Living in Picton NEW ZEALAND 🇳🇿 is MAGICAL! 🤩 Catching A Ferry To PARADISE | 197 Countries, 3 Kids

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @rhiannonhall7036
    @rhiannonhall7036 3 года назад +23

    That’s my horse :) her name is Bronte and she’s 29 years old. She’s living out her retirement eating apples and carrots

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад +4

      That’s amazing! We’ll have to go back one day to bring her some apples.

  • @leah436
    @leah436 3 года назад +7

    Like you, when I go for a walk near the ocean or in nature here in NZ, I just keep saying "beautiful" and "gorgeous" and "wow" to myself. Even just walking down to my local beach or looking at the ocean from my house in Auckland. It's just so green and beautiful here!

  • @serahnkahukura8433
    @serahnkahukura8433 3 года назад +7

    8:08 We didn't cross oceans on paddled waka, but on Waka Hourua. If you google, you can see some modern ones; they've travelled all through the Pacific and across to the USA.

  • @justsuzy-v3c
    @justsuzy-v3c 11 месяцев назад

    I'm a Kiwi from Blenheim living the last 13 years in Australia, and Picton is part of our playground; countless trips for fishing, fish & chips and ice-cream ... We have just begun talking about moving back and living in the Marlborough Sounds, so have been watching as many vids as possible because we're missing the scenery sooooo much! You have captured the essence of my beautiful country so well, and I love that it's not a quick pic here and there, but you've laboured on some of the most beautiful scenery in the world, well done and thank you! I can't wait to get back and enjoy it all again, but with much more appreciation for what we had and left but never really "saw" it!❤

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  11 месяцев назад

      I bet you’re missing the scenery. It’s spectacular and so unique. We really enjoyed our time in the Picton area too.
      Glad you liked our videos.

  • @davidl9938
    @davidl9938 3 года назад +2

    As an expat Kiwi of 20 years living overseas and currently deciding where in NZ I want to move back to in order to raise my young family, your channel is really helping me out alot. I remember Feb/Mar are the best months to visit NZ due to its weather and I see you really getting lucky with the bluest of the blue skies in Marlborough Sounds and the greenest of the green grass in Picton. Your AirBNB house architecture is fantastic and is something I would like to build as well. Great video's guys and keep up the good work. Looking forward to the rest of your travels to help me shortlist my favourite towns to live.

  • @pinayladyoz8044
    @pinayladyoz8044 3 года назад +2

    I owe how amazing life experiences you are giving to your children. Children who are expose to different culture will grow up more tolerant to others and most of all more creative to life.

  • @markeaston7353
    @markeaston7353 3 года назад +5

    THE most important thing about Picton is that it is the stepping off point for the fabulous Marlborough wine district. No trip to Picton is complete without a visit.

  • @janices6136
    @janices6136 3 года назад +4

    Love Picton, again crossed there from Wellington many times in my life. Didn't get to stay long, but have walked about the town. Love that you are all enjoying it. Kiwi from Virginia

  • @waltpartymiller6802
    @waltpartymiller6802 3 года назад +3

    The last 30 seconds finale vignette with Chloe & Angelique was fun. Your family really knows how to enjoy life. Thanks for the shared joy.

  • @joesixpence3447
    @joesixpence3447 3 года назад +1

    8.50 you are headed to the Grove Track you are definitely entering gods backyard, Queen Charlotte Sounds to your right & further over to Pelorus Sound. Unique.

  • @mervynosborne3696
    @mervynosborne3696 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for putting my town Picton on the map. I hope you's had fun in Picton. And thanks.

  • @harrycurrie9664
    @harrycurrie9664 3 года назад +2

    Another goodie ... beautiful autumn weather, sunny skies, sweet air, great views. perfect. Thanks.🎯

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Beautiful place! We finally made it to Stewart Island. NZ is simply amazing.

    • @harrycurrie9664
      @harrycurrie9664 3 года назад

      @@GrowingUpWithoutBorders You're there now ? so when will we see that video ? it's a long drive from Wellington but obviously worth it, seeing a Kiwi live in nature ( never seen one myself ) .... and I hope you sample plenty of the local fare ... Bluff oysters and Crayfish. 😊👍

  • @debjanidebnath6451
    @debjanidebnath6451 3 года назад +3

    My exam was finished a few days ago. I have been watching a lot of your old videos and it made me a travel lover 😁Just love how you guys perfectly shoot and edit the videos. Also this video is amazing and very scenic ☺☺
    Love you guys from India ❤

  • @rexbrown2988
    @rexbrown2988 2 года назад

    Thanks for showing us around Picton . I have passed through the area several times , going to or coming from the ferry , but have never stopped to admire the place . Some of the best weather in NZ in this region and yes a very pretty little town . Love it

  • @ALxdCr4ftPlays
    @ALxdCr4ftPlays 3 года назад +2

    Nice video. Went to Picton a couple of times when I was a kid for the U16 cross country fun run. Our coach from Wellington was friends with one of the ferry captains and got to go on the bridge and life boat deck. It is a 3 hour trip on the ferry. It only takes 45 mins to fly from Wellington to Auckland and 1 hour 20 mins from Wellington to Queenstown (Airbus A320).

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад +1

      You probably have some great memories of when you were there last. Sounds like your coach had a nice view on deck.

  • @rogerb4436
    @rogerb4436 3 года назад +2

    Love your videos, that little bird on your walk was a Fantail and they always usually come close to you on walks and Possums are a MAJOR pest in New Zealand and can desimate at forest. It you see a big bare batch of dead trees in a forest, that's Possums. Hope you guys enjoy it here.

    • @GingerKiwiDev
      @GingerKiwiDev 3 года назад

      Thanks for mentioning that. :-) There’s a huge grass roots & national effort to eradicate possums and other invasive/introduced predators from NZ to protect native flora and fauna. predatorfreenz.org Expat Kiwi/ dual NZ Canadian citizen in Toronto Canada and taking distance IT grad program at Massey U in NZ. Just discovered your channel via @kiwiamericans Loving your content. :-D Picton was sooo much fun when I was there as a kid.

  • @garth2876
    @garth2876 3 года назад +1

    Just came across your channel, great travel adventures.
    Those little fantail birds like to follow people and they catch all the tiny insects that we disturb while walking along

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад +1

      That’s it! We didn’t know this until not too long ago. We just thought they were friendly birds. 😂😂

  • @MarcelHardingArt
    @MarcelHardingArt 2 года назад +1

    i love picton

  • @derekw.9878
    @derekw.9878 3 года назад +6

    Chloe is now taller than Julia! Binge watching your videos has been taking me around the world.

  • @davidhughes6
    @davidhughes6 2 месяца назад

    What a lovely person you are and your girls are just beautiful and friendly. Justa a wonderful family :)

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  2 месяца назад

      Ah thanks so much! Always nice to get positive uplifting encouragement. 🙏🏻💕🤩😎

  • @johnpaki1534
    @johnpaki1534 3 года назад +1

    Exactly!! Nature restores what life takes from you, if that makes any sense, love who ever does the editing gr8 vlog😎❤️🇳🇿

  • @PaulSmith-bb7lv
    @PaulSmith-bb7lv 5 месяцев назад

    Your family really needs to come back to New Zealand. Chloe will agree.

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  5 месяцев назад

      She's definitely be on board with that. We hear it every single day. No joking.

  • @brianwhite1189
    @brianwhite1189 3 года назад +2

    That was really fun to watch! How did I miss this episode? Such a beautiful area. Viewing from Seattle...still.

  • @grahammewburn
    @grahammewburn 3 года назад +3

    Earthing allows your body to equalise with the planet. If our body has a build up of static electricity going barefoot discharges excess static. Walk barefoot on sand and think about the effect it's having on your well-being.
    Also try hugging a tree you like the look of
    Cheers Gray Australia

  • @belkacemnedjadi3543
    @belkacemnedjadi3543 2 года назад

    Ilove this nice country and wederful people 😊😍💗

  • @bluemoon9766
    @bluemoon9766 3 года назад +2

    We have just left Picton this morning for Havelock. We would have waved and said Hi too as a subscriber🤗. Beautiful place.

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      So cool! Thanks for subscribing! 🙌🤩 We hope you enjoy many more of our videos!

  • @PS-Straya_M8
    @PS-Straya_M8 3 года назад +1

    The little bird is a Fantail, when you walk you disturb the insects which the Fantail then hunts 😁

  • @meg7088
    @meg7088 3 года назад +1

    Hi Patton fams, thanks for sharing, beautiful place Picton and awesome views👌🏾I love the house too 👍🏾 ummm I think the pronunciation is Snout not Snoot 🐽 like big Snout 😁 👍🏾😂

  • @CimuraiSampi
    @CimuraiSampi 3 года назад

    beautiful, wonderful and lovely family you are, what is better than that.

  • @gameingwithabdaal6668
    @gameingwithabdaal6668 3 года назад

    Travel with group,No borders limit,is great way to fulfilled yours Dream,specially for those who are Master mind
    Just love description,of this travel chanel

  • @ABc-ck9xv
    @ABc-ck9xv 3 года назад

    Every thing is worth seeing. My love to all family. I am watching your previous videos too one by one.🤙🏻

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Thank you so much 😀I hope you're enjoying them all!

    • @ABc-ck9xv
      @ABc-ck9xv 3 года назад

      @@GrowingUpWithoutBordersOh yes and “Of course” , I am enjoying all of your videos a lot because all are full of fun and entertainment. You people producing detailed variety of places regularly, giving us opportunity to watch them frequently.
      Truth is , I started taking interest in tourism just after watching your channel. You are my favourites.
      God bless you and family.💕💕

  • @paulellis4014
    @paulellis4014 3 года назад

    A wonderful capture of my home town. I have sent it to all my American friends ! I used to live in NYC but now life in the Queen Charlotte Sound. For obvious reasons.

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Oh wow!! You’re in one of the most beautiful part of NZ in my opinion. Thanks for sharing the video! 🙌🤩

  • @SeaJay_Oceans
    @SeaJay_Oceans Год назад

    No walls, no borders, no nations at all ! - good luck with that.

  • @MelHyde
    @MelHyde 3 года назад +1

    This place looks beautiful...what am I saying NZ is beautiful

  • @roryhebberd9766
    @roryhebberd9766 3 года назад

    Pictons really nice and my family is from there. Mum was born on a whaling station and that beach I used to swim at as a 4 year old.
    Nice convenient 8 hour drive from Dunedin.

  • @kiwi2968
    @kiwi2968 3 года назад +1

    THIS IS THE CUTEST FAMILY🔝🔝👌🏻🤗😊

  • @vjc4964
    @vjc4964 3 года назад

    I’m travelling with you guys 🌏🌎🌍 from🇨🇦🙋‍♀️enjoy every moment in beautiful NZ👍

  • @Andy_M986
    @Andy_M986 3 года назад

    Have you tried the Blue Cod and chips yet?,so good.

  • @warrenkeppler9217
    @warrenkeppler9217 3 года назад

    Amazing house. Dancing in my chair to the soundtrack at 20:00. Looks a lot like Northern California.

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      So glad you joined in on the fun with the dance party. If that’s what Northern California looks like I’m sure we would love it there too.

  • @michaelbarker742
    @michaelbarker742 3 года назад

    The red Ford "car" is a Ford Ranchero. It is kind of a car made to use like a truck, like a Chevy El Camino.

  • @ameenrashid7827
    @ameenrashid7827 3 года назад

    Beautiful views 😘😘😘Mashaallah.. thanks guys

  • @CapitalVideo
    @CapitalVideo 3 года назад +1

    You picked a nice day to go walk about. Check out the Queen Charlotte road to Havelock and then back to Picton via Blenheim as it is a very picturesque trip. I have also met up with Tara, a very interesting lady. If you are interested in the Cook Strait ferries, take a look at ruclips.net/video/F3ggNxRcvm0/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/Ex3P0TiVXls/видео.html.

  • @adamconstanza
    @adamconstanza 3 года назад

    Nice work! Have you visited Timor-Leste yet? I'm from Wellington, NZ, but living in Timor-Leste at the moment. Loved watching this! :)

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Not yet, but it's on our list to visit this year if possible. Do you have any recommendations? It would be great to connect on Instagram @growingupwithoutborders

  • @babarshahnawaz9043
    @babarshahnawaz9043 3 года назад +2

    Julie you looking gorgeous and god bless youy family 🌟💙🌟

  • @paulabain3494
    @paulabain3494 3 года назад

    My home town, was born and went to school in Picton

  • @lynettecook7803
    @lynettecook7803 3 года назад

    It was wonderful to meet you in the Salvation Army shop in Blenheim. I hope you girls have a great camp. Can you tell me again where it is? 😊

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      It was so nice meeting you as well. The girls are at Easter camp up in Fielding. They had a fantastic time! I can't wait to hear all about it.

  • @sunnymilner
    @sunnymilner 3 года назад +1

    " Hi There To The Awesome Five, Otherwise Known As " The Family Living Without Borders! "
    I sincerely hope that you enjoyed your time in Picton, The Gateway To The South Island. We are honoured to have you as guess to our part of the world, and thank you for showing Picton to the rest of the world.
    " God Bless You All, Chantal, Chloe, And The Others whose names I didn't get to know! "

  • @HpArtcraft
    @HpArtcraft 3 года назад +1

    Hi, just wondering how are you allowed in NZ? Or is this filmed before Covid?

  • @ajdesigns6979
    @ajdesigns6979 3 года назад

    they have yummy chicken and chips there with gravy its on the top end of where the shops are check them out if you haven't already :)

  • @bittersweet340
    @bittersweet340 3 года назад

    That bird is called a Fantail/pīwakawaka very cheeky tends to follow you around native to NZ

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад +3

      We know now that they are after the little sand flies and food but it still feels like a big warm welcome when even the birds come up close to say hello. 😍

    • @paulellis4014
      @paulellis4014 3 года назад +1

      @@GrowingUpWithoutBorders they fly around you as when you walk through the bush you active the insects which is food for the fantails

  • @badxerge
    @badxerge 3 года назад

    I had horchata from La Michoacana on friday. :D

  • @babermaqsood8361
    @babermaqsood8361 3 года назад

    Apperantly, the territory is stunning, expat can take much opportunity according to planned whom prepared for visitors. It is expensive from Dunedin, Homilton, plymouth,. But the last thing, this is a really beautiful and 💕 country no doubt, you have generated a great story and facts about NZ. Bye

  • @EagleEyeNZ
    @EagleEyeNZ 3 года назад

    Pleased you enjoyed Picton, close to my NZ home. Did you go to Waikawa and travel around East on Port Underwood Road? Enjoy your travels.

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Yeah we loved it there. We didn’t see Waikawa though. Should we go?

    • @EagleEyeNZ
      @EagleEyeNZ 3 года назад

      @@GrowingUpWithoutBorders Waikawa is where I live and it is very nice. Driving around the coast is very nice and there are many hiking tracks.

  • @paddynoble
    @paddynoble 3 года назад

    That bird is a piwakawaka (Fan Tail) known for its friendliness and ability to bring messages to people walking in the forest. If you get lost it will accompany you and guide you out of the forest and in Maori myth it will be the bearer of news for you.

  • @larryrayner3826
    @larryrayner3826 3 года назад

    The snout track is pronounced the same as a pigs snout, Cheers !

  • @stevie_M
    @stevie_M 3 года назад +1

    A think the bird’s a Fantail.

  • @paramahansayogananda6719
    @paramahansayogananda6719 3 года назад

    Please do videos about west Africa. It’s very hard to find travel videos about those countries.

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад +1

      We still have yet to come to west Africa but when we do we'll certainly create some amazing videos. 🙌

  • @pepta
    @pepta 3 года назад +1

    When was this filmed?

  • @srxanmansuroglu5440
    @srxanmansuroglu5440 3 года назад +2

    Family❤

  • @jswa1225
    @jswa1225 3 года назад

    How many clothes/shoes do you each travel with or do you share a lot?

  • @josesantos3020
    @josesantos3020 3 года назад +1

    Exellent day family 🌻🇧🇷

  • @sajjadail8904
    @sajjadail8904 3 года назад +2

    ❤️

  • @petercunliffe7813
    @petercunliffe7813 3 года назад

    Beautiful family

  • @josesantos3020
    @josesantos3020 3 года назад

    I love you from brasil 🇧🇷💚

  • @princycyprus2239
    @princycyprus2239 2 года назад

    Lovely ❤❤♥️♥️

  • @thrusta100
    @thrusta100 3 года назад

    Hang on , thought you guys had been on Interislander already? Pick a calm day to go lol... 😂👍🤢

  • @davidmorneau9759
    @davidmorneau9759 2 года назад

    Do you ever talk about the temp. in F or should I figure on always having to think, oh yes this is in C.

  • @joannabialek2864
    @joannabialek2864 3 года назад

    What about costs living in such s big apartment?

  • @cvrajendra
    @cvrajendra 3 года назад

    There are so few ppl in NZ... streets are really empty

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад +2

      Yes, the population of PIcton is 4000 people! You'll see a lot more in our Wellington and Auckland videos.

  • @dinethpramuditha2936
    @dinethpramuditha2936 3 года назад

    Math asayi loke wate awidinna eth apita slli nane 😞😞

  • @ezequielcamola9496
    @ezequielcamola9496 3 года назад

    Hello family beautiful 👩‍👧‍👧👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

  • @andrewbolesworth9288
    @andrewbolesworth9288 2 года назад

    OMG, that bird is one of the best in country, the Fantail, they eat minute flying insects. If you walk through any healthy bush (off trail) you will attract them by disturbing things. Which makes them feel friendly as, twittering and fluttering as they follow you .about. 😘 >you're not really my thing, channel wise, I was just checking my 'outsiders' view on 'people who use "America" to refer to 1 or 2 of the countries in North America" and Yea you certainly have done and seem reasonable, TY

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  2 года назад +1

      When we first arrived to NZ we just thought these fantails were friendly birds as New Zealander are. Then someone enlightened us and explained the same thing you mentioned and it all made sense. 😂😂We definitely refer to “America” as the US all the time and more so call the over countries there “The Americas”

  • @depreciated666
    @depreciated666 3 года назад

    What do you do for a living there Haha seems fun

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Aside from our RUclips channel, we manage websites and do online marketing.

    • @depreciated666
      @depreciated666 3 года назад

      @@GrowingUpWithoutBorders I see so your work is virtual?

    • @aqua8833
      @aqua8833 3 года назад

      @@GrowingUpWithoutBorders International Digital Nomads. That is a very good gig. You and your family are very fortunate. Best of success in all your endeavors.👍👍

  • @dannyd3394
    @dannyd3394 3 года назад +1

    How was the horchata? Lol

  • @goneby100
    @goneby100 2 года назад

    Why, the bird,. Fantail, it is, around all of us, where its being, why, as we walk in our being, they fly, to pick up the bugs our motion disturbs.

  • @babarshahnawaz9043
    @babarshahnawaz9043 3 года назад +3

    👻💗👻💗👻💙

  • @deshaunmartin-clarke2699
    @deshaunmartin-clarke2699 2 года назад

    How are you able to afford that?

  • @grahammewburn
    @grahammewburn 3 года назад

    May I suggest you carry
    A personal Epirb
    A cigarette lighter
    Chocolate
    Occasionally people get lost or have an accident.
    An Epirb will notify authorities you need help.
    Hypothermia is life threatening.
    A cigarette lighter will enable you to light a fire for warmth till help arrives.
    Soldiers carry Chocolate. Condensed energy

  • @kiwiphil1963
    @kiwiphil1963 3 года назад

    Its Illegal to fly drones in built up areas in New Zealand.

  • @imtiazaliimtiazali9441
    @imtiazaliimtiazali9441 2 года назад

    Hi friend you very nice julia i m glad

  • @xiaoanlu423
    @xiaoanlu423 2 года назад

    I can see why you give up Canada for New Zealand.

  • @baitedlol6972
    @baitedlol6972 3 года назад

    "We wanted to take the West Coast because everyone says it's a must see but it was raining" Yep that's pretty much the West Coast for you

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Yeah exactly that. We did end up going to the West Coast but we timed it with some nice sunshine. 😉☺️

  • @caitlinroy8678
    @caitlinroy8678 3 года назад

    What age are the girls they are all very tall

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      The girls are now 13, 15 and 17 and Chloe, our youngest, has surpassed all us girls!!

  • @goneby100
    @goneby100 2 года назад

    Aotearoa,

  • @Pete-z6e
    @Pete-z6e 3 года назад

    About time to move on?

  • @ecowavepowerelectricityfro128
    @ecowavepowerelectricityfro128 3 года назад

    Haha :)

  • @goneby100
    @goneby100 Год назад

    ana grasp HUMANITY

  • @kiwihib
    @kiwihib 3 года назад

    Fantails will follow you because you disturb bugs with your walking.

  • @goneby100
    @goneby100 2 года назад

    fANAIL BIRD, FLYING AROUND YOUR DISTURB OF YOUR WALK,THESE BIRDS FLYING AROUND US,EH, CARE THEIR FLITE FOR THE DISTURB OF YOUR FOOT MOVEMENT. kiwi,what shall we do about knowing.catching those flies you disturb as you move. Fantails beuaty.

  • @goneby100
    @goneby100 Год назад

    Am a egit Engel, socialist,.

  • @denisetewhata8867
    @denisetewhata8867 3 года назад

    In Maori beliefs if a fantail flies in your house, its a bad omen, foretelling death,

    • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
      @GrowingUpWithoutBorders  3 года назад

      Oh wow! I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing.

    • @craigwells3655
      @craigwells3655 3 года назад

      They have flown into mine a few times and no one died, so they're welcome anytime.

  • @goneby100
    @goneby100 2 года назад

    Maori, in speak, no ism!S. Being, one, meaning, none of us, meaning, one us, iwi, all of us.

  • @crisyorke1328
    @crisyorke1328 3 года назад +2

    New Zealand is a nice place but I’m afraid politics has poison its appeal to me after the socialist government of New Zealand is contemplating to label Australia, its neighbor as “rogue nation.” I do love the nature I will say.

    • @crisyorke1328
      @crisyorke1328 3 года назад +1

      I’ve noticed that the kids are happy in New Zealand. The quiet and reserved second child is becoming very social while the third child is a little reserved. The oldest kid has the same personality as before. New Zealand does relax the mind

    • @lewtscott3346
      @lewtscott3346 3 года назад +8

      Australia has always been a rouge nation of shackle draggers :p

    • @kathyg224
      @kathyg224 3 года назад +1

      What a load of rubbish!

    • @lewtscott3346
      @lewtscott3346 3 года назад +1

      @@kathyg224 What's a load of rubbish - the fact that Cindy is a Commie, or the fact that Australia is a rouge nation? Both seem to check out.

    • @haydengoodall6767
      @haydengoodall6767 3 года назад

      @@lewtscott3346 which model?, vh, vk, vl, n,, p, s, t, x, y, z or ve, vf. Jacinda doesn't make me think of a commodore. How'sabout a munro?.