And because of that people focused more on mercury. Kiss wrote the rolling stones about carr's death and it took them weeks before the rolling stones to write about carr.
@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 I agree that freddie had huge talent since queen is my favorite band. But, even tho I'm not an Eric Carr fanboy, he still ruled
Paul "We didn't want to impose limitations on a new member" ... Eric "can I paint it camouflage?" Paul "Absolutely Not!" And that's being in KISS, In a nutshell.
Alex Thorn I don't know about you, but painting a Porsche 924 camouflage would've been a monumental mistake and would've made the car look really tacky
@@rayslife4k It was Eric Singer after Eric’s death from the early 90’s to their last show . You don’t realize the difference a drummer makes in a band . When Scott Travis joined Judas Priest it changed them completely. When Neil Peart joined Rush it changed them completely.
What gets me is he said putting someone new in the same makeup would be sacrilege, but yet Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer wear Peter and Ace's costumes and makeup.
Eric has always been my favorite member. His drumming was HEAVY and the one-two punch of Creatures of the Night (their best album) and Lick It Up are unmatched. People can shit on 80's KISS until rapture but there's some damn good material in there and I personally think it's their best era.
Eric Carr was multi-Talented. He could play Drums like there was no tomorrow, he could sing, and he could play Bass Guitar, too. Listen to the song "I still love you". Eric Carr played Bass Guitar on that song! He's even credited for playing Bass in the credits. Pretty cool, huh?
Eric Carr stated that Music From The Elder was his least favorite album, as opposed to Creatures Of The Night. Creatures Of The Night was his FAVORITE Album. He played some really heavy drums on Creatures Of The Night!
I've only seen Kiss twice, both times with Eric Carr on the Hot in the Shade tour. His sound was unbelievable. If you saw that show, you know exactly what I mean. When they opened with I Stole Your Love and Eric is pounding that snare drum, it sent me to another dimension. I love 80s Kiss and Eric is a huge part of the reason why.
Eric was a breath of fresh air for KISS. Huge talent and a genuine good guy with chops and a great voice. Eric ruled Creatures Of The Night. From there on, though, KISS changed into a hair metal band. And I bolted to punk and alternative rock. Even the reunion tour failed to recaputure the old KISS magic.
Ace said that he loved that first tour with Eric. Everybody was on the same page, the bullshit was gone, the band was firing on all cylinders and Eric's drumming gave the band that long overdue adrenaline shot they so desperately needed. But when the tour ended and the band and producer Bob Ezrin reconvened at Ace's "Ace in the hole" studio, the bullshit returned...
@@bretonwescott5983 I like Ace, but he is also a cry baby at times. He complained that he didn't get enough songs on the albums and that KISS needed to do a hard rock album. With Peter gone, it was his chance to get more songs on the album and during the Creatures recording, their first heavy album in several years, he was a no show.
Ezrin had his own way of doing things. Gene had written a short story and along with Paul decided Bob should turn it into a concept album. Outside writers were brought in. A choir was brought in. A session drummer was brought in on a couple of tracks and a lot of Ace's work was edited out of the final mix. Hearing his work edited from the final mix put Ace's nose out of joint and he quit the group. He even skipped out on a tv performance, Kiss lip synched as a trio! Paul and Gene eventually bought him out and by 1987 both Peter and Ace were out of the picture.
@@JENDALL714 Ace had been wanting them to do a proper hard rock album since Dynasty, but Gene and Paul wouldn't listen to the guy. It was pretty clear he had a better idea of what KISS was all about (and how to maintain the fanbase). He saw them becoming a joke, a Vegas sideshow. He stuck with Gene and Paul through Unmasked and Music From The Elder, continually being outvoted on musical decisions by them. He was completely disillusioned by the time they decided to record Creatures. Anybody in his position would have checked out by that point, regardless of drugs and booze. And was he wrong? Let's be honest. KISS was cancelling shows and playing to empty arenas in subsequent tours. Gene and Paul successfully transitioned the band from the top of the rock heap to a total joke in a matter of 3-4 years.
While working for a Patent & Trademark Law Firm in NYC around the summer of 1990, word quickly spread throughout the office one morning that KISS's Drummer Eric Carr was in the office taking care of some business. I couldn't resist seeking him out, even though admittedly I've never been much of a fan of KISS. I only spoke to him briefly, but surprisingly he was extremely warm & friendly. A really nice person. A year later, at the age of 41, he was dead. There but for the grace of God go all of us.
Eric Carr was a great drummer and a much needed kick in the ass for Kiss & I'm sure becoming a member of Kiss was quite an experience for him too ?! It's a shame Eric's not around to tell us his story - what an interesting book he would have had ?!
I remember when Kiss stayed at the Prince Hotel in Toronto and it was when Eric had joined the band. So very cool i was 17 years old and worked in the restaurant so i saw them all the time without makeup. The hard thing was i could talk to them and i couldn't tell anyone they were there. Its true Paul and Gene are the brains.
I love the 80s stuff! I just wish there was a best of with those hits. 1980-1990 would be such a great compilation. Nothing wrong with the 70s but there are so many best of albums with those hits.
The first time I saw Eric was at Stafford the the UK 🇬🇧 in 1980 and can remember it well and I was only eight yrs old at the time I was there to pick my older brothers up with my mum and dad and the nest thing the crowd lifted me up and carried me towards the front of the stage and the can remember the song shout it out loud and very good memories and I am coming back to o see you in Manchester In the UK in Friday can't wait awalys loved your music
Most of the time when bands have hired a recognized ayer to fill an original members spot it hasn't turned out great. I would think that would make even more sense for a band where the members wear costumes.
Just be a pocket drummer...so many drummers just want to play the loudest/fastest/busiest they can. It takes talent to be an effective pocket drummer, being able to keep the rhythm together and being a true band member, helping your fellow members shine
Poor eric. Great drummer, multi talented, can sing and write his own music & lyrics and in 11 years in kiss, he was never really treated fairly, nor were his talents used to their full potential. Imagine what hed be going through had he lived to see the reunion. Even through his time with the band, like bruce instead of being recognized for their stable 8 yr contributions to the band, paul shitted on them. Everyone is the problem and paul is the victim
KissGuitarKovers Agreed!!! With songs like: Naked City, Easy As It Seems, Is That You?, Shandi, Two Sides Of The Coin, She's So European, Torpedo Girl {KILLER bass riff!!!},.....??? What's NOT to love?!!!🤘
How i wish Eric would have lived and get in to another band instead of Beeing bullied and controlled he deserved to be in a good band! With nice folks! A nice soul! Deserves other nice souls!
So frustrating when good dudes end up departing too early because of some fucked up rare form of cancer, yet so many assholes live into their 80s and beyond. RIP Eric.
If this is true I salute them for welcoming him so readily and not being douche bags and hazing him and all that stuff as I've heard metallica did to Jason Newsted
I read some of Paul Stanley's autobiography and when I saw what he wrote about Eric I was disgusted. I think Paul was very jealous of him. I remember seeing a video of Eric playing a drum solo and the girls were screaming for him, which Paul would have heard. I've always wanted to be in a successful rock band. I'm glad I wasn't in KISS. God bless Ace, Peter and Vinnie. God rest Eric, Mark and Bob.
I read somewhere that Paul and Eric both took a liking to the same girl, but Eric saw her first. When Eric heard that Paul put the moves on her, he got really angry. That might have been the reason for Eric’s silence towards Paul on the Crazy Nights tour. Paul, of course, won’t admit that.
@@ronbroadfoot279 I know something similar happened between Gene and Eric but this isn’t the first time I have heard this story about Paul making a move on a girl Eric liked, it now makes sense why Eric wasn’t talking to Paul during the crazy nights era.
Paul is talented, probably the most talented guy in KISS, but he's a legend in his own mind. I'll take Rick Emmett from Triumph over him in a heartbeat
Carmine Appice, Billy Cobham, and Louie Bellson were playin Dbl bass well before the hair metal days ! Had nothin to do with Bonham ! Eric Carr and Vinnie saved ur ass paul !! Peter Criss was correct, by the end of the 70s, Kiss was a Vegas act !! Talkin shit about ur deceased bandmate when according to his girlfriend, you and Gene didn't even visit him at the hospital !! RIP Eric, you gave Kiss the thunder they needed and Creatures of the Night is one of the best kiss albums ever !!
Eric Carr was the perfect drummer for Kiss at that time and would have continued to be great. He was a class act. I don’t know who the best drummer out of him and Eric Singer is they are both great but Eric Carr I’s definitely my favorite although I like singer to. Never have been and never will be Criss fan
Look up the clip of "Paul Stanley on meeting Peter Criss for the first time" to have your answer. Criss had this unhinged, almost punk rock kind of drumming which gave the band its sound. It fit the songs they came up with so they got him into the band.
The only difference is that Paul legally changed his name to Paul Stanley, Ace never legally changed his name. He’s still technically Paul. Eric also well never legally changed his name. He was still Paul Caravello when he died.
"acting proper in a restaurant" my uncle was the head chef of a restaurant where these guys threw wine bottles at a wall of mirrors, doing over 20k in damage. hahahaha "acting proper in a restaurant" my ass. that being said, that story was my introduction to kiss as a child. i'm still a fan at 41.
Around 3-4 minute mark: we didn’t want him to have an existing persona...that seemed almost sacrilegious. Eric came up with The Fox. Cut to the 2000s...Thayer and Singer take on existing personas as Spaceman and Catman. They at least should have been new characters.
Peter was actually a pretty good drummer all things considered, at least before the drugs and alcohol overwhelmed him. You just gotta remember, Peter’s background was from a different kind of music, a swing/big band style, not rock at all. So I would say Eric was probably a better fit for the band, his hero was John Bonham , and his musical mindset was more in line with what Kiss was trying to do. In fact, Eric was into Mettalica at the time, so if anything Paul and Gene had to sort of reign him in. Imagine being hyped about joining what had always Classically been a hard rock band and then recording music from the elder WTF?? Anyway, Peter did a great job on the first 6 albums, and particularly to the first 4. His playing on Alive was about the only thing they kept, just about everything else had to be red done. So there was nothing wrong with Peter’s playing, he just wasn’t really a rock drummer
We didn't want to put him in makeup & a costume that was already known..lol lol lol lol. Tommy Thayer & Eric Singer should have got their own character makeup & costumes.
To welcome him they bought him a Porche 924? The 924 was the cheapest of the entire Porche range and was made in collaboration with Volkswagen simply to enable the common man to be able to buy one. They were rust bucket pieces of shit so Kiss clearly didn't think that much of the new member.
@@coyleigh5163 no way how can you say that. Don't buy a gift if it's going to be the cheapest ride they have. To me it's a punch in the face knowing the dough they had typical Jews.
Tom Johnson yes, peter is a great drummer (he experience in jazz drumming), thats why i got sad, cause its sad great musicians leting their skills going away
Only problem was it didn't draw in North America. I'm sure they still put on a great show (I was 12 then, too young to see it), but they played to a lot of half-empty arenas on that tour. They did well in South America, including the huge Rio show near the end of the tour, but that had more to do with the fact that they had never played there before 1983.
Eric, was a great drummer....may he rest in peace. Paul, I also agree that God forbid you guys redo a character....so don't you think it's time Thayer and Eric Singer had their own persona? Anyways....been diggin some Kiss since I was a little thing with my Donald Duck turntable being one of my first memories... I also heard dressed to kill on 8-track in my big brothers Nova he had.....ran the battery dead and he was beyond pissed because I ruined his date for the night!!!
Eric Carr was the best thing to ever happen to KISS - and the best member
No. That has to be Ace Frehley tbh. No Ace = No KISS
@@democracydaily9149 Yeah... History has doubted your opinion...Vinnie Vincent saved KISS..
@@democracydaily9149 I couldn't agree more he's so hilarious
Hilarious. All of Kiss drummers didn't write any songs on their own. Singer is the best, even he isn't great compared to other bands drummers
@@reasonablerage4370 Singer is boring.
2:38 And that’s why he won. He didn’t come in with a rockstar attitude, but as his lovable self.
The drum sound on Creatures of the night is pure magic.
Like cannons going off!! So awesome!!
Agreed the ambiance is sick especially love it loud
Really is one of my favs ,was very heavy
Like on the KISS Fox era albums after that
ruclips.net/video/sd1ZFjiGD78/видео.html
eric carr died the same exact date as freddie mercury
And because of that people focused more on mercury. Kiss wrote the rolling stones about carr's death and it took them weeks before the rolling stones to write about carr.
People focused more on Mercury because Freddie was a huge star with tons of talent, and Carr was a mediocre drummer in a shitty teeny bopper band.
@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 I agree that freddie had huge talent since queen is my favorite band. But, even tho I'm not an Eric Carr fanboy, he still ruled
I did not know that.
Rest in Rock Eric Carr!
@@jamesbutterson5218 bonham ths greatest drummer to walk planet earth and dimebag the greatest guitarist
So lucky to see him one time... grateful
Eric Carr was my favourite drummer. I wish I was a kid in the 80’s, so I could have seen him play. RIP Eric.
I saw him live 3 times, he was fabulous
I’m a 2000’s kid, and definitely would’ve wanted to grow up in the 70’s so I could comprehend and experience the 80’s in all its glory.
Paul "We didn't want to impose limitations on a new member" ...
Eric "can I paint it camouflage?"
Paul "Absolutely Not!"
And that's being in KISS, In a nutshell.
Difference between a car and drumming lol
Oh, come on!
Alex Thorn I don't know about you, but painting a Porsche 924 camouflage would've been a monumental mistake and would've made the car look really tacky
You're the typical uneducated douche taking shit out of context.
924? Biggest piece of shit ever made by Volkswagen. You cheap fucks couldn't spring for a 911.
Eric carr helped get kiss to where they are now
I’d like to think if he didn’t pass way he would still be with them to this day.
No tf he did not kiss just made his dreams come true
@@rayslife4kHe moved them into the 80’s and KISS’s music reflected that .He was the best for KISS .
@@TonyT007 helped them?? Then who helped kiss thew the 2000 and the 2020 and the 1970? It was gene and Paul those two are kiss
@@rayslife4k It was Eric Singer after Eric’s death from the early 90’s to their last show . You don’t realize the difference a drummer makes in a band . When Scott Travis joined Judas Priest it changed them completely. When Neil Peart joined Rush it changed them completely.
What gets me is he said putting someone new in the same makeup would be sacrilege, but yet Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer wear Peter and Ace's costumes and makeup.
At the time, yes
The fans wanted them in that makeup not kiss
Ironic isn't it?
Paul's nothing but a hypocrite.
hey what ever sells tickets, KISS is the biggest sell out there ever was
Eric has always been my favorite member. His drumming was HEAVY and the one-two punch of Creatures of the Night (their best album) and Lick It Up are unmatched. People can shit on 80's KISS until rapture but there's some damn good material in there and I personally think it's their best era.
Eric Carr was multi-Talented. He could play Drums like there was no tomorrow, he could sing, and he could play Bass Guitar, too. Listen to the song "I still love you". Eric Carr played Bass Guitar on that song! He's even credited for playing Bass in the credits. Pretty cool, huh?
Eric Carr stated that Music From The Elder was his least favorite album, as opposed to Creatures Of The Night. Creatures Of The Night was his FAVORITE Album. He played some really heavy drums on Creatures Of The Night!
Same here. Kulick and Carr probably made up one of the best lineups.
I've only seen Kiss twice, both times with Eric Carr on the Hot in the Shade tour. His sound was unbelievable. If you saw that show, you know exactly what I mean. When they opened with I Stole Your Love and Eric is pounding that snare drum, it sent me to another dimension. I love 80s Kiss and Eric is a huge part of the reason why.
The only good thing about Peter getting fired was Eric got hired
Its a big yes
Nah
Eric was a breath of fresh air for KISS. Huge talent and a genuine good guy with chops and a great voice. Eric ruled Creatures Of The Night. From there on, though, KISS changed into a hair metal band. And I bolted to punk and alternative rock. Even the reunion tour failed to recaputure the old KISS magic.
Good point. I loved 70's and 90's heavy music. What the hell was that in the 80's....ralphhhhhhh.
Eric Carr is my favorite kiss drummer hands down. I love Peter but Eric’s style was different and what the band needed.
Eric Carr was probably the best thing that ever happened to KISS. ....
well, no...I'd say Ace was. Certainly the most talented member of the band by a lot.
@@robertchase7950 ummm paul Stanley is one of the best frontman's I've ever seen. He made the band stand out
agree!
No, that would be Ace Frehley
Eric Carr was the fifth best thing to happen to KISS
Ace said that he loved that first tour with Eric. Everybody was on the same page, the bullshit was gone, the band was firing on all cylinders and Eric's drumming gave the band that long overdue adrenaline shot they so desperately needed.
But when the tour ended and the band and producer Bob Ezrin reconvened at Ace's "Ace in the hole" studio, the bullshit returned...
Ace seems to be honest without being cruel or whiny like Peter or Paul.
@@bretonwescott5983 I like Ace, but he is also a cry baby at times. He complained that he didn't get enough songs on the albums and that KISS needed to do a hard rock album. With Peter gone, it was his chance to get more songs on the album and during the Creatures recording, their first heavy album in several years, he was a no show.
@@JENDALL714 Truth is that Ace was totally drowned in drugs.
Ezrin had his own way of doing things. Gene had written a short story and along with Paul decided Bob should turn it into a concept album. Outside writers were brought in. A choir was brought in. A session drummer was brought in on a couple of tracks and a lot of Ace's work was edited out of the final mix. Hearing his work edited from the final mix put Ace's nose out of joint and he quit the group. He even skipped out on a tv performance, Kiss lip synched as a trio! Paul and Gene eventually bought him out and by 1987 both Peter and Ace were out of the picture.
@@JENDALL714 Ace had been wanting them to do a proper hard rock album since Dynasty, but Gene and Paul wouldn't listen to the guy. It was pretty clear he had a better idea of what KISS was all about (and how to maintain the fanbase). He saw them becoming a joke, a Vegas sideshow. He stuck with Gene and Paul through Unmasked and Music From The Elder, continually being outvoted on musical decisions by them. He was completely disillusioned by the time they decided to record Creatures. Anybody in his position would have checked out by that point, regardless of drugs and booze. And was he wrong? Let's be honest. KISS was cancelling shows and playing to empty arenas in subsequent tours. Gene and Paul successfully transitioned the band from the top of the rock heap to a total joke in a matter of 3-4 years.
Eric Carr came to KISS with no ego, just talent and a will to learn
While working for a Patent & Trademark Law Firm in NYC around the summer of 1990, word quickly spread throughout the office one morning that KISS's Drummer Eric Carr was in the office taking care of some business.
I couldn't resist seeking him out, even though admittedly I've never been much of a fan of KISS. I only spoke to him briefly, but surprisingly he was extremely warm & friendly. A really nice person.
A year later, at the age of 41, he was dead. There but for the grace of God go all of us.
Eric Carr was a great drummer and a much needed kick in the ass for Kiss & I'm sure becoming a member of Kiss was quite an experience for him too ?! It's a shame Eric's not around to tell us his story - what an interesting book he would have had ?!
If Paul Stanley bought me a car and tried to take me shopping for clothes, I'd change my name again and bounce.
Not if you've been slugging it out in the clubs for years and you get the gig in a huge band.
Eric Carr was a real quality person
I remember when Kiss stayed at the Prince Hotel in Toronto and it was when Eric had joined the band. So very cool i was 17 years old and worked in the restaurant so i saw them all the time without makeup. The hard thing was i could talk to them and i couldn't tell anyone they were there. Its true Paul and Gene are the brains.
Shandi was a big hit in Australia top 5 in the charts ...my favourite KISS song
Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick were arguably the best Kiss members musically.
No matter what Eric has said in the past, he was scared to death getting into KISS. Gene and Paul can be overwhelming when you meet them.
Carr was my favourite 80"s Kiss member !!
"Can I paint it camouflage?" lol
Or 🌈
Absolutely Not!
@Midnight Owl How could someone say no to this cute puffball
R.I.P Eric was a he'll if a drummer. His kit was amazing.
Eric made Kiss even better his style and speed were amazing...............
I love the 80s stuff! I just wish there was a best of with those hits. 1980-1990 would be such a great compilation. Nothing wrong with the 70s but there are so many best of albums with those hits.
The first time I saw Eric was at Stafford the the UK 🇬🇧 in 1980 and can remember it well and I was only eight yrs old at the time I was there to pick my older brothers up with my mum and dad and the nest thing the crowd lifted me up and carried me towards the front of the stage and the can remember the song shout it out loud and very good memories and I am coming back to o see you in Manchester In the UK in Friday can't wait awalys loved your music
Best Kiss drummer by far
We didn't want a big name drummer because me and gene didnt want him to steal the limelight more like
Most of the time when bands have hired a recognized ayer to fill an original members spot it hasn't turned out great.
I would think that would make even more sense for a band where the members wear costumes.
Eric Carr was a great drummer and on top of that he appreciated the gig.
0:50 Exactly this. He did play “English”, with a hard and heavy John Bonham sound.
Eric was amazing, !!
Nothing more to say, R.I.P.!! 🇦🇺
I loved Eric Carr... Singer was pretty good too
Love you Eric
I miss you Eric 🥁🦊
Love Eric Carr RIP Eric Carr,,!! 🤟❤️🤟
3:52 *cough cough* Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer *cough cough*
Eric's drumming
IS JUST MAGIC!
Just be a pocket drummer...so many drummers just want to play the loudest/fastest/busiest they can. It takes talent to be an effective pocket drummer, being able to keep the rhythm together and being a true band member, helping your fellow members shine
Poor eric. Great drummer, multi talented, can sing and write his own music & lyrics and in 11 years in kiss, he was never really treated fairly, nor were his talents used to their full potential. Imagine what hed be going through had he lived to see the reunion. Even through his time with the band, like bruce instead of being recognized for their stable 8 yr contributions to the band, paul shitted on them. Everyone is the problem and paul is the victim
Creatures of the night drumming was incredible 👍
Things could have been very different, Rusty Blades the Hawk
Unmasked was a great album IMO. Shame it flunked out in the States. Still one of my favourites despite the issues behind the scenes.
KissGuitarKovers Yes Thank you. Unmasked is a FANTASTIC record. Unmasked and Dynasty rock. I love the period Of Kiss.
KissGuitarKovers Agreed
Salvatore DiRosa Shandi is a great Song without a doubt. The Rest, No way! Just to Upgrade myself: Talk to Me, next to "Shandi" is also a great Song.
KissGuitarKovers
Agreed!!! With songs like:
Naked City, Easy As It Seems, Is That You?, Shandi, Two Sides Of The Coin, She's So European, Torpedo Girl {KILLER bass riff!!!},.....???
What's NOT to love?!!!🤘
Unmasked is one of my favorite KISS albums!!!!
How i wish Eric would have lived and get in to another band instead of Beeing bullied and controlled he deserved to be in a good band! With nice folks! A nice soul! Deserves other nice souls!
So frustrating when good dudes end up departing too early because of some fucked up rare form of cancer, yet so many assholes live into their 80s and beyond. RIP Eric.
If this is true I salute them for welcoming him so readily and not being douche bags and hazing him and all that stuff as I've heard metallica did to Jason Newsted
This is fascinating. Thanks for posting!
I read some of Paul Stanley's autobiography and when I saw what he wrote about Eric I was disgusted.
I think Paul was very jealous of him.
I remember seeing a video of Eric playing a drum solo and the girls were screaming for him, which Paul would have heard.
I've always wanted to be in a successful rock band.
I'm glad I wasn't in KISS.
God bless Ace, Peter and Vinnie.
God rest Eric, Mark and Bob.
I read somewhere that Paul and Eric both took a liking to the same girl, but Eric saw her first. When Eric heard that Paul put the moves on her, he got really angry. That might have been the reason for Eric’s silence towards Paul on the Crazy Nights tour. Paul, of course, won’t admit that.
@@ronbroadfoot279 I know something similar happened between Gene and Eric but this isn’t the first time I have heard this story about Paul making a move on a girl Eric liked, it now makes sense why Eric wasn’t talking to Paul during the crazy nights era.
@@ronbroadfoot279 where did you find that information? I'm interested O:
Paul is talented, probably the most talented guy in KISS, but he's a legend in his own mind. I'll take Rick Emmett from Triumph over him in a heartbeat
3:52. “Heaven forbid we put him in a character people already knew. That seemed too obvious to us and maybe sacrilegious.”
Ahem….🤔
Eric Carr was our best Drummers, but we will never forget him.
God bless you eric
What's this from, an audiobook?
Eric carr would always be the beast drummer
Eric Carr is the best drummer Kiss ever had!
I totally agree with you!
Eric Carr must have shit a brick when he found out he was trying out for KISS
Carmine Appice, Billy Cobham, and Louie Bellson were playin Dbl bass well before the hair metal days ! Had nothin to do with Bonham ! Eric Carr and Vinnie saved ur ass paul !! Peter Criss was correct, by the end of the 70s, Kiss was a Vegas act !! Talkin shit about ur deceased bandmate when according to his girlfriend, you and Gene didn't even visit him at the hospital !! RIP Eric, you gave Kiss the thunder they needed and Creatures of the Night is one of the best kiss albums ever !!
Eric Carr was the perfect drummer for Kiss at that time and would have continued to be great. He was a class act. I don’t know who the best drummer out of him and Eric Singer is they are both great but Eric Carr I’s definitely my favorite although I like singer to. Never have been and never will be Criss fan
Other than the original line-up, I always loved the band when Eric and Vinnie were there.
I much prefer Eric with Bruce in it
KISS is best when 50% Italian! I agree! HEAVY AND LOUD!
I always wondered where did they recorded Eric's drum tracks on creatures of the night record
If Peter was such a bad drummer, why did Paul and Gene hire him in the first place?
John Valleau or hire him a second time?
They couldn’t find anyone else. Seriously.
Look up the clip of "Paul Stanley on meeting Peter Criss for the first time" to have your answer.
Criss had this unhinged, almost punk rock kind of drumming which gave the band its sound. It fit the songs they came up with so they got him into the band.
He didnt suck in the beginning
Because he rocked. So do some other nonmusicians. Usually punks.
Ace was Paul so Paul was Eric because Stan was already Paul.
The only difference is that Paul legally changed his name to Paul Stanley, Ace never legally changed his name. He’s still technically Paul. Eric also well never legally changed his name. He was still Paul Caravello when he died.
"acting proper in a restaurant"
my uncle was the head chef of a restaurant where these guys threw wine bottles at a wall of mirrors, doing over 20k in damage.
hahahaha "acting proper in a restaurant" my ass.
that being said, that story was my introduction to kiss as a child.
i'm still a fan at 41.
Around 3-4 minute mark: we didn’t want him to have an existing persona...that seemed almost sacrilegious. Eric came up with The Fox.
Cut to the 2000s...Thayer and Singer take on existing personas as Spaceman and Catman.
They at least should have been new characters.
Éric Carr was a fantastic Drummer !
I love Peter Criss. Appreciate Eric Singer. But Eric was my guy.
Is the audio deepfake or is Paul really that monotone
Yes Paul, it is sac religious to dress someone else in another band members makeup. 😧
IKR the irony in his statement
Paul: I’m right you’re wrong shut up!
The only reason Paul and Gene liked Eric was that he was easy to control.
"Heaven forbid we put him in a costume everybody knew"
Eric Singer= Carman
Tommy Thayer= Space Man
🙄
Carman?
Eric must've been willing to put out for for a while. That's the most praise I've ever heard come out of Paul's mouth.
I'd have painted the 924 camo anyway. If it ain't in the contract, I'm doin' whatever I want with my ride.
Peter wasn’t a fantastic Drummer but he wasn’t that god awful. Eric Carr was probably my favorite member aside from Ace Frehley
Peter was actually a pretty good drummer all things considered, at least before the drugs and alcohol overwhelmed him. You just gotta remember, Peter’s background was from a different kind of music, a swing/big band style, not rock at all. So I would say Eric was probably a better fit for the band, his hero was John Bonham , and his musical mindset was more in line with what Kiss was trying to do. In fact, Eric was into Mettalica at the time, so if anything Paul and Gene had to sort of reign him in. Imagine being hyped about joining what had always
Classically been a hard rock band and then recording music from the elder WTF??
Anyway, Peter did a great job on the first 6 albums, and particularly to the first 4. His playing on Alive was about the only thing they kept, just about everything else had to be red done. So there was nothing wrong with Peter’s playing, he just wasn’t really a rock drummer
Any one who questions Eric Carr's drumming, compare Peter's "Strutter" to Eric's "I love it loud". 'Nuff said.
We didn't want to put him in makeup & a costume that was already known..lol lol lol lol. Tommy Thayer & Eric Singer should have got their own character makeup & costumes.
To welcome him they bought him a Porche 924? The 924 was the cheapest of the entire Porche range and was made in collaboration with Volkswagen simply to enable the common man to be able to buy one. They were rust bucket pieces of shit so Kiss clearly didn't think that much of the new member.
Dude, it's still a brand new car. Anyone who thinks like you is an ungrateful engreat!!!
Coy Leigh *ingrate
I don't know anyone who would turn down a new car given to them.
@@coyleigh5163 no way how can you say that. Don't buy a gift if it's going to be the cheapest ride they have. To me it's a punch in the face knowing the dough they had typical Jews.
The 924 was an entry level Porsche.....but it wasn’t cheap and it was a nice gift to say hello with
I think they ment to say "Eric Cartman "...respect my authorita!!
"Acting properly at a Restraunt " Ha! My old band definitely was not good at that.
Its sad that Peter Criss (that had experience with jazz drumming) had decaded in basic things like keeping in tempo
what does "decaded" mean?
dave tay it means that his drumming skill decreased
eric- that's not a real word lol
Tom Johnson yes, peter is a great drummer (he experience in jazz drumming), thats why i got sad, cause its sad great musicians leting their skills going away
Eric C. Souza Indeed
Wait a minute, nobody really knew who Anton Fig was at the time. He'll I thought Peter actually played in unmasked lol
"Heaven forbid" & "sacrilegious", then you did it with Eric and Tommy. Paul's double talk, again !!!
R.I.P. Eric Carr
At least he didn’t wear Peters makeup
But he did wear Peter's boots. Lol
Paul tends to contradict himself quite regularly
Play frisbee with this guy Eric car and dan spitz of anthrax in the parking lot of the Orange bowl at the monsters of rock very cool guys !⚡️⚡️⚡️
Creatures of the night tour was awesome.
Only problem was it didn't draw in North America. I'm sure they still put on a great show (I was 12 then, too young to see it), but they played to a lot of half-empty arenas on that tour. They did well in South America, including the huge Rio show near the end of the tour, but that had more to do with the fact that they had never played there before 1983.
Eric, was a great drummer....may he rest in peace. Paul, I also agree that God forbid you guys redo a character....so don't you think it's time Thayer and Eric Singer had their own persona? Anyways....been diggin some Kiss since I was a little thing with my Donald Duck turntable being one of my first memories... I also heard dressed to kill on 8-track in my big brothers Nova he had.....ran the battery dead and he was beyond pissed because I ruined his date for the night!!!
Who gives a person a gift Porsche or not and then tells them what they can or cant do with it?
So, what Paul is saying..........We already had a character in mind, but sometimes it is what is and you have to...."
Where is this from. I need The full story
Paul Stanley: Face the Music - A life exposed ruclips.net/p/PLYsNsEitoOuZe43obn29TMRwchTwIjhjI
Double bass drums were started by Ginger Baker. Easily a few years before anyone knew who John Bonham was.
Jazz drummers were doing it long before Baker
Eric Carr is his 2 name I can’t believe it
Hey, I bought 'unmasked'...I was 10 and didn't know any better..
Poor eric rip
Hahaha.. the first thing he tells Carr is, "Don't worry, I won't treat you like shit the way I treated Criss."...LOL