This one was a blast! If I remember correctly I started to run out of inf around 35min mark, hence the overinvestment to planes and arty. I really should have had an unvetted card of kivääri in C Certainly missed opportunities by me but your massive push was very solid. It felt like I just could not deal with the amount of bodies coming at me😂 shows also how important good momentum is!
Oh that really sucks. You would have won this game easily if you had enough inf. Yeah that would probably have beet a good call. That's the issue if all your inf is so cheap. I think the biggest issue though was that you didn't push enough in A. On the northern flank the frontline indicated that I was weak. But that's of course always easier to realize afterwards😅 I don't know anymore for sure but I think I saw that my inf numbers were getting low so when I noticed all that recon armour that hasn't been used yet i decided to just spam that. It was a desperation move haha. I used hardly any combined arms and tried to just solve things with inf. I was actually close to just surrendering after I lost the flank because my AA had died, I was slowly ticking down and I realized that I was getting outtraded heavily. But I guess it goes to show that you shouldn't surrender too early. Though once again, if you had the infantry my initial feeling would have been right. But regardless, it was a fun game, ggs and wp again
@CommanderOwlFtunk I agree. Especially lack of aggression in the north early on was pretty bad. I'm sometimes too focused on trading on mirror incomes... GG's too!
Really good game, well played by both players. It seems to me that pinned units still have a little frontline power, the frontline in the southern town was really weird towards the end. I think quite a while back the finnish infantry good worse (relatively seen). And after all it is about getting those flags, very well done! But: The game made me pick 17. Divisioona as one of my divs for the January monthly :-D
@@VampiroGaming Maybe Jaapaasa knows this better but I think they suffered in the mos meta even though that was very much an infantry meta. Primarily because the jaakari didn‘t get the shock trait but all the other cqc did. The finns were never very strong but they were strong in their niche. The problem was, now relative to the Jaakari everything got buffed. And now it‘s more of an armour meta so the two finnish inf divisiond naturally aren‘t that good. Cool! Curious to see how it works out. I still love to see these non-meta picks.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk Ah true, that was it :) They basically lost their Infantry/CQC/Tsel niche power. Yes, me too :D If I get to play them, but I think I will. (monthly intermediate)
@ This content does exist as well, allthough there is much less. There is the playing every division series and there are a few of my own tournament games. I took a break from this type of content because in my new appartement the socket for internet connection hasn‘t been installed yet. But this will be done soon and then this content will come back. The main focus will still be casts though.
You bring the Lagg-3 to show us how it can be bad 😂 It is a demonstration to sell us an other plane 😉 Hunt in MGB has to be made by spitifire reco and mig they are great in pairing them. Im still wondering why so many players removed the evac winchester and while seeing that they’ve bombers in their deck it s completely non-sense. So many planes lost for a skill that so few have and honestly doesn’t matter at all even for the ones who have. I didn’t say that players who played there don’t have it but even they have or not, it s meaningless. I would understand with a div where the player only take a fighter bomber and doesn’t take a fighter. A div like pz lehr or 1SS. But in 98% of the cases removed evac winchester costs more than it rewards. And the ammunition trick (2 bombs loadout) still can be done with evac winchester. I already said and it was by pure charity that I gave that advice. It is litteraly an advantage for me to let players remove evac winchester. A SSB guy (good for one time) today hunt my fighter with an hellcat rocket plane after launched his rocket, He did by default (forgot) or he gave the order, in both cases it was not so smart bc he lost it.
auto evac is bad imo because every plane may need to try to dodge enemy fighters/bait them over your AA. Auto evac makes heavy bombers easy prey to fighters. While many players make mistakes with evac off, I still think it's better to learn that way.
Yeah I looked at the deck again after the cast and really asked myself why I took the Lagg since had the same thought then, the Spitfire and the Mig are just much better as you say. And I already had the Spitfire in the deck anyway. I agree with Jaapaasa on the auto-evac though. Yes, in this game and in my recent games in general I screwed it up a lot but I have been going down in skill so that's not surprising but if you can use it well turning auto evac off is the best way imo.
@@jaapaasa I disagree. I will try to explain why and i will say why i think that it is because of me maybe. When you count the amount of times when you have this situation of your bomber got down by a fighter bc auto-evac is on, it is way less that the amount of times you lose a plane bc you forget, you evac it too late. And you have also the time of reload you are losing with auto evac off and also your plane has more chances to go through AA if you are late to evac it and the it tales more damage increasing the time towards availibilty. In my pov overall auto evac is way better. The auto evac is faster than us to evac and it s rare than you turn directly above the AA enemy. I m pretty sure that auto evac is better but it is my pov. Very often i don’t lose an only plane in a game while i have auto evac and it s very very rare for me to lose a plane because i have the auto evac on. But maybe Im in the minority who see the problem like that me bc i use lot of planes. And when you use lot of planes you can buy a fighter to hunt the fighters hunting your bombers.
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This one was a blast! If I remember correctly I started to run out of inf around 35min mark, hence the overinvestment to planes and arty. I really should have had an unvetted card of kivääri in C
Certainly missed opportunities by me but your massive push was very solid. It felt like I just could not deal with the amount of bodies coming at me😂 shows also how important good momentum is!
Oh that really sucks. You would have won this game easily if you had enough inf. Yeah that would probably have beet a good call. That's the issue if all your inf is so cheap. I think the biggest issue though was that you didn't push enough in A. On the northern flank the frontline indicated that I was weak. But that's of course always easier to realize afterwards😅
I don't know anymore for sure but I think I saw that my inf numbers were getting low so when I noticed all that recon armour that hasn't been used yet i decided to just spam that. It was a desperation move haha. I used hardly any combined arms and tried to just solve things with inf.
I was actually close to just surrendering after I lost the flank because my AA had died, I was slowly ticking down and I realized that I was getting outtraded heavily. But I guess it goes to show that you shouldn't surrender too early. Though once again, if you had the infantry my initial feeling would have been right.
But regardless, it was a fun game, ggs and wp again
@CommanderOwlFtunk I agree. Especially lack of aggression in the north early on was pretty bad. I'm sometimes too focused on trading on mirror incomes... GG's too!
Very entertaining game to watch!
Happy new year! Epic game and a nice cast, thanks!
Really good game, well played by both players. It seems to me that pinned units still have a little frontline power, the frontline in the southern town was really weird towards the end. I think quite a while back the finnish infantry good worse (relatively seen). And after all it is about getting those flags, very well done! But: The game made me pick 17. Divisioona as one of my divs for the January monthly :-D
@@VampiroGaming Maybe Jaapaasa knows this better but I think they suffered in the mos meta even though that was very much an infantry meta. Primarily because the jaakari didn‘t get the shock trait but all the other cqc did. The finns were never very strong but they were strong in their niche. The problem was, now relative to the Jaakari everything got buffed.
And now it‘s more of an armour meta so the two finnish inf divisiond naturally aren‘t that good.
Cool! Curious to see how it works out. I still love to see these non-meta picks.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk Ah true, that was it :) They basically lost their Infantry/CQC/Tsel niche power.
Yes, me too :D If I get to play them, but I think I will. (monthly intermediate)
Great cast-any chance of 1v1 live?
@@shanemiller667 You mean as in streaming a cast or streaming me playing?
Or just as in a video of a 1v1 game
being played?
@@CommanderOwlFtunk lIVE GAME PLAY DURING A GAME/TORNAMENT ETC -COMMENTING AS YOU PLAY-ATKPOWER /VULCAN ETC CREATED A LOT OF CONTENT LIKE THIS -THANKS
@ This content does exist as well, allthough there is much less. There is the playing every division series and there are a few of my own tournament games.
I took a break from this type of content because in my new appartement the socket for internet connection hasn‘t been installed yet. But this will be done soon and then this content will come back.
The main focus will still be casts though.
🎉🎉🎉2025🎉🎉🎉
You bring the Lagg-3 to show us how it can be bad 😂
It is a demonstration to sell us an other plane 😉 Hunt in MGB has to be made by spitifire reco and mig they are great in pairing them.
Im still wondering why so many players removed the evac winchester and while seeing that they’ve bombers in their deck it s completely non-sense.
So many planes lost for a skill that so few have and honestly doesn’t matter at all even for the ones who have. I didn’t say that players who played there don’t have it but even they have or not, it s meaningless.
I would understand with a div where the player only take a fighter bomber and doesn’t take a fighter. A div like pz lehr or 1SS. But in 98% of the cases removed evac winchester costs more than it rewards. And the ammunition trick (2 bombs loadout) still can be done with evac winchester.
I already said and it was by pure charity that I gave that advice. It is litteraly an advantage for me to let players remove evac winchester.
A SSB guy (good for one time) today hunt my fighter with an hellcat rocket plane after launched his rocket, He did by default (forgot) or he gave the order, in both cases it was not so smart bc he lost it.
auto evac is bad imo because every plane may need to try to dodge enemy fighters/bait them over your AA. Auto evac makes heavy bombers easy prey to fighters.
While many players make mistakes with evac off, I still think it's better to learn that way.
Yeah I looked at the deck again after the cast and really asked myself why I took the Lagg since had the same thought then, the Spitfire and the Mig are just much better as you say. And I already had the Spitfire in the deck anyway.
I agree with Jaapaasa on the auto-evac though. Yes, in this game and in my recent games in general I screwed it up a lot but I have been going down in skill so that's not surprising but if you can use it well turning auto evac off is the best way imo.
@@jaapaasa I disagree. I will try to explain why and i will say why i think that it is because of me maybe.
When you count the amount of times when you have this situation of your bomber got down by a fighter bc auto-evac is on, it is way less that the amount of times you lose a plane bc you forget, you evac it too late. And you have also the time of reload you are losing with auto evac off and also your plane has more chances to go through AA if you are late to evac it and the it tales more damage increasing the time towards availibilty.
In my pov overall auto evac is way better. The auto evac is faster than us to evac and it s rare than you turn directly above the AA enemy.
I m pretty sure that auto evac is better but it is my pov. Very often i don’t lose an only plane in a game while i have auto evac and it s very very rare for me to lose a plane because i have the auto evac on.
But maybe Im in the minority who see the problem like that me bc i use lot of planes.
And when you use lot of planes you can buy a fighter to hunt the fighters hunting your bombers.
@@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42
Your pov makes sense👍 For me, I still prefer to have the control myself, even if I do it badly sometimes
I so want 17.Divisioona to be good but it really, really isn't. GG though.
@@wafflekopf9429 Yeah it is a shame because it‘s an interesting division.