What Vaping Did
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- We're repeating the mistakes of the war on drugs.
----------------
reason.com/vid...
----------------
The war on drugs is winding down, and the war on tobacco is ramping up. E-cigarettes, a safer nicotine-delivery alternative, have contributed to plummeting use of traditional cigarette smoking. Yet the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has effectively made it harder for cigarette smokers to switch by limiting vapes from the market. The agency also recently announced a ban on menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars, which will push more products onto the black market, with all sorts of unintended consequences.
"As tobacco, e-cigarettes, and e-liquids transition from legal to illicit, law enforcement agencies will more aggressively interfere with production, distribution, retail sales, and in some cases even individual use," wrote Jacob Grier, author of The Rediscovery of Tobacco: Smoking, Vaping, and the Creative Destruction of the Cigarette, in a recent issue of Reason. And there's no way to know how far police will go when black market purveyors inadvertently break the law by selling banned smoking products.
There's overwhelming evidence that vaping is safer than smoking regular cigarettes, and that policymakers should be making it easier for Americans to switch. "Vaping isn't completely risk-free but is far less harmful than smoking tobacco," according to the British Royal College of Physicians.
"Laboratory tests of e-cigarette ingredients, in vitro toxicological tests, and short-term human studies suggest that e-cigarettes are likely to be far less harmful than combustible tobacco cigarettes," according to the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.
"We are in this kind of collective hysterical mindset that really resembles what happened with the war on drugs, back in the late eighties and nineties," says Ethan Nadelmann, the founder and former director of the Drug Policy Alliance and a central figure in the unwinding of America's longest war.
By banning options that smokers overwhelmingly prefer, and leaving the traditional cigarette untouched, the FDA is repeating the mistakes of the drug war, says Nadelmann.
"Every society needs a boogeyman."
Photo Credit: Ingram Publishing/Newscom
Music Credits: "Darkness - Light - Darkness" by SAINT-SAMUEL via Artlist; "Float" by Notize via Artlist; "This Will Be the End" by Shahead Mostafafar via Artlist; "Future City" by Maik Thomas via Artlist; "The Cat and the Panther" by The Original Orchestra feat. Ian Post via Artlist; "Toronto" by Anton Vlasov via Artlist; "Bad News" by Nick Kelly via Artlist; "Beyond" by Stanley Gurvich via Artlist; "Scavenger" by Notize via Artlist; "Apparation" by Stanley Gurvich via Artlist; "A Tender Heart" by The David Roy Collective via Artlist;"Intrepid" by Brianna Tam via Artlist
Written and narrated by Natalie Dowzicky; edited by Danielle Thompson.
![FendiDa Rappa - Clock Dat ft. Shamar Marco [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3NBU8KHdxYY/mqdefault.jpg)
I will never understand why the response to children doing something they are not legally allowed to do is that it must be banned for adults as well.
It's because it's easier to put a bandaid on a broken leg than to actually fix the issue.
Worst part is, once it’s illegal it will go black market. The people that already use it and the people that want to try will be forced to use black market unsafe products.
Adults aren’t able to make rational decisions about smoking when addicted to tobacco
@@bogit4695 Adults frequently don't make rational decisions when their horny either. So outlaw all sex, I guess.
Get it on prescription, it’s as easy as that. It should not be in general sale
Want to make a problem vastly worse? Let the government “solve” it!
EXACTLY WHY COMMUNISM OR A NEW WORLD TOTALITARIAN ORDER WILL NEVER WORK! GOVERNMENT WILL FAIL 99.9% OF THE TIME AND THE FREEDOM AMERICA HAS PROVES TIME AND TIME AGAIN GOVERNMENT FAILS AND WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT WE THE PEOPLE WANT AND SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE FAILURES OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNISM.
Well said. Politicians have always pretended that they understand things way better then they actually do. And when they eventually pass dumb laws and end up making the problem way worse ( or even creating new problems); they usually double down by saying their new law would have worked if we’d just throw more taxpayer money at it.
Believe it or not the US has far less food and drug regulations compared to other countries. Only in the US and New Zealand are pharmaceutical companies allowed to market directly to consumers. The FDA also has very lax rules about claims you’re allowed to make about health products. That’s why you see so many snake oil products claiming to cure everything. As a contrast, in Canada if you make a false claim about the effects of a health supplement that is false, the consumer is entitled to a refund. As a result, many of those products are not available in Canada. This is an example of regulation working in the favour of consumers.
Or the free market. They'll make sure too "fix it" in whatever way makes them money. Cough, electric cars
We are the govt,,,,,we are here to help ,,,I’ve heard that somewhere before
I quit cigarettes by vaping.
IT WORKS.
I eventually even quit vaping.
Best secession tool ever.
Struggling to quit vaping just because of the habit. Its not even the nicotine at this point as I went to 0mg 2 weeks ago lol
@@TheWeakMinded Give it time. That hand-to-mouth habit can be hard to break. 3 yrs for me. I vaped for months. Now the only thing I inhale is a jar of Vicks vapor rub.
@@debbiemohekey1509 Try a little 420 as it does not impair the cardio and helps with age-related disabilities.
@@TheWeakMinded ever try dry vaping? Carry it around and go through the motions kind of like a placebo effect to eventually get rid of the oral fixation habit?
While that may be true in high school I personally knew many people who would have never touched a cigarette due to stigma. But when it came to vapes especially juul for some reason they were chill with it. Maybe cuz the messaging that Vaping is healthier idk. But they started vaping. And then they vaped more. And eventually, they weren't hitting like they used to and now they moved on to cigs. I personally am in favor legalization of all drugs so I am against banning vapes or cigs but it is not black and white.
As someone who hates smoking, it pains me to defend this. But people need to have their rights.
As a smoker, I agree with you. I know the risk, but I enjoy smoking. Why does the Govt try to take away everything enjoyable?
As someone who vapes, thank you for tolerating and willing to defend the rights of people like me.
Agreed - I hate smoking myself but have to admit that people have their individual freedoms as long as they aren't hurting others with second hand smoke and that vaping is scientifically (at least as of now) safer than smoking. This video makes an excellent point too that banning or restricting access takes it underground where quality control doesn't exist.
Vaping is nothing compared to the horrible smell of cigs. You should be all on board to stop gov't destruction of vaping rights.
Is that a right to smoke in public buildings, churches, schools, restaurants, bars, in enclosed spaces with non-smokers? Where do your rights end and mine (non smoker) begin?
I had a couple of buddies who stopped smoking and start using vapes. When the FDA shut down their favorite vape manufacturer, they went right back to smoking.
Your friends need to work on their will power, that's pretty weak of them.
Government is social justice, poll whore legislating thru virtue signaling.
@@DarraghM1 what harm does vaping do? Still haven’t felt any almost 10 years now
@@doberton I'm unqualified to answer that question, but I can promise you there is even less harm in straight up quitting. It's not fun being a slave to something you're addicted to.
Facts !!
Wish they had vaping back when one of my friends was a chain smoker he is now dead from cancer
It wouldn't have changed that. He would have had to stop drinking and going out in the sun too, amongst pretty much everything else humans do.
E cigarettes have been around for decades they just were never embraced before.
He could have just quit you know, especially after the diagnosis. Don't blame the lack of vapes, blame your friends horrendous lack of will power.
Quitting is hard but it gets easier every day that passes and is absolutely worth it in the long run.
Lol
@@DarraghM1 I never smoked but in Europe to smoke hash they roll it in tobacco so I can understand the addiction to routine even without a need for nicotine. I'm 67 and a pack every two weeks should not kill me. I'm on SSDI and take Tramadol every 12 hours so being pain-free for an hour or two is worth it. I worked for an American airline that maimed me for life in order to fire me 4 weeks before retirement. I can prevent the accident that maimed me but neither my union nor the airline will accept MRIs as real and orthopedic rehab is denied legitimacy in favor of faith healing. ABA in Chicago agrees with killing employees to save money and refuses to handle a whistle-blower case. ABA will disbar any attorney that shrinks their potential client pool by preventing death or disability even though it is easily done.
I was a 2-3 pack a day smoker 5 years ago. I tried multiple times to quit and vaping was the only successful way for me. Just over 2 years ago I switched to non-nicotine liquids, and currently I haven't used my mod in over 2 months.
Government will NEVER ban cigarettes outright because they RELY on the TAXES collected from addicted citizens. It's not about health, it's about revenue.
Revenue and eugenics
Chain smoked for many years then swapped to vape, soon 0 nicotine. I needed that hand-to-mouth thing and to inhale something. Its been 3 yrs this month since I've quit vaping. Never thought I'd do it. Government only care about revenue. They don't care if we all smoke ourselves to death and the taxes on cigarettes will easily cover hospital|health bills.
Why are you still vaping non-nicotine vapes?
Cigarettes also paid for early radio, and television
@@lukeet331 He just said he hasn't vaped in 2 months now. He vaped non nicotine because you get just as addicted to the routine and habit of smoking as you do the nicotine. Once his body got used to no nicotine he was able to break the habit and he said he hasn't vaped in 2 months.
It was never about saving lives, it has always been about control.
yup
As is ethics and morality. We want to control people towards a positive outcome, of course. Or at least keep them from infringing upon others. That certainly requires some level of "control". We've seen what people do when left to their own devices.
Don't forget about the money
Its always been About money with them Really.. Because what they should ban first is cigarettes and alcohol if they think vaping is harmful. They just want to control EVERYTHING!!!
@@hotmessmissy They don't wanna control tobacco or alcohol apparently ...
I can only comment on my personal experience. I was a very heavy smoker and could not quit. Had a medical procedure planned and was told straight that I had to entirely quit smoking for a month prior, until three months after, or statistically it was most likely to fail. So I grabbed a vape kit. It ended up like swapping brands. It was one of the best things I ever did.
Vaping might have long term unknown effects, but smoking is guaranteed not only to kill you in the long term, but its horrible in the short term. It wrecks your lungs, makes you and everything you own stink, and it even clogs up your PC internally with gack. Vaping is cheap, its smells nice, its better for your dental hygiene, its not antisocial, and I feel so much healthier. I have never looked back. Its also a way to stop smoking "without quitting".
Not gonna lie though, the anti-smoking lobby at no point was helpful. The more people harassed me about being a smoker, the more I didn't want to "join the non-smoking club". Preachy assholes are not helping smokers quit. Vaping is.
My husband has said the same thing for years. One of his brothers has been giving him a hard time about smoking for decades, and demanding he quit. I had to pull him aside and tell him that it wasn't helping my husband, and made him want to keep smoking more just to spite him.
Guaranteed to kill you? I had an aunt that was 94 when she died and smoked since she was 12, so everyone is different. Yes, smoking isn't the picture of health but it wasn't until big tobacco started filling cigarettes with chemical additives that you started seeing people getting cancer. Do you not realize that people have smoked tobacco for thousands of years? I'll stick with that. Keep your weirdo concoction, which, by the way, is way harder to quit than cigarettes just based on the high levels of nicotine you are subjected to.I'm sure the side effects will be terrible later on in life.
Thank you for your testimony!
I don’t smoke, but I def stand up for smoker’s rights! Preachy A-holes never actually help
Insead you just trade one nicotine product for another and K bet the same company's own both!! Anything you put into your lungs that aren't supposed to be in them is bad for them!!!! If you can say you can't breath means you can breath as you can't talk if you can't breath!!!! !!
And that's why they hate it
Going on 35 and can't even order a piece of milled out stainless steel. Can't even buy an RDA (rebuildable dripper atomizer) for vaping in Maine because the coffin dodgers in the senate, house and FDA have classified them as "tobacco products". Can't order nicotine to make my own juice. Can't even buy wire to make my own coils. I have been vaping for nearly 12 years, never been healthier or more mentally well. Yet these excuses for humans do everything they can to make my life and millions upon millions of others lives as difficult as possible to not smoke cigarette's.
No they do not do anything to stop people from smoking. Then they wouldn't make all that money they get from big tobacco companies. Last "action" my mentally ill "representatives" here took to "protect youth from vaping" was to RAISE TAXES by 30%. Oh yeah, that worked out SO WELL! I'm sure all the youth who were going to smoke or vape, that'll stop em! Bet it did, mmhmm.
This whole thing disgusts me beyond all words. There is no reason or logic behind it. The ACTUAL, REAL science spits in their face of their narrative. We DO know the long term effects, I AM a part of the long term effects. And the only negative to come out of it is that I am pissed off that these clueless, money grubbing, fake virtue signaling boomers want to take away everything that people enjoy!
These people make me sick. These people have blood on their hands and their hubris is only going to make things worse. Somebody needs to hold them accountable for their shadow partnership with big tobacco companies that pay and bribe senators, politicians, fed workers etc. Everyone they can, in order to make sure that their death industry survives while alternatives of harm reduction are drowned in a sea of hypocrisy and lies by these soul sucking, moral degenerates.
But hey you can always buy a ciggy am I right? Fuck these people. We all know they're doing this to push people back into smoking where they can make more money off tax. In our country they banned all flavor products only allowing "tobacco flavored juice" and honestly that's about as transparent as it gets.
They're doing this because big tobacco is slowly losing out and they're losing money, because they know that in the future when these kids and young adults grow up they won't be smoking they're gonna be vaping and that puts the future of big tobacco at risk.
Vaping needs to prove itself. After like 80 years it’ll be more accepted. Once everyone is certain there’s no crazy surprise long term effects.
Yup, just like kratom helped people get off of heroin and opiodes, cant have that, so they banned it, land of the free
Hey, you can still get some stuff, china made but that might not be what you’re looking for
As a drummer, I can tell a massive difference in my energy levels and stamina while playing between back when I smoked cigarettes and now while I vape. I can play way longer now and feel way better. Obviously vaping is more dangerous than not vaping, but it’s definitely better than cigarettes.
smoke damages the lungs more, vape damages the heart more. look into olive oil for heart health.
Another drummer here. Smoking definitely defreases my energy levels and i never even realized it. I'm only a social smoker and smoke at bar's with friends who are heavy smokers. But when i do smoke, i feel like i just drag myself around for a few days compared to hitting my vape and getting on with my day. Vaping is not safe, but it's a hell of a lot more safe than cigarettes
Another drummer here. Can't agree more, my stamina improved drastically.
@@CharleyBlumer17 Vaping is pretty safe - just don't use any Vit E (acetate) or other things.= that harm you. Just the few ingredients most juices have. And I get ZERO nicotine. I never coughed or had any issues quitting cigs.
@@CharleyBlumer17 In Europe hash is rolled in tobacco so to get high you get used to tobacco about a pack every 10 days.
I smoked for 40 years, my parents both smoked so I grew up in a smokers house, it was also socially acceptable to smoke when I was young and everybody did it. I always knew I was going to be a smoker when I was a child and I enjoyed candy cigarettes. I started smoking at the age of 15 and was hooked. For years I tried to quit, I tried everything. In 2017 my house caught on fire, not from me smoking, but after the fire I was so traumatized that I couldn’t stand the smell of smoke anymore. I had to be moved into a hotel for a year while they rebuilt my house. The hotel was non smoking so I smoked outside but really wanted to quit. One night I fell asleep while watching tv , I woke up in the middle of the night and there was a commercial playing about the Q vapor system, I thought if I could get that device I would be able to quit. I ordered the kit that night and it came in three days. I knew I loved it right from the beginning and I threw away my cigarettes and never picked one up again. I graduated from that kit which was a cartridge system to a vape mod that you used vape juice in. Finally there was the sensation of blowing smoke but no bad smell, no burning holes in my clothes or stained teeth and fingers, no nicotine stained walls, it was a miracle. Prior to vaping I had asthma and coughed a lot but after switching my asthma cleared up and my doctor said my lungs never sounded better. I told him that I switched to vaping and he was pleased with that decision and said the American Heart Association just published that vaping was far less harmful than cigarettes. I only vape at 3% nicotine and sometimes I vape at 0% I love the flavors and the lower cost. My big fear is that they are going to make vaping illegal and I will end up smoking cigarettes again. With me it’s an addiction of holding something in my hand and putting it in my mouth and blowing smoke. I can go hours and hours without vaping whereas I was a chain smoker before. This has really changed my life and my health and there needs to be studies as to the benefits. They say the flavors are to get kids interested into vaping but I’m sorry adults like flavors too, and they haven’t put any ban on flavored alcohol products which are far more likely to cause serious injury and death to teens due to drunk driving and depression. If there are laws that allow women the right to abort their babies and they say my body my choice, then I think the same thing applies here. I’m an adult and if I want to vape then just leave me alone and let me vape, there’s no second hand smoke killing people there’s just clouds of blueberry pie or cake or fruit and that doesn’t bother anyone. I’m 5 years into vaping now and I even talked my roommate into switching to vaping.
Preach homie
It does bother people around you.
Congrats on quitting smoking.
Laws are written to tell you what you can not do and made by legislation. Roe vs Wade is a court decision, not a law, that told places with laws making abortion illegal (what you can not do) that those laws were unconstitutional.
All laws concerned with what competent adults shouldn't be "allowed" to do to their own bodies violate my body my choice, even if some folks disagree. I own my body. It's mine and you have no right to legislate any part of it. Full stop. Same goes for yours.
@@linus347 The implication of your statement is that they vape with disregard to the comfort of others, either that others have asked them to not vape or that others are too intimidated to ask. I'm sorry there's someone in your life that doesn't care about you, but it's bold to assume that this person is similar.
@@linus347 So does perfumes, and not turning off someones brights when passing other cars. Bothering someone does not justify trying to force someone to stop doing it. A crying baby bothers people too. But do we not try to tolerate each other in life? Is that not the whole purpose of family and marriage? To tolerate, understand and love one another?
What happened was that the big tobacco settlement allowed for states to add a “sin” tax to tobacco products that went directly to state and local coffers. The sale of e cigs cut so deeply in to the take of tax revenue that of course a smear campaign was necessary to allow govt to regulate and quell the sale of e cig products. And that’s why this is happening.
Word!
Follow the money!
If you thought you were going to dodge taxes by packaging drugs differently or changing the way they're dispensed, you thought wrong.
@@robm6510 ummm…I guess you’re just saying what you want to say whether or not it has anything to do with my comment.
@@caseybrown4360 Actually Casey, Rob's comment supports yours 100%.
The war on vapes is also a financial decision for many states. Vaping has reduced cigarette sales and has caused their income from tobacco companies to drop tremendously. This has meant that money they have budgeted for years in the future isn't coming as they expected. They use the health argument but truly couldn't care less about public health as long as their coffees keep getting filled.
That's just water under the fridge now
Red state governors denied the Medicaid Expansion under ACA and killed 125,000 Medicaid recipients between 2013 to 2015 that survived in blue states because they were survivable ills and treatable under ACA expansion at 10% of the premium increase with 90% picked up by feds. DeSantis bragged about reducing entitlement outlays as 666,000 FICA recipients culled themselves by denying vaccines as tucker told them to and saved tucker from FICA tax hike.
Exactly, cigarette is way worst but they don't care about that, they only care about their money builded on poeple dying
True.
Bingo
It's always the people who don't do something that are against something.
People, who never vaped and never smoked, pushed, and push hard, to restrict and ban Vaping.
I smoked for 20 years and tried to quit so many times. I saw how it was effecting me ( sleep wise, appetite wise ) and tried to go cold turkey and just couldn't.
Then I tried an e-cig at the gas station years back...and finally was able to get into vaping.
Since vaping, I eat better, gained more weight, actually exercise without issue now and all the problems or issues I felt before from smoking, are literally gone.
I hate hate hate the politicians on this.
5:57
Cuomo banned us NY'ers from purchasing Vaping Juice online, so instead of being able to conveniently buy online ( and costing less for us ) we now have to "find" the store that sells our juice and it costs more.
Another asshole politician was behind something called the PACT ACT ( Brian Schatz, A Democrat no surprise ) which now makes us have to sign off on our deliveries and CHARGES US for it ( extra 7 dollars!!! )
So the money they loose from Big Tobacco, they gain back by forcing us to pay in these other ways... the scumbags.
That's why you can't get any politician who's already in office to ever favor an outright ban on tobacco products, the government makes more money from their sale than the manufacturers and retailers do. Get Congress to apply the taxes on cigarettes to all nicotine containing products and they might even make ads promoting vapes.
Just wait until COPD kicks in
@@anodizervintage9622 How do you figure?
@@anodizervintage9622 probably won't get COPD from vaping. Aresolizing vegetable glycerin, is about 1000000x less harmful than inhaling burning leaves.
It's pretty easy to just buy a glass pipe, put in some sand to distribute the heat some, a little vape juice, and smoke it like dope. Why give them the pleasure of not only watching you hide, but paying them to help you do it?
2 years ago, I would have completely accepted our public health experts' opinions. Now I know that, at best, they're all just noble liars.
Liars are *_NOT_* noble m8. 🖖 👌
@@Graeme_Lastname noble in a sense that they holds higher position in society, not "noble=good moral" you silly.
@@haveyouseenchefplis932 OIC. No probs m8. My dementia is coming along nicely thank you.
🤣 🖖 👌
@@Graeme_Lastname bhahahahah, hey! we all make mistakes, i'm surprised that you take my slightly offensive comments like a champ!
have a good one brother!
@@haveyouseenchefplis932 😃 🖖 👌
They ban smoking while they legalized Marijuana
I got news for ya, half of the vapes you portrayed were not filled with nicotine :D
Hmm...
This is completely inconsequential news.
@@jimlovesgina fucking big words :)-
So, my daughter had epilepsy. One thing we tried was CBD oil. But edible CBD oil was contraindicated with one of her prescription drugs in her liver. So, she had to vape it. Didn't help with her seizures but ended up helping her a lot with her post brain surgery pain. And now it helps my younger daughter with anxiety.
I vaped CBD after I had hand surgery and my doctor and therapists said my hand healed up twice as quickly as they expected it to and it saved me time and money in recovery. I'm glad it helped your daughter.
Doesn't vaping make anxiety worse? I would recommend checking that again.
@@M42-Orion-Nebula vaping nicotine or tobacco would. Not CBD oil
@@M42-Orion-Nebula vaping CBD, not nicotine.
@@M42-Orion-Nebula I don't know about vaping specifically but I do know that nicotine is one of the few drugs that is a stimulant but also calms you, ie. has an anti-anxiety effect. Think of past decades and expectant fathers chain smoking in the waiting room while their wives were in the delivery room. 🤓🍻🚬
Dismantle all of our health bureaucracies. CDC,FDA,NIH.......
I am 60 years old and after 2 heart attacks my cardiologist suggested that I switch to Vaping. It's been 12 years now, I have more energy, more lung capacity, and still get the nicotine that require, as I became addicted at the age of 12.
Holy shit you're ancient
I've never smoked or vaped but I believe in freedom for those that do. You can regulate and tax but banning is too extreme. These people think you can just will stuff out of existence if they ban it. Do you think menthol cigarettes are going to magically go away because you make them illegal? People will make their own or they'll get sold on the black market. Educate people but ultimately let people do what they want. If that means these products are only sold in specialty stores, so be it.
Its a really difficult topic. Im also pro choice here, BUT there is correlation between parents smoking and their kids picking it up. Also teen use leads to adult use. There wont be a one solution fits all.
If people want to smoke, let them smoke. Just don't be offended if I don't want to be around you while you do it lol. I hate cigs and scented vapes, so I'm going to be waaaay over there away from you while you smoke. Yes, vaping is supposed to be much safer than cigs, but I feel people think "much more safe and less harmful" means no harm or risk. We don't know, yet. I can completely understand why cigarette smokers go to vape because it probably can't be any worse for them, but I don't understand picking up vaping if you don't smoke other than as a social habit. Why risk it. I would like vaping to be zoned like cigs are at least. There doesn't need to be sales bans or any stupid stuff like that. We can have a vape section and a non-vape section. I'll be happy with just that.
I have no experience with nicotine (I avoid it cuz it’s so addictive) but I use weed sometimes so I know what prohibition does. It increases risk drastically. And quasi-prohibition, like what they’re trying to do with vaping and like what California has with weed, where it’s so damn expensive, is almost as bad as keeping prohibition in place. On the nicotine side, why are we buddying up with big tobacco again? It’s insane. Politicians are so narrow minded, I hope the younger generations will come in with more knowledge of these things. It seems like Gen Z has a lot in common with hippies 😂 here’s to hoping
I disagree with the regulation and taxing. Regulation is why we are being forbidden these less dangerous options. Taxation does what exactly? Governments charge higher taxes on certain products like gasoline. Property taxes are paid in perpetuity. You have to continue to pay property taxes even if you own the property. That is the biggest scam going. Where else do you see anything like that? Property taxes are adjusted every boom in housing prices but wages stay the same. This effectively keeps lower income households out of the market. Then politicians get elected claiming to help the homeless that they displaced in the first place. Big government and the taxes that come along with it are the bane of our existence.
Yep, no mandates, prohibitions, restrictions, free choice, don't wanna wear a seat belt, anti-vax, use tobacco, alcohol, drugs, or vape, it's one's free choice. But, don't expect others to pay for choices, go through the windshield, or end up sick because of vaping, your on your own.
Horrible things have been done throughout history and are still being done in name of kids .
The Road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The horrors of banning nicotine? What horrible thing could compare to not being able to purchase a smoking device without a small tax associated with it?
We aren't talking about banning a need like food or water or anything here. It's an addictive luxury item targeted at young/poor people.
@@robm6510 I don't give a shit how many teens vape. Their parents want society to raise them instead of bothering to keep an eye on their child. Well, if I want to vape, I should absolutely be able to do it without some dumb shit telling me I can't because they can't control their kid. And no, vape and tobacco products do not target the youth/poor folks. That's an incredibly stupid argument. Is meth marketed towards poor people? No, and yet poor folks are the majority of people using it. Why? Poor people need something extra to take them through their day. It's not fun stressing all the damned time about money and watching all the folks around you struggle. Regarding teens, have you ever been around teens? You tell them no, they want to do it anyway. Teens have been smoking for just as long as adults. They don't care if it tastes like cigarettes or fruit punch. If they can get their paws on it, they're going to do it. Doesnt matter if it's vodka or wine coolers, if they get their paws on it they'll drink it. It's not how it tastes, it's the forbidden fruit aspect to them. My point being, watch your damn kids and leave me the hell alone.
@@robm6510 , let's take something you enjoy, some small pleasure you still have left in an otherwise dull life and decide based off of lies to take it away from you. Who gives a fuck that it's your life and your body and your freedom to live how you want to, right? After all, it isn't a need like food or water...
Call me crazy, but I'm not willing to take advice on protecting kids from the same elites who fuck them. The whole Epstein thing was nothing new... anyone remember the Franklin Affair?
You missed the part where all the the postal services (UPS, USPS, FedEx, etc.) will not deliver anything to do with vaporizers anymore. Not just the liquid, which is technically a tobacco product and would be understandable, but also the vapes themselves and thein replacement parts. I have two vapes and I can't use them anymore because I can't get replacement coils, nor can any of the brick and mortar stores in my area. Now I'm back to slowly giving myself mouth cancer.
Build your own coils on an rda.
@@RobertShane83 The average person is not a maker; they are not going to do this.
I am honestly happy to hear it’s harder, smokers don’t seem to understand the shit ton of people my age getting peddled a nicotine addiction. Half of the people I know my age are addicted, and damn near none of them would have touched a cigarette. When it comes to college tuition we talk about how ridiculous it is to create a problem while calling it a solution, that’s what we are doing with vapes. Instead of an extreme minority smoking half of young people are vaping, that is way worse overall, not to mention the other addictions they get into afterwards.
How about we ban cigarette sales and regulate vapes? That seems a reasonable compromise to me, “new smokers” will vape, smokers will move to vapes since they are cheaper than black market cigs, and fewer kids will vape because we treat them like cigarettes. Sounds like a Win Win to me.
@@mj6463 if you regulate the actual nicotine products (the liquid), the rest of the parts should be about to move without regulation.
@@mj6463 That will never happen.
In 2019, the total revenue collected from tobacco taxes by local and State governments was $19 billion. That number does not include revenue for federal taxes; that amount for 2019 was $12.5 billion. Do you honestly believe that any government would throw away that kind of payout unless they knew for certain they could extract it from somewhere else? Luckily, there is such a way: Increase other taxes - such as sales taxes - that will disproportionately impact the poor.
I'm sorry to say this, but we're stuck.
It's about control. It doesn't matter that smoking is deadly; it matters that a power-mad control freak tells you to not do it and gets their power kick from it.
Yup they want to ban semi automatic guns and even homemade guns but they don’t know that is what a tyrant does.
@@jessesimmons4503 no, they know. They get a dopamine hit through domination. It's basically a fetishist's kink.
Good to see someone that understands what is really going on. :)
Agree. Like forcing us to put a face mask, it's about control and the REAL and Actual science show it doesn't do sht... but the dictator will dictate. Businesses force to comply and their customer have to fight for their protected constitutional right both from government and businesses that enforcing the broken EMERGENCY LAWS that go on forever.
Those follow and comply with the broken law deserve what they get. I support the customer that spit on a manager trying to force them to put on a mask. I know the manager only doing his job, but he is the one doing the force and it is only right that customer take action against the one doing the force. That said it is only right that the druggy fight back the cop that trying to take away his drug. It's such a basic thing, it is mine and you trying to take it mean I will have to fight you for stealing.
Exactly
I'll tell you what it did right quick. it saved my life. 2017 I coughed up blood and had to stop cold turkey on medical advice. Then unfortunately developed anger management issues that persisted and I started vaping (got really bad fam started getting fed up with my tantrums sad time) it's now 5 years later and life is good. Smoking is effing bad vaping is not good but if you are a smoker without options vaping is a an alternative that is way safer than all the crap in a cigarette. I love my vape and am very grateful I have it. If you DON"T smoke yet... please don't my vape is like a crutch for a broken person don't do that to yourself.
The menthol banning really surprised me. I hadn't heard about that till now. There are already laws to stop kids from buying tobacco products so I don't see the need to stop adults from choosing what flavor they want. Just keep not selling it to kids.
On the child vaping issue I think non nicotine liquids and vapes should be a parental choice while nicotine containing ones should be limited to adult purchasers. Don't market them to kids.
This is a BLM thing since they say Menthol's are there to kill off black people. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD AND FULL OFF SHIT!
Exactly because kids get a hold of booze weed and everything else they aren't supposed to. I got a hold of cigarettes in my youth and I was under age I stole them from my dad. They can't just cut adults off because kids are getting a hold of vapes because with that thinking they should just ban everything else too that they get a hold of including booze. Vaping has improved my life and I got my singing voice back.
Menthol bans are an example of white liberal racism.
They literally say it's to protect people of color. Because the racist stereotype is that Black people like them.
Also, the racist belief is that they are too stupid to make good decisions for themselves and must be "helped" by government
thats what everyone in Massachusetts said but they still banned them.
I actually stopped smoking my juul because of not being able to get menthol cartridges on vacation in california. In wisconsin you can get menthol. So after a week in cali smoking weed, I went back home and never picked up my juul again.
I'm losing my 8 year business due to FDA regulations, I've helped thousands quit smoking cigarettes.
I've had many of the older crowd at work try and tell me how much worse my vape is and caution me about popcorn lung and bring up the deaths from tainted weed vapes like they're the same thing. It's astonishing how many people have looked at my vape like it's a weed vape and not a nicotine vape. IT'S A BIG BRASS TUBE!
Welp, that's what propaganda and lies does. They KNEW from the start it was vitamin E acetate which had NOTHING to do with vaping, but they pushed the fear mongering anyway. Hell, if you are buying your products legally NO ONE died from anything; it was only black market products which, guess what? ... are of course the government's fault for trying to ban something in the first place. All of it makes me sick.
Right. I’ve had smokers come at me for vaping, saying how bad it is. Like bro, smoking literally kills people - it doesn’t get any worse than that. Even if vaping did kill people but at a lesser rate than smoking, it’s better. And the way people also can’t differentiate between vaping and smoking, like they’re one and the same, just shows how easily led people can be. Personally, I’m trying to quit vaping. Don’t want to be a slave to an addictive substance anymore. But hell, vaping should not be put in the same bracket as smoking, period.
I think it's funny when u take a puff off a vape and someone walks through it and start coughing, I say man don't u remember the high-school dances with smoke machines? This is the same thing with 3% nic.. lol, it's even better when they take a hit off their weed pipe right before walking through. I hate the stupid news channels and their lies, one think I totally agreed with Trump on was fake news/ not true news.. most people do not take the extra 5 minutes to research the full facts. Crazy. NY sucks for vaping rights...
You guys knocked it out of the park with this one. Great job
In other words the machine is panicking that most ppl are weening off drugs, which leads to mental clarity, less distractions, and questioning what is going on in the world...
Give this man a cheroot!
The healthier we are, the less they're happy about it. Both hate and fear us because we outnumber them 500:1.
@@zeropercent8499 true, but I think that ratio might be closer to 50,000:1 or more.
You still earned a cheroot.
@@Inquisitor6321 thank you. How many Americans are combat effective. Not many...
@@zeropercent8499 good point.
6:24 “collective, hysterical mindset“ oh oops I thought he was talking about Covid …
Haha good one!
With vaping it's easier to not intake cigarettes. Actually vaping helped me quit cigarettes and now I'm getting off the vape.
@david healy cold turkey? The part that gets me is about a week in my body starts to hurt really bad 😔 and that's how I found vaping.
@@d.l.3310 interesting that you said 1 week because that's exactly what I've told people when describing my own experience when giving up smoking cold turkey. Not that my body hurts but that's when the nicotine withdrawals get the worts and challenge you the most. Honestly I probably would've never made it had I not known that it only takes three weeks for your body to fully purge nicotine from your system. So the first week was a breeze, the second was a nightmare and the toughest but once you got that far into the third week it wasn't like I was going to give up then. It's actually way easier than everyone thinks in my opinion, however, it all depends on how you're looking at it, or maybe better said one's desire to quit, as well as one's knowledge of the subject (which I have all the thanks in the world for the book I read that gave me this)
@@aaronkaiser9080 so by the 3rd week your withdrawals went away? Did you ever get bad body pains at all?
@@d.l.3310 Sorry, YT didn't notify me about your reply. And yes, after the 3rd week the withdrawals ceased to exists and no, no physical pain, just the severe feeling of wanting to light up. I quit when I was 30 and am 45 now. I relapsed twice in my early 30's and quit cold turkey again for both. My 1 mistake was not realizing that just one cig was all it took for my body to get hooked back onto nicotine and I was buying a pack within a week from that one cig I bummed. The book I read was Alan Carr's "The easy way to quit smoking" if you're wondering. The guy smoked 100 cigs a day!! Insane.. I recommend it if you are wanting to quit. I haven't smoked in over 10 years and don't ever have the urge. I don't even think about it to be honest and quitting is one of the best decisions I ever made. Hope this helps and good luck!
@@d.l.3310 Yes, they went away and no body pains. Read 'The Easy Way to Stop Smoking' by Allan Carr
As a teenager no, it's a huge problem especially in high schools, I'd say upwards of 70% or so people vape. Those people never smoked before, they aren't transitioning to vapes, they're just buying (through other people) and getting the higher dose of nicotine the further along they do it, to the point where there's more nicotine in their vape then a cigarette. The flavours are just ridiculous too. Normally I'm all for free market but a few things need to be regulated. I believe in a small government that prevents monopolies to allow for fair business and competition and regulations on a select few things. Prohibition no, tougher restrictions so teens can get their hands on it yes. Once you're the legal drinking age sure go for it get popcorn lungs and struggle to walk of stairs in a decade, that's your choice at that point.
Fr the first thing I see when I go to school is a bunch of kids vaping
I've been a chain smoker for a very long time. I stopped a month ago and love vaping!!!
I am a teenager and I strongly disagree. Most of my peers vape, and most of those are addicted. I do not associate with people who would have smoked, these kids never would have taken anything like that, but vaped because of peer pressure. This is not kids who would have smoked choosing to vape instead, this is kids who would not have done any sort of drug who are now addicted to nicotine. That is a problem, we must regulate vapes at least to disallow advertising to teens, and not allow them to sell it as a recreational thing. They are useful as a way to quit smoking, though I disagree with that approach, and that is their only positive. Addictions are not normal, we should not act like we need to proliferate whatever the least harmful addiction is, we need to avoid addiction in the first place.
Regulate yourself, the government is not your father or mommy. The more power you give away the less freedom you have to choose your own destiny. If people smoke that's their problem, not yours and not associating with someone because of that makes you seem like a future liberal snob.
@@ericholdsworth6611 a society is held together by its people and its family units. You cannot legitimately argue that spreading addiction and destroying the lives of the citizens is not of our concern. If half of the population are addicts, the rest suffer the consequences. So no, it is not undue government power, or the loosing of rights, for the government to ban poison, just as it is not a loss of rights for it to be illegal to sell rotten meat at an HEB. Why does the government exist and tax us if not to stop powerful forces from destroying our lives?
Also, you said in the same breath that an addiction is someone’s own fault and that I’m a “future liberal snob” for not associating with addicts. Which is it, does an addiction reflect an irresponsibility and lack of self control in an individual, making them a bad person to consistently be around, or does it mean nothing and you are a snob for not associating with addicts?
@@ericholdsworth6611 Wasn't it obviously illegal for teens to smoke and or drink alcohol? And it wasn't the government that asked for that law to be passed.
Based on your argument it seems peer-pressure needs to be overcome and not the symptoms of peer-pressure
Kid, humans are addiction animals. All you can do is educate them, and help them choose better addictions. Everyone is an addict.
Is time to fight back, I quit smoking by vaping, this war on vape is ridiculous
I smoke, every once in a while, a pipe or a cigar. As it happens, when I was in high school, I was interested in vaping and actually purchased a vape kit and non-nicotinate juice (I was intrigued by the idea of being able to taste flavors in vapor). Did it for about 3 days before becoming bored of it.
Regardless, it seems that the consensus is that vaping is nowhere near as harmful as cigarettes are, and probably even less harmful than pipe or cigar smoking (which is why I do not smoke them more than once per week, at the absolute most).
The whole thing reminds me of the history of Absinthe being banned - the common thought was that it was just greedy wine makers in France and elsewhere that got it banned because Absinthe was taking over their market, but this is only partially true. There was in fact a whole, full-blown moral panic around absinthe. There was even a phrase, Absinthism, was used instead of Alcoholism, when the drinker liked Absinthe. Studies were done, mostly fraudulent, that "proved" that the wormwood in absinthe caused hallucinations and madness (especially in women, according to the studies). They cited the fact that wormwood is in fact a hallucinogen, then exposed subjects to thousands of times higher amounts of wormwood extract than one would ever get in a bottle of absinthe, and report that they saw things. They would then fail to mention that to get the same effect from drinking absinthe, one would die dozens of times over from alcohol poisoning.
This turned into a massive cultural phenomena that got politicians involved, and eventually efforts to ban Absinthe were put into effect, and the stuff was banned (in the US this was in 1912, 1915 in france. At least it is now legal in the US since 2007).
Absinthe is no more dangerous than say, Whiskey or Vodka, but it was banned because people thought it was this evil, mind-altering, addictive stuff, that will kill you, or that it will make your husband go crazy and kill you, or your wife go into mania.
90 years to overturn a bad decision that they could prove immediately.
that really shows how broken government is, and how little it should be involved in everything.
yeah no nicotine no point.
@@jhoughjr1 I saw the point as it is the same market protection by
G eppetto's
O oligarchic
D isemminators on K street, that's G.O.D. on K Street who owns congress.
I’ve become so libertarian that I think all drugs need to be legalized and given very limited regulations. Not just tobacco, ALL DRUGS should be allowed. Making it so that taxes can be collected and people are only able to carry a specific amount of each drugs would be step one. If we want to complain about protecting kids we can create laws where if a house has kids the drugs have to be stored in a state approved safe.
As I'm sitting here with my cigars, vape, and bowl
“Tobacco is a loaded pistol”…..alcohol on the other hand is just fine……
Alcohol in limited amounts is actually fine, maybe even beneficial because it can help clean your urinal tract of bacteria.
@@abyssstrider2547 yes but as you know no one
Gets it right. It’s often too much which leads to liver issues. And other more immediate destructive behavior. It should be ok but often isn’t. Drunks ruin everything.
@@glennvastine4118 True. People without self control ruin everything.
@@abyssstrider2547 and as Cindy Lauper said
“Money changes everything” lol
We tried banning alcohol a 100 years ago, I know it's not the same with tobacco but it's similar enough that I expect a similar outcome.
The outcome being that they were forced underground into speakeasies? That doesn't sound so bad. They're already restricted from most indoor public places so as not to affect nearby people who don't choose to use. I'd say we are already there.
we also "tried" banning cocaine and heroin, but that clearly hasn't worked at all or stopped the users. banning a substance just makes it dangerous, it absolutely doesn't deter users.
@@based_mediumchungus1788 Danger deters usage. Be it that the drug itself is dangerous and can kill the user, if it is dangerous to acquire, dangerous to be around others on, etc. People usually have some sense of self preservation.
You could even factor the dangers of being fined and arrested into that to some degree. (To tax is to kill, right?)
@@robm6510 danger doesn't deter usage at all bruh.
I don't care how dangerous/illegal coke and heroin are I'm still using them when my brain is fully developed and heroin when I'm retired.
if oxycodone was completely legalized there would be zero(except for maybe that one guy who's retired) heroin addicts, we would just have a functioning society where people pop an oxy 30 once every couple of months for recreational value.
@@based_mediumchungus1788 Danger absolutely deters usage, in at least sane individuals who have any kind of survival instinct and a reason to live.
I couldn't help but laugh though when you talk about retirement. What makes you think you'll make it that long?? Lol
I am sick of seeing infringements in this country and rules against my personal rights and choices. Make a comment to the FDA and tell them they have no right regulating this.
They claim it's to to protect the children, but it's only "my body, my choice" when in comes to killing babies.
Hell, get rid of them. The only power the Federal government has is limited to what the constitution gives them and the amendments... NOTHING else. Practically everything the government is today is completely illegal, from the FBI to the FDA. And everything they touch they cause far more harm than good. If we want safety standards for products that can and should be handled by the states, where the people can actually have a chance to influence it. The federal government just does whatever the hell they want at this point even if it's illegal.
I agree. Legalize all drugs. Alchohol and Nicotine and Tabacco are much more dangerous than a lot of banned drugs.
The age to buy tobacco products was raised from 18 to 21 which is just ridiculous...
Write to your representatives to reject this regulation, the ban is insane on so many levels. This is Dry Law again, politicians never learn and they must be reminded.
Politicians do whatever it takes to get elected. The worst politicians change their support on the fly as soon as their voters do. John McCain was one of the most reprehensible. I have no idea what the man believed because he changed so often just to stay elected.
From the age of 9, I smoked all the time. I loved smoking, I loved breathing thicker air. Now I vape. I vape all the time, and it's easy for me to see a difference between the way my lungs, and the rest of my body felt then as a smoker and now as a vaper.
I don't feel like a smoker, anymore. My body doesn't feel like that of a smoker, anymore. While vaping might not be entirely healthy, at least MY BODY feels entirely healthy. That should mean something, as my body never felt healthy as a smoker.
I watched an entire office full of heavy smokers switch over to e-cigs and completely abandon traditional cigarettes. Then get bored with the e cig and give up smoking all together. E cigarettes will probably by responsible for saving so many lives in the next few decades, or at least extending lives that would have ended sooner due to smoking.
When i hear politicians talk about the dangers of vaping etc, i write them down on my list of people to never vote for. Its clear to me that anyone who is against e cigs is in bed with big tobacco and trying to help protect their profits.
Why are these drugs legal but you still need a doctor's permission to experiment with prescription drugs?
I should be able to buy any substance online from overseas and get it delivered without being intercepted by customs.
China will send you anything and i can't say thats a good thing. That means you, your neighbor and that psycho that likes your girlfriend.
I said to my teen son 7 years ago when I saw the ad campaigns kicking-up and his school having people telling them not to e l-vape that it was a campaign and not science (eg. “metal in your lungs..”). I also said don’t do it. I wanted to show him how the world of disinformation worked.
i like this nuance.
If your son is taking a foreign language, universities in Europe offer free college if majoring in their language. A French freshman year could cover the humanities and less marketable skills for free and still qualify for a Quebec link and work postgraduation. He could get the whole degree there and switch majors whenever. Since reagan the propaganda in the USA is deadly. I'm an ex-pat and my kids graduated with no school shootings or debt, in Sweden. Sweden is recruiting pharmacists from Portugal due to a shortfall, so if he wanted t take Swedish he could get a pharmacist's degree in Sweden, for free. Get him a passport and show him what truth is like and the lies he's being fed by the 45th place press freedom monopoly.
Don't forget the history of smoking
Apart from the fact that it was introduced to the natives all over the world from those who invaded their lands
If that wasn't bad enough Doctors got kick backs from prescribing cigarettes for stress purposes.
My father was 9 years old when he was prescribed a pkt a day for his stress levels....
The tax the governments receive from tobacco is outrageous, if we all gave up smoking where would the government recoup their loses and how many jobs and businesses would be lost, from company's with products to help quit smoking...
If you really want the world to stop smoking stop production of tobacco...
Governments are the dealers that keeps the supply going. Why? because they haven't come up with a better idea to line their pockets....
I went from 45 years of two packs a day to vaping and two cans of swedish snus a week. It not only saves me lots of money it also lets me breathe much easier even with the emphysema the cigarettes brought on.
TWO PACKS A DAY!
I will almost always encourage someone not so smoke or do drugs.
I will not support the government in punishing or hunting these people for putting something in their own body.
The state receives a % of cigarettes sales as a condition of the law suit settlement years ago.. they don't get a cut of vaping sales.
Ding! We have a winner !congratulations you can spot a slime ball
It's all about the taxes...more $$ for tobacco than from vaping.
Fun part is when the tobacco companies gave them the deal of money if they don't get sued for killing people they sweetened the deal by giving out a huge amount to states all at once up front.... so they have long spent that money and depend on the same amount coming in to keep afloat.
I remember them trying to ban flavored dip. I remember thinking who the fuck are you helping? Even when I was 14 or 15 dipping, I loved tobacco flavored dip lol.
Cigarette Juice
@@elbowjuice2627 yeah fuck orange juice I start every morning with distilled nicotine juice
I always said if you want to get rid of the things teens smoke then you need to outlaw the cheap shit.
Edit: not that I’m in favor of that either.
@@Fiery154 whatcha mean, like total ban on a product (i.e. nicotine in this case)?
@@Person-ro6uh the reasoning for limiting nicotine (and other intoxicants) has always been to keep it out of the hands of kids. The authorities kids want to try the drugs bc of the “fun flavors.” Kids buy cheap stuff bc they don’t make much money. Kids want the drugs for a variety of reasons, but they will take what they can get, fruit flavor or not. They buy the cheap stuff primarily.
The mammoth smoke plumes from vapers remind me of old steam engines.
People will do anything to defend, and get the drug their friends think is cool. I can't believe there are people out there who think something is ok because it's not as bad as the other thing. Couldn't both be harmful?
REAL, both are bad 😭
If people can drink. I don't get how everyone is freaking out about tobacco. Nicotine is a great neurostimulant. Around the rise of tobacco we had our greatest scientific achievements. We should start looking at the usefulness of such chemical enhancements.
In studies it has been shown to help with neurological pain.
It also helps those with neurological conditions like ADHD and Tourette’s who can’t take medication or don’t care for the side effects.
@@aimeedouglas1584 yep, it helped my brother. My mom used to give him The Patch while he was in HS
I still don't understand why everything thinks booze is ok but weed or vaping isn't. I think the public is more addicted to booze than anything else and some people can't even go a day without having a drink and honestly its hard to find someone who doesn't drink at happy hour. ( I don't drink yuck) the kids are told not to vape while their parents drink a bottle of whine every night! If they want to make vaping illegal than booze should be too.
@@maliceinwonderland00 it is that it is a long standing cultural intoxicant. Alcohol has deep roots across the globe. It has been around for literal millennia. You are right, it does have worse impact on people. If it were a new drug, it would be illegal.
Mainstream media: “everything is an epidemic! reeeeeeee!”
Nobody should do either. However, that's not the government's decision.
Vaping personally did nothing to help me quit smoking. However, starting escitalopram pretty much knocked out my desire for cigarettes permanently.
I briefly relapsed into smoking several times since, but somehow, escitalopram made it really easy to put it down again.
Also, fun fact: Many vegetables contain nicotine. Tomatoes and Eggplants have a particularly high concentration.
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen in my lifetime is,... they raised the age from 18 to 21 to vape and smoke!
You can go defend our country but you're not big enough of a person to vape or smoke🤔???
I agree. They need to raise the minimum age for military service to 21. Military recruiters would have to prowl colleges instead of high-schools and would have a harder time getting people but I am perfectly fine with that.
I agree with keeping consistency in the age limit. Let it be 21 or 18 ... Whichever. You can defend your country well before 18 btw. There are a ton of things that kids do in high school that are the opposite of defending their country.
Has anyone ever read the report from iron mountain? It’s almost certainly a hoax but still had some interesting parts. As it relates to this video, a “liberal, capitalist democracy” such as ours must be in a state of constant war or preparing for war to survive. The absurdity of needing to continue the war on tobacco even after they basically won underscores this point for me.
WIthout a vape, I'd have never... NEVER... been able to give up cigarettes. Well, that's not strictly true, I would have eventually died. And I hear it's significantly less easy to draw on a cigarette when one's bodily functions have ceased. But, that's what it would have taken if not for my vape. Admittedly, I still use it even though it's been a lot of years. I got down to zero nicotine for a while, then bumped back up to 1 mg nic when times got very stressful. But I still call it a win. Because instead of repeating the pattern of my past, where I'd just go back to cigarettes when times get tough, and usually quickly be back at 2 packs per day like when I was an avid smoker, I went with a less drastic alternative.
All in all, vaping has been a godsend for me.
I was at least a pack a day smoker for over 40 years. I quit smoking once, for about two years, made the mistake of smoking on a week long vacation and was hooked again. I started vaping six years ago and have not had one cigarette in those six years. Would it be better if I didn’t vape? Yes, but it is far better for my health than smoking.
Same here. 40 years, over 2 pack by the end. Vaping was the only thing that worked to quit. Haven't smoked for over 8 years now. Still vape rarely, but no nic. Vaping saves lives. Smoking was killing me for sure.
I manage a gas station in Minnesota. The tax on vape pods is 30%. For a pack cigarettes, it's 66¢.
where I live a pack of cigarettes cost almost 20 dollars. I live in Canada so for me vaping is far far cheaper but luckily it isn't prohibited here so I can buy the E juice and the atomizers. I'm sure in the states you have places where things are expensive but hardly 20 dollars for a pack of smokes. People here in Canada need vaping because we can barely afford our food with our cost of living.
@@maliceinwonderland00 I live in Canada as well and vaping will soon be more expensive than cigarettes. The federal gov't has proposed an increased tax on all vaping products. And, if you live in a province which already has additional tax on vaping products, the federal tax will be in ADDITION to any existing tax on vaping products. Couple this with the proposed flavour ban and vape shops will be gone. It's a sad state. Canadian vapers need to use their voices, write their MP's.
They did this in my state as well; this shit isn't about health its about money and protecting profits of the big tobacco companies. Shit makes me sick!
@@janinetimmons5414 Another Canadian here and it really pays to get into DIY especially now, i got into making my own juice about 8 months ago and now i pay roughly $200 every 6 months or so for supplies for my father and i to vape and the nicotine itself is the only part that may be effected by these taxes.
I don't smoke or vape, but its stupid that i can buy ciggies from just about servo or supermarket yet if i want to buy a vape that is WAY safer than cigarettes it is almost impossible, its extremely hypocritical.
Same with alcohol and weed, i don't do either of those but i know people who do and i can definitely say that alcohol is way worse in almost every way
Not that I'm in favor of this at all, but if they truly cared about the kids, all flavored alcohol would be on the ban list too. But mum's the word on that. Does that mean teen drinking and alcohol in general is completely safe and nothing to worry about? Sex crimes related to teen intoxication are non-existent? No kid has ever driven drunk and cause a crash or even death?
Vaping pretty much saved my life. Tobacco flavored vapes are mostly gross. Adults like good vape flavors just like they like white claw, margaritas, and mimosas.
^This. I keep bringing up the comparison to alcohol because it shows how flawed that "argument" is they keep pushing.
As someone who's done both, they both terrible. I smoked for many years, from 18 to 51yrs, and my lungs were in terrible condition. Vaping, while easier on my lungs for a little while, ended up doing the reverse of smoking (which dried them out), by fillings them with liquid. Yeah, I vaped a lot. Vaping may be a lesser evil, but it's still terrible. Kids, I highly recommend you do neither of them and appreciate your lungs. [Edit: I'll add that addiction is based on two things: psychology and physiology. Psychologically we look for something to calm or stimulate us, or dull the emotional pain/issues. Physiologically speaking, and this is something I learned only a few years ago, is that the physical addiction is due to the stuff in your gut; yes, I thought it was my mind and/or body, but once I understood there was stuff in my gut that was calling for the nicotine/THC/sugar/caffeine-that changed everything. I fasted for 7 days, and used Rife frequencies to kill off gut pathogens (bacteria, viruses, yeast, parasites, fungus); I quit vaping first, and in my gut it felt (for about 2 weeks) like I'd lost my best friend, but since I knew it wasn't my own feelings I easily ignored it; soon after that i quit smoking weed, and that was easy. Your body doesn't need these things; know that you are an ecosystem yourself, and your body is teeming with microbiota, and they have their own needs and wants. Also, to repopulate my gut I have been consuming Kefir and other probiotic friendly foods daily, and greatly reduced processed foods, especially those with yeast and sugars, and feel much better for it. Also, daily exercise, walks, Qi Gong practice for my body, and EFT (emotional freedom technique) for my mind, are all very helpful-and this is for all of you trying to quit these nasty habit. All the best!]
True, addicts just swap one drug with another and any addiction, even if it's not bad for your body, is bad. Your body may be good but your brain won't.
@@authentic229.14 exactly.
Any tips for quitting weed because I am trying to do that right now. I already vape but one thing at a time and the weed is my biggest problem because it empty's my bank account. If you have any tips please let me know.
@@maliceinwonderland00 I hear ya. That was my deal too. For me it was a combination of fasting and using EFT (emotional freedom technique) that helped. The mindset is all important. You've got to decide you don't want or need it anymore-period, this being your primary reason; money/cost being secondary. At this point you've decided you're not that person anymore and don't want to be. Fasting helps in allowing gut microbiome die-off, there fore lessening or preferably killing the microbiota causing the need for THC. As I mentioned, a good 7 days fast, or at least a 3 day fast will work wonders. Use EFT to replace old thoughts about weed, and also to release old emotions regarding weed (those old painful feelings and the thoughts that cause them). You need to approach this from the mental-emotional (EFT) and physical (fasting/diet). At the least, this is what helped me quit after many years and failed attempts. Love yourself so much that it has more power over you than anything you are trying to numb or avoid about yourself. All the best on your journey.
@@robh5695 I very much appreciate these tips. Does fasting mean eat nothing for 3 to 7 days or does it mean just eat veggies or what? I never fasted before but I can go a long time without eating if that is what you mean. The rest I understand but the fasting I Never done so how does that work?
Didn't Juul directly advertise to teens?
I was a smoker for 20 years. I smoked a pack a day, and smoked Camels and Djarums. I tried EVERYTHING to quit for the last few years--patches, gum, hypnotherapy, cold-turkey---NOTHING worked.
I started vaping in the fall of 2011, and threw away my last pack of cigarettes 4 days after I got my first ecigs.
I've been vaping for 10 years now, and feel fantastic. I'm 57, I have ZERO health issues, I don't take ANY medications, and my blood oxygen levels, lung capacity, and heart all measure like I'm in my mid-30s, and a non-smoker.
I had surgery to repair a hernia in 2021, and my doctor said my heart, lungs, and overall health was shockingly good for someone my age. He couldn't believe I had been a smoker for 20 years.
This is my personal story, and I know it's "anecdotal". But all I know is that vaping was the ONLY thing that got me off cigarettes, and I'm in FANTASTIC shape for someone my age.
The only reason the FDA is going after vape products is because cigarette sales are plummeting, and the money going to States through the "Master Settlement Agreement" taxes are drying up. They would rather have people buying and smoking cigarettes, than give up their historic slush fund of cigarette money. It's sick, and the people in the FDA who are behind this restriction on vape products should be fired, publicly shamed, and blackballed in the health industry. The UK knows that vaping is a FAR safer alternative, and they support vaping through the NHS. What we're doing here in the US with regards to vaping is a health care travesty, and morally reprehensible...
Congratulations!! 👏👏
When I was a teenager, the only thing available were cigarettes, so we all smoked them. If I was a teenager today, I would vape instead of smoking cigarettes. Its not even in the same realm of harm as smoking tabacco. BTW, all teenagers will end up being adults, which will the longest period of their lifetime. Teenagers are only that for 6 years. When they turn 18, they are adults. Stop putting them a pedestal!!!
Exactly.... this whole "protect the children" nonsense doesn't follow because before vapes it was just cigarettes; it will just go back to cigarettes again like it was. In fact if you ban them, you could just end up creating a larger black market that doesn't care how old you are... meaning it is now even easier for children to get with god knows what in them. Oh and your new dealer probably also has carts with THC he's trying to push on them. Weee! Now the children are less safe, more of them are either smoking or vaping meaning they are less healthy, and you screw over every adult for your trouble.
Me and my friends all were smoking between 16-19 now none of us really smoke anymore we all started vaping around 2019 and I’ve mostly quit entirely now, vaping is a net positive
What happened to "my body, my choice?" I guess it only applies when you want to mur der a baby.
Bruh
If only there was like some entity which, through it's very nature, was always in close proximity to the child and could intervene, inform, and correct if said child went against it's wishes or tried to access products meant for adults before they were ready for them. Damn, it would be like a perfect solution because adults could do what they want and the children would be safe.
Damn it all, if only!
Yummy 😋 Chinese chemicals in my lungs
We're not repeating the mistakes from the war on drugs, these are largely new and different mistakes. There is an entire industry that has developed around being anti-tobacco and it's just shifted to e-cigarettes. Nicotine=big tobacco and big tobacco is bad ergo anything remotely associated with it is bad. The leaders in this new effort are led by so-called "liberals" where places like San Francisco have led the charge banning all e-cigs.
I disagree. War on drug or on whatever industry is government forcing and attacking people from doing what they want/like. Business and industry have product they offer to the people, it's up to the people to willingly purchase it. If they steal the money to do that purchase, stealing is wrong and punish them for doing that. Why punish the business for offering a product people want? Like punish Apple for selling iPhone because too many people want it.
Hardly if any anything is new under the sun. You think it's new because it get a new label.
It's basically the same thing.
There's truth to that however, much like the drug war, the anti-tobacco movement centers their message around protecting the kids. And to a point, that's fair argument because who don't want to protect kids? Problem is that's emotional plea that can can override logic.
Yeah but the recent scare about vaping and BS overreaction was under Trump. Ever since that my local grocery store no longer stocks any kind of vaping or e-cigs. All this bs panic over THC vapes.
We used to call them busy bodies, now we call them liberals. Regulate speech, regulate cigs, regulate everything you do, because we are all to stupid to make up our own minds.
The tobacco settlement was giving states a cut of future tobacco sales. Ending the switch to vaping would like slow to drop in tobacco sales.
Thanks for this. The continuous anti-vape ads in California really make me sick. The government is throwing all their credibility away with kids with this nonsense.
I should specify that I don't vape, and I quit smoking decades ago.
Vaping is how I quit smoking. Its been a few years now and I can breath easy again. It wasn't easy; however without vaping, I likely would still be smoking at least a pack a day. I don't use flavored E-liquid. I don't think that the flavors are properly tested to understand long term effects on an individual bases. Because of the American supreme court allowing politicians to invest in the same companies they are meant to regulate, there is a conflict of interest made where money becomes the driving force of government regulation rather than what is best for the common person. The FDA has become apart of this conflict of interest problem.
Watching this while I hit my vape. Cannot express how much better health wise versus smoking butts.
It's still bad for you. And it's still causing millions of teens who never would have smoked pick up smoking. This is the rub: when I was in highschool, RIGHT before vapes were a thing, barely anyone smoked. Like, maybe one out of 50 kids. So while vapping is a safer alternative, it hasn't just become an alternative for people who would have smoked anyway, it turned into something that kids who NEVER would have smoked cigs have taken up, and that is a huge issue. I love what vapping has done for people tyring to quit, I love how good it is for helping them quit, but my god, people need to stop pretending that smoking wasn't on the downtrend. Because it was. Smoking was becoming uncool. And now it's cool again.
@@cortster12 can’t argue with you there.
This feels like propaganda
Australia banned all nicotine vape juice last year. (Zero nic juice is currently still available)
People used to be able to buy a vape mod for about $50, 120 mls of vape juice for about $20, and 3 coils for about $10.
That might last a regular vaper 3 months.
An actual pack of cigarettes in Australia is now about $50.
It is a horrible scam that reduces harm reduction to increase tax revenue.
I’ve got 500 mls of vape juice sitting in Australian customs for past 2 months. Don’t think I’ll ever see it. Our Govt really sh... me.
Dam Australia is ass
Damn bro a pack of cigarettes in Portugal is 5€
Yahshua - you know Him as Jesus - was born to a virgin, turned water to wine, taught, healed the sick, raised the dead, casted out demons, walked on water, calmed the storm, and fed a crowd of thousands with a few fish and a few loaves of bread, among many other things. He was killed on the cross as payment for the sins of all mankind, three days later He rose from the dead. Forty days later He ascended into heaven where He sits at the right hand of the Father. He is returning very soon, but before He does, Satan, the devil, is coming to pretend to be Jesus/God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4). Satan is an angel, and he will have certain supernatural powers with which to try to fool everyone. He will, for example, be able to make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men. He will only be on earth a short time before the real King of Kings, Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, returns. When the real Jesus comes we will all be transformed into our spiritual bodies at the same moment. Jesus came in the flesh to offer forgiveness of sins and eternal life to anyone who believes and calls on His precious name!
if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10:9
Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her. - Matthew 26:6-13
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
To anoint your self, the sick, or a building for spiritual protection:
Get a small bottle of olive oil and pour off a small amount into a smaller vessel like a vial or baby food jar. Use the rest of the bottle for cooking. Ask the Lord to bless your vial of oil in Jesus name. Anoint yourself with the oil by placing a dab of oil on tip of finger and touch it to your forehead, and ask the Lord to bless you/heal you. Place a dab of oil on your finger and anoint the door posts and order all negativity and evil out of the house, and order that nothing negative or evil can enter into your home including piggybacking on a person entering, order it to be so in the name of Jesus. Anoint all potential entrances to your home. To anoint the sick, place oil on tip of finger and touch it to the head of the sick and say a prayer of healing over them in Jesus name. See James Chapter 5:14-15.
When I was 20 my county changed the age for vapes to 21 but cigarettes stayed at 18, I had to choose to stop smoking cold turkey unexpectedly or switch to analog cigarettes… or just drive to the next county over (about 25 minutes) and buy them there.
as long as vaping is for adults only .. let them put in anything legal that isn't shown to damage peoples health and not the main ingredience (i.e. nicotin is toxic .. but people vape for it so that's ... "ok" .. but again .. for ADULTS ONLY)
That's why I'm so thankful that there are vapers in our Senate. Hope they'll come up with a practical and balanced law.
Most of them are vaping pure bullshit, easy on the lungs but hurts those of us around them.
I hope they'll leave it the hell alone and mind their own business.
I started smoking cigarettes when I was 15, and by 19 I smoked about a pack a day. My friend introduced me to my first vape when I was 19, and immediately I stopped smoking cigarettes. I no longer smell like smoke, I don’t have chest and lung pain, and I don’t have harsh coughs at all. At 22 now, and I don’t even feel the need to ingest nicotine and haven’t vaped or smoked in almost a year. Vaping works, for people who want to QUIT nicotine. If you’re not addicted, there’s no point in getting started, especially underage.
smoker on and off for 30 years, took up vaping for 5 years, now im off both! for me stopping vaping is so much easier than stopping smoking. been off it all for over 5 years. can be used for good.
I smoked for 46 years. I tried everything to quit. The ONLY thing that got me to stop smoking cigarettes was vaping. I started vaping in 2010 and have not had a cigarettes since.
I smoked for off and on for 30 years.
Vaping helped me quit, and I haven't had a cigarette in 4 years. I lost 30 pounds and now run an 8 minute mile at 50 years old
You still vape?
If you don't smoke, don't smoke or vape. If you smoke, I can tell you that I could quit smoking thanks to vaping.
Thank you for calling this out. I've been infuriated by politicians demonizing E cigs.
Less harmful, less satisfying. What can ya do.
I smoke AND vape, that's what.
I work in the vape industry and I've been worried since March when Biden signed into office his new bill for the FDA to regulate liquid nicotine in both synthetic and natural forms.
My school has a major issue with kids vaping many of them are addicted I know of one who has developed lung issues after vaping daily for a few years
As someone who vapes but has only had the accasional cigg, I absolutely would have been a ciggarette smoker if vaping wasn't available
Trust me if you catch your kid vaping dont freak out. The nicotine in this form is only slightly addictive, but nothing compared to cigs. I highly doubt it would result in smoking cigs which are denser and nasty tasting compared to vaping.
Fantastic video, I'm someone who used vaping to get off a pack a day habit nearly 10 years ago now and helped to get many of my family members and friends to switch over to vaping too, with the increase in restrictions several have went back to smoking simply because it's more convenient for them.
At this point it seems like the governments don't care about the kids or peoples health, they just want more money from big tobacco when the logical and safer thing to do would be to restrict cigarette sales and incentivize smokers to vape instead but sadly laws are changed not for the publics benefit but for the benefit of the politicians wallets.
Episode 495384 of "Government is the problem"