Boxing in with Buttonfix & battens
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Hi everybody. In this video I take a look at a couple of small jobs from last year, when I used a knock-down panel fixing to make removable cabinets. Enjoy!
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Your carpentry work is absolutely spot on kind regards to you Mark from Billericay 😃👍
Wow, thanks Mark! 👍
Great vid illustrating just how useful these type of fixings can be, food for thought around the house for similar jobs to those shown. Thanks.
Always handy to have 👍
Never seen those before, brilliant little things. Thank you.
They’re really neat, and once you have them you find all kinds of uses for them. 👍👍
Neat. I've seen the fixings online but never felt brave enough to use them. They worked out great. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Give them a try, really easy to use and a secure fit 👍
Hi Peter,
After your last Button Fix video, I decided to buy some to fix a back panel on a breakfast bar. Great result, always good to pick other people's brains.
Thanks for that.
Cheers Gerry - it’s a good system with lots of uses, not always the ones intended by the manufacturer 👍😆
Nice way for easy access and tidying the place up. Thank you again.
Pleasure 👍👍
Great 'system' for an otherwise dicey installation... I've used neodymium magnets for similar things but your buttonfix hardware is much more positive... thanks for the vid!
Thanks Matt, they work really well. 👍
Makes it look so easy lol. Will be buying the button fix system for my kitchen panelling and boiler boxing in.
Great solution! Much better than the magnets I've used in the past. Thanks for sharing.
Sure is 👍
Peter, thanks for your great videos, particularly using our Type 2 Button-fix! (By the way, we didn't beg/bribe Peter to use Button-fix; he undertook these videos entirely off his own bat..)
Anyway, I thought I would give you the heads up on the new improved Type 2 Button we have introduced: It is designed specifically for the Type 2, and it gives a far greater lead-in than the original green button, so it has a much greater tolerance, and replacing panels is much easier. And it's blue! A new improved marker tool is also available, though I know you manage happily without.
Phil
Coincidentally used a few of the new ones today - funny how RUclips knows what you’ve been buying, hence this video coming up 🤨. But they are an outstanding little doodad. The marker is entirely fool proof. Thank you!
I must say a big THANK YOU, Peter, because I’ve been doing a lot of boxing in recently and without watching your videos I wouldn’t have known about the ButtonFix or the better material that Moisture MDF is.
It’s (as you know 😀) so much nicer to use than normal MDF
Thanks again 👏🙏
Cheers Graham! 👍👍
Graham DIY hi
That's a neat little gadget. I need to have a look into this. Thank you Peter.
Great system, well worth a look 👍
Great Video Peter , as always a great Explanation of what your doing and how things work , Your a in a Class of your Own , thanks for sharing
Thanks Rob 👍
Genuis trick! Just what I was looking for. Thanks Peter.
Thanks Richard! 👍👍
Revisited this one as I have a small job for my son to do and looks like I can emulate what you’ve done. Thanks
Another top tip from a top pro !!! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
My pleasure - thanks for watching!
Great product and another great video. Thanks.
I have a very similar job to do in the next couple of months and was reviewing my options. This looks like it would work a treat.
Thanks for another great video Peter.
Cheers Jon! Hope it goes well 👍
I have used these as well for hanging wooden plaques that i've made looks better than screws threw it.
They do a great job 👍
Never seen this gadgets here. Have tp open my eyes. Thanks for this demonstration.
Cheerio from Germany.
Thanks Alfred! If you follow the link in the video description it take me you to a ‘where to buy’ page on the Buttonfix website 👍
I have found it in Amazon german, 12 pieces for abt 13€. Thanks!
Beautifully, (and expediciously), done!
Thank you! 👍
A very nice solution!
Another handy little tip. Thanks Peter!!
Cheers Kevin 👍
Happy 20223 and congratulations on reaching 200K subscribers.
Thank you! 👍
love the way we still say hoover up. Great branding
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Very interested in this buttonfixs for boxing in some pipes at a relation's, but then thought surely those little sprung roller catches that you used to get on cupboard doors would do a similar job. Not as fancy, but cheap but you can't see it anyway. The baton idea though is excellent and applicable to others fixings too.
Another one for the armoury 👍👍👍 Thanks for sharing 😎
Yep, always worth having a bag of these around 👍
Neato little gadgets, I've never heard of them before. Handy to have them laying around the bits and bobs draw for when you do need them.
Very handy; as I say, I don't use them all that much, but great to have them available 👍
Simply brilliant. Thanks
These are great, I’ve been using these since your first buttonfix video. Just the other day I used them for a fitted radiator cover in an alcove for access.
I also used the same batten solution in our wonky Victorian house!
Good to hear they work out for you! 👍👍
Great idea with small battens. I will definitely use that tip in my drawings. With a small alteration to allow for keku clips. Thanks Peter.
Thanks Daniel. Try Buttonfix if you can - I’ve found them to be nicer to use than Keku 👍👍
I know, keku needs to much force to unclip and more precise alignment. The main reason I use keku's clips is that there are CAD blocks available on Hafele webpage. But I just checked the Button-Fix site and they also have CAD drawings. That makes me a Button-Fix user from now :)
Ah, OK - didn’t realise that, good find 👍👍
Really great solution Peter.
Thanks Jim! 👍
Thanks for sharing, they will go into the Arsenal
Thanks! Always worth having a bag of them in the toolbox 👍
Something I knew nothing about. Thanks Peter.
Pleasure! 👍
French cleats work well in tight spaces , another nice video mate ,thanks for posting, from Garry in Barnsley
great solution gave me a great idea
Thanks! 👍
Great stuff Peter, think I’m sold for my boiler boxing in. 👍🏻
Works really well 👍
Great little fixings.
Sure are 👍
Nice job. Looks really good
It was close! 😂
Just about to make a box in for a concealed cistern for a back to wall toilet and have decided on these. Can usually count on a 10MW video for info! Luckily the company now even provide a marking tool to make life easier and I need all the help I can get.
Nice bit of lateral thinking Peter👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Alan 👍
Very clever solution to a common problem.
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For Robert Hoyle: yes you can buy them in America via Hafele, Eco Supply and Lee Valley. Great video Peter, thanks.
Cheers Tony - thanks for a great system 👍
Another great video, thanks for sharing Peter
Thanks Simon 👍
Great job Peter .
Cheers Julian👍
Must gets some buttons. I have plenty of boxing that I've been avoiding for years.
Another great video Peter, funnily enough I watched your last button fixing video last night after having RUclips suggest it to me.
Thanks! 👍
First time I see those. Probably a more secure fix than the magnets I would have used...
Yep, they’re very solid 👍
I like this video some very useful techniques that I need to remember.
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Damn now I’ve gone and bought some! 😄 Cheers Peter, looks perfect for a few jobs I have coming up around the house. Great channel btw, and enjoying the podcast!
Thanks, and thanks! Yep, they’re rally handy to have around - don’t use them every day, but sometimes they’re just what you need 👍
thx Peter. I greatly appreciate it.
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Did I see you using some actual wood then? 😂 nice tip and very handy fixing, thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Only a tiny bit of actual wood, lol! 😂👍
Great video, a nice option for as you say stuff that needs occasional access. You mention MDF is great for boxing as it has no end grain, but the edges of it do seem to drink up paint and can look different- would be great to see a video of your tips for painting and blending faces and edges of MDF!
Thanks! I did a six-part series on painting & finishing way back when, nothing much to add; part one here - ruclips.net/video/dgTN2QPgoD8/видео.html 👍
Peter Millard should have looked, managed to miss this series! Great tips here too!
Thanks Chris!👍
Thanks for the info, very useful item
They are, very. Well worth having a few in the toolbox 👍
great product
Great vid peter, they look a little less of a pain than the black keku fixings we use at work. I’m guessing they look a tad more expensive though. Keku’s always snap with heavy handling especially on the toilet cistern covers
Thanks Lee. Yep, I’ve had a few keku fittings snap as well. Buttonfix are about the same price or slightly cheaper, depending on where you buy, and the quantities. Well worth grabbing a small pack to try out 👍
Hi Peter, do you think these fixings would be suitable for holding drawers closed in a camper conversion while the vehicle is on the move. Do you think they would be strong enough to take the weight, I suppose I could always put two on heavier drawers! Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming, cheers Mark.
Hi Mark. Yes, they should be fine - they’re really strong. 👍👍
Perfect for radiator covers
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Purchased the bath panel set contains buttons and fixings, might use them to repair kitchen kicker boards...
Great kit, all kinds of uses 👍👍
Neat idea - nicely executed and both eyesores nicely buttoned up - whats not to like?😉
As always great video
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Very nice!!
Thanks! 👍
Hi Peter, you may want to update the Amazon Link.
Nice boxing in, it always makes things look neater, but.. when you put the rawlplugs in the wall they should always be knocked in passed the plaster into the brick, locate the screw into the plug then tap it so the plug travels past the plaster & is fully into the brick before screwing in, there is no strength in the plaster, most shelves that fall down are because people don't do this.
👍 But... there’s f-all brick in there! Seriously, there’s a big cavity before I get to the outside wall so I used cavity fixings (duoplug) that did the job nicely. Still need four in the left hand side though! Plus, it’s not a shelf. 👍👍
Ok, ya gotta be there i suppose, sometimes you have no choice but to fix to the board, i thought i saw red brick in the hole behind the meter, & the bigger unit in front of the pipes looks like it's going onto a old decent sized wall, you can tell the thickness of a wall by the width of the door lining,
Doesn't matter whether it's a shelf or not tho, my statement stands for fixing to a brick wall whatever it is 👍
Nifty solution Peter.
Cheers Jim 👍
Might be tricky to remove after the skirting/baseboard has been fitted. Fiddly at least.
Depends how the skirting is fitted; if it’s scribed in properly, then no, not fiddly at all. 👍
Great video. Thanks for sharing. That's really thinking out of the box. Very original. I've never seen nor heard of this system before. I followed the link: only 1 piece (set of 12) left at this moment.
I hope it is an affiliate link for you. They are quite expensive, though. And they do not ship to Slovakia. As an alternative I'd use small magnets (need not to be rare earth)
Thanks Hans. If you follow the second link in the description it takes you to the ButtonFix ‘where to buy’ page, might be worth taking a look 👍
Thanks for the tip. Just took a look there. Better prices. I should contact my former neighbours. They have family in England which come a few times a year
back to visit Slovakia.
Thats a good tip building the whole thing off site, the last one is good in theory, but it looks like a skirting needs to be fixed up to your cabinet!! how will it come off.....
Clients didn’t ask for skirting, but if they did it could be fixed to the carcass, and scribed at either end. It comes off very easily, once you know how - and I’ve shown the clients how, and seen them do it.; short end first, long end second 👍
brillant video
Thank you! 👍
Do you have to meet any regulations around the dno equipment being covered as my understanding is the main fuse may be pulled in an emergency by fire brigade?
As long as there’s access to it eg in an emergency, then no, it’s no issue covering it.
Nifty gizmo's!
They are! 👍
Good work, like ever!
The expression: "Festooling the dust up" has some way before it enters common use!
Yep 😆👍
Well that looked like fun Peter ,your gonna have to share a link off of amazon for the button fix on your page,forgot to mention ,you looked much younger in that video,...: P
Thanks Syd. Yeah, nowhere near as grey in that one, lol 😂👍
Hi Peter, I'm a new subscriber to your channel. I loved watching this video and it can help me box in some pipes. Quick question, what material did use to produce the template?
Hi Brad - thanks, and welcome! The template was made from a thin corrugated plastic material called Correx - that’s a brand-name that’s become the generic term for it. You can buy it from builders merchants, timber yards, decorators merchants etc.. etc.. and usually comes in 2mm or 4mm thick, either black or translucent. Costs around £3.50 - £4 / sheet for an 8x4, purchased singly i.e. not a pack of 50! Great stuff, has all kinds of uses in addition to the intended one of general protection. HTH, Peter
Cheers Peter. Thank you for your prompt and detailed response. You are great to watch go about your craft. I am learning a lot. This is an awesome channel and happy to support you!
Thanks Brad - my pleasure 👍👍
How does the box for the manifold come off once the skirt is fitted?
Depends how the skirting is fitted; if it's scribed in properly and attached to the box as planned, then I'm not sure what the issue is?
Excellent work but I could see it being a little more tricky if the panels needed to be scribed into an uneven wall.
Yes indeed - one of the things to check beforehand 👍
Peter Its only just occurred to me that you had previously made a template , hope you dont think I was being critical 🤐
Not at all - perfectly reasonable comment 👍👍
Peter, I really enjoyed this remedy and install. I'll look below and see if I can find those buttons. If not can you send me the link?
Thanks Steve. There are two links in the video description, first one does to amazon UK to purchase, second one to the Buttonfix ‘where to buy’ page.
They're also available from Lee Valley, if you're ordering anything else from them, tack them on to the order. I've used this in several projects and their snug, clip in hard, and stay clipped-in. Well made, solid, easy to use.
jaydub 👍👍
Hi Peter - curious as to why you made the entire cabinet removable? Would it not be better to secure the frame to the wall and use the buttonfix connectors to attach the front panel to the frame so it can be removed for access?
Some people perhaps don't like working inside cabinets? Take the entire thing off and there's much better access!
Hi Peter, is your published affiliate link for buying these on Amazon broken? When I click on it, I get an error from Amazon. All the best, Tim.
Thanks Tim! Yeah, somethings not right with this - thanks so much for letting me know. This link should work; amzn.to/2AoXM8P 👍👍
Great thanks Peter, that works now. Cheers.
hi peter.just a diffrent subject where did get them small head screws in ur other video tongthight i think .you screwed the cabinet to floor base.taaa
Hi Perry. Yes, Tongue-Tite or Lost-Tite are the ones I use. I don’t have a link to hand but there should be one in the video description under ‘used/featured in this video’. Otherwise check the companion website 10minuteworkshop.com where there’s a whole ‘stuff I use’ section with links to everything 👍👍
Very pro!
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The buttonfix is a good product, very flexible. As a cabinetmaker, I have found that for high-end applications, they are a bit inaccurate. In Australia, we have this locally made product, the Joinlox 'StripLox' [www.joinlox.com/products-solutions] which I'm not getting any money to advertise, is a helluva tite joint. The strength of these little buggers is unbelievable. And because they are so squat and guided, they repeat into exactly the same tight, factory join on site, as you made in the factory, and the customer can yank at it as hard as they can, they just won't budge them :-) great for flush panelling, so smick :-)
Hi and thanks - always great to see what other guys are using! It's a dead link, I'm afraid - I'm sure they're great, but I can buy buttonfix where I live 👍👍
Why not make just the front cover removable? Great channel 👍
Thanks! Yep, you could make the front cover removable but then you still have the problem of how to do that, and if it requires screwed fixings of any kind then the front cover has to be thick enough to take the screws = heavy(er). Then you still need to fix the carcass to the wall somehow. Plus, if work ever needs to be done to the incomer, that carcass has to get out of the way, so it'll come off the wall anyway. So simplest solution is to make the whole carcass removable, leaving just the battens behind. 👍
Peter Millard I stand corrected! Btw. It’s Friday evening you should be getting pissed? Not answering RUclips comments?? 😂😂👍
I like the concept, or solution as it were, but,
considering of what is being covered up, I sense there should be a warning sign placed on the outside of box on how to gain access to the internals. The next end user &/or owner my have no idea of a buttonfix system.
Of the examples provided, the end result looks as though they are permanent built-in fixtures, not to be easily accessed.
A sign/diagram "To gain entry...." , 'Main Junction Box' , 'Heat Manifold'
That’s up to the homeowner; I’ve explained it to them, had them access both, so I know they understand. This home is a long-term renovation project that’s been going on for a few years as it is - there won’t be a new owner any time soon. 👍
I've not seen the buttonfix system before, do you know if it is sold in the US?
I don’t know I’m sorry - if you follow the link in the video description it takes you to the ‘where to buy’ page 👍
Just come across this and see it's basically the same as a kuku clip
No, Keku clips are a similar function, but a different animal really. Different materials, for one. And the button in Buttonfix is standard across all fixings, plus the fixings can articulate. If all you’ve ever used is Keku, pick up a couple of packs of these and try them 👍👍
That wasn't 10 minutes!
No it wasn't. At 9:58 it was two seconds short. Not good enough Peter, go and stand in the corner! :-)