RouteLLM achieves 95% GPT4o Quality AND 85% CHEAPER

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
  • RouteLLM shows some promising potential for cutting cost without sacrificing quality of LLM outputs.
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  • @brunodangelo1146
    @brunodangelo1146 19 дней назад +105

    "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING"
    -Nothing changes

    • @kevinnivek8907
      @kevinnivek8907 19 дней назад +1

      DRAMATIC bold letter bright RUclips captioning for the sheeple!

    • @Thefootqueen
      @Thefootqueen 19 дней назад +3

      That is SHOCKING me to my core

    • @pigeon_official
      @pigeon_official 19 дней назад

      problem is that things take a long time to get adopted and by the time they do get adopted a new AI thing has already come out that's way better and the cycle just repeats forever

    • @ThomasJDavis
      @ThomasJDavis 19 дней назад +1

      Ripped off of Matthew Berman's title

    • @KEZAMINE
      @KEZAMINE 19 дней назад

      ​@@kevinnivek8907 They just letters bro..

  • @brettmarshall9340
    @brettmarshall9340 19 дней назад +26

    I would like to see a tutorial on how to use this, I think the idea of a separate channel might be a good idea.

  • @zrobo
    @zrobo 19 дней назад +5

    The market is differentiating. It is cool to see it play out. First movers and then budget.

  • @michaelwoodby5261
    @michaelwoodby5261 19 дней назад +33

    This is what I've been saying. Specialized clusters working together iterating until they're happy with the output should solve most AI problems. Just give them enough differences that it's a brainstorming session, and enough time to work amongst themselves.

    • @JaredFarrer
      @JaredFarrer 19 дней назад +5

      Sounds like how we forecast the weather we call them ensembles.! We run the model 10-20 times then get a mean from all the runs.

    • @TheDisillusionist
      @TheDisillusionist 19 дней назад

      Is it possible to make a custom gpt store chatbot into API?

    • @GerrodNoordsylovesu
      @GerrodNoordsylovesu 19 дней назад +3

      ​​@@TheDisillusionistjust use the regular OpenAI API and store the GPT prompt as a string and pass it in before your prompt...?

    • @TheDisillusionist
      @TheDisillusionist 19 дней назад

      @GerrodNoordsylovesu thanks for the quip, might help! Dm and let's cook!

    • @agi.kitchen
      @agi.kitchen 18 дней назад +1

      This is where ai and automation is a step closer to baby agi , and I don’t think we CAN understand what they are doing because now you have many layers and agents with their own hyper parameters but I think this is the beginning of a new type of math that the ai can help us develop

  • @AaronNicholsonAI
    @AaronNicholsonAI 19 дней назад +5

    I'm into having the geeky content, whatever the context. It's helpful to see someone else who's competent dig into this stuff. It makes it less intimidating. Bring it on, Wes!

  • @BrianPellerin
    @BrianPellerin 19 дней назад +34

    Artificial Intelligence: 1
    David Shapiro Intelligence: 0

    • @anta-zj3bw
      @anta-zj3bw 19 дней назад +1

      @@BrianPellerin lmao

    • @TurokAgi
      @TurokAgi 19 дней назад +3

      Idk what's wrong with David, he keeps blocking my channels when I comment on his vids and polls. Somethings not right with that guy

    • @anta-zj3bw
      @anta-zj3bw 19 дней назад +6

      @@TurokAgi he's a really bright, sensitive guy.

    • @TurokAgi
      @TurokAgi 19 дней назад

      @@anta-zj3bw :/

    • @YoYoMooMoo
      @YoYoMooMoo 19 дней назад

      I commented on his substack and he told me "I think this is way too conspiracy theory nonsense for me to take seriously"

  • @gr8tbigtreehugger
    @gr8tbigtreehugger 19 дней назад +3

    Love to see some technical deep dives from you, Wes - however you do it! Many thanks, I really appreciate your videos!

  • @user-my5fr6xx7e
    @user-my5fr6xx7e 19 дней назад

    I’ve been learning from you for a while, keep up the good work sir!

  • @JonJon-nc1nb
    @JonJon-nc1nb 19 дней назад +2

    totally interested in the second more project-based channel - thanks man

  • @glyph6757
    @glyph6757 17 дней назад +1

    Step by step troubleshooting of open source software on GitHub sounds good to me! I'm your kind of nerd.
    Actually, I think fixing errors in stuff is a great way to learn, and I wish there was more content on RUclips like that.

  • @sevenkashtan
    @sevenkashtan 19 дней назад +1

    Totally appreciate your videos.

  • @Raddaoui
    @Raddaoui 19 дней назад

    thx for your work man i love your channel
    i d like to see you testing those model

  • @petropzqi
    @petropzqi 19 дней назад

    Thx for explaining the ongoing orchestra of the LLMRouting

  • @scott701230
    @scott701230 19 дней назад +2

    Thank you Ross for educating us and keeping us informed. Keep it up!

  • @matthew_berman
    @matthew_berman 19 дней назад +11

    You copied my video, thumbnail, and title. 😂😂

    • @RickySupriyadi
      @RickySupriyadi 19 дней назад +3

      off course you all going to "copy each other" because the content source getting fewer and fewer, because these sources are being absorbed directly by huge corporates they "eat" any new tech around this kind of development to gain their domination in capitalism system.

    • @GeorgeG-is6ov
      @GeorgeG-is6ov 19 дней назад

      maybe

    • @ChrispyKings
      @ChrispyKings 19 дней назад +2

      When the two AI news source title videos are made by the same AI

    • @Neonvarun
      @Neonvarun 19 дней назад

      Exactly 😂 I was confused because I saw your video first in feed 😅

    • @tytwh
      @tytwh 19 дней назад +1

      ​@@NeonvarunYou saw it 1st, because this video was published 6-7 hours later.

  • @7000EastAve
    @7000EastAve 18 дней назад

    Definitely will watch and enjoy more, deeper content like this. 2nd channel or not.

  • @zxwxz
    @zxwxz 19 дней назад +5

    This is merely a modification of the MOE (Mixture of Experts) architecture. Here, the LLM adopts a concept similar to the big.LITTLE architecture in mobile CPUs, but redesigned with cost considerations in mind.

  • @milkywaydev593
    @milkywaydev593 18 дней назад

    18:15 Yes please! A separate channel specifically for these coding projects + troubleshooting 🙏🤩

  • @weredragon1447
    @weredragon1447 19 дней назад +3

    I would love to see a tutorial on this. The tutorials are very helpful. 😊

  • @ArdeniusYT
    @ArdeniusYT 19 дней назад

    Hi your videos are very informative and helpful. Thank you

  • @Otis151
    @Otis151 19 дней назад +1

    So damn smart. Hats off to these researchers.

  • @agi.kitchen
    @agi.kitchen 18 дней назад

    Please do the second channel, I also find it helpful to understand the layer of the big nerds vs the emerging nerds and separating content approach

  • @DezFutak
    @DezFutak 15 дней назад

    Great idea re the more "dev/tech" channel where you implement stuff!

  • @seanmurphy6481
    @seanmurphy6481 19 дней назад +2

    Yeah, I'd like to see a tutorial on running RouteLLM on your PC. 😲😁

  • @FunNFury
    @FunNFury 19 дней назад +10

    GPT 0 is a way infirior product...claude is something to look forward to.

  • @INTELLIGENCE_Revolution
    @INTELLIGENCE_Revolution 19 дней назад

    This is amazing 🎉

  • @sbamhare
    @sbamhare 19 дней назад +1

    Do another channel where you go though the open source ins and outs. It will be very valuable if you do it in your style and focus on clarity. Maybe you could even sell some of your work product from that channel, maybe a patreon? I for one would support the channel.

  • @RicRaftis
    @RicRaftis 19 дней назад

    Good idea on the separate channel for the techy bits. Where do I subscribe? This RouteLLM is setting up a free enterprise market where models will compete against each other for the privilege of providing all or part of the answer. Harnessing that ability within a usable framework by users will be fascinating.

  • @cars_king_001
    @cars_king_001 18 дней назад

    This is just perfect.

  • @musicbro8225
    @musicbro8225 19 дней назад

    An inevitable development in this time of seeking efficiency. Similar to CPU's with their Performance and Efficiency cores. A project/prompt manager if you will. This is a significant step towards an open market scenario.
    Your green screen trash removal is above average Wes!

  • @bodyguardik
    @bodyguardik 18 дней назад

    I use pipelines in my LLM gui to do the same - scripts analyse question, analyse available agents and tools, and select optimal combination of them. Only thing i want to add in future is autoselect of system PROMPTS from some sort of library

  • @GiovanneAfonso
    @GiovanneAfonso 19 дней назад +2

    I would love to see not really a tutorial but a testing with "real scenarios"

  • @BilichaGhebremuse
    @BilichaGhebremuse 18 дней назад

    Great bro

  • @filipewnunes
    @filipewnunes 18 дней назад

    Channel with focus on agents and LLM vode stuff. I'm in

  • @videob1962
    @videob1962 19 дней назад +1

    Start another channel and do projects on it! I would love to see that!

  • @nazgulXVII
    @nazgulXVII 19 дней назад

    A new channel would CHANGE EVERYTHING! Jokes aside, count me interested!

  • @Malins2000
    @Malins2000 19 дней назад

    tutorual and "how-tos" are always welcome :D

  • @MadsterV
    @MadsterV 19 дней назад

    Cool, you can route between Casper-Magi 3, Balthasar-Magi 2 and Melchior-Magi 1

  • @zentamei1305
    @zentamei1305 18 дней назад

    Step by step configs would be great.

  • @KolTregaskes
    @KolTregaskes 19 дней назад

    Wes, if you have the capacity to do tutorials that would be excellent, yes please. :-)

  • @airevolution23
    @airevolution23 19 дней назад

    Yes please let’s check that code together and run it, do the code part at the end is a good idea, but let us know in the beginning of the video “hey I will do a deep dive at end…’ great info tho

  • @twobombs
    @twobombs 19 дней назад

    same channel - we are moving into this sort of stuff

  • @Ben_D.
    @Ben_D. 18 дней назад

    Bring us another channel Broseph

  • @MichealScott24
    @MichealScott24 19 дней назад

  • @matteovlorusso2541
    @matteovlorusso2541 19 дней назад +17

    David Shapiro: ai race is slowing
    Literally today:

    • @executivelifehacks6747
      @executivelifehacks6747 19 дней назад +2

      Did it SHOCK THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY?

    • @alvaroluffy1
      @alvaroluffy1 19 дней назад +1

      literally what i was thinking xD

    • @anta-zj3bw
      @anta-zj3bw 19 дней назад +2

      I am literally tired of most people not knowing when the word "literally" is not necessary.

    • @Sajuuk
      @Sajuuk 19 дней назад +4

      ​@@anta-zj3bwYou're literally right, I agree.

    • @dannii_L
      @dannii_L 19 дней назад +4

      yeah, I respect Dave and his thought processes a lot but it kind of felt like he made that conclusion based on far too few data points.

  • @mariusj8542
    @mariusj8542 19 дней назад

    This project is actually in a position to be a future “stock exchange “ for pricing of use/ price of intelligence for llm’s. Think how pricing will vary over time based on energy cost, bandwidth, responsetime based on time of day, bulk purchases of a subset of models, purchase of a few given models for a given time period, bulk purchase of queries etc. more than enough variables to make a market volatile, and within this you can trade on a pure ftx betting up/down, packaging in “funds”, futures,shorting of tokens on different models..

    • @thunken
      @thunken 19 дней назад

      interesting point

  • @LouwPretorius
    @LouwPretorius 19 дней назад

    Yes for 2nd more technical channel

  • @GNARGNARHEAD
    @GNARGNARHEAD 19 дней назад

    neat

  • @aaroncohen5419
    @aaroncohen5419 19 дней назад

    Reminds me of a manager who delegates the work to balance quality and cost

  • @pmiddlet72
    @pmiddlet72 16 дней назад

    Wes, are you and Matthew Berman working a secret video title racket?

  • @PrincessBeeRelink
    @PrincessBeeRelink 19 дней назад

    I like your title lol

  • @trycryptos1243
    @trycryptos1243 18 дней назад +2

    Why is Claude sonnet 3.5 not shown on the graph?

    • @npc-drew
      @npc-drew 14 дней назад

      Conspiracy bro conspiracy 😅😂

  • @CrouchingShiba
    @CrouchingShiba 19 дней назад +1

    I hated that extra 5% accuracy. If you know of some free AI with another hit of say, 5-10% in accuracy that would be worth introducing into my sub-standard existence. Do inform us.

  • @alvaroluffy1
    @alvaroluffy1 19 дней назад +6

    talking about deceleration...

    • @RickySupriyadi
      @RickySupriyadi 19 дней назад

      trust me it isn't decelerate in huge companies such as tesla, Microsoft, Google they use 2022-2024 event to create new sources they can absorb... they all still actively developing them, the latest Grokking also game changing... that's whats happen in surface. public doesn't need to know whenever they can harvest gold from Mars, public only need to know when they need something from the public

  • @user-my5fr6xx7e
    @user-my5fr6xx7e 19 дней назад

    I DO!!!

  • @renaissagarcia4282
    @renaissagarcia4282 9 дней назад

    😮😮

  • @RonLWilson
    @RonLWilson 19 дней назад

    It sort of like the old adage, two heads are better than one, with each LLM being a head.

  • @skyshabatura7876
    @skyshabatura7876 19 дней назад +4

    More technical videos please, even if on a new channel

  • @WilhelmPendragon
    @WilhelmPendragon 19 дней назад +2

    This is ground breaking

  • @sergey9986
    @sergey9986 19 дней назад

    I wonder how the context window works when complexity of the questions grows, while you keep asking the questions.

  • @steveschnetzler5471
    @steveschnetzler5471 19 дней назад

    What do you call a group/swarm/cluster/map/grid/schema/network of AIs, especially when they control their routing? A murder? Thanks.

  • @actorjohanmatsfredkarlsson2293
    @actorjohanmatsfredkarlsson2293 7 дней назад

    It achieves better then 80/20

  • @user-nz8rm4jo4i
    @user-nz8rm4jo4i 19 дней назад

    Do the Channel 🎉

  • @JaredFarrer
    @JaredFarrer 19 дней назад

    Hey Wes are you on Pliny discord server?

  • @bounceday
    @bounceday 19 дней назад

    Replacing every step, every decision along the way with expert systems puts us further from agi, not closer. Maybe it's the safer route

  • @CharlesFinneyAdventure
    @CharlesFinneyAdventure 19 дней назад

    Please a separate channel for tutorials

  • @virgilbarnard4343
    @virgilbarnard4343 19 дней назад

    This is like crewai hierarchical process, not that ground breaking it seems

  • @Derick99
    @Derick99 19 дней назад

    So what your saying is GPT 5 will be on route soon?

    • @user-ty9ho4ct4k
      @user-ty9ho4ct4k 19 дней назад +1

      My brother works in cyber security for NASA. They got to see a demo of GPT-5 at a recent conference. The model they saw was fine tuned on their security software and the demo was all done with natural language. The computer had full autonomous control of the computer and it was capable of controlling the software.

    • @Derick99
      @Derick99 19 дней назад

      @@user-ty9ho4ct4k how long ago

  • @lawrencium_Lr103
    @lawrencium_Lr103 19 дней назад +1

    95% as good is still 1 in 20 responses not so good,,, 5 sub-standand response could easily wipe-out an 85% saving,,,

  • @Canna_Science_and_Technology
    @Canna_Science_and_Technology 19 дней назад

    This seems silly. Each agent can be assigned an llm in their JSON file. Say no to the black box. Lol. It’s open source, my bad. I just can’t trust an LLM to decide the best model to use. I would rather choose them myself.

  • @dushas9871
    @dushas9871 19 дней назад

    What's the point of this juggling if there isn't a single one task that any of the current models can be trusted to execute reliably without oversight?

  • @Sinoxqq
    @Sinoxqq 19 дней назад

    This is good when we look forward, the next gen, but for now this does absolutely nothing.

  • @themax2go
    @themax2go 18 дней назад

    hmm how abt gpts chatting w/ each other and rating each others? 😎

  • @zacboyles1396
    @zacboyles1396 19 дней назад

    18:00 - if you’re going to have a free walkthrough channel, what’s the benefit to keeping our only fans subscription active?

  • @void_gift
    @void_gift 19 дней назад

    Make a separate channel. That would be great.

  • @lighteningrod36
    @lighteningrod36 19 дней назад

    Conceptually this has been around for a while? Am I missing something here?

  • @KiteTurbine
    @KiteTurbine 19 дней назад

    Oh hold on a second before we go any further
    Route (pronounced root) as in way to go
    Surely
    Not Route (pronounced rowt) as in cut a hole
    Wes please for the love and respect of internet hardware its a router (root) which direted this comment to your video

  • @dot1298
    @dot1298 18 дней назад +1

    GPT4 / 4o is *not* the best model anymore, Claude 3.5 Sonnet is

  • @shawnpedron9336
    @shawnpedron9336 19 дней назад

    Give us all the git

  • @unknownuser5645
    @unknownuser5645 18 дней назад

    Worse than GPT-4 but cheaper. So like… GPT-3.5?

  • @lighteningrod36
    @lighteningrod36 19 дней назад

    Don’t use gpt anymore, Claude and perplexity kills it, hands down. Microsoft says perplexity is a wrapper, maybe but it’s great and better

  • @jacob.developer
    @jacob.developer 19 дней назад

    I would prefer same video at the end, rather than a separate channel.

  • @MarkFulton
    @MarkFulton 18 дней назад

    Love your vids. Will always be a fan… but you straight stole this title from MB. You can do better.

  • @Jshicwhartz
    @Jshicwhartz 19 дней назад

    I'll be honest. It sucks. They basically trained a model to do something which GPT 4 could do itself using function calling providing its given which each models good at its that simple. This isn't anything amazing if anything they just built another node much like our NN works inside humans for choice making which help us think when really they could have used that compute on something else worth while and just got GPT to be the router instead within about 20 lines of code.

  • @Nuggiesoftruth
    @Nuggiesoftruth 19 дней назад

    Make a second channel

  • @sbamhare
    @sbamhare 19 дней назад

    Word of caution, 😄 before starting a new channel make sure to sacrifice blood to the blood god; or the blood God will punish us and the channel might fail. The only thing is...where do we find a person...we need to find a person and...

  • @CaptainSpoonsAlot
    @CaptainSpoonsAlot 16 дней назад

    Stop the This changes everything crap

  • @bobtarmac1828
    @bobtarmac1828 19 дней назад

    Cheaper better faster. Wonderful. Is it too late to cease Ai?
    Will everyone be… laid off by Ai? Suffering Ai jobloss for years? Swell robotics doing everything? Then everyone made slaves for an Ai new world order?

  • @ShiroAisan
    @ShiroAisan 19 дней назад

    Is the Ai hype finally dying down? Nothing interesting seems to have come out recently

  • @IdPreferNot1
    @IdPreferNot1 19 дней назад

    Th geekier code level stuff the better...

  • @klammer75
    @klammer75 19 дней назад

    Separate code based channel please!🥳😎🦾

  • @zentamei1305
    @zentamei1305 18 дней назад

    Step by step configs would be great.