Benchmarking Intel CPU and Radeon GPU on Android?!?!?
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2019
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Actually, because Android runs on the Linux kernel, it *IS* modular. The reason why you were able to use the AMD GPU on Android and not the Nvidia one, is because Linux has the Open Source AMD GPU stack built into the kernel already.
ye AMD strikes another blow!
I think you misunderstood what he meant...
He meant modular in terms of hardware
When is the last time you upgraded the ram in your phone? :D
@@garytallowin6623 the fact that he can just throw in a AMD GPU like that and have it work, and likely swap it out with another one is what *makes* it modular. phone manufacturers don't have much say in the software that interfaces with the hardware. also, it *is* possible to upgrade the RAM in your phone, it's been done before. android is designed to be modular because there's a wide variety of devices, if it WASN'T modular, then you wouldn't see so many different flavors of phones out there with different levels of hardware.
Also, Adreno used to be the movile side of the Radeon group.
I did not know this.... cool.
"Don't bring a fist to a gun fight."
You were saying?
Transparent CPU Monitor is a good task manager type program to monitor cpu,gpu,and ram. also GLtools might help with some keyboard and mouse inputs.
Also im not surprised that AMD gpu's work better with android cause Adreno is actually a mobile AMD gpu division based GPU that Qualcomm bought from AMD.
Fun fact ADRENO is an anigram of RADEON.
Amazing!!!
So did Snapdragon buy AMD's IP then?
@@nexxusty I think you meant Qualcomm, that's like calling amd "ryzen" or calling Intel "core I"
Actually, that might not be the case. The AMD gpu drivers were already built into the kernel, as seen with Ubuntu, Mint Linux, and other distros. Sure, that adrenal fact is true, but that is not the case. If that were true, google would have partnered with Qualcomm and AMD to have AMD gpu support (or gpu with similar architecture) to be built into the system, not the kernel.
no luck with nvidia GPUs since there's no driver code (or very little other than a basic software render passthrough) for them in the linux kernel, however, for AMD GPUs there's open source drivers for linux, most likely more has been merged with the kernel, same applies for intel integrated GPUs, also, the android system itself will run better on AMD GPUs anyway since all snapdragon based phones (there is kirin, exynos and mediatek) use adreno GPUs, which was a mobile GFX project under development by AMD in the mid to late 2000s, it was bought by qualcomm in 2009. So although its not GCN based, it shares similarities, so you will simply get better performance from AMD GPUs. also, adreno is an anagram of radeon.
sort of makes me happy to know that AMDs work is powering the majority of smartphones.
Not only did that guy get punched to death by a nude character, to add insult to injury, Timmy didn't even loot and then quit the game.
Savage.
When you went to your own show On RUclips running on android Software, running on PC hardware, And me on my phone watching you in your studio, and you watching yourself on your monitor Hooked to a PC running android software, that was running RUclips, that you were watching in your studio, Was a total inception moment!
i totally recommend this, i have ben using my old laptop to watch live tv for 2 months now, works perfectly.
Always appreciate your awesome videos man!
linux requires a third party driver installed from nvidia's page for whatever linux distro your running you can also a controller or map your mouse to specific application functions. As far as sound you need to download the linux driver from evga or realtek if that is who makes the sound on the board and then install from terminal or do a full kernel rebuild.
He does a load of emulation stuff as ETA prime is an awesome wee channel 👍
I love how you used an HEDT platform for this, especially with the EVGA X299 Dark
Love the Adventure Time figurines in the background :)
Hi. You did something i have always been looking to see! The apples to apples benchmark comparison between a proper desktop cpu and phone cpu. You can now actually see how much faster the desktop cpus actually are!
OH I WAITED FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS for soo long!!!
When I played the mobile version of PUBG on my pc, the mouse was literally just like the PC version. The look function was perfect, and the right and left click were perfect.
Yes Timmy ...eta prime is a awsome dude....n funny I have 2xasus tinker boards and 1 of the older latte pandas 4g model...awsome vid man!! Cool 2 see u do this!!
Gotta be pumped on that right Will Wooh!
Timmy Joe Death Punch! So funny. Great content as always.
Timmy Joe are you still looking for a P55 system to review?
Did you try plugging in speakers from the HD audio port. That is how I got audio to work on my Android build.
Fun fact Adreno was originally called the ATI Imageon, ATI's mobile graphics division back in the day, AMD sold sold the mobile graphics division to Qualcomm and they renamed it to Adreno which is an anagram of Radeon. Also the Nvidia issue is mostly due to the very limited Nouveau open source Nvidia driver in the linux kernel, AMD and Intel uses the Mesa open source driver and it is their primary driver on Linux which is why AMD and Intel graphics work out of the box with little to no issue on android x86
Why!?
"Because I can".
thats pretty cool TJ, it would cool if you installed some linux distros like Ubuntu or Elementary OS to test out on AMD or Intel hardware.
This has got to be the most interesting video I've seen all day
Which GPU did you use ?
That cop you shot, was that the sherif or the deputy
This I believe is the first stable version and all the other before were betas so give it a bit of time ! Timmy Joe did you try using a Microsoft controller ? Wonder how it supports multi monitors ?
The reason NVidia hardware suffers with Android/Linux is primarily because it lacks the driver stack to be able to function correctly, and NVidia's drivers are proprietary even on Linux/Android. AMD's drivers (AMDGPU) on Linux are open source and therefore are built straight into the kernel. Ergo, you would be able to run literally any AMD graphics processor on that machine. If you striggle with getting certain newer cards working, then you can grab the latest AMDGPU stack for Linux from AMD.
He's using a computer running android and I'm using a phone running android as a computer, what is this world becoming.
Just so you know I'm using Samsung dex.
Samsung Dex sucks for the simple fact it doesn't have spell check
Have you thought about chrome is running Android apps on that setup?
Try Bluestacks or Nox, both Android emulators for windows PC's.
Do you know if the Bluestacks outperform on this Android x86 porting software? 4
Bluestacks runs VM, this is native Android.
Of course this is faster. In every conceivable way.
@@ShomyMK dual boot remix OS or something similar if you want the full performance, BlueStacks is shitty and full of adware anyways.
My computer during install says detecting Android and then goes to a black screen with a cursor on the top left corner and just then just black. Any advice.
Be hella curious to know how much better or worse this is than Bluestacks. Good video.
If I see this performance difference I wonder how Apple would ever be able to base their future Mac on ARM processors?
How did you get the ethernet working?
That's really crazy how far phone soc's have come. The Samsung S20 Ultra has an antutu score of 500,000
600k 865
amd athlon ii x2 250 does not work on any android os. is there a way to run android without error
You can root desktop Android and add a build prop edit to unlock the 60 fps cap
when on the first two minutes of the video you see someone from my country playing with timmy i envy that guy D;
its helpful for users who want to save extra money from buying android tv boxes...just built one yourself with old spare parts from last x86 machine ...cuase i know pc users go through many motherboards and chips and memory upgrades to latest and never had time to do with last gen parts in locked away in storage ...i just build 3 computers ...1 for security sysyem, 2nd for android tv streaming and my 3rd latest hardware configuration is for gaming and everything else under both os windows 10 and manjaro ...so i don't have to sell or throw away unused old parts from 4 year old configurations or 8 year old ones...it just works
This is going to be nothing related to the video but do you know if a gigabyte 880GM motherboard will support a FX 8350? Good video by the way 👍
Dylan Rutland seriously dude!? How useless are you. Here I googled it for you.
www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=3475
@@warmage247 Thanks I guess.
Dylan Rutland 。゜(`Д´)゜。
@@warmage247 Ah
Is there a way to install chrome os? Would make a good htpc
Timmy you absolute mad lad
you the man bro!!
Just a head up....most of those PUBG Mobile players are Bots...which is why you feel like a god when you play. I did (and thought) the same thing, until I was informed that they were mostly bots....lol
Get to bronze 1 or silver and will start seeing real players with a lot of damage
I tryed this a while back after ETA Prime did his first video on it. I had the same issue, wouldn't work for me with a 1050 ti. It would not output video. I made a virtual machine with the ISO to play around with it though. I also don't think it's "emulating" an ARM CPU though, pretty sure it's x86/x64 Linux running a virtual machine of Android possibly because it uses GRUB, etc. I know it's not ARM though because ARM apps don't work on it.
Es ARM modificado
Built in audio probably didn't work due to the Creative sound chip.
did this with an old laptop and it works great suddenly makes a slow old heap a useable bit off hardware again
rawalker666 yeah any old computer you got lying around could be repurposed to be a media, browsing and even gaming computer for android.
It’s good to know.
does it work with gt 9600 1gb ddr3 ?
I tried playing mobile games on my Acer Chromebook that supports Google play store and had similar issues. In pubg some things didn't work so I gave up. On the other hand, some apps like the RUclips music app looks better than it's Android counterpart (in my opinion).
Which GPU are you using??? You never say
I also turned my old i5-2400 computer ( 8Gb ram , and RX460 2Gb ) into a Android PC ! It is a lot of fun !
Good way to safe older PC's !
gertjan van der meij have you tried emulation?
That's awesome!
I think the problem you're having with your sound is is probably trying to out put your sound through your motherboard. If you install Bluetooth audio device or an audio device emulator might work.
a my question is how well can this be used for a home theater setup? Because there's a lot of Android TV boxes out there but they all kind of suck for gaming. The Nvidia Shield TV is the best one that costs over three hundred bucks. Maybe this is something that could be tested on lower end hardware like a what you would find on a $100 Dell optiplex or something. Windows and Mac don't really have a very good TV intuitive interface, I know Android TV is excellent.
can you try this with Ryzen APU?
Or you could try to install the Android SDK and it gives you a sandbox to test apps in
It would be awesome if a full desktop pc powered by a single smartphone battery.
Timmy, you could have used something like Phoenix OS, it supports mouse and keyboard mapping for games
Do an older pc on Android. Do like the minimum specs that will run stuff decently
holy crap he's mad man. Doin all kinda magics.
I find Android-x86 useful as a secondary PC. It interestingly doesn't use traditional emulation. Android-x86 isn't like an emulator like BlueStacks. Almost everything runs natively. When games do include native ARM code, it uses a translator developed by Intel called libhoudini. The translator translates ARM instructions to x86 on the fly, so they seem as if they're running natively, although it still has overhead like an emulator. My biggest issue with this is that it currently does not support any games written for ARMv8-A, only ARMv7-A. A lot of newer Android games like all of Nintendo's games as well as Genshin Impact won't even install since they require more modern ARM support. BlissOS has ARMv8-A support but in my experience it's way too buggy to be practically usable and they have not even released a new "stable" release in years.
Connect speakers or headphones via Bluetooth if your motherboard supports it, and audio will work 🙂
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Someone please reply, Do you think it would be possible to install Android on my PC and then have it display on a phone sized touchscreen display so I could have a very powerful phone? I really like playing cod Mobile and I want to be able to enjoy it at max settings but I don't want to buy a new phone, I already have a good PC though
Bluestacks is a good way of doing this, they adapt the android controls properly to keyboard and mouse
Nah you should just i9 9900k with rtx 2080ti and just absolutely destroy all the benchmarks on mobile when it's all compatible. That be awesome to see.
9900k @5.2 GHZ and 2080 Ti @2250 MHZ
@@Dave-dh7rt exactly XD
I did this few years back on a asus eepc netbook first gen 700mhz it ran faster bet this would work on that too alot things didn't work on it cause it was made for different hardware but it was modded for the eepc
Feel the power...
Meanwhile the phone:why are we still here
Kinda cool, looking at it, looks like a version of Lineage OS
dat build tho last time i tried it was android 4.4 release
Is it my speakers or there's way to much bass in this audio
The benchmarks arent exactly accurate due to the difference In instruction sets with Cisc and risc
Will graphic card function on android x86 without driver installed.(I ask this because HOW THE HELL WE CAN INSTALL .EXE FILE ON ANDROID!😭)
4:50 A KEPLER GPU did not work??! Nvidia Made a Shield Tablet K1, with a Kepler GPU of 192 CUDA cores - and IIRC it runs either Kitkat or Oreo! The only difference is that, IIRC, Tegra Kepler does Tiled Rasterization, whereas normal does not. Maxwell PROBABLY would have worked, same with Pascal!
hahahah i killed him hahahaha ... I hope your neighbors didn't hear you xDD
Great!
If you could do this with a touchdcreen laptop and have the touchscreen work right that would be epic
works great on touch screen laptops
Guys, does ati radeon hd5450 will work?
anyone know if android x86 have a trick to edit gpu frequencys?
It would be interesting to see if someone got Nvidia 10 series card working on android anything older doesn't support recommended optimizations for ARM Mali GPU:s. If you get really bad 3D performance it means that the title is well optimized for ARM GPU:s, and can deliver the whole 140 Gflops of performance out of 1080. I use Linux on my desktop with passively cooled 750 ti, and the experience with downloaded drivers have been far better than with any drivers for Radeon 4670 . And I don't mean performance but video playback, system crashes etc....
Hi there can anyone help i am using a netbook which works realy fast for everything since i intsalled android on it and love it dont miss windows 10 at all, but i cant play even the smallest of games my gpu usage is 0% its using (mesa dri intel hd graphics 500 broxton 2 x 6) can anyone help please
I used to play with android emulators, back when fallout shelter was released on mobile, I wanted to play it on my desktop computer so I installed a android emulator to do so until they released it on steam, I ended up getting that version and stopped playing with android emulators after that
I have nvidia graphics that may be why I couldn’t get it to work
Install it to a VM if you have a decent system
Well you can try some other flavor of Android x86, like Bliss x86, Phoenix OS, Prime OS. And community has solved the hdmi problem. A tutorial on how to install Android x86 in HDMI mode.
10:46 I thought it was a video within a video within a video.
Use app named "octopus" for mapping keyboard and mouse
My and pc does not ru want to boot android x86
By the way the saying Bobs your uncle means it’s very easy
Waoo, and now latest mobile SoC surpasses 1Million points on antutu.
Android is very good if you want get very old PCs/Laptops fit again if they can't handle Win7/8/10 any more. I give the tip to buddys before, because Gaming and using newer Programs on such old Hardware isn't Possible. But as Media PC ok. Android gives you all the Apps you need, also for Office and stuff. And you can Surf in the Internet without fear for Viruses.
im trying to sell my 780 now and its good to see its still popular and i cant sell it for 105 dollars on ebay and im suprised
so what ur saying is an iphone 10s max gets a 3rd the score an i7 7820x does in geekbench a third the perfomance on way less than a third of the power WOWUWEEWA.
If they could release graphic drivers for Android x86, that would seriously be the end of Windows.
I guess my Threadripper finally has a purpose.
pretty cool I just use bluestacks atm
just download bluestacks. simple and runs. just make sure your cpu is set up to run virtulazation. no problems with audio with it.
android muscle have more HP than it need with Biturbos and nitrous