No, Matthew & Luke Do NOT Contradict on Jesus' Genealogy!
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"Why are Matthew's and Luke's Genealogy of Jesus DIFFERENT!?" ... Muslims and atheist love this objection! And many Christians struggles how to resolve this one. So in this little video clip from my Matthew Series, I'm gonna give you a very short and easy way to explain this alleged contradiction.
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he had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense given how Levitical marriages, and marriages in general worked with carry name from biological and legal father. Great video, Mr. Concise!
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the contradiction between the genealogies did not exist prior to 130. this discrepancy would have been a blatant and obvious question to the pedigree of the messiah prior to 70, but Jesus's genealogy was never questioned by the jews. Cyril of Alexandria also verified that the 14 generations checksum of Matthew, from the exile to his birth, was satisfied by a manuscript available to him; whereas the checksum is missing one generation.
the solution was found in the 21st century by 2 Hebrew manuscript witnesses, one from Oxford, and one from the jewish theological seminary. it says "Josef avi Miriam", Joseph the FATHER of Mary. therefore the matthean genealogy was the unbroken genealogy of Jesus through Mary, making Jesus the biological descendant of king David. while the Lucan genealogy was the genealogy of Jesus through Joseph the carpenter. here, we have the unfortunate accident that the foster father of Jesus, Joseph the carpenter, had the same name as his maternal grandfather. Joseph was the second most popular name in second temple period judea, second only to Simon.
it is also interesting to know that heli is a contraction of the name heliakim, or Joachim. so the church tradition that the father of Mary is Joachim and her mother, hanna, is wrong. instead, it was Joseph the carpenters parents.
so no mental gymnastics are required to explain this accident of history.
it is also worth mentioning that Mary was the most popular woman's name in second temple judea
Nice quick slam dunk refutation there Daniel!
You sound slightly quieter than usual - your intro was nice and loud but your voice not so much.
Maybe it was me and my audio I'm not sure 🤔
For His Glory!
Hmm, you may be right. It could be my headphones, or that I did not up the volume before rendering like normal.
Keep in contact, another collab must soon be in the horizon!
@@DanielApologetics Definitely brother will do
Maybe Luke's account traces Jesus's human lineage through Mary, rather than the royal lineage through Solomon. .By 100 BC, we see that woman's lineages were also being traced.
Judith 8:1: Now at that time Judith heard thereof, which was daughter of Merari, son of Ox, son of Joseph, son of Ozel, son of Elcia, son of Ananias, son of Gedeon, son of Raphaim, son of Acitho, son of Eliu, son of Eliab, son of Nathanael, son of Samael, son of Salasadal, son of Israel.
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I mean, that is what my wife and mummy says all the time, so...!!!!
@@DanielApologetics can't argue with that 👍
Great thumbnail, I love the look in their eyes
Yeah, me too!
Matthew's genealogy is Joseph bloodline, also the book of Matthew begins with Joseph's dream, and that book is all about Joseph, & does not speak about Mary, showing its through Joseph's bloodline.
Luke's genealogy is through Mary's bloodline, bc this book speaks starts out about Mary. & is all about Mary, it does not speak about Joseph at all, showing its All About Mary bloodline...
As historians already have proven Matthew's gospel was written first, so Luke would have already known that Jesus's adoption descendant, would have already been written down, so he wrote down Jesus's physical bloodline through his beloved mother, hence why there's two genealogies. But both lines are directed to King David, showing Jesus is the true Messiah, through adoption bloodline, & physical bloodline...
This is also what is thought throughout antiquity from the great church fathers that came b4 us all.
Many has held to that, yes. I used to favor that one too, but...
One problem with this suggestion is that throughout Luke’s birth narrative, he stresses that Joseph is a descendent of David. He never mentions Mary’s Davidic descent. So, despite Luke’s emphasis on Mary in his birth narrative, it could be questioned if his genealogy is Mary's.
This mention response in video avoids a couple of objections like this one just mentioned.
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Yes brother I see the issue that u bring up, and it's a reasonable argument.
But 1st I just want to explained, that I'm not sure if believe u hold to Martin Luther Sola scriptura, but I don't, I am a Byzantine Catholic so I love to follow the oral, & written Traditions as one, like 2 Thessalonians 2:15; with the oral, & Bible together as one.
But some people they just can't move past their own, Calvinists are Baptist interpretation of how they see scripture. So people become very stubborn, to say NOPE' it says it right here in Scripture, so all those Church fathers have 2be all wrong.
And that becomes very dangerous bc that's when some1 starts following their own flesh, & their own desires of their heart, which God says is evil to do.
Not trying to say you're doing anything evil, just pointing out how other people could be so very stubborn, like Unitarianism, or modalists, on the Trinity. Bc they love to ignore the consensus teaching throughout antiquity, bc of what they see in Scripture alone.
So now with that said, what the church fathers have said is YES Jesus Christ is a true
descendant of King David bloodline through "Joseph", and always taught its "through Joseph". The Catholic Church, & the Orthodox Church don't teach 1st that Jesus was a Direct descendant of King David through Mary, because they know it's both and, but the point is they always start out by only using Joseph's line,to be that direct descendant, because its always through the father seed.
But we know Jesus wasn't born from male seed, it was the female who had seed Genesis 3:15.
So the argument that you're bringing yes it's a good argument, but at the same time that's exactly what the church fathers all teach that Jesus was Direct descendant of king through Joseph's family tree. But the point is we know as Christians that Jesus's physical blood, his Flesh was literally only through Mary, & not Joseph..
So you have to ask yourself then why does the Catholic and orthodox Creeds, teach that the bloodline is a Direct descendant of Joseph, Since they also teach that the physical bloodline is only through Mary.
But we all know a genealogy could still be a Direct physical binding line through adoption to, which technically is the argument you're pointing out, is that Jesus is the descendant of Joseph, but it's through adoption.
Bc has a widow remarries the brother, but its the dead husbands name that will only continue to live on, but its through his brother blood, but still be the direct descendant of his dead brother.
So basically what I'm saying is this is evidence to show that yes the Bible could be literally using words that are pointing, & talking about Joseph's literal descendant, but pointing it through Mary's physical bloodline at the same time as well, bc Mary's bloodline was a Direct descendant of King David as well,
So basically it's not one or the other, "it's both and"...
So the church fathers always taught, & I mean From all sides, all over the world, the East Latin, and the West Greek, both Catholics and Orthodoxs, all taught its Two Direct descendants, both sides from Joseph, & Mary thats both pointing directly to King David bloodline, even though only one line is through adoption, and one line is physical blood..
As the Messiah only could have been through David's physical bloodline for the Jewish people could see the prophecy come true.
As both Jesus being a Direct descendant from King David through adoption, & if some Jew tries to deny that, & says God only has made the prophecy through a physical bloodline only no if & or buts, Then God has made it to where we can point to Luke's Gospel, & throw it right in there FAT heretic face lol, & be able to prove Mary is a direct descendant of King David as well....💣💥
So again saying the word
descendant from Joseph, it's still could be used "has both and", "not one or the other"...
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And again not trying to argue or debate with you, & I know you're not as well, im just trying to say this has always been the Catholic, & Orthodox teaching.
So with your argument, that's its Joseph's descendant,
Yes the Catholic agrees with that, but it's both and, not one or the other.
This is why I love what the church fathers taught, bc I get a lot of Heretics like the Black Hebrew Israelites attacking me, The European Israelites, The Orthodox Jews, that all love to try to talk about physical bloodline, that they're the chosen people of God, cuz they have physical bloodline, & then I throw in Luke's gospel, and of course right away they try to say that's your own interpretation of that, but then I show them all the church fathers that taught Mary genealogy is in Luke Gospel to, & it just silences them all.
Bc that's when they start attacking me by throwing red herrings, shotgun fallacies, strawman fallacies, they just start attacking me hard, bc they can't refute the argument, so they'll use Ad hominems instead..
Its Showing that this isn't something new, that this was something that was always taught in antiquity..
So my advice to u would be keep researching this genealogy, & study what the church fathers always taught, bc this is a great weapon to use for those Heretics that try to talk about the prophecy was only for physical bloodline of Jesus.
That's when the Gospel of Luke is used has our weapon, & boy does it feel good shutting down heretics that are against Jesus with Luke's Gospel, especially when u have church fathers backing up what u say to, it's such a great weapon brother, the knowledge these church fathers knew is just amazing...
God has really edified his body with all diff types of church fathers, throughout these thousands of years, for we can turn to, and giving us all kind of weapons to use against Heretics.
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And another thing we have to ask ourselves is why are the gospel writers talking about two sides of Jesus's family, right after the genealogies are written down.
Matthew's gospel has the 1st genealogy, & then it's directly pointing to Joseph's life story only, doesn't mention Mary's life story at all, only talks about Jesus being born through the Holy Spirit from Mary, but the gospel of Matthew is directly only about Joseph's life, on what Joseph said, & did in his life only.
But then in Luke's Gospel has the 2nd genealogy, but right after the genealogy the gospel writer points his story directly talking about Mary's life story, & everything in her background in her life, on what she said, & did in her life only.
And as a Christian we know every single word that's written down is very very important, so precious, also as expensive as ink was back then, written on animal skin, so every single word was very precious.
So then why have two genealogies of one person, but then only mention the males life story after the 1st genealogy 🤔 then the 2nd geology it's only talking about the female's life story...
Food for thought
Love u brother & all the work u do. God bless u & your family ..
Hey. Just to say the title should say that they *do* not contradict.
Thanks. Saw and changed it asap after upload. Sometimes it takes time before its updated.
How do you know Joseph was adopted?
I don't. But the explanation is a logical and coherent way to answer why Joseph has two different fathers in Matthew and Luke - and why Jesus has two different genealogies in those two respective accounts.
At least the Apologetics is recognized. Depending on an All Powerful God to get it right over time, given history, would be ludicrous. Believing that a God wouldn't understand that words take on different meanings, given history, would be foolish.
In the Mental Health Jesus putting demons in pigs to literal now? Christian Magic is fascinating, even eye-opening, when one realizes the magical thinking is necessary. Santa Claus for adults.
That is not how DNA works when tracking back ancestors... God would have known that!
Why not just admit the Bible is not perfect. It has errors, more than a few.
Referring to 400 000 textual varriants divided on 25 000 handwritten manuscripts? Well known within scholarship that does not affect Christian doctrines. Even renowend atheist an NT scholar Bart Ehrman says in the appendix of Misquoting Jesus (p. 252):
"Essential Christian beliefs are not affected by textual variants in the manuscript tradition of the New Testament."
@@DanielApologetics Excuses, excuses. There are errors because it is not a perfect translation. As for Christian doctrine? Most of you can not agree on the nature of God, baptism, and many other things. That is what happens when one does not know the truth. Heck, many Christians read the bible and rather than seek truth from the Lord, they choose their own corrupted opinions.
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@@DanielApologetics Once again, making excuses to be lazy rather than seek the truth. There is a true church, and most Christians reject it even though they believe in Christ. In reality, they believe an idea perpetrated by wicked men and reject the very testimonies in the bible they claim to follow.
@@karlshaner2453 Make an actual argument.