Not much of the (first) ride, as the title suggested. Except a few video fragmets taken on the motorcycle, which were appearing in a form of flashbacks, and without the sound, presenter was just giving a lot of detailed info that can be found on the manufacturer's website. It was too generic for my taste, I felt like someone was reading a brochure to me. I wish there was more real, objective, riding experience "transferred" to viewers, with video, along with a big smile caused by the throttle response.
I'm right there with ya. What makes it worse at least for me is my company is/was afraid of loosing people so they gave everyone a $3 raise and then still had people job hopping for more money so they gave everyone another 7% raise like 8 months later hoping to keep people. Got all excited to buy some cool stuff finally and then manufacturers moved the bar out of my reach again.
Dont get drawn into the ducati trap. The previous model is better. Just cause its v4 doesn't make it better. After all it runs on 2 cylinders most of the time anyway. Ducati get in your head making you think you need something you dont
I must’ve watched hours and hours of motorcycle reviews on RUclips but this is the most objective, well presented review I’ve ever watched. King regards from Barcelona!
I'm trading in my red 1260s for this and it should be arriving later this month. I love the 1260s but there are quite a few reasons for the change. I wanted the bike to stay relevant, the service intervals and removal of the desmodromic valves makes sense, the turn-by-turn nav, the bigger display, the styling is slightly better, especially the fact that there's now no "ugly" left-hand side, the cleaner rear seat with the folding pillion pegs brought back and I'm in love with the rear seat cowling.
Despite my obvious Rocket bias, it's a smart bike Rob. I would say comparing to the XDiavel before was not going to give you the best comparison. Encourage you to try the last 1260S Diavel. I think Ducati are distracting us with peak power as the new V4 is down on torque to the LTwin which felt very lively. Shaving weight has helped keep the perf figures broadly the same. Have to say it sounds more Dyson than Diavel. Who knows I may end up with one but found a) I don't need all that power and b) I'd rather have a naked for chopping up twisties. Will be interesting to see if it's comfortable on longer trips because the last gens were simply not, especially for bigger riders.
I have a 21 triumph rocket 3. and love it. thinking of adding this to my stable ! looks sounds and has all the makings of a great bike for big guy like me . 😁😁
This isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but I appreciate the design of this new generation. It’s fresh, it’s streamlined, it feels lighter, more modern. I’d happily own this bike.
Bob, I just saw my good buddy 650iB's video and you and him must have been on the same group tour ride in Dubai !!! I lived there for about 70 days when I was traveling and living in 13 different countries about 10 years ago and it's an amazing place to be and experience....
You're a professional, sir 👀 well detailed and only 8 minutes, that's win win. Ty for your time, good/expensive ride 👌 oh and BTW, just subscribed. Sincerely
If i had no bike I’d shortlist an upright style Ducati V4, but for now I’ll stick with my old 996 with its paltry 127hp (but bags of torque for my urban needs)..
Good review. Still on the fence. Will have to wait til I see and hear one when they land here in Australia. Wish they had a cheaper exhaust upgrade like they did for the 1260. $9K plus install here in Australia.
@@jupiter22177 Now $10K + here now plus install. Sounds Bloody Good Though, way better than the stock on the this bike. Hopefully there will be other alternatives soon.
@@desmodougie10024 yeah dealer told me cheaper / termi exhaust is WIP, which i understand isn't available just yet... will still probably be a few grand; i'd be happy with just the tip / baffles out for some more tone, doesn't really need that much i.e. the racing would be excessive on a long ride.
If i had no bike I’d shortlist an upright style Ducati V4, but for now I’ll stick with my old 996 with its paltry 127hp (but bags of torque for my urban needs)..
Always loved the tail lights on the Diavel. I bought a super Duke evo over the Aprilia and Streetfighter cuz of the headlight. I love different vs me too! Tempted to buy this bike
Well, I’ve come into some Money Not a kings ransom, but enough to get this. However, I’m a complete beginner, and was wondering if you would recommend this? You obviously know a great deal about Ducatis so would really value your advice!
Excellent point about limited riding on closed roads they missed the bad vibrations on bmw X-R as no motorway riding. Looks awesome shame Ducati are making the exhaust price stratospheric . You didn’t speak about panniers fittings on rear ? Any bike over 20k also means all insurance companies refer back to insurers and in lon may mean no cover within reasonable price
Not really understanding why the performance is any better than the 1260 Diavel (or X Diavel) twin which makes about the same HP and a bit more torque?
Once i pay my mercedes off, Im buying myself one. The diavel has always been my dream bike. Stepped into the ducati family with a Hypermotard, Absolutely love my hyper
For the record I rode a Honda VFR 800 Vtec years ago , which only shut off 2 valves ,not 2 pistons , it felt like it was knackered , it was like it had a misfire and just cleared up a 5000 rpm , it scared me for life , something I never got over , and it probably killed off the vfr , also I hadn’t noticed my Ducati 1260 didn’t have a trellis frame the same as my Ducati gen 1 , I probably thought I’d bought an xdiavel and hadn’t noticed or the bike shop swapped bikes when it was in for a service , I’ll have to take more notice next time , I buy a bike 🏍🏍👍👍
Sir, are the Ducati scramblers 2023 test ride available already? Waitin for your test ride reviews on those bikes especially the 2023 full throttle and nightshift☺️
😄😄😄 I have seen heating systems smaller than the exhaust system. I'm not up on the long-term effects on the engine of those cylinder deactivation systems. Would it have a tendency to carbon up the rear cyclinders over time . I also wonder about how much spray the rider would get when riding in the rain with that clean rear end? I'd like to hear more when longer rides are done in regular road riding conditions.
I reckon it’s a stunning machine but it now crossed the border between an expensive bike, even very expensive, and a crazy priced bike that falls in the same category of the likes of MV, not even thinking about an S version with electronic suspensions and the rest. I did my best with a Superduke Evo, now that I tasted the exclusivity I’ll probably step back once I’ll feel a need to change. It’s nice to see that this escalation of prices doesn’t appeal to me anymore ✌️
Yes! I would be very interested to know more about this bike? I travel the Ozark back road with lots of curves and bens in the roads so I want something that I can use on these snake road and be able to lean into the curves with ease and be comfortable while touring the many miles of back country roads!! Will this bike do that and some???
I believe it was Bike world with acceleration trials Diavel and Triumph Rocket 3. Diavel is a super fast bike in disguise. A cvo Harley is underpowered in comparison even with the stage 4 mods, $$$$.
More automobile emissions tech filtering down to motorcycles. VVT, some bikes with forced induction, hybrid versions arriving and full electric motorcycles. Cylinder deactivation, all cylinders on car, traffic lights and drive-through‘s. I believe just rear cylinder deactivation more for emissions/mileage as liquid cooled bikes still have hot liquid cooling. I can see rear cylinder deactivation maybe in air cooled bikes.
A V4 you do not need to decide do I want torque OR horsepower. V4’s give both. Plus lighter bike means less torque needed V4’s similar to triples with midrange torque and high horsepower rpm
Some beautiful machines In the Triumph range, lovely colours , this red metallic is lovely , I would prefer to have the Bluetooth connection and cruise control should not be an option many manufacturers fit it as standard, Tank size is OK, for Sunday rides ,but too small for the longer trips, Still a stunning bike, ✨️
Truthfully it seems over night all the top Halo bikes have jumped across the $20,000 mark. Harley’s still need a stage 2-4 to be competitive with less safety stuff standard like stability control and IMu
I a big diavel fan owning a gen 1 and a gen 3 , I don’t like the sound of the cylinder 2-4 thing , sound like that could be a pain , since they put a v4 in ,it would be nice to actually use 4 cylinders , but this could be too much tech , and actually get on your nerves , not convinced on the , you don’t notice it or you’d never know !! Just saying !! I’ll test ride one first , 🏍🏍👍👍
XDiavel replacement hmm...US is 26,695 for V4, that's a spicy meatball. Not a fan of the stock exhaust design, but I see why they did it. I think the XDiavel was a better looking bike and the 1160 sings a better tune to my ears. Diavel 1260 for 21,795 is the one I would go for (if I were going to buy one, which I'm not :) )
Also the suspension on Diavel always shakes your fillings. Why the fuck don’t they use Ohlins as standard especially for the price tag. It’s the first thing to swap out.
Hats off to you Rob for not producing the same video as everyone else - great work as ever....
Thanks mate - really appreciate it 🙏👍
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Not much of the (first) ride, as the title suggested. Except a few video fragmets taken on the motorcycle, which were appearing in a form of flashbacks, and without the sound, presenter was just giving a lot of detailed info that can be found on the manufacturer's website. It was too generic for my taste, I felt like someone was reading a brochure to me.
I wish there was more real, objective, riding experience "transferred" to viewers, with video, along with a big smile caused by the throttle response.
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Agreed - Tim Rodie's test was much more indicative of the experience.
It feels like the price of my favorite things are getting further and further away from me.
I'm right there with ya. What makes it worse at least for me is my company is/was afraid of loosing people so they gave everyone a $3 raise and then still had people job hopping for more money so they gave everyone another 7% raise like 8 months later hoping to keep people. Got all excited to buy some cool stuff finally and then manufacturers moved the bar out of my reach again.
Dont get drawn into the ducati trap. The previous model is better. Just cause its v4 doesn't make it better. After all it runs on 2 cylinders most of the time anyway. Ducati get in your head making you think you need something you dont
They are. That’s the way everything is going these days.
So true
Thank a Democrat
I must’ve watched hours and hours of motorcycle reviews on RUclips but this is the most objective, well presented review I’ve ever watched. King regards from Barcelona!
This is the most beautiful man-made creation in the world!
Ducati never fail to stun me with their bikes, all is so good looking
PERFECT! That's what I think of it and your breakdown was the BEST on YT that I've seen, Well Done. Cheers from Jamaica.
I like it so much that I put down a deposit last month. Can’t wait till April when she arrives!
Gonna be the best Diavel so far. TFT display is Eons better then the predecessor. My next bike
I think that hands down this is a better looking bike than the previous trellis version
I'm trading in my red 1260s for this and it should be arriving later this month. I love the 1260s but there are quite a few reasons for the change. I wanted the bike to stay relevant, the service intervals and removal of the desmodromic valves makes sense, the turn-by-turn nav, the bigger display, the styling is slightly better, especially the fact that there's now no "ugly" left-hand side, the cleaner rear seat with the folding pillion pegs brought back and I'm in love with the rear seat cowling.
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So - how does the v4 compare to the 1260 now that you've ridden both?
Despite my obvious Rocket bias, it's a smart bike Rob. I would say comparing to the XDiavel before was not going to give you the best comparison. Encourage you to try the last 1260S Diavel. I think Ducati are distracting us with peak power as the new V4 is down on torque to the LTwin which felt very lively. Shaving weight has helped keep the perf figures broadly the same. Have to say it sounds more Dyson than Diavel. Who knows I may end up with one but found a) I don't need all that power and b) I'd rather have a naked for chopping up twisties. Will be interesting to see if it's comfortable on longer trips because the last gens were simply not, especially for bigger riders.
This will be my next bike, but in all black. Love the review, great job.
Loved that. Such a lovely bike. U sold it right there. What a great video. So informative. And that road was well worth going there
I have a 21 triumph rocket 3. and love it. thinking of adding this to my stable ! looks sounds and has all the makings of a great bike for big guy like me . 😁😁
This isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but I appreciate the design of this new generation. It’s fresh, it’s streamlined, it feels lighter, more modern. I’d happily own this bike.
i love the look of the bike it's so unique specially the rear wheel
Bob, I just saw my good buddy 650iB's video and you and him must have been on the same group tour ride in Dubai !!! I lived there for about 70 days when I was traveling and living in 13 different countries about 10 years ago and it's an amazing place to be and experience....
I love the Diavel...really want one to sit alongside my multistrada. the new one looks even better.
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Looks incredible and I bet it sounds amazing
Love the four pipe statement of my 4 cylinder similar to MV 800rr dragster with the 3 pipe saying I am a triple!
Ducati have really knocked it out of the park with this one !! Beautiful looking bike , but I checked the Aussie price $41,100 ouch
Dont be sorry. here in Denmark its almost 100,000 Aussie $ 😞One can only dream of buying one...
26k msrp in usa
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Why that much?
You're a professional, sir 👀 well detailed and only 8 minutes, that's win win. Ty for your time, good/expensive ride 👌 oh and BTW, just subscribed. Sincerely
I like the shield over the pipes
Looks wise my favourite was the first Gen carbon, that dark look - had the real rawness of a big Monster 8)
Will stick with the 1260S for now, more torque lower down for real world roads 🙂👍🏍
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Agreed. This was not a great decision by Ducati.
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If i had no bike I’d shortlist an upright style Ducati V4, but for now I’ll stick with my old 996 with its paltry 127hp (but bags of torque for my urban needs)..
I love the 1260s. The yellow and grey is godly
Good review. Still on the fence. Will have to wait til I see and hear one when they land here in Australia. Wish they had a cheaper exhaust upgrade like they did for the 1260. $9K plus install here in Australia.
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9k for an exhaust is beyond fucking absurd
@@jupiter22177 Now $10K + here now plus install. Sounds Bloody Good Though, way better than the stock on the this bike. Hopefully there will be other alternatives soon.
@@desmodougie10024 yeah dealer told me cheaper / termi exhaust is WIP, which i understand isn't available just yet... will still probably be a few grand; i'd be happy with just the tip / baffles out for some more tone, doesn't really need that much i.e. the racing would be excessive on a long ride.
If i had no bike I’d shortlist an upright style Ducati V4, but for now I’ll stick with my old 996 with its paltry 127hp (but bags of torque for my urban needs)..
Good Review, solid as usual and what a fantastic looking machine!
Always loved the tail lights on the Diavel. I bought a super Duke evo over the Aprilia and Streetfighter cuz of the headlight. I love different vs me too! Tempted to buy this bike
Great review ! Thank you so much !
I’m floating the idea of a Ducati and for those that have owned. What’s the reliability, and are there any common repairs ?
The more I look at it the more I like it!
Well, I’ve come into some Money Not a kings ransom, but enough to get this. However, I’m a complete beginner, and was wondering if you would recommend this? You obviously know a great deal about Ducatis so would really value your advice!
Excellent point about limited riding on closed roads they missed the bad vibrations on bmw X-R as no motorway riding. Looks awesome shame Ducati are making the exhaust price stratospheric . You didn’t speak about panniers fittings on rear ? Any bike over 20k also means all insurance companies refer back to insurers and in lon may mean no cover within reasonable price
Looks like you are comparing it with the XDiavel wich is a different model not the previous version
Not really understanding why the performance is any better than the 1260 Diavel (or X Diavel) twin which makes about the same HP and a bit more torque?
I admire the Italian design. Very beautiful bike
Should I buy this? 🤔 I’m open to some recommendations
Wait so if we choose the sport exhaust is the sound more louder!?
Once i pay my mercedes off, Im buying myself one. The diavel has always been my dream bike. Stepped into the ducati family with a Hypermotard, Absolutely love my hyper
Well presented review. love from, India. ❤🔥
The Ducati Diavel V4 looks real nice but the sound from that exhaust doesn't match the look of the bike.
For the record I rode a Honda VFR 800 Vtec years ago , which only shut off 2 valves ,not 2 pistons , it felt like it was knackered , it was like it had a misfire and just cleared up a 5000 rpm , it scared me for life , something I never got over , and it probably killed off the vfr , also I hadn’t noticed my Ducati 1260 didn’t have a trellis frame the same as my Ducati gen 1 , I probably thought I’d bought an xdiavel and hadn’t noticed or the bike shop swapped bikes when it was in for a service , I’ll have to take more notice next time , I buy a bike 🏍🏍👍👍
I Love the look of this v4👍
Beautiful Presentation 👌💯... i like how he talks 😁dope🤘
Sir, are the Ducati scramblers 2023 test ride available already? Waitin for your test ride reviews on those bikes especially the 2023 full throttle and nightshift☺️
Why do you compare the new diavel with the xdiavel? They are totally two different styles of bike.
Nice Video Man.
Still on the fence about this bike. It doesent sound great Stock. But I think I would need to ride it to appreciate it.
best reviewer, the video is about the bike. the other youtubers keep pointing the cameras on their faces
😄😄😄 I have seen heating systems smaller than the exhaust system. I'm not up on the long-term effects on the engine of those cylinder deactivation systems. Would it have a tendency to carbon up the rear cyclinders over time .
I also wonder about how much spray the rider would get when riding in the rain with that clean rear end? I'd like to hear more when longer rides are done in regular road riding conditions.
It reminds me of a Yamaha I once saw. V something?
I reckon it’s a stunning machine but it now crossed the border between an expensive bike, even very expensive, and a crazy priced bike that falls in the same category of the likes of MV, not even thinking about an S version with electronic suspensions and the rest. I did my best with a Superduke Evo, now that I tasted the exclusivity I’ll probably step back once I’ll feel a need to change. It’s nice to see that this escalation of prices doesn’t appeal to me anymore ✌️
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Yes! I would be very interested to know more about this bike? I travel the Ozark back road with lots of curves and bens in the roads so I want something that I can use on these snake road and be able to lean into the curves with ease and be comfortable while touring the many miles of back country roads!! Will this bike do that and some???
If all ten were just “quad exit exhaust” I still would’ve dropped a like 😂
Whanever i look at this bike my hear start beating 😍 so attractive bike♥️
Mat black contrast beautiful.
New Dreambike !
My dream bike. what a machine
Mercure Grand - Jebel Hafeet Never looked so red 🙂. Excellent place for a ride.
Bro i really liked ur jogger pants. Can u really post the link of your joggers ?? I wanna buy it for street riding
How does it compare to the yamaha vmax 1700.
Looks better than previous model
I believe it was Bike world with acceleration trials Diavel and Triumph Rocket 3. Diavel is a super fast bike in disguise. A cvo Harley is underpowered in comparison even with the stage 4 mods, $$$$.
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KING of THE ROAD. 💫👌👍
How is the heat management??
More automobile emissions tech filtering down to motorcycles. VVT, some bikes with forced induction, hybrid versions arriving and full electric motorcycles. Cylinder deactivation, all cylinders on car, traffic lights and drive-through‘s. I believe just rear cylinder deactivation more for emissions/mileage as liquid cooled bikes still have hot liquid cooling. I can see rear cylinder deactivation maybe in air cooled bikes.
Bob, Does it hesitate to turn in like the 1260 does?
I find the 1260 turns very easily, perhaps your suspension tuning is off.
LOVE IT!!!!
A V4 you do not need to decide do I want torque OR horsepower. V4’s give both. Plus lighter bike means less torque needed V4’s similar to triples with midrange torque and high horsepower rpm
Rob, you are comparing a Diavel with an X Diavel. Very different styling and ergonomics.
I would love the trellis frame.. I would rather shave 13kg on my body weight.. LOL
I like that stacked exhaust pipes. The sound not so much coming from the mic...
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My New dream Bike.
Some beautiful machines In the Triumph range, lovely colours , this red metallic is lovely ,
I would prefer to have the Bluetooth connection and cruise control should not be an option many manufacturers fit it as standard,
Tank size is OK, for Sunday rides ,but too small for the longer trips,
Still a stunning bike, ✨️
Truthfully it seems over night all the top Halo bikes have jumped across the $20,000 mark. Harley’s still need a stage 2-4 to be competitive with less safety stuff standard like stability control and IMu
Absolutely stunning bike. I'd have one in a heartbeat if I could afford it.
Hopefully, an X Diavel V4 comes at the end of the year.
What a machine but don’t fancy having to scrub the rear light after every ride so won’t be getting one, nothing to do with the price you understand 🤔
Nice videos review 👍
do you know ducati’s presenting diavel v4S someday?
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Great bike but...WOW That price tag! £23.5k and if you wanted that Akrapovic exhaust then that's another £5k! Jeeez
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It fucking looks gorgeous!!! You buy it not for power but looks and statement
BEAUTIFUL BIKE DUCATI V4 VERY WELL MODEL EXCELLENT COLOUR RED FANTASTIC RIDE AND SOUND WANTERFUL
Good review! Attractive bike, though I'll never buy one. Yours is the first one I've seen that doesn't begin with a Dubai flyover. 👍
The perfect engine, torque and high rev horsepower. Perfect cruiser over $40,000 cvo Harley
What do you mean nothing comes close, yamaha vmax
Reeeeeally wish more manufactures would use the fold away passenger pegs
I a big diavel fan owning a gen 1 and a gen 3 , I don’t like the sound of the cylinder 2-4 thing , sound like that could be a pain , since they put a v4 in ,it would be nice to actually use 4 cylinders , but this could be too much tech , and actually get on your nerves , not convinced on the , you don’t notice it or you’d never know !! Just saying !! I’ll test ride one first , 🏍🏍👍👍
Why is every motorcycle channel putting out a ducati video all at the same time???? 😂
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Because the model introduction was done for all the journos at the same time/same place.
XDiavel replacement hmm...US is 26,695 for V4, that's a spicy meatball.
Not a fan of the stock exhaust design, but I see why they did it. I think the XDiavel was a better looking bike and the 1160 sings a better tune to my ears.
Diavel 1260 for 21,795 is the one I would go for (if I were going to buy one, which I'm not :) )
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needs the Ti exhaust system to make the proper tones 👌
Also the suspension on Diavel always shakes your fillings.
Why the fuck don’t they use Ohlins as standard especially for the price tag.
It’s the first thing to swap out.
My opinion this is my next bike🎉
Love just precious 👑
To me is most Gourgeous looking bike!!
Bloody awesome
Don't like the stock exhaust. But not prepared to pay 5k for the Akro. Also, quite a few insurers will not insure it with the Akro on it.
No mods needed
Dream bike!