Another thing: for those who want a bit more out of bike. Raaw do provide aftermarket dropout cups to change the leinght of chainstays on any size frame to 440, 445, 450
It sure is pretty. Not a horst linkage tho. Horst link would have the chainstay link bolt to the seat stay at a point lower than the rear axle. The jibb's lower link is in line with the axle.
@@trentvlak The Horst patent specifically calls the rear pivot below the rear axle. That's why Rocky Mountain could get away with their Smoothlink suspension.
How did it feel with a 150? I want to keep it as playful as possible even though it seems to be a mini enduro bike. Just worried if I bump it up to 160 the longer travel, longer wheel base and slacker it becomes takes away the fun factor from the bike? Let me know how it changed if you don’t mind, thanks !
I ride this bike since this summer. I love it. I wouldn't call it efficient but I have no direct comparison to other bikes as I rode light 27.5" trail bike before and I've put its components on Jibb frame so it may be just the feeling. For sure it has a ton of traction. Pointed downhill it rides like on rails. It is built like a tank. The chainstays are massive and with that oversized pivot they provide huge lateral stiffness. As for the jibbness, again, I haven't compared it to other bikes but I've built it around mid-tuned RockShox Deluxe Ultimate and Lyrik Ulitmate and i find it jibby.
I went on a quest to find a chainstay protector for my bike (a Focus) and the first nice one I saw in stock was the one from this bike. It works really well and was under $20!
At first I didn't understand why they would make the top of the downtube concave just to route a fraction of the cables there. Then at 2:33 I almost had a heart attack when I saw the position of the shock reservoir but I soon realized the connection. I imagine you got to be careful when fitting a different shock on this one.
And there you have it, they finally mentioned the wandering bite point. Too bad I didn't bet on it with my local bike shop mechanic, probably could have won some money betting that you'd mention it. Honestly I've never had the issue with a set of well bled brakes, yeah when they need a bleed they act really weird, but they're super easy to bleed and they don't suck air like Srams do.
This sounds like my kind of bike. Being that I am a guy, that worked in a bike shop and built quite a few bikes, I would dig making it exactly the way I wanted component wise.
Definitely the stand out on PBs field test this go round. I bought a privateer 141 a few months before raaw announced the jibb. Similar bikes, but I think id have rather waited for the jibb.
@@DavidFoundCo I bought a 141 complete and it's just a burly ass bike for the trails around me. Nothing worse really, its just a big banger for rolling style loop trails that I ride after work. The raw geo is a little more conservative which would probably fit the riding in my area better. It's a marginal difference between the two though. Mike Levy would mention the bottle storage on the 141 is tight in comparison. The derailleur hanger on the 141 is unique too, which is a turn off. And the frame protection succks. Overall I'm pleased and wouldn't hesitate to recommend the bike if it fits your needs. It's fast. It pedals pretty damn good and it's got good traction on the climbs. It's long though, so if you got tight switchbacks get good at wheel lift turns.
I would love to know how this compares to the privateer 141. I trying to decide on the alloy bike for me, days in the mountains and the occasional visit to the bike park. The Stumpy is looking good at the moment.
You gotta love pb´s field test... perfectly nestled between the season and new years... - What I´d love to know is: How does the set of bikes that you test come together? Do you request them or are the reps offering them to you? How does the supply chain affect your job this year? I mean of course theres more awesome brands producing sweet bikes too. Ad hoc I don´t know if every of the brands I´m thinking about released a new revision or model. But Levy´s new favorite: the zerode taniwha for example should have been in^^
I'm really more in the real jibb bike camp. Like with short chainstays (even though I am tall-ish and the industry says tall riders don't get short chainstays...). Seems like kind of a dud, or a compromise at best.
The fox transfer post are trash!!! Super overrated, mine have been at fox twice in the last 6months for the same issue, it gets stuck in the last 40mm of the top travel. Fox should recall those things, I had a bad accident going into a punchy technical climb the dropper got stuck in the middle and I couldn't do the climb resulting in a bad crash, messed up my right leg and scratch my bikes top tube. #transferpostrecall
They both share some stuff, I would say the Jibb and the Madonna have a even worse brake hose routing. Here where I live I see a lot of them and I have the 161.
Voçes podiam me ajudar com um visto para o EUA ,vivendo em um país de terceiro mundo é muito difiçil ter as bike do primeiro mundo.Linda bike mas na periferia mundial tudo é um impecilho.Por favor.
Dont see that. the looks are alot cleaner on the Raaw imo, also the geo is quite different. Only thing they share is the 4 bar design and that is something a lot of bikes share.
Wow, another $2500+ frame with nothing remarkable to note. Old ass horst link. It's heavy. Not pushing any crazy geometry numbers. Externally routed cables. We're talking about a bike that would be at home in 2017. I'll take a hard pass on this over-priced, middle of the road tank.
I still dont get it why people want internal routing. Makes absolutely no sense to me. If you want to hide it, do it like Canyon does it or like an GT.
@@Vanadium Personally, I don't fancy internal routing either. It's a nightmare for hydraulic brake replacement and can be quite noisy if measures aren't taken to secure the cables inside. A well designed externally routed system is much easier to work with and it's much easier to track down a noisy cable. However, it seems to be what most people prefer.
Another thing: for those who want a bit more out of bike.
Raaw do provide aftermarket dropout cups to change the leinght of chainstays on any size frame to 440, 445, 450
I wanna see a comparison between the Raw Jibb, Privateer 141, Knolly Fugitive 138....basically all the aggressive aluminum trail bikes.
Pro: it's pulls off the basic vertical shock Horst Link design in the most beautiful way
It sure is pretty. Not a horst linkage tho. Horst link would have the chainstay link bolt to the seat stay at a point lower than the rear axle. The jibb's lower link is in line with the axle.
@@nicko9579 lol, dude really
@@trentvlak Yes really. He even calls it a 4 bar linkage in the video. The first paragraph on raaw website calls it a 4 bar. What's your issue?
@@nicko9579 Horst is a 4 bar. What's your issue? It's a Horst. The pivot is even below the horizontal of the axle.
@@trentvlak The Horst patent specifically calls the rear pivot below the rear axle. That's why Rocky Mountain could get away with their Smoothlink suspension.
Love my Jibb!! 8 months with no issues
I put a 160 fork for a 65 degree head angle. Great all arounder
How did it feel with a 150? I want to keep it as playful as possible even though it seems to be a mini enduro bike. Just worried if I bump it up to 160 the longer travel, longer wheel base and slacker it becomes takes away the fun factor from the bike? Let me know how it changed if you don’t mind, thanks !
@@JeepinIvan_MTB Unfortunately I did not put a 150 so I don't know, but it has been a great bike so far
I ride this bike since this summer. I love it. I wouldn't call it efficient but I have no direct comparison to other bikes as I rode light 27.5" trail bike before and I've put its components on Jibb frame so it may be just the feeling. For sure it has a ton of traction. Pointed downhill it rides like on rails. It is built like a tank. The chainstays are massive and with that oversized pivot they provide huge lateral stiffness. As for the jibbness, again, I haven't compared it to other bikes but I've built it around mid-tuned RockShox Deluxe Ultimate and Lyrik Ulitmate and i find it jibby.
I went on a quest to find a chainstay protector for my bike (a Focus) and the first nice one I saw in stock was the one from this bike. It works really well and was under $20!
At first I didn't understand why they would make the top of the downtube concave just to route a fraction of the cables there. Then at 2:33 I almost had a heart attack when I saw the position of the shock reservoir but I soon realized the connection. I imagine you got to be careful when fitting a different shock on this one.
And there you have it, they finally mentioned the wandering bite point. Too bad I didn't bet on it with my local bike shop mechanic, probably could have won some money betting that you'd mention it. Honestly I've never had the issue with a set of well bled brakes, yeah when they need a bleed they act really weird, but they're super easy to bleed and they don't suck air like Srams do.
This sounds like my kind of bike. Being that I am a guy, that worked in a bike shop and built quite a few bikes, I would dig making it exactly the way I wanted component wise.
I love these review guys, keep it up. I watched each one so far and they are engaging and informative. Good job
Definitely the stand out on PBs field test this go round. I bought a privateer 141 a few months before raaw announced the jibb. Similar bikes, but I think id have rather waited for the jibb.
What’s worse on the privateer?
@@DavidFoundCo I bought a 141 complete and it's just a burly ass bike for the trails around me. Nothing worse really, its just a big banger for rolling style loop trails that I ride after work. The raw geo is a little more conservative which would probably fit the riding in my area better. It's a marginal difference between the two though. Mike Levy would mention the bottle storage on the 141 is tight in comparison. The derailleur hanger on the 141 is unique too, which is a turn off. And the frame protection succks. Overall I'm pleased and wouldn't hesitate to recommend the bike if it fits your needs. It's fast. It pedals pretty damn good and it's got good traction on the climbs. It's long though, so if you got tight switchbacks get good at wheel lift turns.
levy has been on donut media too much, "but you can definitely fit a coilover" haha
hahaha, he loves donouts so he must be loving them too, eh?
That's a company from my neighborhood. Sadly that doesn't grant me a 70% discount.
"The largest main pivot on any bike ever" - wasn't GT I-drive bearing assembly about 1.5 times larger than what is on Jibb?
Beat me to it! Yes I-drive 4 used two pivots with 1"1/8 bearings as excentric system... It looks similarly big though
@@runrunrun51 I think the OP refers to even older I-Drive with a concentric "pivot" that looked like a small Big Ben in the bottom bracket.
I would love to know how this compares to the privateer 141. I trying to decide on the alloy bike for me, days in the mountains and the occasional visit to the bike park. The Stumpy is looking good at the moment.
I thought Privateer is basically just a cheaper version of Raaw bikes. Heavier, less refined, but ride similar
I have a Banshee Prime. Just built it up but should be on your alloy bike list for sure 🤘
Check out Banshee if you’re after an alloy bike. Give Rulezman suspension RUclips a look. Also Nicolai/Geometron if you have the coin
Jibb v2 will have 64ht angle, I will wait
You gotta love pb´s field test... perfectly nestled between the season and new years... - What I´d love to know is: How does the set of bikes that you test come together? Do you request them or are the reps offering them to you? How does the supply chain affect your job this year? I mean of course theres more awesome brands producing sweet bikes too. Ad hoc I don´t know if every of the brands I´m thinking about released a new revision or model. But Levy´s new favorite: the zerode taniwha for example should have been in^^
yes y'all make fire videos, loved the info!
So 450 mm chain stays. It's a downhill bike with a little fork.
I guess a kind of „poppier“ shock would get that jibby felling for that bike
I absolutely love this girl
Pros: not a bendy tube in sight (well, apart from the seat tube). Cons: Needs more riding clips of Alicia.
Also reckon the Raw would be good for heavier riders like me
Interessante un confronto con la transition smuggler 2023 🤔
That bike is sick!!!!
Bearings on shock mount? You do not notice it as soon as the weight of the rider sits on it!
think high speed.......
@@ArmaniFlyHigh breakaway torque is probably always overcome by the weight of the driver. and when the thing moves, it moves. regardless of speed.
Who on earth ist the rider in the yellow jacket that we see in every video???
Matt Beer
How many german bikes are on this series ? ;)
How are you guys getting wicked will tires, is schwalbe providing. Man I want a set . Not even on their website.
Beautiful bike.
@3:05 cable must be rubbing on chain
Wait, a 'Mountain Bike'? Is that a NEW CATEGORY
Love the channel guys 👍 Alicia,you are adorable 😉
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I'm really more in the real jibb bike camp. Like with short chainstays (even though I am tall-ish and the industry says tall riders don't get short chainstays...). Seems like kind of a dud, or a compromise at best.
It’s…perfect
The fox transfer post are trash!!! Super overrated, mine have been at fox twice in the last 6months for the same issue, it gets stuck in the last 40mm of the top travel.
Fox should recall those things, I had a bad accident going into a punchy technical climb the dropper got stuck in the middle and I couldn't do the climb resulting in a bad crash, messed up my right leg and scratch my bikes top tube.
#transferpostrecall
what trail bike is better to use for uphill, downhill and the best value for money? alloy & carbon
😍
Alicia is 🔥
When are you guys start to use the SI system? Or if you don’t want to comply with the civilized world, at least state the values in both systems…
In Aachen ist es anders rum mit der Seltenheit
I bet it is made in the same factory as privateer
They both share some stuff, I would say the Jibb and the Madonna have a even worse brake hose routing.
Here where I live I see a lot of them and I have the 161.
I dont like the collor :_(
Why don't you use the metric system all the time. Pounds? Seriously?
Voçes podiam me ajudar com um visto para o EUA ,vivendo em um país de terceiro mundo é muito difiçil ter as bike do primeiro mundo.Linda bike mas na periferia mundial tudo é um impecilho.Por favor.
Looks like a copy of the NICOLAI Saturn 14-ST.
Dont see that. the looks are alot cleaner on the Raaw imo, also the geo is quite different. Only thing they share is the 4 bar design and that is something a lot of bikes share.
Looks like a poor mans Banshee
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put some pedals on that thing. bikes on display with no pedals look stupid
Wow, another $2500+ frame with nothing remarkable to note. Old ass horst link. It's heavy. Not pushing any crazy geometry numbers. Externally routed cables. We're talking about a bike that would be at home in 2017. I'll take a hard pass on this over-priced, middle of the road tank.
Yeah, should be $1400
Not a horst link.
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I still dont get it why people want internal routing. Makes absolutely no sense to me. If you want to hide it, do it like Canyon does it or like an GT.
@@Vanadium Personally, I don't fancy internal routing either. It's a nightmare for hydraulic brake replacement and can be quite noisy if measures aren't taken to secure the cables inside. A well designed externally routed system is much easier to work with and it's much easier to track down a noisy cable. However, it seems to be what most people prefer.