AI News: OpenAI is up to something *new*
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Rumors of OpenAI's next big thing as they block China and announce a new "app".
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00:00 OpenAI Blocks China
01:55 New Release Rumors
02:35 AI Coach AI, backed by OpenAI
04:05 My Thoughts on "AI Health Coaches"
06:44 Why is OpenAI so quiet?
12:45 Noam Brown
The China "equitable" argument for access is a red herring for western journalists, for sure.
And also the developers in China, like everywhere else, just want to get to work. Sure, as in any group, there are a nefarious few - ones who share much in common with their western counterparts who occasionally take a break from spying on their own citizens to engage in anti human activities. The vast majority simply want to build without virtue signaling political interference from self important flatulence.
1,000,000% you would have to be a fool not to see this for what it is
Can you elaborate? Do you mean they're trying to bait western journos into siding with them?
@@Penrose707most can't because all the information we consume has very strict guidelines around delivering that message. As soon as he started delivering that message, all of his views would drop to nothing. I can prove this with two different Raekwon the chef videos about him singing about Osama bin Laden lol. The first one 6,000 views in 2 days.
The second one on a similar tiny channel? Like 30 views lol.
Oh absolutely calling BS on any chinese model surpassing OpenAI
I think that automating video games is a huge step towards generally useful AI models. There's so many things you have to get right in order to play a game, particularly an open ended game, and plenty of those things have crossover with the real world in a variety of capacities. From things like object permanence to strategizing, to operating in an environment in an agentic way... These are all things that somebody is going to randomly figure out one day and go "oh, that's neat, I can automate X task I don't want to do in the game" only to fail to realize that "Oh, there's a related task in the real world that doesn't need to be done by people anymore".
Yes and generative AI merging with VR & mixed reality is gonna be huge.However that requires insane processing and energy but I can be done
as someone with limited use of their hands, I LOVE AUTOMATED GAMES! when you're mindful of how much you can click, the endless repetition of idiotic game loops gets really frustrating, I'd much rather sit back and make the meaningful choices
bruh wht, the loops are good. we can respawn
9:05 "chatgpt" has become a household name like "kleenex" at this point
Or Google as a verb despite other search engines
@@Edbrad exactly
AI + Nudge = Big Brother 2.0
Google had tons of political power from their rank ordering of searches.
Imagine the power to control a person's reality when you're *composing* the answers to all the questions a person is interested in.
It's Big Brother 3.0 when AI goes from oracle to coach.
Finally someone's thinking 👌
Suggestions to be healthier and more productive? Oh the horror! Just like any other person that has fear mongered technology advancement, you will be left behind.
@@jmd489
PhD in Electrical Engineering
Unlikely I'm being left behind technologically.
More likely I'm better able to navigate between beneficial implementations and harmful ones.
If you're not wary of the harms tech can impose, you will not be as successful.
Keep in mind that the chart shown does not include app usage statistics....
This is a very important caveat I was not thinking about when looking at the chart. We don't know to what extent those logins are single uses versus extended sessions. It is entirely plausible that perplexity and claude have a much higher average use per login than ChatGPT (I'm sure it's not enough to make up the difference, but still...)
Terrifying privacy issues
The idea of a health coach is an interesting idea... but also imagine a personal assistant that is mostly helpful... but also designed to guide you in certain ways... just in minor ways that gradually guide you to the desired destination. For example, it guides to you do something just before lunch time, so that you end up buying lunch at a particular establishment. Or a model could be built to give different answers for a particular person - encouraging them to do risk taking behavior for example.
Can't wait till my AI doctor advises me to eat three rocks every day...
Don't be afraid... it's going to be OK. 😊
It could be worse, they could tell you to eat three seashells.
I can easily imagine a SF movie with a worldwide BlackBox AI trained by that only one company which will recommend (if not force) you to take that medicine/injection sold by a sister company *wink*wink*. I will always prefer many diagnostics over 1 unique one, we are not ready for AI yet in our society, we need first to get rid of the concept of "money over everything" imo, then...AI can come.
Don’t forget the glue
a few pebbles a day never harmed anyone
Your camera is overexposed and your mic is too hot (gain too high / distorting)
Hi, probably gpt 4o api multimodal prompts and embedding. your videos are very informative and helpful. thank you. AI news is addictive.
I want to see Ai play Age of Empires 4 and what crazy tactics they come up with
I've been using gpt as health coach for about a year now. When memory became avaliable it went from being extremely useful to extremely useful and effective.
The benchmarks were never designed to be a proxy for the typical tasks that LLMs are used for today.
What are?
AI personalization is going to be the name of the game going forward. Whoever makes the AI that will seamlessly plug into your life and be personalized to you will win.
It’s like developers can’t use proxies 😂 they are not tech savvy enough
We just have to wait the inevitable required time for them to train their new bigger model at the real next scale. Historically it's been 2-3 years in between each, I don't understand why so many people get all shambled up about it not being here right now. If it gets released this year that would already be much earlier than we should normally expect.
I tend to think that the release time will continue to get shorter as the technology itself plays a larger part in improving itself.
I used to multibox 4 WoW accounts on an RP-PvP server, and then I went on to play a variety of technical roles at LARPs and stuff. This explains, in part, why my AI work is so weird and nonstandard.
Interactive experiences like LARP relates to the stuff like healthcare bots in ways we haven't clued into yet.
I guess I'll pivot the Hipster Energy Club into some sort of AI integrated philosophy and ethics as a service platform.
Automating complex games is fascinating because it is a herald to real industrial automation
“Eat 3 rocks a day” - new meaning for “Google Docs” 😁
Some day ai won't be that dumb and the people who hang on to the little mistakes it makes in it's infancy will be left behind. Same group as trump tards.
I am making my own prediction of OpenAI release date. Nov 30, 2024. Why? This is the same date that ChatGPT was released which was Nov 30th, 2022. This would be a smart move for the history books. Nov 30th, will always be remembered as the day that OpenAI changes the world. Since they are doing 2 year cycles, GPT6 would be Nov 30, 2026 which would align toward possible AGI like systems in 2027.
Also importantly after the US general election on Nov 5th.
Great insights on OpenAI's collaborations with health startups and Hollywood studios. These partnerships could lead to significant advancements in both healthcare and entertainment industries. Looking forward to seeing what comes next!
@ Wes Roth what do you recommend for merging models together? For example: 5- models that are all around 5gb in size. 7B and 4bit-Q.
Bro you realize he is the furthest thing from a researcher 😂? I got you though. Google “evolutionary optimization of model merging recipes”. One of the original authors of the original transformer paper is behind this method. So you already know it’s 🔥. The best model merging method I’ve used. If you’re really built like that. The most effective merging method(applies to fine tuning too), use your downstream dataset to determine subnetworks with the most semantically relevant representations(this is extremely useful since it’s hard to know what knowledge models lack), freeze the rest, this is a pathway to fine tuning with no forgetting too, you can use this to create non-redundant new subnetworks, knowledge sharing from prior subnetworks. Working with subnetwork vs whole dense models is superior in every way but way harder to implement.
Good luck in your journey.
I really like Gemini...
OpenAI has the brand-product association
So OpenAI isn't open in terms of open source, but that's okay because it's open for all to use to benefit all humanity (China not included)
👏👏👏
True AI Assistant would be awesome. Speech mode also very useful seems. Helping to connect and be mentally healthy sounds great
Thanks for the great coverage Wes
Claude is my goto for accuracy at this time but I periodically hit 3 with the same question and see which is currently giving the best most accurate answer.
I was tracking calories for some time and it really helped me losing weight. But it was a hassle entering all the ingredients of my food, especially if you dont cook it yourself. I imagine an ai tool as a personal health coach to be the most useful thing for me in the short term. Imagine you just taking a picture of your meal and the ai estimating the calories and nutrients with an error bar, so you can take the error into account.
Trackers are good but what I found a few years back that many problems like calorie counting on pool laps or pull ups had no accurate app out yet. With AI now I think these are provable right or wrong but since undone yet there was no measure of truth. It is happening now with people solving base truth through consensus, fact check and reference. Great video Wes!
I've asked various models for information on health. It sort of gets things right, with more reliability it could be excellent. I also had it create a meal plan, based on macros, for each of the days of the week based on what my exercise output is and then asked it to make a shopping list. It worked pretty well tbh.
I am sure this has nothing to do with the new board member.
On the growth stats: Those are just the *_web visits_* - it doesn’t count mobile or desktop apps, because those are connecting via API calls. (Their compute bill for inference must be staggering 🤯)
Very often I wonder why I still need to manually enter my food into Cronometer.
90% of my consumption is repetitive behavior, depending on if I work from home or the office, if family comes to visit and especially on what I bought before.
I would be really happy about AI support in that field.
9:26 OpenAi have so far has become the face of AI, the same way Google became a verb, despite other search engines.
Open AI : a lot of announcements, but nothing more as usual. It's always "soon"😤
They still haven't delivered on the last "new" thing. 4o roll out isn't complete. No GPT 5. No Q*.
I would love to see more content on how to use AI in regards to games/making bots or companions (skyrim). I'm not a developer but I love technology/video games and learning new ways to learn :)
Wes, I love your content and have huge respect for your precious input. The only thing I wish you did was to make sure every slide you are presenting is in night mode (much like Twitter which you thankfully do). My eyes are not as young as they used to be and staring at a white graph for 5 minutes straight is no longer a task I'm up for. Cheers.
"equitable" is actually a thing in China's governance. They actually practice better capitalism than the US because of this, as they don't allow any corporations to monopolize everything. I know, it is shocking to the increasingly far-right governments of the North Atlantic countries. But the US used to be like this too, a very long time ago.
*Reads title*
*Has internal monologue* ...Oh boy.
i agree with voice being better for frictionless computer use for things like giving us realtime info on our life, the issue is who gets access to this data, security, altho it would be good still but the corps would get too much access. we need a open local solution for this
TENCENT steal their code and misuse it? lol
if openAI had something new/revolutionary AI wise and asked that new state of the art AI thing to ruminate about the best strategies going forward, it likely would offer strategic possibilities so new and unique as to be beyond anticipation for to those behind the curve....
You're excited about LLMs being able to play games because it means that they are able to adapt to an environment and take action. They have some amount of agency, predicated on their ability to understand some end goal and coming up with and executing a series of steps working towards that goal. That's how the real world works, in my view. It seems like if you get these things intelligent enough then they'll be able to play warehouse just as well as they could play factorio - just a bunch of cameras everywhere and it makes decisions on what every robot should be doing at any given time as if it was playing a game.... cause it is. Sometimes I think this stuff's super close, and other times I feel like I'm being duped - only time will tell but this roller coaster ain't the best for my sanity!
8 reps, 40 lbs? You a school girl, @Wes
i was playing factorio while watching this lol
So what happened in April 2024 I’m guessing the announcement of the stuff we don’t have yet
I have a fully fleshed out 4 player board game that I play regularly with engineers for ten years. I approached a bunch of devs and send dozens of letters - can’t get a reply. There’s nothing like it but just a it’s on my shelf. I hope AI gets good enough so I can make it myself. Be no harder than making online chess (which is still too hard for me personally)
The problem with AI giving health advice is the same as a human doctor/nutritionist. Garbage in. Garbage out. So much of our current health advice comes from deeply flawed observational studies, often based on food frequency questionnaires. If the data the models is exposed to is of low quality, the advice it gives, however individually tailored will be suspect.
BTW, there's already a game like Risk where you have to negotiate alliances. Diplomacy.
It's been known for some time that well tuned models can be used to jump-start the training of new models - that is why China is being blocked.
I hope they will release the older model weights if a new gpt5 or w/e comes out. We still cant even run gpt 3.5 local or really mess with it. What happened to the "open" in open AI? 😢
ChatGPT wouldn't exist without magnitudes of out sourced data set. Why would training from ChatGPT be different?
AI for everyone, they said earlier. for the good of all mankind, they said
How about US hospitals actually give data to AI so it can help in many ways and not restrict it like they did with Watson. I mean they might lose billions but people's health is important right?
My gut says GPT5 would and should hold off until after the US election.
On the other hand, it would be nice for voters to know before the election what the president will have to deal with in a post GPT5 release world.
I predict a big reveal aligned to an Apple product announcement, so maybe around September to support the iPhone 16 hype train following their recent elevation to the board. Of course, doesn't mean there wont be another one as well.
Me: I felt so good last week what was I eating
(confabulating) AI: dog food
I go back and forth between ChatGPT and Claude every month or so; i find claude to have such a better personality.
The hype train needs more fuel!!
More users, GPT's intelligence evolves faster.
You mean even more announced but unavailable features.... I'm already containing my lack of excitement.
Bold assuming they're gonna release anything
I'm a little surprised by how niche claude still appears to be
You're talking like they will release gpt 5 but they still haven't release 4o yet..
The problem with AI is that it's energy inefficient and untrustworthy and it will clash with the green zealots! The only good thing is that might clean both and pop the AI bubble!
Can’t wait until my AI health coach tells me I need more PepsiCo convenience food items, but should avoid at all costs General Mills and Kellogg’s if I want to be my healthiest and happiest self, and to relieve my stress I should immediately purchase a variety of feel good fidget trinkets from Temu (I’ll go ahead and order it for you!!)
All with superhuman persuasive capabilities! Real time behavior nudging? What a recipe for disaster…
AI mastering games like CoD and WOW is very exciting for me given it's human dynamics (novel, spontaneous, cooperative, etc). As an ex-competitive-WoW healer, if an AI can perform that at a top level there in a raid, it can do almost anything in the real world. I dont play FPS games but imagine what level of fighter it would be if it was the best in Call of Duty? Scary.
Lol that's not gonna matter in competitive tho, it'll be more like a cheat. If you wanna kick back and enjoy hacks/cheats sure that'll be fun, but at the highest levels they're not gonna allow it, it's still gonna be human only.
But yea AI, once really implemented in the real world is gonna be groundbreaking, it really will be a "do anything" kind of ability. It's exciting to me.
Behavior change through micro decisions guided by the gpt4o combined with meta type glasses. Ive had this planned over 6 months now.
16:33 could be worse, you could have been hyping your audience for months that we'd have AGI by September lol
Wes you’re thinking of ‘Localization’,
its like a ‘cultural translation’ for slang terms and the like,
It's socioeconomic pressures that are causing poor heath choices. You cannot address the necessary changes in people unless their environment changes. Your perception of the success of these hyper personal health guidance models is from a privileged perspective.
Securing against potential cyber risks are probably actions recommended by the new board member who is a retired Army Cybersecurity expert.
It’s almost like OpenAI asked ChatGPT how to make a growth strategy to dominate the market, right?
does the Ai share data with the developers? because i spent the last month talking with the AI about creating personalized AI
Apple in its developer showcase a few weeks back said that Apple will never have access to your data as the AI model will encrypt data and will utilize encryption when offloading processing to Apple's AI servers. so in their own words they claim no, but they didn't explicitly state that OpenAI wouldn't have access to data, just that they(Apple) wouldn't.
logically thinking about things, I believe OpenAI will have access to data in some form to help train its models and help evolve them. to me that makes the most logical sense, but again - Apple has explicitly stated that they(Apple) won't have access to your data.
I won't be impressed by AI until they figure out how to use it to solve the housing problem.
So we never getting GPTO voice ...
Minecraft Baritone
Wes, I think it's pretty obvious that OPenAI is being nationalized eg Los Alamos, hence the timing on their position with China and opening up use of the model to the world no registering required, aka honeypotting it. All your prompts are belong to PRISM.
A rotten state with Ai in his hands...
Always something under radar then woop pop out
So let me guess.
It starts with A is for Apple, M is for Meta and Military & N for NSA chef both on the board add up to...
NSA at work... SMH
. Will it eventually control you through the access it has. Are there parameters it won't cross
We didn't even sign up for this
@@joshdickey2805 you don't have to buy an iphone or a macbook or any other product. when you buy any company's product, you quite literally sign up for whatever they have planned via Terms and Conditions agreement.
great
I stopped caring about openAI and doubt it has anything left in it. Sutskever was the inventive brain. (There are many PhDs, but only a few are geniuses).
GPT5 is definitely around the corner, plus at the end of the day we don't know squat of what kind of minds they have left, who else is joining etc
@@ToxicSapiens yes but he gave them the blueprint for AGI before he left. That's why is is starting the SSI company. He gave them the super villain, now he is building a super hero.
WOO!! Awesome stuff as always, Wes! :)
How would the average human score on AI Benchmarks and tests?
Open AI is releasing ChatBiden to become the new democratic nominee replacement
I'd vote for it.
Will take an AI talking Biden head in a jar over Trump.
At least it could get thru a speech
@@weshill222 It'd make more sense than Donnie....
That’s their 1B model that doesn’t run on GPUs, right?
Wait? Let me see if I have this correct. OpenAI is partnering with Apple, and you will have their AI on your phone whether you want it or not, and when their LLM updates to the next model, the phone automatically updates? Without you knowing or authorizing it? So you'll just look down at your iPhone, which will be 10x more intelligent with new unknown functions? On the device that contains every piece of information that is most critical for your survival in our society?
Suddenly, I'm not so annoyed that there is a Suno app and an 11labs app for iPhone.
"OpenAI is partnering with Apple, and you will have their AI on your phone whether you want it or not"
Yes Sister, but the thing is this - You've had AI (Narrow AI in the form of Siri) on your phone since Siri was introduced, you don't get a chance to remove Siri but you can disable it. furthermore, Narrow AI has been on our smartphones for a long time in the ways of things like Camera Services (features which helps enhance photography and photographs taken upon the phone).
"when their LLM updates to the next model, the phone automatically updates?"
From my understanding, no. The OpenAI Model which is being utilized by Apple isn't going to be the same GPT LLM which is accessible via OpenAI's website or API. I could be wrong but the Apple model will be customized and unique to Apple and Apple products. so when ChatGPT says updates to GPT5, your iPhone wont automatically update to GPT5. the update will have to come from and be pushed by Apple. but to be clear, not updating apps opens you up to security and bug vulnerabilities. so more than likely, Apple's AI will update as updates have ran in the past, notification of a iOS update and you can either not update or update.
"So you'll just look down at your iPhone, which will be 10x more intelligent with new unknown functions?"
Not necessarily, as Apple will likely include in update/patch notes what has changed. Yes it will become more intelligent overtime, but there shouldn't be any 'unknown functions'.
"On the device that contains every piece of information that is most critical for your survival in our society?"
Although I understand your sentiment, I don't quite agree with it. as you could lose your phone right this second and not die. yes, it may be a bit frustrating to do things or be difficult to remember numbers but you don't *need* your phone for survival. also, your iphone, right this second, holds all of that important information you're speaking of. there is nothing in the form of technology in modern times which isn't connected to the internet (i.e. IoT) also, given the recent push for AI into all tech, especially mobile devices, your current phone (again, Siri is a form of AI, it's considered 'Narrow AI') has all this important information accessible to Narrow AI models.
Google phones have Narrow AI (now more advanced AI with the Gemini Model).
"Suddenly, I'm not so annoyed that there is a Suno app and an 11labs app for iPhone."
Not trying to be a dick but being annoyed with AI is akin to being annoyed with the Sun rising every morning. AI is here, and it's Now. AI is also ushering in a new technological revolution and a new industrial revolution. its best to learn about AI and understand how it can be utilized in your life rather than being annoyed with it. this is just like when people feared computers or industrial equipment, no matter how much you want to dislike it or pretend it doesn't exist, life will change so rapidly and so indefinitely that it'll be impossible to escape from.
@JohnathanDHill for some reason, I didn't get a notification about this comment, or I would have replied sooner. 😊
Two clarifications: I don't have an iPhone. I have a Samsung Galaxy s24. According to Perplexity, "The Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra does not come with Siri. Siri is Apple's virtual assistant and is exclusive to Apple devices like iPhones, iPads, and Macs." So, I don't have Siri.
Second, I guess I wasn't clear that I'm not annoyed with AI. I'm annoyed with the companies that have made their products available on iPhone and not Android, although that will probably happen soon.
Just to clear up some confusion, I have worked in IT for 27 years. I work with AI in my job every day. I subscribe to Claude 3 Opus. I'm an advocate for AI adoption, with particular caution. Not because I think AI is dangerous, but because people use technology to do harm and we should think carefully about its implementation.
Cheers! 😁
So much r & d taxation falls on these models & tech. I mean in the entire transitor age and before .
The ability to grant Americans access to become owner's and operaters of skills and trade or sub contract themselves out as such is at a critical extreme levels of need.
Idk how usa can do this as is status qoue. Even our allys undermine our ability to become kings of our own castles master of our own domain to sense the universe in all its glory. This wasnt just a slogan .
Accessible simulation power for private scientist to manipulate molecular structures cant just be kept under lock n key forever and it cant be given out to the world .
Millions of American native family Self-sacrifice has ran to deep to long .
Chatgpt5 wen?
November
December @@user-ty9ho4ct4k
Definitely before GTA6
3:30 oh no my ai phone is going to start nagging like a woman..
Not all can use cloude3
Well they gotta try to present they are taking precautions based on former mishaps delayz and being in news not so positively gotta if wanna remain world leading dominate and convince and sign big collabs have right companies behind them before release to public sell selves makes sense
I won't be impressed till AGI.
@@anta-zj3bw dude. Natural language computer interface with significant agentic capabilities will be amazing.
OpenAI if you're reading this, give me access to the voice update. Thanks Ai overlords
What's up Wes let me get a comment. I'm your #1 fan, this is Stan.
You killed your wife and kids on the freeway
@@efraimmukendi7137I remember that. Horrible.
Remember nwa? Mom’s spaghetti?