A Look at Tony Williams Gear (Part 3: 1990-1997) with Scott Garrison - EP225
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Scott Garrison was Tony Williams drum tech from 1994 through Tony's passing in 1997. He takes us on a journey through the gear and his experiences with Tony Williams in great detail. Tony Williams is one of the most iconic drummers of the 20th century, with a meteoric rise from his days with Miles Davis to his Lifetime project, and he became jazz royalty through his tireless pursuit of pushing our instrument to its limits. Tony Williams will always be one of the greatest drummers of all time, and his gear is almost as legendary as his playing. However, it wasn't always the big yellow monster Gretsch kit... This episode covers his time with DW Drums, his experimentation with double bass drumming, new cymbals and hardware, and a tons of amazing stories.
Garrison is now a man who wears many hats at DW Drums and has amazing information that covers both the personal side of things with Tony, and many aspects of the gear that you can't hear from anyone else.
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Another great episode! I used to shop at Drum World in SF. Scott was working the day I walked in looking for a kit. I wanted a Yamaha Maple Custom but I wanted to make sure I liked the bass drum tone. Scott did the unthinkable. He sat with me for over 2 hours as we swapped bass drum heads after bass drum heads and neither one of us to get that bass drum to sound good. I ended up buying a Ludwig kit instead.
I had forgotten about that day until I watched this episode and that memory came flooding back! Scott went way beyond his job that day but he never gave up. He was passionate about helping me that day. Thanks for that great memory and for your help that day Scott!
That is very cool and is a great testament to his character. I appreciate you sharing that, and thanks for watching!
Thank you for the program I put it on as I could not sleep now I am more awake with excitement to learn more about Tony Williams and his music. I am I blind drummer based in south wales UK again thank you for all the hard work you put in to your pod cast I have listend to quite a few episodes now and they just get better each time i hear one
Thanks so much, I really appreciate that!
Scott Garrison! I remember him at Drum World in San Francisco, he is a great guy and always helpful. I used to live in the Excelsior District and go to the old Drum World that was a tiny shop, and there was a guy who worked there who always wore a cal the cyclists wore, and he was great too (hooked me up with Chuck Brown, the famous Bay Area drum instructor whose students were Terry Bozzio and David Garibaldi). I forget if Scott had worked at the smaller store, I remember him when they moved to a larger shop on Mission St, not far from the old shop. Those two were awesome, I took lessons with Tony there as well. I used to attend drum clinics Drum World held at The Italian American Social Club nearby, saw Dave Weckl, Steve Smith, and a lot of other drummers hold clinics there (they were selling Weckl's Yamaha kit that he used in that clinic at the old shop, I remember the red stick marks from his signature sticks on the coated Ambassadors, I still have a pair of his sticks that were custom stamped for the clinic with the date and location),. Anyway a huge shout out to Scott and everyone who worked at Drum World, and to Don Sfarzo himself, the owner of Drum World, and thanks the podcast host for all he the content he brings.
Round table round table round table! This guy is so cool. I’m just getting into jazz and find this fascinating; seasoned players must be loving this series!
Garrison is a legend! He is my 'go-to' guy at DW and he's one of the loveliest guys I've ever met! x
Agreed!
Thanks again for such intimate and enlightening perspectives on the legendary Tony Williams and his incredible equipment, work ethic, music paradigm, and artistry! As a drummer myself, he is STILL a major influence on me as an artist and leader in the field of not only Jazz but music itself.....what a force of Nature he will always be.....Journey Well Tony.....Big, Big LOVE!!!!!
I was hoping for cymbals, but this is great! First hand account from someone close to Tony. Amazing!!
One more week! Thanks for watching
@@DrumHistoryPodcast This particular episode was so very interesting with his first hand account of hanging with Tony! All of his notes, just so very cool!
Keep the Tony talk coming , fascinating !
Thanks for watching! Cymbals next week
Thanks Bart and Scott for interesting drum equipment information and personal tidbits about his creative directions !
Love this series, so many great drummers, so many stories. Have you ever done an- in -depth on the Classical Percussionist, Evelyn Glennie. How can a totally deaf drummer be a world class act. Over 70 albums, an amazing array of drums + her vast collection of the most bizarre percussion, mostly designed by her, like her Spanner Xylophone, or her water filled drum pots. She has a small room that is filled from top to bottom with sticks, every type of stick imaginable. I've been to her house near Huntingdon UK It's crammed with drums, even in the kitchen & bathroom. Talking to her you get the sense of a very nice lady, but totally dedicated to drums & music of all type. She showed me how she plays drums with 4 sticks, WHAT, 4 STICKS, independently. So she does a fast single stick roll with one hand, then the other hand. Then she crushes it to a daddy mamma. All the time she's dong some other fill ins with the other hand. She also plays a normal Kick Kit that is as good as any world class drummer, and all the time, she's totally stone deaf. Please do an article on her, if you haven't already. She's still alive, so you could do an up-to-date interview. It would be a very interesting programme.
I've watched everything I can find on Tony and DW...these are wonderful thank you so much. I guess I'm wondering what happened to Colleen his wife/widow? I'm aware of her creating the Mehmet Istanbul Tony Williams Cymbals, did she do anything else in her life drum wise? Will she release any Tony Williams recordings or videos?
Thanks so much for watching! That is a great question, I am not sure but hopefully more Tony pics or videos will roll out at some point
Gretsch was going through a rough patch there with product and distribution .When Kaman took over in 2000 things changed for the better. The Renown kits hit the market in the early 2000 and put Gretsch drums in the hands of more drummers that ever before -I'm guessing easily their most sold drum set .
Does anyone know if the cymbals Max Roach gave Tony when he joined Miles, (the famous Tony K's), were actually used by Max or on any recording with Max before he gifted them to Tony?
I don't believe so - The story goes that they were picked by Max when he and Tony were visiting the Brooklyn Gretsch factory and Max hand picked the new cymbals for young TW.
I’d like to know about the drumheads that Tony used. I’ve heard that those cs black dot heads were actually two ply, is that true?
Thank you for this 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤🥁🔥
Tony 's trade mark sound will always be THAT GREAT GRETSCH SOUND. I have many of his albums from Miles to his final ones. Gretsch drums sound so musical, the tone's so rich as opposed to the DW's which sound dry .More like cardboard boxes.
i would love to know what Tony would think of Cindy Blackman if he were alive still, even in say 2010.....reason being, that whole point about drummers finding their own voice. Cindy is a carbon copy of Tony, almost unashamed. Credit to her for her playing style and ability to go down this path, but it is almost too similar to Tony's playing you can' hear little else. Great series, thanks!
I agree 100%, she has no voice of her own, total Tony copy cat, sad.
To speculate.. one of the reasons for the change to DW might have been to have the line of hardware to match the drums.
Gretsch at the time might not been satisfactory for an enlarged set.
That's interesting. I can see that being a big deciding factor. Thanks for watching
@24:00 Clem Burk? He played BIG YELLOW PREMIER DRUMS! 15" mounted, 18" & 20" floor toms. Back in the 1970s... (Blondie)
all these questions about the brand of drums he's playing really bog this interview down...
43:08 that’s VSOP JAPAN 1982 not 1978
Cool
This is the best!!! It's said that Tony would take on potential students based on his or hers single roll? Any truth to that? Thanks!!
Thanks for watching! That is very interesting, I hadn't heard that
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Tony played double bass on two Arcana albums: The Last Wave (1996) & Arc of the Testimony (1997). Both on YT. Warning: very dissonant, not jazz, not rock, AOTT is easier listening.
Also found a solo from a clinic in Glasglow, Scotland in 1994, search YT title: 'Rare Tony Williams Zildjian Clinic.' He's playing yellow & red DWs, they sound better than his Gretsch tubs.
Tony wanted to work with DW because they were a US company? Huh? Gretsch is a US company. They both have stuff made overseas, but they also both have stuff made in the US. DW has products made in Mexico.
Now, they are owned by the same company. ROLAND. GO figure.
DRUM WORKSHOP HAS RUINED THE DRUM INDUSTRY!!
? Please elaborate?
DW ruined the drum industry by indirectly forcing every other company to up their game and make better products to stay competitive. How dare they!
DW are excellent drums. Although I’m happy with my Gretsch so I have no desire to buy DW.
And making them more expensive right?
Stfu don’t buy them. Comment is nonsense with no backup or truth. Stagg is your brand my man, cymbals too.
26:00 These might be the ugliest drums ever !