Not to mention how in the series there's always been eyes in the buildings, even in heaven. There was a cool theory about it but I can't remember who made it
As soon as I watched that scene, I always had the implication that Pentious going to Heaven was almost like a personal middle finger to Adam and Sera in a way. Especially since Pentious arrives not at the gates, but RIGHT in front of the Seraphim.
It's almost like God was going "nah you don't get it" by making sir pentious manifest in heaven right in front of sera and emily instead of outside the pearly gates for Peter to process.
@@Quinton_ovo_ some interpretations of god say he exist outside of time and space meaning for all we know this was 2 seconds for him. I mean even in the bible soon in gods time is 400 years in ours.
Hot take: God is a good guy and he’s actively shitting on Sera by spawning him right infront of her Edit: I’d like to say I’m not calling god a bad guy or anything, in this particular series some people may think he will be one because of the state of heaven in the show
Nah, I don’t think god would say it like “fuck you” more like him saying, “so… remember how my son was all about saving people from sin and bring them back to me?
I also believe that it was because they expect Angel Dust. Sera is horrified and Emily is excited because now there are 2 SOULS who fit the criteria of being redeemed.
Actually not really there is one hidden criteria Angel Dust still lacks And if true will make Charlie's job true hell And it is of self sacrifice Sir pentoius sacrificed his life to try to save those he loved and for self sacrifice actually be worth it, it has to be with the expectation of no reward Meaning that it is most likely even if heaven agrees with Charlie that sinners can be redeemed she won't be able to tell sinners redemption is possible thus she can't market her success yo bring more sinners to seek redemption And also it still doesn't address Hells uprising threat So extermination are still needed to keep population in checkj Even more so with Hells victory will embolden sinners to conflict as Angels are now confirmed to all Hell that they can be killed
@@TimothyDexter247 it is irrelevant how heaven behaved Cuz in the end it doesn't change the fact that Hells population increase to a factor of 10x compared to heaven Extermination were and are still required And in Sera's eyes allowing the 2 or 5 sinner a year Charlie can redeem is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of ppl going to Hell in turn amazing enough power rise up regardless if Exterminations were implemented or not And now with Adam's failure next time it is going to be an all out war with hell defending instead of running And do remember that hell is home of the worst of humanity the Alastor who aside from his charisma was a murderer on life The Vox, the Valentinos, the other Overlords who manipulate and torture other denizen for more power
@@kevinsantos5050 it’s like that one goddamn movie the one with the guy who plays hiccup and some other guys, “this is the end” I think that’s the movie
@@TimothyDexter247 is not about bring hipocrites as the majority of ppl are in hell for very good reason Murderers, drug addits, rpsts, and many others. Yes the cast of lovable characters make us wanting to root for them but remember Angel is still murders, and uses drugs for a very good portion of the series even if she have changed she still have a long way, Husk was an overlord dealing with souls until Alastor came into the picture. And all Hell laughed at Charlie whrn she made her proposal on TV
My theory about God is he's simply an on looker, he knows all and sees all and is simply perfect, however because of that wants everyone to use their own free will to form their decisions. The only thing he directly controls is who goes to heaven or hell. This is why the highest authority Lucifer can get Charlie to speak to is Sera, as God doesn't involve himself in these affairs.
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@@thisaccountisnotinuse Exactly. It adds up though, as Lucifer complicated things. He was prideful and thought he knew better, but he did not know all of what God was planning. Perhaps God would instill free will to the same degree at a later point, we wouldn't know since it was rushed. Plus Lucifer bowing to beings he helped create doesn't exactly sit well for a being of pride. Reason he lets the sinners die, he doesn't care, they're lost causes to him. Jesus had to come in to rectify this, and from there we are left in this hybrid state. The choice is now up to the individual, God will not directly interfere. He will only judge, and let us figure things out little by little.
@@SirLoinOfHamalot but those are just your assumptions. The bible never said nor implied that the Abrahamic god would educate humans. Heck, the Abrahamic god literally forbade Adam and Eve from eating from the tree that would give them knowledge. The Bible never explained why the Abrahamic god did that. He was literally preventing them from using their free will. Lucifer encouraged them to use their free will. The Abrahamic god unfairly punished them for using their free will.
@@psychonaut175to add to that the serpent in the garden was never stated to be satan nor was an angel punished for man's fall. …either that or god punished snakes for the unforgivable sin of being impersonated
I also think this would tie into the theory that God in Hazbin is on a separate plane of existence that prevents him from telling her outright that’s she’s wrong. Which is why Pentious respawned in front of her
It’s not that he ascended it’s he showed up in HER office and not the front gate. Imagine him being the first person to also bypass the gate is amazing
I like the idea of god being an indifferent (or good, depending on how you view them) mainly spiritual being. They created the elder angels and seraphims so they could deal with the more spirital things like judging and rejudging souls, and up till now no sinner whos been killed in an extermination was worthy of being redeemed, so their soul went to the void or got reborn or whatever the shit happens to it. So they were probably really excited when Sir Pentious died
If they died in the extermination they don’t come back. It’s a form of population control and it’s why Lucifer is chill with it (up until the last episode presumably) since it targets the ones who can just keep coming back
Viv has said she’s not comfortable portraying god or Jesus directly but I’m down with the idea that he’s absent but still keeping tabs and thus sent Pentious directly to Sera as a message.
I kinda find it funny the whole idea of “sinners can’t be redeemed” is pretty much the exact opposite of the entire central theme of Christianity which is God sacrificing himself to redeem sinners.
@@thedukeofchutney468yeah but while they alive. Hell is still remain as a punishment for those whi refused to accept the gift of Jesus sacrifice before they die! So idea of redemption in Hell is really questionable in reality
Bro that actually makes sense! I assumed that she looked so horrified was because Charlie was right and so many souls in hell were killed when they could have been redeemed.
Also, we know that when people get to heaven they get to heaven's gates, while sir Pentious was directly transported into the seraphim "headquarters" it's like god wanted to show Sera that Emily and Charlie were right all along
God voiced by Tom Baker: There you go Sera, proof that Sinners can *In Fact* be redeemed. *Now,* lets get started on how you are going to apologise to-my-*Granddaughter.*
I'd love if others tried to paint him as this vengeful, spiteful being of immense power only for him to reveal himself as this wholesome, friendly guy who has a love of life, and wile there's an air of dread when he gets angry or upset, he's ultimately the one who will treat you like you're his best friend.
@@james739123and in the show I feel if u commit a pretty bad sin he’ll personally forgive if u repent to him and actually become a better person (I had to clarify in the show bc I wasn’t trying to tell u to repent)
Yeah, because like the thing is I'm not gonna put the way. I see God into it. Think of the same way, how love craft epic gods. They are beings of such higher levels. They need to make minions or so, then 2 interact with us. So imagine if you're on the point being like.Yes, you know, everything's gonna happen.But at the same time that's like I could do this job and then 5 other jobs.I still will get tired and I want to do other things
@@Kingzcro I'd have it that the reason him and the Archangels weren't around was because after they banished Lucifer and Lilith, ancient entities of primordial chaos were trying to enter creation and destroy everything, resulting in him and the Archangels going out to stop them, leaving Adam and Sera to watch over Heaven, God new what was going on with Hell but because he was trying to prevent the chaos spreading, he couldn't spare his power to stop them, but now that he's coming back, he'll reveal that Charlie's plan was his hope for Sinners all along and wile the Archangels believe in it too, Michael in particular trying to reconnect to Lucifer.
The thing is Viv mentioned god will never show up in the show, but she never stated he doesn't exist in the show so even though we may never see him, he could very well still be pulling the strings of this whole thing
I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks this theory If it's true, then for one, it would make a bit more sense, and for 2, god being an actually good character would be a nice thing, at least for me
I think God is like Lucifer, disenfranchised with his work and just tired of trying to make something good only for it to be spoiled by other people, but now he's having a change of heart after observing his granddaughter and the things she has done to achieve her goal
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The redemption of Sir.Pantious reminded me of a movie that i watched. The movie is acted by a Filipino where a demon was order around by a higher demon. But because of his failure and disobedience. The master abandoned him. But god came and make him ascend to heaven. Even though he was already dead and was a demon. But he did a lot of good and nice thing while being a demon.
She did say that souls have divine judgment done to them but it didn't seem she was the one who does that, so God being the one to do so makes sense! I hope it's true because that'd be awesome
Also Sir Pentious didn’t have to go through the Pearly Gates and was straight ascended right next to Sera and Emily. Seems like divine intervention to me
Theory - You have to square off against Adam and he has to kill you in combat to ascend. Why else would he lead the raids every year but to see who is worthy. And why Pentious ascends after... sticking it to the man.
I'm adding the fact sir pentious just spawned right in their office meaning if charlie was right (which she is) means sinners can spawn anywhere making an uprising easy towards sera's eyes
I mean, Charlie is God’s granddaughter in that universe, and she basically fills the void left by this universe’s lack of Jesus. I don’t get why God would not endorse her actions.
No charlie is Fictional cartoon show character The creator said they won't be adding jesus god for multiple reasons in fictional cartoon show hazbin hotel
I’m pretty sure Jesus exists in that universe because in Helluva Boss, Vivienne’s other show that takes place in the same universe, the main character’s catchphrase is literally “Christ on a stick”
@@awhitefaceindarknessyou true. what I hope to put is god and michael azrael and Raphael and uriel and others that appear hazbin hotel and helluva boss I hope viviziepop buys this designer because they are incredible my god and azrael and michael and gabriel Leonardo
angelic form, many angels state be not afraid when looked upon. There is a video of biblically accurate angels tehy are terrifying ruclips.net/video/cxrNA1c8Zpk/видео.html
one thing i also thought of if this is true than I think Sera might be in the line up to become a fallen angel than Emily, plus in the court for a moment we see Emily raise above Sera and in that moment Emily looked very mature and in a leadership position, almost like hinting she will be the next head Seraphim or she will raise above Sera in some way
When you put it like that, it would also make sense in that scene where Sarah’s eyes reflect the flames of hell- reminds me of that saying eyes are windows to the soul? Her soul will be condemned to hell until she decides to redeem herself if she wants to go back to heaven. Meanwhile as you stated Emily will take her place as the leader.
Honestly this take makes sense and I like the implications. Some stories where Lucifer is a decent person in any way have God be, well, not so great. So the idea he is 100% for the redemption of Sinners and on Charlies side, on LUCIFER'S side, is something I would love to see.
Well it would make sense, if God makes the judgment of souls and we now know that there is a second judgment after a soul died, it would make sense thag God himself sent sir pentious to them, normally a sould would go to the golden gates, so either he could be mad at her or he is surprised himself, either way there js some sort of message being told to Sera. I guess we'll have to find out 😁
I remain convinced that Sir Pentious didn't actually die in the fight. I'm expecting a season 2 flashback to those final moments. He gives the order to fire, the Eggy bois do as they're told, and just before being destroyed, Sir Pentious vanishes in a flash of holy light... Leaving the poor Eggy Bois going "Uhh, Boss?" before they are destroyed by Adam. A sad moment for sure, but it would make sense that he would be pulled out at the last moment after he has proven what kind of soul he chooses to be now. And then of course brought straight to Sera *just* to send her a message about who was right and who was wrong.
Yeah remember, no one sent him to heven, heven didn’t agree to take him, and he’ll thinks he’s dead so that means that either A: there is a mechanism imbedded in heven to Auto move redeamed to heven, or B: god moved him
I kinda do understand why sera Made all of the exterminations because she thinks that hell would overpopulate (which it already did) and then all of the sinners would attack heaven
Honestly I figured her look of horror was because she realised that instead of MURDERING souls, she could have been saving them. She realised she is literally a monster worse than _[Bad 1940s German moustache Man]_ and that she can’t take it back.
Probably could be a way of god telling her that no one gets to decide who gets into heaven. They could be a literal sinner to the core, but with a act of good can be accepted into heaven. Also borderline telling sera that she and every angel in heaven doesn’t get to decide what makes a soul enter heaven
God with his shoe and belt in his hand: Sara Daughter where are wou😊😁. Sarah: All of you and lute run for your life, dad got his weapon out😅💀💀💀. Lute: We ded😂. Me : Die Die Die 😂😂😊
Another theory: What if god actually sent Lucifer down to hell originally to rehabilitate sinners but Sera was the one that discouraged him to do so as we heard from his song"More than Anything" he said he tried rehabilitating sinners but those in heaven stopped him. And maybe god actually put the idea into Charlie's mind to take up the work instead of her dad. And decided to reward her efforts by respawning Sir Pentious into heaven and show Sera that only he can decide who goes up or down
just imagine, God as created and the universe then his childs within this universe. He told them "go enjoy your freedom kids, I'll watch you but I will not interfere". Then he watch all thoses too serious childs let the only one dreaming apart, before sending him to hell and making the worst decisions possible
God is a good guy, but I think he was just pissed at sera for saying “sinners can’t be redeemed” so when he saw that pentious die he was like “finally someone actually trying to better themselves” and just for shits and giggles, he decided to spawn him in front of sera and Emily
I agree with this a thousand percent because we not see God in the show but he's the one pulling the strings he is angry with Sera and will help Charlie and Emily Sera is really in trouble with the most powerful lord inside the show and the real world good is not happy with Sera and Sera is going to be dead at the end of the series
God forgives, they always do. Sera is not bad or evil but she made a mistake which everyone does. She is also aware of the decision she made, due to fear of losing her people and home as Hell's population grows the fear of hell uprising against heaven, she took action. The wrong action indeed but an action none the less. She's one of if not the most closest to God, so it's no surprise God is upset with her. But most likely understood her perspective, so she needs physical proof that she made the wrong choice, while being all smug about it. With the ability to forgive Sera yet still being disappointed, hopefully the proof Sera sees in front of her makes her go through the right steps in correcting her mistake.
I mean, it makes sense. From the trial scene, it's pretty clear that nobody really knows how to get into Heaven. But someone has to be making these decisions. So, who else than God, the literal creator and king of all things. Also, if we're going off the idea that God has a plan for everyone, who's to say he didn't bring Charlie into Lucifer and Lilith's lufe for this express purpose? If he's all-knowing, that means he knows Hell is overcrowded, and he knows how Adam and the seven high angels chose to deal with it. And if he's a merciful god, he probably knows there are better ways to deal with the overcrowding. Hence, Charlie comes along and grows up with this "crazy idea" in her head about redeeming souls. And then it works, and more people get redeemed and go to Heaven, and this fixes the overcrowding issue, and reminds everyone of what the Bible teaches everyone "We're all sinners. But that doesn't mean we can't change."
My theory is that God is a loving grandfather who spoils his only grandchild. He's 100% on board with charlies plans, but he has to be on the neutral side because he knows that something big and important is happening. He hates the exterminations because the sinners were still his children. The seven virtues are also against it, but they were told not to interfere. God is very, very, VERY pissed at sera. And as a funny note, he was always by Charlie during season 1 but only Charlie can see him.
The thing that makes this better is : the first redeemed sinner is a snake (hmmm I wonder what that could be a reference to?) It’s kinda like god flipped off Adam and sera lol :D
If God will ever appear in the series i imagine them being the most chill dude ever. I imagine them saying: "Guys, of course exterminations were a bad idea, i thought we discussed it back in the medieval ages KILLING IS NOT FUN."
I definitely think Sit P’s entrance to heaven was to make a point that Charlie has the right idea and there is a formal way of doing things. I’m sure as more sinners get redeemed, they’ll get a more traditional approach spot to enter heaven. I wouldn’t be surprised if Emily will open up that spot where it’s basically a sudo transition hotel where it’s like “you finally made it but stay here for a few days to adjust and then you can get to your own place” kind of deal as it’ll be crazy if they pop up in the middle of the street
If I had to guess, God sees death as a form of time for judgement. So when one dies they are judged on where they go. When Adam died, despite his flaws he must’ve been good enough at the time to go to Heaven but since he’s so old, he had a lot of time to change over time and got worse considering he’s already in heaven and doesn’t need to worry about how he acts and seeing as how he had no big ambitions like Lucilfer he wasn’t casted down ever. So when one dies in the afterlife they are judged again as long as it’s not by angel weapons I suppose. Considering Pentious didn’t die to Angel weapon but by a random beam of light by Adam, that must’ve been the moment he was judged. Which explains that when a demon died in hell, they just respawn.
My personal theory, and it's kind of a dark theory, but would sit with the show: God has been watching the entire time. He doesn't like to interfere, but he will when needs to. He has been watching ever since the beginning. That means, he has been watching before the exterminations started, during them, after them, everything. God doesn't entirely mind the exterminations. He knows Charlie is correct, and that Hell is there for the souls of sinners and that sinners can learn from their mistakes and be redeemed. Again, I believe God doesn't entirely mind the exterminations. Think about it, they have been going on for who knows exactly how long if he didn't like them, he probably would have stopped them. God has the exterminations as a backup plan. The sinners who want to work on redemption and get into Heaven are able to, but he knows not all sinners will want that. Over time Hell will become overpopulated with these sinners who don't want redemption. Thus the extermination is a backup plan to cull the number of sinners over the years. Personally, I would think God would want there to be more than 1 year between exterminations.
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That actually makes a lot of sense as she is always careful about what she says and looks around like she is being watched
Not to mention the fact that heaven had no idea about the exterminations. Combined with this theory, we can guess God also didnt know.
@@RoxxyFly that's a good point, but at the same time when did he find out?
@@RoxxyFly That makes no sense, if she's constantly looking around like she's being watched god would know
Not to mention how in the series there's always been eyes in the buildings, even in heaven. There was a cool theory about it but I can't remember who made it
@@PDD555 thats tge roo tgeory also i dont remember seeing eyes in heaven 🤨
As soon as I watched that scene, I always had the implication that Pentious going to Heaven was almost like a personal middle finger to Adam and Sera in a way. Especially since Pentious arrives not at the gates, but RIGHT in front of the Seraphim.
😂😂 bruh
Other it could be the gate guy who disagrees with the extermination and sent him to her to shit on her
Saint Peter would NEVER!! 😂 @@ChupaLmfao
That…
Actually makes sense…
@@ErikRePico12 lol
Hey man I’m just saying what someone else said on another vid.
It’s funn af tho
It's almost like God was going "nah you don't get it" by making sir pentious manifest in heaven right in front of sera and emily instead of outside the pearly gates for Peter to process.
That's what I'm hoping for.
Rofl
Holy!!!
Well God is Omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. It’d make sense that he was so done with Sera’s shit he decided to redeem Sir precious
The right name
But why wait so long
He's like "y'know what, i didn't want hell to get redeemed before, but fuck you, everyone is getting redeemed today baby woo!!"
@@Quinton_ovo_ some interpretations of god say he exist outside of time and space meaning for all we know this was 2 seconds for him. I mean even in the bible soon in gods time is 400 years in ours.
@@steveripethefustercluck.Do you mean a second???
Hot take: God is a good guy and he’s actively shitting on Sera by spawning him right infront of her
Edit: I’d like to say I’m not calling god a bad guy or anything, in this particular series some people may think he will be one because of the state of heaven in the show
That would be awesome
Nah, what if God's sorta like lucifer, just like "Sera, you are fucking stupid" I want him to say that😂
"Let's just put Pentious right here!"
"Yeeeaahhh take that, BIETCH..."
"fuck you sera, my granddaughter is right"
🤣🤣🤣🤣 talk about funny I want that to be the case
It also answers why pentious bypassed the gate, Saint Peter and got put in basically amounts to their private residence.
After all God is probably the only person with more authority of where people spawn in heaven since they usually spawn in front of the Gate.
it makes so much sense now why serpentious just spawned right in front of sera it was just a huge fck you from god 💀💀
Nah, I don’t think god would say it like “fuck you” more like him saying, “so… remember how my son was all about saving people from sin and bring them back to me?
Rofl
Lmfao
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I also believe that it was because they expect Angel Dust.
Sera is horrified and Emily is excited because now there are 2 SOULS who fit the criteria of being redeemed.
Actually not really there is one hidden criteria Angel Dust still lacks
And if true will make Charlie's job true hell
And it is of self sacrifice
Sir pentoius sacrificed his life to try to save those he loved and for self sacrifice actually be worth it, it has to be with the expectation of no reward
Meaning that it is most likely even if heaven agrees with Charlie that sinners can be redeemed she won't be able to tell sinners redemption is possible thus she can't market her success yo bring more sinners to seek redemption
And also it still doesn't address Hells uprising threat
So extermination are still needed to keep population in checkj
Even more so with Hells victory will embolden sinners to conflict as Angels are now confirmed to all Hell that they can be killed
@kevinsantos5050 maybe they shouldn't have been hypocrites in the first place, I dunno
@@TimothyDexter247 it is irrelevant how heaven behaved
Cuz in the end it doesn't change the fact that Hells population increase to a factor of 10x compared to heaven
Extermination were and are still required
And in Sera's eyes allowing the 2 or 5 sinner a year Charlie can redeem is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of ppl going to Hell in turn amazing enough power rise up regardless if Exterminations were implemented or not
And now with Adam's failure next time it is going to be an all out war with hell defending instead of running
And do remember that hell is home of the worst of humanity the Alastor who aside from his charisma was a murderer on life
The Vox, the Valentinos, the other Overlords who manipulate and torture other denizen for more power
@@kevinsantos5050 it’s like that one goddamn movie the one with the guy who plays hiccup and some other guys, “this is the end” I think that’s the movie
@@TimothyDexter247 is not about bring hipocrites as the majority of ppl are in hell for very good reason
Murderers, drug addits, rpsts, and many others.
Yes the cast of lovable characters make us wanting to root for them but remember Angel is still murders, and uses drugs for a very good portion of the series even if she have changed she still have a long way, Husk was an overlord dealing with souls until Alastor came into the picture.
And all Hell laughed at Charlie whrn she made her proposal on TV
God really loves his granddaughter and trusted her
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Oh I love this theory. Stick it to Sara, but what if what leads a soul to heaven isn’t heaven or hell it’s a persons own soul and actions?
I think that’s how it works
@@darktheshadowking5012 kinda like Lucifer tv show. A sinners guilt is what keeps them trapped in hell but once they let it go they move on
@@ZephyrBW like Charlie says the first step to redemption is sorry
Well technically it was his soul an actions that got him up to heaven even though he was in hell
dude that is the same way Christianity puts it.
I love how Voidseeker's God has just become the default appearance for God whenever the fandom needs to depict Him.
That would explain why our favorite snake was dropped right where Sera and Emily were.
That’s a pretty good theory.
Is it that "god" of a theory tho?
@@OGRedness212lol
AND THAT'S just a theory
@@Just_The_dumb_ArtistA Hazbin theory
My theory about God is he's simply an on looker, he knows all and sees all and is simply perfect, however because of that wants everyone to use their own free will to form their decisions. The only thing he directly controls is who goes to heaven or hell. This is why the highest authority Lucifer can get Charlie to speak to is Sera, as God doesn't involve himself in these affairs.
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Lucifer was literally the one who gave humans free will, so, that kinda complicates it a lot
@@thisaccountisnotinuse Exactly. It adds up though, as Lucifer complicated things. He was prideful and thought he knew better, but he did not know all of what God was planning. Perhaps God would instill free will to the same degree at a later point, we wouldn't know since it was rushed. Plus Lucifer bowing to beings he helped create doesn't exactly sit well for a being of pride. Reason he lets the sinners die, he doesn't care, they're lost causes to him. Jesus had to come in to rectify this, and from there we are left in this hybrid state. The choice is now up to the individual, God will not directly interfere. He will only judge, and let us figure things out little by little.
@@SirLoinOfHamalot but those are just your assumptions. The bible never said nor implied that the Abrahamic god would educate humans. Heck, the Abrahamic god literally forbade Adam and Eve from eating from the tree that would give them knowledge. The Bible never explained why the Abrahamic god did that. He was literally preventing them from using their free will. Lucifer encouraged them to use their free will. The Abrahamic god unfairly punished them for using their free will.
@@psychonaut175to add to that the serpent in the garden was never stated to be satan nor was an angel punished for man's fall.
…either that or god punished snakes for the unforgivable sin of being impersonated
I also think this would tie into the theory that God in Hazbin is on a separate plane of existence that prevents him from telling her outright that’s she’s wrong. Which is why Pentious respawned in front of her
It’s not that he ascended it’s he showed up in HER office and not the front gate. Imagine him being the first person to also bypass the gate is amazing
I like the idea of god being an indifferent (or good, depending on how you view them) mainly spiritual being. They created the elder angels and seraphims so they could deal with the more spirital things like judging and rejudging souls, and up till now no sinner whos been killed in an extermination was worthy of being redeemed, so their soul went to the void or got reborn or whatever the shit happens to it. So they were probably really excited when Sir Pentious died
If they died in the extermination they don’t come back. It’s a form of population control and it’s why Lucifer is chill with it (up until the last episode presumably) since it targets the ones who can just keep coming back
I wouldn’t be surprised if God agreed with his granddaughter than the high Seraphim
Viv has said she’s not comfortable portraying god or Jesus directly but I’m down with the idea that he’s absent but still keeping tabs and thus sent Pentious directly to Sera as a message.
Sera: Sinners can't be redeemed
God: Bet
EDIT: Holy Lucifer, I did not expect this to blow up
Emily: EEEEEEEE YAYYYYY
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@@marzlikestohSera: oh fu-
I kinda find it funny the whole idea of “sinners can’t be redeemed” is pretty much the exact opposite of the entire central theme of Christianity which is God sacrificing himself to redeem sinners.
@@thedukeofchutney468yeah but while they alive. Hell is still remain as a punishment for those whi refused to accept the gift of Jesus sacrifice before they die! So idea of redemption in Hell is really questionable in reality
What's makes this even worse for Sera is probably the fact God sent Sir Pentious right in front of her 💀
He was practically saying “take that bitch”
Bro that actually makes sense! I assumed that she looked so horrified was because Charlie was right and so many souls in hell were killed when they could have been redeemed.
This is the best theory ever.
Also, we know that when people get to heaven they get to heaven's gates, while sir Pentious was directly transported into the seraphim "headquarters" it's like god wanted to show Sera that Emily and Charlie were right all along
God voiced by Tom Baker: There you go Sera, proof that Sinners can *In Fact* be redeemed. *Now,* lets get started on how you are going to apologise to-my-*Granddaughter.*
Can’t wait for St Peter’s reaction to someone who *bypassed his Gate!*
Id love God to be portrayed just as this guy who tries not to interrupt much with the human realm nor hell instead of just an asshole
I'd love if others tried to paint him as this vengeful, spiteful being of immense power only for him to reveal himself as this wholesome, friendly guy who has a love of life, and wile there's an air of dread when he gets angry or upset, he's ultimately the one who will treat you like you're his best friend.
@@james739123and in the show I feel if u commit a pretty bad sin he’ll personally forgive if u repent to him and actually become a better person (I had to clarify in the show bc I wasn’t trying to tell u to repent)
@@james739123 yeah i would love that
It also probably makes sense for the story, considering the angles started the exterminations, not him
Yeah, because like the thing is I'm not gonna put the way. I see God into it. Think of the same way, how love craft epic gods. They are beings of such higher levels. They need to make minions or so, then 2 interact with us. So imagine if you're on the point being like.Yes, you know, everything's gonna happen.But at the same time that's like I could do this job and then 5 other jobs.I still will get tired and I want to do other things
@@Kingzcro I'd have it that the reason him and the Archangels weren't around was because after they banished Lucifer and Lilith, ancient entities of primordial chaos were trying to enter creation and destroy everything, resulting in him and the Archangels going out to stop them, leaving Adam and Sera to watch over Heaven, God new what was going on with Hell but because he was trying to prevent the chaos spreading, he couldn't spare his power to stop them, but now that he's coming back, he'll reveal that Charlie's plan was his hope for Sinners all along and wile the Archangels believe in it too, Michael in particular trying to reconnect to Lucifer.
God in hazben hotel is a good guy confirmed LETS GO!
The thing is Viv mentioned god will never show up in the show, but she never stated he doesn't exist in the show so even though we may never see him, he could very well still be pulling the strings of this whole thing
She wasn’t scared she was flabbergasted
I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks this theory
If it's true, then for one, it would make a bit more sense, and for 2, god being an actually good character would be a nice thing, at least for me
I think God is like Lucifer, disenfranchised with his work and just tired of trying to make something good only for it to be spoiled by other people, but now he's having a change of heart after observing his granddaughter and the things she has done to achieve her goal
what I hope to put is god and michael azrael and Raphael and uriel and others that appear hazbin hotel and helluva boss I hope viviziepop buys this designer because they are incredible my god and azrael and michael and gabriel Leonardo
@@luisfabiobrito8499 Is it just me or you keep repeating this comment of yours
The redemption of Sir.Pantious reminded me of a movie that i watched. The movie is acted by a Filipino where a demon was order around by a higher demon. But because of his failure and disobedience. The master abandoned him. But god came and make him ascend to heaven. Even though he was already dead and was a demon. But he did a lot of good and nice thing while being a demon.
I always knew Saint Pentious was God's favorite
Her face in the start is wild
Omg finally I wasn’t the only one who interpreted that look as “oh shit dads gonna be so pissed”
She did say that souls have divine judgment done to them but it didn't seem she was the one who does that, so God being the one to do so makes sense! I hope it's true because that'd be awesome
Wow, that's so cool God design😯
Damn... That ain't just a theory, that has to be just straight facts
Also Sir Pentious didn’t have to go through the Pearly Gates and was straight ascended right next to Sera and Emily. Seems like divine intervention to me
Also let’s be honest
If the executioners were ever found out he’d be very angry because it’s his children, killing each other
Theory - You have to square off against Adam and he has to kill you in combat to ascend. Why else would he lead the raids every year but to see who is worthy. And why Pentious ascends after... sticking it to the man.
I'm adding the fact sir pentious just spawned right in their office meaning if charlie was right (which she is) means sinners can spawn anywhere making an uprising easy towards sera's eyes
Make sense. He realy rubbed it in her face tho.
I mean, Charlie is God’s granddaughter in that universe, and she basically fills the void left by this universe’s lack of Jesus. I don’t get why God would not endorse her actions.
No charlie is Fictional cartoon show character
The creator said they won't be adding jesus god for multiple reasons in fictional cartoon show hazbin hotel
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Wow How am I wrong when hazbin hotel it is fictional cartoon show to?
I’m pretty sure Jesus exists in that universe because in Helluva Boss, Vivienne’s other show that takes place in the same universe, the main character’s catchphrase is literally “Christ on a stick”
@@Oreo-kv4gcwe were talking about fictional God as a character in hazbin hotel not the real god you believe...
@@awhitefaceindarknessyou true.
what I hope to put is god and michael azrael and Raphael and uriel and others that appear hazbin hotel and helluva boss I hope viviziepop buys this designer because they are incredible my god and azrael and michael and gabriel Leonardo
Why does sera in the first frame look like a bird💀
angelic form, many angels state be not afraid when looked upon. There is a video of biblically accurate angels tehy are terrifying ruclips.net/video/cxrNA1c8Zpk/видео.html
Now that you mentioned it now I just see a bird instead of Sera
I think it's because she just realized they slaughtered hundreds of souls that could've been redemeed
I always knew in one way shape or form God would intervene about this, even though he isn’t present show wise. This Theory proves it
one thing i also thought of if this is true than I think Sera might be in the line up to become a fallen angel than Emily, plus in the court for a moment we see Emily raise above Sera and in that moment Emily looked very mature and in a leadership position, almost like hinting she will be the next head Seraphim or she will raise above Sera in some way
When you put it like that, it would also make sense in that scene where Sarah’s eyes reflect the flames of hell- reminds me of that saying eyes are windows to the soul? Her soul will be condemned to hell until she decides to redeem herself if she wants to go back to heaven. Meanwhile as you stated Emily will take her place as the leader.
Why did I laugh when he said ”and GAWWD” 💀
Honestly this take makes sense and I like the implications. Some stories where Lucifer is a decent person in any way have God be, well, not so great. So the idea he is 100% for the redemption of Sinners and on Charlies side, on LUCIFER'S side, is something I would love to see.
Well it would make sense, if God makes the judgment of souls and we now know that there is a second judgment after a soul died, it would make sense thag God himself sent sir pentious to them, normally a sould would go to the golden gates, so either he could be mad at her or he is surprised himself, either way there js some sort of message being told to Sera. I guess we'll have to find out 😁
yep god would be the type to support his granddaughter
God remaining sera who’s in charge 24/7
Imagine if Sera tried to make Emily fall but falls instead
I would honestly like to see Vivzie's take on God since her depiction of biblical characters has been pretty entertaining so far!
You didn't care Sera...
Now you're down there, Sera
God: Sera (deep breath) YOU’RE FIRED!!!
I hope God will see Lucifer again and say
“Well, you were right. I’m sorry for what we did to you.”
also when most souls arrive in heaven, they appear before Saint Peter at the gates, except Pen who shows up right in front of Sera
The mighty jimmy does exists in the show!😮
I remain convinced that Sir Pentious didn't actually die in the fight. I'm expecting a season 2 flashback to those final moments. He gives the order to fire, the Eggy bois do as they're told, and just before being destroyed, Sir Pentious vanishes in a flash of holy light... Leaving the poor Eggy Bois going "Uhh, Boss?" before they are destroyed by Adam. A sad moment for sure, but it would make sense that he would be pulled out at the last moment after he has proven what kind of soul he chooses to be now. And then of course brought straight to Sera *just* to send her a message about who was right and who was wrong.
That makes so much sense
One reason why penthouses aperid infront of sera was because he would cause a bit of panic being the first sinner to be redeemed
Yeah remember, no one sent him to heven, heven didn’t agree to take him, and he’ll thinks he’s dead so that means that either
A: there is a mechanism imbedded in heven to Auto move redeamed to heven, or
B: god moved him
There is a cool series on Tiktok about if the Hellaverse had God show up after season 1. It goes along with this theory.
The theory that I’ve seen is that she looks distraught bc she has been killing souls when they could have been redeemed
I’m under the idea that Heaven is screwed up because God is too nice to tell his creations off.
I wanna see sir pentious become his favorite soul lol
Sera: "Sinners can't be redeemed, Emily."
God: "Wanna see something cool?'
YOOOO I literally hd the exact same theory!!! Like it made so much sense!!!
I can see Hazbin hotel making God a chaotic good for order 🤣
I kinda do understand why sera Made all of the exterminations because she thinks that hell would overpopulate (which it already did) and then all of the sinners would attack heaven
Honestly I figured her look of horror was because she realised that instead of MURDERING souls, she could have been saving them.
She realised she is literally a monster worse than _[Bad 1940s German moustache Man]_ and that she can’t take it back.
I hope that is true because I really want god to show himself and be mad at Sera and hope maybe God might be the main antagonist
God being the main antag sounds pretty stupid to me
That sounds like the average redditors wet dream lmao
huh? If he sides with Charlie like this video says, he wouldn't be the main antag
You mean Overarching protagonist(alongside Lucifer).
I like to think that god is a viewer like us, he's just chilling in a pocket dimension watching the show and eating popcorn
Probably could be a way of god telling her that no one gets to decide who gets into heaven. They could be a literal sinner to the core, but with a act of good can be accepted into heaven.
Also borderline telling sera that she and every angel in heaven doesn’t get to decide what makes a soul enter heaven
I’m happy they won’t be making god a secretly evil being!
“Wait- what do you mean this is only a theory?”
God with his shoe and belt in his hand: Sara Daughter where are wou😊😁.
Sarah: All of you and lute run for your life, dad got his weapon out😅💀💀💀.
Lute: We ded😂.
Me : Die Die Die 😂😂😊
Another theory: What if god actually sent Lucifer down to hell originally to rehabilitate sinners but Sera was the one that discouraged him to do so as we heard from his song"More than Anything" he said he tried rehabilitating sinners but those in heaven stopped him. And maybe god actually put the idea into Charlie's mind to take up the work instead of her dad. And decided to reward her efforts by respawning Sir Pentious into heaven and show Sera that only he can decide who goes up or down
Okay. Hear me out, the Reaper decides who goes to heaven or hell.
I think it's better if both God and the Reaper are the one who decides who goes to heaven or hell.
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Why would God even care about the dead? His infatuation is with humans, ignoring angels and demons entirely.
Funny how the serpent was the first one to be redeemed, especially after being killed by adam
just imagine, God as created and the universe then his childs within this universe. He told them "go enjoy your freedom kids, I'll watch you but I will not interfere". Then he watch all thoses too serious childs let the only one dreaming apart, before sending him to hell and making the worst decisions possible
God is a good guy, but I think he was just pissed at sera for saying “sinners can’t be redeemed” so when he saw that pentious die he was like “finally someone actually trying to better themselves” and just for shits and giggles, he decided to spawn him in front of sera and Emily
Bro got the middle finger from God himself 💀
Now that.... That would be funny and cool
I agree with this a thousand percent because we not see God in the show but he's the one pulling the strings he is angry with Sera and will help Charlie and Emily Sera is really in trouble with the most powerful lord inside the show and the real world good is not happy with Sera and Sera is going to be dead at the end of the series
Well I wouldn't say that Sera would be dead per se, but I could totally see her being the next fallen angel by the hands of God himself.
why does that first angle of Sera make her look like kermit😭
She looks more like a bird with 3 eyes and arms are just attached
God forgives, they always do. Sera is not bad or evil but she made a mistake which everyone does. She is also aware of the decision she made, due to fear of losing her people and home as Hell's population grows the fear of hell uprising against heaven, she took action. The wrong action indeed but an action none the less. She's one of if not the most closest to God, so it's no surprise God is upset with her. But most likely understood her perspective, so she needs physical proof that she made the wrong choice, while being all smug about it. With the ability to forgive Sera yet still being disappointed, hopefully the proof Sera sees in front of her makes her go through the right steps in correcting her mistake.
Id love to know the characters official alignments
This explains why Pentious didn't appear near the gates of heaven, but in front of Sera's nose.
I mean, it makes sense. From the trial scene, it's pretty clear that nobody really knows how to get into Heaven. But someone has to be making these decisions. So, who else than God, the literal creator and king of all things.
Also, if we're going off the idea that God has a plan for everyone, who's to say he didn't bring Charlie into Lucifer and Lilith's lufe for this express purpose? If he's all-knowing, that means he knows Hell is overcrowded, and he knows how Adam and the seven high angels chose to deal with it. And if he's a merciful god, he probably knows there are better ways to deal with the overcrowding. Hence, Charlie comes along and grows up with this "crazy idea" in her head about redeeming souls. And then it works, and more people get redeemed and go to Heaven, and this fixes the overcrowding issue, and reminds everyone of what the Bible teaches everyone "We're all sinners. But that doesn't mean we can't change."
My theory is that God is a loving grandfather who spoils his only grandchild. He's 100% on board with charlies plans, but he has to be on the neutral side because he knows that something big and important is happening. He hates the exterminations because the sinners were still his children. The seven virtues are also against it, but they were told not to interfere. God is very, very, VERY pissed at sera. And as a funny note, he was always by Charlie during season 1 but only Charlie can see him.
The thing that makes this better is : the first redeemed sinner is a snake (hmmm I wonder what that could be a reference to?)
It’s kinda like god flipped off Adam and sera lol :D
I like to think this is just God doing one of his other tests to see what Sera will do in a situation like this
If God will ever appear in the series i imagine them being the most chill dude ever. I imagine them saying: "Guys, of course exterminations were a bad idea, i thought we discussed it back in the medieval ages KILLING IS NOT FUN."
I definitely think Sit P’s entrance to heaven was to make a point that Charlie has the right idea and there is a formal way of doing things. I’m sure as more sinners get redeemed, they’ll get a more traditional approach spot to enter heaven. I wouldn’t be surprised if Emily will open up that spot where it’s basically a sudo transition hotel where it’s like “you finally made it but stay here for a few days to adjust and then you can get to your own place” kind of deal as it’ll be crazy if they pop up in the middle of the street
If I had to guess, God sees death as a form of time for judgement. So when one dies they are judged on where they go. When Adam died, despite his flaws he must’ve been good enough at the time to go to Heaven but since he’s so old, he had a lot of time to change over time and got worse considering he’s already in heaven and doesn’t need to worry about how he acts and seeing as how he had no big ambitions like Lucilfer he wasn’t casted down ever. So when one dies in the afterlife they are judged again as long as it’s not by angel weapons I suppose. Considering Pentious didn’t die to Angel weapon but by a random beam of light by Adam, that must’ve been the moment he was judged. Which explains that when a demon died in hell, they just respawn.
My personal theory, and it's kind of a dark theory, but would sit with the show:
God has been watching the entire time. He doesn't like to interfere, but he will when needs to. He has been watching ever since the beginning. That means, he has been watching before the exterminations started, during them, after them, everything. God doesn't entirely mind the exterminations. He knows Charlie is correct, and that Hell is there for the souls of sinners and that sinners can learn from their mistakes and be redeemed.
Again, I believe God doesn't entirely mind the exterminations. Think about it, they have been going on for who knows exactly how long if he didn't like them, he probably would have stopped them. God has the exterminations as a backup plan. The sinners who want to work on redemption and get into Heaven are able to, but he knows not all sinners will want that. Over time Hell will become overpopulated with these sinners who don't want redemption. Thus the extermination is a backup plan to cull the number of sinners over the years. Personally, I would think God would want there to be more than 1 year between exterminations.
Oooor
She is scared because she realized that she was wrong and is responsible for senseless murder
If this is true god is already one of my favorite characters, not my fav fav but still up there