There were major problems with the plane, way before the wall came into play... Supposedly everything started with the bird-strike while the plane was still high up in the sky, right before the right engine had a small explosion. Everything went downhill after that.
yes we can got to moon or mars but cant make 300 to 1000 fret Sand barrier. some country already has it even with not much room after runway. its cheaper to build. if plane hit sand will save all prople. they have very thin wire mess so sand wont blown away by air. put FAA IN JAIL..PERIOD
And it's never one single thing with these jet crashes. It's always a series of events at the exact wrong time. I'm amazed hearing some of these pilots going to their death on the flight Voice Recorder. And they are calm as cucumbers. Tried to do everything until that last millisecond when it all goes black. The pilot's this week for KLM and the pilots of that dash 8 that landed those planes with no casualties. Are heroes may these poor souls in the south korean event rest in peace
the two guestions are: 1. why they touchdown on the half distance on runway 2. why the speed of landing was double overspeed If bird strike can make that damages which destroy hydraulic and electrical system at the same time? Unbelievable
agree, these 2 are the main questions to ask because it appears the all other issues would have not been fatal, except for the wall. however, the wall was always there and it didn't pose a problem until yesterday, when the landing was short and at high speed while was in reverse position. no one landed facing the wall, except for this crew. why?
@@Julie-hf4chI agree. Problem wasn’t the wall. At that speed they would have hit the hotels. That would have been fatal crash in any international airports.
Perhaps the fact that the pilot had no flaps ment he struggled not to touch down too early with such little control and the aircraft not reponding left it too late and with no flaps or wheels to create some resistance the great speed was the result that took the aircraft at some speed straight into a "reinforced" concrete wall .
When you land with out flaps, there is Air Cussion that makes the plane float for a while delaying the touch down. Which explains why plane touched down halfway through the runway. Appears like confused and panic mode pilots who seem to had good control of trying to land the plane. They could have manually lowered the landing gear with manual levers right behind their seats, which I am not if they were aware or forgot. They didnt take time at all to do any checklist and simply landed hoping for the best. Seriously are these pilots trained to handle emergencies at all. Any US commercal pilot could have saved all the passengers.
This is a typical 'Swiss cheese' accident, a number of issues prior to landing that contributed to the disaster Engine/compressor stall - on first approach - why did they not continue to land? Rushed approach to land on the opposite runway - why change runways? Unstable approach, too fast, no gear, no flaps, a bird strike would not have caused all these to fail? Way too fast a landing and ground effect float (estimated 200 mph landing) ? What is South Koreas policy on runway Runway End Safety Area (RESA), Stopway clearway? Is it ICAO compliant, was the structure 'deleathalised'? The final 'hole in the cheese' was the ILS localiser structure Flight crew error? Was the Airport Certificated to ICAO SARPs? Tragic accident that could have been avoided at a number of points before the final impact
@@tiffanne1622 That's not correct... Runway 1 is the direction they should have landed and what they tried in the first attempt. 19 was the wrong direction (for what they were originaly supposed to do) Runway (opposite direction) the tower approved for them to try on the 2nd attempt.
Why aren't commenters looking at Google Earth street view? If they did they would see the plane didn't impact a concrete wall - it impacted a long, triangular shaped mound of green grass covered DIRT located at the end of the runway and exploded upon impact. The airport's cinder block perimeter wall was not impacted and didn't cause any deaths.
Decision making? All situations in the cockpit have procedures according to the airplane's checklist. What were transmission between atc and the aircraft? Something else is not being said. -right now-
1. Pilot should not have landed without the landing gears out first. 2. If bird strike and one engine stopped, he could still flight the plane with one engine and land safely still. 3. He should have turned off the engines immediately after he touched down, but he did not. 4. That`s gives us a conclusion that the pilot was not experienced and new to this. 5. The concrete wall should never have been build there in the middle of the way at a short end. Very bad and very sad and tragic
Sure it's possible.... the big question is why try to land with no flaps or landing gear but deploy the thrust reversers...at a speed the looks to be around 300 knots. Flaps are electric...the gear come down with gravity...they had total control of the aircraft... makes zero sense.
I shared this under an Independent youtube video and they started calling me names, so i hope this gets a better response and i get to share whats actually happening in Korea with international RUclipsrs. (I'll edit this later) what no one realizes is that the person who recorded this footage was sitting on top of a roof on a Sunday morning, anticipated the landing of this plane and recorded the entire landing from the beginning to end. This airport has rarely been used in the last few years and very very few planes land and take off. I hope someone knows about this before posting a response. They have had one or two take offs/ landing a week, so how did this person anticipate it and video recorded it?? he recorded it on the roof of a random restaurant that probably wasn't even open on a SUNDAY morning, and sent it to a TV station that PREDICTED this 'accident' two days ago. And while airing the news, they sent out a 'message', 817- 1987 August 17th, the same code used by North Koreans in the 80s. the man makes no noise during the recording of this crash. This waa a planned attack, not a mechanical failure. The number 817 indicates to something, no birds although there's bird habitat. This was not a bird strike. the person who recorded the landing is strange enough to record the entire thing from a perfect angle, the footage was then sent to a national TV network which aired a screen full of symbols and words durung live coverage for a brief second, one of them which said, 817. if you ask Chat GPT, 817 is a 'code' used by North Koreans in the 80s. but it's also the model number of a Chinese drone, CH-817.
I won't speak to your other theories, but your information about the airport is incorrect. While it is not one of our major airports, its still typically ranked #11-15 busiest airports in Korea, and used with a good amount of frequency because the other regional airport in this area only does domestic flights, and Muan also does some international. For example, last year they had almost 1,500 flights, and nearly a quarter of million passengers go through that airport. It is not a ghost town airport like you described.
Not really sure how that can be. There are plenty of other plausible reasons that this is being recorded, and those are a) this was the second attempt at it landing (the first original landing was south-north, this was north-south), b) the plane was seen with its engine suffering from a compression stall shortly before that first landing so people would have seen flames from the engine, and c) I'm pretty sure anyone visiting a restaurant next to an airport would like to film the planes land every so often. And also possibly the fact that the first landing may have been attempted without its landing gear only adds to it. Not everything is an attack/conspiracy, but I am curious as to what would have caused the landing gear to have been up among other things.
@@Sugas_Girr You're lying for calling it one of the busiest airports in Korea. They manipulated the airport data prior to opening the airport up as an "international airport". You're lying, and I have no idea why you're lying. This airport has long been known as a "red pepper drying" airport. Since they had no planes coming in or out, locals were drying off red peppers on the tarmac. I don't know if that's true, but a journalist, has visited and showed how empty it was, and it WAS empty. Why would you lie about this?? I can only assume that there's something here.
What about that perimeter structure / fence at the end of the runway - the impact with that structure caused death for many of the victims. Were International standards in end of runway applied in the runway design? Certainly there were hydraulic problems with no gear down and flaps not deployed resulting in a high speed approach and landing that need to be investigated to establish cause of those factors. At touchdown, everyone on board were alive until the aircraft hit the structure in the over-run area that if designed to standards - are designed to allow for over-runs should they occur in aircraft landing long or unable to apply reverse thrusters.and braking capability.
It has been confirmed it was indeed a bird strike there is footage showing the strike but the tragedy was a classic unstable approach less than 3 minutes elapse between declaring emergency and the failed landing not nearly enough time to go over checklist? unless there was some catastrophic loss of total control its looking more and more like PIlot error!!! 😒
He did not want to jump to the conclusion without any solid proof. He shared his thoughts based on the available limited information - I don't think we should expect an expert to make subjective opinions without access to the black box and the voice recording.
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Why are they focused on a bird strike when a cement wall caused the damage?
fun no one talks abaut that wall..lol i mean the wall destroyed that plane instand ..i also dont get it
why they focused on birds strike and do not say anything about speed of landing.... ( double overspeed )
Well, most likely that plane doesn't find that wall if it has its gear down. Or at the very least, the impact is drastically reduced.
There were major problems with the plane, way before the wall came into play... Supposedly everything started with the bird-strike while the plane was still high up in the sky, right before the right engine had a small explosion. Everything went downhill after that.
yes we can got to moon or mars but cant make 300 to 1000 fret Sand barrier. some country already has it even with not much room after runway. its cheaper to build. if plane hit sand will save all prople. they have very thin wire mess so sand wont blown away by air. put FAA IN JAIL..PERIOD
2:14
"Should passengers be worried?"
Aviation Expert: "Yyyyyye.. No..."
Ok, thanks for the reassurance, I feel so much better about flying now. 🙄
A reinforced concrete wall caused the dead of everyone inside that aircraft. Lethal design and very sad 😔...
speed so fast, no flap down, and no reverse thrust
Yes, no flap, no gear, no brake... Why?
@@tiffanne1622possibly hydraulic failure
And it's never one single thing with these jet crashes. It's always a series of events at the exact wrong time. I'm amazed hearing some of these pilots going to their death on the flight Voice Recorder. And they are calm as cucumbers. Tried to do everything until that last millisecond when it all goes black. The pilot's this week for KLM and the pilots of that dash 8 that landed those planes with no casualties. Are heroes may these poor souls in the south korean event rest in peace
Why there's a concrete wall in there ? It's so nonsense
Madness. They reckon it housed the guidance system. They are usually just 'Stuck' in the earth for safety reasons.
The concrete was there to stop a plane at any cost and make the planes explode.
Sim how do you really feel this far from funny
the two guestions are:
1. why they touchdown on the half distance on runway
2. why the speed of landing was double overspeed
If bird strike can make that damages which destroy hydraulic and electrical system at the same time?
Unbelievable
agree, these 2 are the main questions to ask because it appears the all other issues would have not been fatal, except for the wall. however, the wall was always there and it didn't pose a problem until yesterday, when the landing was short and at high speed while was in reverse position. no one landed facing the wall, except for this crew. why?
Cement wall caused the explosion
@@Julie-hf4chI agree. Problem wasn’t the wall. At that speed they would have hit the hotels. That would have been fatal crash in any international airports.
Perhaps the fact that the pilot had no flaps ment he struggled not to touch down too early with such little control and the aircraft not reponding left it too late and with no flaps or wheels to create some resistance the great speed was the result that took the aircraft at some speed straight into a "reinforced" concrete wall .
Send the wall at the end of the runway to prison?
If they shutdown the wrong engine, no flaps gear up landing after a ahort teardrop turn is possible.
Another question is why they touched down so quickly because it didnt give them time to go through the checklist if there was a problem
When you land with out flaps, there is Air Cussion that makes the plane float for a while delaying the touch down. Which explains why plane touched down halfway through the runway. Appears like confused and panic mode pilots who seem to had good control of trying to land the plane. They could have manually lowered the landing gear with manual levers right behind their seats, which I am not if they were aware or forgot. They didnt take time at all to do any checklist and simply landed hoping for the best.
Seriously are these pilots trained to handle emergencies at all. Any US commercal pilot could have saved all the passengers.
They are Koreans and you know what that means
It was a DRONE!
It appears this may have been an attempted G/A and 1 thrust reverser was deployed.... but there are a LOT of odd things going on here.
Yeah no flaps... gear....and landing at 300 knots...with both TRs open...wild.
remote controlled 100%
@@TheUrantia001 don't be stupid.
you know nothing.,..
@@TheUrantia001 Don't be stupid.
This is a typical 'Swiss cheese' accident, a number of issues prior to landing that contributed to the disaster
Engine/compressor stall - on first approach - why did they not continue to land?
Rushed approach to land on the opposite runway - why change runways?
Unstable approach, too fast, no gear, no flaps, a bird strike would not have caused all these to fail?
Way too fast a landing and ground effect float (estimated 200 mph landing) ?
What is South Koreas policy on runway Runway End Safety Area (RESA), Stopway clearway? Is it ICAO compliant, was the structure 'deleathalised'?
The final 'hole in the cheese' was the ILS localiser structure
Flight crew error?
Was the Airport Certificated to ICAO SARPs?
Tragic accident that could have been avoided at a number of points before the final impact
Oh so sad, may God and Jesus protect us from bad things
A passenger texted a photo of bird stuck in wing
@@tiffanne1622 That's not correct... Runway 1 is the direction they should have landed and what they tried in the first attempt. 19 was the wrong direction (for what they were originaly supposed to do) Runway (opposite direction) the tower approved for them to try on the 2nd attempt.
Why aren't commenters looking at Google Earth street view? If they did they would see the plane didn't impact a concrete wall - it impacted a long, triangular shaped mound of green grass covered DIRT located at the end of the runway and exploded upon impact. The airport's cinder block perimeter wall was not impacted and didn't cause any deaths.
Yes, it was an ILS berm.
and why concrete the end the runway ?
isnt there a manual override of the landing gears?
Decision making? All situations in the cockpit have procedures according to the airplane's checklist. What were transmission between atc and the aircraft? Something else is not being said. -right now-
Exactly what I was thinking nothing been said about comms and ATC
179 confirmed dead now
The fact that the airplane was made in Brazil isn’t relevant.
The Embraer was made in Brazil. Not the Boeing.
@ yes. I know. My comment was about how the comment was biased and not necessary.
Could the plane computer been hacked?
1. Pilot should not have landed without the landing gears out first.
2. If bird strike and one engine stopped, he could still flight the plane with one engine and land safely still.
3. He should have turned off the engines immediately after he touched down, but he did not.
4. That`s gives us a conclusion that the pilot was not experienced and new to this.
5. The concrete wall should never have been build there in the middle of the way at a short end.
Very bad and very sad and tragic
The pilots have not experienced being in a fiery explosion.
Is it not possible water landing ?? Sea nearby also to avoid crash..! Can any specialists reply ?
Sure it's possible.... the big question is why try to land with no flaps or landing gear but deploy the thrust reversers...at a speed the looks to be around 300 knots.
Flaps are electric...the gear come down with gravity...they had total control of the aircraft... makes zero sense.
could potentially get rid of the fuel and be foam sprayed on the runaway which didn't' happen.
when human believing in hitech we 've less believing in human.
Pilot became suicidal?
737-800 from I read have A,B, and standby hydraulic pumps. Can all three fail?
Crazy stuff! Jeju is a beautiful island
It didn't happen on Jeju, its just the airline was Jeju Air.
There are not seriously injured
I shared this under an Independent youtube video and they started calling me names, so i hope this gets a better response and i get to share whats actually happening in Korea with international RUclipsrs.
(I'll edit this later)
what no one realizes is that the person who recorded this footage was sitting on top of a roof on a Sunday morning, anticipated the landing of this plane and recorded the entire landing from the beginning to end.
This airport has rarely been used in the last few years and very very few planes land and take off.
I hope someone knows about this before posting a response.
They have had one or two take offs/ landing a week, so how did this person anticipate it and video recorded it??
he recorded it on the roof of a random restaurant that probably wasn't even open on a SUNDAY morning, and sent it to a TV station that PREDICTED this 'accident' two days ago. And while airing the news, they sent out a 'message', 817- 1987 August 17th, the same code used by North Koreans in the 80s.
the man makes no noise during the recording of this crash.
This waa a planned attack, not a mechanical failure. The number 817 indicates to something, no birds although there's bird habitat.
This was not a bird strike.
the person who recorded the landing is strange enough to record the entire thing from a perfect angle, the footage was then sent to a national TV network which aired a screen full of symbols and words durung live coverage for a brief second, one of them which said, 817.
if you ask Chat GPT, 817 is a 'code' used by North Koreans in the 80s. but it's also the model number of a Chinese drone, CH-817.
I won't speak to your other theories, but your information about the airport is incorrect. While it is not one of our major airports, its still typically ranked #11-15 busiest airports in Korea, and used with a good amount of frequency because the other regional airport in this area only does domestic flights, and Muan also does some international. For example, last year they had almost 1,500 flights, and nearly a quarter of million passengers go through that airport. It is not a ghost town airport like you described.
Not really sure how that can be. There are plenty of other plausible reasons that this is being recorded, and those are a) this was the second attempt at it landing (the first original landing was south-north, this was north-south), b) the plane was seen with its engine suffering from a compression stall shortly before that first landing so people would have seen flames from the engine, and c) I'm pretty sure anyone visiting a restaurant next to an airport would like to film the planes land every so often. And also possibly the fact that the first landing may have been attempted without its landing gear only adds to it. Not everything is an attack/conspiracy, but I am curious as to what would have caused the landing gear to have been up among other things.
@MissTalmo those ideas are a little bit mental... so they staged the plane to crash into a wall 🤣🤣🤣
@@Sugas_Girr You're lying for calling it one of the busiest airports in Korea.
They manipulated the airport data prior to opening the airport up as an "international airport".
You're lying, and I have no idea why you're lying.
This airport has long been known as a "red pepper drying" airport.
Since they had no planes coming in or out, locals were drying off red peppers on the tarmac.
I don't know if that's true, but a journalist, has visited and showed how empty it was, and it WAS empty.
Why would you lie about this?? I can only assume that there's something here.
@@MissTalmo You need to learn to read, you absolute dolt.
Pilot error
Pilot inexperience
😢😢😢
What about that perimeter structure / fence at the end of the runway - the impact with that structure caused death for many of the victims. Were International standards in end of runway applied in the runway design? Certainly there were hydraulic problems with no gear down and flaps not deployed resulting in a high speed approach and landing that need to be investigated to establish cause of those factors. At touchdown, everyone on board were alive until the aircraft hit the structure in the over-run area that if designed to standards - are designed to allow for over-runs should they occur in aircraft landing long or unable to apply reverse thrusters.and braking capability.
It has been confirmed it was indeed a bird strike there is footage showing the strike but the tragedy was a classic unstable approach less than 3 minutes elapse between declaring emergency and the failed landing not nearly enough time to go over checklist? unless there was some catastrophic loss of total control its looking more and more like PIlot error!!! 😒
🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ It was the opposite end of the runway. The plane had to do a 180 for the 2nd emergency attempt.
"expert" - only able to tell us there are a "lot of questions" LOL hope this moronic media outlet didn't pay him too much.
def moronic and annoying..
He did not want to jump to the conclusion without any solid proof. He shared his thoughts based on the available limited information - I don't think we should expect an expert to make subjective opinions without access to the black box and the voice recording.
@@tiffanne1622 I agree...."experts" should keep their traps shut till they know hat they're talking about.
Is this a 12yr olds channel?
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