You have your timeline mixed up. The Knights of Labor became the foundations of the SPUSA & IWW. Both organizations were effectively destroyed during the first Red Scare. The SPUSA & IWW survived in name only but the majority of members & leading organizers founded the CPUSA then later the SWP & CIO. You made it seem like they were competing organizations. But the CPUSA emerged as the result of the SPUSA & IWW’s demise.
He also implied that the IWW was founded in 1905 with Communists in its ranks. The CPUSA wasn't founded until 1919 (and the old term "Communist" was only revived by the Russians in 1918). Some IWW members then joined it, but they had to leave the IWW to do so (which was, in any case very much in decline by that stage).
I think something that's kind of skipped over even in this documentary is how by the early 1900s most Americans were either self employed or worked in very small businesses. the centuries of feudalism in Europe must have had an effect on the labor movement there versus here where we had a very strong independent and individualist streaks since our founding as a nation.
And it wasn't just sentiment either, its most basic laws and even patterns of property ownership really do (and have) made it a much more individualist society
'.... by the early 1900s most Americans were either self employed or worked in very small businesses.' And that was true until about 15 years ago in the USA. Small business employed a bit more than 50% of the workforce in 2007. Today's it's about 47%. But how many is small, medium, and large? The US Small Business Administration states a small business is 500 or fewer employees in most sectors and up to 1500 employees in others sectors, such as mining and manufacturing. But other aspects matter too. For example, ownership and revenue. Small and medium-sized businesses (SMB) are most often privately held. (There are a few large businesses that are private as well, for example Bechtel and Mars.) Government (local, state, and federal) employs 15% of the workforce. Medium and large business employ the remainder. By percent, SMB are more than 99% of businesses in the US. Numerically, about 21k businesses are large. There are more than 32 million businesses in the US. The overwhelming majority are 1 to 4 employees.
It's such a shame that politically minded people with their own agendas got involved with these events, most people just wanted a slightly better life and not to bring down a government. There is nothing wrong with opposing a corrupt boss or company that pays you in scrip, forces you to buy things in a company store, and is happy for you to work yourself to death as they believe it's easier and cheaper to just employ a new person instead of spending a little cash and say add some safety guards.
Yeah there is. All that pissing and moaning lead to our jobs being out-sourced to people who don't ask for that stuff. Also, REAL rights are never based on money.... i.e. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc are not about money.
Isn’t trade unions in and of it self political? Like if you become involved in that stuff, you have to be politically minded. One of the big ones I think of is Eugene v. Debs, and he was a straight up socialist.
@@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034 They often go that way I guess but they don't have to, there should be nothing wrong with trying to get better conditions for workers, we don't assume that all bosses are far right so why assume Unions are all far left?
@@markgrehan3726 this seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding of left-right dichtomy. Firstly there’s nothing wrong with union leaders being more often left-wing, usually a good thing in my eye. It shouldn’t be considered a coincidence that trade unions often are more left wing especially in their prime and most active. Some of the greatest opponents to say, the first red scare and reductions in worker’s rights were socialist and anarchist workers in America. Bosses aren’t necessarily “far right” (though it should not be considered a coincidence that say, Mussolini’s greatest opponents in Italy were worker’s councils and unions), but being against worker’s right is a decisively right wing act. Don’t need to be an outright fascist to still be right wing.
@@theoutlook55 Unified India drove the cold war in the region. The peak was in 1971 when India with active support from the Soviets defeated Pakistan having active support of the US. Story would've been way different if India wasn't unified. Edit: Not just region. India was one of the founding members of non-aligned movement. A government indulged in continuous conflicts cannot take such a stand.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires " ?jS?
It’s really important in today’s day in age to teach history from the second industrial revolution and first red scare. It’s shows how far companies are will to go to have power and take advantage of workers, and how there is not a huge difference between then and now. It’s also extremely important for people to know where the fear of communism originated from, it’s not from the Cold War, but from labor unionization and xenophobia.
The fear of communism probably comes from the fact that every single communist regime in history has been a repressive, totalitarian hell-hole that routinely murders its own people. But yeah, whatever you said lmao
America was in the beginnings of its capitalist imperialism era. So power to the people through collectivism and unions was a big no no to americas rich and powerful
It's ridiculous how this comment implies that supression of "workers" didn't happen in communist countries, where "workers" were much poorer btw. Workers in quotation because managers and entrepreneurs also work. Often much more than people think.
The question I'd like to ask, is who would benefit from keeping labor rights primitive, ambiguous and in the grey area of legislation? The employer or the employee?
The employer. The employer has the money, the government backing and the resources to enforce their will upon their staff. Only by coming together, working together and legislating can workers try to equalize that imbalance
@@Ромыч-х7и It's hard to solve all the problems of a centuries old system stacked against the working man all at once, especially when half the people you're fighting for are convinced that billionaires somehow have their best interests at heart
@@samwill7259 Sounds like the socialists themselves are the issue, for not being able to appeal to the working man, which makes sense when the majority prefer individualism over socialist ideas.
You keep using the word "unrest". In each and every photograph used to illustrate this unrest we can clearly see only one side armed, only one side beating workers in the street and only one side forcing people against their will. Who is creating this UNREST? Why is it called "labor unrest"when it is always the bosses who call upon violence to enforce their will?
You keep using the words "only one side" ... "each and every photograph" ... "always" ... but despite all of those qualifiers, it sounds like you watched "a fraction" of the video before your unrest drove you to comment. You have absolute confidence in statements that just aren't true of this video, and you should feel bad about that. But more importantly, you should be embarrassed to have such a black and white stance on this whole issue at a broader level.
You didn’t mention that many people feared and didn’t want factories to automate the work because they would lose all their income! And do you realize that when they started factories that would have made it (remotely) possible to become Sociialist, I think, if the people had the idea and the WILL to do it. Because it was the beginning of sort of “collectivization”. Gerard Winstanley was someone who talked about it, and he had some followers But it was also a time when people believed in slavery, and that it was right to give all the money to a few rich people, like they STILL do today in 2022! But today we have perfect forms of transportation and communication, and most of the money is now just numbers in computers, and that’s what makes it all the more possible to have Socialism today, worldwide, and eliminate money, and finally end world poverty and human suffering worldwide. AND to save the Earth from human destruction. And the things that are destroying the earth the most today are the corporations which are actually slave plantations because the wage is slavery and illegal.
Innocent is innocent and me not knowing what communism was in 2010 when a support was said by myself but was not knowing about anything negative nor was that concept even thought about at the time I said it on Facebook. I said the truth the Dr. Monosiet about the different definition in the Merriam dictionary of 1990-1991 that said it was property ownership(individual?) which USA has as a whole when added together and no reference to the social and economic manipulation and violent overthrow of capitalism that existed in the 1992 random house webster's college dictionary that I had never seen nor any other book,tv,or internet reference. This conversation with the dr.monosiet down at coastal behavioral(because others in the USA had messed with me maybe cpusa supporters who had assumed I was a communist as did coastal behavioral people which is why monosiet was shocked to hear I knew nothing about it of any importance to negativity about it). So I was innocent intersection jerks, you know what you tried to do to me and you need to stop just like maybe Billie jean fisher,or Carly mangling or anyone else who believes in socialism/communism in the USA. They tried to mess up economic and social stuff in my life in the form of a fake confession of harassing wrongdoing that never happened at home Depot and connived with management to try to make it real and called police on nothing harassing at all and told me I had to leave the premise or face the police(not even a crime) and not sexual harassment.
@@kayvan671 it´s in philosophy, an idea so chill. Mélenchon has some of it in his ideas. Communism is not a single rigid idea based on ethnicity or culture.
@Sparks let them laugh (and by that I just mean western Euro-trash) they mean nothing to those of us who know better. The same idiots who neutered their own domestic energy industries only to get punished by big scary Russia.
Well, they saw communism in action, so that may have helped... Gulags and mass executions don't often create good PR...especially when you do it at every opportunity you get. And, as it turns out Soviet intelligence operations were always happy to aid any trade union and pacifist movement they could find. Well, except in their own country. Never in their own country.
All those mass executions and prosecutions are revanchism for same things that capitalist system did to them when it was in power. At least that's what happent in Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, China,...
Definitely agree ussr and China always supported socialist parties in different countries to bring them under their influence but they never allowed it in their country.
The point is that labour movements that saw to increase the living standards of the workers were framed as some socialist conspiracy. Further, no one has seen Communism in action. There was a Communist Party in control that created a totalitarian state. There's a difference. The USSR never claimed their country had reached Communism. The worldwide socialist movement is way broader than just 'what happened in Russia'
@@timf2279 maybe you should go outside and read a book. It’s pretty embarrassing that you think this video is biased in a pro-left way. Just shows how utterly skewed your worldview is. You don’t even have a clue
Post WW1 European nations were at the risk of revolution, so some sort of labor appeasement were attempted though social welfare system. Since US was not in danger of revolution, the organized labor movement was easily suppressed by equating these movements as communists.
@@fuzzlemacfuzz More like the FBI violating every right you can think of in the name of fucking the working class and later civil rights movement en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
Funnily enough, *I* would argue that the First Amendment absolutely does not cover all speech and that things that actively endanger others aren't included (although membership in the IWW is 100% NOT something that actively endangers others and is absolutely protected). But the constitutional literalists, almost all of whom are far right, go around claiming that the First Amendment is absolute while simultaneously overlooking things like this that aren't convenient for them (guess they're too busy protecting your "right" to espouse Nazi rhetoric).
@@zackakai5173 I don't think the far-right are constitutional literalists. I think they've simply hijacked the courts to be able to make the constitution say whatever suits them best in the moment
Land of the free...so long as you unwaveringly support capitalism, don't threaten profits and don't step out of line (who needs better worker conditions, welfare and universal healthcare anyway!)
@@JamesM.1776 Oh I know, particularly as I live in the UK myself. I'm commenting more on the ironic situation that the USA sees it's as the land of the free, yet hated, and still hates, anything vaguely "socialist" like trade unions and universal healthcare.
@@DitDotDan yes because forced union membership and government controlled healthcare are the very opposite of freedom. The "free" in land of the free means liberty, not without cost.
@@DitDotDan America has a very skewed understanding of what socialism actually or rather, factually truly is. Its more used as a scare word like the bogyman or the devil.
I dropped out of high school and yet somehow have always managed to have a job that provides medical insurance so I don't need welfare and I invest in my own retirement. So yeah, I don't need the government to take care of me. Which in reality means it would control me.
Agreed. But also remember that there's a difference between Communism, especially Leninism or Maoism. And socialism, which is what most people in the west actually WANT
How to become neither pro or anti communist: first study how USSR,CCP and Cambodia treated their people. secondly study how anti communism became a rallying cry for fascism and how anti communist oh so free western nations supported dictatorships and segregation in other countries and suppression of anything left of center in their own country.
@@samwill7259 you people are some of the worst, socialism is next door to totalitarianism. Do you mean social democracy? I don't like that either but that's better.
Is kind of pointless when the revolutionaries just become the new owners with a different name. The owned remain the owned. Like Orwell said, from the point of view of the low no historic change has ever meant much more than a change in the name of their masters.
It's amazing what an abstraction like Profit will inspire people to do to one another. This highlights just how vehemently dedicated the Capital Class was (and still is) to ensuring the world's populations are kept in abject poverty, and themselves getting richer. But their aspirations for never-ending growth are leading to the outright extinction of all life on this planet and it will take a unification on a global scale among the Working Class to truly take these predators on. The fact that the Capital Class is so committed to making sure the mass of people continue to suffer in perpetuity is all the reason we need to unite, organize, mobilize, plan out, and execute the eventual downfall of Capitalism and the penitence of the Capital Class.
@CrispinBell Carrying the label of Communist to the public doesn't make them Communist in practice. What we saw throughout the 20th Century and into today is not at all what Communism or Socialism is about. They are nothing more than labels of convenience that Authoritarian and Totalitarian regimes have used to lie to their own people and keep them from revolting, when in reality, what those governments actually are/were is State Capitalist. This means that Capitalism is what drives these countries' economies, but they are strictly concentrating within the political and military apparatus.
@@matthewc6134 Actually, yes there is. Market-based practices are popping up across North Korea, albeit very small examples and usually as under-the-radar as possible. The Kim regime knows they can't keep the State in control of everything indefinitely, as interaction with the outside world is a necessity for the country's survival - which is becoming more and more clear to the North Korean government as time goes on. As for your (predictable) "love it or leave it" schtick, you're just another ignoramus who thinks they know what they're talking about because you heard what you "know" from Establishment sources - which, I may add, have a vested interest in keeping you dumbed down because that leads to them being able to control you and make sure you're nothing more than a cog in the machine that makes them rich and powerful. People like you are the biggest roadblock to taking that critical first step towards getting rid of Capitalism and freeing us all from the tyranny of those who seek to keep us in abject poverty. It's easy for people to say that Communism and/or Socialism doesn't work because there has never been a true Socialist or Communist system that's been successfully put in place in human history. You can't truly say something doesn't work if it hasn't actually been done before, because you don't actually know if it will or not. We've lived with Capitalism since the 1700s (at least), and while it has led to more people being prosperous than in previous systems, that group is still extremely limited to a few while the majority continue to suffer . Capitalism may work for a few; but it's not worth keeping if it doesn't benefit the mass of people, and as history has clearly proven, Capitalism does not work for the majority.
You see, it's shit like this why we don't like Communism. Calling for the overthrow of America, the overthrow of the world--general super villain shit. How bout we overthrow Communism once and for all?
Dear chamber in progress. You are right. Problem is you, you are the capital class. Do YOU make your shoes and clothes? Or like the rest buy cheap shit made by slave labour in far East that ends in oceans?
Forgive me, but "libertarian socialism" sounds like an inherent contradiction in terms (at least if you're applying it to the same aspects of the law). How would you define those terms in such a way where they're not contradictory?
@@zackakai5173 More or less this is defined as democracy and the economy should not be run by the state, nor an elite of capitalists. So the Libertarian part is, that people are only really free if they are freed from being wageworkers and free from the state. So in essence, through local councils and workers self-management in companies, only then freedom of one's own life can begin
That theory of attributing the rise of Trade Unionism to lower wages it lacks base, wages have always rised, living standar have always rised, it was the marxist-socialist ideology that "capitalism will make people poorer and poorer" from what the movement sprang
Contrary to what is said in the video, US industrial revolution did not produce bad payed jobs. It produced very well payed jobs for what was the norm at that time. People were moving to US industrial centers from everywhere around the world because they could earn much more with those silly industrial jobs in the US than in their hometown. It's like nowadays in China. The poor people from China are not those workers that live in cities like Shanghái. The poor people in China are those that didn't move from western parts of the country.
Your research is very detailed and well presented. However the silly phrases you use to ask viewers to click the subscribe and bell button is pathetic and annoying.I would suggest you stop this dreck.
Please, could you stop using colourised footages for illustration? Not only is it almost always very poorly done on already degraded images, but you are distorting the work of the filmmakers and photographers who made them, often at the risk of their lives, and assuming that your audience is not capable of looking at black and white pictures without inevitably falling into a coma
I am more in favor of society having the option of choosing a true democratic socialist parties/labor party (voters have option of kicking them out) then having trade unions/association (same with business associations) because one looks after a countries labor as a whole while the other only cares about its own members to the detriment of society sometimes.
Trade unions are a result of individuals' personal civil liberty. It is freedom of association. No one forces you, or should force you, to be part of them or negotiate with them - they are simply a group of people organizing for the purpose of negotiation with the backing of their collective influence in the workplace.
they're no exclusive of each other, having only a big party and prohibit trade unions or other kind of local assemblies would be like a country governed only from the capital. very prone to gloss over the problems of people outside the center of power.
@@Michael-mh2tw it's very easy to say until you see cases of workers beaten for not joining up union. Some of those are very hardcore and will easily resort to violence. I have noticed this in lot of developing countries which had socialism influence
@@CaptCKernel Oh no! Going to the Moon ! Mars! The internet! Food to feed the people. Whatever shall humanity do with all this opportunity!? Have fun with your King Joffrey-esque communist royalty. hahahha
@@jasonoconner7863 the Soviets made it to space before we did lmfao I'm not saying communism is good but your statement is at best a stereotype that is shared by Democracy. Way to prove that you don't actually know what you're talking about and just regurgitate what your 8th grade history teacher told you
@@CaptCKernel Did they make it to Moon? Did they make it to Mars? Did they develop the personal computer? lmfao Ignore my points all you want brother. Freedom is objectively better for humanity than a dictator's chains.
My ancestors were factory workers, miners, etc and were always staunchly anti-union, anti-labor organization, etc. Even if you had a job with a company which did not value high quality working conditions at all, you could leave... quite a bit better than being a literal peasant like they were born.
America didn't "become" anti communist. Communism is the very opposite of everything the west ever stood for. Individual liberty and personal responsibility, right to private property, etc.
Goodness this was a mess. It need not go as far as communism to want better working conditions. I'm glad I wasn't there for the red scare. Thank you for another informative video. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
I think its hard to say this is exactly how America became "anti-communist" but you are totally right on the persecutions of American communists/Marxists. Im no a proponent of the ideology but that's just so un-American
You don't actually believe that despite wanting to sound very high and mighty. I would suppress them just as I would a fundamentalist terrorist organization, a national socialist movement, or anything else that seeks the destruction, overthrow, or decay of the country.
It's very American, it exist long before America as the country itself existed. Read on Ben Franklin's disgust towards hermetic German societies existing in the 13 Colonies in 1757, or Alexander Hamilton's anti-Catholic sentiment when the 1763 Quebec Act was passed. Or the Naturalization Act of 1800 making immigration to the US by any foreigners nigh impossible. Or the various nativist claptrap from the 1820's onward, especially on Catholics like the Irish, Italians, and South Germans. Or the persecution of anyone looking like the Chinese which led to the 1883 Chinese Exclusion Act. Or the 1924 Quota laws on immigration which heavily discriminates against anyone not of White, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant upbringing. Or that one time the US interned an entire demographic to landlocked camps in WW2. Oh and let us not forget the persecutions against certain groups within states like the Quakers, the abolitionists, and the Mormons...
@@drexsamson3762 Fair, but I think it was a part of labor organizations to an extent that's worth talking about. And it should also be said that many Jewish people joined and lead labor movements and where important in the movement and thats good. But leftist labor movements at the time (im talking interwar period) where more than happy to conflate Judaism with capitalism.
Have you ever considered uploading a video about the Trade-Unions in the USSR?
East Germany 👍
Didn't they already did one with the Novocherkassk Massacre of 1962?
😅 GOOD ONE. .. TRADE UNIONS IN USSR TOTAL COMMUNIST 😮
Can you do a feature episode about the Philippines under Ferdinand E. Marcos and Under Martial Law from 1972 to 1981
we're barely atartinf going into the 60s, calm down, lol
You have your timeline mixed up. The Knights of Labor became the foundations of the SPUSA & IWW. Both organizations were effectively destroyed during the first Red Scare. The SPUSA & IWW survived in name only but the majority of members & leading organizers founded the CPUSA then later the SWP & CIO.
You made it seem like they were competing organizations. But the CPUSA emerged as the result of the SPUSA & IWW’s demise.
He also implied that the IWW was founded in 1905 with Communists in its ranks. The CPUSA wasn't founded until 1919 (and the old term "Communist" was only revived by the Russians in 1918). Some IWW members then joined it, but they had to leave the IWW to do so (which was, in any case very much in decline by that stage).
This channel is blatantly biased and malicious.
@@robertbollard5475 the IWW is still around.
@@charion1234 The IWW was destroyed & refounded. There’s no direct continuity between the historical IWW & it’s modern reincarnations
@@markpatterson3723 officially. Individuals kept crawling about.
This is honestly so fascinating.
I think something that's kind of skipped over even in this documentary is how by the early 1900s most Americans were either self employed or worked in very small businesses. the centuries of feudalism in Europe must have had an effect on the labor movement there versus here where we had a very strong independent and individualist streaks since our founding as a nation.
Wow, I'm glad someone else noticed that!
The 2nd Amendment also helped. Guess what the Nazi's and Soviets took away from folks when they gained power?
@@buffymcmuffin5361 yep.
And it wasn't just sentiment either, its most basic laws and even patterns of property ownership really do (and have) made it a much more individualist society
'.... by the early 1900s most Americans were either self employed or worked in very small businesses.'
And that was true until about 15 years ago in the USA. Small business employed a bit more than 50% of the workforce in 2007. Today's it's about 47%. But how many is small, medium, and large? The US Small Business Administration states a small business is 500 or fewer employees in most sectors and up to 1500 employees in others sectors, such as mining and manufacturing. But other aspects matter too. For example, ownership and revenue. Small and medium-sized businesses (SMB) are most often privately held. (There are a few large businesses that are private as well, for example Bechtel and Mars.) Government (local, state, and federal) employs 15% of the workforce. Medium and large business employ the remainder.
By percent, SMB are more than 99% of businesses in the US. Numerically, about 21k businesses are large. There are more than 32 million businesses in the US. The overwhelming majority are 1 to 4 employees.
What about the topic of the history of labor laws during the same time period? That happened just as much as these strikes
It's such a shame that politically minded people with their own agendas got involved with these events, most people just wanted a slightly better life and not to bring down a government. There is nothing wrong with opposing a corrupt boss or company that pays you in scrip, forces you to buy things in a company store, and is happy for you to work yourself to death as they believe it's easier and cheaper to just employ a new person instead of spending a little cash and say add some safety guards.
Good to have you
Yeah there is. All that pissing and moaning lead to our jobs being out-sourced to people who don't ask for that stuff. Also, REAL rights are never based on money.... i.e. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc are not about money.
Isn’t trade unions in and of it self political? Like if you become involved in that stuff, you have to be politically minded. One of the big ones I think of is Eugene v. Debs, and he was a straight up socialist.
@@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034 They often go that way I guess but they don't have to, there should be nothing wrong with trying to get better conditions for workers, we don't assume that all bosses are far right so why assume Unions are all far left?
@@markgrehan3726 this seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding of left-right dichtomy.
Firstly there’s nothing wrong with union leaders being more often left-wing, usually a good thing in my eye. It shouldn’t be considered a coincidence that trade unions often are more left wing especially in their prime and most active. Some of the greatest opponents to say, the first red scare and reductions in worker’s rights were socialist and anarchist workers in America.
Bosses aren’t necessarily “far right” (though it should not be considered a coincidence that say, Mussolini’s greatest opponents in Italy were worker’s councils and unions), but being against worker’s right is a decisively right wing act. Don’t need to be an outright fascist to still be right wing.
Today's experiencing is showing us why we should always be anti-communist.
Hope your comment is a great source of shame for you nowadays.
There’s no more pseudo communism… that mindset really poisoned Americans
Can you do 'Integration of 565 princely states of India'?
Oh my gosh, YES!! I would love that, though I think that's a better fit for the Biographics channel with Simon.
@@theoutlook55 Unified India drove the cold war in the region. The peak was in 1971 when India with active support from the Soviets defeated Pakistan having active support of the US. Story would've been way different if India wasn't unified.
Edit: Not just region. India was one of the founding members of non-aligned movement. A government indulged in continuous conflicts cannot take such a stand.
America did not become communist, therefore it did not have to become anti communist.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires " ?jS?
It’s really important in today’s day in age to teach history from the second industrial revolution and first red scare. It’s shows how far companies are will to go to have power and take advantage of workers, and how there is not a huge difference between then and now. It’s also extremely important for people to know where the fear of communism originated from, it’s not from the Cold War, but from labor unionization and xenophobia.
We already have communism if people bothered to read marx then analyze the federal reserve.
>muh xenophobia
Your wife’s boyfriend told you to say that?
The fear of communism probably comes from the fact that every single communist regime in history has been a repressive, totalitarian hell-hole that routinely murders its own people.
But yeah, whatever you said lmao
America was in the beginnings of its capitalist imperialism era. So power to the people through collectivism and unions was a big no no to americas rich and powerful
It's ridiculous how this comment implies that supression of "workers" didn't happen in communist countries, where "workers" were much poorer btw. Workers in quotation because managers and entrepreneurs also work. Often much more than people think.
The question I'd like to ask, is who would benefit from keeping labor rights primitive, ambiguous and in the grey area of legislation?
The employer or the employee?
The employer. The employer has the money, the government backing and the resources to enforce their will upon their staff. Only by coming together, working together and legislating can workers try to equalize that imbalance
Leftists, obviously, otherwise how can they virtue signal about problems while also doing nothing about it.
@@Ромыч-х7и It's hard to solve all the problems of a centuries old system stacked against the working man all at once, especially when half the people you're fighting for are convinced that billionaires somehow have their best interests at heart
@@samwill7259 Sounds like the socialists themselves are the issue, for not being able to appeal to the working man, which makes sense when the majority prefer individualism over socialist ideas.
@@Ромыч-х7и I don't think you know what socialism is, because you seem to confuse it for communism.
The corporate oligarchy never wants workers to be in a position to stand up for themselves and challenge the oligarchs' profit.
Overpaid Labor Union bosses don't care about their workers.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Sure, Jan.
@@BTScriviner gross, go back to Twitter
Leftists are the lapdogs of corporate oligarchs.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Bless your heart.
Lmao at these comments lauding full blown USSR style communism
You keep using the word "unrest". In each and every photograph used to illustrate this unrest we can clearly see only one side armed, only one side beating workers in the street and only one side forcing people against their will. Who is creating this UNREST? Why is it called "labor unrest"when it is always the bosses who call upon violence to enforce their will?
You keep using the words "only one side" ... "each and every photograph" ... "always" ... but despite all of those qualifiers, it sounds like you watched "a fraction" of the video before your unrest drove you to comment. You have absolute confidence in statements that just aren't true of this video, and you should feel bad about that. But more importantly, you should be embarrassed to have such a black and white stance on this whole issue at a broader level.
Workers illegally occupying and commandeering factories and workplaces is akin to theft. You can’t takeover someone else’s property.
@@americameinyourmouth9964 I bet you think taxes are theft too. (And your user name isn't as clever as you think it is.)
@@BTScriviner OVERtaxation is theft.
That's because he presents it poorly and then ignoramuses like you latch onto it with already preconceived notions.
You could discuss the life and career of Henry Wallace.
15 min?
It's a British colony. You know...market?
Can you do an episode on the UK during Cold War?
oh America's handy work is all over it
This documentary was too short.
📻🙂
Hmmm.
Please do a video on sacco and vanzetti
Excellent
Up the trade unionists that has paved the way for all workers rights you enjoy today.
Factually incorrect when looking at US history. They played a part in some areas though.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Would you rather work 14 hours a day for a company then? How does the boot taste?
@@zakkart self employment is a strange concept isn't it? If not I'd work somewhere else.
@@zakkart how does your mask taste despite it being 2022?
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 self employment is sadly something that alot of people can't do.
You didn’t mention that many people feared and didn’t want factories to automate the work because they would lose all their income! And do you realize that when they started factories that would have made it (remotely) possible to become Sociialist, I think, if the people had the idea and the WILL to do it. Because it was the beginning of sort of “collectivization”. Gerard Winstanley was someone who talked about it, and he had some followers But it was also a time when people believed in slavery, and that it was right to give all the money to a few rich people, like they STILL do today in 2022! But today we have perfect forms of transportation and communication, and most of the money is now just numbers in computers, and that’s what makes it all the more possible to have Socialism today, worldwide, and eliminate money, and finally end world poverty and human suffering worldwide. AND to save the Earth from human destruction. And the things that are destroying the earth the most today are the corporations which are actually slave plantations because the wage is slavery and illegal.
Lol no
Innocent is innocent and me not knowing what communism was in 2010 when a support was said by myself but was not knowing about anything negative nor was that concept even thought about at the time I said it on Facebook. I said the truth the Dr. Monosiet about the different definition in the Merriam dictionary of 1990-1991 that said it was property ownership(individual?) which USA has as a whole when added together and no reference to the social and economic manipulation and violent overthrow of capitalism that existed in the 1992 random house webster's college dictionary that I had never seen nor any other book,tv,or internet reference. This conversation with the dr.monosiet down at coastal behavioral(because others in the USA had messed with me maybe cpusa supporters who had assumed I was a communist as did coastal behavioral people which is why monosiet was shocked to hear I knew nothing about it of any importance to negativity about it). So I was innocent intersection jerks, you know what you tried to do to me and you need to stop just like maybe Billie jean fisher,or Carly mangling or anyone else who believes in socialism/communism in the USA. They tried to mess up economic and social stuff in my life in the form of a fake confession of harassing wrongdoing that never happened at home Depot and connived with management to try to make it real and called police on nothing harassing at all and told me I had to leave the premise or face the police(not even a crime) and not sexual harassment.
Good output
proud to be a member of the IWW ✊
Ditto
You can clash with the bourgeoisie without being a communist or fascist
American paranoia...
Not paranoia.
Good
Thank God, Communism doesn't exist anymore here in Europe.
@@kayvan671 it´s in philosophy, an idea so chill. Mélenchon has some of it in his ideas. Communism is not a single rigid idea based on ethnicity or culture.
justified based on reality
@Sparks let them laugh (and by that I just mean western Euro-trash) they mean nothing to those of us who know better. The same idiots who neutered their own domestic energy industries only to get punished by big scary Russia.
Nativists... A country made by engiish, german, dutch, french immigrants . What a joke
The English, German, Dutch, and French were invaders not merely immigrants. They might believe in the "right of conquest"
ah but god made America for the religious nuts who felt there was too much freedom in Europe
Built on land that belongs to American Indians, and built by the exploitation of African Americans, Chinese, Irish and Italians.
Well done.
🙂👍
First unions where in Lawrence Massachusetts
Well, they saw communism in action, so that may have helped...
Gulags and mass executions don't often create good PR...especially when you do it at every opportunity you get. And, as it turns out Soviet intelligence operations were always happy to aid any trade union and pacifist movement they could find. Well, except in their own country. Never in their own country.
All those mass executions and prosecutions are revanchism for same things that capitalist system did to them when it was in power. At least that's what happent in Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, China,...
Not sure if these affairs were well known back then, even now most Americans know little of such things, they're too busy worshipping celebrities.
Definitely agree ussr and China always supported socialist parties in different countries to bring them under their influence but they never allowed it in their country.
The point is that labour movements that saw to increase the living standards of the workers were framed as some socialist conspiracy.
Further, no one has seen Communism in action. There was a Communist Party in control that created a totalitarian state. There's a difference. The USSR never claimed their country had reached Communism.
The worldwide socialist movement is way broader than just 'what happened in Russia'
How America became BASED.
What is that emblem at 7:18?
I normally dont like america but this is a W for the US🗿🍷
This comment section is toxic af
Libertarians suck.
Yep, and a ton of comments deleted too.
How?
@@timf2279 LMAO it’s really not but okay. Regardless, my initial statement was related to brainless comments in the comment section, like you’re
@@timf2279 maybe you should go outside and read a book. It’s pretty embarrassing that you think this video is biased in a pro-left way. Just shows how utterly skewed your worldview is. You don’t even have a clue
Post WW1 European nations were at the risk of revolution, so some sort of labor appeasement were attempted though social welfare system. Since US was not in danger of revolution, the organized labor movement was easily suppressed by equating these movements as communists.
It would be so wonderful if this channel could actually hide it's politics as hard as it's trying to.....
@@timf2279 what a meaningless term
Stalin's Goons and SS Runes, and now we get FBI Loons,all the same ,
Oppressive Tunes.
I take it thats a dig at the FBI carrying out their legal obligation for investigating crime at the federal level??
@@fuzzlemacfuzz lefties and bootlicking, name a more iconic duo
@@fuzzlemacfuzz More like the FBI violating every right you can think of in the name of fucking the working class and later civil rights movement en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
10 SECS AGO
Interesting video
How they managed to make membership in iww criminal? Didn't this violate first amendment?
This problem persists. You would think that what is in the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947 violates the first amendment, but it's still in effect
Like that would stop the HUAC...
You have no "rights." Just temporary privileges. There are exceptions to every law/right. Go ask the Japanese Americans about rights.
Funnily enough, *I* would argue that the First Amendment absolutely does not cover all speech and that things that actively endanger others aren't included (although membership in the IWW is 100% NOT something that actively endangers others and is absolutely protected). But the constitutional literalists, almost all of whom are far right, go around claiming that the First Amendment is absolute while simultaneously overlooking things like this that aren't convenient for them (guess they're too busy protecting your "right" to espouse Nazi rhetoric).
@@zackakai5173 I don't think the far-right are constitutional literalists. I think they've simply hijacked the courts to be able to make the constitution say whatever suits them best in the moment
Land of the free...so long as you unwaveringly support capitalism, don't threaten profits and don't step out of line (who needs better worker conditions, welfare and universal healthcare anyway!)
You can still have all of those things and be capitalist. See: Most of western Europe.
@@JamesM.1776 Oh I know, particularly as I live in the UK myself. I'm commenting more on the ironic situation that the USA sees it's as the land of the free, yet hated, and still hates, anything vaguely "socialist" like trade unions and universal healthcare.
@@DitDotDan yes because forced union membership and government controlled healthcare are the very opposite of freedom. The "free" in land of the free means liberty, not without cost.
@@DitDotDan America has a very skewed understanding of what socialism actually or rather, factually truly is. Its more used as a scare word like the bogyman or the devil.
I dropped out of high school and yet somehow have always managed to have a job that provides medical insurance so I don't need welfare and I invest in my own retirement. So yeah, I don't need the government to take care of me. Which in reality means it would control me.
No offense, but you often come off as a communist apologist in some of these videos.
Well Capitalism isn't great either
With such atmosphere, do you wonder why Commienism has a lasting appeal?
@@fuzzlemacfuzz
Still better then Communism lol
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 because of the Fed giving people free shit for the past 100 years...
my mans slight positives come off as communist lmao,americans are truly indoctrinated
How to become anti communist: Study how the USSR, CCP, and Cambodia treated their people
Agreed. But also remember that there's a difference between Communism, especially Leninism or Maoism. And socialism, which is what most people in the west actually WANT
How to become neither pro or anti communist: first study how USSR,CCP and Cambodia treated their people. secondly study how anti communism became a rallying cry for fascism and how anti communist oh so free western nations supported dictatorships and segregation in other countries and suppression of anything left of center in their own country.
@@samwill7259 you people are some of the worst, socialism is next door to totalitarianism. Do you mean social democracy? I don't like that either but that's better.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 true socialism or communism, by definition, is radically democratic.
Also, don't forget how the VC treated people like my parents and grandparents in Vietnam.
ah yes, the great battle between owner and the owned
Is kind of pointless when the revolutionaries just become the new owners with a different name. The owned remain the owned. Like Orwell said, from the point of view of the low no historic change has ever meant much more than a change in the name of their masters.
Claiming their words had “incited” violent incidents. Where have I heard that one recently? 🤔
It's amazing what an abstraction like Profit will inspire people to do to one another. This highlights just how vehemently dedicated the Capital Class was (and still is) to ensuring the world's populations are kept in abject poverty, and themselves getting richer. But their aspirations for never-ending growth are leading to the outright extinction of all life on this planet and it will take a unification on a global scale among the Working Class to truly take these predators on. The fact that the Capital Class is so committed to making sure the mass of people continue to suffer in perpetuity is all the reason we need to unite, organize, mobilize, plan out, and execute the eventual downfall of Capitalism and the penitence of the Capital Class.
You're free to go live in Cuba or North Korea. No capitalism there.
@CrispinBell Carrying the label of Communist to the public doesn't make them Communist in practice. What we saw throughout the 20th Century and into today is not at all what Communism or Socialism is about. They are nothing more than labels of convenience that Authoritarian and Totalitarian regimes have used to lie to their own people and keep them from revolting, when in reality, what those governments actually are/were is State Capitalist. This means that Capitalism is what drives these countries' economies, but they are strictly concentrating within the political and military apparatus.
@@matthewc6134 Actually, yes there is. Market-based practices are popping up across North Korea, albeit very small examples and usually as under-the-radar as possible. The Kim regime knows they can't keep the State in control of everything indefinitely, as interaction with the outside world is a necessity for the country's survival - which is becoming more and more clear to the North Korean government as time goes on.
As for your (predictable) "love it or leave it" schtick, you're just another ignoramus who thinks they know what they're talking about because you heard what you "know" from Establishment sources - which, I may add, have a vested interest in keeping you dumbed down because that leads to them being able to control you and make sure you're nothing more than a cog in the machine that makes them rich and powerful. People like you are the biggest roadblock to taking that critical first step towards getting rid of Capitalism and freeing us all from the tyranny of those who seek to keep us in abject poverty.
It's easy for people to say that Communism and/or Socialism doesn't work because there has never been a true Socialist or Communist system that's been successfully put in place in human history. You can't truly say something doesn't work if it hasn't actually been done before, because you don't actually know if it will or not. We've lived with Capitalism since the 1700s (at least), and while it has led to more people being prosperous than in previous systems, that group is still extremely limited to a few while the majority continue to suffer . Capitalism may work for a few; but it's not worth keeping if it doesn't benefit the mass of people, and as history has clearly proven, Capitalism does not work for the majority.
You see, it's shit like this why we don't like Communism. Calling for the overthrow of America, the overthrow of the world--general super villain shit. How bout we overthrow Communism once and for all?
Dear chamber in progress. You are right. Problem is you, you are the capital class. Do YOU make your shoes and clothes? Or like the rest buy cheap shit made by slave labour in far East that ends in oceans?
Hi David. Is that a tiny antique TV behind you and to your right?
And it’s working, right? Looks like it has a show going on. 😊
How America became based (for once).
Could you do an episode on non-soviet leftist movements (libertarian socialist movements for example) across the world?
That would be an entire new channel
Forgive me, but "libertarian socialism" sounds like an inherent contradiction in terms (at least if you're applying it to the same aspects of the law). How would you define those terms in such a way where they're not contradictory?
@@zackakai5173 More or less this is defined as democracy and the economy should not be run by the state, nor an elite of capitalists. So the Libertarian part is, that people are only really free if they are freed from being wageworkers and free from the state. So in essence, through local councils and workers self-management in companies, only then freedom of one's own life can begin
Libertarian socialism? Kinda sounds like an oxymoron...
That theory of attributing the rise of Trade Unionism to lower wages it lacks base, wages have always rised, living standar have always rised, it was the marxist-socialist ideology that "capitalism will make people poorer and poorer" from what the movement sprang
Contrary to what is said in the video, US industrial revolution did not produce bad payed jobs. It produced very well payed jobs for what was the norm at that time. People were moving to US industrial centers from everywhere around the world because they could earn much more with those silly industrial jobs in the US than in their hometown.
It's like nowadays in China. The poor people from China are not those workers that live in cities like Shanghái. The poor people in China are those that didn't move from western parts of the country.
I'm a commie and a wobbly... Pretty sure I don't belong here - the comments scream ignorance and I can't tell if they're fans or haters.
If you're a commie and a westerner then you're the ignorant one.
lmao
Solidarity Forever!
Welcome to the history fandom, where the "history nerds" sounds more and more like a euphemism for "people with troublesome views"...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 ok schizo
Anytime you get "nerds" involved, the views tend to get more troublesome over time - history or otherwise.
It didn't *become* anti-Communist, it was before Communism even existed.
Your research is very detailed and well presented. However the silly phrases you use to ask viewers to click the subscribe and bell button is pathetic and annoying.I would suggest you stop this dreck.
Please, could you stop using colourised footages for illustration? Not only is it almost always very poorly done on already degraded images, but you are distorting the work of the filmmakers and photographers who made them, often at the risk of their lives, and assuming that your audience is not capable of looking at black and white pictures without inevitably falling into a coma
That should be an obvious answer: by having an actual brain.
Agreed.
True
I am more in favor of society having the option of choosing a true democratic socialist parties/labor party (voters have option of kicking them out) then having trade unions/association (same with business associations) because one looks after a countries labor as a whole while the other only cares about its own members to the detriment of society sometimes.
Trade unions are a result of individuals' personal civil liberty. It is freedom of association. No one forces you, or should force you, to be part of them or negotiate with them - they are simply a group of people organizing for the purpose of negotiation with the backing of their collective influence in the workplace.
they're no exclusive of each other, having only a big party and prohibit trade unions or other kind of local assemblies would be like a country governed only from the capital. very prone to gloss over the problems of people outside the center of power.
You cannot have democracy without trade unions. I would be astonished to have to say this but then I remember that you’re probably just a liberal
When did American become so in-American…
@@Michael-mh2tw it's very easy to say until you see cases of workers beaten for not joining up union. Some of those are very hardcore and will easily resort to violence. I have noticed this in lot of developing countries which had socialism influence
I mean, some rights like strong property rights don’t mesh well with communism either
Communism always ends with a King....I'm sorry a "Premier" . While good to learn from, we don't ever have to subject humankind to that misery again.
And democracy always ends in Oligarchy. While good to learn from, we don't ever have to subject humankind to that misery again
@@CaptCKernel Oh no! Going to the Moon ! Mars! The internet! Food to feed the people. Whatever shall humanity do with all this opportunity!? Have fun with your King Joffrey-esque communist royalty. hahahha
A communist dictatorship is usually far worse than a king, as well.
@@jasonoconner7863 the Soviets made it to space before we did lmfao I'm not saying communism is good but your statement is at best a stereotype that is shared by Democracy.
Way to prove that you don't actually know what you're talking about and just regurgitate what your 8th grade history teacher told you
@@CaptCKernel Did they make it to Moon? Did they make it to Mars? Did they develop the personal computer? lmfao Ignore my points all you want brother. Freedom is objectively better for humanity than a dictator's chains.
My ancestors were factory workers, miners, etc and were always staunchly anti-union, anti-labor organization, etc.
Even if you had a job with a company which did not value high quality working conditions at all, you could leave... quite a bit better than being a literal peasant like they were born.
How? Applied common sense.
What do you mean
America didn't "become" anti communist. Communism is the very opposite of everything the west ever stood for. Individual liberty and personal responsibility, right to private property, etc.
Hilarious. How many billions are you worth? Oh right🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"personal responsibility" only if you're poor, if you're rich you can just ask Uncle Sam for a bail out.
@@pantherace1000 Yes, it's personal responsibility for the poor and "limited liability" for the rich
Marx and Engels were westerners...
Oh you're also wrong, communism is western, the Bolshevik revolution was sponsored by the west, communist China found support from USA.
Goodness this was a mess. It need not go as far as communism to want better working conditions. I'm glad I wasn't there for the red scare. Thank you for another informative video.
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
I think its hard to say this is exactly how America became "anti-communist" but you are totally right on the persecutions of American communists/Marxists. Im no a proponent of the ideology but that's just so un-American
Probably the best comment in this thread so far. The ideology may be unsavory to some, but persecution should be unacceptable to all.
Persecution of "The Other" is un-American? That's kind of the story of our entire history.
@@elhues7528 sometimes it’s necessary, especially against such a subversive and internationally financed ideology like communism was
You don't actually believe that despite wanting to sound very high and mighty. I would suppress them just as I would a fundamentalist terrorist organization, a national socialist movement, or anything else that seeks the destruction, overthrow, or decay of the country.
It's very American, it exist long before America as the country itself existed. Read on Ben Franklin's disgust towards hermetic German societies existing in the 13 Colonies in 1757, or Alexander Hamilton's anti-Catholic sentiment when the 1763 Quebec Act was passed. Or the Naturalization Act of 1800 making immigration to the US by any foreigners nigh impossible. Or the various nativist claptrap from the 1820's onward, especially on Catholics like the Irish, Italians, and South Germans. Or the persecution of anyone looking like the Chinese which led to the 1883 Chinese Exclusion Act. Or the 1924 Quota laws on immigration which heavily discriminates against anyone not of White, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant upbringing. Or that one time the US interned an entire demographic to landlocked camps in WW2. Oh and let us not forget the persecutions against certain groups within states like the Quakers, the abolitionists, and the Mormons...
Love this and probably one of the few exceptions with it comes to discrimination. I'm all for pushing commies back.
Only a dead communist is a good communist
There's nothing wrong with taking parts that work from it. No single system is all good or all bad
Cool...can I actually make enough money to feed myself with a full time job though?
@@greenkoopa Cool story bruh but with communism can't give it an inch same goes for socialism.
@@samwill7259 stop being a corporate bootlicker then maybe you will :)
Bad start to the video. Calling trade unionism a threat in the same breath as talking about antisemitism is extremely messed up for a lot of reasons
I mean anti-semitism was a part of many labor movements in Europe.
@@relaxedsack1263 anti-semitism was a part of virtually every part of society, so that means every organization is inherently a threat?
@@drexsamson3762 Fair, but I think it was a part of labor organizations to an extent that's worth talking about. And it should also be said that many Jewish people joined and lead labor movements and where important in the movement and thats good. But leftist labor movements at the time (im talking interwar period) where more than happy to conflate Judaism with capitalism.
Antisemitism is common to socialism.
@@Ромыч-х7и [citation needed]
Anarchy and the true meaning of democracy are synonyms to each other. Both mean rule by the people.
Why do we need to see your face so much?