historical research to serve ideological ends. More often then not this leads to mass-assumptions that shows a "theme-park" of African History, that completely detracts from reality (and serves as a reverse kind of superiority rhetoric). Africa's has an extremely interesting History and there's countless examples of African civilizations which were revered: Mali, Abyssinia, Makuria, Ghana, Kanem-Bornu, Sokoto, Zulu and Songhai all come to mind. But the strength of analysing these is to do so in their context by showing, like Europe, African was a complicated place full of different peoples. I've seen people argue "well, Europeans did it, why can't the reverse happen?" Why would you want to do the same thing? Well, what are you looking for? Contextual analysis? Or to make exactly the same pitfalls as European Historians did in the 19th Century? No Historian worth their salt in Europe today would ever adopt a Eurocentric approach anymore, the first thing you learn in History is the biasness that comes with previous Historiography. Most Historians (unless your some sort of social outcast) would ever downgrade African History, in fact several most would make the effort to show African Civilisations in their context. "The Golden Rhinoceros: Histories of the African Middle Ages" by François-Xavier Fauvelle is a great example. Still, things like saying Ancient Egypt was the basis of African Civilization is not correct, especially since, for example, metal making more or less grew in West Africa at the same time as in Mesopotamia, completely independently; we just don't have any written records as would be the case in, for example, Sumeria (though not in blacksmithing as far as I'm aware). It would be foolish to say one place was the result of a continent's civilization, especially since some parts of Africa have been completely different from others Historically (though there are still some underlying aspects, such as adobe architecture and types of shields. We just don't have any written evidence as to why this is the case). I think the worse part of this is it's reductionist in nature, it seeks to reduce the effect of African civilisations by analysing it in the same framework as European ones and, inadvertently, weakens itself. In short, it shoots itself in the foot because you can't make a comparable framework, things were different because different things were happening. No one in their right mind would put a European Historical framework on, for example, China in today's world because the places are completely different. You can use compare and contrast methods, but you can't look at Han China as you would with the Roman Empire (though some similarities occur, which developed independently from each other). Don't think that the dichotomy still exists in Historical circles between African and European History. No Historian today would say that Africa was any better or worse then Europe, just that they were different and similar in some regards.
I don't think you understand afrocentricity then. It's important because a group of people already made their eurocentric perspective at the center of everything, especially in the U.S. we have no choice but to make sure we are not learning about us through the lens of people who never had our best interest in mind. That's why it's not just a historical perspective, but a political one.
@@_VISION. in today's world that's not an excuse. Playing priority to one continent (and implying it's interpretation is superior) is a lousy option, especially if its based on a revenge flick.
@@BorninPurple You think it's not necessary today but it is. In the U.S., history is told by Europeans from their own perspective, using historically Europeans sources, including when informing their own perspective about Africa and African people. Afrocentricity allows you to learn about African from African sources. The names and labels you learn about people from different countries are not the names and labels they provided to the Europeans when they created their histriography of events. You think because things are not literal or explicit, then it's not there. This is not the case. You're just out of touch. Youre you saying, "today's world" like racism is disappeared because the internet is here.
@@_VISION. that's not true for several reasons: Firstly, history isn't taught as a standard subject in American public schools (it can later be chosen as part of the curriculum), so there's no basis to say "history is taught by Europeans from the European perspective." It would mean any history for people is popular history and doesn't really count (and is romanticised based on ethnic lines e.g. Italian-American, German-American). Secondly, in places where it is (Universities) that's also not the case with modern historiography, historians being all too aware of the biases surrounding historical sources, with the addition that they use African sources if they exist at the time. In short, your level of interpretation is either the first year of University or from the 1960's, especially your "names not given by the Europeans" point, which is not totally true e.g. Mali and Ethiopia. Certainly not the case in Europe anymore or even Africa. Afrocentricism, like Eurocentrism, claims superiority as an interpretation over other continents, the difference being that this was in reaction to how the black community has been historically treated; that still doesn't excuse the methodology (also coinciding with the fact Africa's an extremely diverse places consisting of different ethnic and cultural groups) and is either a knee jerk reaction or an act of revenge. Ah yes, the "because it's not explicit" argument which is a very convenient way to provide a place holder when little actual evidence can be provided. Data would suggest otherwise but thanks for providing a point that can't be quantified in any meaningful way (and is also subjective); but hey, at least it supports your paradigm, right? The irony of the last statement is you could indeed purchase a history book from amazon and do reading, but with that option you've chosen not to pursue it. The agency is literally in your hands but you've lazily chosen not to pursue it. Instead you decide to just to lay back, stay in your echo chamber and say "racism exists therefore I'm not going to do any research." Also, why would you want to conform to a paradigm created by Europeans? Since by your recount (and history in general) these were used by European colonialists? You're basically playing the same game and lost it before it even started.
@@BorninPurple History is taught as a standard subject. You learn about it K-12, and it's a general requirement in your bachelor's program. So you're not many any sense there. You merely trust them to teach you without bias. It's merely you taking their word on it. It's quite clear that they are using historical references written by Europeans who didn't have other peoples (whom they saw below them) interest in mind. The founding fathers were so into their whiteness that they didn't even believe Germans were white at one point. That's how much these power people cared about race, and these are the same people who wrote history. Never have I learned about the history of Africa and slavery from Africa's perspective. Its always been from the Euro-American perspective. Which is bias in itself. It's still the case, when you learn about the Minos in the Dahomey Kingdom, the Europeans called them the Amazons, and that name is still used to refer to them. Just because you don't see it when it happens or recognize it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're just out of touch, like I said earlier. There's nothing wrong with eurocentricity, just as long as it's acknowledged as such. It becomes an issue when it's being presented as The Truth. Which it is in the U.S., so much so that people have no idea how history affects them. People like you just think it has no affect on the present. Data suggests what exactly? That's not an argument. This is also an example of people who are so data-oriented that they don't even have to present any data, they can just say, "data says otherwise". Data on what? Who collected the data? How was the data collected? What questions were being asked? Were they productive questions? Before you can solve any kind of problem you have to make it conscious, and then you have to understand it and it's historical context. Confirming this paradigm is the first step to solving the problem, it's not a sign of defeat. It's a sign of recognition.
Afrocentricism is a GOOD thing. If you study Africa you must have an "African-Centered" Method of Study. Otherwise you're not really studying Africa. Just as studying Europe requires an "European-Centered" approach. There are many types of study that help you find the complete truth
exactly. but I must say everybody has centric view Eurocentric,asiancentric,arabcentric but at end of the day it about physical and culture proof theres reason why Egypt last empire of Africa not fully discovered even when greeks and roman and ottoman came there wasn't nothing there except underwater ruin from flood
And after that he should write a series based on ancient african tribes and communities. I enjoy watching shows like vikings etc and always thought about how important it would be to also have these historic based series or movies for subsaharan africans. A guy like Home Team History would be great for it.
انا احمد من مصر مصري الجنسيه وبحب بلدي جدا وفخور بيها وفاتح البشره لكني معنديش اي مشكله مع العرقيه السوداء وبسبب ديني بشوف ان الناس جميعا سواسيه ومتساوين في كل حاجه الاحترام للجميع ولكن عندي مشكله كبيره لما يجي مواطن من اي بلد ثانيه يشكك في نسبي للارض المصريه او نسبي لاجدادي المصريين ويعتبرني محتل مع انه لا ينتمي هو لمصر ولا يعرفها ولا أجداده عاشوا فيها ويحاول انه يقتلعني من ارضى او يحاول يحتلها بدعوى ان أجداده كانوا فيها افريقيا انتماء قاري مش عرقي
محاولة سرقة التاريخ، هذا ما يقوم به الأفارقة و يحاولون إعتبار أن إفريقيا بأكملها لهم، حتى أنهم بدأو يزورون التاريخ و يقولون أن المحاربيين الذين فتحو أوروبا و الأندلس كانو أفارقة سود. بعد آلاف السنين سيقول الأفارقة أنهم احتلو أمريكا و هم من قامو ببناء الحضارة هناك، متناسين أنهم وصلو لأمريكا كعبيد. مصر حضارة مصرية لا علاقة لها لا بالغرب، لا بالعرب و لا بالأفارقة، هي حضارة تخص مصر فقط لا غير.
@Elegant Oprah Issue is likely with who's claiming to have the TRUTH especially when seeing attempts at blackwashing european history (cough black achilleas cough black anne boulin).
DR. JOHN HENRIK CLARKE, DR. BEN . Dr. Ivan Van Sertima and Spiritual Leaders The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, Dr. Khalid Abdul Muhammad, and The Root Master W.D. Fard Muhammad
MalcomX saidthat "Elijah Muhammad never mentioned anything about Africa". If you look at the NOI message it is based upon a mythical place in Asia, The teaches dont even mention Africa or the true history of Africans. I dont think there is any place for WD fard and his disciple, in African history. Maybe they are in the mothership on Mars somewhere.
Afrocentrist keep forgetting Africa is diverse, just like how South Asians, East Asians, South East Asians, West Asians and North Asians are all Asians but don't look alike, somehow people easily grasp this concept when talking about Asia, but not with other continents.
It’s sad that saying a country in Africa was black is considered some extremist position. Imagine getting mocked for saying that a country in Europe used to be white.
“Black and White”, are racial derogatory terms to refer to a people by skin tone. African countries have nationalities and ethnic groups. Just calling it black is an insult to the nation of people.
Roulette Rider do you really not understand where I’m coming from? I’m saying that many Europeans claim that ancient Egyptians weren’t black or were from “the Levant”
Kairaba Musa Sukai Good for you. I don’t think you represent the majority as one person. I’m melinated and I don’t refer to myself as “black”, it’s derogatory and has 0 legality behind it. I have a nationality. Black has none, it’s literally a derogatory racial term.
Roulette Rider I represent more Africans than you do, as I’m not the only one referring to our people as black. Also prove it’s derogatory... Also you do know that Africans have been referring to themselves as black longer than the Europeans have... you should be more against the term melanated as it erases one’s individuality and lumps you in with all dark skin people even those of Non-African descent. White people also have melanin just not as much, they to can be considered “melanated”. The term black denotes a certain group of people with similar genetics and shared heritage, thus it is used to identify our group. In no way is it derogatory
You should do a video on the history of modern African music and go over musicians like Fela Kuti, Mulatu Astaque, and Manu Dibango and their impact on Afrobeat.
For a people that for the most part dont like to read and preferred means of learning is visual and hands on learning I appreciate every video you make keep up the good work, I've learned so much from your videos and it helps me want to pick up a book and learn more
There are 3000 different tribes and 2000 different languages in all of Africa. That is astonishing in itself. This is something that is a fact about vast, magnificent beautiful Africa. Egyptians are the Egyptians themsleves. And Cleopatra the last Egyptian Pharaoh, who loved the Egyptian people, was Greek.
This video is mostly for africans in america. You neglected people like Franz Fanon, Steve Biko, Nkwame Nkruma, and many other first presidents of newly formed african nations presidents. They were students of this concept, all of them, in different ways.
bro...my 1 year old daughter looooves that african chanting beat you use in your videos...she just cant stop staring at the computer and smiling,everytime that beat comes on
Afrocentrism seems to be the same as Eurocentrism, as both claim other peoples' civilization, cultures and histories as their own. Both are wrong. Afrocentrism would not be a problem, if they just claimed Egypt. It is undeniable that there are aspects of the long Egyptian civilization that have been influenced by sub-Saharan Africans; that is, however, a stretch to claim it is an African civilization just because it is on the African continent. China is on the Eurasian continent; would you call Chinese civilization a Eurasian or even European civilization? duh? The main problem with Afrocentrism (much like Eurocentrism) is it has broadened from the African continent to claim everyone's civilization. I have heard these jokers claim to be the first Natives to build the Inca and Mayan civilization and the Indus and Mesopatamia. The problem is not because people want to feel good because of a history of discrimination means they have a right to make up history. Provide the evidence.
Recorded history and physical evidence confirms that Egypt culture preceded Greece, Athens and Rome. HIStory is written by the victors who live to write about THEIR story
No one doubted that. Egypt and Mesopotamia were the two first civilization. The first are Egyptians, with the same ethnicity as the Canaaneans (Middle-East). The second are Kassites, What are now known as Northern Arabs. No one ever doubted thar. Cleopatra was a Macedonian woman, so not black. The Egyptians are neither what is called now White of Black. Never were, and will never be.
@@user-jz5vw2lj9c Yes, Cleopatra was "White", and the whole Ptolemaic dynasty was also white. but, of course, it's just the rulers and the dynasty that was "white", the people was like today's egyptians (so neither "white" or "black")
@@Taha-ee4jz - Wrong. Notwithstanding Cleopatra of which I will not discuss because to discuss something so god awfully ridiculous as 200 years of incest would be to deny what physically what happens to human beings who undergo something so genetically unnatural i.e,, the infamous Habsburg Chin. The ancient Egyptians were black Africans. The Ancient Greeks who learned about civilization, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, metallurgy, philosophy, religion and the arts from them and had no problems stating in their writing who and what they were In 1980 Bruce Williams, of the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute, discovered artifacts -- originally recovered in 1962 prior to the opening of the Aswan Dam -- from a pharoaonic kingship in Nubia (northeast Africa) *300 years before the first Egyptian dynasty*. With that discovery, it's learned that Egypt learned just about everything they knew from Nubia and in were Nubian who broke off and moved north. And there's no dispute what race the people of Ancient Nubia were... well not yet. Herodotus -- an eyewitness -- stated the Egyptians, by virtue of their ^black skin and woolly hair, to the Colchians and Ethiopians*. There are nearly a dozen other surviving references in Greek literature to the race and color of the Egyptians, Aeschylus, Aristotle and Strabo, and they unanimously confirm the remarks of Herodotus. The Egyptians were black and African was so completely self-evident to the ancient Greeks that it was a commonplace seldom worthy of special notice. Now look it up yourself and stop spreading racist lies. ruclips.net/user/wPiyeatch?v=S_DD4nmyoss&t=704s and ruclips.net/user/wPiyeatch?v=S_DD4nmyoss&t=704s
One of my biggest problems with Afrocentrics is that too many are reluctant to address some of the bad things found in African cultures. Too many Afrocentrics get caught up in pushing this "descendant from kings and queens" view of Africa. The real Africa has some outdated and harmful cultural beliefs and practices that need to change. Name me some Afrocentrics who have address how to stop things like female genital mutilation,Trokosi, widow cleansing and cultures that believe it's ok to accuse little children of being witches and then mistreat them? Or how about how to reduce the rampant corruption that's keeping so many African countries poor? I've never known any Afrocentrics to address these things.
@Princip Mondesir Female genital mutilation can pretty much be found in the majority of the African regions. Negative attitudes towards widows seems to be fairly widespread on the continent. Widows are considered impure in many African cultures.
The western media has done a very good job on viewing only the negative side of Africa and has planted it deep into everyones mindset so Afrocentrics are trying to push the positive side. Lets get real. The only positive things the western media says abt Africa are abt animals.
@Princip Mondesir There are hygiene reasons to circumcise boys. There's no good reason to circumcise girls. They mainly circumcise girls and women to control them sexually.
@Princip Mondesir No widow cleansing isn't in every African culture. But it does exist in some. Widow cleansing in Kenya: ruclips.net/video/CD36cAkNq_I/видео.html
Cleopatra was Greek. She is of the Ptolemies, the dynasty began by Ptolemy the One Eyed, a general that fought under Alexander the Great. This is easily discovered by even the most cursory of research. How is this still even a debate?
Although me personally i have never really identified with the use of the word Afrocentrism i can say this. The attacks thrown on it are mainly due to the fact that it offers up not only alternative historical points but also highlights a large majority of african history the whites & arabs have tried to underplay. The idea of saying 'centrism' seems like a way of pleading plausible deniability when it comes to fully address African history. Mostly because our history is sooo inclined and shared with the arabs and oversteps the normal continent boarders issued out today!
I’m tired of the Afrocentric stuff. I’m not African or of sub-Saharan descent but I just want to read history. I love the sub-Saharan empires. Tell me about the Ashanti, Ghana, Kanem, Nubia, great Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the kingdom of Kongo, Mali, Songhai, the Fulani, the Zulu and the Xhosa! Tell me the actual history, not this nonsense. Be proud of the actual sub-Saharan empires! Don’t co-opt other peoples’ histories. I used to see the same behaviour come from Europeans and religious fanatics who believed Europeans are the true ancestors of Native Americans but it’s just nonsense. Now it’s the same thing with Afrocentrism.
Wow! As an 80s baby I never would have imagined all the backlash in this generation to what for us was such a loving and affirming movement. Its like all the bad (misinformation and preditory behavior) completely overshadowed the original scholarly, communal, and healing uses. Just looked up the word on youtube and it seems like this is the only positive/nuetral commentary. Knowing the impact it had on my life- How very tragic its demise😢
I'll be as afrocentric in every aspect of my life, if that's what makes me comfortable in my own skin. It's liberating & the natural thing to do. Of course, Africa isn't a homogenous entity but one can always find their own niche to fit neatly into whatever "ideology" some thing we're desperately aspirng to. It's actually introspection, right? I'm not treading on anybody's toes, but reclaiming a lost, illustrious identity, which seem to get under some ppls skin & make some quake in their boots, believe it or not. C'est menfui!🤷🏾♀️ I make no apologies for those, whose noses are put out of joint because of the "new me/us". Let's not dignify those pinocchios with long noses with our royal responses- we deserve better. Respect!💪🏾
In a description of the Egyptians, Herodotus writes in The Histories, “the Egyptians said that they considered the Colchians part of Sesostris’ army. I myself guessed it, partly because they are dark-skinned and woolly-haired; though that indeed counts for nothing, since other peoples are, too; but my better proof was that the Colchians and Egyptians and Ethiopians are the only nations that have from the first practiced circumcision.” As Afrocentrists see it, this passage endorses their case: In no uncertain terms, Herodotus describes the Egyptians as dark-skinned and wooly-haired. Not so fast. The key word in the original Greek of the passage is “melanchroes.” Contrary to what Afrocentrists claim, it does not mean “black,” in the sense of belonging to the black race. For that, Greek authors would have used “aethiops” (etymologically, “burned face”), the term that indisputably referred to Nubians and other peoples in what is today Sub-Saharan Africa. Herodotus does not refer to Egyptians with this term. Furthermore, in the very same passage quoted above, Herodotus implies that Colchians and Egyptians are of the same stock. Colchis is on the shores of the Black Sea, hardly an area inhabited by black people. Melanchroes means simply “dark-skinned,” a term that sometimes the Greeks even applied to themselves and other not-so-dark peoples, such as Syrians.
I remember after Black Athena was released, some pale thing immediately wrote a book to rebuke it, going as far as saying Nubians were Caucasians. I won't mention the author name or book so I do not give her any publicity. I wanted to destroy that book from the library but decided against it.
What some don’t seem to get is that the separation of different races happened long before Egypt was a modern civilization. There would have been different races and cultures in Africa branching out. Different humanoid species connected and gave us what we have now.
I think if we approach history with the most pure objectivity that we can, and stop trying to insert ourselves into it, you will reach the conclusion that afrocentrism is most likely the result of feelings of inadequacy and anger. As a black man with a MA in Ancient Studies; the REALITY of history is not favorable to black people if they are trying to ascribe values, and a historical bias toward Europe is less a result of eurocentrism than it is a result of the reality being that subsaharan Africa's cultures and empires did not produce very much in the way of progress beyond what was essentially early medieval technology; the problem is, relatively educated black people live within the scope of western civilization and want to be seen as people of consequence inside of the study of its past, and unfortunately we are not. That is not the fault of "White people", it is simply a biproduct of our history and our geographic situation. I am one of the few black people in my academic years who rejects wholly the notion that black people strictly defined, were not responsible for Egyptian civilization (They weren't white either, but they sure ain't look like me.) I love African history, it is mysterious and interesting, but it ultimately was not a relatively advanced location.
"Place Africa at the center of historical events and not props to someone else's story" then you proceed to name scholars in this field and their names are George James, John Henry Clark... Let's think about that.
thank you thank you once again these are things that when I was in school black history was something that was very swollen but what the Europeans owe what the southern does wanted to be understood in school was more about white American but we need to know more about ourselves and thank you and God bless👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖.
home team,since you're talking about people who wrote about the history of Africa in this movement,maybe you can include your thoughts in a future video about the book 'The destruction of black civilization' written in the early seventies. I forgot the name of the author but i recently read this book and found extraordinarily enlightening with regards to African history. what I liked about it the the most is how the author ties the histories of different regions on the the continent,beginning in egypt and the upper nile region across the last 6k years to give the reader a full picture of not only our history,but also our present and possible future. Without any exageration,I can honestly say no one can claim to have an understanding of past and present as a continent and as a people/s without having read this book. The best part is that he lists all his sources at the end of the book so you can go read up yourself.
Van Sertima was trash he literally lied to blk ppl teaching that Africans came to the Americas before Columbus. These lies have been passed along throughout the blk community for decades
This is a good breakdown of Afrocentrism. Molefi Asante's books really opened me up to the fact that we have our own views of history and culture. I prefer the term African-Centered today but Molefi paved the way.
I want an afrocetrist to explain to me why they are claiming every where specially northafrican while yall know exactly that africa is a continent not bood and northafrica were never blaack ..and due to race map northafrica and part of east africa is a caucasion race !! ..its stupid to convince me that who built this civilization in egypt lived there for 7000 and built all of that and then left to another place .!!!!!
Clark Atlanta University. School of Social Work developed an Afrocentric Perspective in Social Work practice as its major pedagogical approach since the 1970's. Its foundation is on the works of all those great babas you cited. Its embedded across the curriculum.
I looked up this video after hearing Afrocentrism and wanting to know what it is. I was told "Afrocentrism and Kwanza was mostly created out of ethnic insecurity." Idk how to exactly process that currently. Do you think that statement is a honest observation, just racist, or somewhat a little bit of both? What are your opinions?
100% true. When you have a whole group of people making bogus claims about their ancestors being the real ancestors of the Jews, the Japanese, the greeks the romans the British etc etc, it is clearly done because of an inferiority complex
Noble Drew Ali is another man who inspired the Afrocentric Thought. He often times is left out for a multitude of reasons but regardless I am thankful for all that you do beloved!
One harmful Afrocentric believe is that cleopatra was black when instead she was probably 1/8 or 1/4 black but primarily Greek. When blacks ruled Egypt it was the golden age. So what classical and Bronze Age Greeks knew as Egypt probably was ruled by what we refer to as black people today
اذا كان ادعاء الافروسنتريك صحيح أين حضارتهم بعد ماخرجوا من مصر وهل العرب المسلمين يخرجون الناس من بيوتهم او من دولهم ام انهم ينشروا الاسلام بين الناس وهل لايوجد فى مصر من هم سمر البشرة شعب مصر معظمهم سمر البشرة
U R a beautiful young gentleman, so sweet U appear an very interested about our history Yes I'm of 🌍 African decent. Thank U so much for keeping our history ALIVE.. LVU ❤ PEACE my brother 💋
UNESCO believing that Europeans were writing African history assembled 350 African scholars, historians, writers and archyologist to write their own histories for a change!
Great video. At the end of the day we will tell history from our own perspective and we don’t have to apologize to anyone! It’s always amusing to see people who have an extreme Eurocentric world view complaining lol.
The oppressors don't want us to return to our powerful ways of the past. We're at war. They're fighting for the eradication of Afrakanness -- we must fight to preserve it.
I have the book Afrocetrism from molefi Kente Asante and I TOTALLY RECOMEND to everyone. The book explains so well the concept, the possibles way to interprete Afrocentrism and how you can change your way of acting to a more Afrocentric way and why that should be important. I am very happy with this video. Thank you. Hugs from Mozambique
Love your videos on our history. It makes me understand ourselves more. I hate how the Europeans had the power to subject most of the world to their value system and it made our race and culture the most attacked and ridiculed while there's is seen as the ideal way to be.
@HomeTeam_History My concern about Afrocentrism is that - by your own statement - it evolved from a mere historical position into a movement... a politically and culturally tied movement. No doubt Eurocentrism is also often politically driven and carries bias. Focus on a particular people is not the issue, its the tendency to side with certain theories that bolster the perception of that people group on the world stage. Que late 18th and 19th century racial theories from Eurocentrists that made out their race to be superior to explain their nations’ dominance over the world at that time. I see a similar pattern with picking theories when fighting over the legacy of Egypt. After all, you mention a Afrocentrists being a part of a “culture war.” Perhaps the legacy of Egypt is more complicated than both Euro and Afro proponents would like to think? My critique is not to say that racism and apartheid shouldn’t be fought, of course it should especially in combatting historical oppression. It’s just that when historical analysis is bent for a political reason, we are no longer investigating what actually happened back then and why.
Claiming any race superior as you just did is the equivalent of the worst kind of bigotry. Speak the truth, for lies often times will backfire on you, and your statement is assuredly a lie.
Afro King the reason Mediterranean’s or other groups started civilizations first is because they did it out of necessity. Sub Saharan Africans lived in a lush fruitful environment so they didn’t need to start farming. Mediterranean people started out of necessity because the Negev was barren in terms of wildlife and plant life. The farming got the ball rolling for Mediterraneans and they soon spread farming to other cultures in all directions and farming led to writing and writing led to laws and laws led to etc. No longer were they hunter gatherers. We can see this absolute isolation take place in North America with the Indigenous people. American great plain Indians were hunter gatherers up until the colonialism because the area was so abundant with animals and natural plant life. It was due to how easy it was to get food/survive in sub Saharan Africa that made their societal clock start late.
One of the most intellectually dishonest, absurd and down right silliest, (and somewhat desperate) responses to Afrocentrism by Eurocentrist, was the attempt to disassociate Ethiopia and Africa by claiming Ethiopians were not Black. Also to a lessor extent this was done with Somalia. It's an uphill battle but the truth is starting to prevail.
afrocentric is European terminology tbh they know who we are you can see it from racism in schools its matter if every African globally know there history is what scares them
I find when people complain about AFROCENTRISM they seem to have a problem with Black people talkin about African history. Basically implying that we should let other people talk about African history.
At the end of the day it is the "victors" who wrote history. It has predominantly been Europeans in recent history who has had the privelege of writing history just like it was the people of the Middle East had the privelege of writing history before them. We all just need to understand that we are flawed beings and we can really suck sometimes regardless of race.
Theere is nothing like "Eurocentrism"!! It is one thing, if sciences as history or archaeology etc. are developed in Europe and the West. The first real subjects of historians and archaeologists were not Europe, but the high cultures like Ancient Egypt, Hethite Empire etc.! The interest in European cultures evolved later. But Afrocentrist have no interest in science, but try to use them for their own nationalist and racist agenda in the same way Nazi-archaeologists used science in order to confirm their racist worldview of an Arian origin of humankind, writing, etc.!
why wouldn't afrocentrism be ridiculed when you have people claiming literally every civilization in the world as black
Facts
The vikings were black
It really is worthy of ridicule. Not only the ancient Egyptians were black, but the Greeks, the Romans, the Hindus Valley civilization, China, Japan, the Mesoamerican civilizations... all founded by blacks! Probably Atlantis, too. Then after they were founded and flourished... Poof! They disappeared like magic, leaving those civilizations in the hands of their respective native inhabitants. The original magical negroes, going around the world creating civilizations out of nothing.
Modern humans come from Africa. The most diverse continent on the planet by far. Blks can produce Albinos with blonde/red hair, various colour eyes and various so called Blk complexions. Albinos Whiter than so called White people. Blk is the beginning of the color spectrum, White is at the end.
@@rogerdodger1790pffft. Nah man. But we all know 2pac was a white man.
they claim Egypt heritage, and they are keeping say that Egyptians who live in Egypt today are fake, which is the most stupid thing I've ever heard loool !!
تعبت من الأشكال ديه بجد
@@haidy9991 دى ناس عندهم شعور بالعار من تاريخهم وخاصة العبوديه عشان كده بيحاولوا يثبتوا للغرب ولانفسهم انهم على قدر المساواه معهم عن طريق الالتصاق بالحضاره المصريه
@@طارقعلى-ع6ه1د شعور بالعار؟ عار علي اي ؟ العبودية مكنتش من اختيارهم اساسا ف هما كانو ضحية والضحية مينفعش تحس بالعار علي الظلم لان مش هما المسؤلين عنهم. وعندهم حضارة عريقه جدا ف west Africa ف الاحسن يركزو علي ده . ونا متفقة ان المصري ينفع يزعل من الموضوع بس بنفس الوقت ياريت نرتقي في الردود
It's not just Egypt. They believe that the Europeans and the Chinese are also black.
All the land in Africa belong to the black African people the Arabs in North Africa and the white minority in South Africa are invaders
My problem with Afrocentrism is not in it's goals, but the behavior of MANY of its adherents. Hyperfocusing on Egyptian culture ignores Sub-Saharan civilizations that ALSO built pyramids. Many times it ignores that fact that Africa is a CONTINENT, not one nation that had MANY different people, languages, religions, art and societies contained therein. Once you start doing that you miss folks like Zara Yagob. You miss women like Walatta Petros. Then you begin to undermine the whole purpose of reacquainting everyone with actual African history. I"m team Africa for sure, but I'm team the intricate, nuanced, and dynamic Africa.
Idk why they focus on Ancient Egypt so much, we came from west/central Africa anyways.
Exactly
Prime because they want to attach themselves to a cultural history that is more respected in western society
@@senxauraximili7106 yea that's true but people need to understand that we can build something far greater than egypt or even america. Ethnically the ancient Egyptians look like horn Africans, although we are from the same racial category that is their glory and not ours lol.
Prime well the whole idea of ancient egyptians being any “race” comes from people’s misplaced sense of racial pride to begin with. As well as constantly changing societal constructs of who is classified as black or white. Most people assume that all of Africa are of dark skin west African phenotypes.
I think you describe Afro-Centrism perfectly at 5:58 - it’s more than simply describing history, it’s political. And unfortunately, Afro-centrism has blackwashed certain aspects of history in favour of the greater movement irrespective of facts.
For example, Cleopatra wasn’t black. She her parents were Ptolemaic Macedonians (Greek). Yet, it’s constantly argued otherwise by folks in the comments.
Jelijah Jai No. Both of her parents were Ptolemaic Greek. Her mother was also named Cleopatra.
@@goofguy316 Cleopatra is a TITLE, NOT a name. The famous one was Cleopatra VII.
Cleoptra wasn't african her ancestors were invaders from around 300 B.C. no one is saying she is the Africa that inhabited the Nile, the new kingdom fell 100's before her time .did she represent the demographic NO as the south Aswan the capital where natives. She's not kemite she's an "Ad egytum"
@@ZeiBeatz - Right, her ancestors 300 years were invaders. That's doesn't mean she wasn't black African Egyptian. I'm sure she was born many generations after that. Being that she was human and all. If what you say is true than very descendant of slave women and white men just 150 years ago are European regardless as to who they may look.
@@ZeiBeatz My understanding is her mother is half black. Her sister that she ordered to kill was found on one of the islands, and she was black!
The problem with afrocentrism is that its more about opposition of eurocentrism than really telling their side of the story mainly since afrocentrics only really talk abut black history and exclude any non-black histories including non black african history like North africa. So thats why its considered either a joke or just black racists. I think that afrocentrism should definitely stay true to its name about africa and not ONLY black history if it wants to be taken as less of a fringe group
Most north africans are not really africans that y
many North African don't consider themselves as african, they know where they come from. You should read about moorish , to understand better
I’ve been doing a series on Tik Tok educating people on African History and using a pseudo Afrocentric model. I’ve been ridiculed for stating something as simple as “Africans had great civilizations”🤦🏾♂️. People don’t take us seriously even though we have evidence for our claims, even when we’re non controversial.
not your fault most are in the bliss with religion
@cheanator Who is he and why should we care?
@Luna del Rey Did you really just tried to claim that there weren't any major buildings before white society? It's funny how you are exactly the type of person that this video and people in the comment section are talking about. You literally proved the point. Thanks for that!
@cheanator what lies
@Luna del Rey to get guns idoit
ANCIENT EGYPTIANS WERE NOT BLACK!
Actually, they were black and to believe their were not is to believe the racist dogma of people like George Andrew Reisner Jr. and his ilk. Europeans mainly white Americans started that lie to justify their racism and slavery. Here is just a small bit of my proof. ruclips.net/video/S_DD4nmyoss/видео.html It's live so it starts @13 mins in. and this ruclips.net/video/4QK7P0Bdpj0/видео.html Here's yours?
They were definitely not Black BUT EXTREMELY BLACK
@@Sekou156 yall are the biggest culture vultures
@@mickaylingovender8217 keep crying
@@BENJAMIN12M the nubians were slaves to the real Egyptians
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Yes
The main reason people mock Afrocentrism is due to these outlandish theories that the community comes up with by using the most far-reaching method of theory building... When you claim a race was at the center of basically all the "important" civilizations without any factual evidence it makes the entire community laughable. Take the Egyptian theory, what evidence do they have that supports the theory? Then compare it with all the counter-evidence on the subject, you'll realize how far-reaching this theory actually is. Even the statues of Egyptians clearly have the same phenotype of "Arabs", the black phenotype is quite unique so people would instantly know if some statue was depicting a black person or not. The core counter to this argument is the whole "white-washing" (or I guess Arab-washing in this case) conspiracy that seems to explain away any doubt, it's a great example of cognitive dissonance, and it comes off as "hey look at me, I'm special because my race was the creator of powerful civilizations".
It all seems like a big cope for proponents of the more extreme Afrocentric theories. Afrocentrism is much more of a political movement than an actual organic group that cares about factual info. White proponents of Afrocentrism nearly all come from heavy liberal political backgrounds, they also can make money from writing books as seeing a white person support Afrocentric theories makes the theories seem more likely as it isn't a racial bias. Now, this movement is being supported by the political left for their own gain, any non-black person that criticizes this movement would be defamed so you don't see a lot of "disproving Afrocentrism" conversation at universities, businesses, etc. I don't blame the liberal party for using such a powerful tool, as most people or groups that wanted to grow would do the same. So, this isn't political I just find that this movement is interesting. I'm Asian btw, and I learned about Afrocentrism from an African female in one of my university classes.
It’s actually funny how hard they say that Egypt is being white washed even though not one time a scholar said that Egyptians came from Europeans or Arabs
@@darklord7069 The debate is whether Egyptians in the beginning have come from East Mediterranean/Levantine/North African people or simply Nubian/Cushitic like people. And whether they’ve stayed mostly the same since ancient times or have they drastically changed over time. No one truly believes the ancient Egyptians were white/Europeans.
@@PackHunter117 well afrocentrists making this conspiracy that every Egyptologist is lying and covering up that Egypt is a black nation. It’s really just African Americans with an inferiority complex trying to be something that they aren’t
But that's not the position afrocentrism takes. There are fanatics in every genre. It doesn't mean that it represents the whole genre. Just because they show bad examples of good rap in the mainstream doesn't mean that music is the totality of the genre. You could easily find level headed perspectives from afrocentric thinkers. For most of the African diaspora we are in European countries, which means everything they project is Eurocentric by default. They just don't think they are because they hold most of the power, wealth, and influence. They don't understand what it means to not be represented in media or other industries. I mean they got a 356+ year head start in creating that wealth and influence. So excuse some of the fanatic behavior, this is just a normal reaction to being pushed to the side for so long and only being seen as 3/5 of a human being. It's an over-identification that has to correct itself. But I don't expect you to understand how that feels. Maybe the Europeans shouldn't have been so messed up to people for so long.
You are 100 % correct anyone who speaks out against Afrocentrism is automatically deemed a racist and anti black. This is the very reason ideas like the Olmec were African are so prominent within the blk community. The very same thing is happening with the Trans gender backlash, if anyone challenges or merely asks questions they are deemed anti trans and bigots. This is how pseudo movements gain ground and momentum. I personally have been called racist, anti black and Eurocentric by simply stating the Olmecs were not African. In academia it’s is a known fact that professors will not touch on the afrocentrics claims out of fear of being called racist.
The ancient Egyptians were NOT black, black Africans had one dynasty the Kushite dynasty, who did not even rule for a hundred years.
Afrocentrists also think Cleopatra was black when there is no evidence at at all.
Cleopatra was from the Ptolemaic dynasty who were inbred, AKA who was the general of Alexander the Great, after he died his generals split his vast empire.
All depictions show Cleopatra was white, a GREEK Macedonian.
Afrocentrists are perverting, and trying to revise history.
Afrocentricity gets a bad Rep, they think it's an extremist idealogical way of thinking, and hating other races and cultures, but that is not the case.
It's a form and expression of self love and desire of one's culture, the African culture, and being proud of your Africanness.
Great upload Hometeam.
True, but too many whites, including most historians, have chosen to whitewash the teaching of the truth. I mean, Herodotus, the ancient Greek historian, wrote how all knowledge in Greece had been imparted from Black Africa. What, the Greeks did not know their own history?
It gets a bad rep because of how people in spotlight like to portray it. Its like feminism. Starts of being a great idea and then come the people who just ruin it by going against the definition and spreading hatred.
@Ario tell me a written paper of European history
@Ario I got a name for you, "White supremacist" your all over the comment section of black videos talking crap. You are welcomed to discuss but stop the "drive by criticism" that is a characteristics of a dirty racist. It's either substantiate your claims or get out the comment section and go find a red ice video to champion.
We're allowed to love who we are, we're allowed to dig for truth because obviously a culture that tries so hard to kill off, steal & bury the culture of another would find it "extreme" if the whole world found out & we once again rose to power. Everything they stole, the world of lies they sit upon would come crashing down putting them at the bottom...that is extreme & that's ok
My goodness, how this channel has grown. And grown well, it has.
Something about you following this channel makes me really happy! Also as someone who has followed your channel since I was 13 and literally turned 18 today your content only continues to improve and grow and I am happy to see you are still at it so many years later!💗
Every time I see you it is a surprise to be sure, but always is and will be a welcome one.
The sub count is totally inflated. This video has under 25k views, I guess trying to repaint history certainly isnt paying off for the "home team" LOL
@Gye Nyame Insight What does my sub count have to do with history? The channel has an inflated subcount, as this video among others can only get like 4% of the subscribers to view it over a whole month lol. Congrats you're the dumbest replier I've gotten all week.
@Gye Nyame Insight Clearly I care less about my channel than you do lol. Getting salty because nobody watches your history revisionism.
Of all the pharoahs to choose from, they chose Cleopatra of the ptolemaic dynasty who were foreign invaders.
Ofc. They have to keep their history seen as true without showing the pharaohs before. And even though cleopatra isn't fully black she repsected the egyptians more than anything
@@nikia796 Cleopatra definitely did respected the indigenous Egyptian but that usually wasn't the case with the rest of ptolemaics. She brought the Egyptian back to relevancy after her ancestors shit the bed in regards to Egypt.
@Yaw F Hellenic Macedonian, Ptolemy was one of Alexander the Conqueror's main generals.
@ryan worthy What are you talking about?? Cleopatra was related to ALEXANDER THE GREAT OF MACEDON. She was ptolemic. So how was she not White?? So staying in a certain geographical area can change your race?? SMFH
@@ANTSEMUT1 ah i see. Didn't know that. Thanks for the teaching
When will people understand that we don't have to be ethnocentric to be represented adequately/accurately? We just need to hammer the facts repeatedly, until people get it.
Unfortunately that strategy takes time and grubby patience something a lot of people don’t have so they gravitate to ethnocentric or ethno-nationalist nonsense to cause it can rile up emotions easier
@@Saber23 good point. If only they knew that expressing the facts using art could do the trick without the nasty repercussions
@@benjaminlamptey1867 true lol
Stop it. It's always been ethnocentric. Who started it first? Europeans spent 356+ years making sure everyone knew that white people are above everyone and now all of a sudden when it's time to face the things they have done to people, now it's not about race and we can be all one. What a coward move to pull.
@@Saber23 You must be white
Cleopatra VII Philopator was the last active ruler of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt. As a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, she was a descendant of its founder Ptolemy I Soter, a Macedonian Greek general and companion of Alexander the Great. Since the rulers of Egypt always kept their blood lines pure, its unlikely Cleopatra was black.
This is coming from someone with a Historical background:
Afrocentricity isn't something to use, I wouldn't recommend it; just like I wouldn't recommend the term eurocentrism (which anyone from a Historical background would be weary about the moment they study something in Europe). They're both essentially the same thing, using racial boundaries to conceptualise an image of what a continent is. I've seen this used radically: Hannibal was black and so was Cleopatra (though she wasn't, she was a mixture of Greek, Syrian and Persian) are two examples, just like people use the Vikings to show white purity. Time and time again I've seen overgeneralising and people try to decontextualise Historical research to serve ideological ends. More often then not this leads to mass-assumptions that shows a "theme-park" of African History, that completely detracts from reality (and serves as a reverse kind of superiority rhetoric).
Africa's has an extremely interesting History and there's countless examples of African civilizations which were revered: Mali, Abyssinia, Makuria, Ghana, Kanem-Bornu, Sokoto, Zulu and Songhai all come to mind. But the strength of analysing these is to do so in their context by showing, like Europe, African was a complicated place full of different peoples. I've seen people argue "well, Europeans did it, why can't the reverse happen?" Why would you want to do the same thing? Well, what are you looking for? Contextual analysis? Or to make exactly the same pitfalls as European Historians did in the 19th Century?
No Historian worth their salt in Europe today would ever adopt a Eurocentric approach anymore, the first thing you learn in History is the biasness that comes with previous Historiography. Most Historians (unless your some sort of social outcast) would ever downgrade African History, in fact several most would make the effort to show African Civilisations in their context. "The Golden Rhinoceros: Histories of the African Middle Ages" by François-Xavier Fauvelle is a great example.
Still, things like saying Ancient Egypt was the basis of African Civilization is not correct, especially since, for example, metal making more or less grew in West Africa at the same time as in Mesopotamia, completely independently; we just don't have any written records as would be the case in, for example, Sumeria (though not in blacksmithing as far as I'm aware). It would be foolish to say one place was the result of a continent's civilization, especially since some parts of Africa have been completely different from others Historically (though there are still some underlying aspects, such as adobe architecture and types of shields. We just don't have any written evidence as to why this is the case).
I think the worse part of this is it's reductionist in nature, it seeks to reduce the effect of African civilisations by analysing it in the same framework as European ones and, inadvertently, weakens itself. In short, it shoots itself in the foot because you can't make a comparable framework, things were different because different things were happening. No one in their right mind would put a European Historical framework on, for example, China in today's world because the places are completely different. You can use compare and contrast methods, but you can't look at Han China as you would with the Roman Empire (though some similarities occur, which developed independently from each other).
Don't think that the dichotomy still exists in Historical circles between African and European History. No Historian today would say that Africa was any better or worse then Europe, just that they were different and similar in some regards.
I don't think you understand afrocentricity then. It's important because a group of people already made their eurocentric perspective at the center of everything, especially in the U.S. we have no choice but to make sure we are not learning about us through the lens of people who never had our best interest in mind. That's why it's not just a historical perspective, but a political one.
@@_VISION. in today's world that's not an excuse.
Playing priority to one continent (and implying it's interpretation is superior) is a lousy option, especially if its based on a revenge flick.
@@BorninPurple You think it's not necessary today but it is. In the U.S., history is told by Europeans from their own perspective, using historically Europeans sources, including when informing their own perspective about Africa and African people.
Afrocentricity allows you to learn about African from African sources. The names and labels you learn about people from different countries are not the names and labels they provided to the Europeans when they created their histriography of events.
You think because things are not literal or explicit, then it's not there. This is not the case. You're just out of touch.
Youre you saying, "today's world" like racism is disappeared because the internet is here.
@@_VISION. that's not true for several reasons:
Firstly, history isn't taught as a standard subject in American public schools (it can later be chosen as part of the curriculum), so there's no basis to say "history is taught by Europeans from the European perspective." It would mean any history for people is popular history and doesn't really count (and is romanticised based on ethnic lines e.g. Italian-American, German-American).
Secondly, in places where it is (Universities) that's also not the case with modern historiography, historians being all too aware of the biases surrounding historical sources, with the addition that they use African sources if they exist at the time.
In short, your level of interpretation is either the first year of University or from the 1960's, especially your "names not given by the Europeans" point, which is not totally true e.g. Mali and Ethiopia. Certainly not the case in Europe anymore or even Africa.
Afrocentricism, like Eurocentrism, claims superiority as an interpretation over other continents, the difference being that this was in reaction to how the black community has been historically treated; that still doesn't excuse the methodology (also coinciding with the fact Africa's an extremely diverse places consisting of different ethnic and cultural groups) and is either a knee jerk reaction or an act of revenge.
Ah yes, the "because it's not explicit" argument which is a very convenient way to provide a place holder when little actual evidence can be provided. Data would suggest otherwise but thanks for providing a point that can't be quantified in any meaningful way (and is also subjective); but hey, at least it supports your paradigm, right?
The irony of the last statement is you could indeed purchase a history book from amazon and do reading, but with that option you've chosen not to pursue it. The agency is literally in your hands but you've lazily chosen not to pursue it. Instead you decide to just to lay back, stay in your echo chamber and say "racism exists therefore I'm not going to do any research."
Also, why would you want to conform to a paradigm created by Europeans? Since by your recount (and history in general) these were used by European colonialists? You're basically playing the same game and lost it before it even started.
@@BorninPurple History is taught as a standard subject. You learn about it K-12, and it's a general requirement in your bachelor's program. So you're not many any sense there.
You merely trust them to teach you without bias. It's merely you taking their word on it. It's quite clear that they are using historical references written by Europeans who didn't have other peoples (whom they saw below them) interest in mind. The founding fathers were so into their whiteness that they didn't even believe Germans were white at one point. That's how much these power people cared about race, and these are the same people who wrote history. Never have I learned about the history of Africa and slavery from Africa's perspective. Its always been from the Euro-American perspective. Which is bias in itself.
It's still the case, when you learn about the Minos in the Dahomey Kingdom, the Europeans called them the Amazons, and that name is still used to refer to them. Just because you don't see it when it happens or recognize it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're just out of touch, like I said earlier.
There's nothing wrong with eurocentricity, just as long as it's acknowledged as such. It becomes an issue when it's being presented as The Truth. Which it is in the U.S., so much so that people have no idea how history affects them. People like you just think it has no affect on the present.
Data suggests what exactly? That's not an argument. This is also an example of people who are so data-oriented that they don't even have to present any data, they can just say, "data says otherwise". Data on what? Who collected the data? How was the data collected? What questions were being asked? Were they productive questions?
Before you can solve any kind of problem you have to make it conscious, and then you have to understand it and it's historical context. Confirming this paradigm is the first step to solving the problem, it's not a sign of defeat. It's a sign of recognition.
Afrocentricism is a GOOD thing. If you study Africa you must have an "African-Centered" Method of Study. Otherwise you're not really studying Africa. Just as studying Europe requires an "European-Centered" approach. There are many types of study that help you find the complete truth
exactly. but I must say everybody has centric view Eurocentric,asiancentric,arabcentric but at end of the day it about physical and culture proof theres reason why Egypt last empire of Africa not fully discovered even when greeks and roman and ottoman came there wasn't nothing there except underwater ruin from flood
@Ario .....what? Buddy you asking to questions at once
@Ario well....you can study but to be legit since history was rewritten to confuse people is all about physical proof 😁
@Ario please elborate because history was written by who reign supreme remember 5 dollar indian sham
@Ario it was until idiots rewrite it ages ago why you think egyptology exists?
Yo you should write a history book like from the beginning till know
Shifu Sage that was an accident
Shifu Sage do you have any history book suggestions
If he writes a book he will be a millionaire. I hope he can open schools in African countries teaching history.
And after that he should write a series based on ancient african tribes and communities. I enjoy watching shows like vikings etc and always thought about how important it would be to also have these historic based series or movies for subsaharan africans. A guy like Home Team History would be great for it.
Abayomi Usi true and if it makes it unto a platform like Netflix he will be able to teach a lot of people
انا احمد من مصر مصري الجنسيه وبحب بلدي جدا وفخور بيها وفاتح البشره لكني معنديش اي مشكله مع العرقيه السوداء وبسبب ديني بشوف ان الناس جميعا سواسيه ومتساوين في كل حاجه الاحترام للجميع ولكن عندي مشكله كبيره لما يجي مواطن من اي بلد ثانيه يشكك في نسبي للارض المصريه او نسبي لاجدادي المصريين ويعتبرني محتل مع انه لا ينتمي هو لمصر ولا يعرفها ولا أجداده عاشوا فيها ويحاول انه يقتلعني من ارضى او يحاول يحتلها بدعوى ان أجداده كانوا فيها افريقيا انتماء قاري مش عرقي
محاولة سرقة التاريخ، هذا ما يقوم به الأفارقة و يحاولون إعتبار أن إفريقيا بأكملها لهم، حتى أنهم بدأو يزورون التاريخ و يقولون أن المحاربيين الذين فتحو أوروبا و الأندلس كانو أفارقة سود. بعد آلاف السنين سيقول الأفارقة أنهم احتلو أمريكا و هم من قامو ببناء الحضارة هناك، متناسين أنهم وصلو لأمريكا كعبيد. مصر حضارة مصرية لا علاقة لها لا بالغرب، لا بالعرب و لا بالأفارقة، هي حضارة تخص مصر فقط لا غير.
@@hamzanouali6051 بيقولو ان الساموراي كانو سود !
ميعرفوش انهم كانو عبيد في مصر القديمه 😂
It is also about reporting and teaching the TRUTH, and not the whitewashed version of history.
lol ok
And you are claiming you were the original (insert established ethnic group)
@Elegant Oprah Issue is likely with who's claiming to have the TRUTH especially when seeing attempts at blackwashing european history (cough black achilleas cough black anne boulin).
Ancient Egyptians were not black
Yep we have a Afrocentric School here in Columbus Ohio. It's a very nice looking campus.
@The Invisible Man Afrocentric Early College.
My cousin Jordan Horston went to school there! Probably their greatest basketball player and WNBA bound!
Accredited by trump university.
@@thomaskeefer5723 citation needed
@@thomaskeefer5723 citation needed
DR. JOHN HENRIK CLARKE, DR. BEN . Dr. Ivan Van Sertima and Spiritual Leaders The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, Dr. Khalid Abdul Muhammad, and The Root Master W.D. Fard Muhammad
MalcomX saidthat "Elijah Muhammad never mentioned anything about Africa". If you look at the NOI message it is based upon a mythical place in Asia, The teaches dont even mention Africa or the true history of Africans. I dont think there is any place for WD fard and his disciple, in African history. Maybe they are in the mothership on Mars somewhere.
All charlatans
I love Dr Yosef Ben Jocannan and Dr John Henrik Clarke i can listen to both of them all day. Great Teacheds
Therefore, Afro-centrism is a social justice movement not a historical method of surveying and cataloguing Sub-Saharan African history.
I have followed your video postings for quite some time. You are a dedicated champion of this history and a valuable resource. Thank you
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JUSTICE FOR BREONNA TAYLOR
Who
Teaching black folks 2 + 2 = 6 doesn't help our people. We should be searching for the truth whether ot shows us in a negative or positive light.
This is gonna be controversial, I can already see it
LOL...
Oh, looks like I was wrong lmfao
crtbullock72 Nah just give the guys sometime for the culture war to happen😉
@stevie yanuza exactly. even if egypt was black, there are so many more black kingdoms these people do not appreciate. it's sad, honestly.
Are you Egyptian or were you in ancient egypt
They build pyramids but forgot to make underwear for themselves.
Afrocentrist keep forgetting Africa is diverse, just like how South Asians, East Asians, South East Asians, West Asians and North Asians are all Asians but don't look alike, somehow people easily grasp this concept when talking about Asia, but not with other continents.
It’s sad that saying a country in Africa was black is considered some extremist position. Imagine getting mocked for saying that a country in Europe used to be white.
“Black and White”, are racial derogatory terms to refer to a people by skin tone. African countries have nationalities and ethnic groups. Just calling it black is an insult to the nation of people.
Roulette Rider I’ve never been insulted by being called black...
Roulette Rider do you really not understand where I’m coming from? I’m saying that many Europeans claim that ancient Egyptians weren’t black or were from “the Levant”
Kairaba Musa Sukai
Good for you. I don’t think you represent the majority as one person. I’m melinated and I don’t refer to myself as “black”, it’s derogatory and has 0 legality behind it. I have a nationality. Black has none, it’s literally a derogatory racial term.
Roulette Rider I represent more Africans than you do, as I’m not the only one referring to our people as black. Also prove it’s derogatory... Also you do know that Africans have been referring to themselves as black longer than the Europeans have... you should be more against the term melanated as it erases one’s individuality and lumps you in with all dark skin people even those of Non-African descent. White people also have melanin just not as much, they to can be considered “melanated”. The term black denotes a certain group of people with similar genetics and shared heritage, thus it is used to identify our group. In no way is it derogatory
afrocentrics try not to talk about the moors every 5 seconds any% ultimate challenge impossible edition.
You should do a video on the history of modern African music and go over musicians like Fela Kuti, Mulatu Astaque, and Manu Dibango and their impact on Afrobeat.
Or you could do it yourself instead of waiting for someone else to achieve a idea that was originally yours 🙂
😂😂
For a people that for the most part dont like to read and preferred means of learning is visual and hands on learning I appreciate every video you make keep up the good work, I've learned so much from your videos and it helps me want to pick up a book and learn more
There are 3000 different tribes and 2000 different languages in all of Africa. That is astonishing in itself. This is something that is a fact about vast, magnificent beautiful Africa. Egyptians are the Egyptians themsleves. And Cleopatra the last Egyptian Pharaoh, who loved the Egyptian people, was Greek.
Well said
Know thyself remember your ancestors!
This video is mostly for africans in america. You neglected people like Franz Fanon, Steve Biko, Nkwame Nkruma, and many other first presidents of newly formed african nations presidents. They were students of this concept, all of them, in different ways.
The only one I know here is Steve Biko do you have any resources to learn about the others?
Franz Fanon is quite a character as a Pan-Africanist. But I do agree with your point.
Egypt for Egyptian
Exactly not for Arabs
bro...my 1 year old daughter looooves that african chanting beat you use in your videos...she just cant stop staring at the computer and smiling,everytime that beat comes on
Afrocentrism seems to be the same as Eurocentrism, as both claim other peoples' civilization, cultures and histories as their own. Both are wrong. Afrocentrism would not be a problem, if they just claimed Egypt. It is undeniable that there are aspects of the long Egyptian civilization that have been influenced by sub-Saharan Africans; that is, however, a stretch to claim it is an African civilization just because it is on the African continent. China is on the Eurasian continent; would you call Chinese civilization a Eurasian or even European civilization? duh? The main problem with Afrocentrism (much like Eurocentrism) is it has broadened from the African continent to claim everyone's civilization. I have heard these jokers claim to be the first Natives to build the Inca and Mayan civilization and the Indus and Mesopatamia. The problem is not because people want to feel good because of a history of discrimination means they have a right to make up history. Provide the evidence.
Exactly they claim every damn culture and ethnicity on the planet. Afrocentrism is racist no better than Eurocentrism
Recorded history and physical evidence confirms that Egypt culture preceded Greece, Athens and Rome. HIStory is written by the victors who live to write about THEIR story
Making up lies I see nobody said such things
No one doubted that. Egypt and Mesopotamia were the two first civilization. The first are Egyptians, with the same ethnicity as the Canaaneans (Middle-East). The second are Kassites, What are now known as Northern Arabs. No one ever doubted thar. Cleopatra was a Macedonian woman, so not black.
The Egyptians are neither what is called now White of Black. Never were, and will never be.
@Veritas No, ancient Egyptians didn't say that.
@@user-jz5vw2lj9c Yes, Cleopatra was "White", and the whole Ptolemaic dynasty was also white. but, of course, it's just the rulers and the dynasty that was "white", the people was like today's egyptians (so neither "white" or "black")
@@Taha-ee4jz - Wrong. Notwithstanding Cleopatra of which I will not discuss because to discuss something so god awfully ridiculous as 200 years of incest would be to deny what physically what happens to human beings who undergo something so genetically unnatural i.e,, the infamous Habsburg Chin. The ancient Egyptians were black Africans. The Ancient Greeks who learned about civilization, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, metallurgy, philosophy, religion and the arts from them and had no problems stating in their writing who and what they were
In 1980 Bruce Williams, of the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute, discovered artifacts -- originally recovered in 1962 prior to the opening of the Aswan Dam -- from a pharoaonic kingship in Nubia (northeast Africa) *300 years before the first Egyptian dynasty*. With that discovery, it's learned that Egypt learned just about everything they knew from Nubia and in were Nubian who broke off and moved north. And there's no dispute what race the people of Ancient Nubia were... well not yet. Herodotus -- an eyewitness -- stated the Egyptians, by virtue of their ^black skin and woolly hair, to the Colchians and Ethiopians*. There are nearly a dozen other surviving references in Greek literature to the race and color of the Egyptians, Aeschylus, Aristotle and Strabo, and they unanimously confirm the remarks of Herodotus. The Egyptians were black and African was so completely self-evident to the ancient Greeks that it was a commonplace seldom worthy of special notice. Now look it up yourself and stop spreading racist lies. ruclips.net/user/wPiyeatch?v=S_DD4nmyoss&t=704s and ruclips.net/user/wPiyeatch?v=S_DD4nmyoss&t=704s
One of my biggest problems with Afrocentrics is that too many are reluctant to address some of the bad things found in African cultures. Too many Afrocentrics get caught up in pushing this "descendant from kings and queens" view of Africa.
The real Africa has some outdated and harmful cultural beliefs and practices that need to change. Name me some Afrocentrics who have address how to stop things like female genital mutilation,Trokosi, widow cleansing and cultures that believe it's ok to accuse little children of being witches and then mistreat them?
Or how about how to reduce the rampant corruption that's keeping so many African countries poor?
I've never known any Afrocentrics to address these things.
@Princip Mondesir
Female genital mutilation can pretty much be found in the majority of the African regions.
Negative attitudes towards widows seems to be fairly widespread on the continent. Widows are considered impure in many African cultures.
The western media has done a very good job on viewing only the negative side of Africa and has planted it deep into everyones mindset so Afrocentrics are trying to push the positive side. Lets get real. The only positive things the western media says abt Africa are abt animals.
@Princip Mondesir
There are hygiene reasons to circumcise boys. There's no good reason to circumcise girls. They mainly circumcise girls and women to control them sexually.
@Princip Mondesir
No widow cleansing isn't in every African culture. But it does exist in some.
Widow cleansing in Kenya:
ruclips.net/video/CD36cAkNq_I/видео.html
Young girls enslaved under Trokosi:
ruclips.net/video/05nzPiXUkdw/видео.html
Cleopatra was Greek. She is of the Ptolemies, the dynasty began by Ptolemy the One Eyed, a general that fought under Alexander the Great. This is easily discovered by even the most cursory of research. How is this still even a debate?
Although me personally i have never really identified with the use of the word Afrocentrism i can say this. The attacks thrown on it are mainly due to the fact that it offers up not only alternative historical points but also highlights a large majority of african history the whites & arabs have tried to underplay. The idea of saying 'centrism' seems like a way of pleading plausible deniability when it comes to fully address African history. Mostly because our history is sooo inclined and shared with the arabs and oversteps the normal continent boarders issued out today!
“Offers up alternatives” lol, no blk ppl just try to claim other civilizations
Nice words to describe culture and history theft
I’m tired of the Afrocentric stuff. I’m not African or of sub-Saharan descent but I just want to read history. I love the sub-Saharan empires. Tell me about the Ashanti, Ghana, Kanem, Nubia, great Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the kingdom of Kongo, Mali, Songhai, the Fulani, the Zulu and the Xhosa! Tell me the actual history, not this nonsense. Be proud of the actual sub-Saharan empires! Don’t co-opt other peoples’ histories. I used to see the same behaviour come from Europeans and religious fanatics who believed Europeans are the true ancestors of Native Americans but it’s just nonsense. Now it’s the same thing with Afrocentrism.
bro, i always learn something from this channel. great work, team!
Wow! As an 80s baby I never would have imagined all the backlash in this generation to what for us was such a loving and affirming movement. Its like all the bad (misinformation and preditory behavior) completely overshadowed the original scholarly, communal, and healing uses. Just looked up the word on youtube and it seems like this is the only positive/nuetral commentary. Knowing the impact it had on my life- How very tragic its demise😢
This was beautifully done. My favorite video thus far.
I'll be as afrocentric in every aspect of my life, if that's what makes me comfortable in my own skin. It's liberating & the natural thing to do. Of course, Africa isn't a homogenous entity but one can always find their own niche to fit neatly into whatever "ideology" some thing we're desperately aspirng to. It's actually introspection, right? I'm not treading on anybody's toes, but reclaiming a lost, illustrious identity, which seem to get under some ppls skin & make some quake in their boots, believe it or not. C'est menfui!🤷🏾♀️ I make no apologies for those, whose noses are put out of joint because of the "new me/us". Let's not dignify those pinocchios with long noses with our royal responses- we deserve better. Respect!💪🏾
So lies and appropriating others achievements makes you able to live in your skin.. ouch i feel sorry for you
In a description of the Egyptians, Herodotus writes in The Histories, “the Egyptians said that they considered the Colchians part of Sesostris’ army. I myself guessed it, partly because they are dark-skinned and woolly-haired; though that indeed counts for nothing, since other peoples are, too; but my better proof was that the Colchians and Egyptians and Ethiopians are the only nations that have from the first practiced circumcision.” As Afrocentrists see it, this passage endorses their case: In no uncertain terms, Herodotus describes the Egyptians as dark-skinned and wooly-haired.
Not so fast. The key word in the original Greek of the passage is “melanchroes.” Contrary to what Afrocentrists claim, it does not mean “black,” in the sense of belonging to the black race. For that, Greek authors would have used “aethiops” (etymologically, “burned face”), the term that indisputably referred to Nubians and other peoples in what is today Sub-Saharan Africa. Herodotus does not refer to Egyptians with this term. Furthermore, in the very same passage quoted above, Herodotus implies that Colchians and Egyptians are of the same stock. Colchis is on the shores of the Black Sea, hardly an area inhabited by black people. Melanchroes means simply “dark-skinned,” a term that sometimes the Greeks even applied to themselves and other not-so-dark peoples, such as Syrians.
I remember after Black Athena was released, some pale thing immediately wrote a book to rebuke it, going as far as saying Nubians were Caucasians. I won't mention the author name or book so I do not give her any publicity. I wanted to destroy that book from the library but decided against it.
Exactly they were black
@@debbyluxe no they were clearly Iranians
Great study. Thanks for posting.
You forgot to mention Anthony Browder too.
He’s a clown and a liar
What some don’t seem to get is that the separation of different races happened long before Egypt was a modern civilization. There would have been different races and cultures in Africa branching out. Different humanoid species connected and gave us what we have now.
Just started watching. I hope you include Martin Delany in this conversation. In my studies he is the first notarized proto-Afrocentric scholar...
I think if we approach history with the most pure objectivity that we can, and stop trying to insert ourselves into it, you will reach the conclusion that afrocentrism is most likely the result of feelings of inadequacy and anger. As a black man with a MA in Ancient Studies; the REALITY of history is not favorable to black people if they are trying to ascribe values, and a historical bias toward Europe is less a result of eurocentrism than it is a result of the reality being that subsaharan Africa's cultures and empires did not produce very much in the way of progress beyond what was essentially early medieval technology; the problem is, relatively educated black people live within the scope of western civilization and want to be seen as people of consequence inside of the study of its past, and unfortunately we are not. That is not the fault of "White people", it is simply a biproduct of our history and our geographic situation. I am one of the few black people in my academic years who rejects wholly the notion that black people strictly defined, were not responsible for Egyptian civilization (They weren't white either, but they sure ain't look like me.) I love African history, it is mysterious and interesting, but it ultimately was not a relatively advanced location.
"Place Africa at the center of historical events and not props to someone else's story" then you proceed to name scholars in this field and their names are George James, John Henry Clark... Let's think about that.
Yup
thank you thank you once again these are things that when I was in school black history was something that was very swollen but what the Europeans owe what the southern does wanted to be understood in school was more about white American but we need to know more about ourselves and thank you and God bless👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖.
home team,since you're talking about people who wrote about the history of Africa in this movement,maybe you can include your thoughts in a future video about the book 'The destruction of black civilization' written in the early seventies. I forgot the name of the author but i recently read this book and found extraordinarily enlightening with regards to African history. what I liked about it the the most is how the author ties the histories of different regions on the the continent,beginning in egypt and the upper nile region across the last 6k years to give the reader a full picture of not only our history,but also our present and possible future. Without any exageration,I can honestly say no one can claim to have an understanding of past and present as a continent and as a people/s without having read this book. The best part is that he lists all his sources at the end of the book so you can go read up yourself.
I was blessed to meet Dr. Ivan Van Sertima at a church in East Oakland. I truly appreciate that opportunity.
Van Sertima was trash he literally lied to blk ppl teaching that Africans came to the Americas before Columbus. These lies have been passed along throughout the blk community for decades
The kind of knowledge we need but are hardly taught in our schools. 🤔🖤
This is a good breakdown of Afrocentrism. Molefi Asante's books really opened me up to the fact that we have our own views of history and culture. I prefer the term African-Centered today but Molefi paved the way.
I want an afrocetrist to explain to me why they are claiming every where specially northafrican while yall know exactly that africa is a continent not bood and northafrica were never blaack ..and due to race map northafrica and part of east africa is a caucasion race !! ..its stupid to convince me that who built this civilization in egypt lived there for 7000 and built all of that and then left to another place .!!!!!
Clark Atlanta University. School of Social Work developed an Afrocentric Perspective in Social Work practice as its major pedagogical approach since the 1970's. Its foundation is on the works of all those great babas you cited. Its embedded across the curriculum.
His story is just that his story...The Pen is mightier than the sword!
Ario I said his story 👀
Ario history is his story, whose story 👀
Egyptian history belongs to Real egyptians💪💪
not to Africans
Thats nuts !!
I looked up this video after hearing Afrocentrism and wanting to know what it is.
I was told "Afrocentrism and Kwanza was mostly created out of ethnic insecurity."
Idk how to exactly process that currently.
Do you think that statement is a honest observation, just racist, or somewhat a little bit of both?
What are your opinions?
100% true. When you have a whole group of people making bogus claims about their ancestors being the real ancestors of the Jews, the Japanese, the greeks the romans the British etc etc, it is clearly done because of an inferiority complex
Noble Drew Ali is another man who inspired the Afrocentric Thought. He often times is left out for a multitude of reasons but regardless I am thankful for all that you do beloved!
Noble drew Ali was a charlatan who lied to blk ppl
The current Moorish groups eschew "blackness" and rather be called brown. Their disassociation of subsaharan culture is prevalent.
A dangerous lie it is
One harmful Afrocentric believe is that cleopatra was black when instead she was probably 1/8 or 1/4 black but primarily Greek. When blacks ruled Egypt it was the golden age. So what classical and Bronze Age Greeks knew as Egypt probably was ruled by what we refer to as black people today
Cleopatra had African ancestry: ruclips.net/video/iCTzfb5tWDg/видео.html
Who cares if Cleopatra was Black or not. We already know the early dynastic periods of Ancient Egypt was Black.
The funny thing is that black pharaohs existed, just not in Egypt, but in Nubia. All Afrocentrists have to do is look a little further south.
اذا كان ادعاء الافروسنتريك صحيح أين حضارتهم بعد ماخرجوا من مصر وهل العرب المسلمين يخرجون الناس من بيوتهم او من دولهم ام انهم ينشروا الاسلام بين الناس وهل لايوجد فى مصر من هم سمر البشرة شعب مصر معظمهم سمر البشرة
الصريين في الجنوب بشرتهم سمراء لكن ليسو زنوج، من خلال ملامحهم تفهم أنهم بعيدين كل البعد عن السودانيين و باقي الأفارقة.
@@hamzanouali6051 صحيح الشكل مختلف والملامح مختلفة
U R a beautiful young gentleman, so sweet U appear an very interested about our history Yes I'm of 🌍 African decent. Thank U so much for keeping our history ALIVE.. LVU ❤ PEACE my brother 💋
UNESCO believing that Europeans were writing African history assembled 350 African scholars, historians, writers and archyologist to write their own histories for a change!
Exactly!!
Great video. At the end of the day we will tell history from our own perspective and we don’t have to apologize to anyone! It’s always amusing to see people who have an extreme Eurocentric world view complaining lol.
are you actually egyptian? or do u just keep that profile pic to show off that you are egyptian even though you just claim the heritage for yourself?
Fake Egyptian
@@cyrusthegreat7030 fake Senator.
Good video.
The oppressors don't want us to return to our powerful ways of the past. We're at war. They're fighting for the eradication of Afrakanness -- we must fight to preserve it.
Bro, claiming Cleopatra was Greek (which she was) is not the oppressors having some African eradication fetish, it’s history.
@@ohword9541bro stop having opinions on shit you nothing about.
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Unfortunatley, that topic is still very toxic in some comment sections as of December 2023.
Goofiest coping mechanism ever.
This needs to be taught in every school.
Withe Africans Matter✊🏼 ⵣ
This channel and it's comment section are fantastic for getting some laughs. Many of you are tantamount to Flat earthers.
Why can't you guys just ve proud of your own history. Mali was great why can't you focus on that instead of taking everyone else's history
I have the book Afrocetrism from molefi Kente Asante and I TOTALLY RECOMEND to everyone. The book explains so well the concept, the possibles way to interprete Afrocentrism and how you can change your way of acting to a more Afrocentric way and why that should be important. I am very happy with this video. Thank you. Hugs from Mozambique
Love learning new stuff.
Love your videos on our history. It makes me understand ourselves more.
I hate how the Europeans had the power to subject most of the world to their value system and it made our race and culture the most attacked and ridiculed while there's is seen as the ideal way to be.
Not Ice Cube... He led the way to the Afrocentric destruction of Hip Hop into The Rap Trap of today...
Golden Age of the Moor and Blacks in Early Europe changed my life. Crazy knowledge with tons of citations.
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@HomeTeam_History My concern about Afrocentrism is that - by your own statement - it evolved from a mere historical position into a movement... a politically and culturally tied movement. No doubt Eurocentrism is also often politically driven and carries bias. Focus on a particular people is not the issue, its the tendency to side with certain theories that bolster the perception of that people group on the world stage. Que late 18th and 19th century racial theories from Eurocentrists that made out their race to be superior to explain their nations’ dominance over the world at that time. I see a similar pattern with picking theories when fighting over the legacy of Egypt. After all, you mention a Afrocentrists being a part of a “culture war.” Perhaps the legacy of Egypt is more complicated than both Euro and Afro proponents would like to think?
My critique is not to say that racism and apartheid shouldn’t be fought, of course it should especially in combatting historical oppression. It’s just that when historical analysis is bent for a political reason, we are no longer investigating what actually happened back then and why.
I don't care what your school teacher would've told you, Cleopatra was Black😀
Just to let you know your web pages links are not working. Watching from the uk
Africans invented most things. Europeans just improved on those inventions. Simple
Claiming any race superior as you just did is the equivalent of the worst kind of bigotry. Speak the truth, for lies often times will backfire on you, and your statement is assuredly a lie.
Humans in general invented most things....had nothing to do with race.....just saying!
@@Allhoney33 Well said.
Near Eastern people started the earliest civilizations not black or white people.
Afro King the reason Mediterranean’s or other groups started civilizations first is because they did it out of necessity. Sub Saharan Africans lived in a lush fruitful environment so they didn’t need to start farming. Mediterranean people started out of necessity because the Negev was barren in terms of wildlife and plant life. The farming got the ball rolling for Mediterraneans and they soon spread farming to other cultures in all directions and farming led to writing and writing led to laws and laws led to etc. No longer were they hunter gatherers. We can see this absolute isolation take place in North America with the Indigenous people. American great plain Indians were hunter gatherers up until the colonialism because the area was so abundant with animals and natural plant life. It was due to how easy it was to get food/survive in sub Saharan Africa that made their societal clock start late.
One of the most intellectually dishonest, absurd and down right silliest, (and somewhat desperate) responses to Afrocentrism by Eurocentrist, was the attempt to disassociate Ethiopia and Africa by claiming Ethiopians were not Black. Also to a lessor extent this was done with Somalia. It's an uphill battle but the truth is starting to prevail.
afrocentric is European terminology tbh they know who we are you can see it from racism in schools its matter if every African globally know there history is what scares them
Great video!
I find when people complain about AFROCENTRISM they seem to have a problem with Black people talkin about African history. Basically implying that we should let other people talk about African history.
Exactly, its like they have something to hide.
I love the intro music of your videos powerful richness strong!!!
Black ppl the truth💯💯
At the end of the day it is the "victors" who wrote history. It has predominantly been Europeans in recent history who has had the privelege of writing history just like it was the people of the Middle East had the privelege of writing history before them. We all just need to understand that we are flawed beings and we can really suck sometimes regardless of race.
Theere is nothing like "Eurocentrism"!! It is one thing, if sciences as history or archaeology etc. are developed in Europe and the West. The first real subjects of historians and archaeologists were not Europe, but the high cultures like Ancient Egypt, Hethite Empire etc.! The interest in European cultures evolved later. But Afrocentrist have no interest in science, but try to use them for their own nationalist and racist agenda in the same way Nazi-archaeologists used science in order to confirm their racist worldview of an Arian origin of humankind, writing, etc.!
No intellectual takes this seriously. It's honestly funny watching you guys write essentially your own history Like it's fan fiction