Unseen Footage Of The Raptors Desperately Trying To Trade Up For Giannis In The 2013 Draft
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It’s crazy how often Masai is right. The raptors need to keep this man
Milwaukee got him.
He was wrong because he should have offered more.
@@almac9203 you need two people to make a deal. Even if he offered more no guarantee a deal would be made. It just shows Masai was trying to get him from the start.
@@Ims18 he obviously didn't offer enough to make the deal. In hindsight he should have offered more.
@@almac9203 well how much can one really offer for a 12th pick?? Giannis is an MVP but he was nowhere close the player he is today. Masai just has those instincts but he can’t trade everything for a prospect.
When everybody wanted Jalen Suggs, he went with Scottie Barnes who just won the Rookie of the year. Masai's eye for talent is top notch 👏
Bruh people knew he's was taking Barnes
Yall got a shit ton of wings and guards already, Barnes is a position in need
suggs is trash ,
When we drafted Scottie I thought he's gonna be a bust, so glad I was stupid and wrong😂
It’s possible he is just very lucky
He was one of the only guys who physically went to Athens to scout him
So did the Bucks GM
@@giovannicarter3076 thats why he said one of goofy
@@giovannicarter3076 goofy
@@Raidofd goofy
@@giovannicarter3076 goofy
As a Bucks fan, I'm totally happy with the results. Joking aside, I was perplexed when the Bucks took Giannis. Never heard a peep about him. Now my whole family loves him! Giannis met with my son through the Make a Wish program. Gifted him shoes while the Bucks signed my son to a 1 day contract. I owe Giannis, TA, and the while organization the biggest hug an appreciative father can give!
That’s amazing my guy
Amazing
that’s awesome man
That is awesome, I hope your son is doing well
How’s ur son if you don’t mind answering
I actually think Masai is a genius. Trying to draft Giannis when most people thought he was a joke. Trading for Kawhi when most people thought it was a dumb 1 year rental. Drafting Barnes when everyone said Suggs was better.
Drafting Suggs wouldn't make sense since they were intent on keeping VanVleet
The Kawhi trade would've been dumb had they not won a title that year so it was a big risk
@@FreshPrincex4 Raptors werent going anywhere with demar and lowry so even if they didnt win the title it was still a smart risk
@@FreshPrincex4 but they did lol. demar wasnt gonna get it done, sorry demar :/
@@FreshPrincex4 You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Impressive. Idk how many people in the know felt this way, but I can say as a fan he was COMPLETELY off the radar for me that year. I think to have openly wanted to pick this man in the lottery shows greatness in this gm. Wow.
Supposedly the Hawks wanted him. Former Hawks coach and then new Bucks coach Larry Drew was said to have clued the Bucks to him. Also, supposedly the Mavs wanted him but Mark Cuban overruled the front office.
The second I saw him in the skills event at the all star game I knew he was going to be something
I think in like 2015 me and a couple of my friends said Giannis is definitely gonna be one of the top 3 players in the league in the near future possibly even the best, I think many people started to get very high on Giannis starting around 2016 (although, I believe he is not top 3 still right now despite media/mostly fans pushing that narrative) but man were me and and my friends + all the people who predicted Giannis future right.
@@Jordan-pj1nz bruh you a huge casual if you think Giannis ain‘t top 3 rn
@@ezypeazyy calling someone a huge casual doesn’t say anything, the word casual is used by mostly casuals. Large weakness, exploited by every good defensive team we’ve seen before - a simple wall completely limits him a lot, he’s playing on a very well coached and built team specifically for him as well yet (disregarding 2021 where all the good teams got hurt) he’s been exploited by his lack of shooting ability, even right now he’s currently facing with the offensive fouls when he’s matched up isolation against Horford and Grant he’s basically getting clamped.
Derozan, lowry and giannis in the early raptors 😳😳. What could have been, DeRozan would've got that ring like he deserved
we passed on jokic twice sadly
@@cissem4025 Every team except the Nuggets did
🤧
@@regulator9268 Giannis isn't 4 peating
Derozan doesn’t deserve a ring lol
You can tell his heart sank when he said “they are pick giannis”
OKC didn't end up picking Giannis though at 12. they went with Adams instead so he was right. they were trying to get anything before 12 thinking Presti was targetting Giannis.
unfortunately, they couldn't get a deal done for the 14th pick either and the Bucks got him at 15.
Masai is a visionary!!!!
Thats our Boss
In Masai we Trust
Usually I'm on board with whatever masai does. Mastermind.
If he leaves I'm going to be so shook
This is why barns pick was good
@@justkidding3033 Yeah cant wait to see how good he will be nest year
I remember when he traded Derozan and everyone was saying this guy sucks
If you’re wondering who they whould wind up picking, NO ONE. They didn’t have a pick that year. Had to focus on signing and/or trading
What happened tho their picks that year?
@@josevazquez-nh3ep probably traded them
@@josevazquez-nh3ep their first rounder was traded for Kyle Lowry the previous season
Wasn’t this the year that they had to finish bottom 5 to use the pick?
@@parsifalK imagine Kyle, Demar, Gianis 😅
They should’ve been more “desperate.”
Shut up daniel
Won a ring before Giannis
@@TyBrezzy11 Giannis is on the way to his second ring and the Bucks will be Eastern favorites for a decade to come, where the Raptors at?
@@CeIles right behind them
@@maxvdh8 LmFaO not even close LoL. Raps couldn’t even follow up their chip season…FAX
Giannis growing like 3" after draft helped out alot too. He was almost 6'9" on draft day, today hes a legit seven footer with a crazy wingspan.
Putting on all that muscle made him pretty unstoppable too
@@ericsmith3936 giannis was basically KD built wise when he first came lol
Thank god he bulked up
Is europe just the best with Giannis, Jokic and Doncic
@@dragonplayz6606 lol no
None of that would've mattered without his work ethic and coachability. Some guys go clubbing, some put in the work.
Damn, bucks fan coming in peace. That is actually wild how close it was. I heard some stuff about the Hawks being very interested for him. Had no idea about this. Insane how only a few teams just knew. History coulda changed so much. Happy for yall getting that ring tho.
appreciate you, congrats on your ring too, hopefully Giannis wins another this year
Im actually shocked there isn't a video of Sam Hinkie on the sixers doing this. Giannis screamed "process" to me. But no, we passed on Giannis for Michael Carter-Williams ahahaha
Imagine giannis and kawhi on the same team 😳
Danny Ferry put the most work in. Flew Giannis to Atlanta and everything. Just couldn't trade up above the Bucks.
@@RandomZayMK8 Kiwi 🥝 would’ve won another ring if he would’ve stayed with the raptors. He dropped the ball. I’m from Milwaukee and hated him so bad the year he eliminated us
That must suck. To know someone is going to be great, do everything in your power to get them on your team, but simply because of draft seeding, you can only watch them get drafted by another team and then you have to watch them dominate the league
They should've offered multiple future draft picks if they were serious about Giannis
@@StatiCRjm Easy to say that in hindsight. No team would sell their entire future for a pick unless they are 100% sure it will work. Giannis back then was a project with huge upside but he was still very much a boom or bust.
@@thebiglebrowski3695Masai basically said Giannis would be first on their draft board if Giannis was drafted in 2013, 2014, and 2015.
Should’ve offered 3 unprotected picks.
@@AuburnFanSince2010 they'd traded their picks away
No, you suck
Since their inception, the raptors have an amazing track record of picking out top talent in the draft. So many RoYs and big time players drafted by them without even having the first pick. The problem is most never want to stay. Derozen was the only one.
Wtf u talking about, the raptors are good at developing young talent of recent with og, pascal, Fred, and Barnes but Scottie Barnes was the first rookie of the year from Toronto since Vince carter over 20 years ago so I wouldn’t say “ so many “ rookie of the years when they have 2 in the past 25 years. they have made good picks and have a really good for developing prospects.
Huh? Andrea Bargnani anyone...Also, the only high pick that bolted quickly was McGrady after his initial rookie contract. Bosh and Carter signed 4 year extensions and gave them 7 years of their careers.
@@IRequireMedication Yeah, but both quit on the team before leaving
What an old silly narrative. Sorry.
@@2kidsit all players you named are still good wym
Giannis may never have become what we see today if he went down a different path. One key aspect was jason kidd making giannis run point instead of playing like a typical big man, and being patient with him in that role
Acting like the Raptors haven't developed nobodies into starter level players and raw prospects to championship caliber players lol. He would've been just fine
@@JTricksReviews You can develop players in different ways. Kidd saw potential in giannis to be much more than a big man. It's similar to how popovich saw kawhi as much more than a 3 and D guy. Maybe the raptors would never have tried making giannis run point, since he's never done that and it was a struggle at times...but as we see, it paid off big time in the long run
Nah he wouldve
I think Giannis on the Raptors would be someone like Siakam (who's still pretty good) instead of the Giannis we know today. Maybe he'd develop the guard skills later on, maybe not (at the very least he wouldn't get as much reps while Lowry and DeRozan are around).
Honestly it’s all about where you get drafted, what players & staff you got. He went Raps he wouldn’t be who he is today simply because how decent raps were, less opportunities less mistakes. Bucks won 15 games Giannis rookie szn I believe that’s the perfect opportunity for any player w potential because everything on court is unlimited even TOs. A bad team will always find potential, everything about a player is more noticeable.
Long time ago, back in 2013, I won a prize to see the Raptors play their last regular season game in Toronto (against Boston). Courtside seats, two signed jerseys. Bryan Colangelo was still president. I had an opportunity to take photos with him and have a conversation. I asked him if there was anyone the Raptors were looking at in the draft. He responded. They were looking at a Greek player, likely a project, but tremendous potential. The player may be outside our reach. I learned later that player was likely Giannis. Colangelo was demoted that same summer and eventually left the organization of course. That conversation stuck.
I don’t remember asking
@@subswithnovideos-wc6ky cringe
@@subswithnovideos-wc6ky don’t remember laughin 😐
one of the board members of the team openly sharing some intel to a regular fan who just won some courtside seats? sounds kinda sus
Colangelo never mentioned him by name. I just asked if they had their eye on any prospects. He was pretty vague (perhaps intentionally), but I remember “Greek”, and I think “long” came up in the conversation. It didn’t last long. I got a very corporate vibe from him.
This behind the scenes content is better than sports movies
Meanwhile the Cavs were giving themselves high fives for drafting Anthony Bennett 🤦
🤣🤣🤣
Lol Gentry going crazy over pelicans getting #1 in the lottery is still the funniest shit ever
underrated comment…😂😂💯
Please don't remind me 😞😓
@@thereaper5560 Just imagine....Kyrie, Joel Embiid (instead of Wiggins) LBJ and Giannis....😳
I mean if the raptors got him yes we would have developed him but he would’ve been a 3rd option to Derozan and Lowry where as Bucks were rebuilding with no stars and eventually led him to be the star of his team because of the vacant spot of the first option on the bucks
No one's preventing Giannis from being the first option on any team. He's a freak, they'd eventually know to give the keys to him.
@@hoopmania9912 Exactly, most casuals don't understand this. Just like with the Lakers right now, they will eventually give the keys to Talen-Horton Tucker cause he's a special talent, it's inevitable
This is very true, so much so, that Giannis wasn’t even the “future of the franchise.” Jabari Parker was and then they were kind of 1A and 1B with Giannis being the 1B until Jabari tore his ACL and Giannis bust out then they were pretty even maybe Giannis barely 1A and then Jabari tears his ACL again and Giannis really soars and then Jabari leaves for the Bulls and it’s officially Giannis’ team
@@DerekJohn Jabari may have been the future but Giannis started to play better than him even before jabari tore his acl
And he wouldn’t be as good of a slasher as he is today.
Imagine if we had Giannis from the start
I just 🥜 imagining that.
We wouldn't have broke his shooting form.
We wouldn't have been Champions in 2019
@@jacobissac3722 right... you would’ve been champions in 2021
@@SP.007 THIS. imagine a giannis that shot 38% from 3 and 80% from the free throw line. No weaknesses. Just unstoppable everywhere. He'd be nicknamed the greek god.
1:07 8 year old me to my phone after downloading a fake beer drinking app.
I could watch this sort of thing all day. Thanks for the insight!
He said “no problem” after hanging up the phone. But in reality, it was a big peoblem.
Got to keep that poker face. He's still hoping Giannis would fall to their pick.
Remind me again, what was Toronto's pick that year. I can't find any draft picks for 2013 for then
@@person54345 They didn't pick anyone that year. Gave it up for Kyle Lowry.
Crazy to see Giannis journey so far. During his rookie szn ik he was going to be special and have been a fan ever since. He will go down as one of the goats no debate about it.
We need a Netflix documentary of Sam Presti on draft day over the next few years.
The timberwolves did the right thing by trading down from pick #9 and got pick #14 and #21 in a "weak" 2013 draft class. They chose the wrong forward and center with those two picks tho. They picked Shabazz Muhammad (one pick above Giannis) and Gorgui Dieng (a solid center but Gobert was still available). But Gobert and Giannis were very raw tho so I understood the decision not to draft a foreigner. With so many talented international players now, I hope more teams will draft those foreigners
It’s interesting because that has swung in both directions over time. There was also a time in the early 2000s where foreign players were getting drafted way too high repeatedly because of the 90s success of guys like Kukoc and vlade divac
@@alexsmith6322 seeing a lot of the international Europe players have more of a 'loyalty' like giannis, luka and gobert, makes me think it might be easier to build around a european then an american
@@jordythompsontv not a smart take because it’s so anecdotal. What do you say about porzingis then? Foreign players have no more or less loyalty than US guys. Just because Rudy gobert hasn’t changed teams yet doesn’t mean he won’t, and idk why you’re acting like Luka still being on the mavs is somehow “loyalty” when he’s barely even on his second contract and literally couldn’t be playing for any other team right now lol
@@alexsmith6322 was just a thought but cheers for reminding me about the RUclips comments section 😂 but yeah 100% anecdotal was more just a thought because of players getting more and more 'power' in trades loyalty in players may be helpful again
@@alexsmith6322 its because in europe football/soccer is the nr1 sport.we dont get kids drafted into our squads. our clubs go back hundred years and represent the city and state u come from so people support it with alot more pride aswell.unlike these mickey mouse fans in us.
we really support teams and legends are made by topplayers staying and carrying their teams for their entire carreers.
here in europe u wont see any fans switch to rival teams just because of some player.unlike in basketball where many people are fans of players first and teams 2nd
We could have had a dynasty man. Just goes to show how great Masai has been for the Raptors. He deserves a statue
all this shows is how he failed trading up for giannis though
@@itiswhatitis235 It shows that he *tried* to trade for Giannis. When most people didn't think twice about him
@@itiswhatitis235 Yes he didn't get him but this video shows the vision Masai has for certain players and how he sees certain things about players that go under the radar. ie FVV, Siakam.
@@tooforwon241 if he wanted Giannis he could got Giannis he didn't feel he was worth giving up nothing that was good
@@theetruth8626 true. That’s what people are missing. Yeah he thought Giannis was a solid choice and was looking to make a deal…but if WOULD have made a deal if he truly knew how great giannis would become. They had assets that could have made this trade go through but they wanted to get it on the cheap. Smart to look at him when no one else was but he obviously wasn’t super confident in him to give away any valuable pieces
If I ever feel that the raptor are making the wrong decisions, I always goes to this video. Masai has a vision
must have felt great when Toronto pulled the comeback from 0-2 against the Bucks in 2019.
That's why he picked Bruno Caboclo the following year. With his size and length, Bruno looked like the next Giannis Antetokounmpo or Kevin Durant. Too bad didn't worked out for Bruno, but at least we got that "2 Years Away From Being 2 Years Away" phrase.
Atleast now we got Scottie
@@HooliganBMars So happy for Scottie because he's developing himself so quick in to an very spectacular player, his actions is what got him ROY, I can't help but feel extremely happy and proud, he's going to be an all star in his 2nd year, I can see it coming, this is just the beginning of how awesome of an player he's gonna be.
That is one pick we would like to forget.
This guy is a straight genius. Not just because of his vision. But how he plays the game on AND off the court. He chooses his words VERY carefully and he always lets his actions speak over his words. Legend. And btw i just farted
Lmao
😂
LOL why did you have to inform us with that last sentence
@@meatspin. cause it was funny
I hope it wasn't a shart
Its crazy how the algorithm works, this was at 300k views 2 days ago
Giannis would have been a better outside shooter now if Toronto got him. Toronto’s player development team are probably the best in the league. Giannis has a good outside shot back when he was a rookie but sadly Milwaukee failed to develop it and even messed it up.
Doesn’t matter now 🤷🏾♂️
@@abstractjakobe3151 I mean imagine Giannis right now with better shooting technique. He would be unstoppable
@@cuongquoc5877 He just needs an 85% from the free throw line.
Jason Kidd did that, not Milwaukee or the player development team. If the player development team was allowed to develop it, they would have.
@@chriskay1449 Giannis's highest 3 pt% was in his rookie year. His 2nd year was his worst and it has slowly increased since then, but never coming close to his rookie year. His form changed completely in his 2nd year into the awkward shot it is now. The development team absolutely destroyed his shooting, this all happened before Jason Kidd got there.
Considering the Raptors coaching staff aswell you've gotta think that Giannis's progression would have been accelerated by atleast a season. Imagine the 2016 Eastern Conference Finals where the Raptors had a 2017/2018 Giannis aswell
the mavs GM at the time told mark cuban he’d bet his entire career on Giannis. Cuban refused and drafted tyler zeller and immediately traded him to keep cap space open for dwight fruit fly howard.
we got luka so i guess it worked out but man…. a misfire like letting nash walk to sign Erick Dampier.. like refusing to resign brunson for 4y $55M TWICE and watching him walk for NYC…
Made that 4th pick to get Scottie Counted is unbelievable Mr. President, you made him ROY cause of how hard he works, our Coach is not going any where, we will come back better next year, what an steal that is, Malacai is gonna develop a lot stronger and he knows it, let's keep it going, let's go Raptors!
There is obvious bias toward American prospects. It's funny how everyone says Giannis came out of nowhere, but the ones who took the time to actually scout him could see it. Not just the Bucks and the Raptors, the Hawks tried to draft him as well. Maybe no one could have foreseen Giannis would be an all time great, but several people saw the potential.
He is such a quality GM. I wish my Knicks would've made a serious push to get him. I always believe major trades should be pulled off in draft night just sets your organization up nicely.
Masai knows better than to throw his career in the garbage going to the Knicks lol
@@jacquesschrap8932 Rumor was he was seriously considering it because it was a challenge. Dolan refused to give up the draft capital to acquire him.
I'm highly impressed by the intuition! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
thought it was interesting too that the raptors could have had the 12th pick in this draft and got Giannis before milwaukee, but they traded it to houston for lowry the year before. kyle a certified toronto legend though so it works out (sorta)
Raptors lowkey good asf at finding good prospects
1:02 this is the face of a man who knows this young player is gonna cook the league and it's not with his team
Couldn't have tried that hard, the celtics traded into the spot before giannis to get kelly olynyk
🤣
Pretty sure they had an easier time cuz they actually had a first that year.
iirc Toronto didn't cuz if the Lowry trade
He was right about Giannis and was right about Steven Adams being drafted at 12th.
Genius!!
That 12th pick was the Raptor's original pick they sent out to get Kyle Lowry from Houston, and then that pick was part of the package that got Harden to Houston. And Masai almost got it back to draft Giannis.
What an insane journey that would have been lol.
Thats jay-z before he met beyonce
😭😭😭😭
at this point its a tradition to watch this every off season
I know this is about Masai and Giannis...but I also noticed that Bobby Webster introduces himself to Larry T. Also, he knows is draft pick protection rules - the finer details that make a front office effective.
Ujuri is the emotion guy and Bobby is the numbers guy. Good duo.
Ujuri is gm so he's everything. And he is not a emotion guy. Dude looks to the future. If he was a emotion guy he would of kept DeMar DeRozan.
@@justinthealpha6710 he basically just tried to say Bobby is the smart guy in the room. Typical whites.
Masai always had the vision man😨
This guy is amazing. Great vision for players
Masai rocking that chair like it's no one else business.
Giannis wasn't a steal at all. He was a Longshot. He was a 6'7 guard who was slow, couldn't shoot, and skinny. Nobody thought he would do anything. And it took him like 4 years of training to be any good. But all credit to him now he is 7 foot and the best player in the nba in my opinion. I think he passed lebron and Durant.
Well even before the draft it was obvious he had a great feel for the game. You make it sound like he had no basketball skill lol
Agreed! Nobody can predict the future. Giannis is great, but more of that is because of his rapid development, and adding more skills. Nobody on his draft was a star on rookie season. Even MCW on tanking sixers won ROY that year. Giannis became great because he developed to be a great!
They had the 12th pick that year but traded it was already traded for Kyle Lowry
8th pick
@@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 12th
@@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 it was the 12th with Houston cause then Houston gave it to OKC for Harden
@@victordunn20 I see. Thanks for the clarification. My childhood memory was 8th pick initially.
As a Minnesota Timberwolves fan this is so frustrating to watch. The Timberwolves were on record about how all of their main targets in the lottery were off the board by the time they picked (14th). Despite that, they turned down this trade and probably others to draft Shabazz Muhammed...
I get people not thinking Giannis would pan out, but such incompetency from the Wolves back then.
Oh god the pain 😂 at least the future is bright
@@grimeythree4294 ofc towns had a meniscus injury the day you said this... most timberwolves thing ever.
@@WolfMobileDev I single handedly claim responsibility and will be sacrificing myself if we hear he won’t be back for the playoffs at all
nah giannis going to a small franchise like milwaukee was destiny. and he had the heart to stay to win that city a chip. nothin but respect fr.
1:03 wow weird to think Steven Adams was in the same draft as Gianni
That was actually the Raptors pick we traded away in the Lowry trade which ended up in OKC because of the Harden trade
I hope Giannis had watched this. Talk about a team/GM trying to do anything to trade for you and you are not really considered as lottery pick. . Bucks picked them because he fell on their lap. Big difference. If raptors did get him at that time, he would have 2 rings now. '19 and '20 and raptors wouldnt be indebted to Kawhi. Giannis, lowry, derozan,vanvleet, siakam, ibaka, gasol,powell powered team is good enough to win '19 over GSW and '20 over lakers.
Giannis knows how much Toronto wanted him from the beginning. Masai is tight with his family and was instrumental in helping him move to Greece.
you have to consider the fact that Bucks were trash and got a lot of playing time.
@Rico Wright
Careful bro, Youtbue is on a mission to weed out those who aren't nice. Don't get caught in the next ban wave.
@Rico Wright money talks.
@Rico Wright i see you like a big guy with small nuts who will wait for something to happen before commenting. Where is you little shit hiding when giamnis have yet to sign? Now that it's over you act like you know shit. LOL. What is there to learn? It is all about money.
Great footage!
Masai judgement is insane he made the raptors beyond good
Thank God Giannis came to Milwaukee, our city needed a hero desperately
We had AR12
He turned that entire team around. Bucks were arguably the most irrelevant team in the NBA and it never even seemed like the people of Milwaukee cared about that team.
@@Ryan-kj5bq I always skipped those games in mycareer. Utah too 🤣
@@Ryan-kj5bq people cared. It's just band wagoners didn't care
Yaw got a real one . Middleton too.
Get this guy a real rocking chair
As soon as I saw Giannis playing in the first few years, I was telling people about him and how fun he was to watch. Never dreamed he would get to the level he is now
Lowry, DeRozan, and Antetokounmpo is a crazy what if
At least they got to do what they've envisioned then this year. A lineup full of lengthy versatile wing players.
Plus Fred 😂
If Giannis was with Toronto this whole time, he would have a jumper.
how do you know that for sure? Well hes a champion now and he has improved his shooting year in year out since got to the league under the guidance of the Bucks development team so yeah. He lives and breaths the city of Milwaukee.
@@therealpvc2541 Actually it's been the exact opposite haha. I remember his 3pt% being something like 38% when he got into the league and his form has degraded under the Bucks development team.
Watch BBall breakdown's video breaking down how the bucks destroyed Giannis's Jumper. They just taught him wrong. Compare Giannis's shooting development vs Pascal Siakam's and you can see the bucks suck ass at teaching shot mechanics.
Definitely the ⁶ has shottas
@@ijokesolo8260 has still developed into a beast he’s underrated from the middy
Crazy because back in 2014 I played with Giannis in 2k when you can play career mode with actual players , and Gianni’s was like a 63 and I was like this dude going to be a problem because I boosted his stats to 90
What's his stat now lol
Masai definitely can see the future cuz how tf does he allways chooses the right player??
In reality development plays a HUGE part in all of these “Sleeper superstars” it would never work out the exact same. The connection between a player and trainer can unlock potential, environment/city etc. too many factors in what ifs.
You think Giannis wouldn’t of worked his ass off even as a raptor?
@@jorgeluiscorrea992 work doesn’t equal reality. Once again…. VARIABLES! There’s no what if’s that can be defined! Reality is what happened. There’s no way to know what would’ve been. “Reality is reality tho”
@@LowkeyOG03 But you can still make a probable estimate of possible outcomes. I would say, had Giannis been drafted to Toronto instead, it would be probable that he'll develop into similar top tier level player if not better.
@@blue-phoenix115 you can do whatever you'd like. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Still doesn't invalidate what I said... 🤷🏾♂️ #Variables
@@LowkeyOG03 -2
That would be a different Giannis. His development under Kidd that focused on ball handling and playmaking early on is the foundation of what he is today. The Raptors would have put him in the center or power forward position learning skill traditional to those roles.
Ion think that matters with Giannis’s work ethic
But his shooting would be way better.
Giannis would’ve still had the same work ethic & mentality. Also, if they see the guy can potentially become a ball handler, placing him at center or PF would’ve been pointless especially with how the NBA has shifted to position less basketball.
Let’s not let this overshadow John Hammond. The GM that ACTUALLY drafted Giannis at the 15th pick and made history for my city of Milwaukee!! #FEARtheDEER
Nuggets fan here (where Ujiri started as a GM). Losing Ujiri still stings, and I can only feel happy for Toronto fans. By the time Ujiri retires, he goes down as one of the greatest GMs in history.
Love Denver and Jokic! Hope y’all team is healthy next szn
He was a good GM for you guys too, I do wonder where the Nuggets would be if he had stayed after that magical 2013 season.
If he's the guy. You trade the house for him. Don't be stingy.
Where can we watch the entire episode?
tsn today and december 12 on youtube
I read about him on BR before the draft, but the writer wasn't sure how he'd turn out. So when he went that low it wasn't much of a surprise. Maybe he got my attention also because I'm Nigerian.
I think it's crazy that teams were so firm on staying with their pick in what was considered a weak draft class even at the time.
This year looks as weak as 2013, let's see how teams act
Toronto is a beautiful city Giannis
Too late bitch
@@TimothyFitch hahaha you can now let the steam off. Maybe in five years chipless he’ll reconsider
@@georgepalaio3745 I ain’t a bucks fan lmao
@@georgepalaio3745 aged well “f*ck*
I’m a suns fan 😤😔
@@georgepalaio3745 OOF AGED POORLY
Wow this is intense.
Masai is so calm and collected. Love it.
Giannis is the blueprint of the type of guy they like in Toronto. OG Anonouby, Siakam, Chris Boucher
I love Masisi Ujiri this dude has some voodoo powers or something well he is african this men knows how to draft players
Its all good .
We gonna find the next Giannis.
There is no one like him
There is, and we might draft a hall of fame guard with our 4th pick
@@lovleen Maybe you can get kawi back. your team be a title condender if that happens.
@@jeffreybrozek6217 not a raptors fan
@@lovleen we just got scottie barnes the next giannis
I remember being a fan of him when he got drafted just because I liked his name 😂😂
Didnt offer enough. When you want a 1st in same range now for one in 2 years, you got to add more assets.
Kawhi trade alone puts Masai in hof
They won a ring so it all worked out for the best.
The raptors know development. Masai has an awesome eye for talent and for good human beings. That’s a lost art. Look at most of the guys drafted by Toronto. Pascal, OG, Fred, norm,delon, JV, Jacob P, Scottie B, precious, the list goes on and on. Next up? Ulrich chomche. 18 year old centre out of Africa. 6’11” and can do a bit of everything. If he’s there at 31 raps
Take him 100% (2024 draft)
Wish i could load up my game saves from 2k 15-18. I was banking on Giannis becoming a star every Good Morning mode lol
jesus christ who knows if it all ends up the same, but imagine the raptors with giannis... and what if kawhi still goes holy shit
i dont think they would of gotten kawhi if we had giannis because for us to get kawhi we got swept by the cavs in 2018
and hell we got scottie and dudes showing flashes of giannis with a mid range game so far so i think we struck gold this time
raptors in 2021 baby
na he a champ now
Raptors are washed
Nah
😂😂😂😂
I would live a drive to survive type series around the draft
This almost felt like a scene from a movie.
We have our future Giannis in Scottie
@YAHunnaki wow those are your reasons? You just showed how little you know about anything lol
@@neoanderson563 he’s good he’s good asf but he’s not no future Giannis 🤣🤣🤣
@@Poosee_11 You right, Scottie might be even better. He's already had a better rookie and 2nd season than Giannis had. Comparable already close to Giannis' 3rd season 😉
A black man…… soo much respect for him
That dude is amazing.
To think of the fact that other teams past on him and there was a team that Desparate to land him just shows
Good scouting in the Raptors
Do we know what Masai was offering in that trade?
it was reported jv and pick
JV or Terence Ross
lottery pick that is protected but loses more protection after the years and eventually becomes top 1 protected
bro drafted Barnes > Suggs & everyone laughed😂 Roty
but passed on Kuminga, who may be better than both in the end.
doubt it lol but never know
Kuminga isn’t the 2 way player like Barnes is, Scottie has Dpoty potential.
@@ceceroxy2227 not at all bro 😂
@@ignatiuspennyfeatherix4376 Both are the same honestly
mesai is a god at drafting man, he saw something in barnes over suggs too
Derozan at Shooting Guard, Lowry at Point, Kawhi at small Forward, giannis at power forward and pascal at center. That would've crazy cool to have seen (even though kawhi may not have come there if giannis joined in 2013).
You couldn’t get Kawhi if you have Derozan
@@Kalinbuggs How could you not
@@ohioboy1878 because he was traded for kawhi