It’s unfortunate that the game deviated from a survival game to a PvP game. Don’t get me wrong, PvP is super fun, and I’m not going to shy away from a good fight, but, I do wish it wasn’t the focus. I heavily enjoy the realism/semi-realism servers, because I feel that that’s how the game was meant to be played, and it’s more enjoyable overall (for me). I’m hoping once the devs finish implementing all the things they have planned, that PoT can become what it was originally intended to be, and not be excruciatingly miserable to play as a new or solo player
Yep, it turned from dino survival with pvp to dino pvp with survival. I enjoy pvp alot i will say, but the pvp being unpredictable of where to find and when it will happen it is what i enjoy, sadly that is not the case right now. As you said, hopefully the changes they add in the future like 200 player servers can fill the map out a bit more and can possibly influence some different playstyles/mindsets :)
I think the game or more specificaly the players have gone overboard with the no rules, but I am personally all for pvp focused gameplay. Maybe I'm just a classic "official" player, but there's nothing more fun that fighting. Pvp feels a lot more fleshed out and interesting than in other similar games. It can be frustrating sometimes on official servers sometimes because of the mega packs, but I enjoy not being bound by any rules. I think this is also one of the beauties of path of titans. Because you prefer realism and semi realism you can go find a server with rules on it. Or if you're like me, you can go wreak havoc on officials to your hearts content :D. I think its just the biggest problem is just how rewarding big groups are,
Green Valley used to be popular until the devs removed the corpse that was there, because devs said it was too popular, yet they remove it and make Crater the most popular spot on the map. in my opinion waystone should be completely removed. Big quill used to have a decent population because it had a corpse
Fact that crater has replenishable water with pretty much infinite salt rocks around the pond has pretty much made the GP river barren, no one goes to drink their because they either got ganked or they're in the crater refilling the pond. Poor sarcos
Green Valley is by far much better than Grand Plains for basically anyone, it has fish for semi acuatics, berries and nishes for herbs, and the carnis can feed of criters or other players. Easily my favorite spot in the game, i have so many good memories there.
I love that when you entered IC, the allo just began stalking you, then the rex rushed u without reason and all IC (including the eo's) attacked u. "Free trophy," someone said, but everyone gets a free trophy if they do a 7v1.
You have 3 choices to survive: 1. Make a group yourself, thus becoming the problem 2. Playing a small dinosaur with a lot of speed and stamina but good luck trying to kill anything with more than 3000 combat weight and has competency in the game 3. Quitting the game and finding something else to play. But the other 2 options in the long run will result in option 3 becoming the next step unless Alderon addresses the core issues of the game. That being foot traffic or lack thereof, the advantages of being in a group vs solo, waystones, lack of content besides PvP. Currently this game is very boring.
I've played in these groups before, its kind of why i'm speaking out on this topic, i've told people don't go to hotspots solo if you don't want to die, specifically the crater, find another place to find people, not the "dedicated" pvp zone as it has turned into(my opinion). But if you can't find people elsewhere, you're just playing single player with a chatbox at that point. Hopefully the future changes like 200 player servers and other core things can push more map traffic and influence some different playstyles/mindsets :)
@@hunyadacrazy I highly doubt the 200 players thing is going to fix the issue. If anything there will be even more people concentrated at the hotspots. Youre right about the waystones, they need to either make it extremely expensive OR its a one and done type deal where if you use it once you have to replenish it with mushrooms.
Replenish quests should be removed all together honestly; it would force people to move in search of water or stay and risk death. Also wholeheartedly agree on your points on the waystone system, imo it’s quite fun to actually meet up my group in a location that suits us all instead of just using ws
I haven't played PoT for weeks now because of these issues here and partly because of my social anxiety flaring up. I'm either forced into groups with randoms or I'm forced to fight usually at least 4 people at a time by myself (and someone who's only been playing since the Gondwa update) which is one that always makes me incredibly angry. It's so genuinely hard to find fair fights, even as Thal I just get immediately targeted by multiple Quetz on community servers. You're one of the only people I watch about this game, I'm glad that a noob like myself can feel the exact same way about PoT as you do. These issues really need to be fixed because it's made me so put off playing even with my bf who is the only one who occasionally joins me.
If you want a server with not a lot of mods and pretty decent rules you can try Life Finds a Way, it’s a semi-realism server and has great admins who can help newish players, rules are pretty ok if you like solo or group gameplay, mixpacking to a certain extent, etc. The same 2 parties can’t interfere more than 3 times, etc. I’m mainly a solo player myself and would love to welcome others to the server, please consider stopping by if you want! Also death penalty is 25% of your current growth FYI (adult (dies) = back to sub-adult)
I’ve pulled away a bit from PoT because of the issues you showed in this video. It’s really frustrating when you explore the whole map only to be forced to go to IC because that’s where everyone is. Then you finally get there and there’s usually a massive group that’s bored out of their minds and decides to kill the first person not in their group that enters IC. Absolutely frustrating. I just haven’t been enjoying the game as much once the oooh new game feeling went away. I’m tired of dying to massive KOS groups where no skill is needed and there’s no way for me to defend against it. 🤷🏻♀️
I think part of the problem is making the maps so dang big with less food/water sources. The biomes are so varied and interesting, but it takes ages to get anywhere with the threat of starving so people teleport and gravitate towards areas that are obvious fighting rings (the largest bodies of water in Panjura and the giant crater in Gondwa) even when there are tons of hidden gems of places to explore. It's worse on Panjura which has more samey biomes and isn't surrounded by ocean to reduce the travel time, though there are more survival resources, while Gondwa has the opposite problem; slightly quicker navigation but less resources, ironically keeping people in the same spots where they know they'll find food. There's not much that will stop folks from focusing on PvP, but by making the maps smaller it would at least be easier to run into people and explore different areas without crowding one spot. I only ever play on semi-realism or full realism servers, since it adds another layer to the game beyond just growing and PvP, but the gameplay does still get stale when you can't find anyone else.
In my honest opinion, Waystone should be a luxury, not some core feature people are encouraged to use. This is a multiplayer game that depends a lot on its population, as you have said. As such, any feature that enables people to not be part of this population should be extremely expensive. I would say, Waystoning should cost way more. Like... 1000 marks from the get go, which then increases with every use heavily. Two friends who just want to play together will grind those 1000 marks to play together. But an entire group will run out of marks in a flash or spend most of their time questing, that will put them 'out there' again.
My pricing idea was more to incentivise it still being useful for smaller groups like 2-3 players but inconvienient for larger groups to sit on an area. It is a luxury but i wouldnt wanna make it undesirable to use.
@@hunyadacrazy Then perhaps the incredible startup cost of 1000 marks should only apply to players waystoning into a location they died at within x amount of time (on any dino). To prevent revenge killing. The devs are trying to crack down on it but waystoning makes all their efforts into a laughing stock. OR block waystoning into a location they died at for x amount of time. On every dino on their account.
i am a official panjura player through and through so pvp is kinda my whole thing, ive seen alot of people cry about how herbis can attack carnis or t rex should oneshot everything n such, well i agree with you and alot of people in this comment section i feel like people want this game to become some walking survival sim with some ultra realistic mechanics, some people have to realize that there are other people playing the game and its not just AI filled game world- not everyone wants to be in some nat doc rp and some people wanna just have a hard survival experience. hopefully in the future where they add more gamemodes or something both types of players can play the game they love without leaving out the other.
First time viewer of your channel. I've been playing almost a year now on and off. I have every dino to adult even kai. The biggest issues with the official come down to 3 reasons that I can see. 1) The devs killed the other hotspots in the game. When I started BQL, GV, YG, HT/SG and IC/GP use to be the main spots. The devs killed BQL and recently GV which pushed everyone to the North part of the map. YG occasionally has people there but its always IC/GP and HT/SG that have massive groups or mixpackers there. 2) Theres no admins or any consequences for playing unfair(mixpacking) or griefing players. If they actually did something to mixpacking maybe that wouldn't be all everyone runs into. 3) There's no options in endgame but to fight. If they added in more aquatics the ocean would maybe fill up more and then spread out players or give people like me something to grind now. They should have focused on quest first in my opinion over combat update. Edit: GH was hyped to be the southern GP but they removed all the herb bushes except 1...like why. GH was more popular before they changed it.
Oh welcome mate :) I don't usually make videos like this being more negative. I'm usually just messing around having fun. I may be also running off nostalgia of seeing all the hotspots getting good attention regularly. The other more positive side to this would be a pachy video from a few days ago to add more context to the fast vs slow section of this video :)
I would say this is a problem on both maps, no one walks around the map anymore. Those that do, are either those avoiding big groups or smaller groups who can't fight the bigger groups. WS is indeed to cheap as groups usually have a fast dino parked there at the WS to bring them back if they die and will just keep doing so until you die; even if they run out of marks they are fast dinos like a Raptor so they can get the quest done quickly. Another thing that also doesn't help is those said groups will switch servers all the time. So instead of walking around the map they will just switch servers to fight people who are in that area on another server and then do it all over again until they get wiped, bored or log for the day. Which adds onto your points.
I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing the lack of players in the between spaces in the map and even some hot spots are becoming empty except ic and GP. And most people I do see in the between areas run or keep their distance but IC is a different story you will have almost any thing attacking you all the time. But I do have luck as my ano in those areas even groups of Rex will leave me alone but that might be because im an ano lol.
I started playing pretty recently. I mostly play solo. You're right pretty much about everything. In my opinion, the waystone's cost should be increased by a lot or they should even get removed. Devs should also remove most of the corpses around the map, same with salt rocks and berries. Make people fight for the food - if they die more often, they respawn in a random location more and have to travel (therefore they're encountering more players). Gondwa map is way better designed than Panjura, there are less small water sources that are just safe to drink from and there are more long rivers. I personally like the survival feel in Evrima, when drinking you must always be very cautious because of the crocs. Devs went in a good direction regarding the map. I just wish the croc's charged attack in this game didn't make any noise when underwater. This game definitely needs 200 or even more people per server. This should be a priority now for devs, not adding new dinos. The map is huge, it's designed for way higher amount of players. Generally, game has potential but I'm not sure if the devs realise what is important to fix/change and what is not.
Fr tho that’s why I play carnivore and try to 1v1 any herbivore I can see that I can fight. Even in a non1v1 fight like an allo vs a pachy pack I’m in for because herbivores are just carnivores with a taste for golden metal. Aka rex teeth spino fingers and even other herbivore body parts
Suggested ways we can fix IC groups 1: Get rid of Replenishing Quest 2: Add a HC there. Since the Debuff would stop camping the area entirely.(But would be problematic for questing) 3: Get rid of the way stones force players to traverse the map and that would increase foot traffic and encourage less area camping. What do you think of those ideas?
1. The replenish quest there is too easy as there are like infinite salt rocks there, they're also close to the replenish spot, i would move the salt rocks along the walls of crater or maybe ontop of the cliffs to make it a bit more tedious. But i was also thinking about getting rid of the replenish quest there. 2. I dont think we need another homecave personally, hotspots have their uses but being super easy to sustain yourself there is a problem if there is no pvp. 3. I wouldnt wanna remove the option of waystones personally, i would prefer to increase the price from the starting point like my example in the video as smaller groups can still waystone 2 people for 300 marks with the first on being free. It was to incentivise more players into smaller groups to thrive while making bigger groups put more effort in for the actions they are already doing.
@@hunyadacrazy Yeah good point the idea was just to make it more realistic and but if they did take away the video game side of things it would annoy more players then anything. It’s very hard to figure out a solution but your ideas do sound great!
This is why I play realism servers with rules and group sizes and NO MIX PACKING and some of these servers I play on have territories so it forces people to be more spread out
It's incredible how little has changed from when this video released to now, though I should probably be replacing the word 'incredible' with 'depressing'.
I play solo. I have almost every dino and imo the most annoying part of this game is walking for 30 mins just to run into 6 mixpackers who are all on coms on discord probably and get absolutely wrecked to spawn on the other side of the map
It just feels like the Devs doesn't even care about the players feedback, this Gondwa map now has lot of problems. 1. Hotspots, They gathered up to one popular place like IC and GP.wished the Devs could figure out something for that. 2. Mixpacking/Mixpackers, Like in the video they just become annoying and bullies (4:59 Hunya sufferings) 3. Dinosaur being balanced or not, The Devs just could give nerfs or buffs to dinosaurs like Trex being trashed now. Gets to the point where herbivores are likely are stronger than most carnivores. I agree with what Hunya said in the video, and looks like SimplyAmazing made a video about the game aswell. The problems and the solution are in the Devs hand. Hope they can fix it. -Guy that suffered
How people play on officials in terms of mixpacking and stuff associated with that i'm personally not bothered by, i can accept a no rules server. I care more about what the game influences. Balancing issues are ever changing and will always be around in any game ever with pvp, i chose not to talk about balance for that reason 😂 I know how the calculation for damage in pvp (how to find out how much damage everything does to everything). Seems pointless to talk about balance in my situation when i dont have access to the PTB when that is active 😅 I don't watch simplyamazing anymore, along with other things (i will not speak about sorry), after he nerfed old campto on his own server after i killed his dasp with one (took multiple attempts over a few days), I feel we see different situations in the game.
Bro not finding people is always an issue I have with community servers. Maybe its about time of day, cuz i dont think ive ever been alone in any area of an official server map for more than 20 mins
I feel like every time I play on Gondwa I can grow a Dino wherever I want because I know where half the server is. I never found crater to be enjoyable and for everyone to be located in one section of the map makes servers very laggy. You can't enjoy playing the ocean Dinos because you will see no one for hours, carnivores are useless solo because of huge herds, and if u do somehow get a carni duo then you HAVE to play gp or gv otherwise you will have to live off of corpses.
There is no solution, only to play on realism servers were there are rules. The game is simply too barebones to adress this issues in any proper or timely manner. Having said that, removing Home Caves, Waystones and Trophies is the only fast and obvious fix but it is also obvious why the devs would shy away from removing content they worked to create in the first place. The only other reasonable thing to do would be to reduce the amount of growth from trophies and increasing the death penalty. That way people will be less motivated to camp hotspots and kos and less willing to take unnecessary risks like fighting an elephant with a puddle or revenge killing.
Yeah, this is the reason I play semi realism or servers with maybe a couple extra rules that make people spread a little more. Of course the hotspots are still popular but without group caps or making hotspots safezones all no rule pvp servers become walking and dying to a megapack simulator. I love pvp but hate just being ganged up on 20x in the same place over and over. Gets frustrating as solo.
I understand that, i'm fine with how people play but care about how the game influences players to play. Like my idea for waystones keeps them in the game and usable, but just a bit more incovienient to add more effort to certain things.
Duos and trios i can live with pretty comfortably in the game, some dinos are designed to be in groups, alot of the time they know what they can and cant get away with, but aren't an unstoppable force.
Seeing videos like this only makes me wish an AI update happened WAY before these repeated combat/map updates. A LOT of indie games with very big scopes do this. Have players fight each other and they'll make their own content and you can extend development time. However it's been so long that's all this game really is. Either you play on a server with a list of rules as long as the bible, or you get trapped in mixpack hell. Them playing keep away with the corpses isn't helping anything. Stick some damn AI dinos in the game so everyone isn't so tired of picking up pinecones that they'll chase after anything that moves like crazed zombies.
The main problem of the game is that it doesn't benefit solo players unless you are playing fast weak dinos. Another problem is that the game takes away your progress if you die after so many hours spent grinding to become adult.
On officials the thing i hate most is the mix packing and massive groups against a solo player, I'd love if the devs would put something in place so that doesn't happen for example if theres 3 pachys, 2 eos, a rex and ano obvs not all of them can fit in one group so say 3 pachys and an eo are in a group if they attacked you noone else can! it doesn’t do damage just the group your fighting would be so much easier for solo players and would stop mix packing and massive groups and if theres a solo player fighting you noone else can join to help them 🤷♀️ would make it alot more easier for solo players, just an idea 🤷♀️ but they need to do something 😊
I think making bodies and bushes giving less food and bushes giving less food would help this more personally, people can casually do the giant groups because they can sustain themselves way to easily, this would also push more people to migrate in search to sustain themself which in turn will also create more natural encounters :)
Heya Hunya :) thought I comment for once since ive been watching your videos a lot lately. Im a Official Gondwa player only haha, but I tend to avoid fighting and only look at fights and not participate xD Mostly play Thalass, Kaiwheka and my Metri, also have a adult Iggy and Spino but theyre just for chilling and helping new players. Idk I just dont like fightin at all :(
IMO there're 2 things that could help out against hotspots and all the annoying things that come with them, those being AI dinos and a revamp at least the location visiting quests for now until they revamp the entire quest system. In my personal opinion I feel that most carnivores go to hotspots for both food and general fighting, which could easily be remedied by spreading AI Dinosaurs throughout the map, the burrow creatures just don't cut it, once most carnis hit subadult the amount of food critters give is just not enough, so of course they tend to try to congregate in areas with a lot of fighting going on to get their food easy, and most herbies(at least IMO) want to fight in open, easily accessible areas which end up becoming hotspots when these 2 groups meet, with IC and GV being near many spawn zones on Gondwa and SLL and CC on Panjura being nice and central which is perfect since that map tends to spawn you all around the edges(the map spawns on both of these maps contribute to hotspots is what I'm trying to say). With both AI Dinos being spread out to allow carnivores to explore more while feeling confident about hunger and herbies wanting to fight with their unique forms of defense, this could easily lead to these groups spreading out and encounters being way more frequent. Location quests being revamped to, say for example, give you bonus objectives to do certain things in the areas like eat, drink, and hunt/quest, this would encourage players to engage with those specific quests more which of course lead them to spending even more time in these areas. Just to clarify a bit, I know there are already objectives for each area that you visit specifically, but I think giving bonus worthwhile rewards for doing extra more time consuming tasks in areas like, say, "Hunt 5 AI Dinos in Savannah Grasslands"(more basic dinos like megs, Concs, Lambeos, Iguanodons, and as a bit of a fun challenge Camptos, wouldn't want to pick up this quest as a Dasp and have to kill rexes and spinos for example, also make them able to be snuck up on so the slower carnis can catch the Camptos and Concs) or "Clear roots and branches to make room for nesting grounds in Rainbow Hills"(not just the sit there and spam a button kind of interactions, but a pick up stuff and set them down outside of an outlined area kind of thing). Maybe at the end have a hungry and desperate carni like a low health allo arrive that you have to kill, obviously the carni can vary depending on what herbi you are, like Camptos getting Deinonychus and Laten, all the way up to Eo and Bars getting a desperate low health Rex or Spino) could be a great change for dinosaur placement around the map along with a start to making the game a lot more engaging! I love this game especially since I don't have a PC and can't just switch to the other dino survival games, it hurts me to see this game making huge mistakes like these, the questing system is one of if not the most unique thing about this game, and IMO it is so underdeveloped and utilized. The combat updates and newer dinos like Pycno and Thal are cool and all, but at the end of the day you should be able to have fun throughout the entirety of the game, not just after doing hours of tedious boring quests until you get to be adult and be forced to go to a hotspots to eat a full meal or just be entertained with the presence of other dinos. Sorry for the long comment but I wanted to give some ways I personally think this game could really shine in the gameplay loop of officials, you know it's bad when I was more excited for the modded Maip to come out than I am waiting for the official Hatz, Euhrino, and combat updates to come out. I would love to see Alderon really ramp up their development of PoT and give us some cool stuff by the end of the year/start of next year like a Panjura overhaul(that map is so dead, shame cause I like the vibes of it being a Redwoods esque landmass and not an island like every other dino survival game), AI dinos(just give them a detection system, fight or flight depending on the species, and more things to do besides walk around or doing idle animations like eating, drinking, sleeping etc.), or a quest system overhaul(more engaging tasks with a better sense of accomplishment and make them carnivore/herbivore themed like AI dino hunts or nest prep and helping to re-fertilize land that has been stripped by other herbivores), if they push themselves and listen to the community closely they could have one of if not the best dinosaur survival games in their hands. Edit: totally forgot to mention solo play, yeah I have this problem with both official and modded dinos, just a bit of a difference between these two. For official, they are going a step in the right direction with the solo buffs to dinos like Pycno and Kentro, I just think all creatures should have buffs for both solo and groups, but just don't have the group buffs be obviously better than the solo buffs. But instead of making the solo buffs better leading to "solo groups", just make the solo buff 3/4ths or more equal to the group buff stacked in the amount expected in a group(like the 4 stacking ceratopsian buff on Eo Albert and Styra, so basically the solo buff would be as powerful as a 3 stack of that buff to discourage solo grouping), don't just make group roars but solo roars too, it's a crime that they made Tyrant's Roar not work while not in a group. While irrelevant, my main problem with modded dinos is that mod teams don't seem to either want to cater to solos or think about catering to solos because I swear all the modded creatures I've seen have group focused buffs and roars but no solo focused buffs or roars(prime example, how the PT team massacred my favorite dino Yutyrannus by turning it into a group buffing dino (it was the apex predator in it's habitat btw, not that its real life counterpart should influence how they develop it), also they should really make more modded herbivores, having only Sauropods or one offs like Theri or Para kinda sucks ngl.
This was a very interesting read mate :) I agree with pretty much everything on the questing being underutilized so far and you had some interesting ideas for what you would change and how you would tie other parts of the game together :) As for the solo grouping, alot of groups do this not only for the solo buff of the dinos that have it, but also because the group combat timer has stopped all group healing, so now they can heal while their friends fight, the solo buff is more like the cherry ontop to push them even further over the edge. I would recommend x zaguer's video on path of titans nesting, that also has some pretty interesting ideas on AI, questing ect... Also.... kill all yutys
Some people are at times in Green Vally but it all depends whos on, most places usually it will be, gp, ic, gv, dl , ive had a lot of rare occurrence of hunted down by a eo and two pachy in stego canyon as a adol bars some how i ran into two sty that saved me , kinda sucks though wish people would travel more places but gondwa is better than panjura but its still fun to grow a dino on the map currently gonna grow my pachy on their and roam around the Death Lake only way to grow 😅 , great video and I also watch Kent the Gent he's awesome, usually only stay in ic if its a decent group but if its bullies well I cause chaos easy to do that as a chaotic pachy current favorite targets are rexs, spinos, ic sarcos, ophis's but really interested in hunting a stego as a pachy so hopefully one day.
Hopefully future changes like 200 player servers push more traffic across the map and influence some different playstyles/mindsets. We have an entire map and yet i mainly see people around a damn fish bowl 😅
They only want to force people to PvP Removing Corpses, missions of killing Herbies, not having rules like at all, mix packers, max packers..its just not fun anymore.
Another thing is how they change dinosaurs statistics everytime there's an update, I hope they'll finish the game soon, because like this is..not the greatest. And most importantly: A version with rules like the community servers, that would be great
Games broke because of over sized packs, most of the map is empty. Needs 200server size. Im not sure how it will work out in the future we will see how they implement their own small pvp map groups but atm i have all dinos and it just camt compete with other games im playing. Even though i love pot i can get great pvp on lol and it will be balanced with player count at least.
Maybe my perspective isnt the same, and I'll see this more often, but as it stands for me I've rarely gone through a location on my growing herbs that hasn't had a significant population. I never go to IC because its full of spergs, and there isn't enough water to drown those horses. I frequent BTC, YG, HT, TF, and sometimes SM, RB, BF, and GP. I play exclusively on NA servers, because that tends to give me less lag (no one should be expecting smooth connections with people across the planet, but, again, thirsty horses). But it's not perfect, and obviously I don't ALWAYS see people. But, I don't know, I just haven't noticed the "population crisis" a lot have. Maybe it's because I am growing babies, and so am more acutely aware of something near me because it means growth or lost progress. Your Waystone idea definitely needs to reach the Devs somehow, it's a fantastic way to help cut this encounter drought while not ruining player choice.
I'll have to start growing my iggy on official to see if i get that change in mindset xD Again with the horses, love it xD The correction arrows i put over the price scaling were originally double the price of what i showed in the video, but i thought that would be too harsh, i want it to be a bit more incovienient to push players into another method instead of making the method pretty much unusable.
@@hunyadacrazyIt's a fine line between solving the issue, and making a whole new one. Hopefully they do at least something, 'cause as it stands it isn't workin'.
This is why I don’t play officials often. Yeah yeah, no rules, yeah yeah, players can play however but if everything you see just instantly homes in on you like a missle for a simple trophy and then play toxic in chat then I’m out. No reason for this sort of bull crap in a dino game.
You might not want to throw shade at people for how they choose to play the game but you know and I know and everyone with a brain knows that bully squads and kos mixpackers literally ruin the game for almost everyone else (less than six minutes in this video you called it annoying) and I for one am going to hold trolls and griefers accountable for their choices, regardless of what the game "supposedly" encourages with it's mechanics. Remember that not everyone plays the game the same way, therefore when someone does something toxic or detrimental to the gameplay experience they are making a conscious choice to do so and they should not be allowed to do so without some level of consequence, bare minimum social shaming since the game devs don't seem interested in fixing blatant exploitative game mechanics. Being nice to bad people does not make things better, whether it's in real life or a video game. People choose to spend their real actual finite time on this earth playing this game so yes it actually is a pretty big deal if they can't enjoy it and they end up regretting wasting their money and time that they can never ever get back, and I blame not only the game devs but also the low lifes that selfishly take away from the experience from other people and, ultimately, from themselves. I guarantee they would have more fun doing something else and so would everyone else, they are just not creative enough to figure that out
okay so idk where you got the pricing on the waystone but it currently is 150 then 300, 600, 1.2k then 2.4k if you ask me i think the pricing is just fine, maybe remove the 150 price and just start at 300, I think they just need to rearrange the ws placement making it more difficult to travel, such as Wc ws is literally right next to IC, instead put it more closer to hc but south and what you were saying about IC basically having infinite water, i agree! i believe they should reduce the amount of salt rock available but instead they added another salt rock AND its closer to the restoration-_-.
Stego. Es un muy buen dino. Yo jugaba con uno antigua mente y me iba muy bien. Pero dejé de usarlo por 2 motivos. 1) Me gusta más Miragallia. 2) Soy mas de ankys.
Soo I see 🎶mountain Stego🎶 Didn’t work out too well XD That fucking timing was so bad. 1 maybe 2 is definitely handable but 4 on a steg is definite death.
There were some parts on that looked loke i would be able to climb, the first sucho blocked off my next move to get up 😂 I wouldnt have wond the fight, but i would have done a bit more if i didn't go up there 😂
Yep, its pretty impossible to enjoy this game unless you play a medium Dino that has speed and stamina I just play Pachy and fuck around with Apex carnis lmao, i just agitate them with constant kicking and headbutts, and they run away
They just need to find ways to de-incentivize cooperation between herbis and carnis. Maybe group limits could be a lot stricter? Small buffs applying when you group with your own species? I don't see why you'd need to be in a 20 person megapack even if you're terrible at the game.
They already do but players just do it anyway. For example the game does not allow carnis and herbis to be grouped together. Players just use discord or something similar to communicate and mixpack anyway just not technically in a group.
@@Benanarama. Yea, I understand that terrible people will always exploit freedom to their advantage (why we have rules in the first place) but that's why I suggest incentives because otherwise there isn't much the devs can do without making rules like a realism server does.
I always encounter this groups like in clip 1. Everywhere i go. That is so not fun at all. The only dino i have an adult off is a Thala. All the others i startet got killed by these groups. Im just a Bebe :( And Also: AaAarGgh
Yea dying isnt fun, but not being able to even have a chance to do anything is frustrating, its the game that pushed this kind of thing. Hopefully the future changes like 200 player servers and the like will push players into more areas and perhaps different playstyles/mindsets :) Also:😂
Would be nice if there comes some changes with this update. Im a very chill player with herbie and like to roam around in peace. If i play a carnie, obviously i need to attack someone from time to time. But even that you cant do without getting swarmed by a giant mixpack.@@hunyadacrazy
Fr tho I played my allo a bit ago and I’m a solo carni player, was about 2/3 food and spotted a dasp heading out of crater towards me. Killed it, and a lamb, pycno, and another big creature all came towards me from deeper in the crater. There’s absolutely no reason all if that should’ve happened for a creature that ISNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO PACK WITH THOSE. Carni with carni and herbi with herbi is fine but when you get swarmed for simply trying to survive it’s just dumb. Solo carnivore players in particular are just not viable unless they want to live off of ai or play a server with rules. For the survival aspect that is.
@@dtbrex08 oh yes solo carni experience is torture. Groups ruin the survival aspect, like you said solo carni is horrible you kill one thing because you are hungry 1v1 which is fair right and you only killed for food. Then all of a sudden you realise you killed someone who has friends on the server or is part a bigger mixpack nearby then you are screwed, you will lose hours of progress and good luck trying to quest anywhere near that area as they usually try to find and kill you over and over. This makes the game boring, punishing and tbh totally pointless to play
@@TafTabTah fair enough, i can understand that, i care more about not being able to find anything outside of 2 main areas, hopefully the devs get the servers right for 200 players and we see more people
@hunyadacrazy I wish the game was more than fetch quests. PvP is awesome but until you reach Adult your mostly doing fetch quest until the real fun begins I hope the devs add new aspects to leveling your dino over adding higher player counts
@@TafTabTah yea there isnt much to do other than fight when adult, i would recommend you watch the channel "x zaguer"s last video on the idea of nesting in path of titans, it's a very interesting video :)
This is why I like and hate PoT. It's fun to dominate mixpackers but at the same time it's still annoying to fight them regardless. I just wish this game made more intresting pvp interactions and make a system that punishes megapackers
Solo in oficials? You mean Hell? 😂 Tbh ive played on officials once, and that was when i first bought the game, i find community servers much more enjoyable. Also idk what’s in the mind of those players that will jump everything they see on groups.
I played pretty much only officials since console launch, i dabbled here and there with community servers but officials was where you could find me. There's 2 things that possibly go through the mind of big groups when they spot a solo in the area they are holding. 1 is fun to kill something. 2 is paranoia of this solo betraying them if they accept it 😂
I’m sorry but you had enough stam to outrun everything but the pachy buddy I’ve seen a Mixpack get slapped by a Stego because the chase. Stego is too squishy to stop moving like that
@@hunyadacrazy you are balanced Stego? Try out speed it’ll give you just enough distance to make it back to hc from Apexes from Crater plus most mixpackers have 0 skills
@@pofuuu stego kinda relies on obstacles to be able to fight, like rocks, forests ect... This is because of the long animation on attacks with being slender enough to weave between stuff that other dinos are more likely to get caught on, as you can still swing through all that stuff. I went to crater because i was bored from not seeing many other players, solo stego is just not made for open areas i feel
I am normally a big fan of your videos but this one hit a little different. I only play official and spend VERY little time at or near the crater and I see action every single session. You start the video saying not to complain how people have their fun then spend the next 30 minutes complaining how other people are having their fun. A couple things to keep in mind I think...1. Even if 30 dinos are running around IC that leaves 50+ around the rest of the map (I'm not sure I ever even really see near that many at IC at once, except for very rare occasions) 2. Running into someone doesn't only require you be in the same location but there at the same time as well. How often do you think its possible you just missed other dinos in various areas by minutes or even seconds, or maybe since you're playing on official they were just hiding when they saw a full grown Stego waltz into the area looking like it was ready for a fight? - which is exactly what I would have done if I was on anything other than an adult myself or something I absolutely knew could outrun you as a bby. There are 27 biomes on Gondwa according to PoT Wiki. With 80ish players on a server, that means even if every zone had even traffic there would be less than 3 dinos per biome at a time...what are the chances you'd run into one of them just passing through? If your solution to that is more slots per server then consider people already complain about the server tick, so what do you think adding more people to a server will do? I absolutely agree megapacks and dino-switching are a problem for the state of the game and more should/could be done to prevent this, but it would take someone smarter than me to figure out how to do this effectively and to think there wouldn't be hotspots and dead areas just because they remove WS or IC is short sighted at best. Also I'd argue hotspots are a good thing in that, if you want action you KNOW where to go to get it, and if you want to level semi-peacefully you KNOW where NOT to go. Also, WS are a way to help prevent the possibility of coming across another megapack when you're just trying to get back to a friend to make up for lost growth after the last megapack came through your area and you only have a limited amount of time to play to begin with. Literally EVERY issue I see people have about official can be easily fixed by finding a community with the rules you like and there are plenty out there - or you know, just play smarter, ignore chat and stay away from IC? The ONLY exception to this would be server tick/hitbox stuff.
Players play the way they play because that is what the game has pushed them to do to have fun in the game's current situation. I have also not called for any rules. The only clip where i genuinely complained about how someone played was the first clip, especially with the chat afterwards, i'll hold my hands up for that. The rest of the complaints are back to what i've seen as the game pushing players to do for their fun. In referencing my pachy video i encountered people in each of the hotspots, saying that what i experienced on pachy for that server contradicted what i experienced on stego. This is why i kept referencing pachy and stego. I saw people in all of the hotspots on pachy in 1 server where as i saw around the same amount of people over 3 servers on stego. I never said to remove the waystone, i said increase the price to inconvienience big groups and possibly push more people into walking instead of teleporting everywhere. More foot traffic or atleast more effort from the big packs to do what they are already doing with the current price of the waystones, taking away the option of using waystones is not a good move and i never said to do that. 200 players would obviously push more map traffic, i would not sacrifice the tickrate for that, which is why i didn't mention more server slots or tickrate in the video. I will agree with your case of not spending enough time in zones and only doing the quests and moving on right away wasnt good for getting a better chance at encounters. Waltzing into a zone, i get that i didn't attack any thing i DID see but any player who spots me first ain't gonna know that, so yea some probably hid, cant trust anyone n all, understandable. To finish up, i explained what the situation is currently from my perspective, i'm not telling anyone to change how they play, advising on how to have an easier time and what i think would be a good step in the right direction for the game.
Having to find a community run server to enjoy the game is not a fix. Also your answer is to play smarter, ignore chat and basically stay away from an area you know you will see somebody. That is an incredibly boring way to play a multiplayer survival game. You might as well just do single player at that point. And if you just do single player all your doing is chores to grow a virtual dino to have zero end game content other than walking around. If that's your idea of a fun game well I feel sorry for you. Why must it be KOS everyone in groups or avoid any interaction ever?? This is why people are frustrated its either non stop sweaty boring fighting or a dinosaur walking sim with some basic chore quests. Why are you so willing to accept this and defend it? You deserve better for your money early access or not.
@@Benanarama. im guessing from the accusation of wanting waystones removed, the video was skimmed through, otherwise we have had different experiences. They have their own knowledge that comes along with that. Also with the fact i'm not too experienced with explaining my more critical views on things, it could have come across to them in a different way than i intended :)
@@hunyadacrazy I definitely could have done a better job clarifying a few things. It was already a bit much and I wasn't trying to create even more of a wall of text. I assure you, I watched the whole thing. As I said, I am a big fan of yours. I understand you didn't say you wanted WS removed but making them prohibitively expensive is effectively the same thing and it was also partially in response to other comments I read. Mark farming can already be a pita for the average player. Making it harder prohibits them far more than the no-lifers who already abuse the system, and will inevitably find a way to abuse the same system that is just more expensive. It's just what they do. That is an issue that can be experienced across ANY game with PvP - those who have nothing better to do will always find a way to give themselves any advantage they can, ethics or morals be damned. The gaming industry as a whole struggles with this exact thing and punishing the majority for the actions of the minority is never the way to go. I absolutely agree that some of the things you outlined are indeed problems, I just don't agree with your proposed solutions. It does indeed also seem we have different experiences when we play as a whole which may be why I don't think some are problems at all.
@@mikecheka1 yep, these kinda talks have a tendancy to become essays, but it's good to have them regardless. Without being too nitpicky, my idea of waystone pricing was to push for more smaller groups(around 2-3 player packs/herds) along with pushing the larger groups to put more effort. But yes there is a way around everything to those who are willing to do it. Interesting talk with ya mate :)
It’s unfortunate that the game deviated from a survival game to a PvP game. Don’t get me wrong, PvP is super fun, and I’m not going to shy away from a good fight, but, I do wish it wasn’t the focus. I heavily enjoy the realism/semi-realism servers, because I feel that that’s how the game was meant to be played, and it’s more enjoyable overall (for me). I’m hoping once the devs finish implementing all the things they have planned, that PoT can become what it was originally intended to be, and not be excruciatingly miserable to play as a new or solo player
Yep, it turned from dino survival with pvp to dino pvp with survival.
I enjoy pvp alot i will say, but the pvp being unpredictable of where to find and when it will happen it is what i enjoy, sadly that is not the case right now.
As you said, hopefully the changes they add in the future like 200 player servers can fill the map out a bit more and can possibly influence some different playstyles/mindsets :)
I think the game or more specificaly the players have gone overboard with the no rules, but I am personally all for pvp focused gameplay. Maybe I'm just a classic "official" player, but there's nothing more fun that fighting. Pvp feels a lot more fleshed out and interesting than in other similar games. It can be frustrating sometimes on official servers sometimes because of the mega packs, but I enjoy not being bound by any rules. I think this is also one of the beauties of path of titans. Because you prefer realism and semi realism you can go find a server with rules on it. Or if you're like me, you can go wreak havoc on officials to your hearts content :D. I think its just the biggest problem is just how rewarding big groups are,
Green Valley used to be popular until the devs removed the corpse that was there, because devs said it was too popular, yet they remove it and make Crater the most popular spot on the map. in my opinion waystone should be completely removed.
Big quill used to have a decent population because it had a corpse
Fact that crater has replenishable water with pretty much infinite salt rocks around the pond has pretty much made the GP river barren, no one goes to drink their because they either got ganked or they're in the crater refilling the pond. Poor sarcos
Green Valley is by far much better than Grand Plains for basically anyone, it has fish for semi acuatics, berries and nishes for herbs, and the carnis can feed of criters or other players.
Easily my favorite spot in the game, i have so many good memories there.
I love that when you entered IC, the allo just began stalking you, then the rex rushed u without reason and all IC (including the eo's) attacked u. "Free trophy," someone said, but everyone gets a free trophy if they do a 7v1.
They acted very uninterested until i got away from one of the exits funnily xD
You have 3 choices to survive:
1. Make a group yourself, thus becoming the problem
2. Playing a small dinosaur with a lot of speed and stamina but good luck trying to kill anything with more than 3000 combat weight and has competency in the game
3. Quitting the game and finding something else to play. But the other 2 options in the long run will result in option 3 becoming the next step unless Alderon addresses the core issues of the game.
That being foot traffic or lack thereof, the advantages of being in a group vs solo, waystones, lack of content besides PvP.
Currently this game is very boring.
I've played in these groups before, its kind of why i'm speaking out on this topic, i've told people don't go to hotspots solo if you don't want to die, specifically the crater, find another place to find people, not the "dedicated" pvp zone as it has turned into(my opinion).
But if you can't find people elsewhere, you're just playing single player with a chatbox at that point.
Hopefully the future changes like 200 player servers and other core things can push more map traffic and influence some different playstyles/mindsets :)
@@hunyadacrazy I highly doubt the 200 players thing is going to fix the issue. If anything there will be even more people concentrated at the hotspots.
Youre right about the waystones, they need to either make it extremely expensive OR its a one and done type deal where if you use it once you have to replenish it with mushrooms.
4. Switch to community servers
@@no-mu2qx 5. Get perma banned and lose hundreds of hours due to a power hungry admin.
Replenish quests should be removed all together honestly; it would force people to move in search of water or stay and risk death. Also wholeheartedly agree on your points on the waystone system, imo it’s quite fun to actually meet up my group in a location that suits us all instead of just using ws
Replenish quests is the reason most people have expensive skins 😂😂
I haven't played PoT for weeks now because of these issues here and partly because of my social anxiety flaring up. I'm either forced into groups with randoms or I'm forced to fight usually at least 4 people at a time by myself (and someone who's only been playing since the Gondwa update) which is one that always makes me incredibly angry. It's so genuinely hard to find fair fights, even as Thal I just get immediately targeted by multiple Quetz on community servers.
You're one of the only people I watch about this game, I'm glad that a noob like myself can feel the exact same way about PoT as you do. These issues really need to be fixed because it's made me so put off playing even with my bf who is the only one who occasionally joins me.
If you want a server with not a lot of mods and pretty decent rules you can try Life Finds a Way, it’s a semi-realism server and has great admins who can help newish players, rules are pretty ok if you like solo or group gameplay, mixpacking to a certain extent, etc. The same 2 parties can’t interfere more than 3 times, etc. I’m mainly a solo player myself and would love to welcome others to the server, please consider stopping by if you want! Also death penalty is 25% of your current growth FYI (adult (dies) = back to sub-adult)
I’ve pulled away a bit from PoT because of the issues you showed in this video. It’s really frustrating when you explore the whole map only to be forced to go to IC because that’s where everyone is. Then you finally get there and there’s usually a massive group that’s bored out of their minds and decides to kill the first person not in their group that enters IC. Absolutely frustrating.
I just haven’t been enjoying the game as much once the oooh new game feeling went away. I’m tired of dying to massive KOS groups where no skill is needed and there’s no way for me to defend against it. 🤷🏻♀️
I think part of the problem is making the maps so dang big with less food/water sources. The biomes are so varied and interesting, but it takes ages to get anywhere with the threat of starving so people teleport and gravitate towards areas that are obvious fighting rings (the largest bodies of water in Panjura and the giant crater in Gondwa) even when there are tons of hidden gems of places to explore. It's worse on Panjura which has more samey biomes and isn't surrounded by ocean to reduce the travel time, though there are more survival resources, while Gondwa has the opposite problem; slightly quicker navigation but less resources, ironically keeping people in the same spots where they know they'll find food. There's not much that will stop folks from focusing on PvP, but by making the maps smaller it would at least be easier to run into people and explore different areas without crowding one spot.
I only ever play on semi-realism or full realism servers, since it adds another layer to the game beyond just growing and PvP, but the gameplay does still get stale when you can't find anyone else.
In my honest opinion, Waystone should be a luxury, not some core feature people are encouraged to use. This is a multiplayer game that depends a lot on its population, as you have said. As such, any feature that enables people to not be part of this population should be extremely expensive.
I would say, Waystoning should cost way more. Like... 1000 marks from the get go, which then increases with every use heavily.
Two friends who just want to play together will grind those 1000 marks to play together. But an entire group will run out of marks in a flash or spend most of their time questing, that will put them 'out there' again.
My pricing idea was more to incentivise it still being useful for smaller groups like 2-3 players but inconvienient for larger groups to sit on an area.
It is a luxury but i wouldnt wanna make it undesirable to use.
@@hunyadacrazy Then perhaps the incredible startup cost of 1000 marks should only apply to players waystoning into a location they died at within x amount of time (on any dino). To prevent revenge killing. The devs are trying to crack down on it but waystoning makes all their efforts into a laughing stock.
OR block waystoning into a location they died at for x amount of time. On every dino on their account.
i am a official panjura player through and through so pvp is kinda my whole thing, ive seen alot of people cry about how herbis can attack carnis or t rex should oneshot everything n such, well i agree with you and alot of people in this comment section i feel like people want this game to become some walking survival sim with some ultra realistic mechanics, some people have to realize that there are other people playing the game and its not just AI filled game world- not everyone wants to be in some nat doc rp and some people wanna just have a hard survival experience. hopefully in the future where they add more gamemodes or something both types of players can play the game they love without leaving out the other.
First time viewer of your channel. I've been playing almost a year now on and off. I have every dino to adult even kai. The biggest issues with the official come down to 3 reasons that I can see.
1) The devs killed the other hotspots in the game. When I started BQL, GV, YG, HT/SG and IC/GP use to be the main spots. The devs killed BQL and recently GV which pushed everyone to the North part of the map. YG occasionally has people there but its always IC/GP and HT/SG that have massive groups or mixpackers there.
2) Theres no admins or any consequences for playing unfair(mixpacking) or griefing players. If they actually did something to mixpacking maybe that wouldn't be all everyone runs into.
3) There's no options in endgame but to fight. If they added in more aquatics the ocean would maybe fill up more and then spread out players or give people like me something to grind now. They should have focused on quest first in my opinion over combat update.
Edit: GH was hyped to be the southern GP but they removed all the herb bushes except 1...like why. GH was more popular before they changed it.
Oh welcome mate :)
I don't usually make videos like this being more negative. I'm usually just messing around having fun.
I may be also running off nostalgia of seeing all the hotspots getting good attention regularly.
The other more positive side to this would be a pachy video from a few days ago to add more context to the fast vs slow section of this video :)
What zone is GH
Green hills :)
The state of hunya suffering
😂
I would say this is a problem on both maps, no one walks around the map anymore. Those that do, are either those avoiding big groups or smaller groups who can't fight the bigger groups. WS is indeed to cheap as groups usually have a fast dino parked there at the WS to bring them back if they die and will just keep doing so until you die; even if they run out of marks they are fast dinos like a Raptor so they can get the quest done quickly. Another thing that also doesn't help is those said groups will switch servers all the time. So instead of walking around the map they will just switch servers to fight people who are in that area on another server and then do it all over again until they get wiped, bored or log for the day. Which adds onto your points.
I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing the lack of players in the between spaces in the map and even some hot spots are becoming empty except ic and GP. And most people I do see in the between areas run or keep their distance but IC is a different story you will have almost any thing attacking you all the time. But I do have luck as my ano in those areas even groups of Rex will leave me alone but that might be because im an ano lol.
I started playing pretty recently. I mostly play solo. You're right pretty much about everything. In my opinion, the waystone's cost should be increased by a lot or they should even get removed. Devs should also remove most of the corpses around the map, same with salt rocks and berries. Make people fight for the food - if they die more often, they respawn in a random location more and have to travel (therefore they're encountering more players).
Gondwa map is way better designed than Panjura, there are less small water sources that are just safe to drink from and there are more long rivers. I personally like the survival feel in Evrima, when drinking you must always be very cautious because of the crocs. Devs went in a good direction regarding the map. I just wish the croc's charged attack in this game didn't make any noise when underwater.
This game definitely needs 200 or even more people per server. This should be a priority now for devs, not adding new dinos. The map is huge, it's designed for way higher amount of players.
Generally, game has potential but I'm not sure if the devs realise what is important to fix/change and what is not.
the state of officials is carnivores are somehow prey for herbivores
They need to feed the trikes better 😂
Even the Herbivores are prey for Herbivores... 😵
Fr tho that’s why I play carnivore and try to 1v1 any herbivore I can see that I can fight. Even in a non1v1 fight like an allo vs a pachy pack I’m in for because herbivores are just carnivores with a taste for golden metal. Aka rex teeth spino fingers and even other herbivore body parts
Suggested ways we can fix IC groups
1: Get rid of Replenishing Quest
2: Add a HC there. Since the Debuff would stop camping the area entirely.(But would be problematic for questing)
3: Get rid of the way stones force players to traverse the map and that would increase foot traffic and encourage less area camping.
What do you think of those ideas?
1. The replenish quest there is too easy as there are like infinite salt rocks there, they're also close to the replenish spot, i would move the salt rocks along the walls of crater or maybe ontop of the cliffs to make it a bit more tedious. But i was also thinking about getting rid of the replenish quest there.
2. I dont think we need another homecave personally, hotspots have their uses but being super easy to sustain yourself there is a problem if there is no pvp.
3. I wouldnt wanna remove the option of waystones personally, i would prefer to increase the price from the starting point like my example in the video as smaller groups can still waystone 2 people for 300 marks with the first on being free. It was to incentivise more players into smaller groups to thrive while making bigger groups put more effort in for the actions they are already doing.
@@hunyadacrazy Yeah good point the idea was just to make it more realistic and but if they did take away the video game side of things it would annoy more players then anything. It’s very hard to figure out a solution but your ideas do sound great!
This is why I play realism servers with rules and group sizes and NO MIX PACKING and some of these servers I play on have territories so it forces people to be more spread out
What the best realism server that doesn't have a password?
@@spoonky85 there's a few the islander one is my favorite
It's incredible how little has changed from when this video released to now, though I should probably be replacing the word 'incredible' with 'depressing'.
Game needs a solo playlist
I play solo. I have almost every dino and imo the most annoying part of this game is walking for 30 mins just to run into 6 mixpackers who are all on coms on discord probably and get absolutely wrecked to spawn on the other side of the map
It just feels like the Devs doesn't even care about the players feedback, this Gondwa map now has lot of problems.
1. Hotspots, They gathered up to one popular place like IC and GP.wished the Devs could figure out something for that.
2. Mixpacking/Mixpackers, Like in the video they just become annoying and bullies (4:59 Hunya sufferings)
3. Dinosaur being balanced or not, The Devs just could give nerfs or buffs to dinosaurs like Trex being trashed now. Gets to the point where herbivores are likely are stronger than most carnivores.
I agree with what Hunya said in the video, and looks like SimplyAmazing made a video about the game aswell. The problems and the solution are in the Devs hand. Hope they can fix it.
-Guy that suffered
How people play on officials in terms of mixpacking and stuff associated with that i'm personally not bothered by, i can accept a no rules server.
I care more about what the game influences.
Balancing issues are ever changing and will always be around in any game ever with pvp, i chose not to talk about balance for that reason 😂
I know how the calculation for damage in pvp (how to find out how much damage everything does to everything).
Seems pointless to talk about balance in my situation when i dont have access to the PTB when that is active 😅
I don't watch simplyamazing anymore, along with other things (i will not speak about sorry), after he nerfed old campto on his own server after i killed his dasp with one (took multiple attempts over a few days), I feel we see different situations in the game.
Sorry if that comes off as combative, its a more negative type video and i can only give my view y'know
Bro not finding people is always an issue I have with community servers. Maybe its about time of day, cuz i dont think ive ever been alone in any area of an official server map for more than 20 mins
I feel like every time I play on Gondwa I can grow a Dino wherever I want because I know where half the server is. I never found crater to be enjoyable and for everyone to be located in one section of the map makes servers very laggy. You can't enjoy playing the ocean Dinos because you will see no one for hours, carnivores are useless solo because of huge herds, and if u do somehow get a carni duo then you HAVE to play gp or gv otherwise you will have to live off of corpses.
There is no solution, only to play on realism servers were there are rules. The game is simply too barebones to adress this issues in any proper or timely manner.
Having said that, removing Home Caves, Waystones and Trophies is the only fast and obvious fix but it is also obvious why the devs would shy away from removing content they worked to create in the first place. The only other reasonable thing to do would be to reduce the amount of growth from trophies and increasing the death penalty. That way people will be less motivated to camp hotspots and kos and less willing to take unnecessary risks like fighting an elephant with a puddle or revenge killing.
Yeah, this is the reason I play semi realism or servers with maybe a couple extra rules that make people spread a little more. Of course the hotspots are still popular but without group caps or making hotspots safezones all no rule pvp servers become walking and dying to a megapack simulator. I love pvp but hate just being ganged up on 20x in the same place over and over. Gets frustrating as solo.
I understand that, i'm fine with how people play but care about how the game influences players to play.
Like my idea for waystones keeps them in the game and usable, but just a bit more incovienient to add more effort to certain things.
You never have to play solo. The enviroment is the best teamate you can get if you know how to use it.
Official is a joke now. Its just monster mix pack kos groups. Low skill players who couldnt make it on their own or as a duo.
Duos and trios i can live with pretty comfortably in the game, some dinos are designed to be in groups, alot of the time they know what they can and cant get away with, but aren't an unstoppable force.
Seeing videos like this only makes me wish an AI update happened WAY before these repeated combat/map updates. A LOT of indie games with very big scopes do this. Have players fight each other and they'll make their own content and you can extend development time. However it's been so long that's all this game really is. Either you play on a server with a list of rules as long as the bible, or you get trapped in mixpack hell. Them playing keep away with the corpses isn't helping anything. Stick some damn AI dinos in the game so everyone isn't so tired of picking up pinecones that they'll chase after anything that moves like crazed zombies.
The main problem of the game is that it doesn't benefit solo players unless you are playing fast weak dinos. Another problem is that the game takes away your progress if you die after so many hours spent grinding to become adult.
On officials the thing i hate most is the mix packing and massive groups against a solo player, I'd love if the devs would put something in place so that doesn't happen for example if theres 3 pachys, 2 eos, a rex and ano obvs not all of them can fit in one group so say 3 pachys and an eo are in a group if they attacked you noone else can! it doesn’t do damage just the group your fighting would be so much easier for solo players and would stop mix packing and massive groups and if theres a solo player fighting you noone else can join to help them 🤷♀️ would make it alot more easier for solo players, just an idea 🤷♀️ but they need to do something 😊
I think making bodies and bushes giving less food and bushes giving less food would help this more personally, people can casually do the giant groups because they can sustain themselves way to easily, this would also push more people to migrate in search to sustain themself which in turn will also create more natural encounters :)
My group tends to sit in ht and sg lol we avoid crater for that reason
Heya Hunya :) thought I comment for once since ive been watching your videos a lot lately. Im a Official Gondwa player only haha, but I tend to avoid fighting and only look at fights and not participate xD
Mostly play Thalass, Kaiwheka and my Metri, also have a adult Iggy and Spino but theyre just for chilling and helping new players.
Idk I just dont like fightin at all :(
Thats fair enough mate, people play the way they play :)
Nice to see a new name :)
@@hunyadacrazythx man :) ye I just chill and avoid em all xD
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IMO there're 2 things that could help out against hotspots and all the annoying things that come with them, those being AI dinos and a revamp at least the location visiting quests for now until they revamp the entire quest system.
In my personal opinion I feel that most carnivores go to hotspots for both food and general fighting, which could easily be remedied by spreading AI Dinosaurs throughout the map, the burrow creatures just don't cut it, once most carnis hit subadult the amount of food critters give is just not enough, so of course they tend to try to congregate in areas with a lot of fighting going on to get their food easy, and most herbies(at least IMO) want to fight in open, easily accessible areas which end up becoming hotspots when these 2 groups meet, with IC and GV being near many spawn zones on Gondwa and SLL and CC on Panjura being nice and central which is perfect since that map tends to spawn you all around the edges(the map spawns on both of these maps contribute to hotspots is what I'm trying to say).
With both AI Dinos being spread out to allow carnivores to explore more while feeling confident about hunger and herbies wanting to fight with their unique forms of defense, this could easily lead to these groups spreading out and encounters being way more frequent.
Location quests being revamped to, say for example, give you bonus objectives to do certain things in the areas like eat, drink, and hunt/quest, this would encourage players to engage with those specific quests more which of course lead them to spending even more time in these areas.
Just to clarify a bit, I know there are already objectives for each area that you visit specifically, but I think giving bonus worthwhile rewards for doing extra more time consuming tasks in areas like, say, "Hunt 5 AI Dinos in Savannah Grasslands"(more basic dinos like megs, Concs, Lambeos, Iguanodons, and as a bit of a fun challenge Camptos, wouldn't want to pick up this quest as a Dasp and have to kill rexes and spinos for example, also make them able to be snuck up on so the slower carnis can catch the Camptos and Concs) or "Clear roots and branches to make room for nesting grounds in Rainbow Hills"(not just the sit there and spam a button kind of interactions, but a pick up stuff and set them down outside of an outlined area kind of thing). Maybe at the end have a hungry and desperate carni like a low health allo arrive that you have to kill, obviously the carni can vary depending on what herbi you are, like Camptos getting Deinonychus and Laten, all the way up to Eo and Bars getting a desperate low health Rex or Spino) could be a great change for dinosaur placement around the map along with a start to making the game a lot more engaging!
I love this game especially since I don't have a PC and can't just switch to the other dino survival games, it hurts me to see this game making huge mistakes like these, the questing system is one of if not the most unique thing about this game, and IMO it is so underdeveloped and utilized. The combat updates and newer dinos like Pycno and Thal are cool and all, but at the end of the day you should be able to have fun throughout the entirety of the game, not just after doing hours of tedious boring quests until you get to be adult and be forced to go to a hotspots to eat a full meal or just be entertained with the presence of other dinos.
Sorry for the long comment but I wanted to give some ways I personally think this game could really shine in the gameplay loop of officials, you know it's bad when I was more excited for the modded Maip to come out than I am waiting for the official Hatz, Euhrino, and combat updates to come out. I would love to see Alderon really ramp up their development of PoT and give us some cool stuff by the end of the year/start of next year like a Panjura overhaul(that map is so dead, shame cause I like the vibes of it being a Redwoods esque landmass and not an island like every other dino survival game), AI dinos(just give them a detection system, fight or flight depending on the species, and more things to do besides walk around or doing idle animations like eating, drinking, sleeping etc.), or a quest system overhaul(more engaging tasks with a better sense of accomplishment and make them carnivore/herbivore themed like AI dino hunts or nest prep and helping to re-fertilize land that has been stripped by other herbivores), if they push themselves and listen to the community closely they could have one of if not the best dinosaur survival games in their hands.
Edit: totally forgot to mention solo play, yeah I have this problem with both official and modded dinos, just a bit of a difference between these two. For official, they are going a step in the right direction with the solo buffs to dinos like Pycno and Kentro, I just think all creatures should have buffs for both solo and groups, but just don't have the group buffs be obviously better than the solo buffs. But instead of making the solo buffs better leading to "solo groups", just make the solo buff 3/4ths or more equal to the group buff stacked in the amount expected in a group(like the 4 stacking ceratopsian buff on Eo Albert and Styra, so basically the solo buff would be as powerful as a 3 stack of that buff to discourage solo grouping), don't just make group roars but solo roars too, it's a crime that they made Tyrant's Roar not work while not in a group. While irrelevant, my main problem with modded dinos is that mod teams don't seem to either want to cater to solos or think about catering to solos because I swear all the modded creatures I've seen have group focused buffs and roars but no solo focused buffs or roars(prime example, how the PT team massacred my favorite dino Yutyrannus by turning it into a group buffing dino (it was the apex predator in it's habitat btw, not that its real life counterpart should influence how they develop it), also they should really make more modded herbivores, having only Sauropods or one offs like Theri or Para kinda sucks ngl.
This was a very interesting read mate :)
I agree with pretty much everything on the questing being underutilized so far and you had some interesting ideas for what you would change and how you would tie other parts of the game together :)
As for the solo grouping, alot of groups do this not only for the solo buff of the dinos that have it, but also because the group combat timer has stopped all group healing, so now they can heal while their friends fight, the solo buff is more like the cherry ontop to push them even further over the edge.
I would recommend x zaguer's video on path of titans nesting, that also has some pretty interesting ideas on AI, questing ect...
Also.... kill all yutys
Some people are at times in Green Vally but it all depends whos on, most places usually it will be, gp, ic, gv, dl , ive had a lot of rare occurrence of hunted down by a eo and two pachy in stego canyon as a adol bars some how i ran into two sty that saved me , kinda sucks though wish people would travel more places but gondwa is better than panjura but its still fun to grow a dino on the map currently gonna grow my pachy on their and roam around the Death Lake only way to grow 😅 , great video and I also watch Kent the Gent he's awesome, usually only stay in ic if its a decent group but if its bullies well I cause chaos easy to do that as a chaotic pachy current favorite targets are rexs, spinos, ic sarcos, ophis's but really interested in hunting a stego as a pachy so hopefully one day.
Hopefully future changes like 200 player servers push more traffic across the map and influence some different playstyles/mindsets.
We have an entire map and yet i mainly see people around a damn fish bowl 😅
@@hunyadacrazy Hope so too, i just wish they also fixed Panjura basically left it forgotten unfortunately but oh well
Dang bro four suchos thats acctually impressive they can beat anything
If there was an area with some trees i could have used... i would have had a much better time for sure xD
They only want to force people to PvP
Removing Corpses, missions of killing Herbies, not having rules like at all, mix packers, max packers..its just not fun anymore.
Another thing is how they change dinosaurs statistics everytime there's an update, I hope they'll finish the game soon, because like this is..not the greatest.
And most importantly:
A version with rules like the community servers, that would be great
Games broke because of over sized packs, most of the map is empty. Needs 200server size. Im not sure how it will work out in the future we will see how they implement their own small pvp map groups but atm i have all dinos and it just camt compete with other games im playing. Even though i love pot i can get great pvp on lol and it will be balanced with player count at least.
I have same mindset to everything you said and I think if the game developers were to change some of things the game would be better.
Maybe my perspective isnt the same, and I'll see this more often, but as it stands for me I've rarely gone through a location on my growing herbs that hasn't had a significant population. I never go to IC because its full of spergs, and there isn't enough water to drown those horses. I frequent BTC, YG, HT, TF, and sometimes SM, RB, BF, and GP. I play exclusively on NA servers, because that tends to give me less lag (no one should be expecting smooth connections with people across the planet, but, again, thirsty horses). But it's not perfect, and obviously I don't ALWAYS see people. But, I don't know, I just haven't noticed the "population crisis" a lot have. Maybe it's because I am growing babies, and so am more acutely aware of something near me because it means growth or lost progress.
Your Waystone idea definitely needs to reach the Devs somehow, it's a fantastic way to help cut this encounter drought while not ruining player choice.
I'll have to start growing my iggy on official to see if i get that change in mindset xD
Again with the horses, love it xD
The correction arrows i put over the price scaling were originally double the price of what i showed in the video, but i thought that would be too harsh, i want it to be a bit more incovienient to push players into another method instead of making the method pretty much unusable.
@@hunyadacrazyIt's a fine line between solving the issue, and making a whole new one. Hopefully they do at least something, 'cause as it stands it isn't workin'.
True dat, true dat
This is why I don’t play officials often. Yeah yeah, no rules, yeah yeah, players can play however but if everything you see just instantly homes in on you like a missle for a simple trophy and then play toxic in chat then I’m out. No reason for this sort of bull crap in a dino game.
Wow actually I like your videos :)
Thanks mate :D
Glad ya like em :)
You might not want to throw shade at people for how they choose to play the game but you know and I know and everyone with a brain knows that bully squads and kos mixpackers literally ruin the game for almost everyone else (less than six minutes in this video you called it annoying) and I for one am going to hold trolls and griefers accountable for their choices, regardless of what the game "supposedly" encourages with it's mechanics. Remember that not everyone plays the game the same way, therefore when someone does something toxic or detrimental to the gameplay experience they are making a conscious choice to do so and they should not be allowed to do so without some level of consequence, bare minimum social shaming since the game devs don't seem interested in fixing blatant exploitative game mechanics.
Being nice to bad people does not make things better, whether it's in real life or a video game. People choose to spend their real actual finite time on this earth playing this game so yes it actually is a pretty big deal if they can't enjoy it and they end up regretting wasting their money and time that they can never ever get back, and I blame not only the game devs but also the low lifes that selfishly take away from the experience from other people and, ultimately, from themselves. I guarantee they would have more fun doing something else and so would everyone else, they are just not creative enough to figure that out
okay so idk where you got the pricing on the waystone but it currently is 150 then 300, 600, 1.2k then 2.4k if you ask me i think the pricing is just fine, maybe remove the 150 price and just start at 300, I think they just need to rearrange the ws placement making it more difficult to travel, such as Wc ws is literally right next to IC, instead put it more closer to hc but south and what you were saying about IC basically having infinite water, i agree! i believe they should reduce the amount of salt rock available but instead they added another salt rock AND its closer to the restoration-_-.
I should play Anodontosaurus and smash them
Stego. Es un muy buen dino. Yo jugaba con uno antigua mente y me iba muy bien. Pero dejé de usarlo por 2 motivos.
1) Me gusta más Miragallia.
2) Soy mas de ankys.
Soo I see 🎶mountain Stego🎶
Didn’t work out too well XD
That fucking timing was so bad.
1 maybe 2 is definitely handable but 4 on a steg is definite death.
There were some parts on that looked loke i would be able to climb, the first sucho blocked off my next move to get up 😂
I wouldnt have wond the fight, but i would have done a bit more if i didn't go up there 😂
Yep, its pretty impossible to enjoy this game unless you play a medium Dino that has speed and stamina
I just play Pachy and fuck around with Apex carnis lmao, i just agitate them with constant kicking and headbutts, and they run away
Being able to atleast try to escape certainly helps 😂
Pachy is the perfect example for that :)
And thats why i play on panjura
They just need to find ways to de-incentivize cooperation between herbis and carnis. Maybe group limits could be a lot stricter? Small buffs applying when you group with your own species? I don't see why you'd need to be in a 20 person megapack even if you're terrible at the game.
They already do but players just do it anyway. For example the game does not allow carnis and herbis to be grouped together. Players just use discord or something similar to communicate and mixpack anyway just not technically in a group.
@@Benanarama. Yea, I understand that terrible people will always exploit freedom to their advantage (why we have rules in the first place) but that's why I suggest incentives because otherwise there isn't much the devs can do without making rules like a realism server does.
@@justmonika2345they need to make a BoB fear mechanic, that can be also unhabilitaded in some deathmach servers.
@@BeegRanho Can you explain how the mechanic works? I haven't played BoB.
I always encounter this groups like in clip 1. Everywhere i go. That is so not fun at all. The only dino i have an adult off is a Thala. All the others i startet got killed by these groups. Im just a Bebe :(
And Also: AaAarGgh
Yea dying isnt fun, but not being able to even have a chance to do anything is frustrating, its the game that pushed this kind of thing.
Hopefully the future changes like 200 player servers and the like will push players into more areas and perhaps different playstyles/mindsets :)
Also:😂
Would be nice if there comes some changes with this update. Im a very chill player with herbie and like to roam around in peace. If i play a carnie, obviously i need to attack someone from time to time. But even that you cant do without getting swarmed by a giant mixpack.@@hunyadacrazy
Fr tho I played my allo a bit ago and I’m a solo carni player, was about 2/3 food and spotted a dasp heading out of crater towards me. Killed it, and a lamb, pycno, and another big creature all came towards me from deeper in the crater. There’s absolutely no reason all if that should’ve happened for a creature that ISNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO PACK WITH THOSE. Carni with carni and herbi with herbi is fine but when you get swarmed for simply trying to survive it’s just dumb. Solo carnivore players in particular are just not viable unless they want to live off of ai or play a server with rules. For the survival aspect that is.
@@dtbrex08 oh yes solo carni experience is torture. Groups ruin the survival aspect, like you said solo carni is horrible you kill one thing because you are hungry 1v1 which is fair right and you only killed for food. Then all of a sudden you realise you killed someone who has friends on the server or is part a bigger mixpack nearby then you are screwed, you will lose hours of progress and good luck trying to quest anywhere near that area as they usually try to find and kill you over and over. This makes the game boring, punishing and tbh totally pointless to play
I will only play Struthi in official, because the state of official is BS currently.
Speeeeeeeeeeed with a side of turkey 😂
You atleast can enjoy the show that way :D
I'll never understand mix packs. Herbs should always side together
No rules is no rules, mixpacking is not the focus of this video.
@@hunyadacrazy Agreed. That wasn't what I took away from this video. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine
@@TafTabTah fair enough, i can understand that, i care more about not being able to find anything outside of 2 main areas, hopefully the devs get the servers right for 200 players and we see more people
@hunyadacrazy I wish the game was more than fetch quests. PvP is awesome but until you reach Adult your mostly doing fetch quest until the real fun begins
I hope the devs add new aspects to leveling your dino over adding higher player counts
@@TafTabTah yea there isnt much to do other than fight when adult, i would recommend you watch the channel "x zaguer"s last video on the idea of nesting in path of titans, it's a very interesting video :)
This is why I like and hate PoT. It's fun to dominate mixpackers but at the same time it's still annoying to fight them regardless. I just wish this game made more intresting pvp interactions and make a system that punishes megapackers
Solo in oficials? You mean Hell? 😂
Tbh ive played on officials once, and that was when i first bought the game, i find community servers much more enjoyable.
Also idk what’s in the mind of those players that will jump everything they see on groups.
I played pretty much only officials since console launch, i dabbled here and there with community servers but officials was where you could find me.
There's 2 things that possibly go through the mind of big groups when they spot a solo in the area they are holding.
1 is fun to kill something.
2 is paranoia of this solo betraying them if they accept it 😂
Why did u climb the mountain 😭😭 I knew it would end SO bad. 😭😭😭😭 it was way too steep :’) you died so fast …
The first sucho up there blocked my next move to get up 😂
@@hunyadacrazy Yeahh broo he was fast than chuuu XDD you was so dead even after that kick off from the mountain there was no way you’d survive that!!
Genuinely suprised my how fast they got up there 😂
I’m sorry but you had enough stam to outrun everything but the pachy buddy I’ve seen a Mixpack get slapped by a Stego because the chase. Stego is too squishy to stop moving like that
Sure, i run for around 40 seconds then i am walked down and killed, no difference as they'll be able to rest while one apex keeps me moving
@@hunyadacrazy you are balanced Stego? Try out speed it’ll give you just enough distance to make it back to hc from Apexes from Crater plus most mixpackers have 0 skills
I was speed stego before, the update to armor hide without giving stego lone survivor hurt speed stego hard
@@hunyadacrazy nah I think it’s just a different play style now you can’t take hits might as well have the speed to stay just out of distance imo
@@pofuuu stego kinda relies on obstacles to be able to fight, like rocks, forests ect...
This is because of the long animation on attacks with being slender enough to weave between stuff that other dinos are more likely to get caught on, as you can still swing through all that stuff.
I went to crater because i was bored from not seeing many other players, solo stego is just not made for open areas i feel
I know why its been a little lackluster
Whats your take? :o
@@hunyadacrazy not enough spino
GOD DAMMIT BRAVE! 😂
For me officials= play thal or deino and steal sum trophies.
Love it xD
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I am normally a big fan of your videos but this one hit a little different. I only play official and spend VERY little time at or near the crater and I see action every single session. You start the video saying not to complain how people have their fun then spend the next 30 minutes complaining how other people are having their fun.
A couple things to keep in mind I think...1. Even if 30 dinos are running around IC that leaves 50+ around the rest of the map (I'm not sure I ever even really see near that many at IC at once, except for very rare occasions) 2. Running into someone doesn't only require you be in the same location but there at the same time as well. How often do you think its possible you just missed other dinos in various areas by minutes or even seconds, or maybe since you're playing on official they were just hiding when they saw a full grown Stego waltz into the area looking like it was ready for a fight? - which is exactly what I would have done if I was on anything other than an adult myself or something I absolutely knew could outrun you as a bby.
There are 27 biomes on Gondwa according to PoT Wiki. With 80ish players on a server, that means even if every zone had even traffic there would be less than 3 dinos per biome at a time...what are the chances you'd run into one of them just passing through? If your solution to that is more slots per server then consider people already complain about the server tick, so what do you think adding more people to a server will do?
I absolutely agree megapacks and dino-switching are a problem for the state of the game and more should/could be done to prevent this, but it would take someone smarter than me to figure out how to do this effectively and to think there wouldn't be hotspots and dead areas just because they remove WS or IC is short sighted at best. Also I'd argue hotspots are a good thing in that, if you want action you KNOW where to go to get it, and if you want to level semi-peacefully you KNOW where NOT to go. Also, WS are a way to help prevent the possibility of coming across another megapack when you're just trying to get back to a friend to make up for lost growth after the last megapack came through your area and you only have a limited amount of time to play to begin with.
Literally EVERY issue I see people have about official can be easily fixed by finding a community with the rules you like and there are plenty out there - or you know, just play smarter, ignore chat and stay away from IC? The ONLY exception to this would be server tick/hitbox stuff.
Players play the way they play because that is what the game has pushed them to do to have fun in the game's current situation. I have also not called for any rules.
The only clip where i genuinely complained about how someone played was the first clip, especially with the chat afterwards, i'll hold my hands up for that.
The rest of the complaints are back to what i've seen as the game pushing players to do for their fun.
In referencing my pachy video i encountered people in each of the hotspots, saying that what i experienced on pachy for that server contradicted what i experienced on stego.
This is why i kept referencing pachy and stego. I saw people in all of the hotspots on pachy in 1 server where as i saw around the same amount of people over 3 servers on stego.
I never said to remove the waystone, i said increase the price to inconvienience big groups and possibly push more people into walking instead of teleporting everywhere.
More foot traffic or atleast more effort from the big packs to do what they are already doing with the current price of the waystones, taking away the option of using waystones is not a good move and i never said to do that.
200 players would obviously push more map traffic, i would not sacrifice the tickrate for that, which is why i didn't mention more server slots or tickrate in the video.
I will agree with your case of not spending enough time in zones and only doing the quests and moving on right away wasnt good for getting a better chance at encounters.
Waltzing into a zone, i get that i didn't attack any thing i DID see but any player who spots me first ain't gonna know that, so yea some probably hid, cant trust anyone n all, understandable.
To finish up, i explained what the situation is currently from my perspective, i'm not telling anyone to change how they play, advising on how to have an easier time and what i think would be a good step in the right direction for the game.
Having to find a community run server to enjoy the game is not a fix. Also your answer is to play smarter, ignore chat and basically stay away from an area you know you will see somebody. That is an incredibly boring way to play a multiplayer survival game. You might as well just do single player at that point. And if you just do single player all your doing is chores to grow a virtual dino to have zero end game content other than walking around. If that's your idea of a fun game well I feel sorry for you. Why must it be KOS everyone in groups or avoid any interaction ever?? This is why people are frustrated its either non stop sweaty boring fighting or a dinosaur walking sim with some basic chore quests. Why are you so willing to accept this and defend it? You deserve better for your money early access or not.
@@Benanarama. im guessing from the accusation of wanting waystones removed, the video was skimmed through, otherwise we have had different experiences. They have their own knowledge that comes along with that.
Also with the fact i'm not too experienced with explaining my more critical views on things, it could have come across to them in a different way than i intended :)
@@hunyadacrazy I definitely could have done a better job clarifying a few things. It was already a bit much and I wasn't trying to create even more of a wall of text. I assure you, I watched the whole thing. As I said, I am a big fan of yours.
I understand you didn't say you wanted WS removed but making them prohibitively expensive is effectively the same thing and it was also partially in response to other comments I read.
Mark farming can already be a pita for the average player. Making it harder prohibits them far more than the no-lifers who already abuse the system, and will inevitably find a way to abuse the same system that is just more expensive. It's just what they do.
That is an issue that can be experienced across ANY game with PvP - those who have nothing better to do will always find a way to give themselves any advantage they can, ethics or morals be damned. The gaming industry as a whole struggles with this exact thing and punishing the majority for the actions of the minority is never the way to go.
I absolutely agree that some of the things you outlined are indeed problems, I just don't agree with your proposed solutions. It does indeed also seem we have different experiences when we play as a whole which may be why I don't think some are problems at all.
@@mikecheka1 yep, these kinda talks have a tendancy to become essays, but it's good to have them regardless.
Without being too nitpicky, my idea of waystone pricing was to push for more smaller groups(around 2-3 player packs/herds) along with pushing the larger groups to put more effort.
But yes there is a way around everything to those who are willing to do it.
Interesting talk with ya mate :)