UAD Goes Native - Say Hello to UADx Plugins via UA Spark

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @charlesschenk6290
    @charlesschenk6290 2 года назад +3

    Thank you Matt for taking time to compare these UADx plug-ins with the UAD2 plug-ins. UA has done it again, given users better ways to use their tools. I own a boat-load of UAD DSP chips, and plug-ins. At first, when I saw the subscription plug-ins from UA, I was concerned that I and others would also need to buy the subscription. Then I learned that UA-Connect software lets users who have permanent licenses for UAD2 plug-ins, also receive licenses for the native versions to which they already have the permanent UAD2 licenses.
    :-Don (RUclips is now calling me Charles, go figure.)

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Hey Don, thank you! Yeah, you nailed it.

    • @bco0t6
      @bco0t6 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth that determines if they’re made any different and they’re very similar from what I can see, but it doesn’t mean that the DSP versions aren’t providing a specific color toward audio or midi, when I use two Pultecs on a kick drum at the same frequencies the DSP versions just sounds a bit more natural as opposed to the native but this is after listening to audio for 7 years so I’m really particular all our ears are different you know

  • @Vikotnick
    @Vikotnick 2 года назад +3

    I haven't used my DSP plugs for a long, long while. Main reason is that I can't be bothered anymore when there are vst's that are well made. So I took a little hit on quality to go "in the box" but I am sure as hell going back to all my wonderfull UAD plugs as soon as I can.

  • @MattHepworth
    @MattHepworth  2 года назад +7

    Hey all, here's how it works, HOWEVER, UA servers are being hammered with the traffic right now, so some issues will come from that.
    Also, iLok licenses will take probably 48 hours to deposit. The demos will work for you in the meantime though, I believe.
    Download and install UA Connect.
    Clicked on "Redeem My Plugins"
    Link to your iLok account
    Then you should see a message confirming you have plugins associated with your acocunt.
    UA's Server load is probably affecting this right now.

  • @tronam
    @tronam 2 года назад +1

    M1 native UADx is finally released today and also includes the Pultec bundle. About time!

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      Yes. I have a M1 vs Rosetta comparison vid that will be live in a couple hours. The Pultec is a welcome addition!

  • @jwalker99us
    @jwalker99us 2 года назад

    Hi Matt, Didnt realize you were a youtuber! Great walkthrough. See you on the UA Forums.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Thank you! I have lots of ideas in the pipeline and in progress. See you at UADF!

  • @soulinspiration1
    @soulinspiration1 2 года назад

    Great vid!! I'm excited because my friends who don't own UAD plugins/hardware can get a subscriptions and we work together.

  • @mattsynth
    @mattsynth 2 года назад +1

    UAD went by the wast side in our studio after all of us UAD-1 users got burned. Never again, lots of other options out there today.

  • @tronam
    @tronam 2 года назад

    Apparently M1 native support is coming soon, so I'll probably hold off subbing until then, but I'm pretty excited about finally being able to access UA plugins again after (regretfully) letting go of my octo a few years ago.

  • @jamesc4343
    @jamesc4343 3 месяца назад

    toggling would be great because manually switching everything is impractical but I understand it would take a ton of coding (Smashed the button) thanks for the video

  • @karlchestersarabia6741
    @karlchestersarabia6741 2 года назад +1

    it looks good

  • @spacelook9076
    @spacelook9076 2 месяца назад

    I'd say your mind was blown a long time ago.

  • @soulinspiration1
    @soulinspiration1 2 года назад +1

    I can't wait for RUclipsrs to post a review of Waterfall B3!!

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Indeed. I'm not a VI user or I'd post it myself. ;-)

    • @JorgeSilvestrini
      @JorgeSilvestrini 2 года назад

      I'll try and post a comparison to iKMultimedia's which I also own and like!

    • @soulinspiration1
      @soulinspiration1 2 года назад

      @@JorgeSilvestrini Fantastic!!

    • @JorgeSilvestrini
      @JorgeSilvestrini 2 года назад

      @@soulinspiration1 Downloaded - will need to play with it a bit and then record something! Will keep posted.

    • @soulinspiration1
      @soulinspiration1 2 года назад

      @@JorgeSilvestrini I look forward to it.

  • @CalvinTheII
    @CalvinTheII 2 года назад +1

    OMG! 🤯🤯🤯 Finally!

  • @CamariMusic
    @CamariMusic 2 года назад +4

    Great review... I would not buy any of their hardware systems after seeing this. It makes sense to get an Apple Studio and run these plugins

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio 2 года назад

      Right?! I was thinking the same thing about the Mac studio 😂. Still gonna wait on a new computer. I just upgraded my PC last year and my Mac a year before that. Gotta milk the investments.

    • @wildmilne
      @wildmilne 2 года назад +3

      The apollo allows you to track in real time with no latency using compressors/delays/reverbs etc, maybe that's getting close to possible with the Mac Studio, but certainly not my case with my mac mini 2018.

    • @selfexpressionmusic
      @selfexpressionmusic 2 года назад +1

      The whole point of the hardware is so that you can run them in real time you're still not going to be able to do that with the m1 🤷‍♂️

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +2

      @wildmilne and @Self Expression Music - Absolutely true. Reliable low-latency performance is still critical for many of us.

    • @selfexpressionmusic
      @selfexpressionmusic 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth okay I'm just trying to figure it out I'm like is native plugins running live with no latency on the m1 if so I got to go and get me one immediately waiting for the day that native plugins run in real time 🙏💤😂

  • @LetBenTalkforYou
    @LetBenTalkforYou 2 года назад

    What a time to be alive.

  • @rekyhl
    @rekyhl 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for a good review :)

  • @perhoier2881
    @perhoier2881 2 года назад

    Oh yeah. Thanks for the info, Matt. 😀

  • @CreativeMindsAudio
    @CreativeMindsAudio 2 года назад

    Pretty sweet! I have an octo and an Apollo x8p. Maybe now i could sell my octo card! And yes I DO use all that processing. I hit 90% on my UAD cards pretty often. I have switched some to native with plugin alliance plugins (I’m a mega subscriber) which helps a bit, but this would change a LOT. I use the LA2A plugins a lot along with the 1073 and API. The other issue is that i am already almost maxing out my CPU on most sessions (thanks soothe 2). But great to know that this is an option to have. Especially if i can speed up bounces on smaller sessions while still keeping the quality. But honestly seeing how much CPU usage the 1073 takes up makes a lot of sense why they opted for DSP chips over native support in the past. I think I’ll be getting an M2 something Mac soon. I have a 2019 i9 intel MacBook Pro right now.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      Great comments and thoughts!

    • @deepvan9796
      @deepvan9796 Год назад

      As long as you only ever use the Spark plugins. Any other plugins you already purchased from UA are never going to be included in Spark. If they suddenly did that nobody would buy Apollo's anymore and most Apollo owners would sell theirs (for less than a new one). They would lose a tonne of revenue.

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio Год назад +1

      @@deepvan9796 I don’t believe this. Over time more and more of the plugins I already own appear on spark. If they kept making plugins first for Apollo users then gave it to spark members a bit later that would still be a very viable business model. Sadly I haven’t seen them make many new plugins per year as they once did.

    • @deepvan9796
      @deepvan9796 Год назад

      @@CreativeMindsAudio Place your bet. :)

  • @maxiumonthebeat5531
    @maxiumonthebeat5531 2 года назад

    Hi, i don't know how to sync plugins from UAD ARROW to SPARK and autorice, on Ilok app don't appears uad plugins

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      You may have done everything right and you're just waiting for UA's servers to catch up. UA said it should all be resolved by April 4th.

  • @sin_phany_tv
    @sin_phany_tv 2 года назад +1

    I have a question, I’m a blind UAD user and OK so I understand that the plug-ins are finally native for the ones that are out at the moment, but my question is this if I go on the page and do the whole set up do I need to pay a subscription for the plug-ins that I already have or can I skip that version and use the free ones that they are mentioning like the lexicon, or the Neve 1073 everybody’s doing videos but they’re really not explaining that but, it would be pretty cool if someone can answer this for me because I’m hesitant of doing all this because honestly I don’t believe in subscriptions, and my last question is can Mojave users install this or not? All I saw was Monterey, Big Sur and up

    • @sin_phany_tv
      @sin_phany_tv 2 года назад

      Just in case if someone can answer me because reading my comment back it’s a little bit confusing so another words do I need to pay anything to get this running and have access to the plug-ins that they are saying that are free like the lexicon, or the need 1073, because I haven’t bought those licenses so I’m wondering if this would be an advantage just to at least download it so I can have access to those native ones? I do have roughly about 50 plug-ins that I have bought throughout the years, so is auto tune available if I on the license as well?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      I have not tested on Mojave. It will probably work. Sign in and download UA Connect. Log in to it and link your iLok account. Any UAD plugins you own will eventually appear in UA Connect for you. You do not need the subscription.

    • @sin_phany_tv
      @sin_phany_tv 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth thank you so much for getting back to me with that answer, so will I also get for free the lexicon and the 1073 and those other plug-ins or is that with the subscription?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      You only get the UADx plugins (including the 1073 and Lexicon) if you own those plugins on UAD DSP already.

  • @therealdjap
    @therealdjap 2 года назад

    I started to watch your video and after hours of messing around, I realized I should have just watched your video fully. I don't see UADx Plugins in my UA Connect but I do see UAD Spark. I'm sure that will iron itself out. Great job! very detailed video! #therealdjap

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Thank you! I try to get to the nitty gritty whenever possible.

  • @realgearonline8279
    @realgearonline8279 2 года назад +3

    You might have sold me with the bounce times…but even if you have one dsp version, it crawls, right?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Hey there. It's still dependent on how much DSP that particular plugin uses.

  • @lilocapitalT-ix4nz
    @lilocapitalT-ix4nz Год назад

    howww dooo u not haveee theee pulttteccccc rrrr u crazzzzzy

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  Год назад

      It wasn't available when the video was done. Of course I have it now. ;-)

  • @bco0t6
    @bco0t6 2 года назад

    There are slight differences, I have a keen ear and the DSP plug-ins still bring in an almost life like emulation of the hardware but the native plugins I will say are a really close second.

    • @bigdoghat3827
      @bigdoghat3827 2 года назад +4

      If there were slight differences wouldn't we hear those differences during the null test?

  • @chrisjmccord
    @chrisjmccord 2 года назад

    Thank you Matt for your research with this. For someone new to the UA world, your videos are very helpful to me. I'm on the fence about purchasing an Apollo or a Volt now, I have a nice M1 Max MacbookPro the maxed out one and I'm thinking now with these Spark UADx plugins, I don't need the DSP power of the Apollo line, for my smaller recordings. Of course when they finally (or if) start making the plugins M1 native, that will be a big game changer, do you think thats in the works?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Hi Chris, and thank you! I'm positive the M1 native versions of UADx will appear not too far down the road, however, I would only expect about a 5% improvement in performance. Rosetta gets a bad rap. It's INCREDIBLY efficient, though, in reality. Take a peak at the newest of my Studio One M1 videos for a deep look at that. The power of the M1 (and especially the Max like you got) is the processor itself. They're incredibly powerful for audio. Rosetta can still take advantage of about 95% of the M1's potential. As to Volt vs Apollo, I'd say it all comes down to what you need latency-wise for the live input and whether you're more focused on virtual instruments or live input. If your focus is the latter Apollo is worth the consideration for sure. Thanks!

    • @Axeyard
      @Axeyard 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth Take a peak?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      @@Axeyard This one - ruclips.net/video/j0zFg1V2QT4/видео.html

  • @paolovic1
    @paolovic1 2 года назад

    Is it possible to use Uad Spark with plugins in real time?
    I mean, when I speak into the microphone I would like to use the compressor in real time.
    I use Rodecaster Pro as a sound card.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Yes! Check out my vid here - ruclips.net/video/FtWa6WJ7E88/видео.html or this one - ruclips.net/video/r___bSNZ3EE/видео.html

  • @izzywalker471
    @izzywalker471 2 года назад

    If you have a UA DSP card or Satellite though can you use Spark licensed plugins on their DSP though?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      No, but the DSP pligins you own are free in Spark when they become available on the platform.

  • @tmartin6717
    @tmartin6717 2 года назад

    Thanks for the info

  • @Axeyard
    @Axeyard 2 года назад

    Thanks, Matt. So are these UADx plugins for Spark customers only right now?
    How about Apollo/Luna users who already own the DSP version of a plug-in? Will they have to pay to have access to native version if/when it becomes available?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Currently all owned UAD versions means FREE Spark version. We're hoping UA stays with that plan for the forseeable future.

  • @BeatzByBiz
    @BeatzByBiz 2 года назад

    Which M1 computer are you actually using? If you don’t mind me asking.

  • @plutostube
    @plutostube 2 года назад

    if I am owner of an Apollo Twin can I use the plugins I bought for it as native without activating an iLok account? (basically using the Apollo as my dongle). Thanks

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      No. The only the DSP versions work that way.

    • @plutostube
      @plutostube 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth does iLok put a “pressure” on the Cpu of the computer? I know ilok is working in realtime to ading software protection

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      The extra CPU load is nearly immeasurable, but it'll add a slight delay on loading/launching the DAW as it checks authorization, in my experience. You don't need the hardware iLok version, which is appreciated by many users. Thanks!

    • @plutostube
      @plutostube 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth great, thanks so much for your replies 🙏

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      Happy to help!

  • @armandodiaz3485
    @armandodiaz3485 2 года назад

    Hey Matt! I own the two Friedman UAD-2 plugins(BE-100 & DS-40) which I’ve run off an Octo PCIe in Pro Tools. I see Brainworx also sells native AAX versions of these same plug-ins. Now I wonder will UA/Brainworx offer native UAX versions of these also? And if so, which will run more efficiently on say the Mac M1s? See where I’m going with this??….

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +2

      I doubt they'll port to UADx since native versions already exist and, I believe, UADx will be limited to plugins coded by UA originally. That said, the Plugin-Alliance/Brainworx native versions are identical to the UAD versions in sound, so I'd consider them to be roughly equivalent to UADx in this case.

    • @deepvan9796
      @deepvan9796 Год назад

      The Plugin-Alliance/Brainworx is the best way to go now. My M1-PRO (10-Core) outperforms my Apollo Quad-Core by leaps and bounds and most of the UA versions of those same plugins are never going to be made available in Spark which means if you invest in them you'll be stuck using them with a poor performing DSP unit attached to your computer at all times. I've already re-purchased most of my UA versions over at Plugin Alliance as I got tired of waiting for them to come to Spark. I'm now loving not needing my Apollo all the time or a non-stop internet connection for Spark. Plugin Alliance = identical plugins with better performance, more freedom, and for much less $.

  • @aubreymcgee8230
    @aubreymcgee8230 2 года назад

    I would appreciate if UA would create an auto switch between UAD UADX

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      From the feedback I've seen there are more like us than than I'd expected.

  • @alongonen934
    @alongonen934 2 года назад

    Any advantage using Apollo interface (vs. eg RME) when using unison plugins?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      @Alon Gonen Yes, the Unison aspect (hardware portion, anyway) is only supported with Apollos. That's what adjusts the impedance of the actual hardware to match the device its modeling. Apollo is also, typically, a lower latency experience by using Console vs tracking through the DAW (assuming plugins are being used in both instances).

  • @selfexpressionmusic
    @selfexpressionmusic 2 года назад

    Maybe you can answer my question I mean no disrespect what is the big deal with the m1 you still can't run the plugins in real time live how is it any different than just having a really good computer? I understand the native thing though I don't agree that it's very exciting because I already owned the copies of the plugins in native form that uad copied.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      M1 is no different than just having a really good computer. Dollar for dollar M1's performance for audio and video is unmatched, though.

  • @petercarolane
    @petercarolane 2 года назад

    By doing this is UA admitting that their chips are archaic compared to simply using native CPU?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      I don't see it that way. Basically, an M1 is 3-4 times as powerful as a QUAD (2-3 times as powerful as a rack Apollo X). That's still substantial performance from the DSPs and they still have a place in heavy projects.

  • @bryancarrascotarco5232
    @bryancarrascotarco5232 2 года назад

    24x 1073 thats a dream

  • @Drfresh1402
    @Drfresh1402 2 года назад

    Why is it not detecting my plugins?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      If I have to guess I'd say it's still being affected by UA's server load/demand.

  • @kingyasofficial
    @kingyasofficial 2 года назад +1

    mine keep saying refresh on the ua connect app

    • @StopchangingMyHandlePunk
      @StopchangingMyHandlePunk 2 года назад +1

      sucks on my side it keeps on refreshing no plugins are showing up...I don't wanna subscribe lol i wanna use the one I own natively

    • @kingyasofficial
      @kingyasofficial 2 года назад

      @@StopchangingMyHandlePunk lol exactly, even after the free trial the plugins still dont pop up

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, this is probably the UA servers just getting hammered...

    • @kingyasofficial
      @kingyasofficial 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth yea its working now

    • @kingyasofficial
      @kingyasofficial 2 года назад

      @@roccofloresoneto mine just started working

  • @telogic1
    @telogic1 2 года назад

    Matt do I need to subscribe to use my paid for plugins as I am not seeing any plugins in my connect

    • @ChentheInfj
      @ChentheInfj 2 года назад +1

      Nope, if you own it, you can download ua connect and use the plugins you own for free. 😀

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      UA has posted a support article that all these issues should be ironed out by April 4th.

  • @Screaming-Trees
    @Screaming-Trees 2 года назад

    Very strange decision. To release these on what is basically an EOL platform (Intel Macs). Also that's the M1 performance via Rosetta. There will be a big bump in performance once UAD supply a native binary.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      I was surprised to see it wasn't M1 Native, but Rosetta gets an undesrved bad wrap. UA estimates about 10% improvement with M1 Native. That seems optimistic to me, since I've done extensive testing of M1 Native vs Rosetta performance and found Rosetta to be really close.

    • @Screaming-Trees
      @Screaming-Trees 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth We'll see I guess. Although U-he guys saw immense gains going from Rosetta to ARM. That said, synths like Diva did have a bunch of optimizations that were honed on x86 over a long period of time (its own multicore routines for example which is an intricate thing to do) and this might have been too much for Rosetta. UAD likely doesn't have anything that comes close to the kind of CPU utilization of Diva though so it probably doesn't matter as much anyway. There will be a performance impact though and of course it will enable people to run their DAWs natively rather via Rosetta etc etc. Cool video though. Thanks.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      @@Screaming-Trees Would be cool if it ends up they were able to hyper-optimize!

  • @joeydego2
    @joeydego2 2 года назад

    I came. I smashed.

  • @AudiMok
    @AudiMok 2 года назад

    great topic but your videos could really benefit from tighter editing.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      @Audi Mok Thanks for the comment. I cut it down from 68 minutes to under 14, but I'm still trying to get DaVinci Resolve down (and improve editing).

  • @andyfeldman2590
    @andyfeldman2590 2 года назад

    So is UA going to continue to support UAD-2 plugins and still sell their Octo PCIe cards? Im at a point where Im upgrading my studio from an old 5,1 Cheesegrater. I have an Octo and a Quad PCIe card. To upgrade I was going to buy a $700 Sonnet PCIe to Thunderbolt enclosure and put my UAD cards in there, then use them with my new MacStudio that's coming. Is it foolish to put more money into my system just so I can keep my UAD-2 cards running? I've never been a big subscription fan, but financially I can't see investing more. And forget about my studio upgrade. What if I was already on a nice Thunderbolt-equipped computer. Say a new plugin that I'd like is released. These have been costing hundreds. Would it make sense to buy a new UAD-2 plugin rather than just deal with a subscription? What to do...?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      I need to give this some consideration with a rested brain before giving my verdict.

  • @diyalame5366
    @diyalame5366 2 года назад +1

    Sell me your cheap UAD-2 SATELLITE THUNDERBOLT 3 :)

  • @Oscar-kx2du
    @Oscar-kx2du 2 года назад

    Man, the new GUI in 1176 and LA-2A sucks...

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      They were changed a few UAD versions back. I kinda like the older ones, too.

  • @MurdaMetz
    @MurdaMetz 2 года назад

    Who rents plug ins ? For real I’m happy using stock plug ins . Uad with another money grabber .

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      They're free for existing users that own the regular UAD versions, which I think is pretty awesome.

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      I'm not keen on rental either.

    • @MurdaMetz
      @MurdaMetz 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth maybe I’m just a little salty since my ox won’t connect via wifi , even though I meet all
      The network and system requirements . How about uad take care of their existing customers instead of trying to get money from new ones ?

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад +1

      Understandable. Support figure anything out?

    • @MurdaMetz
      @MurdaMetz 2 года назад

      @@MattHepworth I’d sure hope so after all the money people invested in the dsp , like me .

  • @JuanJacinto
    @JuanJacinto 2 года назад

    Disadvantage: You can't own them. 👎🏻

    • @MattHepworth
      @MattHepworth  2 года назад

      Mostly true. You get them free if you own the UAD DSP versions or LUNA extensions, but if you don't, they're only available as part of the subscription.

  • @CalvinTheII
    @CalvinTheII 2 года назад

    OMG! 🤯🤯🤯 Finally!