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I like your take on "forcing practicality" into these bikes. They would work very well as a trainer or first motorcycle. But I think they are also practical beyond that, because they are so economical to own, especially if you choose to do your own maintenance.
7:34 Horn placement is deliberate because Chinese people are known to abuse horn. If you’ve lived in any city in China, the noise pollution from small scooters and bikes constantly abusing their horns is going to drive you insane.
I recently purchased the 2024 125cc popio ss. I love the classic look. I live in an area that has a lot of hills. If I keep it at about 6000 rpm, 5th and 6th gears handle them fine.
Not sure this a bike for me at 6' 1" tall but your review is nicely done...I have a new interest in CFMoto due to the upcoming release of the 450MT. I am hoping you will be able to review that machine as it is definitely something I am interested in. Not due to make North America until late fall it seems but dealers here are taking preorders now..
You're only 3 inches taller so its likely you may have the same issues as me with legroom depending on your in-seam, but upper body wise I doubt its a problem. The distributor here in Singapore hasn't made any mention of when the 450MT will actually land physically here, but I doubt it would be any earlier than the Philippines at the very least. My guy at the distributor had made an off hand comment about how it might be ready for a press launch event in May this year, so I'll keep my ears peeled and give him a call to see if I can arrange a review session.
I'll be honest, the rear rack chosen to be placed on this bike isn't big, so if you want a standard sized bag like the Komine SA042, it will probably eat into the pillion seat a bit. Otherwise a small little Oxford OL528 will fit nicely on the rack, or you can strap it onto the pillion portion of the seat itself if you choose not to have one, and still have it look good. Darn small though, could probably only fit your documents like passport, insurance, small toolkit and a bottle of water.
Since this was a review bike provided by CFMoto Singapore, I am not particularly sure where they sourced it from. But as far as I know, it definitely looks a lot like the generic racks you find on AliExpress.
How does this compare to the honda monkey? Ground clearance looks like an issue, the honda monkey is 175mm and this papio trail is 165mm? Is it adjustable can you raise it?
I looked at the Monkey's spec sheet and it does say 175mm of ground clearance. But considering my neighbour has one I was skeptical of the figure since it looked lower to the ground. Then I measured the ground clearance from the Monkey's crankcase to the ground, yes 175mm-ish give or take. But the problem is the Monkey's stock exhaust header points down, so unless you bought an aftermarket full system to reroute it, you're not getting full 175mm of ground clearance, its more like 160mm. Anyway, for both bikes, if you wanna raise the bike, you're going to need to buy aftermarket suspensions and get it fitted by a suspension tech for you, it'll probably raise another 5mm at best.
It is disappointing that it appears to be a rusty exhaust pipe with only 300 kilometers . Is that so? An exhaust heat wrap might prevent that and take care of heat also.
It's not rust thankfully. Just mud baked onto the surface of the pipe that a pressure hose alone couldn't clean without some physical elbow greasing. I had been taking it off road a lot for this particular bike but only had 3 days with it before I had to hand it over to the next reviewer, so I didn't have the time to properly clean it for my presentation shots.
After talking for half the video about the instrument cluster instead of the bike, I found out that the bike has no average fuel consumption indicator 😂
Do any of you have opinions on CFMoto's Papio Trail? Leave your thoughts in the comments below to share with the rest of us watching this video!
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Best comprehensive review. Nails it for me. I'm getting one in Florida, USA. Thanks.
I just got one and am really enjoying it.
Looks sharp too, everyone keep asking me where to get one.
Totally fun bike and a true conversation starter!
Did your exhaust pipe corrode/rust?
I like your take on "forcing practicality" into these bikes. They would work very well as a trainer or first motorcycle. But I think they are also practical beyond that, because they are so economical to own, especially if you choose to do your own maintenance.
Yup, you're definitely right. Economical is indeed a practical reason to own one of these!
this is the best looking papio ive seen!!
I’ve been tossing around getting my gf a grom or crf300 to learn on and this papio might be the ticket
7:34 Horn placement is deliberate because Chinese people are known to abuse horn. If you’ve lived in any city in China, the noise pollution from small scooters and bikes constantly abusing their horns is going to drive you insane.
By Toutatis that makes a lot of bloody sense! Thanks for that POV.
I recently purchased the 2024 125cc popio ss. I love the classic look. I live in an area that has a lot of hills. If I keep it at about 6000 rpm, 5th and 6th gears handle them fine.
it's dependent on how much you weigh with these small machines. I'm 80kg, my partner is 50kg - that's a world of difference on such bikes.
Hi dude, where did you get the backrack and crashbar?
Not sure this a bike for me at 6' 1" tall but your review is nicely done...I have a new interest in CFMoto due to the upcoming release of the 450MT. I am hoping you will be able to review that machine as it is definitely something I am interested in. Not due to make North America until late fall it seems but dealers here are taking preorders now..
You're only 3 inches taller so its likely you may have the same issues as me with legroom depending on your in-seam, but upper body wise I doubt its a problem. The distributor here in Singapore hasn't made any mention of when the 450MT will actually land physically here, but I doubt it would be any earlier than the Philippines at the very least.
My guy at the distributor had made an off hand comment about how it might be ready for a press launch event in May this year, so I'll keep my ears peeled and give him a call to see if I can arrange a review session.
Hey mate, nice video. Can you recommend any bag to go over the back fender bar?
I'll be honest, the rear rack chosen to be placed on this bike isn't big, so if you want a standard sized bag like the Komine SA042, it will probably eat into the pillion seat a bit.
Otherwise a small little Oxford OL528 will fit nicely on the rack, or you can strap it onto the pillion portion of the seat itself if you choose not to have one, and still have it look good. Darn small though, could probably only fit your documents like passport, insurance, small toolkit and a bottle of water.
Where id you get the rear rack from? Is it the aliexpress one for XO trail? Im getting a Papio CL in the USA soon and it is called the CL here.
Since this was a review bike provided by CFMoto Singapore, I am not particularly sure where they sourced it from. But as far as I know, it definitely looks a lot like the generic racks you find on AliExpress.
I need the rear rack that you have, where can I find it?
The owners say they got it from Aliexpress. I found a couple of hits by typing "cfmoto papio xo rack" into the search bar.
Thank you for the good video.
Can this bike turn off ABS?
@@rider1921 unfortunately no, not without physically removing the fuse
@@ReizePrimus Thank you very much. 🥰👍💯
Great video..why do you ride with your feet down when you ride off road, you gotta be careful good way to get hurt...
So this is basically the "naked" version of the xo-1?
Yeap that pretty much sums it up.
How does this compare to the honda monkey?
Ground clearance looks like an issue, the honda monkey is 175mm and this papio trail is 165mm? Is it adjustable can you raise it?
I looked at the Monkey's spec sheet and it does say 175mm of ground clearance. But considering my neighbour has one I was skeptical of the figure since it looked lower to the ground.
Then I measured the ground clearance from the Monkey's crankcase to the ground, yes 175mm-ish give or take. But the problem is the Monkey's stock exhaust header points down, so unless you bought an aftermarket full system to reroute it, you're not getting full 175mm of ground clearance, its more like 160mm.
Anyway, for both bikes, if you wanna raise the bike, you're going to need to buy aftermarket suspensions and get it fitted by a suspension tech for you, it'll probably raise another 5mm at best.
It is disappointing that it appears to be a rusty exhaust pipe with only 300 kilometers . Is that so? An exhaust heat wrap might prevent that and take care of heat also.
It's not rust thankfully. Just mud baked onto the surface of the pipe that a pressure hose alone couldn't clean without some physical elbow greasing. I had been taking it off road a lot for this particular bike but only had 3 days with it before I had to hand it over to the next reviewer, so I didn't have the time to properly clean it for my presentation shots.
bro how high is the air filter
Its just right underneath the rider's seat. So the airbox entrance is probably about 720mm-ish high from the ground, assuming suspension is unloaded.
@@ReizePrimus k plan to get one and do some trail river crossing i hope it doesnt fail me bru
After talking for half the video about the instrument cluster instead of the bike, I found out that the bike has no average fuel consumption indicator 😂
Do most bikes have one though?
@@marlonreyes2376 yes I would say the majority of new bikes do. Even the Honda cb125f which is much cheaper
I just checked and these are the equivalent of 3780 Singapore dollars ride away all taxes paid in Australia 😅
I wannnnnttttt!
I can tell you do my man!
Niceee
Thanks man, hope you also mean the bike is nice :)