There's a timeline where Tora beat Lui$ and she somehow gets on the Top 8 and it would been the first time in years Ike has gotten a Top 8 in a Major (unless she already did in Japan cuz their tournaments are crazy) and it would've been monumental Or she would've gotten stopped before top 8 and it would've looked the same as other similar tournaments and Sparg0 still would've won but you know, the possibilities!
I'd heard of Tora before this tournament (Since I usually try to watch Yoshidora when he competes at Japanese tournaments) but after her performance at this tournament, I think I've now become a fan of Tora. She had a pretty impressive losers bracket run here; after getting sent to the losers bracket in round 1 pools and clawing her way all the way up to 17th place. She also put up a damn good fight against the person who ultimately took 3rd place at this tournament, in a really bad matchup for Ike no less. Very impressive showing by Tora.
How is it Lui$ almost getting MU checked? He went up 2-0. This comment would make more sense if Tora was the one that went up 2-0 and Lui$ adapted, but in this case Tora was the one who was doing the adapting.
Ike is not that bad of a character, he may have some shit matchups but most ike players are just bad and lazy and they fail because they expect to win by pressing the nair button, not because the character isn't viable
What neutral tool does Ike have besides nair though? His OOS isn't good, and he's slow. His dash attack, ftilt, and Aether are great at killing, but they're slow and very unsafe. His downtilt and up air are actually great, but they're still outclassed by other characters' tools. Unlike his nair, which is one of the best nairs in all of smash bros. Like, if he wasn't allowed to use nair, I think he'd be a bottom 5 character.
普通に上手すぎるやろ
There's a timeline where Tora beat Lui$ and she somehow gets on the Top 8 and it would been the first time in years Ike has gotten a Top 8 in a Major (unless she already did in Japan cuz their tournaments are crazy) and it would've been monumental
Or she would've gotten stopped before top 8 and it would've looked the same as other similar tournaments and Sparg0 still would've won but you know, the possibilities!
And maybe the first time a woman gets top 8 in a major
@@MrJJ-xm4tr i mean hey, if she travels more and gets a good draw it seems possible
Damn its crazy an unranked Japanese player could have ended Lui$ top 3 run, mad respect to Tora
I'd heard of Tora before this tournament (Since I usually try to watch Yoshidora when he competes at Japanese tournaments) but after her performance at this tournament, I think I've now become a fan of Tora. She had a pretty impressive losers bracket run here; after getting sent to the losers bracket in round 1 pools and clawing her way all the way up to 17th place. She also put up a damn good fight against the person who ultimately took 3rd place at this tournament, in a really bad matchup for Ike no less.
Very impressive showing by Tora.
オフのアイクの空Nよわすぎ
Tora-sanお疲れ様でした! This matchup is so rough for Ike, hard fought!
@@benzoFE88 she is a very good player
とっとっとっとっとらさん
Lui$ almost got matchup checked
How is it Lui$ almost getting MU checked? He went up 2-0. This comment would make more sense if Tora was the one that went up 2-0 and Lui$ adapted, but in this case Tora was the one who was doing the adapting.
Ike Sux unfortunately
Which makes her run that much more godlike
Fundies r kewl
tragic second last stock for ike, but that's how it goes :,)
Great ruin from luis, hope we get to see him making top 8 again
パルテナのDAにガーキャン上Bは反確にならないんか?
猶予8Fだから0.133...秒、人間の反応速度と入力遅延的にもこのゲームスピードではほぼ不可能やね
@raphte3258 ガードした時のヒットストップがあるので、ガーキャンは割と反応しやすいと思いますよ。体感8Fはめちゃくちゃ余裕ある部類だと思います。自分で調べればいいものを、、、すみません、ありがとうございます。
@@masahirosato78 これ多分持ちキャラ次第だと思うんですがアイクってガードするメリット低めなんですよね、ガーキャンが優秀じゃないんでガードした後って確実に掴める時以外はジャンプか回避か安定みたいな
そういう意識の置き方してると咄嗟に上B入力はむずいんじゃないかなと、相手パルテナなんで警戒しないといけない択が多いのもありそうですが
@@raphte3258daは見てから反応できると思うけどな。というか出来ないとキツい
@@rokiloki1023そもそも空前とか1ステップくらいの距離の時にDA打ってくるけどその距離って上り空Nと空前もケアしないといけないから意識配分で読んでないと厳しいって話
発生フレーム負けてるから先に動かれたり技先端で置かれたりしたら基本反撃ないしそもそもアイクがガードからの確反狙えるキャラじゃない
Ike is not that bad of a character, he may have some shit matchups but most ike players are just bad and lazy and they fail because they expect to win by pressing the nair button, not because the character isn't viable
What neutral tool does Ike have besides nair though? His OOS isn't good, and he's slow. His dash attack, ftilt, and Aether are great at killing, but they're slow and very unsafe. His downtilt and up air are actually great, but they're still outclassed by other characters' tools. Unlike his nair, which is one of the best nairs in all of smash bros. Like, if he wasn't allowed to use nair, I think he'd be a bottom 5 character.
Good games. The ike wasn't bad
the Ike is the highest ranked one in the world
Tora is probably our best active player
@@SK-df1iw really, makes sense. Their conversations were pretty good. Ig Palu is just that hard of a MU
@@SK-df1iwshe is the best ike in the world, shes better than the other 2 ike mains around the world
Luis normally destroys Japanese players. Going game 5 is impressive
Really not true he’s lost to almost all of their top players
@@PsychSaenzand got double eliminated by Japan Miya being his bracket demon
@@janswhatsupdoc he beat tora ken and shuton this tournament and beat rimu and hurt twice last time at a local.
@@garm2287he’s also been reversed 3 -I’d by snow and still has yet to take a set of Miya
Wow good set. Very hard matchup for ike. And if this is a real biological girl I'm even more impressed.
@@kylecouture1917 doesn't matter but yeah she's good
トランスジェンダーじゃなくてしっかり女性です👍
VALORANTの舐め腐った女共と違ってしっかり強い方です💪
Mu is basically unwinnable
@@janswhatsupdoc what he meant was literally almost no females play smash 💀 seeing them at this level is like a 1 in ion even know
Facts. Girls don't really do good in Smash, apparently besides SuperGirlKels
オンライン勢特有のその場回避入れ込みほとんど狩られててクカ
衛門ってとらに叩かれたからやっぱり嫌いなの?
自ら衛門である事を自己表示する人って痛いな
はいおつかれw