@@Thebanclub well can't argue with that. Yeah I remember that I kinda had same feeling towards dota 2 when it first came out. So I get the sentiment. It won me over as time went by though.
testers were under NDA, all it takes is enough people reposting leaked footage for it to become very difficult for Valve to do anything. You can litigate thousands of people posting the footage, none of whom were under NDA.
Game looks interesting, obviously it doesn't look finished because...well, it isn't finished, they're still gonna change a lot of things before release. And tbh, I might've give it a shot if I didn't know Valve was Valve. Why would I even bother sinking hundreds of hours into this when I know cheaters are eventually gonna ruin it without much pushback from Valve? Like, they don't care about the state of TF2 at all and aren't doing everything they could for Counter Strike, I'm sorry, but I ain't dedicating myself to competitive multiplayer games anymore, specially those made by Valve, cause these companies only want one thing *MONEY* Valve used to be different, but that was for a very brief period of time and it was a long time ago, unless Deadlock is the game where Valve reveals a new sort of anti-cheat system I ain't gonna bother playing it, It's just gonna be a waste of time.
"Why would I even bother sinking hundreds of hours into this when I know cheaters are eventually gonna ruin it without much pushback from Valve?" They are doing push back. The problem is that malicious people behind botting are actively updating their software MORE than actual virus creators, and even those are a pain in the ass to try to do anything about. If they changed VAC to be Kernel-based, you will have thousands of people then bitching about "I DON'T WANT ANY ROOTKIT SOFTWARE ON MY COMPUTER", though it would help solve a chunk of said issue.
@@ThatGuyInTheBack007 I'm sorry, TF2 is literally abandoned, they fucked up the matchmaking, killed community servers, limited players ability to kick bots and just stopped trying to do anything about it for a long time, cheaters have gotten so good at updating their cheating software for Valve games BECAUSE Valve did nothing about it for a long time. I ain't investing any time into Deadlock until they get their shit together. They'll probably just abandon it eventually anyway, I'll stick to Valve's single player games now thx, even tho they're rare.
This game will only get the TF2 treatment if it's not as much of a cash cow as CS or Dota (or at least doesn't trend that direction). Valve effectively countered cheaters in CS (premiere matchmaking is a fantastic system that more games need). Can't speak to Dota because I don't play it but my friends do and have never mentioned cheaters. The cheating problem in CS is overblown though, overwatch+premiere is a good system. It inherently filters the vast majority of cheaters into non-premiere lobbies. Otherwise VAC is a pretty flawed anti-cheat but so are pretty much all anti-cheat systems. Even Valorant/League isn't perfect, and even if they were Riot has infinite money and resources to put into anti-cheat development, and its proprietary so it's irrelevant to other game publishers anyways. You can't ask for the impossible, but I agree it has to be better than TF2 (which people seem to forget only became a problem after Valve abandoned it, thus not an issue for a new game)
It's time to grow up sadly, the time we spent playing old valve games was great, but nothing in this world is immortal, companies get greedy. It's time to do something else
Keep in mind this is kind of a spiritual successor to Dota, and Valve to this day is cooking the big ones for that game. It's honestly incredible how differently Valve treats Dota compared to CS and especially TF2.
It's competing for the moba crowd. There is not necessarily a lot of overlap with the tactical shooter crowd (there is some, but mostly due to Steam). The question should be whether this can compete with titles like Smite 2 and League of Legends. Knowing Valve it will blow either out of the water quality wise, so there is that.
@@ThefamousMrcroissantYou're right. From what I've seen, everyone keeps saying its another hero shooter but dont see how heavy the moba elements are. I hope this game becomes successful, thanks for the reply!
Пожалуй, однако думаю она больше понравиться дотерам и вероятно гражданам из овервотча, для средних фанов тф2 она не подойдёт предположу, меня она не заинтересовала но я вероятно дам ей шанс авось будет как с тф2 в свое время когда я начинал, тем не менее не думаю что я задержусь в ней не на долго, я не из тех кто любит потеть и получать удовольствие исключительно от надписи «победа» в конце раунда, я уже в такие игры наигрался, тем не менее надеюсь это будет хорошая игра для тех кого она сейчас привлекает
@@cucumber1955 понимаю, мне нравится тф2 за то что она олдовая и выглядит соответствующе и там эстетика и геймплей остался прежний если бы они выпустили тф3 то боюсь там уже не было того шарма, так что пока нормик думаю может после этой игры валв решит заняться всеми своими играми по серьезному и продвигать их
@@creepyghost928 я честно об этом не думаю, чем растягивать силы на проэкты с маленькой прибылью, куда проще и эффективнее бросить силы на работу с успешными проэктами и своим новым детищем, тф2 если что и получит то только если произойдёт чудо, я ни одного обновления не застал, самое интересное что я застал это VSH зомби режим и переход игры на 64х битную систему или как там, я бы хотел надеяться и верить но так горечь потери будет тяжелее, а так, я ничего не жду соответственно если что и будет я не разочаруюсь или не будет так же обидно как могло бы быть
Its worth keeping in mind this is a LEAK as in, its in alpha and the public shouldnt even know about it yet. Lots is going to change in the coming months, hopefully for the better, but who knows, we will see.
looks clean, but i wish the characters were a bit more unique. half their guns is just an automatic rifle and their 1st and ult abilities all seem to be very similar (aoe ability with effect). also, everything seems really.. chunky.. which i think works in a moba but a moba with fps elements needs a slightly higher ttk i feel. just to feel that responsiveness you'd want from the fps side. other than that, they're cooking.
It is an alpha, so chances are ALLOT is going to change over the next year or so until they release it. Honestly though reminds me of gigantic a bit, hoping they flush more things out for sure.
character weapons and ultimates are definitely unique idk where youre getting that from.. yes a few have AOEs.... all of which function and operate in entirely different ways..
I have a question. Do you have a way to heal, like by going back to base, or can you only get back to full health via the passive regen/eventual lifesteal items or whatever
Came here from Smite. Looks interesting. Game has a lot of Smite similarities, and guess Valve has been giving Smite ex-pros/content creators access to Deadlock to test since Smite is dying. All the feedback from has been really really good and that they will probably hop to Deadlock when it comes out
Danteh... I'm in the beta Danteh... It's actually better than it looks Danteh... Game is only in beta... With clearly unfinished assets, have some hopium... Danteh...
@@KnockKnockJoke99 Haven't played tf2 in literal years but go off. This game has 0 swag tho, wnb neo-noir magical moba shooter with the valorant artstyle, so many concepts yet not a single original one.
Jesus Christ this looks disgustingly uninspired. If I didn't know Valve made this I'd assume it was just another bust-out trend chasing AA studio. I think we need to accept that even if Valve is still intending to push frontiers, it's not in normal M&K gaming anymore.
This games looks weird, which I kind of appreciate. Kind of a BioShock infinite and dishonored aesthetic. What im not excited for is another competitive thing. I want casual shit back, like tf2. Give me a 12v12 shitfest.
This goes to the moba crowd, more specifically the DOTA side of valve or Smite, which by itself is driven by competitive feels and needs, the real motivator if you find it interesting comes if you like moba type games, tastes are varied and it's all fine.
I know this game is still in Alpha but I dont see the point in making a game like this. This game will likely be F2P so it will need a sustainable player base for in game purchases. This game likely wont be better than CS2, TF2, Dota2, or any other competing multiplayer game, so it will likely be dead within the first few weeks.
The fuck do you mean, this is a game that's in production. Theyre making games. If you meant a new half life series then it's also a good sign because theyre making games.
This Game gonna flop like crazy. The market is overflow with mobas and Overwatch clones. I don't understand who give the green light to make this Game... Looks boring af
Bro plays like an IGN employee
Yea because this game is ass. Mobas should be brought around to the backyard to be shot.
We're hoping valve dropped the trailer of this game on summer games festival
0:37 this is the only tf2 content we're ever gonna get I guess
this game has such a valve ui
looks and sounds like dota underlords
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN A VALVE UI
It doesn’t look terrible, just doesn’t look and play like a valve game
It's been 14 years since their last new IP, chances are the OG devs on allot of older valve games aren't there anymore. so not exactly unexpected
Have you ever played dota 2? Because this literally plays like dota 2 with better movement.
@@dirtiestharry6551I feel the same exact way about Dota 2
@@Thebanclub well can't argue with that. Yeah I remember that I kinda had same feeling towards dota 2 when it first came out. So I get the sentiment. It won me over as time went by though.
don't judge looks by a leaked alpha. And how the fuck do you say "dosen't PLAY like a Valve game" its not even out wtf
i was thinking it was gonna be more shooter orientated, ttk is high and a lot of emphasis on farming. excited to see it announced soon
How do you get into bot matches? I only know the cmd to get into a match with the minions.
The fact that uncle Dane helped make this happen (ON ACCIDENT) was crazy as a plot twist
Ah yes,
another game Valve will abandon
Man someone really oughta tell valve what an NDA is.
testers were under NDA, all it takes is enough people reposting leaked footage for it to become very difficult for Valve to do anything. You can litigate thousands of people posting the footage, none of whom were under NDA.
@@plushie946 Nope, i have access and no NDA, they just tell you to share nothing but thats about it
Seems like they're trying to fill the void made by Paragon.
Which is weird now that Predecessor is going strong
@@vonteliousshepherd5519 "Going strong."
...... Not sure what your definition of that is :D.
@@vonteliousshepherd5519predecessor is a miserable failure made by miserable failures
and it will shut down within two years (if theyre lucky)
Game looks interesting, obviously it doesn't look finished because...well, it isn't finished, they're still gonna change a lot of things before release.
And tbh, I might've give it a shot if I didn't know Valve was Valve.
Why would I even bother sinking hundreds of hours into this when I know cheaters are eventually gonna ruin it without much pushback from Valve?
Like, they don't care about the state of TF2 at all and aren't doing everything they could for Counter Strike, I'm sorry, but I ain't dedicating myself to competitive multiplayer games anymore, specially those made by Valve, cause these companies only want one thing *MONEY*
Valve used to be different, but that was for a very brief period of time and it was a long time ago, unless Deadlock is the game where Valve reveals a new sort of anti-cheat system I ain't gonna bother playing it, It's just gonna be a waste of time.
"Why would I even bother sinking hundreds of hours into this when I know cheaters are eventually gonna ruin it without much pushback from Valve?"
They are doing push back. The problem is that malicious people behind botting are actively updating their software MORE than actual virus creators, and even those are a pain in the ass to try to do anything about.
If they changed VAC to be Kernel-based, you will have thousands of people then bitching about "I DON'T WANT ANY ROOTKIT SOFTWARE ON MY COMPUTER", though it would help solve a chunk of said issue.
@@ThatGuyInTheBack007
I'm sorry, TF2 is literally abandoned, they fucked up the matchmaking, killed community servers, limited players ability to kick bots and just stopped trying to do anything about it for a long time, cheaters have gotten so good at updating their cheating software for Valve games BECAUSE Valve did nothing about it for a long time.
I ain't investing any time into Deadlock until they get their shit together. They'll probably just abandon it eventually anyway, I'll stick to Valve's single player games now thx, even tho they're rare.
This game will only get the TF2 treatment if it's not as much of a cash cow as CS or Dota (or at least doesn't trend that direction). Valve effectively countered cheaters in CS (premiere matchmaking is a fantastic system that more games need). Can't speak to Dota because I don't play it but my friends do and have never mentioned cheaters. The cheating problem in CS is overblown though, overwatch+premiere is a good system. It inherently filters the vast majority of cheaters into non-premiere lobbies. Otherwise VAC is a pretty flawed anti-cheat but so are pretty much all anti-cheat systems. Even Valorant/League isn't perfect, and even if they were Riot has infinite money and resources to put into anti-cheat development, and its proprietary so it's irrelevant to other game publishers anyways. You can't ask for the impossible, but I agree it has to be better than TF2 (which people seem to forget only became a problem after Valve abandoned it, thus not an issue for a new game)
It's time to grow up sadly, the time we spent playing old valve games was great, but nothing in this world is immortal, companies get greedy. It's time to do something else
Keep in mind this is kind of a spiritual successor to Dota, and Valve to this day is cooking the big ones for that game. It's honestly incredible how differently Valve treats Dota compared to CS and especially TF2.
this hame have the valve´s art style dude
don't worry guys! this game will also have a promised huge update that never comes, and valve then neglects it for bots to infest!
What I want to know is what the play testers opinions are about the game. Is it good enough to stand side by side with Valve's Dota 2 and CS2?
It’s in alpha.
@@ledgeview941 I know
From what people with access on 4chan said is that it's really fun
It's competing for the moba crowd. There is not necessarily a lot of overlap with the tactical shooter crowd (there is some, but mostly due to Steam).
The question should be whether this can compete with titles like Smite 2 and League of Legends. Knowing Valve it will blow either out of the water quality wise, so there is that.
@@ThefamousMrcroissantYou're right. From what I've seen, everyone keeps saying its another hero shooter but dont see how heavy the moba elements are.
I hope this game becomes successful, thanks for the reply!
Is this Dota combined with TF? It feels like
игра с каждым сливом выглядит все лучше и лучше
Пожалуй, однако думаю она больше понравиться дотерам и вероятно гражданам из овервотча, для средних фанов тф2 она не подойдёт предположу, меня она не заинтересовала но я вероятно дам ей шанс авось будет как с тф2 в свое время когда я начинал, тем не менее не думаю что я задержусь в ней не на долго, я не из тех кто любит потеть и получать удовольствие исключительно от надписи «победа» в конце раунда, я уже в такие игры наигрался, тем не менее надеюсь это будет хорошая игра для тех кого она сейчас привлекает
@@cucumber1955 понимаю, мне нравится тф2 за то что она олдовая и выглядит соответствующе и там эстетика и геймплей остался прежний
если бы они выпустили тф3 то боюсь там уже не было того шарма, так что пока нормик думаю
может после этой игры валв решит заняться всеми своими играми по серьезному и продвигать их
@@creepyghost928 я честно об этом не думаю, чем растягивать силы на проэкты с маленькой прибылью, куда проще и эффективнее бросить силы на работу с успешными проэктами и своим новым детищем, тф2 если что и получит то только если произойдёт чудо, я ни одного обновления не застал, самое интересное что я застал это VSH зомби режим и переход игры на 64х битную систему или как там, я бы хотел надеяться и верить но так горечь потери будет тяжелее, а так, я ничего не жду соответственно если что и будет я не разочаруюсь или не будет так же обидно как могло бы быть
NO VALVE INTRO??!?!?!?!?
I think its because the game is on Unity and not any Source engines.
@@GoibniuNihiliste I have the game. It is in source engine. I checked the files. And there IS a Valve intro
@@julianojosoa2145 oh shit. only reason I said Unity was because the SteamDb page.
@@GoibniuNihiliste me when I lie
@@GoibniuNihiliste Source 2
Valve didn't develop an engine and proceed to use the steaming pile of shit that is unity
Will this booming ??? Just make this game run smoothly on low end pc
Its worth keeping in mind this is a LEAK as in, its in alpha and the public shouldnt even know about it yet. Lots is going to change in the coming months, hopefully for the better, but who knows, we will see.
looks clean, but i wish the characters were a bit more unique. half their guns is just an automatic rifle and their 1st and ult abilities all seem to be very similar (aoe ability with effect). also, everything seems really.. chunky.. which i think works in a moba but a moba with fps elements needs a slightly higher ttk i feel. just to feel that responsiveness you'd want from the fps side. other than that, they're cooking.
It is an alpha, so chances are ALLOT is going to change over the next year or so until they release it.
Honestly though reminds me of gigantic a bit, hoping they flush more things out for sure.
character weapons and ultimates are definitely unique idk where youre getting that from.. yes a few have AOEs.... all of which function and operate in entirely different ways..
This is what Valve abandoned tf2 for? okay damn
TF2 was released in 2007. Let it go man.
blb uf[eq
looks fun to me.
the game isnt even fucking out yet god damn
@@brownie2648tf2 players are so bitter
That looks like if pvz2 and braindamaged devs had a baby
I have a question. Do you have a way to heal, like by going back to base, or can you only get back to full health via the passive regen/eventual lifesteal items or whatever
Passive healing like moba. Basically you have health regen
can you not see the creeps healing him??
@@vltraviolence7640 and that's it, nothing like League of legends' fountain, in wich you get massive health regen. Ok thanks guys
There's one healer creep per group, but otherwise you can go back to base to heal and buy improvements
So... this is like a TPS Dota
Yep, the thing people say they want, but is actually not fun to play.
i love alpha game builds.
" do not share anything about the game with anyone" xD well
A lot of angry TF2 fans in the comments need to except the fact that their 17 year old game isn’t getting updated anymore and move on
move onto what
its all dogshit
Came here from Smite. Looks interesting. Game has a lot of Smite similarities, and guess Valve has been giving Smite ex-pros/content creators access to Deadlock to test since Smite is dying. All the feedback from has been really really good and that they will probably hop to Deadlock when it comes out
This game looks boring as hell
Danteh... I'm in the beta Danteh... It's actually better than it looks Danteh... Game is only in beta... With clearly unfinished assets, have some hopium... Danteh...
@@dirtiestharry6551nah it'll fail dw
It's fun
imagine instead of some boring first person moba they made tf3 with this aesthetic and styling
tf2 doesn't need a sequel
So it seems I was right in assuming that the only devs remaining at Valve are interns
yeah icefrog is such an intern 💀💀
I need this game in my life! Thanks for the videos.
oh man get some taste
Cant wait to grind this
this is cool
Pónganle el Skin de TF2 y podrían venderlo como una secuela.
Granger is that you?
Weird, the concept looks so great but damn does it look boring as fuck to play
much more fun than you think
It's fun, got it recently
They need to remake dota into this and call it dota 3. Now.
His reload animation is so satifying to watch and listen to
adhd
welp, another leaker, soon to be gone
C tier game.
I can't wait for the hordes of cheaters in their new game))
Bro nobody wanted another Overwatch/Valorant styled game bruh
Have you actually watched the gameplay...?
Yes, and its an Overwatch/Valorant clone
@@xI-MIKE-IxDid Overwatch and Valorant have laning mechanics? Are they MOBA?
@@nicoleuswhite2192 1 unique gimmick doesn't remove the rest being more cloned hero shooter slop
No, he hasn't.
omg the mvm shop system, god the more I see of this game the better it looks
how're you playing? where's the download?
Deadlock's Twitch page is gonna be awesome!
̶T̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶F̶o̶r̶t̶r̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶3̶ Deadlock #FixTF2
bro yall already kno it got that VALVE swag on MAX
Every one of these characters look like a Overwatch skin but aight
@@TodayNot asshurt tf2 player detected
@@KnockKnockJoke99 Haven't played tf2 in literal years but go off.
This game has 0 swag tho, wnb neo-noir magical moba shooter with the valorant artstyle, so many concepts yet not a single original one.
someone PLEASE tell me how you get in
Have a friend who's in basically
Damn, TF3 looking great
Not
UI overload and damn this game just seems random af
oh its a dota game thought it would be a hero shooter.
its dota x tf2 mvm
@@DDSN there more overwatch than tf2 in this game
@@DDSN so, Battleborn?
Pls dont do this 😢 youre gonna kill smite 2
This is a moba?
Yes
Jesus Christ this looks disgustingly uninspired. If I didn't know Valve made this I'd assume it was just another bust-out trend chasing AA studio.
I think we need to accept that even if Valve is still intending to push frontiers, it's not in normal M&K gaming anymore.
Definitely not gonna play this lol #FixTF2
Ahh yes another potentially bot riddled valve game
can't wait to kick bots in it
hahaha who am I kidding I don't trust valve to touch anything they work on
why is valve making artifact 2? who wanted this?
How do u play this game my brother?
pls tell me there is gonna be skins like in cs 2
best thing in this is the main menu, rest is so unispiring
Smite x Fortnite. Yeah nah.
Valve has time for this crap but cant fix tf2?
well they have no motivation to do that when it's a free game.
17 years Bro. Let it Go.
to nobody's surprise
tf2 is a walking rotting corpse
let it go bro.. just let it go
Cry about it
Tf2 inspired Overwatch and then Overwatch inspired Deadlocked. Where is the innovation? This looks generic as hell.
Looks bland
SAVE TF2!!!
No point in playing this if Valve doesn't fix bot problem :\
This is just sad, I guarantee that once it releases, TF2 will STILL have higher average players, but won't get fixed :(
can I get a referral or invite to play this please? In severe gaming depression and need something fun to play.
gameplay is very similar to Paragon
Dota 3D
I see the bots have already made their way into this game 0:45 #FixTF2
Those are bots for an offline build. Online pvps are not allowed to be leaked
@@nicoleuswhite2192 it was a joke buddy
this is NOT replacing tf2
nobody is saying that
@@3tap alot of people are saying deadlock is going to be the real tf2 killer
@@futurep9094 it is not, it is more of a fps moba.
@@yogurtColombiano this is third person tho
@@futurep9094 tf2 is already dead lmao its got like 20k people on and 80k bots
This games looks weird, which I kind of appreciate. Kind of a BioShock infinite and dishonored aesthetic. What im not excited for is another competitive thing. I want casual shit back, like tf2. Give me a 12v12 shitfest.
This goes to the moba crowd, more specifically the DOTA side of valve or Smite, which by itself is driven by competitive feels and needs, the real motivator if you find it interesting comes if you like moba type games, tastes are varied and it's all fine.
Yo tf fusion overwatch
Really disappointing. Valve, just give us any of your franchises with a "3" at the end.
I know this game is still in Alpha but I dont see the point in making a game like this. This game will likely be F2P so it will need a sustainable player base for in game purchases. This game likely wont be better than CS2, TF2, Dota2, or any other competing multiplayer game, so it will likely be dead within the first few weeks.
I don't feel angry or disappointed...
I just feel genuinely sad and betrayed... I was such a fool to think HL: Alyx was a sign that they came back....
The fuck do you mean, this is a game that's in production. Theyre making games. If you meant a new half life series then it's also a good sign because theyre making games.
@@IllTakeThisName like Artifact?
@@desireless4092artifact was a shitty card game no one wanted this is a moba shooter made by ice frog who basically created mobas
This shit is 3rd person league of legends im kms
With valves track record, its gonna be abandoned in a year
this might be the most generic, lifeless game I've ever seen.
Looks like a flop ngl
it looks so generic and bland lmao, 0 personality
bro i am NOT playin all that
So valves ignoring tf2 over a btec valorant
#fixtf2
Another 5v5 overwatch clone. Great. WTF is valve thinking.... Just update Team Fortress ffs
This looks awful tbh. Nobody wants another hero shooter. This game will be dead in 3 months after release, if it even makes it to full release
I don't know if this game gonna be good but the sounds are annoying and repetitive ASF holy shit
Go play valorant instead, at least It's more fun than this garbage lol
This looks awful. Plain and simple..
If this game takes off they are going to let dota rot like tf2
This Game gonna flop like crazy. The market is overflow with mobas and Overwatch clones. I don't understand who give the green light to make this Game... Looks boring af
Yeah this game looks boring as all fuck dude jesus
this looks so slow and boring
garbage UI
#FixTF2
they really invite anyone to this game! you're so bad
They dont invite people based on skill, dont be upset because you were not invited. Maybe he knows someone.
This looks lame as hell