Prone TR is my discipline. Both rimfire at 25yd or 50m and centre fire at 300, 600 and 1000yd. And I have to say that prone TR is the most relaxing thing possible. Especially rimfire. The accuracy/precision needed is so high that its impossible to think about anything other than what you are doing. All of life's stresses will melt away once you're on the point sighting the target. One thing I would add is that, in my experience, clubs like that are incredible. More often than not run by volunteers who give up enormous amounts of time from their lives to help get newcomers into the sport. My local club has several volunteer coaches who are there very regularly training newbies and even more experienced shots. Incredible community to be a part of.
The Home Office approved clubs scheme require a minimum of 3months probationary membership, and to attend regularly. Depending on the type of club and how often they shoot, the club may adjust this. A club booking onto a military range once a month, 3months may not give them enough time to sus you out. Our club does 3months, and 10 visits minimum (Poole Dorset). But the club is (covid permitting) open 5 nights a week.
Its kind of patchy and inconsistent depending on where you live, its sort of a hidden club and the vast majority of things still seem to be word of mouth
I used to mark targets for Huddersfield gun club when I was 14 and I got to shoot some really rare guns and I was amazed at how accurate the members were at 500 yards with a 303 with no scopes, I once got to use a very old revolver that you had to hand load with 8 ml ammunition and my friend ended up on his back due to the recoil, I learned a lot and I have respect for responsibility and safety around guns and I loved the whole experience
The long range shooting community in the UK seems so much more organized than here in the US, it’s mostly just driving out to a clear cut in the woods. Would love to have a long range shooting club that wasn’t a 5 year membership wait.
This was very nice to see, as a long and short range iron sight target rifle shooter, don’t see a lot of content about my own disciplines on this channel, which is not a bad thing I find everything else that I’m hopeless at fascinating! But this was a nice surprise
Cheers for all this content over recen days. Enjoyed watching the all. Hope you and all your colleagues and families are keeping safe. Look forward to the next videos
Great video as usual guys but you only state it's about Target Rifle shooting after eight and a half minutes in. I'm a rifle owner (and shooter!) but I use a range about once a year. Can we have another excellent clip on non-target rifle ownership/useage maybe? it's perfectly allowable and feasible to start out hunting FAC guns as long as one has the required permissions and the FEO agrees you have a legitimate reason for ownership. Keep up the good work as always all. Stay safe.
Great vid. Always interested me, but dont think I'm rural enough tbh. Never got my head round the whole gun licence "is a privilege" attitude, always put me off. Think emigrating to the States still sounds the better option!!!
@That sorta irish guy I think it also puts people off, unless you're already in with the shooting crowd already, or go to a school ATC or the like. Like VRCA restrictions to ownership of RIFs, it still looks like a deliberate putting off by HMHO - ruclips.net/video/1egzyMwVSVI/видео.html Though the general ignorance ruclips.net/video/tT3cPwV4uTk/видео.html and anti-gun stance of the media and other groups will, most likely, see an end to sports/recreational shooting in the UK in the not too distant future. The same pattern has been seen in other areas of UK life. Keep safe.
Very good advice , we at Chepstow R C shoot all you talked about and more , perhaps it the banter and fun we love , many hunters we have as members enjoy this . Guys stay safe
I went to the 101 club at altcar to start 1000yard shooting but the members are all 70+. Most of them dont shoot anymore! I need to try again. Cheers for the vid
Just makes me more appreciative that I don't live in Europe. Here in the US it's so much more casual, practical, and affordable for the average person to get into the shooting sports. I was a late bloomer not starting until I was in my mid thirties two and a half decades ago, but I quickly discovered I really enjoyed shooting matches when I shot my first match which was a rifle match to qualify for the purchasing of a US military surplus M1 rifle from the Federal Government's created to promote civilian marksmanship. Frome there I quickly expanded into silhouette rifle matches, then action pistol, then three gun, and inevitably clay shooting. The irony I quickly realized was that shooting different disciplines was that they all contributed to one another in improving your skills and marksmanship; they're not all in a vacuum on to themselves. And they're all a hell a lot of fun!
Interesting and informative (as usual) one additional point would have been that if you leave a club after acquiring firearms on the basis of that membership, you will lose the permission to have firearms unless you join another club.
Very good point. Having been a member once does not entitle you to lifetime gun ownership. In fact in the past the police and stated to need to carry club membership with your firearms to show you are an active member if stopped.
There is a video on this subject by the English Shooting channel. Although it's a few years old now so may be slightly out of date. But it should give you the idea. I think possibly the only thing that has changed is the way you choose ammo. You used to put how much you can buy and how much you can store as 2 separate things. Now it's just a storage limit. If you have any questions then sign up to Fullbore UK forum and ask there. People will be happy to help.
in the u.s. (depending on what state you live in) you can literally walk into your local gunshop and buy a handgun (with a background check and a few forms) and be out the door in less than 20min. also you can own a fully automatic firearm, as a private citizen so long it was made and registered with the ATF before 1986, and you get a tax stamp from the ATF to own the specific gun you are buying. the real hindrance to that part is that there is a limited number of such guns hence, their prices command a substantial!!! premium.
It certainly is overly complex compared to shotguns. Do the police tend to clamp down and stipulate the calibres they'll allow for your first Firearm Certificate? I'm just applying now. I have plenty of experience around firearms having not only been brought up around them but also having shot 5.56 in the cadets. I'm a long time shotgun owner, mainly clays but some vermin control. We have just bought a property with several acres of land to the rear of the house. As this has no neighbours, is far away from any road, and has 12 foot high embankments all around the perimeter it lends itself perfectly to becoming a great family only range for prone and benchrest target shooting up to 250 yards. I take it if I apply for .17, .22 and .243 on my first certificate the basis of home rabbit, fox, small deer control plus prone/benchrest target they'll automatically reject some of those calibres? I really would prefer to do things without the need to join a club. After all, it's my own land.
Hi Ryan, Crow shooting always calls for a bit more choke, they tend to be a little further away on average owing to thier wary attitiude. Cartridges - i would go to a shot size 5 and probably a 32 gram to ensure clean kills. That said the crow shooting video we did had Dave and I shooting superfast pigeons from Hull and they were folding them up inside of 40 yards. What would you like to know about rifles for pest control? Jonny
@@tgsoutdoors Yes, I've switched to eley 6s getting better kills but due to quarantine I've ran out. All I have is 71/2s but I'm winging alot of them which i dont feel is right! If I have tighter chokes this should give them better killing power? I've a cz 455. 17 hmr which is brilliant for most things. I bought it because I was told 22s are a gun of the past but I've a few mates swear by them. We've problems with hoodies, rooks and foxes killing lambs. Obviously an air rifle is used for feral pigeons and rats. What's your opinion on the. 22 vs. 17 hmr?
Ive just recently been granted my SGC, and I have also been shooting .22 on a friends private land. Are you confirming that after being a satisfactory probationary member of a rifle club, that after 6 months of regular attendances & shooting, that I can then apply for my FAC?
You can apply sooner, but they won't grant it until you're a full member. I put my application in as soon as I joined a club, by the time they got round to actually looking it over I was a full member.
@@uk.teenage.female.clay.shooter They did, took their time though (Dorset)! From when I first shot at the club with a club gun, it took a year before I had my own.
Hi guys , You dont have a bin of airgun barrels lying around do you, looking for the holy grail in Airgun barrels .22 cal, Webly “Osprey Super Target” screw in barrel, yeah it screws in ? havent found one yet but Airgun Uk has 2 vides here on youtube both Osprey models fixed barrel and screwed in barrel , i have the Action but not target stock< but also standard heavy barrel/action combined ? any help or information would be greatly received as its none existant ?
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What if I am a long-term Scotland resident with permanent settled status and I have my guns already in another (EU) country?
Is it possible to do target rifle shooting with out a license? If i dont wnat to go through the process of getting a license, what are my options? Just limited to experience days or can I still get involved in a club and a competitive discipline? Also is there a legal limit on the caliber for experience days?
My question is if I apply for section 1 firearms as collector will I still need join a gun club as Iam not requesting any ammunition also as collector on my a fac will be able posses section 5 firearms as I read home guidance as long as I have fac Iam exempt from applying to the home office regards azar
@@tgsoutdoors Thanks for the update. This is the same for the world of archery. I have given this up due the physical demands as I'm not getting any younger and would like to keep the use of my shoulders lol :)
English bill of rights 1689 gives protestant Christians a right to arms are gun laws in England violate that right go to daddy dragon on RUclips to find out more on the English bill of rights 1689 god bless England don’t give your god given right up to the government stand and fight 🏴🏴🏴🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That has been my experience of most clubs I've shot at. The club I belong to is fairly social in terms of talking to people in the club house etc., but I show up with my guns, pay the range fee, have a little chat and then shoot for a while, usually undisturbed. I don't shoot any particular disciplines, I just like shooting and have a variety of different guns that interest me.
Yeah thats what id prefer none of the extra fuss. Just get my firearm go to the club, pay, put up my targets and shoot. I wish they had something similar to our clay shooting clubs/schools but for rifle shooting.
@@Lethal_Intent These places exist. I use one infrequently to check zero on my guns at range and it's precisely what you ask for. Pay your dues, turn up and shoot until your allotted time is up. I'm North Essex based and there's one within an hour of me. Finding them might be trickier as perhaps it's an industry that chooses not to advertise too much.
@@bengardner5269 They are few and far between which is ashame as i said wish it was morelike clay shooting there are easily 5 plus clay shoots within 10 mins of me and many more within 30. Travelling and hour plus both ways may not seem alot to you but it adds up for me. Thats why i stick to pest control with my firearms its easier and closer.
Awesome! Now could you compile a list of all these places and clubs we have the choice of using in the UK! Could you give some indication of the calibre restrictions of these clubs and contact numbers? Could you give information of Bell Target clubs across the UK? Could you give me information on where I can shoot steel targets with a 338, 6.5 or 7mm Magnum? Or are you content with waffling on about something you know little about , just to make a new video?
Oh..... yes, let me compile a list of clubs for you sir. The many hundreds that there are, with a full database of numbers, calibre restrictions and disciplines. On top I may visit each and get a feel for the people so we can give an indication of whether you may fit in?
@@tgsoutdoors Well that would be very welcome! That information is hard won by,= your average shooter! As you say "Just Google It" doesn't work these days! So don't waffle! Get the information out there! And, by the way! There is nothing wrong with a Rimfire! It is a tool for a job! Would you use a 6.5 Creedmore for controlling Rabbits on a paddock?
rifle shooting here is so unbelievably shit. i can't think of any other country whith so much red tape which a majority of is absolutely nonsensical. the best way to get into rifle shooting is to leave the UK, especially if you find underpowered calibers boring.
Prone TR is my discipline. Both rimfire at 25yd or 50m and centre fire at 300, 600 and 1000yd. And I have to say that prone TR is the most relaxing thing possible. Especially rimfire. The accuracy/precision needed is so high that its impossible to think about anything other than what you are doing. All of life's stresses will melt away once you're on the point sighting the target.
One thing I would add is that, in my experience, clubs like that are incredible. More often than not run by volunteers who give up enormous amounts of time from their lives to help get newcomers into the sport. My local club has several volunteer coaches who are there very regularly training newbies and even more experienced shots. Incredible community to be a part of.
I shot for Cardiff Uni and we had a volunteer coach, fantastic bloke. Gotta agree it's cathartic and really makes you forget about everything else.
I would like to try this but it seems a bit complicated to be allow to do so
The Home Office approved clubs scheme require a minimum of 3months probationary membership, and to attend regularly. Depending on the type of club and how often they shoot, the club may adjust this.
A club booking onto a military range once a month, 3months may not give them enough time to sus you out. Our club does 3months, and 10 visits minimum (Poole Dorset). But the club is (covid permitting) open 5 nights a week.
You're not a Parkstone member by any chance?
Gotta say the UK citizens are very lucky to have such a strong shooting community and infrastructure.
Its kind of patchy and inconsistent depending on where you live, its sort of a hidden club and the vast majority of things still seem to be word of mouth
@@highlandrab19 Similar experience down here in Cornwall
I hope they get stronger and gain ground with gun rights.
@@alecbowman4127 we don’t even have gun rights it’s a privilege
@@ThatTallGuy0 get your rights back, get politically involved and make your voices heard.
I used to mark targets for Huddersfield gun club when I was 14 and I got to shoot some really rare guns and I was amazed at how accurate the members were at 500 yards with a 303 with no scopes, I once got to use a very old revolver that you had to hand load with 8 ml ammunition and my friend ended up on his back due to the recoil, I learned a lot and I have respect for responsibility and safety around guns and I loved the whole experience
The long range shooting community in the UK seems so much more organized than here in the US, it’s mostly just driving out to a clear cut in the woods. Would love to have a long range shooting club that wasn’t a 5 year membership wait.
This was very nice to see, as a long and short range iron sight target rifle shooter, don’t see a lot of content about my own disciplines on this channel, which is not a bad thing I find everything else that I’m hopeless at fascinating! But this was a nice surprise
Cheers for all this content over recen days. Enjoyed watching the all. Hope you and all your colleagues and families are keeping safe. Look forward to the next videos
I shoot benchrest, in Canada. Its so much fun to develop a load for your rifle and shoot a perfect score. Its so satisfying to soot a one hole group
Sadly there are very few clubs/ranges in the West Midlands
There is quite a few actually, 3 within a 20 mile radius of me and I’m in Nuneaton warks cheers Shane
@@shaneweightman Any suggestions for South Staffs?
Great video as usual guys but you only state it's about Target Rifle shooting after eight and a half minutes in.
I'm a rifle owner (and shooter!) but I use a range about once a year. Can we have another excellent clip on non-target rifle ownership/useage maybe? it's perfectly allowable and feasible to start out hunting FAC guns as long as one has the required permissions and the FEO agrees you have a legitimate reason for ownership. Keep up the good work as always all. Stay safe.
It will be on its way at some point.
Changed the film title accordingly.
Great vid. Always interested me, but dont think I'm rural enough tbh. Never got my head round the whole gun licence "is a privilege" attitude, always put me off. Think emigrating to the States still sounds the better option!!!
@That sorta irish guy I think it also puts people off, unless you're already in with the shooting crowd already, or go to a school ATC or the like.
Like VRCA restrictions to ownership of RIFs, it still looks like a deliberate putting off by HMHO - ruclips.net/video/1egzyMwVSVI/видео.html
Though the general ignorance ruclips.net/video/tT3cPwV4uTk/видео.html and anti-gun stance of the media and other groups will, most likely, see an end to sports/recreational shooting in the UK in the not too distant future. The same pattern has been seen in other areas of UK life.
Keep safe.
Very good advice , we at Chepstow R C shoot all you talked about and more , perhaps it the banter and fun we love , many hunters we have as members enjoy this . Guys stay safe
.22 is a great round for just shooting. Not worrying about lots of arse but to making a rifle go bang
I’m looking for a range in Wiltshire to use my .22lr and 17hmr on are there why which would strench past 100 yards local shop has been no help
I went to the 101 club at altcar to start 1000yard shooting but the members are all 70+. Most of them dont shoot anymore! I need to try again. Cheers for the vid
Just makes me more appreciative that I don't live in Europe. Here in the US it's so much more casual, practical, and affordable for the average person to get into the shooting sports. I was a late bloomer not starting until I was in my mid thirties two and a half decades ago, but I quickly discovered I really enjoyed shooting matches when I shot my first match which was a rifle match to qualify for the purchasing of a US military surplus M1 rifle from the Federal Government's created to promote civilian marksmanship. Frome there I quickly expanded into silhouette rifle matches, then action pistol, then three gun, and inevitably clay shooting.
The irony I quickly realized was that shooting different disciplines was that they all contributed to one another in improving your skills and marksmanship; they're not all in a vacuum on to themselves. And they're all a hell a lot of fun!
I'd love to move to the USA, you guys do it right.
Nice to see my local mate @FormRifleStocks worming his way into a TGS video!
Thanks for the great vid again
If your looking at rimfires it's Mini rifle comps for me.
What remington is that?
Superb overview.... wonderful!!!
Interesting and informative (as usual) one additional point would have been that if you leave a club after acquiring firearms on the basis of that membership, you will lose the permission to have firearms unless you join another club.
Very good point.
Having been a member once does not entitle you to lifetime gun ownership.
In fact in the past the police and stated to need to carry club membership with your firearms to show you are an active member if stopped.
@@tgsoutdoors Thanks for all the great videos, hope your business isn't suffering too much at this time.
Thankyou, only time will tell!
John can you make an video to show how to fill up the section 1 application forms?
Thank you
There is a video on this subject by the English Shooting channel. Although it's a few years old now so may be slightly out of date. But it should give you the idea. I think possibly the only thing that has changed is the way you choose ammo. You used to put how much you can buy and how much you can store as 2 separate things. Now it's just a storage limit. If you have any questions then sign up to Fullbore UK forum and ask there. People will be happy to help.
UK Guns has recently made a video like this.
in the u.s. (depending on what state you live in) you can literally walk into your local gunshop and buy a handgun (with a background check and a few forms) and be out the door in less than 20min. also you can own a fully automatic firearm, as a private citizen so long it was made and registered with the ATF before 1986, and you get a tax stamp from the ATF to own the specific gun you are buying. the real hindrance to that part is that there is a limited number of such guns hence, their prices command a substantial!!! premium.
U can own full automatic in the U.K. with a section 5 licence and a reason to own it but it’s not a easy thing to get
That's how it should be over in the UK
It certainly is overly complex compared to shotguns.
Do the police tend to clamp down and stipulate the calibres they'll allow for your first Firearm Certificate? I'm just applying now. I have plenty of experience around firearms having not only been brought up around them but also having shot 5.56 in the cadets.
I'm a long time shotgun owner, mainly clays but some vermin control. We have just bought a property with several acres of land to the rear of the house. As this has no neighbours, is far away from any road, and has 12 foot high embankments all around the perimeter it lends itself perfectly to becoming a great family only range for prone and benchrest target shooting up to 250 yards.
I take it if I apply for .17, .22 and .243 on my first certificate the basis of home rabbit, fox, small deer control plus prone/benchrest target they'll automatically reject some of those calibres?
I really would prefer to do things without the need to join a club. After all, it's my own land.
Hey great video. Just wondering will that spartan sucker stick to a bonnet of a jeep and stay stuck while you drive at low speed ?
You do not live in South Ayrshire do you
That bit at 43 secs when he says "section 1 firearms" and strokes the barrel.... yeah that's not totally weird at all...
John,
Rifles for pest control?
Crow shooting what cartridge and what choke is best
Hi Ryan,
Crow shooting always calls for a bit more choke, they tend to be a little further away on average owing to thier wary attitiude.
Cartridges - i would go to a shot size 5 and probably a 32 gram to ensure clean kills. That said the crow shooting video we did had Dave and I shooting superfast pigeons from Hull and they were folding them up inside of 40 yards.
What would you like to know about rifles for pest control?
Jonny
@@tgsoutdoors
Yes, I've switched to eley 6s getting better kills but due to quarantine I've ran out. All I have is 71/2s but I'm winging alot of them which i dont feel is right! If I have tighter chokes this should give them better killing power?
I've a cz 455. 17 hmr which is brilliant for most things. I bought it because I was told 22s are a gun of the past but I've a few mates swear by them. We've problems with hoodies, rooks and foxes killing lambs. Obviously an air rifle is used for feral pigeons and rats.
What's your opinion on the. 22 vs. 17 hmr?
Ive just recently been granted my SGC, and I have also been shooting .22 on a friends private land. Are you confirming that after being a satisfactory probationary member of a rifle club, that after 6 months of regular attendances & shooting, that I can then apply for my FAC?
You can apply sooner, but they won't grant it until you're a full member. I put my application in as soon as I joined a club, by the time they got round to actually looking it over I was a full member.
@@ApurtureSci Thanks, did they grant it?
@@uk.teenage.female.clay.shooter They did, took their time though (Dorset)! From when I first shot at the club with a club gun, it took a year before I had my own.
@@ApurtureSci Dorset Police, says it all! lol
Good info Jonny 😎😎
Cheers mate
Hi guys ,
You dont have a bin of airgun barrels lying around do you, looking for the holy grail in Airgun barrels .22 cal, Webly “Osprey Super Target” screw in barrel, yeah it screws in ? havent found one yet but Airgun Uk has 2 vides here on youtube both Osprey models fixed barrel and screwed in barrel , i have the Action but not target stock< but also standard heavy barrel/action combined ? any help or information would be greatly received as its none existant ?
What if I am a long-term Scotland resident with permanent settled status and I have my guns already in another (EU) country?
Is it possible to do target rifle shooting with out a license? If i dont wnat to go through the process of getting a license, what are my options? Just limited to experience days or can I still get involved in a club and a competitive discipline? Also is there a legal limit on the caliber for experience days?
What brand of rifle do you have in this video? And does it have a custom or factory stock?
Thanks!
My question is if I apply for section 1 firearms as collector will I still need join a gun club as Iam not requesting any ammunition also as collector on my a fac will be able posses section 5 firearms as I read home guidance as long as I have fac Iam exempt from applying to the home office regards azar
Think you will have to be a member.
Anyone know where I can buy 150 gn .311 cal bullets.
Would a 308 you ok for your first time
Thanks for this, just the info i was looking for
What if you own enough of your own property to shoot on....do you still have to participate in a rifle club to have a license and own a rifle?
Then that is another thing all together. This was really aimed at target rifle.
Can I shoot left handed? I ask as I have limited visibility in my right eye.
Of course you can
@@tgsoutdoors Cool. I notice most rifles have the bolt action on the right side though. Does that matter?
There are a lot of left handed options out there to be fair, but they are much less common in the used market.
@@tgsoutdoors Thanks for the update. This is the same for the world of archery. I have given this up due the physical demands as I'm not getting any younger and would like to keep the use of my shoulders lol :)
How come vermin control was not explained?
I tried to join my local club and I never got back to me
Unfortunately most clubs are volunteer run, so it can take multiple attempts to get involved.
He makes prone rifle shooting sound kinky.
The 🐑 Inn Jonny 👊
Was thinking of getting in touch to go and do a film
@@tgsoutdoors that's a great idea! They're a friendly bunch
And to think , I started with an air rifle .
English bill of rights 1689 gives protestant Christians a right to arms are gun laws in England violate that right go to daddy dragon on RUclips to find out more on the English bill of rights 1689 god bless England don’t give your god given right up to the government stand and fight 🏴🏴🏴🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The British political union parliament banned guns that fire on full automatic in 1943
Are there no clubs where you can just rent a range for an afternoon and do your own thing? Not everyone wants to shoot socially all the time!
That has been my experience of most clubs I've shot at. The club I belong to is fairly social in terms of talking to people in the club house etc., but I show up with my guns, pay the range fee, have a little chat and then shoot for a while, usually undisturbed. I don't shoot any particular disciplines, I just like shooting and have a variety of different guns that interest me.
Yeah thats what id prefer none of the extra fuss. Just get my firearm go to the club, pay, put up my targets and shoot. I wish they had something similar to our clay shooting clubs/schools but for rifle shooting.
@@Lethal_Intent These places exist. I use one infrequently to check zero on my guns at range and it's precisely what you ask for. Pay your dues, turn up and shoot until your allotted time is up. I'm North Essex based and there's one within an hour of me. Finding them might be trickier as perhaps it's an industry that chooses not to advertise too much.
@@bengardner5269 They are few and far between which is ashame as i said wish it was morelike clay shooting there are easily 5 plus clay shoots within 10 mins of me and many more within 30. Travelling and hour plus both ways may not seem alot to you but it adds up for me. Thats why i stick to pest control with my firearms its easier and closer.
Awesome! Now could you compile a list of all these places and clubs we have the choice of using in the UK! Could you give some indication of the calibre restrictions of these clubs and contact numbers? Could you give information of Bell Target clubs across the UK? Could you give me information on where I can shoot steel targets with a 338, 6.5 or 7mm Magnum? Or are you content with waffling on about something you know little about , just to make a new video?
Oh..... yes, let me compile a list of clubs for you sir.
The many hundreds that there are, with a full database of numbers, calibre restrictions and disciplines.
On top I may visit each and get a feel for the people so we can give an indication of whether you may fit in?
@@tgsoutdoors Well that would be very welcome! That information is hard won by,= your average shooter! As you say "Just Google It" doesn't work these days! So don't waffle! Get the information out there! And, by the way! There is nothing wrong with a Rimfire! It is a tool for a job! Would you use a 6.5 Creedmore for controlling Rabbits on a paddock?
rifle shooting here is so unbelievably shit. i can't think of any other country whith so much red tape which a majority of is absolutely nonsensical.
the best way to get into rifle shooting is to leave the UK, especially if you find underpowered calibers boring.