Hundreds of students may not graduate after nursing school debacle

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @WillpowerAviation
    @WillpowerAviation Год назад +77

    Don't be mad at the board. Be mad at the school that is not bringing you up to standards. If yall graduating and yall still got low test scores I don't want you working on any one that is literally dying for a competent health professionals to take care of them.

    • @godswarrior5527
      @godswarrior5527 Год назад +2

      I do understand what your say and agree..in some levels; but with a pause you tell the nurse the doctors the bar and grill the taxi cab you need to see all their credentials and the better had pass all their testing before you go to eat ..get your teeth look at or before you go in the cab...

    • @WillpowerAviation
      @WillpowerAviation Год назад +7

      @@godswarrior5527 you don't ask because you are under the assumption. We assume the pilot, teacher and anyone else that hold a credential to be trained properly. Trained by the institution that train them. Which goes back to this point that you can be mad at the board if they are doing their job in being the gatekeeper. Also the students should have been doing their due diligence. I have no doubt that a lot of them went to this school because they heard it was easy, forsure pass, it's super quick. They played themselves. They all go check the pass fail ratio as well. There are 10 community colleges around the city that have nursing programs and they all want to go these unproven schools because the lack of classes they have to take.

    • @godswarrior5527
      @godswarrior5527 Год назад

      @@WillpowerAviation Well in this case you are absolutely 💯 right...I'm just saying tho...transfer them somewhere else let them do so more classes and training and when they are ready you send them out...but nursing is one like many others you learn by experience along with the knowledge...but you are indeed right.

    • @double_joseph327
      @double_joseph327 Год назад +1

      Don’t talk about what you know nothing about.. there’s a huge conflict of interest. One of the board members was at school that was shut down. The whole thing is shady as can be.

    • @WillpowerAviation
      @WillpowerAviation Год назад +3

      @@double_joseph327 here you go with the conspiracies. What you said doesn't even make sense. Check your English. You sound drunk with your accusations. Prove it then.

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson Год назад +16

    It's time they get their money back!

  • @paulm5458
    @paulm5458 Год назад +44

    Do not go to private schools for medical degrees. Go to state and community colleges. Private schools could cost you 10 times more and you risk the poorly run ones losing their accreditation. This isn’t the first nursing school for this to happen.

    • @okaydude2863
      @okaydude2863 Год назад +1

      My sister in law is a prime example; the nursing school almost lost their accreditation. It was some lutheran school in Austin

    • @queenace2070
      @queenace2070 Год назад

      So true they only want money. No real skills or training are taught.

    • @pinkleather6725
      @pinkleather6725 Год назад +3

      @J 03 lmfao yeah right chamberlain is a money mill charging almost 50 grand for an associate degree 😂

    • @davidwright873
      @davidwright873 Год назад

      ever!!!

    • @staceyrichardson6757
      @staceyrichardson6757 Год назад

      ​@@pinkleather6725Chamberlain doesn't have an ADN program.

  • @faithyoung6010
    @faithyoung6010 Год назад +17

    Having been a nurse for over 20 years and recently obtaining my masters, I would encourage anyone pursuing a degree in nursing to research the school before enrolling. Also realize that this is a very tasking educational track. If it appears too easy to get into. If the courses and assignments aren't challenging. Red flag! You are not being prepared, but scammed.

    • @Maryk412
      @Maryk412 Год назад

      Thank you for taking your time to tell people that. I am someone who is planning on applying for accelerated nursing programs and I will keep what you said in mind.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      I don't understand how these schools can be opened to begin with??

  • @marieb8711
    @marieb8711 Год назад +2

    I dont get it, so much nursing shortage and many states have declined to admit and graduate students who are willing to pursue it.

  • @redwoodtrail
    @redwoodtrail Год назад +19

    It’s not the board. It’s the school, staff and students. How low do you want the bar placed? Were students unaware of how badly the nursing program was prior to admittance? When I looked into programs, I knew the previous years exam rates, professor profiles, etc. I feel bad because some schools seem like such scams but if they’re not prepared or competent, they absolutely should not be able to pass. Negligence waiting to happen.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Trust me, the bar is already low. Many students never even had clinicals during Covid. There aren't any experienced floor nurses left to teach.

  • @juniorlee7084
    @juniorlee7084 Год назад +14

    Nursing is difficult to get in gotta get those scores up

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Many programs are waiting list only. They make money by students failing. High turnover.

  • @alphaomega5909
    @alphaomega5909 Год назад +16

    My Mrs is a retired R.N. In our state she got a PERFECT State Nurses Licensing Exam. Many of her classmates faired poorly. She took a few under her "Wings" n tutored them. To get the Passing Score next time around. But You Do Not just pass a Nurse unless they Can PASS .

    • @alyssadelfarojames3667
      @alyssadelfarojames3667 Год назад +2

      That’s amazing. She sounds like a very sweet person to go out of her way and help her peers. Lots of people wouldn’t think to do that.

    • @alphaomega5909
      @alphaomega5909 Год назад +1

      @@alyssadelfarojames3667 Thank you. I'll tell her of your compliment. We're long retired now. But she figured out that many people don't "Test" well either. Or "learn" the same as everyone else. She as a Nurse, a Wife, a Mother, Friend has a "GIFT". Tough sort of but she will stand by someone she believes in to n help them.

    • @dawnjasionowski5657
      @dawnjasionowski5657 Год назад +2

      I don't know what the exam was like when your wife took it, but when I take the NCLEX in the fall, it will be a pass/fail, and we won't get an exact score.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Passing at your school and passing the NCLEX are two completely different things.

    • @alphaomega5909
      @alphaomega5909 Год назад

      @@dawnjasionowski5657 Look ,,I stated she's retired, lol. The State of Michigan where we're at DID give exact scores when she passed 100%. I'm not up on today's rules. Bottomline, she was a Brilliant RN. Highly regarded by fellow Nurses n most importantly the 100s of young interns,residents n full physicians she dealt with for over 30 yes.

  • @BritBelle89
    @BritBelle89 Год назад +18

    I am a graduate of Aspen working as an RN. Actually just got a promotion to charge. I graduated prior to any of this occurring. I passed my nclex first try and graduated with honors?! I dk This is insane to not allow these people to graduate!!?!?!???! How devastating!!!! Nursing school is hard enough?!?!? I feel awful for all that have to deal with this added be just because Aspen couldn’t tel that their program wasn’t doing well for its students. Ughhh totally sucks! I’m so sorry!

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад +1

      I agree. If you're already enrolled, pass your courses and can pass the NCLEX, you should be licensed.

    • @lestherruiz
      @lestherruiz Год назад +1

      Crazy thing is this will cast a shadow on your ability and credentials even if you graduated before.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад +1

      @@lestherruiz What the general public doesn't realize is, many nurses take 2-3 times to pass the NCLEX. They still get hired. There is no "cast shadow" as long as you can prove yourself on the job. The bar is currently low since we have a HUGE shortage of nurses willing to work in dangerous conditions. Many are leaving the bedside to work in urgent cares and clinics.

    • @nwdurance
      @nwdurance Год назад

      Unfortunately, any student must look at whether their nursing or med or PT or any healthcare education program is accredited. Some programs will exist to grab students money & leave students without a degree recognized by a clinical board for practice. This is way all nurses etc are now required to submit their college transcripts in addition to the license.

    • @Benito722
      @Benito722 Год назад +1

      It took my wife 3x to pass the nclex and she is a charge.

  • @paulawoods6047
    @paulawoods6047 Год назад +14

    Those that started the school before the school lost their accreditation, should be able to test. They ( state board) should have a cut off date of acceptance. Have faith fellow Nurses, all will be well.

  • @ll3328
    @ll3328 Год назад +4

    A nurse for 15 years...the nclex has nothing to do with gauging wether you will be a good nurse. I wish they would get rid of the pointless test and instead a mandatory 1 year first year nurse job. 6 months in a hospital and 6 months in ltc.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      AGREED! Prove yourself on the job!

  • @stephanieswalwell8234
    @stephanieswalwell8234 Год назад +4

    A school has to provide information on the certification of their program. This is a risk when a program is provisionally accredited. The SBON concern is never for the rights or feelings of the nurses. It is strictly public safety. Untrained, undertrained, or under educated graduates are a public safety risk.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      True, but the reality is, nurses report safety incidents daily that are NEVER ADDRESSED. All new nurses enter the profession "undertrained" and the experienced floor nurses (their preceptors) have fled. Most units are understaffed and unsafe. There are likely some great potential nurses at Aspen. If they can get themselves up to speed, give them the chance to take the exam and prove themselves.

  • @urstrulii5932
    @urstrulii5932 Год назад +3

    As a Registered Nurse soon to be Practioner. I wholeheartedly agree with the BON. This field is in serious need of competent nurses and if schools aren't giving the proper educational the patients and peers will suffer.

    • @cynthiabradford3432
      @cynthiabradford3432 Год назад +1

      They are suffering.

    • @urstrulii5932
      @urstrulii5932 Год назад

      @@cynthiabradford3432 yes mam! And these schools attempting to graduate nurses without the essential skills required will not be in our best interest. Not to mention, the fraudulent degrees and fraud nurses out here due to the scandals going on......no thank you

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Very true, but the good nurses are leaving the bedside d/t dangerous conditions. Since these companies aren't willing to provide adequate staffing ratios, what do you suggest?

  • @ernieRUOK
    @ernieRUOK Год назад +3

    I’m getting close to finishing my accelerated BSN. When going with a private school you need to do your homework. I picked one that was fully accredited and had a good passing rate. All of this is easily accessible if they hide it you better run.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Completing an accelerated BSN doesn't make you a better nurse. Floor experience does.

  • @user-zs9ek1bx5z
    @user-zs9ek1bx5z Год назад +2

    >>> Healthcare fields = Safety of clients/patients is the most priority...

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Tell that to the health care companies. $$ is priority.

  • @mynewmelizziem9030
    @mynewmelizziem9030 Год назад +3

    If we start digging how nursing schools operate it’s crazy and how this could happen- but then again there’s a shortage

  • @tonytrott6318
    @tonytrott6318 Год назад +1

    what the students do is sue Aspen for failing to provide the quality of teaching required. Make the Aspen management personally financially liable.

  • @pepitobenegas
    @pepitobenegas Год назад +1

    My nursing school was awful and the education I had was pathetic!

  • @kevinkatz7027
    @kevinkatz7027 Год назад +1

    Seems to me the fix for this issue would be the students bringing their test scores up.. Seems to many just want to go through the motions with a promise of a degree - it doesn't and shouldn't work that way...

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Are they being allowed to retest and bring up their scores?

  • @pinkleather6725
    @pinkleather6725 Год назад +1

    Is the bsn program still available ? So it's not just Florida eventually all these private schools will be under hot water

    • @stephmiller1
      @stephmiller1 Год назад

      It has to do with the state boards wanting more control and the state education wanting control.

  • @brittenyevans1101
    @brittenyevans1101 Год назад

    Can they switch to a medical billing and coding program?

  • @mavismeredith
    @mavismeredith Год назад

    Does this affect the DNP program

  • @doctor_feel_good_rx7467
    @doctor_feel_good_rx7467 Год назад

    The school (if they had it at all), likely, will loose accreditation. If so, I believe the Veteran's administration and military have taken the position that no graduate of an unaccredited school will be eligible for employment/service in any of there settings. This may also be true of other agencies. The Board of Nursing, has many indices in prudently making their decision (including NCLEX pass rate metrics). To the politicians and others: Be more informed and think carefully whether you would want potentially ill-prepared and unsafe graduates taking care of you or yours.

  • @off-brand_is_fine209
    @off-brand_is_fine209 Год назад

    I feel badly for the students, but these are HUGE red flags for a school -- the board is designed to work this way. They should know that alone -- "wow our school is failing! That's really concerning! What aren't we learning compared to our peers" School should be obligated to pay those students back and I do hope they find a way to further validate their skills and safety, but not without some degree of assessment before the NCLEX and going to the field.

  • @jerbrpn
    @jerbrpn Год назад

    This seems appropriate. If students aren't progressing and testing adequately enough, that should be well within reason to shut down the program. Noone wants students with poor knowledge to be working on people. As a nurse, this is a safety concern.

  • @rice15Life
    @rice15Life Год назад

    Shut it down....

  • @cynthiarowley719
    @cynthiarowley719 Год назад +1

    This happened with hairdresser schools. People get robbed. Is it a fake school?

  • @cynthiabradford3432
    @cynthiabradford3432 Год назад

    I have worked in nursing for over 23 years age 61, I have worked with two many untrained nurses right out of college, can't even due a simple cpr. Can't use a simple hoyler machine. can't see a simple change of condition. A person is dieing by feet turning green lines. But the nurse is saying. No. I'm tired of untrained unqualified new nurses who bully the experience c.n.a. (worked as a medical assistant kaiser hospital, (vocational nursing, ) c.n.a. acute care nursing Salem General Hospital. d,c. catheter, d,c. I,v. Blood sugar by meters, ect. To many untrained on the job can't tell them nothing nurses. Cynthie the ne-gie ( ne-gro Indian)

  • @loriek9736
    @loriek9736 Год назад

    It could be low standards of the school..or it could be the students are not passing their studies to the standard they are required. It's a shame and some reimbursement will help. Is this aspen school a vocational school? Or a university/college. If its vocational..i know in ct we have to have a fund if we ever closed..we take the money and give it back. Sad story. Feel bad for them

    • @RealMexFoodShouldntGiveUDrrhea
      @RealMexFoodShouldntGiveUDrrhea Год назад +1

      Yeah, it sucks for the students who are actually trying hard to get through school and getting good grades

    • @TheEagel123
      @TheEagel123 Год назад

      ​@Real Mexican Food Shouldn't Give You Diarrhea well the point in losing the accreditation is that even those with good grades don't matter. They look at the NCLEX pass rate as well as the students' grades. It doesn't matter if they "do good" in school if they're not apssomg the NCLEX, because that means they're not properly preparing students and their tests are too easy and not up to the standard of the NCLEX and therefore not preparing students, thus they lose accreditation. You can argue "but what about the students with good grades" but a student with "good" grades at this school might be well below average if they were to say transfer to another nursing program; it's all relative. That's why the Florida schools in the recent license scandal lost their accreditation, they were essentially degree mills and they lost accreditation because their NCLEX pass rates were so low, which demonstrated their programs weren't up to par.

  • @bongbongtravels6108
    @bongbongtravels6108 Год назад

    You can always transfer at Trump University.

  • @lfw641
    @lfw641 Год назад

    Expects consideration even though they're substandard, sounds like America.

  • @turk3088
    @turk3088 5 месяцев назад

    Pay your loans off don’t be a burden on the ppl

  • @faustinabeninato948
    @faustinabeninato948 Год назад +3

    I have never heard of Aspen University. Was it low tuition costs that attracted these students? How effective will these students be in a medical setting? Never cut corners when it comes to the proper schooling.

    • @pinkleather6725
      @pinkleather6725 Год назад

      U must live under a rock its pretty much a school that has many campuses in many states

    • @RealMexFoodShouldntGiveUDrrhea
      @RealMexFoodShouldntGiveUDrrhea Год назад +3

      Average cost is 14k doesn’t sound too cheap

    • @stephanieswalwell8234
      @stephanieswalwell8234 Год назад

      Definitely not low cost, when I looked into their DNP it was speed and convenience that was promoted. Hoping it isn't the same for RN.

  • @shuffleaccount1985
    @shuffleaccount1985 Год назад

    if these Nurses are NOT smart enough to be Nurses than they should NOT graduate

  • @TV-mm8re
    @TV-mm8re Год назад

    If they can't pass the exams they definitely don't need to become working nurses...

  • @Seers2you24
    @Seers2you24 Год назад

    Retire nurse here, good. It's a public danger and safety issue. Get over it and go to accredited programs.

  • @moltenmagmalava3737
    @moltenmagmalava3737 Год назад

    They had to know this was not right! Nursing school was so hard. They are not almost there! They can review the programs and see the deficiency. Why are they going to these high prices private crappy schools

  • @bneyez
    @bneyez Год назад +2

    Should have went to GCU lol

  • @Benito722
    @Benito722 Год назад

    So they knew the school was under review but decided to stick with it in hopes it would just work itself out. Congratulations you played yourself👏🏽

  • @philliesblunt247
    @philliesblunt247 Год назад

    Blooms taxonomy, u should be able to check off those sections for each subject. 😊

  • @LostintheHate
    @LostintheHate Год назад

    Lol that’s a dangerous and volatile situation

  • @philliesblunt247
    @philliesblunt247 Год назад

    Ummm test scores, they don't lie.

  • @Benito722
    @Benito722 Год назад

    Kind of off subject but I say this to people a lot. If you’re able to study in the Philippines. Same course and it transfers to USA no problem. It’s way cheaper too. I know this is isn’t for everyone but I’m saying. If you can do it look into it.

  • @wtxohnthao2612
    @wtxohnthao2612 Год назад +2

    Well during the pandemic, we saw plenty of nurses across social media dancing with the dead while sick people watched and waited. Yeah, most nurses are not up to standards. The pandemic proved how irrelevant the cries of nurses pretending they are overwhelmed.

  • @krisbecker8392
    @krisbecker8392 Год назад +1

    All nurses need to meet the same standard to be a RN. As a nurse, these nurses will not be prepared to enter the high speed nursing world. Sorry this has happened- I’m sure their credits can be accepted at other schools

    • @double_joseph327
      @double_joseph327 Год назад +7

      What are you saying? My wife is a CNA and goes to aspen. She is an honors student. High grades. She does clinicals, she is consistently busy while working at a hospital. Employee of the month. IMO she has more experience then nurses who just graduate with no field experience. She already has a nursing job with her hospital lined up. Yet they will tell her she can’t graduate??? Complete waste of time? Yikes.

    • @mynewmelizziem9030
      @mynewmelizziem9030 Год назад +1

      I don’t think no other place will honor the nursing credits you have taken 🥺 every institution would make you start all over again

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад +1

      I have news for you... most new grads are not prepared to enter the high speed nursing world. That's why they leave the floors in 6-12 months.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      @@double_joseph327 If your wife is working as a CNA, she is most likely way more prepared than most university grads who never worked in a hospital.

  • @TAMMYVANCE205
    @TAMMYVANCE205 Год назад +2

    WE ALREADY ARE ENTERING A NEW GENERATION LEVEL WHERE IN THE FUTURE SHORTAGE OF NURSES CAN SERIOUSLY HAPPEN. THE SIGNS ARE ALL THERE. LOOK HOW NURSE SHORTAGES IS STARTING TO SLOWLY SPREAD NOW THREW THE UNITED STATES! SAVE THE FUTURE BY SAVING NURSING PROGRAMS! FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THE ROAD WILL RELAY ON NURSES AND THEIR WISDOM!
    205 N.M.M.ILLINOIS

  • @StudentNurseMomFiance
    @StudentNurseMomFiance Год назад

    I’m sorry. But if y’all aren’t doing well on y’all exams … then quite frankly .. I don’t trust you as a nurse.
    And I’m a nursing student saying this.

  • @queenace2070
    @queenace2070 Год назад +2

    Somebody could get hurt please don’t release these people into hospitals or the medical field

    • @stephmiller1
      @stephmiller1 Год назад

      You don't know if they would do that. There are many doctors who graduated that are incompetent too. How about all those foreign trained doctors who come to the USA whose training is totally different then ours.

    • @pepitobenegas
      @pepitobenegas Год назад +1

      @@stephmiller1 most often they are better than the ones trained here!

    • @FairBeautyEssentials
      @FairBeautyEssentials Год назад +4

      🙄 school only teach basics on how to pass class. School does not give you hands on work/job experience. Getting the actual job does that.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      Too late!

  • @godswarrior5527
    @godswarrior5527 Год назад

    yet nurses are short ...right...so give them to another school...with what they have already come on

    • @alyssadelfarojames3667
      @alyssadelfarojames3667 Год назад

      That really wouldn’t be simple 😂 most programs have a limited amount of people, where would all of these extra people go

    • @godswarrior5527
      @godswarrior5527 Год назад +3

      @@alyssadelfarojames3667 place them some where and let them do some extended classes...whereever they are lacking let them get help instead of all being a waste..things can done.. we people set up too much bureaucratic red tape..when some things can be much more simpler..we set rules and brake them when we want but it can't be for all..I know it's people's life so they do more intense training..if they pass they go through.

    • @mynewmelizziem9030
      @mynewmelizziem9030 Год назад

      @@godswarrior5527 I’m completely with you here ❤

  • @yournamehere9024
    @yournamehere9024 Год назад

    Did the fake grads pass the nclex?

  • @angelicspiritstudio119
    @angelicspiritstudio119 Год назад

    You can’t cut corners with patient care. If they believe these students are incompetent. I’m sorry it’s not worth risking. Get into a better placed accredited program.

    • @MNP208
      @MNP208 Год назад

      But their patient care skills have never been evaluated?!?!?

  • @terriseaton3049
    @terriseaton3049 Год назад +1

    LIFE SUCKS.

  • @scottcolegrove5308
    @scottcolegrove5308 Год назад

    How racist! We need to let anyone be a nurse if they pay their fees!

    • @Txcowboy80
      @Txcowboy80 Год назад +3

      What? This makes no sense.

    • @arnold8047
      @arnold8047 Год назад +3

      @@Txcowboy80i’m pretty sure he’s being sarcastic

    • @pinkleather6725
      @pinkleather6725 Год назад +2

      Lmfaooo what?