@@shivam2516 In India height doesn't matter that much bro as average height of girls is around 5'1 so like I would be about 5-6 inches taller than girl if go for short girls plus shoe lifts. And also arrange marriage will always ahead. My big bro ( cousin ) is same height as me maybe little more attractive and hella rich and have married to absolute 8.
The reason why you get height mogged is because a lot pf people way shorter than you are recluses who stay away from social situation that would result in them being heightmogged
Absolutely true. Most short guys stay home because they know how brutal it is out there. Which can raise the average height at many places to well above 6ft.
Yep. I noticed this. If you look outside of a club (never been inside one) you will see tall guys and women in high heels walking around like telling shorties to stay away. Short guys would be in cars so you won't see them pass by.
Most Height averages include old people and people that barely leave the house. When you go out, whether to a bar, a club or to school, you quickly realize the average height in any given situation is MUCH higher. I work at a bar and on an average day I see hundreds of men that are well over 6ft. tall. If you're even an inch under 6ft. you are at a severe disadvantage in modern dating. Women don't give a DAMN if the average male height is 5'9" in America when every club is packed with 100 guys that are over 6ft.
Average height is actually the average height of 19 year old men, the claim that "it includes a lot of old people" is wrong and assumes that old people are short, here in the Netherlands I meet a dozens of men older than 50 who are well over 6'6 every day.
@@spamsam-qq7wd so how do you shorties hook up?? Apps, church (church?!) or what?? I’m still not sure I’m buying this anti-short mentality. What difference does it make to a girl how tall you are? What is it that I can do that a short person can’t? I don’t get it.
@@Lucas-gm3bv If a girl can choose between two guys she is going for the taller one. easy as that. If somebody offers you an iPhone 10 and an iPhone 13 for the same price you go with the iPhone 13.
height matters if you feel short being 5'10, then i find that hilarious. i'm 5'6 dating is non-existent. As you have mentioned in your other video's i've given up on dating just focusing on me best thing i've done. This channel's content is 100% fact, it sad seeing a lot of video's lately attacking your channels. Keep this content coming as we need to wake more people up to it
@@skomants2997 No , don't do this.. don't risk damaging your body for a woman. Guys, WOMEN DO NOT LOVE MEN. Period.. Look at the divorce rate, it's 53-56%. These are couples that promised to love each other forever.. Women get tired of being with the same guy for too long, think they can do better and leave.. Granted, there's some good women out there, but in general, women are not loyal.. Why go through leg lengthening, just to get laid more often? Your health is more important
I'm a 173cm Portuguese and i have a good looking face/good social skills/good engineer degree. I can confirm that night clubs competition was very cut through.
I met up with my friends at the bar about 2 weeks ago and also noticed, that about a half of guys there were chads or at least chadlites. My conclusion was that normies an sub5s avoid this kind of places, because they already know, that they have no chance of success when approaching a girl there.
Same with dancing, all women go to dancing events and if a woman is bad at dancing nobody would ever tell her and she would delusionally believe that she's a good dancer, meanwhile a man who is even an above average dancer would be told that he "sucks" because only the top male dancers are accepted on the dance floor.
@@-haclong2366 I would never tell anyone that they are bad at dancing cause we are going to party. We aren't going to a competition. I want to get drunk and move to loud music. Men that come for flirting are in the way of my fun. Getting rid of people is hard.
Although I'm just 5'7 I tend to have decent luck compared to guys a few inches taller. My brother's are both 5'9 with a bigger bone structure but I would always get the positive attention from relatives because my face is more attractive. To be honest I think circumstances matter a lot. I only get lucky when I'm out with some good friends having a good time and conditions are ripe. Now that I'm older I simply don't have as many interactions, but I still get the sexy eyes when interaction is a necessity.
The more that I watch your videos the more I feel like the black pill is true. I am someone who might have been considered a chad in college. 6’2 230 lbs with relatively low body fat percentage, good muscle mass from constant gym training and diet, above average facial attractiveness and 130 iq. I had my body count in the double digits by the end of my first year at college. After putting on some weight in fat after college during Covid, I am treated like shit by women of varying attractiveness although not only am I nicer and more conscientious, but have my life in order as well and making a lot more money. It leads me to believe that women base their attraction solely on looks and nothing else. Stay strong brothers it’s a rough dating market if you aren’t perfect
"had my body count in the double digits by the end of my first year at college" Lets applaud this man, most men would dream of such numbers and this guy is casually pulling it off.
@@adamg6711 *was, as it's now in the past. To a woman neither your past nor future matter, only your present. You could buy her a diamond ring and tomorrow she would have forgotten it and ask "¿What have you done for me lately?".
@@Krelian4400 I don’t know where you get that from. I never discuss the topic (it’s the biggest red flag), and I’m having no problems (I’m 23, well out of Uni.)
I’m 6 foot but I can’t imagine being mogged by many guys. I’ve boxed for like 20 years, which has contributed to my confidence a lot. So if someone is taller than me, my body language and mannerisms don’t change.
I’m probably going to lengthen my limbs, I really don’t like being 5’10”. I read the max you can do safely is 6 inches, but I first have to measure my wingspan and make sure everything is proportional and will be proportional. I’m just not satisfied with life. I want to dominate more men and mog them and make them look small. And on top of that? Being rich and owning guns and armor? I’d be so unstoppable honestly.
@@Us3r739 possibility the dumbest idea, what are you a child? If you are still a teenager judging by your childish ideas, I would recommend HGH, TRT and anavar about 2-8UI of HGH per day, with 250-500mg of trt per week, and the dosage for anavar you can search it up but do a low dosage just because it's oral. You will grow that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks and even though I am 19 and at the end of growing cycle, I still grew 1-2cm, which means probably because of my fast results either I was deficient of HGH or TRT, either I was not heaving enough sleep as now I sleep a lot more. Either way it's much better than any surgery that will put in a wheelchair for half a year to a full year and then of course 2-3 years of recovery, that's a lot of years that you will lose instead of focusing on what you can change in life for real, either way even if you do get this surgery you will still need HGH and TRT and anavar mostly because your bones and muscles will be very atrophied and you will need to get them strong and thick
Basically a slave auction house. THey just want to put the top tall guys and women in heels up in front to breed. You're basically PAYING the slavemaster to enter and dance and drink
I don't agree with the blackpill but the feeling of being surrounded by guys who are taller than you is a truly embarrassing experience. I am supposedly average height (179cm, just over 5'10) and it feel like at least 70% if the people in my college are taller than me. Even the girls. I send my prayers to guys who are shorter than me and I hope they find some peace in their lives
even in the netherlands girls taller than 180cm is very rare like 2-3% in the uk and usa its more like less than 1% even in tall ethnicities either those girls are wearing heels or you buddy are 170-172cm max
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL omg what an idiots brainwashed blackpiller. "even the girls are taller then me" girls are taller then 179 cm ofc bro. as someone who lives in Germany really tall country rarely I see girls over 179 cm. even a young guy in germany who is 179 is 99% ok with height. face is MUCH MUCH MUCH more important then height once you reached 178 cm. once you reached 180 cm and you have pretty face even a a guy who is 190 cm is insignificant. there is a critical mass in height and once you reach it that's game. other factors come to play.
Most guys don't know their true height. I've found that guys who think they are 6ft are usually truly 5'10. And the guys who think they are 5'10 are closer to 5'9. Anything legitimately over 6ft is negligeable unless you're in the 6'4 range. But any true 5'10 guy is easily 6'1 - 6'2 with shoes and no one notices.
@Greg Army Mogs Mr Chad won't call him a liar But if he's 5'10 it's more than likely with shoes. He likely got mogged in other areas. And being ginger is a huge handicap.
@@keysersoze657 Shoes only add 1 inch of height or so. If a guy puts lift inserts in his shoes, it'll give him another inch on top of that or so. But 4 inches from wearing shoes? You'd have to be wearing some high boots for that.
I’m 6’1 and have had generally good success in comparison to my friends who would be shorter. Although I remember a girl, who I had a fling with, ended up dating a 5’6 guy instead of me. She was 5’4. So height makes a difference, especially in a night club but outside of this environment it’s minimised a bit.
@@-haclong2366 Women mostly only date looksmatched men bcuz those men are often more desperate and accommodating towards the woman. Casual sex is different.
Height doesn't make you a good partner for a long-term relationship. Sure in a nightclub its easier to spot a person if he is higher but that doesn't mean anything for a relationship.
If you're under 5'8" ITS OVER. If you're between 5'8" to 5'10" you've got an insane uphill battle. Between 5'10 to 6' you are still going to have to work really hard. 6' to 6'2" should be like shooting fish In a barrel. Over 6'2" like shooting fish in a barrel with a grenade launcher.
Don’t matter if your tall you still gotta put in hard work. Your perception of height correlating to dating is skewed. My friends and I are between 5’7 and 5’11 and never had any problems with dating 7 to 9s. We’re all athletes and women come naturally. And not all people over six foot have it easy, if they don’t in effort women are repulsed by them and prefer shorter guys they work on themselves more, It’s not some Herculean task like you say it is.
When she is threatened by men in an alley or a suitor that wants to steal your girl, will the strength of the guy not matter? The Blackpill doomers that worship fools like TAILS don't have an answer to this, since they never even came close to a woman. What would their answer be? "Women can defend themselves now". Our million year old biology can be undone with 60 years of feminism. Sure thing bro!
Yeah only bad if they can’t see your bones if they are covered in fat. Also they are attracted to lean faces and you can actually get broader shoulder if you train them and put on muscle. Just look at the transformation of Christian Bale
I got rating from Waffles a half year ago and I keep maxxing following his recommendations. Maybe it will be 0,0001% chance to succeed, but I prefer this scenario than 0% because of not trying...
25 year old kissless virgin here. My face got 4/10. I also calculated SMV using Waffles formula: 5,32/10. Since last rating I've lowered Body Fat percentage from 19% to 16% thanks going to the gym. This week I got second Carboxytherapy for skin under eyes to reduce dark circles. Next month I'm going to go for Rhinoplasty and Septoplasty for my curved and crooked nose
I live in europe and been to many places in europe and i’m 179cm, so basically the same height as wheat waffles. I very rarely get height mogged, if I do get height mogged it’s by some nerd or unattractive guy so I don’t give a shit because I face mog them. Technically my height is average, however I’d say i’m taller or same height than maybe 70-80% of men I come across, i’m not even joking. I even have friends who claim their 187cm and when I stand beside them it’s literally such a minor difference, it’s definitely not a mog. I think people over exaggerate the height topic, yeah if you’re like 160cm you get mogged everywhere but anything above 175cm it’s really not that crazy.
Yeah I'm 178cm and these guys are delusional (5'10) Travelled with a 6'2 (189cm) Friend recently and the height difference was minimal, I thought he was only 2 inches taller than me lol Usually when I go out i'm average/slightly above average anywhere I go
It’s only bad in Northern Europe and some Eastern European countries. I definitely noticed the mog in Amsterdam. The height difference between the Dutch and Germans is noticeable
Bullshit dude. I am the same height and i get heightmogged all the time. I live in sweden but traveling in other european countries aswell. People are tall as trees
@@loosecannon6142exactly I am 5'11 and currently 17 in high school and 95% of guys in my class are the same height as me or taller than me. Only 3 guys are shorter than me so I don't think you mog at 5'10 it's average.
The thing is even though half of men at the night club are top 10% they aren’t the ones who typically approach the women. It’s always the less attractive ones that approach the women.
The top 10% men don't have to approach because they wymen either approach them or make it easy for them(dance right in front of the guy until he notices it). I used to club a lot with fymale friends back in college, if they see a guy they like they will do everything they can to make it easy as possible for the top 10% guy.
@@albertwesker8883 Even the top 10% of men will still have to approach. Most women do not approach men it’s just a top 10% man will 90% of the time not get rejected if he approaches.
Im 21 years old and 5"3 and at this point I just swallowed hard the black pill and moved on with my life ( gym, hobbies, career etc) You lose interest in dating eventually and once you accept it, thats when you'll be at peace with yourself.
Good on you. I'm 32 and also 5'3, but during my 20s I was delusional and struggled hard for an entire decade without realising the BP. The sooner you are at peace with yourself, the better. All the best.
No bro don’t give up I’ll advise (if you’re white) you go to Asia where there are plenty women who want white men who’d be shorter than you or if you really want a western woman I’ll suggest you make up for your height in other areas like having a good looking face, money ,status. It’s gonna be tough but it definitely increases your chances and you should also target short average or little bit above average looking girls (5-7) and your priority should be a marriage like relationship because it’s near impossible to be sleeping around.
If you've completely accepted it, you wouldn't be commenting here. You can't just accept being treated like a subhuman by everyone. It's not acceptance, it's "cope".
Hey brother I'm 5'1 and spent 6 years B Pilled. Don't take it in full until you're 30-35 and have spent 9 years actually building yourself up. It's not fair that us short men have to learn to fly to reach beds chad can walk to, but it's worth it if you find the right partner. I'm not going to suggest you work hard for a landwhale, but there are good women out there who will love and respect you... but unfortunately you gotta spend a few years loving and respecting yourself first.
Get in the gym, train hard and become the best version of yourself bro. Don’t listen to these pathetic blackpillers who give up on life just cause things aren’t going well for you now. Progress takes time. Stay blessed king
I'm 5'6 and I was thinking the same way as you in my early 20s at university. I was shy and timid with girls which is a HUGE turn off for them. In my 30s I gained lot of confidence through success that changed my behavior and that was a game changer. I also worked on my body language, tried to look even more confident. Being short is a true disatvantage on dating sites, but not necessarily in real life. When you're in the center of attention and look very confident, your hight is no longer a factor. Try to talk to anyone around you with confidence and a good body language, women will notice. I'm 50 now, I've seen a lot of things, I know you still don't believe this but showing confidence and being somebody is way more important for women than your height or how handsome you are. Women attact to confindent men.
Which is fine, really. I'm in my 40ies and can tell you it doesn't matter if you connect with anyone at university or not. You just go on with your studies, go to clubs, meet people anywhere and everywhere else. After 4 or 5 years you'll have your degree, will likely move out of town or out of your home country for work, and will make new friends. The university clique will be long forgotten by then. Totally overrated. You can be a content loner at university with a private life outside the uni setting.
For a guy named Honest Waffles, you don't seem honest at all my guy. I estimate your height to be 5'5/5'6 and you're coping/trying to make real 5'10 guys feel bad because you're shorter. These guys at the night club are probably between 5'9-5'11, you're just short and don't want to admit it. Either that or this whole video is literally a troll/social experiment.
The imperial metric system is also at fault here because in other countries girls will talk about guys being 180cm but that is 3cm shorter than 6ft and therefore is easier to acheive on average. It's because 6ft is where you breaks the cap of 5,..ft and it sounds better, just like 180cm is a rounder number than 179cm and therefore is the cap to be broken up to reach the minimum height in their book.
Im 5'11 and 94kg. Ive been lifting weights for about 10 years and am relatively lean. I do fairly well with women on nights out, i will almost always have options. I must say having muscle does really help, even women who say they do not like it, most of them do when they realise your not self obsessed and do not take steroids. A lot of women want to touch you, a lot say they feel safe when with you. Easy pickings realky. Much more than women though, having muscle leads to many, many men asking me food, weights, training splits on nights out.
@yendevus1747 you seem confused. Lean is related to fat free mass. Fat free mass is calculated by subtracting body fat weight from total body weight, total body weight is lean plus fat. So if you are lean, it has nothing to do with weight, the reason a weight quite a lot is because of muscle mass. My body fat % is less than 10%. Lean does not mean skinny. Simply low levels of fat. Hope that clears it up. Fk hamas.
Wheat waffles I appreciate how good at fitness you are. I would not sacrifice fitness for pure brawn. I am 17 and I dont train in running but I am naturally fast and my best 5k was only sub 19 minutes. I heavily commend you for your athletic prowess. I hope I can reach your level or better in the future.
The only reason the "average" is 5'9 is because of old boomers and immigrants. Men in their 20s who were born in the west are basically all 6 ft +. University is such a massive blackpill.
I'm 5'11 and i asked my sister (5'3) if i'm tall or not and she said i'm too short. Then i asked her how tall she thinks the avg height of a man is, and she answered that what she consider man is anything up 6'1
Wheat Waffles = Liar The Average Height in a Night Club is not 6'1, Wheat is a coping projecting manlet who is lying about his height and he is not even 5'10 anyway, I would say more in the ball park of 5'7 to 5'8 and he is lying about his height up 2 to 3 inches like all normies do, because apparently is it is neurotypical to lie about your height, but that is not the point. The point is that it is ridiculous to say that the average height of a guy in a night club is 6'1 when Zyzz the legend himself claimed 187 cm and was taller than most guys in Australian Raves which is basically the same thing as a Night Club. Wheat you are just coping 5'7 to 5'8 manlet and those guys at the night club are 5'10 to 5'11 average height guys, just accept the reality and stop coping! I can't believe that Waffles is 5'10 when he says he gets height mogged by 80% of guys, that is sounding more like 5'8 or below range, even in night clubs they are not significantly above average. I rarely see a guy that is 200 cm or above that is like 1 in 1000 height or greater, and you don't have to be a giga height mogger to attract females, because average height is enough if you got the face.
Yeah he's in denial about his height, I'm a legitimate 178cm (5'10) and if I wear 2 inch lifts I'm practically taller than everyone in public whenever I go out Just youtube "Nightclubs" on here and you'll see that the men there aren't as tall as he'd make them out to believe - Even in Sweden they're around the same height as the women who wear heels
I use to be fat and short and all my friends tall and skinny. Now I'm married, bought a house before 30, successful, still short but lost a lot of weight, then buffed up while my friends are all still tall, fat, single and talk about how depressed they are about their lives. The day I stopped focusing on my height and just did my work is the day I turned my life around, got out of that sad and pathetic lifestyle and started progressing. It's all about mind set and self discipline.
Being at university is already a privilege, a good chunk of men can't even afford going because of how expensive it is, me and a lot of my male friends couldn't go to uni and had to start working early, and as of right now, I work during the day and have classes during the night so I can finish my degree. I am saying this so men don't get obsessed with height when they're already in a place that makes things such as hookups and meeting new people such an easy task. I know a lot of twigs (i'll use your word) that have no social skills, are not even that tall and just look like crap that had a chance to meet so many people and even women just because they were in that environment. My advice is simple, get in shape, even if you're 5'10 you'll stand out, majority of people you see around are either skinny or out of shape, so being in a decent shape will already get you in really good position.
I'm 5'5. I threw the towel and gave up on dating 3 years ago. I have since decided to focus on my career, fitness and hobbies and it's been nice to not have distractions that are derailing me from my personal goals.
I've never dated. I usually just go to clubs to get laid or at least kiss someone or dance with them. Last time it was a 35 yo. I'm 20. She was kinda cute though.
Maybe it is true that in the UK everyone is skinny, but in the US people are generally larger (and fatter). Also most people here go to the gym regularly. So for young men in American uni, you would probably be dead average there. The heightmogging is generally accurate but you are probably seeing taller people more because shorter people tend to be less socially active because they know (consciously or not) that their height is a detriment.
Most guys do not actually go to the gym, it’s just for show. Going to the gym isn’t enough to build a good physique, with good discipline you’ll easily overtake them.
Why does height seem to be more important in the Anglo world? I live in Spain and I'm remarkably short, yet many girls seem to not care that much. I'm going to study in the UK next year and I'm wondering how I'll be perceived over there
@@marcosbona8260 As a short person you may have access to less girls, but if you can attract every girl that accepts your height, you can still have many options.
I agree that people exaggerate. However, they probably are slightly taller than the average. Usually tall people have tall groups of friends and when you go to a night club the tall people stand out, so you stop noticing the shorter people.
I'm 5 10 and usually get with a girl every night I go out alone. With friends less so cause I don't like leaving them and I kinda end up stealing them by accident.
Night club lighting makes people look better, once the light goes on you see the difference. But yeah there is a higher percent of more attractive men. In my city I never thought a frat party or night club was that different
I feel you, brother. I am 6'3 1/2, and I have been height-mogged by 6'7 ultra-studs that are not as uncommon as they used to be in the past. I don't know what they are putting in the water, but boys are growing really, really big these days. I am 6'3 1/2(1.92 meter), I am supposed to be at the top 1,.5% in height, and yet there isn't a single day that I don't see a guy at least 2: taller than me. The new generation is crazy!
@@gdup1728 True, especially since my face is also way above average, and I did photpgraphic modeling in my teens.😁The only reason why I wasn't Prom King in high school is because I had a serious health problem with a rlative that precluded me from going. Don't get me wrong: I am not complaining. I have been treated like Royalty my whole life, since I was a little boy. All I am saying that over the past few years I have been seeing an unusual number of 6'5+ guys, when gus that are like 6'6 or 6'7 are supposed to be a fraction of one percent of the population. The other day for the first time I ever, I saw 4 young guys that were all as tall or taller than me. The "shortest" one was my height, the other was slightly taller than me and the other 2 looked to be 6'6. First time I experienced what a manlet must feel like. Gen-Z boys are growing like weeds! But, yeah, I am still a massive 6 inches taller than the average male. I am not religious at all, but some times I ask myself why I was given so much while others were given so little, especially since I am not a super good person or anything like that. I don't think that the geneticlaly superior such as ourselfves should mock short and/or ugly guys, because it's really not their fault. We also did nothing to deserve what we have. But, yeah, my life is really, really sweet. My only reason for sadness is that, in a few more years, the age pill will bring me down. You see, I am not Gen-Z, but a Millenial. I am starring at the big 4-0 a few years hence, and the inevitable decline in looks and health. I had a really amazing, blessed life. But it all must come to end some day. I guess that the final victory of incels and Looksmaxxers over people like us ist that looks and height can's save you from ageing.
Maybe its the UK but I disagree bro. University / college reflects the same average height as the real world too. Infact, I found more good looking shorter dudes (5'4-5'10) who come from families of money in University/college than outside. Short dudes become wealthy, marry an attractive woman, and then send there kids to University. University is a privilege for kids from upper middleclass/wealthy families. Majority of men are unable to afford it so being there in the first place is a luxury. But from my experience it is dominated by shorter, more average height guys. The athletes are tall but they are too busy doing athlete shit they dont even party or go out that much. Could just be Canada/US though cheers mate
Maybe US/Canada is different. The financial barriers to entry aren't so large in the UK because the government gives extremely generous loans that most people will never pay off, therefore prettymuch anyone can go university. I agree when I walk around campus I am average height, but when I go to nightclubs it's a completely different story and most guys are 6', 6'1 or 6'2.
Sad to say, but I have never found a woman I would like to see again at a nightclub. The 3-5 times I have gone to a nightclub, all I have seen are a clientele with bad self control and a blank stare only Tinder could have caused. So I guess there is another bias: "Men who look for women with good values are disincentivized from going again, and men who like a tattooed, loud lady are going to be back".
I am 5'11 and in my country it is barely taller than average. I noticed that at any work place I am like in top 30% of height and in small groups I am the tallest person, but each and every time I go outside I am getting slightly heightmog. This is happening constantly for a few years so I am going to tell a few things 1) Average height does not increase. I see a lot of older men in their 50s who are 6ft+ and they have just the same height as a younger generation. By the way, studies that count men's height usually include people in their 18-40. If these studies say that height stays the same... Well, it actually does. 2) Taller people are more social due to positive reinforcement. I know one dude who is constantly talking about being tall and getting laid every week. He is asian with ugly large face and often get rejected because of his ethnicity but he has rich sex live overall and he is 6'1. I think tho that he is dating wh*res and mid-ugly women but he admitted that his height is the only reason why he is not a virgin. 3) Next generation is going to be slightly taller than the current one. I think that the difference between us is going to be about 1 inch. I often see couples with taller dads and it is usual those who are above 6 foot. For some strange reason they are dating womanlets 5'1 or something and the juggernaut law is the main reason I do not believe that height is going to explode in the future.
@@gj9157 yes, and due to juggernaut law they are reproducing fast enough to compensate for taller men. I don't believe in this narrative where zoomers are all 6'3 or something because with that logic every woman gotta be 5'11 or something but I see them rarely.
I am between 5'11-6'0 relatively above average from Turkey. According to statistics, Turkish man are the shortest in Europe with an average height of a Turkish man is about 5'8 and a half and all my grand parents are 5'7. But new generation is about 5'10-5'11 if the height of a generation increases like an inch or two it means that you are on a good side. For example, when you are looking for a country like India average height depreciates year by year.
Even as a guy who is 197cm / ~6.5, I cant "capitalise" on my height, because lots of guys in my town is 175cm+. You really cant find much short guys here. So I cant stand out that much only with my height, so I try to focus on fitness and get slimmer/more muscular, because I am still a bit chubby guy
@@Lieutenantfollicle well, I had one gf before, and I realised that some (few) girls "liked" me, but still, most of them would trade a bit of height for better physique/face/money-status, so I dont have that much advantage, since there are an abundance of guys
I simply do not believe that height is as important as you guys always say. I am 6,3 (191 cms) and I never saw that working to my advantage. Girls always passsed me up for someone much shorter but facially more attractive. I dont udnerstand why the heigh issues gets so much attention. Facial attractiveness is king... everything else is secondary...
blackpill states that face > height, but height is still decently important. In your case, the other guys the girls chose over you were probably at least over 5'10, so they weren't short at all.
Idk if you're right about that, but in public I tend to have much better chances than normal. I have a pretty decent looking face and I'm 5'7 with muskles.
i live in syria and am 182.5m barefoot .. 184-185m with shoes and boots .. believe me i still find my height average here at college or as i walk down the street a lot of guys at my college have the same height so being 6ft or 6'1 doesnt make the cut anymore.. the average height is skyrocketing all around the world not just in europe and america
@@jmghfnrtckljhyijnm Some people only bring excuses. They wanna have everything free without working for them. They want that Chad blue-pilled life. It´s like crying over not winning the lottery and wanting to give up on life. Believing in being an inkwell (if you're not below 4in FACE and below 157 cm height ) is an excuse because I always see people on streets(in central Europe) with 4/10 faces with hot blond girls kissing them with passion.
3:26 You also have to think that the average guy at a uni is 17-20 years old, your still growing to some extent not just in height but also filling out. Your frame doesn’t really fully mature as a man until about 24,25. I was still growing height wise until 21.
Most guy stop growing in height between 17 and 18. Sure, there are those who keep growing until 21, and there are also those who stop at 14 or 15. Yet those are deviations from the average. After 18, on average, a man does not grow more than 1 cm.
Would you rather be 5’7 chad or 5’10 normie? According to wheat, they are equal. I think the chadlet is an obvious option (5’7 Zayn Malik v 5’10 normie)
@Greg Army Mogs Mr Chad i agree with wheat where, height with sex appeal will get better results in degenerate environments for low quality women in clubs, but i think looks are more important for warm approach (given your 5'7+) and going for avg height women
Zayn is Chadlite? Are you insane? He is the prettiest man out there and women, especially younger ones, are all about pretty men. Your male gaze means nothing in light of female gaze
5'7 chad, because in real life just being taller than her is often enough or being the same height, and sometimes she's okay with you being shorter when your face is very good, i often see attractive girls (face) picking the face over the height
@@SpecialAbonnentid rather be the chadlite provided he ages gracefully the issue its not really a fair question because 5'10 normie doesnt really have much goiing for him in this market a better question would be a 5;9 chadlite close to model status verse a 6 foot htn ie good looking but not male model that would be extremely not sure who would win because the chadlite would met an acceptable height threshold but the htn would be 6 feet and still pretty goood loo
I'm 198cm, pudgy, and not the prettiest man. The only ones in my friend group that get more numbers than me are those that go to the gym. Get tall or get swol.
Would you actually be 178 cm, I’m 179cm(measured accurately I’m actually nearly 180 in the morning) and I’m the same height as guys who “claim” to be 6ft. Many guys overestimate their height. Whenever a guy says 5ft 8 is short their more likely to be 5ft 6
As a man who barley stands five feet tall, I’ve realized I have no chance of ever dating a woman so I learned to find other things in life (hobbies, goals, etc) to help me cope. I am content in life and I haven’t developed a hatred towards women I just unconsciously accepted that I came up “snake eyes” in the genetic lottery and by accepting that I gained freedom.
This was very interesting actually. I'm a guy in my 40ies and it seems you youngsters have crazy competition going on with each other, I mean among men for status, and competition for women for being "selected". Phrases like "I was no longer the mogger, I was no longer able to compete, I got completely destroyed" show how stressful this nightclub experience might have been, and what a comparison/competition game is going on. Is this really today's straight dating world? Only the 10% most attractive guys have good cards? I really don't like assessing attractiveness on a scale, eg, a 7 or a 8, we're more than that as human beings. I'm gay which means I never went into the straight dating world, but I think it used to be a bit different 20 years ago. Many of my short colleagues at university had attractive girlfriends and were seemingly doing just fine. I guess social media have set us up for crazy competition regarding looks, which is not doing us a favour. I do realise that women always found me attractive and over the years I indeed got at lot of compliments for my 6'3 and muscles, ie, these Chad-features as it is now called, although I absolutely never felt like a "Chad". I never had problems finding guys for dates, and it is also because of my physical features, I'm aware of that. Nevertheless, there are many many gay guys of my age who are much shorter and still had lots of dates and also long-term relationships. However there is a dominance/submission game ongoing, where height is perceived as a dominant feature which will then fuel expectations regarding your sexual role. But in general, it seems the dating market has really become much tougher, I think it's time to stop this craziness and move back to healthier attitudes. It seems the capitalist competition game has permeated all aspects of life.
Be happy you aren't young right now. Im almost 24 and it's tough in every way. Young people are very very superficial and rude. And it's not getting better unfortunately, worse actually......
Glad I came across this comment as an over 40 year old in America. "Destroyed, mogged" etc. I remember being in the club watching dance-off's with folks looking a sweaty mess but smelling like Coolwater and Marlboros. Sounds like these kids walk around with Terminator/Dragon Ball Z Scouter vision checking stats😂 sad though because I have young ones coming up.
I had opposite experience. I am 5,7 and there are lot of guys at my university that shorter or close to my height which really surprising. There are larger number of chads but i have seen many truecels also
I am from Poland too and i can say that young generation is so tall. It's strict natural selection amd genetic supremacy. I'm 5,7 too. Many young women are my height or more. It's over
do I have hope to grow taller I am a 5'7 and 15 years old and 8 months old male and my 2 friends are around the same age as me and are 6'1 and 6'4 and I feel rly short next to them also my 10 year old brother is already 5'3 and hes most likely gonna be taller than me when hes fully grown also to many people from outside especially males and university/college students and high school students tower over me way to much I even see some females in the streets are taller than me once in a while and all of this stuff is making me rly miserable and insecure am I stuck at 5'7 forever or do so I still have time to grow #################### #########@@~~@@@@###@@@~~@@@@@#####_--###### ###@@
@@albertelmgart3402 Cope Zoomers are at best 1 inch taller than millennials! Find me one study that says that zoomers are significantly taller, than other generations you literally cannot. Your pulling these statistics out of your ass, the average white zoomer is 5'10 at best
@@albertelmgart3402 It's because a lot of 5'9 to 5'10 guys are lying about their height and saying that they are 6ft when in reality they are 5'9 to 5'10, that is why you get women thinking that 6ft is average height, because 99% of men are height frauders. The truth is a legitimate 6ft tall which is like 6'0.5 in the morning is actually taller than 75% of White Zoomers, and is a good and respectable height for a guy to have. You might be doubting me, but remember just be honest to yourself you might be shorter than you think if you believe that Zoomers are this gargantuan, unless you live in Scandinavia, Netherlands, Germany, or of course Mogger Spain that has 6'1 average for Med/White Zoomers. If you seriously believe that British Nigel's have an average height of 6'1 in Night Clubs you are beyond delusion, there is a reason why the Emperor of Rome said that British People are the ugliest people in the world, because the truth is that they are on average, and nothing can change it. The United Kingdom is the land of the boneless, Bad Teeth, 5'9 manlet height, Overbites which make their jaw look even more recessed, Long Horse like face, Recessed Mandibles and Maxillas, feminized British accent, and Disgusting sickly pale skin, while Spain is the land of near perfect forward growth, good healthy teeth, perfect bite, forward grown mandible and maxilla, 6'1 Mogger Height on average, Masculine Spanish accent, and a nice tanned skin. The Spanish mog the British so hard that it should be considered illegal, that is how bad it is to be a Nigel. Average Nigel's in the Night Clubs are 5'10 at absolute max for all of the reasons that I just mentioned why they are inferior to the Spanish, while in Spain it's like 6'2 to 6'3 in Night Clubs. The UK doesn't mog shit it's literally the land of the recessed have you ever been to the UK, everyone there is ugly asf just like Russia, if you want to see good-looking people go to a Mogger Country like Spain where most of the people are forward grown asf, due to superior testosterone levels. This is also why I don't believe that Wheat is anything above 5'8, because he is a Nigel, and Nigel's don't mog shit.
@@mcamara3914 France is a curious case, since a lot of people from the northern coast, the German and the Belgian borders are ethnically germanic. The height difference compared to southern France, in the borders with Italy and Spain is really noticeable.
Man I'm 23 and I wished I knew that most guys in uni were skinny - would have taken the gym more serious - I guess better late than never but In my environment pretty much everyone is jacked but thankfully I'm tall and OK looking which would separate me from the other jacked guys
after frauding my big forehead and getting jaw surgery for overbite, dyeing eyebrows, losing weight and clearing my skin i could be a 7 easily. pretty good eye area, curly hair, amazing frame for my height, semi warrior skull, couple of girls were interested in me. if i wasnt nerfed by being 5'7.5, i would be a pvssy magnet
I'm 18 6'4 have a great physique. I basically went max looking mode for 2 years. And whenever I try to pick up women in my college they reject me or give me fake numbers. I feel like in america its impossible but I'm going to travel to see :}
Girls don’t give a crap about height I been saying this for the longest lol 😂 it’s gonna take a few years for black pillers to realize it’s all about attractiveness
@@shameshotproduction it’s not height being attractive bro height is the equivalent of social status in a way. It’s like millions of women saying lil baby is extremely handsome when he’s tripping on percs, they’re saying it cuz of social status but height doesn’t = attractiveness
@@raskult simply not the case, it has a social status element to it but women are biologically wired to find tall guys attractive. As a 6 5” dude I can assure you that the female gaze comes my way completely due to it. It’s like if a girl has a really nice ass or something, it’s one aspect of attraction.
Just discovered Honest Waffles, amd im a big fan of the more personal experiences to prove blackpill. Im 6'3 164 pounds making me a stick, ive still had great success due to prettyboy niechmaxxing and it helps that I play ice hockey, but just wanna say thanks for this type of content because in my personal experience height is THE single most important factor and the blackpill is real guys. Thanks wheat.
Lol we got the same height and weight, I also look like a stick but I'm gaining some weight now because of the gym and extremely caloric diet that I have, I was like 155 pounds last summer.
@@Goatlikeitornot holy shit .... you 2 guys are super light weights for your height. I am 192cm what is 6 foot 3 and honestly even i atm feel like a light weight. My weight atm is 92 Kilograms. I lost a lot from 101 kilograms being lean the last month. But holllyy shit guys. keep in mind i am unter 10 percent. But guys... Do something. I mean unless you guys arenot chads with a pretty boy face and pretty boy features you need to get more. Even then it makes your face better when you pack up at least muscles to around the high 80 kilograms. I can never be a pretty boy. I have very masculine features in my face. But i am naturally masculine anways so being in this role is natural anyways. BUt guys you need to gain some weight. I am scared that you guys die from no food xD.
@@zenbrucelee2653 so we’re the “gigachads”?? I’m under 200lbs by maybe 5-7 pounds but I’m 23. These boys sound like superskinny. I’ve never heard of heightmogging before (I’ve never heard _any_ of these terms and I don’t understand them) but these guys, I can’t even imagine what they’d look like. Skeletons?? 😭 Still, they should hopefully be fine, I’ve gone through my uni days and gotten up to a lot of fun. Never had issues pulling girls. I didn’t/don’t think were that tall, I think we’re normal, but they’re just a bit on the anorexic side. I think my success is just being outgoing and open, and taking my shot. I’m not superbuilt, just ‘slightly athletic’, I still like to swim, run and cycle; I wrestled, but only in highschool, I did your typical field, pool and cycling, skiing in winter, football the rest of the year. I think I’m actually lean, which is why I’m surprised about these waifs!! But yeah, show up, advertise your daily special, and take your pick.
@Russell Westbrook yelling at women and children Even though I agree, we're superskinny it still feels odd having these randoms in the comments saying were skeletons and shi 💀 goodluck to you on your looksmaxxing journey bro 💪
do I have hope to grow taller I am a 5'7 and 15 years old and 8 months old male and my 2 friends are around the same age as me and are 6'1 and 6'4 and I feel rly short next to them also my 10 year old brother is already 5'3 and hes most likely gonna be taller than me when hes fully grown also to many people from outside especially males and university/college students and high school students tower over me way to much I even see some females in the streets are taller than me once in a while and all of this stuff is making me rly miserable and insecure am I stuck at 5'7 forever or do so I still have time to grow ###### @@@@@@@@@@###############--###########****@@@@,,########################@@@;;########*********############~~~~~~@@@@@@@####'''##########
@@LadyMariaEnjoyerI think we just notice who’s taller constantly because society and the internet is making height a big deal. I’m 6’1 without shoes and will notice the 4 people taller than me but not the past 20-30 people I walked by that I was taller than. At this height I’m taller than about 86-90% percent of people according to height percentiles. Social media has made it all we notice.
As a Mexican guy who is about the same height as you, I always felt tall because most Mexicans are very short-often of small stature. I realized very late that most European-descent people are actually very tall, and that I’m not even tall by their standards.
Dude were are you living. In my city (in northern Germany) you would get height and frame mogged into oblivion. I am 190cm tall, weight 83kg with a athletic physique probably at the same level or more defined than WW. And I still get called stick by one of my friends, he is 173cm and 85kg pounds but jacked af even though I am as strong as him (we both Lift 100kg on a bench) he looks so much more jacked and massive than me, he also has bigger arms mine are 37cm and his are 40cm. It’s just hilarious how much more jacked he looks, he literally looks like Baki Hanma. What my point is, if you don’t weigh as much as your height-100kg then you look like a stick and get mogged. I actually find it funny that people fear to get too big when going to the gym. Looking to big is basically impossible when training naturally and having average genetics and even with roids or good genetics it will take you years to get too big and it still may be impossible if you are lean. I mean look at Vitali Klitschko he is 202cm tall weights 112kg and looks absolutely perfect he is definitely not too big and it’s also not male gaze or some shit, he has the physique that most women actually desire and that is literally unmoggable.
I mean 83Kg very different on small height because your tall you going to need more mass maybe like 90KG look at nba players before and after pics a lot of them was tall and skinny before hitting the gym
@@RealSodz exactly. I actually want to go up to 100kg while still being 10% bodyfat. This would make me pretty much unmoggable in 99% of environments. But it’s also very hard I actually went up to 83kg from previously 73kg before hitting the gym and I am still around 15% bodyfat and you can see my abs
Stop acting like the height avg in Europe is so high, I'm 6 ft 5 and I've been there and I was taller than almost everyone. The only people taller were old guys who were like 6 ft 6-7.
University is a 4-6 year night club in terms of height choosing... if you lack height, improving in other physical and performance areas, and looking for potentials who either culturally or individually don't overvalue height could be productive
There was a guy at my uni who was slightly below average facially but was 6"2/6"3 and pulled ebery week. It goes to show that height is probably more important.
There are too many 6”2 - 6”3 guys in my age group for that height to save a bad face. I’m 6”1 and feel barely above average, even average in some groups.
If you’re watching this and feeling bad, you need to go touch grass. The world isn’t as black and white as you think it is. When you spend your entire existence in these echo chambers then you start to places more importance on things like height and physical attractiveness when in reality women just want a confident masculine man. Even if you’re below 5’6 you can still have great success with women if you develop charisma. Don’t feel too bad if you’re short. Being confident is more important.
Me being 5'4 getting moged by middle schooler's
@@nofreewilltakethepill bro stop telling that bs to others many teenagers are in community and may have get an idea of roping. And for me don't worry
@@anujpatidar2008 it's joke bro, imagine roping just for that
@@nofreewilltakethepill
Stfu... Just delete that comment
@@anujpatidar2008 bro atleast u mog ants 🐜
@@shivam2516 In India height doesn't matter that much bro as average height of girls is around 5'1 so like I would be about 5-6 inches taller than girl if go for short girls plus shoe lifts. And also arrange marriage will always ahead. My big bro ( cousin ) is same height as me maybe little more attractive and hella rich and have married to absolute 8.
I've always had this feeling that nothing destroys your chances with a girl more than the girl height-mogging you.
Exactly, but thankfully i'm pretty lucky because where i live its pretty balanced : There's not many tall women.
I face mog everyone I encounter so I don’t really care about my height
Iam 1,90 and was a Virgin until 24 cause i Have a Bad Job but Girls we're Always attrakted to me unill they found Out thad i have a Bad job
@@PrivatPrivat-ox7qr you can’t be too blessed in the face if that’s the case bro.
@@PrivatPrivat-ox7qr what's your definition of a bad job?
The reason why you get height mogged is because a lot pf people way shorter than you are recluses who stay away from social situation that would result in them being heightmogged
💯💯💯💯🎯
Holy shit society is ruthless
Absolutely true. Most short guys stay home because they know how brutal it is out there.
Which can raise the average height at many places to well above 6ft.
Literally me
Yep. I noticed this. If you look outside of a club (never been inside one) you will see tall guys and women in high heels walking around like telling shorties to stay away. Short guys would be in cars so you won't see them pass by.
Most Height averages include old people and people that barely leave the house. When you go out, whether to a bar, a club or to school, you quickly realize the average height in any given situation is MUCH higher.
I work at a bar and on an average day I see hundreds of men that are well over 6ft. tall.
If you're even an inch under 6ft. you are at a severe disadvantage in modern dating.
Women don't give a DAMN if the average male height is 5'9" in America when every club is packed with 100 guys that are over 6ft.
Average height is actually the average height of 19 year old men, the claim that "it includes a lot of old people" is wrong and assumes that old people are short, here in the Netherlands I meet a dozens of men older than 50 who are well over 6'6 every day.
@@CR-rm4iy yes, in our 60s though, not our 20s!!
it's because most short people don't go out
@@spamsam-qq7wd so how do you shorties hook up?? Apps, church (church?!) or what??
I’m still not sure I’m buying this anti-short mentality.
What difference does it make to a girl how tall you are? What is it that I can do that a short person can’t? I don’t get it.
@@Lucas-gm3bv If a girl can choose between two guys she is going for the taller one. easy as that. If somebody offers you an iPhone 10 and an iPhone 13 for the same price you go with the iPhone 13.
height matters if you feel short being 5'10, then i find that hilarious. i'm 5'6 dating is non-existent. As you have mentioned in your other video's i've given up on dating just focusing on me best thing i've done. This channel's content is 100% fact, it sad seeing a lot of video's lately attacking your channels. Keep this content coming as we need to wake more people up to it
At 5'6 with an average to below average face is
I hope you still achieve happiness in life Despite your conclusion❤
@@noblenormie1179 GL GL GL
Take out loans and go for limb lenghtening. If you have nothing to lose, you might as well get some inches.
@@skomants2997 No , don't do this.. don't risk damaging your body for a woman. Guys, WOMEN DO NOT LOVE MEN. Period.. Look at the divorce rate, it's 53-56%. These are couples that promised to love each other forever.. Women get tired of being with the same guy for too long, think they can do better and leave.. Granted, there's some good women out there, but in general, women are not loyal.. Why go through leg lengthening, just to get laid more often? Your health is more important
You should dye your eyebrows a darker colour. It will give you a big boost in looks!
exactly .. i think he would ascend to the low-tier chadlite category if he eyebrowmaxxed
@@basselalkhatib1324 Yeah! He already has compact almond shaped eyes, he just need to dye his eyebrows and his eye area would be great.
Also, he should grow a goat t beard.
@@childfreesingleandatheist8899 Eh I think for men with light hair would look better clean shaven.
even with more kg and muscles can enter the chadlite zone
I'm a 173cm Portuguese and i have a good looking face/good social skills/good engineer degree. I can confirm that night clubs competition was very cut through.
1st mistake: going to clubs
Should have been a doctor
Is 173cm short for a male in Iberia?
@@dabocousin being a degenerate doesn't help
@@nocturnus8666 Nah I'm Portuguese too and it's just really average height. Although you do get quite a lot of tall people too
I met up with my friends at the bar about 2 weeks ago and also noticed, that about a half of guys there were chads or at least chadlites. My conclusion was that normies an sub5s avoid this kind of places, because they already know, that they have no chance of success when approaching a girl there.
Most men are realizing that cold approach is Chad/Chadlite only.
Same with dancing, all women go to dancing events and if a woman is bad at dancing nobody would ever tell her and she would delusionally believe that she's a good dancer, meanwhile a man who is even an above average dancer would be told that he "sucks" because only the top male dancers are accepted on the dance floor.
@@-haclong2366 I would never tell anyone that they are bad at dancing cause we are going to party. We aren't going to a competition. I want to get drunk and move to loud music. Men that come for flirting are in the way of my fun. Getting rid of people is hard.
Bars and clubs are overpopulated with 6'0"+ guys for a reason. They're the only ones that know they have a chance
@@-haclong2366 very true
I'm 5'6, I would literally kill to be your height
hit gym bro
Limb Lengthening
@@shivaayslayer3900foolish
You're cooked
same
Thing about the arm wrestling is that we all know gingers get a +25% Strength bonus when they consume alcohol.
What?
I have a ginger friend who is skinny but is the best arm wrestler on high school
Although I'm just 5'7 I tend to have decent luck compared to guys a few inches taller. My brother's are both 5'9 with a bigger bone structure but I would always get the positive attention from relatives because my face is more attractive. To be honest I think circumstances matter a lot. I only get lucky when I'm out with some good friends having a good time and conditions are ripe. Now that I'm older I simply don't have as many interactions, but I still get the sexy eyes when interaction is a necessity.
The more that I watch your videos the more I feel like the black pill is true. I am someone who might have been considered a chad in college. 6’2 230 lbs with relatively low body fat percentage, good muscle mass from constant gym training and diet, above average facial attractiveness and 130 iq. I had my body count in the double digits by the end of my first year at college. After putting on some weight in fat after college during Covid, I am treated like shit by women of varying attractiveness although not only am I nicer and more conscientious, but have my life in order as well and making a lot more money. It leads me to believe that women base their attraction solely on looks and nothing else. Stay strong brothers it’s a rough dating market if you aren’t perfect
"had my body count in the double digits by the end of my first year at college" Lets applaud this man, most men would dream of such numbers and this guy is casually pulling it off.
@@adamg6711 *was, as it's now in the past. To a woman neither your past nor future matter, only your present. You could buy her a diamond ring and tomorrow she would have forgotten it and ask "¿What have you done for me lately?".
Bro shut up
More proof that status, money and personality are nothing compared to looks. Having a good physique is absurdly important.
@@Krelian4400 I don’t know where you get that from. I never discuss the topic (it’s the biggest red flag), and I’m having no problems (I’m 23, well out of Uni.)
I’m 6 foot but I can’t imagine being mogged by many guys. I’ve boxed for like 20 years, which has contributed to my confidence a lot. So if someone is taller than me, my body language and mannerisms don’t change.
I’m probably going to lengthen my limbs, I really don’t like being 5’10”. I read the max you can do safely is 6 inches, but I first have to measure my wingspan and make sure everything is proportional and will be proportional. I’m just not satisfied with life. I want to dominate more men and mog them and make them look small. And on top of that? Being rich and owning guns and armor? I’d be so unstoppable honestly.
@@Us3r739 possibility the dumbest idea, what are you a child? If you are still a teenager judging by your childish ideas, I would recommend HGH, TRT and anavar about 2-8UI of HGH per day, with 250-500mg of trt per week, and the dosage for anavar you can search it up but do a low dosage just because it's oral. You will grow that's what I've been doing for the past few weeks and even though I am 19 and at the end of growing cycle, I still grew 1-2cm, which means probably because of my fast results either I was deficient of HGH or TRT, either I was not heaving enough sleep as now I sleep a lot more. Either way it's much better than any surgery that will put in a wheelchair for half a year to a full year and then of course 2-3 years of recovery, that's a lot of years that you will lose instead of focusing on what you can change in life for real, either way even if you do get this surgery you will still need HGH and TRT and anavar mostly because your bones and muscles will be very atrophied and you will need to get them strong and thick
@@Us3r739bruh
@@Us3r739 where did you read that 6inches is safe?
Nightclubs are a snakepit for us averages. Honestly, I can`t come up with a single reason to visit it.
Me either, i naturally avoided nightclubs because of height and (mostly my face).
@@spartanghost9713 Not just because of height IMO. Why go to the nightclub in the first place? What are the benefits?
@@ShadowbannedAccount In my case, none. But if you are a tall + handsome guy, you will get a lot of girls without resistance.
its such a sausage fest too, dont see the point of going
Basically a slave auction house. THey just want to put the top tall guys and women in heels up in front to breed. You're basically PAYING the slavemaster to enter and dance and drink
I don't agree with the blackpill but the feeling of being surrounded by guys who are taller than you is a truly embarrassing experience. I am supposedly average height (179cm, just over 5'10) and it feel like at least 70% if the people in my college are taller than me. Even the girls. I send my prayers to guys who are shorter than me and I hope they find some peace in their lives
what makes you not agree with the blackpill `?
even in the netherlands girls taller than 180cm is very rare like 2-3%
in the uk and usa its more like less than 1% even in tall ethnicities either those girls are wearing heels or you buddy are 170-172cm max
are you dutch or scandinavian?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL omg what an idiots brainwashed blackpiller. "even the girls are taller then me" girls are taller then 179 cm ofc bro.
as someone who lives in Germany really tall country rarely I see girls over 179 cm. even a young guy in germany who is 179 is 99% ok with height.
face is MUCH MUCH MUCH more important then height once you reached 178 cm.
once you reached 180 cm and you have pretty face even a a guy who is 190 cm is insignificant. there is a critical mass in height and once you reach it that's game. other factors come to play.
Don't send me prayers, I don't need them. I'm 5'6 and I can date. Those who can't are just whiners.
Me being 5'6 getting mogged by my own dad
Blame your mother
@@UpwardNinjablame the dad for marrying a short girl
@@manthanmehta-q6g
Blame the dad for being a dickhead to his own son. How fucked up is that
@@manthanmehta-q6gShort girls are attractive
Blame your dad then 😂
Most guys don't know their true height. I've found that guys who think they are 6ft are usually truly 5'10. And the guys who think they are 5'10 are closer to 5'9. Anything legitimately over 6ft is negligeable unless you're in the 6'4 range. But any true 5'10 guy is easily 6'1 - 6'2 with shoes and no one notices.
@Greg Army Mogs Mr Chad won't call him a liar
But if he's 5'10 it's more than likely with shoes. He likely got mogged in other areas. And being ginger is a huge handicap.
Shoes don't at 4 inches bud
@@keysersoze657 Lifts đó.
@@keysersoze657 Shoes only add 1 inch of height or so. If a guy puts lift inserts in his shoes, it'll give him another inch on top of that or so. But 4 inches from wearing shoes? You'd have to be wearing some high boots for that.
Most guys know how tall they are, they just do mental gymnastics to add more. I mean I’ve seen 6’3-4 guys claim they’re 6’6
I’m 6’1 and have had generally good success in comparison to my friends who would be shorter. Although I remember a girl, who I had a fling with, ended up dating a 5’6 guy instead of me. She was 5’4. So height makes a difference, especially in a night club but outside of this environment it’s minimised a bit.
Height in crowds is like face on Tinder, in this specific environment it rules supreme but outside of it it actually isn't nearly as important.
@@-haclong2366 Women mostly only date looksmatched men bcuz those men are often more desperate and accommodating towards the woman. Casual sex is different.
bc the short guy was more good looking or more muscular or more intelligent than you but if he was exactly like you and shorter she would chose you
Height doesn't make you a good partner for a long-term relationship.
Sure in a nightclub its easier to spot a person if he is higher but that doesn't mean anything for a relationship.
@@GuidetteExpert height matters a lot. If she's not physically attracted to you she won't fuck you in the relationship.
If you're under 5'8" ITS OVER.
If you're between 5'8" to 5'10" you've got an insane uphill battle.
Between 5'10 to 6' you are still going to have to work really hard.
6' to 6'2" should be like shooting fish In a barrel.
Over 6'2" like shooting fish in a barrel with a grenade launcher.
Don’t matter if your tall you still gotta put in hard work. Your perception of height correlating to dating is skewed. My friends and I are between 5’7 and 5’11 and never had any problems with dating 7 to 9s. We’re all athletes and women come naturally. And not all people over six foot have it easy, if they don’t in effort women are repulsed by them and prefer shorter guys they work on themselves more, It’s not some Herculean task like you say it is.
I'm 5'7 what should I do? Kill myself ?
WRONG😂 so wrong, I'm 5'10 and had no issue with height ever. My dad is 5'7 and was the biggest player I know
@A Guy As a 5'8 guy myself, hope is fragile.
@@Fightookaishii you can always grow taller, but your height is not bad to begin with.
Women don't care if you can do a pull-up or not. They are skeleton-sexual: facial bone-structure, shoulder width, and height above all else.
Your brain on blackpill doomerism
When she is threatened by men in an alley or a suitor that wants to steal your girl, will the strength of the guy not matter?
The Blackpill doomers that worship fools like TAILS don't have an answer to this, since they never even came close to a woman.
What would their answer be? "Women can defend themselves now". Our million year old biology can be undone with 60 years of feminism. Sure thing bro!
💯💯💯💯
True
Yeah only bad if they can’t see your bones if they are covered in fat. Also they are attracted to lean faces and you can actually get broader shoulder if you train them and put on muscle. Just look at the transformation of Christian Bale
I’m 181cm and some people i know are massive and are like 6,5(2m) so women will always go for the genetically enhanced men
As 170cm man I am mogged 24/7
I feel you.
Try beeing 165
I got rating from Waffles a half year ago and I keep maxxing following his recommendations. Maybe it will be 0,0001% chance to succeed, but I prefer this scenario than 0% because of not trying...
@@KACPER98PL what did you get ?
25 year old kissless virgin here. My face got 4/10. I also calculated SMV using Waffles formula: 5,32/10. Since last rating I've lowered Body Fat percentage from 19% to 16% thanks going to the gym. This week I got second Carboxytherapy for skin under eyes to reduce dark circles. Next month I'm going to go for Rhinoplasty and Septoplasty for my curved and crooked nose
I live in europe and been to many places in europe and i’m 179cm, so basically the same height as wheat waffles. I very rarely get height mogged, if I do get height mogged it’s by some nerd or unattractive guy so I don’t give a shit because I face mog them. Technically my height is average, however I’d say i’m taller or same height than maybe 70-80% of men I come across, i’m not even joking. I even have friends who claim their 187cm and when I stand beside them it’s literally such a minor difference, it’s definitely not a mog. I think people over exaggerate the height topic, yeah if you’re like 160cm you get mogged everywhere but anything above 175cm it’s really not that crazy.
Yeah I'm 178cm and these guys are delusional (5'10)
Travelled with a 6'2 (189cm) Friend recently and the height difference was minimal, I thought he was only 2 inches taller than me lol
Usually when I go out i'm average/slightly above average anywhere I go
It’s only bad in Northern Europe and some Eastern European countries. I definitely noticed the mog in Amsterdam. The height difference between the Dutch and Germans is noticeable
Bullshit dude. I am the same height and i get heightmogged all the time. I live in sweden but traveling in other european countries aswell. People are tall as trees
@@loosecannon6142exactly I am 5'11 and currently 17 in high school and 95% of guys in my class are the same height as me or taller than me. Only 3 guys are shorter than me so I don't think you mog at 5'10 it's average.
The thing is even though half of men at the night club are top 10% they aren’t the ones who typically approach the women. It’s always the less attractive ones that approach the women.
Anecdotal evidence?
this is ur bullshit opinion man take the coping sumwhere else buddy boyo its over. get used to it.
The top 10% men don't have to approach because they wymen either approach them or make it easy for them(dance right in front of the guy until he notices it). I used to club a lot with fymale friends back in college, if they see a guy they like they will do everything they can to make it easy as possible for the top 10% guy.
@@albertwesker8883 Even the top 10% of men will still have to approach. Most women do not approach men it’s just a top 10% man will 90% of the time not get rejected if he approaches.
Almost always the men is gonna half to approach.
I don’t want to hear you complaining at 5’ 10”
Many out here 5’6-5’7”. You are atleast slight above average.
Yeah not much more, but still noticeably above avarage
Im 21 years old and 5"3 and at this point I just swallowed hard the black pill and moved on with my life ( gym, hobbies, career etc) You lose interest in dating eventually and once you accept it, thats when you'll be at peace with yourself.
Good on you. I'm 32 and also 5'3, but during my 20s I was delusional and struggled hard for an entire decade without realising the BP. The sooner you are at peace with yourself, the better. All the best.
No bro don’t give up I’ll advise (if you’re white) you go to Asia where there are plenty women who want white men who’d be shorter than you or if you really want a western woman I’ll suggest you make up for your height in other areas like having a good looking face, money ,status. It’s gonna be tough but it definitely increases your chances and you should also target short average or little bit above average looking girls (5-7) and your priority should be a marriage like relationship because it’s near impossible to be sleeping around.
If you've completely accepted it, you wouldn't be commenting here. You can't just accept being treated like a subhuman by everyone. It's not acceptance, it's "cope".
@@anthonycoleman654Its not going to help his son tho
Hey brother I'm 5'1 and spent 6 years B Pilled. Don't take it in full until you're 30-35 and have spent 9 years actually building yourself up. It's not fair that us short men have to learn to fly to reach beds chad can walk to, but it's worth it if you find the right partner. I'm not going to suggest you work hard for a landwhale, but there are good women out there who will love and respect you... but unfortunately you gotta spend a few years loving and respecting yourself first.
Nightclubs are a huge scam. Actually you need to be very top because woman at nightclubs are treated like celebrities
13:43 simple solution dont go to club looking for women. Have fun have a drink or two if women offers to dance, you take it 😂
Also, for guys is worse, rn they don’t even let you get in without women. Huge scam
@@danield7789 idk which clubs you guys go to. I always go in with my male m8s 😂
These are the kind of titles I subscribed for
6'2 and got no play until 22 at uni, it was w a semi decent woman tho and she stayed in my life for well over a year learned a lot from the experience
6’2 is short
6'2 is midget lol I'm 6'5
Bruh what I’m 6,3 what’s going on here 🤣 i gotta add 1 or 2 more inches ig
@@Realitycheck0530 6’5 is the bare minimum
Bunch of weirdos
While I agree with this mostly I have to admit I’ve gotten mogged at 6”2 by dudes who were 5”8 face, body matters more then height in my opinion
Lifefuel. I had a 6'4 friend who was incel but he did everything wrong. No style, nerdy clothes, dad bod etc.
I’m curious where’d you get mugged?
Truth face>height>body
lol... think I'm 5'6" tall and also have an ugly face. My life is simply hell. You can count yourself very lucky, trust me.
Get in the gym, train hard and become the best version of yourself bro. Don’t listen to these pathetic blackpillers who give up on life just cause things aren’t going well for you now. Progress takes time. Stay blessed king
@@princeofallsayings166 which country are you speaking about?
@@princeofallsayings166 If it was up to me, you would be living under the gym.
@@princeofallsayings166 gym is cope , exercising at home even better
@@princeofallsayings166 the gym is not gonna work if the person if 5'6 and ugly.
I'm 5'6 and I was thinking the same way as you in my early 20s at university. I was shy and timid with girls which is a HUGE turn off for them. In my 30s I gained lot of confidence through success that changed my behavior and that was a game changer. I also worked on my body language, tried to look even more confident. Being short is a true disatvantage on dating sites, but not necessarily in real life. When you're in the center of attention and look very confident, your hight is no longer a factor. Try to talk to anyone around you with confidence and a good body language, women will notice. I'm 50 now, I've seen a lot of things, I know you still don't believe this but showing confidence and being somebody is way more important for women than your height or how handsome you are. Women attact to confindent men.
just be confident bro
This doesn't work like that
@@flickscout6195 It works exactly like that. You just can't do it.
😂😂😂
@@criscrosxxx What's so funny?
Mostly true. New friendships and cliques are done very early in the first semester. If you do not connect, you will have issues social and in dating.
Which is fine, really. I'm in my 40ies and can tell you it doesn't matter if you connect with anyone at university or not. You just go on with your studies, go to clubs, meet people anywhere and everywhere else. After 4 or 5 years you'll have your degree, will likely move out of town or out of your home country for work, and will make new friends. The university clique will be long forgotten by then. Totally overrated. You can be a content loner at university with a private life outside the uni setting.
@@christophdenner8878true
Well I fucked myself. Wonderful
I had the most success with girls during Uni years in swimming pools and spas, where women go to relax and they don't expect to get hit on.
For a guy named Honest Waffles, you don't seem honest at all my guy.
I estimate your height to be 5'5/5'6 and you're coping/trying to make real 5'10 guys feel bad because you're shorter. These guys at the night club are probably between 5'9-5'11, you're just short and don't want to admit it.
Either that or this whole video is literally a troll/social experiment.
The imperial metric system is also at fault here because in other countries girls will talk about guys being 180cm but that is 3cm shorter than 6ft and therefore is easier to acheive on average.
It's because 6ft is where you breaks the cap of 5,..ft and it sounds better, just like 180cm is a rounder number than 179cm and therefore is the cap to be broken up to reach the minimum height in their book.
Spitting facts
Yeah 182 cm sounds so much better than 5' 11" like i am
Im 5'11 and 94kg. Ive been lifting weights for about 10 years and am relatively lean. I do fairly well with women on nights out, i will almost always have options. I must say having muscle does really help, even women who say they do not like it, most of them do when they realise your not self obsessed and do not take steroids. A lot of women want to touch you, a lot say they feel safe when with you. Easy pickings realky. Much more than women though, having muscle leads to many, many men asking me food, weights, training splits on nights out.
Your comment is 1 year old but still have to say 94 kg is not "lean" at 5'11
@yendevus1747 you seem confused. Lean is related to fat free mass. Fat free mass is calculated by subtracting body fat weight from total body weight, total body weight is lean plus fat. So if you are lean, it has nothing to do with weight, the reason a weight quite a lot is because of muscle mass. My body fat % is less than 10%. Lean does not mean skinny. Simply low levels of fat. Hope that clears it up. Fk hamas.
5'11 really isnt a bad height bro just wear shoes with thicker soles and your basically good
Me regretting why i wasn't athletic in my puberty instead i was a chubby weak guy 😢
Still have time, it's never late. Get a gym and a sports ( mma or football ) membership now
Wheat waffles I appreciate how good at fitness you are. I would not sacrifice fitness for pure brawn. I am 17 and I dont train in running but I am naturally fast and my best 5k was only sub 19 minutes. I heavily commend you for your athletic prowess. I hope I can reach your level or better in the future.
@Stefan / Educated Tyrone very true
Wheat is not 5'10 no way he gets height mogged by 80% of guys at the clubs, more like 5'8
@Stefan / Educated Tyrone cope framecel
You think being a 5'10 guy in college is bad? Try being me at 5'4 and at 21 years old. Good luck man, love the content somewhat tall shorty.
At university I was shorter than probably 80% of men (walking around at 6'0)
thats cruel man. i am 5' 11"
The only reason the "average" is 5'9 is because of old boomers and immigrants. Men in their 20s who were born in the west are basically all 6 ft +. University is such a massive blackpill.
wow!which country r u from
@@muslimcel4581 looking at his name probably Sweden
@@TetsuoTakayamaCyberpunk Iceland
The honesty is amazing
@GregArmyStrong he seems like 5'7 at max
6'1 is not average height in night clubs that is Ludicrous!
most fat short people don't go out what do you expect
I’d say it is. Dudes will just show up for EZ box. 😂😂
True it’s more like 6’3
That is ludicrous! The average height in night clubs is 6'5 not 6'1! Preposterous!!!
@@B59h
Tf you mean, bro, it's 7'1
Lol I’m 5 ft 10
I really wish I was 5 11”
But I’m even more glad I’m not 5 9”
As a 5’6” guy I’d love to be 5’9” lol
the difference between 5'9 and 5'10 is literally less than 3 cms
I’m actually 5 10 and a 1/2 😊
im 5'6 and i get heighmogged but there are like 5 men shorter than me and like 15 the same height
Don't worry bro you will definitely grow till li 18 atleast just sleep right eat right exercise right and enjoy life
I'm 5'11 and i asked my sister (5'3) if i'm tall or not and she said i'm too short.
Then i asked her how tall she thinks the avg height of a man is, and she answered that what she consider man is anything up 6'1
😅.......
It must suck as a brother, knowing that your own sister is a shallow low quality girl.
She said 6 1 and up it's only man to get??
@DroneKrasher Vids pretty much the only ones she looks for
@@fdrc9255 im 6 1. Imagine barely making the cut for your low IQ sister 😔
The average height for men in southern European countries tend to be more in the 174 cm-range...
I can confirm, I'm 188cm and I rarely come across someone my height.
@@gonzalomartin682 true, but sometimes its weird feeling if you have 190cm and one guy is taller ☠️
Excactly my head around 5ft 9.
@@gonzalomartin682 country??
@@rishbahpandey8697 Spain
Wheat Waffles = Liar
The Average Height in a Night Club is not 6'1, Wheat is a coping projecting manlet who is lying about his height and he is not even 5'10 anyway, I would say more in the ball park of 5'7 to 5'8 and he is lying about his height up 2 to 3 inches like all normies do, because apparently is it is neurotypical to lie about your height, but that is not the point. The point is that it is ridiculous to say that the average height of a guy in a night club is 6'1 when Zyzz the legend himself claimed 187 cm and was taller than most guys in Australian Raves which is basically the same thing as a Night Club. Wheat you are just coping 5'7 to 5'8 manlet and those guys at the night club are 5'10 to 5'11 average height guys, just accept the reality and stop coping! I can't believe that Waffles is 5'10 when he says he gets height mogged by 80% of guys, that is sounding more like 5'8 or below range, even in night clubs they are not significantly above average. I rarely see a guy that is 200 cm or above that is like 1 in 1000 height or greater, and you don't have to be a giga height mogger to attract females, because average height is enough if you got the face.
Zyzz was 6'0
His brother is 5'9 or 5'8 lol
@@rgzp7742 Even worse for waffles in that case
@@rgzp7742 His brother is 5'8.5
Yeah he's in denial about his height, I'm a legitimate 178cm (5'10) and if I wear 2 inch lifts I'm practically taller than everyone in public whenever I go out
Just youtube "Nightclubs" on here and you'll see that the men there aren't as tall as he'd make them out to believe - Even in Sweden they're around the same height as the women who wear heels
Damn is 5'8 that bad
I use to be fat and short and all my friends tall and skinny. Now I'm married, bought a house before 30, successful, still short but lost a lot of weight, then buffed up while my friends are all still tall, fat, single and talk about how depressed they are about their lives. The day I stopped focusing on my height and just did my work is the day I turned my life around, got out of that sad and pathetic lifestyle and started progressing. It's all about mind set and self discipline.
I'm 5'4 btw. So even shorter than most short men.
@@xenoslayer217Amazing
This is exactly
How life can go a lot of the times shorter guys usually have better marriages
Bruh don't tell them to do work, they need cope for there laziness
Finally, a guy with a brain. I'm 5'6 and totally ok with that. If you feel inferior, you act inferior, and people will see you as inferior.
Being at university is already a privilege, a good chunk of men can't even afford going because of how expensive it is, me and a lot of my male friends couldn't go to uni and had to start working early, and as of right now, I work during the day and have classes during the night so I can finish my degree. I am saying this so men don't get obsessed with height when they're already in a place that makes things such as hookups and meeting new people such an easy task. I know a lot of twigs (i'll use your word) that have no social skills, are not even that tall and just look like crap that had a chance to meet so many people and even women just because they were in that environment. My advice is simple, get in shape, even if you're 5'10 you'll stand out, majority of people you see around are either skinny or out of shape, so being in a decent shape will already get you in really good position.
cant afford it. anyone can go. with a student lian dummy
They were at least average tho
Not a problem in the UK because of the way student loans work here
Can’t you just get a student loan? I never understood that excuse
@@DefunctYompelvert Come live to Spain and you will understand the excuse. Not every country's education system is the same.
I'm 5'5. I threw the towel and gave up on dating 3 years ago. I have since decided to focus on my career, fitness and hobbies and it's been nice to not have distractions that are derailing me from my personal goals.
I've never dated. I usually just go to clubs to get laid or at least kiss someone or dance with them. Last time it was a 35 yo. I'm 20. She was kinda cute though.
Maybe it is true that in the UK everyone is skinny, but in the US people are generally larger (and fatter). Also most people here go to the gym regularly. So for young men in American uni, you would probably be dead average there.
The heightmogging is generally accurate but you are probably seeing taller people more because shorter people tend to be less socially active because they know (consciously or not) that their height is a detriment.
Being a short guy, i agree 💯💯💯💯💯 !
Facts, Americans are fat but also gymcel like crazy
Either it's most people are fat or most people go to the gym. It can't be both
Most guys do not actually go to the gym, it’s just for show. Going to the gym isn’t enough to build a good physique, with good discipline you’ll easily overtake them.
Why does height seem to be more important in the Anglo world?
I live in Spain and I'm remarkably short, yet many girls seem to not care that much. I'm going to study in the UK next year and I'm wondering how I'll be perceived over there
how tall are you
@@andrewk2812 5'6"
@@marcosbona8260 me too haha but I have no problem attracting girls. Don't listen to these taller normies
@@andrewk2812 based chadlet
@@marcosbona8260 As a short person you may have access to less girls, but if you can attract every girl that accepts your height, you can still have many options.
I’m not sure about nightclubs. The people here that go to nightclubs here aren’t chads at all and average height besides the few tall guys
usually shorter people tend to be less socially active so it kinda makes sense
Getting girls st nightclubs is easy
I agree that people exaggerate. However, they probably are slightly taller than the average. Usually tall people have tall groups of friends and when you go to a night club the tall people stand out, so you stop noticing the shorter people.
I visited my son at college recently. It was interesting to watch girls checking him out. He’s 6’-7” and 210lbs.
What a loser
I'm 5 10 and usually get with a girl every night I go out alone. With friends less so cause I don't like leaving them and I kinda end up stealing them by accident.
Night club lighting makes people look better, once the light goes on you see the difference. But yeah there is a higher percent of more attractive men. In my city I never thought a frat party or night club was that different
I feel you, brother. I am 6'3 1/2, and I have been height-mogged by 6'7 ultra-studs that are not as uncommon as they used to be in the past. I don't know what they are putting in the water, but boys are growing really, really big these days. I am 6'3 1/2(1.92 meter), I am supposed to be at the top 1,.5% in height, and yet there isn't a single day that I don't see a guy at least 2: taller than me. The new generation is crazy!
Same bruh. Same height. It’s stupid to worry about this tho. We are plenty blessed already. Remember the majority would kill to be u.
@@gdup1728 True, especially since my face is also way above average, and I did photpgraphic modeling in my teens.😁The only reason why I wasn't Prom King in high school is because I had a serious health problem with a rlative that precluded me from going.
Don't get me wrong: I am not complaining. I have been treated like Royalty my whole life, since I was a little boy. All I am saying that over the past few years I have been seeing an unusual number of 6'5+ guys, when gus that are like 6'6 or 6'7 are supposed to be a fraction of one percent of the population. The other day for the first time I ever, I saw 4 young guys that were all as tall or taller than me. The "shortest" one was my height, the other was slightly taller than me and the other 2 looked to be 6'6. First time I experienced what a manlet must feel like. Gen-Z boys are growing like weeds! But, yeah, I am still a massive 6 inches taller than the average male.
I am not religious at all, but some times I ask myself why I was given so much while others were given so little, especially since I am not a super good person or anything like that. I don't think that the geneticlaly superior such as ourselfves should mock short and/or ugly guys, because it's really not their fault. We also did nothing to deserve what we have.
But, yeah, my life is really, really sweet. My only reason for sadness is that, in a few more years, the age pill will bring me down. You see, I am not Gen-Z, but a Millenial. I am starring at the big 4-0 a few years hence, and the inevitable decline in looks and health.
I had a really amazing, blessed life. But it all must come to end some day. I guess that the final victory of incels and Looksmaxxers over people like us ist that looks and height can's save you from ageing.
I'm 6'2 and got brutally mogged by a 7 footer, still remember it to this day and it gives me nightmares
being mogged when ur 178 is BRUTAL
he is a 4/10
@@ugly_indian_scammer 5.5/10 is the actual facial rating of wheat waffles.
Maybe its the UK but I disagree bro. University / college reflects the same average height as the real world too. Infact, I found more good looking shorter dudes (5'4-5'10) who come from families of money in University/college than outside. Short dudes become wealthy, marry an attractive woman, and then send there kids to University. University is a privilege for kids from upper middleclass/wealthy families. Majority of men are unable to afford it so being there in the first place is a luxury. But from my experience it is dominated by shorter, more average height guys. The athletes are tall but they are too busy doing athlete shit they dont even party or go out that much. Could just be Canada/US though cheers mate
Yo what you doing here my brother
Maybe US/Canada is different. The financial barriers to entry aren't so large in the UK because the government gives extremely generous loans that most people will never pay off, therefore prettymuch anyone can go university. I agree when I walk around campus I am average height, but when I go to nightclubs it's a completely different story and most guys are 6', 6'1 or 6'2.
@@honestwaffles fair enough mate keep up the good work this new channel is heading in the right direction
Yo Denmo nice to see you here bruv 😊
"Athlete shit," you mean hoarding entire sororities of women?
Sad to say, but I have never found a woman I would like to see again at a nightclub. The 3-5 times I have gone to a nightclub, all I have seen are a clientele with bad self control and a blank stare only Tinder could have caused. So I guess there is another bias: "Men who look for women with good values are disincentivized from going again, and men who like a tattooed, loud lady are going to be back".
yeah people who dislike the atmostsphere just go home
yep the same people everywhere
I am 5'11 and in my country it is barely taller than average. I noticed that at any work place I am like in top 30% of height and in small groups I am the tallest person, but each and every time I go outside I am getting slightly heightmog. This is happening constantly for a few years so I am going to tell a few things
1) Average height does not increase. I see a lot of older men in their 50s who are 6ft+ and they have just the same height as a younger generation. By the way, studies that count men's height usually include people in their 18-40. If these studies say that height stays the same... Well, it actually does.
2) Taller people are more social due to positive reinforcement.
I know one dude who is constantly talking about being tall and getting laid every week. He is asian with ugly large face and often get rejected because of his ethnicity but he has rich sex live overall and he is 6'1. I think tho that he is dating wh*res and mid-ugly women but he admitted that his height is the only reason why he is not a virgin.
3) Next generation is going to be slightly taller than the current one.
I think that the difference between us is going to be about 1 inch. I often see couples with taller dads and it is usual those who are above 6 foot. For some strange reason they are dating womanlets 5'1 or something and the juggernaut law is the main reason I do not believe that height is going to explode in the future.
As long as short women exist, the average height won't increase very much.
@@gj9157 yes, and due to juggernaut law they are reproducing fast enough to compensate for taller men. I don't believe in this narrative where zoomers are all 6'3 or something because with that logic every woman gotta be 5'11 or something but I see them rarely.
@mayaspare5772 Yeah you can't listen to those crazies. The average height isn't some conspiracy, it's been around 5'9 for decades now.
I am between 5'11-6'0 relatively above average from Turkey. According to statistics, Turkish man are the shortest in Europe with an average height of a Turkish man is about 5'8 and a half and all my grand parents are 5'7. But new generation is about 5'10-5'11 if the height of a generation increases like an inch or two it means that you are on a good side. For example, when you are looking for a country like India average height depreciates year by year.
Even as a guy who is 197cm / ~6.5, I cant "capitalise" on my height, because lots of guys in my town is 175cm+. You really cant find much short guys here. So I cant stand out that much only with my height, so I try to focus on fitness and get slimmer/more muscular, because I am still a bit chubby guy
197 is 6’6 and is absolutely huge, that huge it nearly a turn off for some women, but you can still go and mog chadlites even if you are normie
do you look lanky?? maybe try to get some muscle to offset it
@@Lieutenantfollicle well, I had one gf before, and I realised that some (few) girls "liked" me, but still, most of them would trade a bit of height for better physique/face/money-status, so I dont have that much advantage, since there are an abundance of guys
@@jmghfnrtckljhyijnm nah, my body is proportional, only bigger issue is my body fat is high imo
Thats too tall
I simply do not believe that height is as important as you guys always say. I am 6,3 (191 cms) and I never saw that working to my advantage. Girls always passsed me up for someone much shorter but facially more attractive. I dont udnerstand why the heigh issues gets so much attention. Facial attractiveness is king... everything else is secondary...
blackpill states that face > height, but height is still decently important. In your case, the other guys the girls chose over you were probably at least over 5'10, so they weren't short at all.
Idk if you're right about that, but in public I tend to have much better chances than normal. I have a pretty decent looking face and I'm 5'7 with muskles.
Are czechians tall?
@@NoRockinMansLand Yes, all Europeans are crazy tall except for Mediterranean which are closer to global average to above average.
@@NoRockinMansLand it's Czechs and generally yes
i live in syria and am 182.5m barefoot .. 184-185m with shoes and boots .. believe me i still find my height average here at college or as i walk down the street
a lot of guys at my college have the same height so being 6ft or 6'1 doesnt make the cut anymore..
the average height is skyrocketing all
around the world not just in europe and america
simple only tall men are getting kids,short men nope.
@@dirkdeprez8434 also richer people
@@dirkdeprez8434 I see casually short men with bounch of hos on street.
6ft should be plenty, imagine being top 10 percent height and still making excuses
@@jmghfnrtckljhyijnm Some people only bring excuses. They wanna have everything free without working for them. They want that Chad blue-pilled life. It´s like crying over not winning the lottery and wanting to give up on life. Believing in being an inkwell (if you're not below 4in FACE and below 157 cm height ) is an excuse because I always see people on streets(in central Europe) with 4/10 faces with hot blond girls kissing them with passion.
65 KG? Best I can do is 40.
I can bench 100kg but I still look like a stick
3:26 You also have to think that the average guy at a uni is 17-20 years old, your still growing to some extent not just in height but also filling out. Your frame doesn’t really fully mature as a man until about 24,25.
I was still growing height wise until 21.
Most guy stop growing in height between 17 and 18. Sure, there are those who keep growing until 21, and there are also those who stop at 14 or 15. Yet those are deviations from the average. After 18, on average, a man does not grow more than 1 cm.
Would you rather be 5’7 chad or 5’10 normie? According to wheat, they are equal. I think the chadlet is an obvious option (5’7 Zayn Malik v 5’10 normie)
@Greg Army Mogs Mr Chad i agree with wheat where, height with sex appeal will get better results in degenerate environments for low quality women in clubs, but i think looks are more important for warm approach (given your 5'7+) and going for avg height women
Zayn is Chadlite? Are you insane? He is the prettiest man out there and women, especially younger ones, are all about pretty men. Your male gaze means nothing in light of female gaze
@@Blkpllhe said chadlet, not chadlite
5'7 chad, because in real life just being taller than her is often enough or being the same height, and sometimes she's okay with you being shorter when your face is very good, i often see attractive girls (face) picking the face over the height
@@SpecialAbonnentid rather be the chadlite provided he ages gracefully the issue its not really a fair question because 5'10 normie doesnt really have much goiing for him in this market a better question would be a 5;9 chadlite close to model status verse a 6 foot htn ie good looking but not male model that would be extremely not sure who would win because the chadlite would met an acceptable height threshold but the htn would be 6 feet and still pretty goood loo
I'm 198cm, pudgy, and not the prettiest man. The only ones in my friend group that get more numbers than me are those that go to the gym. Get tall or get swol.
FYI, getting a number is still a rare event.
Would you actually be 178 cm, I’m 179cm(measured accurately I’m actually nearly 180 in the morning) and I’m the same height as guys who “claim” to be 6ft. Many guys overestimate their height. Whenever a guy says 5ft 8 is short their more likely to be 5ft 6
🤣🤣🤣…whenever I ask someone how tall they are…and they give answer…always subtract 1-2 inches off because they always lie…🤣🤣🤣
-Sigma Male
As a man who barley stands five feet tall, I’ve realized I have no chance of ever dating a woman so I learned to find other things in life (hobbies, goals, etc) to help me cope. I am content in life and I haven’t developed a hatred towards women I just unconsciously accepted that I came up “snake eyes” in the genetic lottery and by accepting that I gained freedom.
6 foot 1 is not enough in Northern Europe
@@dinfastbro, I just got back from Sweden and a bunch of the women out there were around 6’. It’s bad for any man under 6’3”
This was very interesting actually. I'm a guy in my 40ies and it seems you youngsters have crazy competition going on with each other, I mean among men for status, and competition for women for being "selected". Phrases like "I was no longer the mogger, I was no longer able to compete, I got completely destroyed" show how stressful this nightclub experience might have been, and what a comparison/competition game is going on. Is this really today's straight dating world? Only the 10% most attractive guys have good cards? I really don't like assessing attractiveness on a scale, eg, a 7 or a 8, we're more than that as human beings. I'm gay which means I never went into the straight dating world, but I think it used to be a bit different 20 years ago. Many of my short colleagues at university had attractive girlfriends and were seemingly doing just fine. I guess social media have set us up for crazy competition regarding looks, which is not doing us a favour. I do realise that women always found me attractive and over the years I indeed got at lot of compliments for my 6'3 and muscles, ie, these Chad-features as it is now called, although I absolutely never felt like a "Chad". I never had problems finding guys for dates, and it is also because of my physical features, I'm aware of that. Nevertheless, there are many many gay guys of my age who are much shorter and still had lots of dates and also long-term relationships. However there is a dominance/submission game ongoing, where height is perceived as a dominant feature which will then fuel expectations regarding your sexual role. But in general, it seems the dating market has really become much tougher, I think it's time to stop this craziness and move back to healthier attitudes. It seems the capitalist competition game has permeated all aspects of life.
Dating is not hard at all. Just pay cash, $70-$100, and these broads will bend over.
well how do you think we can move away from this mess ? whats the solution ?
@@ThomasJosephHampson Deja vu
Be happy you aren't young right now. Im almost 24 and it's tough in every way. Young people are very very superficial and rude. And it's not getting better unfortunately, worse actually......
Glad I came across this comment as an over 40 year old in America. "Destroyed, mogged" etc. I remember being in the club watching dance-off's with folks looking a sweaty mess but smelling like Coolwater and Marlboros. Sounds like these kids walk around with Terminator/Dragon Ball Z Scouter vision checking stats😂 sad though because I have young ones coming up.
I had opposite experience. I am 5,7 and there are lot of guys at my university that shorter or close to my height which really surprising. There are larger number of chads but i have seen many truecels also
Wow I thought people in Poland would be a bit taller... At least the Ukrainians I know that they are really tall on average
@@renanvinicius6036 There are tall it's just my university . I have never seen 5,5 man before it
@@kubakaczmarek2399 I think 165 guys are rare anywhere in the west haha but not exactly older people, older people you will find frequently anywhere
I am from Poland too and i can say that young generation is so tall. It's strict natural selection amd genetic supremacy. I'm 5,7 too. Many young women are my height or more. It's over
@@Keroloth92 don't worry bro, at least you are likely to live more, woman you can always find somewhere else
Lol ppl think even the sub 5s get easy play in uni it’s basically tinder irl from what I’ve seen
173cm which is 5'8 (2 inches above average height in my country) in SEA and still gets mogged occasionally
do I have hope to grow taller I am a 5'7 and 15 years old and 8 months old male and my 2 friends are around the same age as me and are 6'1 and 6'4 and I feel rly short next to them also my 10 year old brother is already 5'3 and hes most likely gonna be taller than me when hes fully grown also to many people from outside especially males and university/college students and high school students tower over me way to much I even see some females in the streets are taller than me once in a while and all of this stuff is making me rly miserable and insecure am I stuck at 5'7 forever or do so I still have time to grow ####################
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I don't believe that Wheat Waffles is truly 5'10 if he says he is getting height mogged by so many guys!
Zoomers are taller
@@albertelmgart3402 Cope Zoomers are at best 1 inch taller than millennials!
Find me one study that says that zoomers are significantly taller, than other generations you literally cannot. Your pulling these statistics out of your ass, the average white zoomer is 5'10 at best
@@albertelmgart3402 Cope I am not even 6ft tall like 5'11.75 and I height mog like 80% of zoomers that I meet!
@@albertelmgart3402 It's because a lot of 5'9 to 5'10 guys are lying about their height and saying that they are 6ft when in reality they are 5'9 to 5'10, that is why you get women thinking that 6ft is average height, because 99% of men are height frauders. The truth is a legitimate 6ft tall which is like 6'0.5 in the morning is actually taller than 75% of White Zoomers, and is a good and respectable height for a guy to have. You might be doubting me, but remember just be honest to yourself you might be shorter than you think if you believe that Zoomers are this gargantuan, unless you live in Scandinavia, Netherlands, Germany, or of course Mogger Spain that has 6'1 average for Med/White Zoomers. If you seriously believe that British Nigel's have an average height of 6'1 in Night Clubs you are beyond delusion, there is a reason why the Emperor of Rome said that British People are the ugliest people in the world, because the truth is that they are on average, and nothing can change it. The United Kingdom is the land of the boneless, Bad Teeth, 5'9 manlet height, Overbites which make their jaw look even more recessed, Long Horse like face, Recessed Mandibles and Maxillas, feminized British accent, and Disgusting sickly pale skin, while Spain is the land of near perfect forward growth, good healthy teeth, perfect bite, forward grown mandible and maxilla, 6'1 Mogger Height on average, Masculine Spanish accent, and a nice tanned skin. The Spanish mog the British so hard that it should be considered illegal, that is how bad it is to be a Nigel. Average Nigel's in the Night Clubs are 5'10 at absolute max for all of the reasons that I just mentioned why they are inferior to the Spanish, while in Spain it's like 6'2 to 6'3 in Night Clubs.
The UK doesn't mog shit it's literally the land of the recessed have you ever been to the UK, everyone there is ugly asf just like Russia, if you want to see good-looking people go to a Mogger Country like Spain where most of the people are forward grown asf, due to superior testosterone levels. This is also why I don't believe that Wheat is anything above 5'8, because he is a Nigel, and Nigel's don't mog shit.
@@ASCENSION10102 what country?
I'm a 5'8" chad-let. I pick up plenty of women. Confidence and keep fit is my advice
178cm in Spain or France is very different to 178cm in Germany imo.
The average height in France and England is the same. Germany has one inche in plus
@@mcamara3914 France is a curious case, since a lot of people from the northern coast, the German and the Belgian borders are ethnically germanic. The height difference compared to southern France, in the borders with Italy and Spain is really noticeable.
Man I'm 23 and I wished I knew that most guys in uni were skinny - would have taken the gym more serious - I guess better late than never but In my environment pretty much everyone is jacked but thankfully I'm tall and OK looking which would separate me from the other jacked guys
it's not that they're skinny but people who are fat usually don't go out
I've been height mogged for my whole life lol
Great story telling
5'10 is above average (I'm 5'10) 5'9 is average height for a man in the U.S/UK
Having a attractive face is more important I’m 5’10 but 8.5 in looks
Well considering my previous I’ll take that to the bank 😂😂
At university, people are immature. I am 1.65m and would gladly date a guy 1.78m.
after frauding my big forehead and getting jaw surgery for overbite, dyeing eyebrows, losing weight and clearing my skin i could be a 7 easily. pretty good eye area, curly hair, amazing frame for my height, semi warrior skull, couple of girls were interested in me. if i wasnt nerfed by being 5'7.5, i would be a pvssy magnet
Its not totally over
1. Lifts
2. Glucosamine to maintain morning height
3. Have all of your shoes be height maxxing shoes
Don"t rope guys pls
Wafles is absolutely right about this! Even tall isn't enough at a night club. Theyre jacked good looking and alpha.
I'm 18 6'4 have a great physique. I basically went max looking mode for 2 years. And whenever I try to pick up women in my college they reject me or give me fake numbers. I feel like in america its impossible but I'm going to travel to see :}
>6"4
Its so over..
Girls don’t give a crap about height I been saying this for the longest lol 😂 it’s gonna take a few years for black pillers to realize it’s all about attractiveness
@@raskultheight is part of attractiveness. If I wasn’t 6 5” I wouldn’t be pulling much at all with my face.
@@shameshotproduction it’s not height being attractive bro height is the equivalent of social status in a way. It’s like millions of women saying lil baby is extremely handsome when he’s tripping on percs, they’re saying it cuz of social status but height doesn’t = attractiveness
@@raskult simply not the case, it has a social status element to it but women are biologically wired to find tall guys attractive. As a 6 5” dude I can assure you that the female gaze comes my way completely due to it. It’s like if a girl has a really nice ass or something, it’s one aspect of attraction.
This is strange to me as a female. I am happy with men under 6ft
Just discovered Honest Waffles, amd im a big fan of the more personal experiences to prove blackpill. Im 6'3 164 pounds making me a stick, ive still had great success due to prettyboy niechmaxxing and it helps that I play ice hockey, but just wanna say thanks for this type of content because in my personal experience height is THE single most important factor and the blackpill is real guys. Thanks wheat.
Lol we got the same height and weight, I also look like a stick but I'm gaining some weight now because of the gym and extremely caloric diet that I have, I was like 155 pounds last summer.
@@Goatlikeitornot holy shit .... you 2 guys are super light weights for your height. I am 192cm what is 6 foot 3 and honestly even i atm feel like a light weight. My weight atm is 92 Kilograms. I lost a lot from 101 kilograms being lean the last month. But holllyy shit guys. keep in mind i am unter 10 percent. But guys... Do something. I mean unless you guys arenot chads with a pretty boy face and pretty boy features you need to get more. Even then it makes your face better when you pack up at least muscles to around the high 80 kilograms. I can never be a pretty boy. I have very masculine features in my face. But i am naturally masculine anways so being in this role is natural anyways. BUt guys you need to gain some weight. I am scared that you guys die from no food xD.
@@zenbrucelee2653 Did you not read, I am eating, more than you but that's just how my body works. It's going to take years to have a good body for me.
@@zenbrucelee2653 so we’re the “gigachads”??
I’m under 200lbs by maybe 5-7 pounds but I’m 23. These boys sound like superskinny.
I’ve never heard of heightmogging before (I’ve never heard _any_ of these terms and I don’t understand them) but these guys, I can’t even imagine what they’d look like. Skeletons?? 😭
Still, they should hopefully be fine, I’ve gone through my uni days and gotten up to a lot of fun. Never had issues pulling girls.
I didn’t/don’t think were that tall, I think we’re normal, but they’re just a bit on the anorexic side. I think my success is just being outgoing and open, and taking my shot.
I’m not superbuilt, just ‘slightly athletic’, I still like to swim, run and cycle; I wrestled, but only in highschool, I did your typical field, pool and cycling, skiing in winter, football the rest of the year.
I think I’m actually lean, which is why I’m surprised about these waifs!!
But yeah, show up, advertise your daily special, and take your pick.
@Russell Westbrook yelling at women and children Even though I agree, we're superskinny it still feels odd having these randoms in the comments saying were skeletons and shi 💀 goodluck to you on your looksmaxxing journey bro 💪
as a 5‘7 guy who likes to go party, there are always 1-2 girls who are approaching me, means confidence is also the key as a 7/10
do I have hope to grow taller I am a 5'7 and 15 years old and 8 months old male and my 2 friends are around the same age as me and are 6'1 and 6'4 and I feel rly short next to them also my 10 year old brother is already 5'3 and hes most likely gonna be taller than me when hes fully grown also to many people from outside especially males and university/college students and high school students tower over me way to much I even see some females in the streets are taller than me once in a while and all of this stuff is making me rly miserable and insecure am I stuck at 5'7 forever or do so I still have time to grow ######
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@@fewdsafa youre still in your puberty, theres enough time to grow until you’re 21.
Don’t smoke, drink a lot of milk and sleep healthy. Trust me.
as a 6,1.5 6,2 guy i also get height mogged these days 😭😭😭😭😭 idk what they are feeding these kids man
Bro i'd kill to be that tall
No because you’re not over 6ft, lmao.
@@LadyMariaEnjoyerI think we just notice who’s taller constantly because society and the internet is making height a big deal. I’m 6’1 without shoes and will notice the 4 people taller than me but not the past 20-30 people I walked by that I was taller than. At this height I’m taller than about 86-90% percent of people according to height percentiles. Social media has made it all we notice.
As a Mexican guy who is about the same height as you, I always felt tall because most Mexicans are very short-often of small stature. I realized very late that most European-descent people are actually very tall, and that I’m not even tall by their standards.
1_80 es el promedio
Forget the men You are shorter than alot of European women.
@FuckOuttaHere Mexicans generally have more native genetics. They look like direct ancestors of Asians a lot of times
Mexicans are short
Many Mexican Americans arent
@FuckOuttaHere You can doubt it all you want. It's true though.
Dude were are you living. In my city (in northern Germany) you would get height and frame mogged into oblivion. I am 190cm tall, weight 83kg with a athletic physique probably at the same level or more defined than WW. And I still get called stick by one of my friends, he is 173cm and 85kg pounds but jacked af even though I am as strong as him (we both Lift 100kg on a bench) he looks so much more jacked and massive than me, he also has bigger arms mine are 37cm and his are 40cm. It’s just hilarious how much more jacked he looks, he literally looks like Baki Hanma.
What my point is, if you don’t weigh as much as your height-100kg then you look like a stick and get mogged.
I actually find it funny that people fear to get too big when going to the gym. Looking to big is basically impossible when training naturally and having average genetics and even with roids or good genetics it will take you years to get too big and it still may be impossible if you are lean.
I mean look at Vitali Klitschko he is 202cm tall weights 112kg and looks absolutely perfect he is definitely not too big and it’s also not male gaze or some shit, he has the physique that most women actually desire and that is literally unmoggable.
I mean 83Kg very different on small height because your tall you going to need more mass maybe like 90KG look at nba players before and after pics a lot of them was tall and skinny before hitting the gym
@@RealSodz exactly. I actually want to go up to 100kg while still being 10% bodyfat. This would make me pretty much unmoggable in 99% of environments. But it’s also very hard I actually went up to 83kg from previously 73kg before hitting the gym and I am still around 15% bodyfat and you can see my abs
would a 6'1 guy get height mogged there@@thxcaze1416
Stop acting like the height avg in Europe is so high, I'm 6 ft 5 and I've been there and I was taller than almost everyone. The only people taller were old guys who were like 6 ft 6-7.
University is a 4-6 year night club in terms of height choosing... if you lack height, improving in other physical and performance areas, and looking for potentials who either culturally or individually don't overvalue height could be productive
wheat is handsome
waffles : 178cm 80 kg is overweight
me : 176cm 80 kg
family members: you are malnourished you need to eat more!!
yeah parents don't understand
people carry and hold weight in different ways due to different body types and things such as metabolism, so it depends
There was a guy at my uni who was slightly below average facially but was 6"2/6"3 and pulled ebery week.
It goes to show that height is probably more important.
@Max Gill this was in the East Midlands, England.
@Max Gill I'm in London now. It's basically hypergamy on steroids.
I do well on online dating, but it becomes harder and harder each year.
There are too many 6”2 - 6”3 guys in my age group for that height to save a bad face. I’m 6”1 and feel barely above average, even average in some groups.
@@JawnBoyd-rt9gd he had a weak jaw, NCT, thin upper lip and overweight.
@@DavidW-ng5zv what's it like in London
If you’re watching this and feeling bad, you need to go touch grass. The world isn’t as black and white as you think it is. When you spend your entire existence in these echo chambers then you start to places more importance on things like height and physical attractiveness when in reality women just want a confident masculine man. Even if you’re below 5’6 you can still have great success with women if you develop charisma. Don’t feel too bad if you’re short. Being confident is more important.
If you’re 180cm+ height usually will not be your main issue anymore, then other factors become more important
Just 180 at 18 😭 hopefully I grow 2 inches or so!
@@niccolopaganini1782 Lol, I was 180 at 14 and never grew more than 2 cm more...
@@ivandreuxzuev9473 I haven't grown since 17, maybe I will, hopefully.
@@ivandreuxzuev9473DAMN😅