100k for a MULE that you use and forget about it, or 50-60k for Obdolbos 2 + 20k for propital to not die, and your stamina gets nuked. It's cheaper for a reason.
Thought the same thing. Mule is still better. If you really need to run, pop sj6. Dont know about everyone, but i use mine rearly to really make any difference rouble wise.
The obdolbos 2 also lasts for 30 minutes while the propital lasts for 5. If you used the obdolbos 2 for that entire duration you'd need to use 6 propital. Plus the SJ6 and you end up using your entire injector case. There's zero reason to use it over a MULE. You'd end up using your entire injector case worth of stims just for extra weight limit.
@@kingsleebrigade6714 Very true. Tried this out earlier in the wipe. Even with propital, I had to use meds every so often to keep my head and thorax at max health.
Last wipe it didn't have any negative effect, the current ones were positive effect like +stamina instead of -stamina. It was going for 300k on the flea late wipe definitely not a budget option at the time.
i used obdo 2 all last wipe, it changed the debuffs use to be 80% extra damage to your pmc expect headshots, run with zabralo and u were unstoppable. rarely died tanked so many fights. as well it healed you better then propital was insane. now i dont use it to offen instead i find i pop a meldonin as it helps u a bit ealier thoughtout the raid instead of just for leaving. stacking with sj6 and trimidol u can run for days above 65kg
You can max out your metabolism and the debuff duration is only 900s, so you can take just 3 propitals or sometimes just heal with your aid kit. You can also pop nor-adrenaline and get out with 90+ kilos pretty easily. The only issue with using obdolbos and propital is pvp. You cannot pop another propital to heal during the fight, so you gotta carry some etgs. Looting black card on Labs is also kinda difficult with this many stims in injector case, so this is the only reason to use mule instead
This is also false as far as I know because you don't hit elite using stims, you go up to lvl 60 I think but you still gain strength XP. You just have to be pretty heavy
Thank you, 10 months later and prices the same. You can also use trimadol for 3 stamina per sec but you get 1 less minute, so more conservative but trimadol is half the price of sj6
U forgot to count that u need 3 propital for debuf duration(900 sec) well if u not directly extracting. Dolbos+3 prop =110k+sj= 150-160k, unless u only using the stim for extraction purposes within 5 minutes. Then 50+20+50 =120, i prefer mule personally( for space ) 3 prop 1 etg 1 mule 1sj6 1 trimadol 1 blueblood and 1 free space. Just think of it this way, Mule = strong/expensive Dolbos = stong/bleeding/cheaper *u wont notice how bad is the -1 persec until u use it. I know really well because i i use dolbos for that 15 scav jeager mission, u need half grizzly and constantly healing without prop(basically a must) So, mule still my choices but dolbos is not bad except for crazy degen. Last wipe there is no degen but dng taken increase if im not mistaken. But only for extraction, i do agree dolbos2 is a lot cheaper even with sj. I rather crawl this wipe campared to using mule just because of the price, if u already 70-80kg there is very small chances u will meet other pmc anyyway
The purpose of this is for EXTRACTING. One Ob2 + Propital, hit the extract, and your out only spending 70k. If you plan to be in a raid overweight for a long period of time then yes, the Mule is a much better choice.
The only reason I haven't kept using the obdolbos 2 injector is because a friend and I have randomly died after using it. It doesn't list the chance in the stats like obdolbos 1, but me and a friend have both instantly died as soon as we popped obdolbos 2 just this wipe. For me, that's why I will stick with m.u.l.e. Also there are quite a few posts on reddit saying the same thing, as I was curious why it happened to me but it wasn't listed as a stat. Nikita just likes to do a bit of trolling i guess.
There are no hidden stats on consumables in Tarkov. Obdolbos 2 might kill you if you have a blacked thorax or head, but otherwise it can't instantly kill you. You might remember the stim wrong from the events last wipe, because BSG kept changing the stats on the stims almost every patch.
I don't want to be rude, but... One of the advantages you mentioned is that the obdolbus is for 30 minutes, but the pro.pital is only for 5 minutes. So you would have to inject at least 6 propitals and that is about 120k... So the advantage in value is completely gone. Yes, you can comment that you will not use it for 30 minutes, but then what is the difference between that and a mule? but thx for your videos
Showing the time difference was more of a "This is how long they last" on paper. I use it at the end of a raid where I'm super heavy, pop one propital and hit the extract. It's not much cheaper than a Mule, but it's still cheaper.
Not quite sure about this, mule is still worth it for 30k more than obdolbos2 + propital. I personally use a mule only to extract with the FIR tank battery. After that I prefer dropping some heavy loot and save 100k instead of popping it just to extract 200k more roubles but risking to die to a scav cause I'm too heavy...
Ayyy, just carry around 7 Propatals and you can go almost the entire raid with all them perks. lol Although it is nice to have the weight reduction and 5 minutes to get out. I'll try it. (Might add an SJ6 to the mix to get 10+ Stamina) I usually just stick with the Trimadol and SJ6 combo. 40+ Max Stamina and +5 Stamina Recovery for 3 minutes. 👌(Zoom for 3 minutes)
Mule is definitely the better option if you don't plan on extracting immediately. I think a lot of people are missing the point that this stim is used for dipping straight to the extract.
Do you know if OBD2 used to increase damage % taken? I thought I heard last wipe that you take double damage on it, which was why I avoided it. This doesn’t seem bad at all when you combo with propital
no one uses the obdolbos 2 generally because there's a chance of instantly dying from it. it's a lower chance then it used to be but it's still a chance. if you're that looted that means you're probably near the end of the raid and there isn't much threat other than scavs so the mule will get you out and no risk of instant death. if you intend on using this stim, pop it at the start of the raid, it last long enough to get you through almost any raid and if you're going to instantly die from it, better off doing it at the start.
Hahaha! Just got into stims and didn't watch the whole video. Got myself an obdolbos 2 to loot faster. Insanely fast actually. But... I forgot to bring propital. So I died faster than I could loot. Should have watched the entire thing. My bad. 🤣 Thanks for the tip on top of the tip.
Yes its halb a Price but you need 3 Probs for this.... The Obdo is good when you want loot many creats, bags etc. (more looting speed) but better...sry...bothe stims have good and bad characteristics. When you take a loot round, better you dont think about it whether 40 or 60k more price..
This guy himself proved that ob2 sucks ass and then followed it with "that's why it's better then mule"...😂 I dont care about extra 50k expense because other debuffs are way stronger.
This is stupid on so many levels XD... Just level to Max. Strength.Just use MULE and u are fine 1. u dont need those Stims 90% of the Time. 2. u Talk about the cost but u have to use propital also. 3. its nice to know but at the end ... if u Loot that much or u have a quest and u have to be mobile (fast).. i dont give a F about the 20-30k. MULE 110k , Propital+ obdolbus 80k AND u lose Max stamina and Premading (using painkiller is awful outta combat) , so maybe u also use a sj6. 150k .. if u think about that , u will understand it.
@@natoninemilfirepower7996 It’s just a simple “I made this content that took me literal hours, it would be cool if you subscribed if you enjoyed it. If not it’s totally cool”. But seems like it upsets you big time which is also fine. I appreciate you stopping by regardless.
ahh yess, I’ll totally use the stim that gives -1800 damage over time and then stack multiple propitals on it 😂. This is bad advice tbh. Definitely not subbing!
@@TheBen9701 Key word there “asked”. That does not mean I expect you to. People who enjoy the content will likely choose to subscribe. You clearly do not like the content, so you won’t be subscribing. Therefore, I do not care whether you do or don’t. Have a good one!
@@slickumss no, as you stated in the video this stim lasts way longer than the MULE. Prop won’t heal you for that long, you’d have to pop 2-3 depending on how far you are from your extraction, MULE hurts you way less, it saying it’s not good but it’s for sure way worse than MULE and the price reflects that.
I stated it lasts longer because... it does? The purpose of this video is which is better for EXTRACTING. If you want to sit in raid for a while overweight, use the Mule. If you want to extract immediately, use Ob2 and propital. Both have advantages, but when it comes to just extracting, you will save more money using Ob2 and Propital.
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100k for a MULE that you use and forget about it, or 50-60k for Obdolbos 2 + 20k for propital to not die, and your stamina gets nuked. It's cheaper for a reason.
Thought the same thing. Mule is still better. If you really need to run, pop sj6. Dont know about everyone, but i use mine rearly to really make any difference rouble wise.
The obdolbos 2 also lasts for 30 minutes while the propital lasts for 5. If you used the obdolbos 2 for that entire duration you'd need to use 6 propital. Plus the SJ6 and you end up using your entire injector case. There's zero reason to use it over a MULE. You'd end up using your entire injector case worth of stims just for extra weight limit.
mule still damaged you wdym dummy lol
all you need is one oldolbos 2 and 3 props total
@@kingsleebrigade6714 Very true. Tried this out earlier in the wipe. Even with propital, I had to use meds every so often to keep my head and thorax at max health.
dont make the prices rise with this vid bro 😭
Was thinking the same thing ☠️🤣
Too late 🤣
@@slickumss noooooo
Oh man 😭
He's made prices for all my sneaky barters and everything skyrocket to the point they aren't even worth doing anymore lmao
Last wipe it didn't have any negative effect, the current ones were positive effect like +stamina instead of -stamina. It was going for 300k on the flea late wipe definitely not a budget option at the time.
Went for 300k because it was used for a quest.
+ it was called glass canon for a reason 90%+ inc dmg except head
@@lev1687 Wrong drug, you can check wiki history, it didn't have any negative effect.
i use SJ6 + TRIMADOL and my stamina never end i run like a maniac overweight !!!! a lot of people dont know this
keep pumping out these videos brother, soon youll be full time streamer/content creator with 100k subs. Well deserved Congratulations man
That’s the dream. I’ve been grinding RUclips for over 10 years, it’s nice to finally see some success!
i used obdo 2 all last wipe, it changed the debuffs use to be 80% extra damage to your pmc expect headshots, run with zabralo and u were unstoppable. rarely died tanked so many fights. as well it healed you better then propital was insane. now i dont use it to offen instead i find i pop a meldonin as it helps u a bit ealier thoughtout the raid instead of just for leaving. stacking with sj6 and trimidol u can run for days above 65kg
You can max out your metabolism and the debuff duration is only 900s, so you can take just 3 propitals or sometimes just heal with your aid kit. You can also pop nor-adrenaline and get out with 90+ kilos pretty easily.
The only issue with using obdolbos and propital is pvp. You cannot pop another propital to heal during the fight, so you gotta carry some etgs. Looting black card on Labs is also kinda difficult with this many stims in injector case, so this is the only reason to use mule instead
if you're looting black you should always invest in a second injector case to bring with a gamma.
The only hidden downside, if obdl2 puts you at 51 str you won’t gain any strength skill while the stim is active
Great point!
This is also false as far as I know because you don't hit elite using stims, you go up to lvl 60 I think but you still gain strength XP. You just have to be pretty heavy
Also hidden insta death with dolbos2
never had it and ran it like 100 raids@@mitchelllee569
@@mitchelllee569 There are no hidden debuffs with this stim.
Most underrated Tarkov creator ever! Bro never misses always top tier videos!
yesterday mule was 200k. I always use Obdolbos2, but you gotta remember to hit propital at the same time
Thank you, 10 months later and prices the same. You can also use trimadol for 3 stamina per sec but you get 1 less minute, so more conservative but trimadol is half the price of sj6
thank you for revealing the hidden meta , time to buy stonks before price goes up
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U forgot to count that u need 3 propital for debuf duration(900 sec) well if u not directly extracting.
Dolbos+3 prop =110k+sj= 150-160k, unless u only using the stim for extraction purposes within 5 minutes. Then 50+20+50 =120, i prefer mule personally( for space ) 3 prop 1 etg 1 mule 1sj6 1 trimadol 1 blueblood and 1 free space.
Just think of it this way,
Mule = strong/expensive
Dolbos = stong/bleeding/cheaper
*u wont notice how bad is the -1 persec until u use it. I know really well because i i use dolbos for that 15 scav jeager mission, u need half grizzly and constantly healing without prop(basically a must)
So, mule still my choices but dolbos is not bad except for crazy degen. Last wipe there is no degen but dng taken increase if im not mistaken.
But only for extraction, i do agree dolbos2 is a lot cheaper even with sj. I rather crawl this wipe campared to using mule just because of the price, if u already 70-80kg there is very small chances u will meet other pmc anyyway
The purpose of this is for EXTRACTING. One Ob2 + Propital, hit the extract, and your out only spending 70k.
If you plan to be in a raid overweight for a long period of time then yes, the Mule is a much better choice.
If i need to get out of raid in a hurry with a full bag (60kg+) i pop a trimidol + sj6. Stam bar literally doesnt move. Around 70k for the combo
The only reason I haven't kept using the obdolbos 2 injector is because a friend and I have randomly died after using it. It doesn't list the chance in the stats like obdolbos 1, but me and a friend have both instantly died as soon as we popped obdolbos 2 just this wipe. For me, that's why I will stick with m.u.l.e. Also there are quite a few posts on reddit saying the same thing, as I was curious why it happened to me but it wasn't listed as a stat. Nikita just likes to do a bit of trolling i guess.
I've probably used it 50 times and haven't died yet. Are you sure it wasn't the original obdolbos?
u die bc u use obdolbos, not obdolbos 2
There are no hidden stats on consumables in Tarkov. Obdolbos 2 might kill you if you have a blacked thorax or head, but otherwise it can't instantly kill you. You might remember the stim wrong from the events last wipe, because BSG kept changing the stats on the stims almost every patch.
yeah positive it wasnt obdolbos 1. I dont even keep obdolbos 1 in my stash let alone my injectors case. @@slickumss
I dont use obdolbos, I sell them all, olbdolbos 2 is the stim i used.@@Viechi
I don't want to be rude, but... One of the advantages you mentioned is that the obdolbus is for 30 minutes, but the pro.pital is only for 5 minutes. So you would have to inject at least 6 propitals and that is about 120k... So the advantage in value is completely gone. Yes, you can comment that you will not use it for 30 minutes, but then what is the difference between that and a mule? but thx for your videos
Showing the time difference was more of a "This is how long they last" on paper. I use it at the end of a raid where I'm super heavy, pop one propital and hit the extract. It's not much cheaper than a Mule, but it's still cheaper.
Thanks for this dude 👍
Not quite sure about this, mule is still worth it for 30k more than obdolbos2 + propital. I personally use a mule only to extract with the FIR tank battery. After that I prefer dropping some heavy loot and save 100k instead of popping it just to extract 200k more roubles but risking to die to a scav cause I'm too heavy...
obd 2 came into game last wipe and didnt bleed your hp thats what changed this wipe it now kills you slowly
What's crazy about that stim is that last wipe it had +80% damage taken
that was only at the end of wipe, it was a special event.
"Arguably... is definitely..." 😅
Inertia is definitely in that conversation.
your videos are so helpful keep it up💪
Happy to hear that!
Noo, you revealed my secret now it will rise in price
Ayyy, just carry around 7 Propatals and you can go almost the entire raid with all them perks. lol
Although it is nice to have the weight reduction and 5 minutes to get out. I'll try it. (Might add an SJ6 to the mix to get 10+ Stamina)
I usually just stick with the Trimadol and SJ6 combo. 40+ Max Stamina and +5 Stamina Recovery for 3 minutes. 👌(Zoom for 3 minutes)
Mule is definitely the better option if you don't plan on extracting immediately. I think a lot of people are missing the point that this stim is used for dipping straight to the extract.
I mean if you're that thick with loot, i wouldn't be that concerned with being out 100k
update: obdol-100k,mule 150k
This video was made last wipe my man.
HUGE W, thank you
Do you know if OBD2 used to increase damage % taken? I thought I heard last wipe that you take double damage on it, which was why I avoided it. This doesn’t seem bad at all when you combo with propital
it did, it was like 80% increase to damage taken. i only used it with zabralo last wipe.
no one uses the obdolbos 2 generally because there's a chance of instantly dying from it. it's a lower chance then it used to be but it's still a chance. if you're that looted that means you're probably near the end of the raid and there isn't much threat other than scavs so the mule will get you out and no risk of instant death. if you intend on using this stim, pop it at the start of the raid, it last long enough to get you through almost any raid and if you're going to instantly die from it, better off doing it at the start.
I've used it probably 50 times and haven't died yet.
i used it so much and i never died
Idk I think other people’s comments are getting to you lol. Never has it killed me. I’d like to see an actual video of this happening
You’ll need food and drinks!
oldobos 2 + propital + sj6 is the way to go.. Mule overprice and rare to find on raid
Hahaha! Just got into stims and didn't watch the whole video. Got myself an obdolbos 2 to loot faster. Insanely fast actually. But... I forgot to bring propital. So I died faster than I could loot. Should have watched the entire thing. My bad. 🤣 Thanks for the tip on top of the tip.
Great Vid! wish i played enough to use sticks 😢
If you want a little weight relief, L1 is the way to go.
Rip old obdolbos2 😢
nice dude thanx
Any time!
doesnt it do 90% more damage to body?
Not anymore I think
delete this before they become 100k
Whoops
Too late
I use this stim with sj1 and proptial
Yes its halb a Price but you need 3 Probs for this.... The Obdo is good when you want loot many creats, bags etc. (more looting speed) but better...sry...bothe stims have good and bad characteristics.
When you take a loot round, better you dont think about it whether 40 or 60k more price..
One year later I’m paying 100 k for this stomach lol
This plus a p22 is OP.
So spend the same amount of money but use 2 stims instead. Got it.
How is 50-70k the same as 100-120k? Math is not your strongest attribute that’s for sure.
I'm Butters wuuuut uuup
This guy himself proved that ob2 sucks ass and then followed it with "that's why it's better then mule"...😂 I dont care about extra 50k expense because other debuffs are way stronger.
yeah i really dont get why he thinks its good. Tried one after this video, used three propitols cause of the -1hp/second lmaoooo GREAT STIM DUDE
tRIMADOL Is also good
Coming soon 😎
for the algorithm
This is stupid on so many levels XD... Just level to Max. Strength.Just use MULE and u are fine
1. u dont need those Stims 90% of the Time.
2. u Talk about the cost but u have to use propital also.
3. its nice to know but at the end ... if u Loot that much or u have a quest and u have to be mobile (fast).. i dont give a F about the 20-30k.
MULE 110k , Propital+ obdolbus 80k AND u lose Max stamina and Premading (using painkiller is awful outta combat) , so maybe u also use a sj6. 150k .. if u think about that , u will understand it.
accaording to wiki this stim has a 25% chance to kill u lol
No it does not.
@@slickumss my bad, mixed the odolbos up. lol
Why you making the price rise lmao
Sorry bout that 😎
Haha literally cnt even loot the dudes i kill why did they do that yo thir game the loot is everywhere but im always overweight at raid start always
Some things are better left unsaid, this was one of them .
Bwuh did du doh dat peeple aint subbed tu me??, shaddap and gimme the tip
Man that really upsets some of you 😂
@@slickumss it is annoying, played out, and removes all possibility i will sub to you
@@natoninemilfirepower7996 It’s just a simple “I made this content that took me literal hours, it would be cool if you subscribed if you enjoyed it. If not it’s totally cool”.
But seems like it upsets you big time which is also fine. I appreciate you stopping by regardless.
ahh yess, I’ll totally use the stim that gives -1800 damage over time and then stack multiple propitals on it 😂. This is bad advice tbh. Definitely not subbing!
I literally could not care less if you subscribe or not. You commented and boosted the video in the algorithm. The jokes on you.
@@slickumss you asked me to in the video :)
@@TheBen9701 Key word there “asked”. That does not mean I expect you to. People who enjoy the content will likely choose to subscribe. You clearly do not like the content, so you won’t be subscribing. Therefore, I do not care whether you do or don’t.
Have a good one!
thanks for releasing this secret. now the price is going to rise. thanks man, not
You'll be okay!
I’m not subscribing cause you keep telling people about my secrets.
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Half the price… but 10x the self damage… I’ll stick to M.U.L.E thanks…
Enjoy spending an extra 20-40k every time you use it I guess?
enjoy spending another 100k on healing back your missing hp, 1 HP every second for 30 minuets... fun@@slickumss
A propital is 20k my man. Only need one.
@@slickumss no, as you stated in the video this stim lasts way longer than the MULE. Prop won’t heal you for that long, you’d have to pop 2-3 depending on how far you are from your extraction, MULE hurts you way less, it saying it’s not good but it’s for sure way worse than MULE and the price reflects that.
I stated it lasts longer because... it does? The purpose of this video is which is better for EXTRACTING. If you want to sit in raid for a while overweight, use the Mule. If you want to extract immediately, use Ob2 and propital. Both have advantages, but when it comes to just extracting, you will save more money using Ob2 and Propital.
Delete this rn
trimadol + sj6 all u need
With having to run a prop with it the odoblos just isn't worth using for me. You only save 30k if that much and the pk effect is hot garbage
More for me 😎
I feel like the only person who doesn't hate the pk effect
@@GraphixHurricane you are.
@@DesmoxMyco 😭😂