Its not north india in history Its only about delhi We are not taught about kashmir punjab sindh etc which are northwards Southern kingdoms and northeast and bengal all totally ignored
He did talk about vijay nagara,rashtrakuta , Kakatiyas and chalukya and these are southern empire . Yes but he live chola ,chera and Pandya empires,hoysala,satvahana etc but like north south also had multiple dynasties and it is not possible to mention them all for someone who is not from historical background. Abhinav overall is talking about writing history from indian perspective and also argue for including all indian dynasties as well as regional history including south.
@हराहर ईश्वर to be fair dude west indian history particularly of Gujarat is also ignored and when u northies want to push your language and culture on to every one people who speak more ancient language and follow the culture in ancient way than northies also react. Sub nationalism is in north also particularly Punjab and Kashmir and they had adopted violent means south indians never resort to violence. Sub nationalism exist every where in India it exist here in Gujarat also u can't blame only southerns for that.
@हराहर ईश्वर it is not true in Kashmir dude they do deny indian heritage . There is Maratha subnationalism also it was not based on religion there also various tribes in north east who consider them diffrent from India as well as subnationalism also exist in Orissa,bengal and Assam it is not based on religion . And such subnationalism is bound to happen the nation state of india is created by British unlike china no indian empire waz able to unified and uninformed india so there will always be subnationalism
@हराहर ईश्वर there is a reason hindutva thinkers like sarvarkar try to unify hundu socitey because like it or not in medival times before arrival of Islam people don't identify in terms of relegion also as sanatani or hindu they fo identify as shaivaite, vashnavite,shakta etc and had their disagreements . Unlike north were such traditions of sects were destroyed it remained in south do they do say that if mughal empire didn't came and uniformed north india there will be stark relegious and lingual identity in the north will aldo be there. Your problem is u don't like south indians
@हराहर ईश्वर do u even know that all great hindu acharyas shankara,Madhva,ramaanuja,Vallabha and nimbarka came from south . Bhakti movement started in south which rejuvenated hinduism . Before Maratha Empire there was vijayanagra too who act as stalwart of Hinduism band check islamic invasion. U claim that all other subnationalism is fringe but southern is widespread guess what Einstein there are more nationalist people in south than u think fringe elements exist in every region if every Southee think like that they are quite capable of creating their own country. Logically if they did that they will became much more devloped as they have access to ports and they are quite rich and if they want they can also operates insurgency movement like in Sri Lanka. But u never see such acts of terrorism . South is still a part of india before south indian feel proud yo be indians and belive in its cultural Hinduness don't defame all Southies on the basis of some fringe groups.
This monologue is one of the best from your channel. You raised many important points such as lack of emphasis on scientific hard data and archeological evidences and too much importance of narratives. I think another point of history texts (or in general texts of any subject) in schools that I found lacking is the implementation of the text. For example I am from mathematics background. In any school text you can find a load of theories, for example set theory. Students generally mug up axiom and theories of sets , solve some problems and sit in exams. But what I think necessary is to emphasis on the applications of those theorems or motivations behind them. In my school days history texts and the way of history teaching was loaded with dates of events. It used to make me bored because I used to feel it demotivating to mug up a long list of dates which had no use in my life. I think at least the school texts of history should also be emphasized on context that why you should read the text. Looking for your comment on it sir. Thank you
Finally some one spoke about what is needed. Also the education system ignores how these empires ruled, why they ruled, what is the political landscape back then, and yes north east , Kashmir are completely ignored.
Sir you have hit the Bull's eye while talking about writing history. I remember as a student i started reading a book by Romila Thapar , history of india. In her book she mentions that Ramayan happened after Mahabharat, if i am not wrong. I wondered and was so much surprised and disgusted that i left the book and never read it again. Now i can understand that since they have an agenda, they wanted to prove that Aryans migrated to india from the west to east so they tried to prove that Ramayan happened after Mahabharat? And this is the history that was taught to us for years. This is an ample proof of the deep rooted conspiracy against india by these leftist-unliberal, pseudo-intelluctual, colonial historians. Infact they are not historians but only goons whose mentor and master was not other than our beloved चचाजन। Many people can't even believe it.
Good on you for dropping that book. Romila Thapar is the worst historian in the history of India, and the only reason she is relevant is because of Congress and it’s agenda.
@@IdkIdk-dd9go Thanks Just imagine ancient India historian doesn't know sanskrit. Historian for persian and Arabic doesn't know Persian. And these are the people who teach us our history. Just listen to R S Sharmaji. Then only you will know the truth. But these were ignored and sidelined and those with nefarious agendas were promoted.
@@vve2059 which idiot said so???? Mauryas cholas pandyas ahoms sikhs marathas guptas All of them were very powerful kingdoms but none had delhi as their capital Even the britishers shifted to delhi only after revolt in bengal Moreover we find no great buildings whether temples or mosques or kabars in delhi compared to other parts of india It shows that delhi was never so important(it was but not so much) as it seems to be
Ramayana constitutes everyone in india. Tribes, north south east west, south east asia, lanka, Afghanistan, saraswati, indian geography, hinduism everything...
Cheras, cholas, pandiyas, pallavas, vijayanagar.. etc are some of the southern Indian kingdoms, they have huge influence on East Asia and Southeast Asia. One of early navigating civilizations. Kingdoms that influenced Angkor wot and other temples, also played a big role in taking Buddhism to Asia.
Well I are true the great archeological finds we have which is indus valley is under British rule. After that there is no great archeological found on indian history it became more narrative based rather than actual archeological reserch. Also a large part of india which is now in Pakistan is not that much intrested in finding about their pre islamic cultures.
I hope people like Abhinav are incorporated in the experts panel which will hopefully be started by the govt . I hope there are no politicians or beaurocrats in it
"From the perspective of Indians" Such research has not been done till now...only recently Audre Trushke wrote a book about what Indians(especially sanskrit writers) thaught of foreign invaders...and I think you will not like what she has written to be included in history books...I would like to know your opinion
Believe me sir class 12 ncert ancient history you will never understand the timeline it's so confusing .... They wrote it in complex way so that we never understand it
These are the facts and faults of our history, or so called history taught to us on schools, that need to be escarped. You being student of JNU every word matters. Just to lend mistrust in real history, wokes resorted to stone hurling to people those who really want to objectively access it. That's why BJP and especially Narendra Modi is antagonised. But, these wokes who don't know and believe in our basic premise of our existence "Satya Mev Jayate"
Social History is completely ignore in Indian text books, the only form of social history that we are taught is that of the caste system and a single chapter on Bhakti and sufi movement during the medeival era. We know nothing about the various intellectual movements, the development of the various social groups, the history of many of the communities of India, the origin of our rituals, the various hindu philosophies, their essential features, their conflicts and their part in developing society, the tribal cultures, their interaction with non-tribal cultures, how the cultural influence of the past dynasties survive in our society today, etc etc. instead we only read about caste.
Bheels helped maharana. They even were on his emblem. The representation of Schedule tribes among rajput armies was very high. Bheels also helped Sri Ram cross the river and gave protection to them in forest. There has been many schedule caste warriors even during independence struggle who are completely ignored
Guys, this is not such a big issue as people are making. You can't include everything in school text. Neither you have to borrow everything from past. Use your brain, do not hinge so much on identity politics. Ofcourse one should look for different approaches, but the political propaganda riding behind will do no good to common people, mark my words.
@हराहर ईश्वर Bro, u have conveyed clearly. Learn from whomever you want Roman, aztec, inca, Indus, Persian et al no one is stopping you. I am saying politicizing this topic as being done these days is useless. Often past has been eulogised to strengthen a sense of ethno-nationalism and in-turn capture power on those lines.
BC Delhi Sultanate band karo. Mughal history is important, but not all the Hindi-belt history before that. Also, lack of a tradition of academic recording of history in India, makes it hard. Oral traditions and legendary is NOT academically vigorous, sadly. Many records do not survive due to the climate and materials used.
They soooooooooooooo humbly took the name pratihara!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhhh my heart has melted away!!!!!!!No heart remains in my body now!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now i'm heartless!!!!!!!!!!This is the way history should be told!!!In a heart melting manner!!!Not in a heartless manner!!!!!!In a idolizing manner!!!!!!!!So that more idols could be made!!!So that india can idolize more!!!!!Is there anyone who can iidolize better than undians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That's why they are called "THE IDOLATORS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeah Beby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maharaja Ranjit Singh's army conquered Afghanistan. And his bachelor soldiers were ordered to marry, not rape, widows of dead Afghan soldiers - and only one widow per soldier. Until the Taliban rule began in the 1980's, the Sikhs were famous as forex dealers who could calculate currency swaps without calculators. There are, even today, Indian Punjabis with the surname Kandhari (i.e. from Kandahar). Similiar facts re: Indian rule of foreign lands emerge if one travels to Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, Thailand and Myanmar. Alas, these facts rarely feature in history taught in schools today.
@@Naps56 as the host said every minute details of history can not be taught in schools. For example, who raped who, who raped how many, who raped how etc.
@@wahidsebpo8908 OK to teach these facts at (adult) college level ? Because conduct in war reveals differences in Values that opposing cultures are based on. Not teaching history by known facts would be the equivalent of feeding Taqqiya to the Dimmi. PS: use the singular, "detail" , in your sentence, since it begins with a singular, "every" .
@@Naps56 thank you Guruji for correcting me. I confess my English grammar is not very good. But I can see that you are a sucker for every minute detail. So you are going to find devil in the details. But I'm afraid you are not going to find god. p.s I was not taking about adult or child version of history. I was simply saying not all history can be compressed in a curriculum. See, you found devil in my words👿😈
May the algorithm be with you
Its not north india in history
Its only about delhi
We are not taught about kashmir punjab sindh etc which are northwards
Southern kingdoms and northeast and bengal all totally ignored
Exactly. Thanks for pointing it out.
Even you miss the South's Kingdoms, so rich in culture, wealth & history..
He did talk about vijay nagara,rashtrakuta , Kakatiyas and chalukya and these are southern empire .
Yes but he live chola ,chera and Pandya empires,hoysala,satvahana etc but like north south also had multiple dynasties and it is not possible to mention them all for someone who is not from historical background.
Abhinav overall is talking about writing history from indian perspective and also argue for including all indian dynasties as well as regional history including south.
@हराहर ईश्वर to be fair dude west indian history particularly of Gujarat is also ignored and when u northies want to push your language and culture on to every one people who speak more ancient language and follow the culture in ancient way than northies also react.
Sub nationalism is in north also particularly Punjab and Kashmir and they had adopted violent means south indians never resort to violence.
Sub nationalism exist every where in India it exist here in Gujarat also u can't blame only southerns for that.
@हराहर ईश्वर it is not true in Kashmir dude they do deny indian heritage .
There is Maratha subnationalism also it was not based on religion there also various tribes in north east who consider them diffrent from India as well as subnationalism also exist in Orissa,bengal and Assam it is not based on religion .
And such subnationalism is bound to happen the nation state of india is created by British unlike china no indian empire waz able to unified and uninformed india so there will always be subnationalism
@हराहर ईश्वर there is a reason hindutva thinkers like sarvarkar try to unify hundu socitey because like it or not in medival times before arrival of Islam people don't identify in terms of relegion also as sanatani or hindu they fo identify as shaivaite, vashnavite,shakta etc and had their disagreements .
Unlike north were such traditions of sects were destroyed it remained in south do they do say that if mughal empire didn't came and uniformed north india there will be stark relegious and lingual identity in the north will aldo be there.
Your problem is u don't like south indians
@हराहर ईश्वर do u even know that all great hindu acharyas shankara,Madhva,ramaanuja,Vallabha and nimbarka came from south .
Bhakti movement started in south which rejuvenated hinduism .
Before Maratha Empire there was vijayanagra too who act as stalwart of Hinduism band check islamic invasion.
U claim that all other subnationalism is fringe but southern is widespread guess what Einstein there are more nationalist people in south than u think fringe elements exist in every region if every Southee think like that they are quite capable of creating their own country.
Logically if they did that they will became much more devloped as they have access to ports and they are quite rich and if they want they can also operates insurgency movement like in Sri Lanka.
But u never see such acts of terrorism .
South is still a part of india before south indian feel proud yo be indians and belive in its cultural Hinduness don't defame all Southies on the basis of some fringe groups.
Do blogs more often please. Love listening to you.
Well said Abinav, the government can stop losing money through Air India and instead invest that money into Archeology and Research.
Best comment so far. 🙏
This monologue is one of the best from your channel. You raised many important points such as lack of emphasis on scientific hard data and archeological evidences and too much importance of narratives. I think another point of history texts (or in general texts of any subject) in schools that I found lacking is the implementation of the text. For example I am from mathematics background. In any school text you can find a load of theories, for example set theory. Students generally mug up axiom and theories of sets , solve some problems and sit in exams. But what I think necessary is to emphasis on the applications of those theorems or motivations behind them. In my school days history texts and the way of history teaching was loaded with dates of events. It used to make me bored because I used to feel it demotivating to mug up a long list of dates which had no use in my life. I think at least the school texts of history should also be emphasized on context that why you should read the text. Looking for your comment on it sir. Thank you
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I also have read your article in dainik jagaran about this topics
Abhinav your Mike is really good
Finally some one spoke about what is needed. Also the education system ignores how these empires ruled, why they ruled, what is the political landscape back then, and yes north east , Kashmir are completely ignored.
We must also bring in china tibet srilanka and burma and eastern places of world in discussion/history
Abhinav ji please keep on doing more vlogs, love your analysis every time. Crisp and sagacious.
Sir you have hit the Bull's eye while talking about writing history. I remember as a student i started reading a book by Romila Thapar , history of india. In her book she mentions that Ramayan happened after Mahabharat, if i am not wrong. I wondered and was so much surprised and disgusted that i left the book and never read it again. Now i can understand that since they have an agenda, they wanted to prove that Aryans migrated to india from the west to east so they tried to prove that Ramayan happened after Mahabharat?
And this is the history that was taught to us for years. This is an ample proof of the deep rooted conspiracy against india by these leftist-unliberal, pseudo-intelluctual, colonial historians. Infact they are not historians but only goons whose mentor and master was not other than our beloved चचाजन। Many people can't even believe it.
Good on you for dropping that book. Romila Thapar is the worst historian in the history of India, and the only reason she is relevant is because of Congress and it’s agenda.
@@IdkIdk-dd9go Thanks
Just imagine ancient India historian doesn't know sanskrit. Historian for persian and Arabic doesn't know Persian. And these are the people who teach us our history. Just listen to R S Sharmaji. Then only you will know the truth. But these were ignored and sidelined and those with nefarious agendas were promoted.
Sir, just listening to you is an education. Please keep up this work.
Yes you are very right and we must campaign about it and see that a comprehensive committee is formed on the issue and damage to be repaired.
You make good programme ,keep doing it ,younger generation needs it
Yes it’s north heavy
Delhi heavy
Delhi is the most powerful since Mahabharata. I dont see any problem
@@vve2059 which idiot said so????
Mauryas cholas pandyas ahoms sikhs marathas guptas
All of them were very powerful kingdoms but none had delhi as their capital
Even the britishers shifted to delhi only after revolt in bengal
Moreover we find no great buildings whether temples or mosques or kabars in delhi compared to other parts of india
It shows that delhi was never so important(it was but not so much) as it seems to be
Atleast the ahom empire must get its due place in history as it was quite big and strong
excellen explanation and reasoning abhinav . well done 👍👍 totally agreed
Lalitaditya Muktipida
Maharaj Suheldev
King prithu of assam
Ahom dynasty
Namgyal dynasty
General Jorawar singh
Mahadji scindia
Holkars
Ramayana constitutes everyone in india.
Tribes, north south east west, south east asia, lanka, Afghanistan, saraswati, indian geography, hinduism everything...
Cheras, cholas, pandiyas, pallavas, vijayanagar.. etc are some of the southern Indian kingdoms, they have huge influence on East Asia and Southeast Asia. One of early navigating civilizations. Kingdoms that influenced Angkor wot and other temples, also played a big role in taking Buddhism to Asia.
8:00 - No. We don't know. We haven't been taught.
nailed it 👍🏻👍🏻
He always does i think
Really very comprehensive insight.nice.
The reason I am ur big fan👍👍👍
Brilliant, simple pointers for starters...
On point! 🔥🔥🔥
Absolute pleasure to have someone who engages in intellectual intercourse , "History will always glorify the hunter untill the Lion learns to write"
Well I are true the great archeological finds we have which is indus valley is under British rule.
After that there is no great archeological found on indian history it became more narrative based rather than actual archeological reserch.
Also a large part of india which is now in Pakistan is not that much intrested in finding about their pre islamic cultures.
I hope people like Abhinav are incorporated in the experts panel which will hopefully be started by the govt . I hope there are no politicians or beaurocrats in it
Mahabharata and Ramayana must be the basis of our history writing. Mention of Rama is must
"From the perspective of Indians"
Such research has not been done till now...only recently Audre Trushke wrote a book about what Indians(especially sanskrit writers) thaught of foreign invaders...and I think you will not like what she has written to be included in history books...I would like to know your opinion
Right said
Great video
Thanks for this vlog .
Its not north heavy its delhi heavy
Where is punjab sindh kashmir etc
Believe me sir class 12 ncert ancient history you will never understand the timeline it's so confusing ....
They wrote it in complex way so that we never understand it
These are the facts and faults of our history, or so called history taught to us on schools, that need to be escarped. You being student of JNU every word matters. Just to lend mistrust in real history, wokes resorted to stone hurling to people those who really want to objectively access it. That's why BJP and especially Narendra Modi is antagonised. But, these wokes who don't know and believe in our basic premise of our existence "Satya Mev Jayate"
It was grt talk
Agree
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Social History is completely ignore in Indian text books, the only form of social history that we are taught is that of the caste system and a single chapter on Bhakti and sufi movement during the medeival era. We know nothing about the various intellectual movements, the development of the various social groups, the history of many of the communities of India, the origin of our rituals, the various hindu philosophies, their essential features, their conflicts and their part in developing society, the tribal cultures, their interaction with non-tribal cultures, how the cultural influence of the past dynasties survive in our society today, etc etc. instead we only read about caste.
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Problem is we don't understand is it okay to not to learn hindu history but who the hell is karl marx or communist to be learnt
We dont teach about mighty BHEELS
Yes Mewar/Mewat history glorifies them..Maharana pratap was given protection by local bheels
Bheels helped maharana. They even were on his emblem. The representation of Schedule tribes among rajput armies was very high.
Bheels also helped Sri Ram cross the river and gave protection to them in forest.
There has been many schedule caste warriors even during independence struggle who are completely ignored
Guys, this is not such a big issue as people are making. You can't include everything in school text. Neither you have to borrow everything from past. Use your brain, do not hinge so much on identity politics. Ofcourse one should look for different approaches, but the political propaganda riding behind will do no good to common people, mark my words.
@हराहर ईश्वर More recent the history more data we have.
Important for future, How?
@हराहर ईश्वर Bro, u have conveyed clearly. Learn from whomever you want Roman, aztec, inca, Indus, Persian et al no one is stopping you.
I am saying politicizing this topic as being done these days is useless. Often past has been eulogised to strengthen a sense of ethno-nationalism and in-turn capture power on those lines.
@@spatia367 bro history is already politicized in the name of minority appeasement .
Secondly current gov is more pro market than last government.
"Losers never write History"
AMU school of historians are responsible for much of the historical mischief in India.
Abhinav, just based on facts(internationally accepted) found till now what is the age of our civilisation??
Does it look very young??
Nilesh oak has interesting input on this.
Do watch his talk.
Tough are little heavy but amazing insights and interpretation he has
@@usc4405 Nilesh oak is a joke I prefer shrikant talegiri works quite authentic.
Not more than 4000 and they generally exclude Indus valley from current civilization.
7000yrs old
@@smoky3302 give me any link for some study to prove your argument
Otherwise you are just trying to act smart??
BC Delhi Sultanate band karo. Mughal history is important, but not all the Hindi-belt history before that.
Also, lack of a tradition of academic recording of history in India, makes it hard. Oral traditions and legendary is NOT academically vigorous, sadly. Many records do not survive due to the climate and materials used.
#BurnNcertHistoryBooks
Don’t burn books. That’s what Taliban does. Counter with knowledge and intellect.
@@patmclaughlin107 seconded.
I just git a congress UDF add in kerala before the show ... Seems like they are missing their target audience 😂
Six Issues in Writing History not history writing.
They soooooooooooooo humbly took the name pratihara!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhhh my heart has melted away!!!!!!!No heart remains in my body now!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now i'm heartless!!!!!!!!!!This is the way history should be told!!!In a heart melting manner!!!Not in a heartless manner!!!!!!In a idolizing manner!!!!!!!!So that more idols could be made!!!So that india can idolize more!!!!!Is there anyone who can iidolize better than undians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That's why they are called "THE IDOLATORS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeah Beby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ek laat marunga alla ki photo bhi nhi milegi
Maharaja Ranjit Singh's army conquered Afghanistan. And his bachelor soldiers were ordered to marry, not rape, widows of dead Afghan soldiers - and only one widow per soldier. Until the Taliban rule began in the 1980's, the Sikhs were famous as forex dealers who could calculate currency swaps without calculators. There are, even today, Indian Punjabis with the surname Kandhari (i.e. from Kandahar). Similiar facts re: Indian rule of foreign lands emerge if one travels to Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, Thailand and Myanmar. Alas, these facts rarely feature in history taught in schools today.
@@Naps56 as the host said every minute details of history can not be taught in schools. For example, who raped who, who raped how many, who raped how etc.
@@wahidsebpo8908 OK to teach these facts at (adult) college level ? Because conduct in war reveals differences in Values that opposing cultures are based on. Not teaching history by known facts would be the equivalent of feeding Taqqiya to the Dimmi.
PS: use the singular, "detail" , in your sentence, since it begins with a singular, "every" .
@@Naps56 thank you Guruji for correcting me. I confess my English grammar is not very good. But I can see that you are a sucker for every minute detail. So you are going to find devil in the details. But I'm afraid you are not going to find god.
p.s I was not taking about adult or child version of history. I was simply saying not all history can be compressed in a curriculum. See, you found devil in my words👿😈
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