Wooden Boat Building, Installing Deck Beams, Breast Hook, and Lodging Knees, S2-E38
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In this the S2-E38 episode of the Art of Boat Building Bob begins working on the fore deck of the Haven 12 1/2. After installing the breast hook, the white oak deck beams are installed. After creating patterns for the lodging knees, they are cutout and installed.
“If you’re going to make it, make it beautiful.”
Bob Emser
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:52 Breast Hook
7:17 Deck Beams
15:15 Lodging Knees
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She’s looking so beautiful Bob! Amazing work!
Hi,your work is amazing I been watching your videos for weeks and I never get bored I'm planning to do boating work as a hobby in Puerto Rico after I retire from my job as a helper here in Rotella's Italian Bakery 🤭 Good job 👍
Bob, you are the only person that i've ever seen use 5200 and not get it all over yourself! another great video. thanks!
That boat sure has some graceful lines in her design. It's easy to see why you picked it. Great job as always.
When I first started watching the series, I quickly developed a serious case of shop envy. Now on top of shop envy, I've developed a case of walnut envy as well!
She sure is turning out beautiful. You make it look so easy.
Wow, thank you!
Desperately waiting for next video. you are Mr perfectionist. i really love your working style. GOD Bless you. Respects from Pakistan.
Nice lodging knees!!
Your blowing my mind....a Yankee screw driver, brace and a wooden folding ruler. That is the only way to go. Sure feels good using those tools doesnt it....Im a carpenter from back in the day and we had to learn hand tools before you could pick up a tool with a cord. Its refreshing to watch you use those great tools. Where I live 5200 doesnt work very well on repairs due to the extreme low humidity. Its challanging not to be able to use that product since I lived on both coasts and it works fine in the costal humidity.
Coffee Saturday mornings is most enjoyable the weeks you post.
Those joints looks solid and can see your artistry at work as well ..great job Bob! She's looking great!! I can't believe how quick this episode went I felt like it was over in five minutes that's how much I enjoyed watching it.
Always enjoy; thanks so much and Happy New Year...rr Normandy, France
The lodging knees were really cool looking. Why was there a cutout instead of keeping it solid shaped all the way to the coaming board? Thanks for sharing.
I have been watching your series with great interest, having toyed with the idea of building a Haven for a number of years. Well done. Excellent workmanship and compliments on your innovative approach to solving problems that arise. The only thing I would say is PLEASE get some knee pads. I speak from experience that if you keep kneeling on concrete floors your knees will be banjaxed...keep up the fine work!
Here from Brazil in the State of Paraíba in the municipality of Conde in Jacumã, I want to wish everyone on the team, A HAPPY 2021.
Aqui do Brasil no Estado da Paraíba no Município de Conde em Jacumã, quero desejar a todos da equipe, UM FELIZ 2021.
You have the best balance of talk and work. Enjoying every video you have posted so far. All the best in 2021.
I would love to see you building a big sail boat one day.
As always great work Bob great outcome too.
Thank you! Cheers!
a piece of art and joy to watch!
Thanks so much!
I'm envious of your shop
Beautiful work.
Great work, Bob! She's coming along nicely.
Again a great video, which will be of great help to me. I have bought a hull of Haven 12,5, which has been made by a professional boatbuilder, but for some reason not completed. I had the idea of participating a course at local wooden boat school and complete the yacht there, but now, with the help of these videos I think I will be able to complete it by myself at backyard. Working on wooden boats is not new to me, actually I have owned and sailed three wooden boats since 1975, so I think I know something of the skills expected to complete such a project.
That's great congratulations on your purchase! Glad your enjoying the videos. Let me know if I can help in any way.
Cheers,
Shaping up quite nicely, thanks for sharing.
My favorite episode so far! Really coming along. The lodging knees really define the cockpit. Love all the woodworking. Feels like you're rounding the upwind marker...
Thanks, yes I feel good about the progress and that I have crossed over the hump. Still lots to be done however.
Thanks for watching.
Appreciate the use of the Stanley #113. A cigar spoke shave can be an alternative but its not as fun.
Yes, I love my Yankee screw diver. I have a spoke shave on my list of tools to make.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah, I lkve it when they pull out the circular plane too. Upvote for the Stanley 113.👍
Excellent from France Cordialement
THIS is Art !!!
And, until those last days, I had always hated these slotted screws because of their facility to make the screwdriver going away and the slot to be damaged… But you changed my mind, I'm gonna have a new try with them ! These slotted screws give such a "pro" and "roots" look to any assembly !
Really taking shape Bob. Looking good. 👍
She is looking very graceful and classic. Nice work.
Thank you! Cheers!
Bob, I've enjoyed watching all these episodes and am hugely impressed by your work - and by the time and care you take to show us how you do the jobs. She is looking great. Keep it up!
Thanks Adam.
Such lovely work. Thanks for sharing this with the world. Happy 2021!
This was fantastic 🤙🏼
I think this is one of your best videos. I am enjoying the series.
Mary Christmas and a happy new year ! Nice to see all these progress. Looking forward for the continuation.
Perfectionist!
Great look at your progress - thanks again for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Looking good Bob, excellent job on the joints as always.
Thanks 👍
Great work bob. The joinery was very craftily done! As many others have said I really enjoy your process and tips along the way! Love your shop too! Seems like you have it All!
Stunning as always.
Thank you! Cheers!
She is coming along very nicely, that was some complex joiner there. I would have measured twice and still cut it wrong.
You might have sourced some knee stock from Steve & Alix. 🤗
Indeed. If it would be visible in the final boat it would have been a consideration. Those guys are very generous.
Cheers!
Really beautiful work, Bob!!! The boat is looking amazing! 😃
I'm happy you had a great Christmas!
Happy new year! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks, you too!
Great video :-)
Glad you enjoyed it
Progress is being made. Will it be ready by spring? Thank you for sharing. Have a great 2021 and stay healthy.
Thanks Glen, I hope so, most likely mid summer. Still lots to do. I plan on casting the bronze fitting myself.
Thanks for watching!
Happy New Year to you (and your family) :-)
Same to you!
Congratulations on the choice of the use of 3m 5200. It is far stronger than the wood you are attaching it to! In fact some shipwright in the far distant future that receives that boat for repairs and has to remove one of those parts fastened with it will be cursing you in some tongue, we know not what!
You mentioned that the floor beams will be removed later. Why is not necessary to remove the last floor beam? It clearly can’t be removed now that the lodging knees are done. Thanks in advance for letting me know. Thanks for another great video and all the best for 2021.
I think you mean deck beams not floor beam. I will be replacing the steel bolts with brass. At the time I will paint the bilge and having those fore beams removed it will be easier to maneuver while painting.
Thanks for watching!
Cheers
nice compass plane! my wife got me one for Christmas last year. not easy to find these.
Hi Chuck,
They are hard to find ones in good condition that don't cost more than a boat! JK
I'm thinking about making one out of a bench plane as apart of my tool making videos ( had lots of requests ) just have to figure out how!
What a great gift!
Cheers,
Great video as always! Thanks for sharing all those details!!
QQ: why do you use sealant and not epoxy for the joints?
Aaa... polyurethane... good!
Great video Bob and it’s so great to see the boat take shape. Why didn’t you make the breast hook thicker initially so that you match the curvature of the deck beams??
Hi Harvey,
Great question. I did measure the crown on the breast hook and it was almost indistinguishable to a level line. Maybe a 1/64 difference at the most. It will be covered with the deck boards and set in bedding compound. so I elected to just plane it flat.
Thanks for watching!
Cheers,
Bob
good video. I had to struggle to get it to open properly. Kept getting an error message.??
Thank you Bob for another excellent video. Very nice fit of the breast hook and the lodging knees. Did you find any significant difference between the lodging knees? Watching how meticulous you were in framing and planking, I would expect maybe a shaving or two but not much more than that. Take care, stay well and Happy 2021.
Hi Matt,
Yes, there was a slight difference of the two lodging knees. Not much to have any concerns about.
Thanks for watching. Happy new year too you as well.
Cheers,
Bob
Looks great Bob! Are you steam bending the coaming, or won't it be necessary as the curve isn't that drastic?
Typically yes, the coaming is steamed. I'd like to make it out of walnut the match the transom. I don't know if I have a long enough boards so if I need to scarf on I most likely will laminate the coaming.
Thanks for watching!
Really beautiful hull. Looks like it was designed to be strong, yet as light as possible despite the heavily weighted keel. Was this done primarily for performance or to make it more easily trailerable? Will you keep her in the water or on a trailer?
Hi Clark,
Yes, the weight distribution is an important part of the performance. My boat will live in the water during the season.
Thanks for watching.
Really enjoy the boat building, thanks.
Really hate the music - I'm happy with silence or just the sounds of the workshop.
Is there a reason you did not seal the breast hook to protect it from water before you permanently installed it? As always, great work and a fun build to watch.
The breast hook will be covered with the deck boards. It will have marine sealant between them.
Excellent video Bob. I’d like you to explain how the hanging knee can attach to the deck beam at one end and then attach to the sheer at the other when the deck beam rests on top of sheer? The sheer and the deck beam are not level yet the knee looks level from the camera angle used in the video. The knee looks great when you installed it but I can’t figure out how the knee covers height of the beam and the sheer at the same time. I hope I described that well enough for you to understand me.
Hi Michael,
In episode 37 (ruclips.net/video/22Rg8wxq210/видео.html) you may remember that the shear clamp makes a jog from station 6-10 to accommodate the deck beams. Also while taking off the bevels I use the deck crown template to determine what will result in the top of the shear clamp being the same angle or in line with the top of the deck beam, making the inner face of the clamp perpendicular to the crown. So the lodging knee starts at frame 11 before the jog, which makes it's top level with the shear. Because the shear clamp has made it's jog the other end meets the top of the deck beam. So because the lodging knee is at the same angle as the crown it lines up with the top of the shear at frame 11 and the top of the aft deck beam.
I hope this helps. Let me know if it's still unclear.
Thanks for watching!
Cheers,
Bob
Love that bevel gage, but it still too big for the that breast hook measurement. Make yourself some shorter ones from old hack saw blades. Just put them in the vice an break them off at about 2" long. Sand off the teeth, drill holes, and rivet it together with copper slating nails.
Excellent work as what we are used to. That breast hook lost a lot of its stiffness and strength through planing it. I wonder if you couldn't have kept most of its thickness working out the shear clamp?
Yep I'm surprised it wasn't cambered. On the other hand this isn't the finished article, so I guess we could reserve judgment.
The breast hook is install as per Joel Whites plans. The extra thickness of the stock I was using is because that was the thickness of the material I had. I planed it down to the thickness described in the plans. The breast hook will be covered with the deck boards adding strength. Your question about "working out the shear clamp" would have had unsatisfactory results. The walnut stock started at 1 1/8" thick if I had keep it and removed shear clamp thickness, it would have reduced the amount of material to screw into. Also remember the shear clamp bevel works out to be about 5/8" on the bottom.
Thanks for watching!
Cheers,
Bob
The Art of Boat Building No offence meant, Bob! After all, it's your boat. You build the way you want it.
Are you planning to paint under the last deck beam as well?
Hi Hugh,
No, as it's installed to the knee I'll just paint what I can. Painting under the other deck beams really isn't necessary. However, when replace the steel bolts with brass bolts I'll paint while the are out of the way, should be easier to maneuver.
Thanks for watching!
Out of curiosity....why use a flat head screw on the walnut you installed on the bow? I've notice before that boat builders seem to like flat head screws; however, it seems a Philips would be so much better.
This is a common question. I have found Leo Sampson Goolden a shipwright restoring Tally Ho, answered to this question, best said.
Here is his answer.
“The main reason is for the benefit of whoever has to work on the boat in the future. When working on an old boat, slotted screws are by far the easiest to clean out out the slots and remove the screws, especially if bungs have been glued over the screw-heads. Cleaning glue (especially epoxy!) out of a Philips head (or really any other kind of drive) in order to get your driver to grip the screw can be an absolute nightmare. So next time you have to put screws in your boat, spare a thought for the shipwrights of the future!
In visible applications, a slotted head is simply more aesthetically pleasing and historically accurate.”
All screw heads have their application, one is not better than the other it just depends on what you are fastening together.
Thanks for watching,
Cheer,
Bob
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Bob,
Thanks for the reply.....makes sense. I really appreciate the content you produce, it is very interesting and well produced. I can't wait to see this boat when you get it finished. I've been toying around with building a PT11 Nesting Dinghy and watching your videos offers confidence that I could do it.
Regards,
Drew
Why not build a jig and bend the deck beams? I would be worried about strength with the grain runout in such a narrow cut arch.
The curves are graceful, yes, but are they strong? You know more than I about these things, I am asking in earnest.
Thank you.
Hi Thomas,
White oak is incredibly strong. I don't think that laminating beams of that length would give any added benefit. By following the plans I trusting that Joel White knew more that me. The curve actually makes it stronger than a straight section of the same size, as in arched lintels are stronger than straight.
Thanks for your question, watching and continued support.
Cheers,
Bob
How do you source the fine wood you utilize in the necessary lengths and at reasonable prices?
He didn't. I recall that a friend gave him the walnut.
@@CorwynGC I need friends like that.
@@rhpsoregon I think the way to get friends like that, is to be a friend like that.
Stay away from that devil's glue...
10:03 I spy aircraft parts...do tell 🤗
Those are parts of a sculpture I did several years ago for a pop-up exhibit in Chicago during the annual International Sculpture Conference. (2012)
Here is a link to the finish sculpture in situ.
www.bobemser.com/Gallery.asp?GalleryID=124235&AKey=5K235NVB
Good eyes, Thanks for noticing.
Cheers
@@TheArtofBoatBuilding I love the exhibit! Thank you for the link!
A great video, but why did you make a flat breasthook when the rest of the deck is faired (I think that's the right term)?
Hi Mike,
Great question. I did measure the crown on the breast hook and it was almost indistinguishable to a level line. Maybe a 1/64 difference at the most. It will be covered with the deck boards and set in bedding compound. so I elected to just plane it flat.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheArtofBoatBuilding Thanx. That 'splains it. I thought it had much more curvature. Can't wait for the next video.
Should the breast hook have sat flat against the sheer clamp. It looked like there was angle between them that the 5200 didn't even fully fill?
Hi Rick,
I just posted an image in the community section. You'll be able to see it sits flat on the shear clamp.
Here is a link.
ruclips.net/user/postUgy9iJ8Nt5yEQXPQ4UR4AaABCQ
Thanks for watching!
Cheers,
Have you considered the Gorilla glue ultimate? Much less expensive that 5200. Actually, proud comparable to 4200. I’ve only found it online though.
Hi Rick,
I'm not a fan of Gorilla Glue for boat building. Gorrilla Glue expands as it dries and can push wood apart. It's perhaps is an okay choice as alternative to epoxy is certain situations. Gorrilla Glue is good for somethings but not boat building. 5200 is a tenacious adhesive and fill gaps well ( the purpose of bedding compound) and stays flexible.
Thanks for watching and your continued support!
Cheers,
Bob
I was actually referring to their “ultimate construction adhesive”; $10/tube on Amazon. I agree about the regular gorilla glue.
Hi Rick, My mistake. Not familiar with the ultimate. I'll check it out.
I’m wondering, was 5200 Joel Whites choice or did he specify epoxy for those areas?
Hi David, Joel did specify bedding compound. Maynard Bray who has written extensively about the Haven's construction recommends 5200 as bedding compound.
Thanks for watching and your continued support.
Cheers,
Bob
@@TheArtofBoatBuilding Bob, if Maynard says it’s ok then I’m good! I stopped in and saw him at OCH a few years ago. He gave me some great pointers about the boat I’m building. BTW, did I mention I’m also an alumnus of Wooden Boat School 1996. I met Joel White while I was there and had a chat with him. Very interesting man. A wealth of knowledge. He is missed by many. Your Haven is coming along a lot better than my dinghy. It seems that I’m always stopping to do something else. I’ve promised myself to finish her this summer. I’d better hurry....I’m 76!
And it's not like he does it everyday
Brass or bronze bolts?
Brass
Why do craftsmen use a round mallet to tap on chisel.
Wood carving mallets are round to increase the amount of surface area you can use to strike the chisel so you can focus more on your work. They are more balanced and the weight is easily controlled. This allows you to not have to worry about where the flat surface is on your mallet and help you make harder to make cuts requiring more finesse the lack of corners on the mallet also help increase control.
Thanks for your question and watching!
@@TheArtofBoatBuilding thanks
While installing deck beams, you said that they were temporary and would have to come out for paint and sealant, but then you sealed the lodging knee to the frame and one of those beams. Oops?
Hi David,
Yes, I will remove the fore deck beams when I switch out the steel bolts for brass. The other benefit is it will be easier it maneuver when painting the bilge. Paint under them is just a benefit, not necessary.
Thanks for watching.
@@TheArtofBoatBuilding That doesn't really answer my comment: It looks like you permanently installed the lodging knee, connected to the last deck beam. Is that last deck beam not coming out, do you plan to break and replace that sealing, or some other option?
Right, I will not remove the aft deck beam and lodging knees. I will paint them in place.
You really need to wear gloves when working with acid tone! It goes straight through your skin into your system.
"acetone"
You really don't, it's a mild skin irritant. People use it as nail polish remover, it obviously contacts your skin in that application as well.
@@danno1111 'People' eat Tide Pods, so don't take that as a recommendation.
Would have been better without the annoying music.