PT100 RTD Temperature Sensor Explained with Error Compensation
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2024
- In this video, PT100 RTD Resistance Temperature Sensor and Detector Circuit is Explained with Error Compensation to compensate for the effect of second order non-linearity of the RTD Platinum Temperature Sensors. PT100 is a positive temperature coefficient resistor whose value in Ohm changes as a functional of its temperature in the form of 100*[1+alpha*T+beta*T^2]. This circuit cleverly utilizes a weak positive feedback via a large potentiometer to counteract and compensate for the second order nonlinearity that depends on beta temperature coefficient. The analysis is provided in this video to compute the value of components to realize a linear variation of output voltage as a function of RTD resistor temperature. Two Zener diodes are carefully selected at the supply side to guarantee stable supply voltage with near zero temperature dependency.
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Hello Prof., I understand that you are confident that the resulting parameters for RF, RP and R2 will produce a close to ideal curve and it seems reasonable given the path taken to compensate for the 2nd order characteristics. Do you ever validate your results in the real world?
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Could use one BZX55C5V1
Thanks for the 5.1 volt Zener Diode suggestion BZX55C5V1. While it has a low TC (Temperature Coefficient) of between +/- 0.02% per degree junction temperature change, it's TC is still 7-8x larger than the TX of series of 3.9v and 4.3v Zener Diodes recommended in the video. Thanks though for the good suggestion. 👍
@@STEMprof I looked at the TC values for the zeners in the video and the Vishay data sheet lists the TC as "typical" values, so the range is unknown.
@@h7qvi Good point. That's also needed to be taken into account.
This is an extremely complicated and over-engineered circuit, which also misses the biggest error root causes.
Precise temperature measurements with a PT100 requires at first a 4-wire measurement, i.e. separate current and voltage lines, and an offset compensation to eliminate thermal e.m.f.s.
All this calculus is too theoretical.
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Actually that project is "a ready to use with 3 (or 4) wires" of Pt100
3 wires: zero (GND) wires left as it is. Then, on the plus (high side) one wire , the supply, current wire - goes to R1, the sensing, voltage wire goes to + input of the op-amp.
4 wires: plus, high side as with 3 wires. Low side (GND): current wire goes to local GND of "two Zener diodes" (4V3 low pole) and sensing wire goes to local GND of 1K resistor.
"local GND" means as close to GND of 4V3 Zener diode as possible and for 1k resistor as close as possible to its GND pole.
4 wires would be a bit artificial for that project, 3 wires is sufficient.
The design is a bit counterintuitive as quadratic nonlinearity is compensated by linear (with offset) correction of the gain.
I agree : over-engineered (in calculations, still simple design - a controversy),
shows something obsolete as nowaday thermocouples and Pt100 amplifiers/conditioners in-one ICs offer amplification and linearisation,
some ICs add ADC with SPI interface in one chip.
Fully analog ICs make it using similar but a bit better compensation of Pt100 non-linearity.
ICs with digital part inside don't care for non-linearity (compensated in analog way), the relevant linearisation is a part of inside software, a linearisation table.
Anyway - a piece of good training and ... history. And very simple design, which may make it usefull (quick to be made)
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