Krystal and Saagar REACT: NYT CANCELS writer for daring to go after Chrissy Teigen, Marie Kondo
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Krystal and Saagar discuss NYT Columnist Alison Roman’s temporary leave after her criticism of Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo.
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"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
Like Jews
Yup
Marie Kondo, our secret ruler.
@@jewnbugshekelstein5180 lol u r so weak if u think Jews control you 😂
Chrissy Teigun and Marie Kondo? Seems a bit far fetched.
This is the thing that gets the NYT to take action. Look at everything they have whiffed on over the last few years and let that sink in.
I'm waiting to hear that they've fired every one of their reporters or op-ed writers that peddled in Russiagate
KonigGustavAdolph yeah, not hard to understand where the people that say ‘fake news’ are coming from.
Did they fire the people who beat the drums to get the US to invade Iraq?
Well this is the kind of thing that titilates The Hill. A nonstory about absolutely nothing relevant to anybody but those involved. Frankly I don't give a rats ass.
@@TCt83067695
Brilliant equivalency...not!
I suppose I'll watch this to know who Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo are. Though, something tells me that it's not important to know who either one is.
This. Right. Here.
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one.
I highly doubt they care that some poor loser kid on youtube comments doesn't know who they are. But keep making comments as if the world revolves around what you know about or care about.
I don't And I'm not going to bother looking it up. I just don't care.
@@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127 You got triggered by something so inane.
Christie Tiegan is famous for no reason.
Famous? I've never heard of her.
She got half naked for money. Which I don't care about at all but that doesn't make her a genius to look up to. She's a moron quite frankly.
@@ghenulo yes I only heard of her because she married John legend. I also heard she rants a lot about Karen-ish things on Twitter. 🤷🏽♀️
Thank you. They say she was a model...but she was never a famous one so that's not what made her famous. Her marriage to John Legend did.
For the wrong reason.
Everything is about race when it comes to the cancel culture group.
Competing for victimhood
Except it is actually about race.
D) All of the Above - is the correct answer
@Benghali In Platforms BINGO!!
But did you think the NYT was part of cancel culture? I didn't.
I feel I woke up one day about 5 years ago into an alternate universe where everyone just decided at the same time that Chrissy Teigen was going to be famous for zero reason whatsoever. It’s like she won a McDonalds “be a celebrity” contest when I was sleeping and everyone in the world just agreed it was now a thing.
This ^^^
I was born 54 years ago and I feel like that every day since I was around ten. That was the day I realized that adults really had thrown bombs on each other houses and killed millions in two world wars. I woke up and since then always wonder what heinous crimes against each other they come up with. I wish I was some alien and had a shuttle parked somewhere to fly home to Proxima Centauri.
Amen.thst amy Schumer chick too.
She should sue the New York Times for defamation and mischaracterization of her beliefs.
the new york timesLIARS are the new National Enquirer Except their LIARS! F'n LIARS, F'n COMMIE LIARS!!
The lady that wants you to let go of your possessions, also wants you to buy her expensive crap.
only if it sparks joy
KONDO: “Get rid of your stuff that doesn’t give you joy, and buy my stuff which does! DUH!!!!”
I don't know. I think people have misconstrued her whole philosophy. Firstly, she never says get rid of the stuff you like. In fact, she says if you love all your stuff and you're totally happy and it brings you joy, you're good! She's more about, 'oh now you have 10 nailclippers because you keep misplacing yours? you don't like that? here are some tips.' But again, if you're happy and joyful, i dont think you need any of my advice. Secondly, after having quickly just taken a look at her official shop, it looks like it's stuff she might have in her own home. I disagree with krystal on this one.
This is more like a case of “celebrity privilege.”
Fun fact: Chrissy Teigen is the ONLY person I’ve ever blocked on social media. She is SO obnoxious and so negative.. Always arguing with someone new.
@@anjelbabe At least be honest. She's a trash person. The boomer thing is over....try something new.
@@anjelbabe You're a child. Lol. Go play on Instagram or something.
@@anjelbabe P.S. He seems to be a gen Xer.
I say good for you. She's pretty much a nobody anyway. I only know of her because she's married to that moron, John Legend.
I had No idea Chrissy Tiegan is Asian.
Norwegian thai
Because her mother is Thai, some of the dark Thai are actually Negrito heavy in DNA. Thus it's not absurd for one of these type that mixed with a western person to create a child who looks more like a light skinned black woman.
I thought she was Hawaiian for some reason. At the end of the day, WGAS?
Chrissy tiegan is not black??
@@emhu2594 She looks black
I haven't heard of any of these women until this segment. **is now considered sexist**
I hadn't either.
@@Raeinok Guess that makes 3 of us.
Identity politics do the opposite of what most think. This response will not help reduce racism against Asians. Maybe blaming Russia or China for everything for everything bad is a little more destructive to racial justice.
So you don't agree that this Covid 19 came from China? Do you not have a problem with the name Ebola or MERS?
@@Kingfisher1215 do you believe that Russia got Trump elected?
@@Kingfisher1215 - The source is irrelevant to the discussion of the terrible and intentional response of the entire US government to a global disaster. Grown ups save blame for after the crisis is handled correctly. So far, five multi-trillion dollar bailouts for Wall Street and a loan of pocket change for the people. Identity politics allow the guilty cover. Are you a guilty party or just providing cover?
Epstein didn’t kill himself.
maxim guerassimov nope. Obama elected Trump. And Hillary.
This kind of stuff is becoming way too common. I feel like everyday there's a story of somebody getting fired for criticizing somebody
She didn't get fired for criticizing. She got fired for fake quoting a Japanese woman as saying "please to buy my...", getting it shadow deleted from the article, and then providing insane excuses for it.
While Krystal and Saagar guffaw over Biden's use of "ain't" today, they erased that fact yesterday - in lockstep with the shadow edit.
Every step of these people's response to this is gross.
She should never have apologised.
That wasn't an apology. It was a mess.
She should have had the balls to stick by the nonsense she said. I would have respected her more.
Never ever ever apologize if anyone part of it is a progressive leftist slime element... it only encourages them/its/heshes to continue on.
Teigen is the establishment's favorite mouthpiece. Total garbage.
10 months later Chrissy Teigan cancelled! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 now thats funny
Aged like fine wine 🤣
When one is a racist everything becomes about race
+herlequinstar That's Because The NYT As The Corporate (MSNBC) Paper of Record Had To Protect The Economic Elite. So When Allison Roman Criticised The Shallowness of What The Economic Elites Are Spending Their Money on ($75.00 Tuning Forks ETC.) The NYT Had To Do A Corporate "Misdirect" of Roman's Criticism. From The "Marie Antoinette" (Let Them Eat Cake) Spending The Economic Elite Were Doing. To Roman's (White Privileged, Racial) Criticism of Two Women Who Just Happened To Be Asian, Who Were Catering To And Profiting From, The Frivolous Spending of The Economic Elite.
I learned about racism from black people. They bring it up more than any other demographic group. Hard to not talk about racism when your whole worldview is race-based.
That's actually not how that works. Talking about race doesn't make something racist. Believing that one race is superior to another make something racist. Stereotypes and other derogatory comments and actions and beliefs towards a group based on their race, make something racist.
How are we mad at Mari Kondo for making merch people likely BEGGED for? How are BATHROBES "goop stuff"??? What am I missing?
Marie Kondo 2018: "Get rid of all your stuff!"
Marie Kondo 2020: "Buy my useless stuff."
When all else fails,play the race card.
OK - White people invented the race card to have a bingo to use against uncomfortable topics. White employers ALSO played the race card where the two Asian women didn't even comment on it.
+David Carmack That's Because The NYT As The Corporate (MSNBC) Paper of Record Had To Protect The Economic Elite. So When Allison Roman Criticised The Shallowness of What The Economic Elites Are Spending Their Money on ($75.00 Tuning Forks ETC.) The NYT Had To Do A Corporate "Misdirect" of Roman's Criticism. From The "Marie Antoinette" (Let Them Eat Cake) Spending The Economic Elite Were Doing. To Roman's (White Privileged, Racial) Criticism of Two Women Who Just Happened To Be Asian, Who Were Catering To And Profiting From, The Frivolous Spending of The Economic Elite.
Not even "when all else fails..." They went directly to race card. It was a fair critique, but it out of the gate was "racist."
David Carmack it's nothing new. They did the same thing anytime someone criticized Obama.
It’s even more pathetic when the accuser doesn’t know what qualifies as a race. The SJW’s think “Chinese” is a race when, in fact, it is a nationality. I asked one such ignoramus, if Trump had called Covid19 the “Canadian virus”, would it be racist?
I found it hypocritical that Alison Roman bashed two Asian women who are making money, while she was also trying to shill $200 spoons. "These women are selling stuff and it's so commercial, but make sure you check out my products which are amazing." No. It is odd that she only went after two Asian women, when there are many examples of people doing the same thing. I don't know much about her, but from what I've read this is something she's done many times before, especially with women of colour.
I am proudly lost in this story 👍😎
I thought it was just me...... Not sure why precious minutes were wasted on this......
Krystal, that's the most precise coffee spill I've ever seen.
I love how Saagar tries so hard to not roll with his eyes :D
This reporting left out a crucial detail... Alison didn't just coincidently went after two Asian women, she actually did a mocking Japanese accent when she did that Marie bit, critique whatever you want, but it's that bit that's racist. Any person of East Asian descent can immediately clock the implications of a phrase such as "please to buy my cutting board” (the poor, submissive Asian woman with broken English ready to please)
I don’t know how many times people need to inform others, but that was not Marie Kondo’s message. She said a bajillion times even on her site that those are things that spark joy for her and maybe it will for buyers but don’t buy too much. Then in the show she CLEARLY says to get rid of things that do not spark joy i.e. things you don’t even really like. There’s a whole category dedicated to memorabilia. I think the criticism was bc Alison seemed to have celebrated Goop and not Kondo and Teigen. Don’t think it was racist but it was hypocritical especially bc she even plugged her own things she’s gonna sell.
If this is the context, this makes much more sense.
sympthylost yeah she said that it’s not her thing to sell things ppl already have and then mentioned Kondo and Teigen selling out by doing that lol but like she had just plugged her line of spoons that look vintage from a crappy company sooooooo yeah pretty hypocritical lol
PC culture is just as much about power than conservative moralism.
Those who evoke the rascism charge so casually, are more race-minded than those they accuse.
@ITHEREONETHATHASNT Obviously not considering Krystal and plenty like her are on the left. Nice try though.
It seems like pendulum always swings to far, is bigotry a thing yes is institutional bigotry a thing yes in some place is anyone that critizes a person that happens to be a minority a bigot no. But some people think it is for some reason.
J. Chipps What’s odd is that the youngest generations weren’t raised to have preconceptions about races. Their lifetimes have seen fewer examples of institutional racism than their elders. Yet they are prone to explaining any disagreement between dislike cultures or cliques as racist. Which is an oversimplification. Cliques are much more numerous and biased than races.
Kudos to Alison Roman. Truth is never cancel-able. Funny how NYTimes suspends people who tell the truth.
Holy smokes, is this real life?
Yes; apparently, we don't have anything else that's important enough to worry about.
No, it's actually rich people problems, not real life for the majority.
Doesn’t the NYT know that discriminating against Asians is OK. Harvard taught us this.
Hahahahaha!
The thing is, the problem is so much deeper than the 2 women she called out. They are cogs in a HUGE messed up system. There are a TON of examples she could have used across many races, so I admit it's a little weird she ended up with 2 Asians to be mad at BUT it could have been coincidence.
Yeah I agree but I hope future articles do make an effort to call out multicultural celebs/ whomever. This easily could've been a coincidence but really, she couldn't have found a few white celebs to balance the article? They've been doing this shit for FAR longer 🤣
You both got it wrong. It’s ALL ABOUT CENSORSHIP. It’s all about getting us used to censorship from the establishment, and training us to self-censor. Duh
I love you guys’ show. I watch everyday and will continue to watch everyday because you’re both amazing. But this is an incredibly stupid topic 😅.
Agreed! I don't come here for celebrity news.
This was an issue because of her appropriation of cultural dishes, like curry. There was a huge blowback on this via Twitter. I don't think you guys are having the whole story here. Also, the fact that she went after two Asian women is relevant in this context. It brought up bad memories for Asian immigrants, which entirely deserve to be heard and recognized.
This is the first time I'm finding out Chrissy Teigen is Asian.
I think the reason the NYT let her go is because you have soooo many white women to choose from to criticize, Gwyneth Paltrow, Shabby Chic , etc., and have been doing it for so long why did she choose to criticize these two women who, you think, coincidentally are Asian? America is not there yet! You have to be in a minority to understand the sensitivity, to see it from ours lenses. It's not a point to argue, just learn to understand & accept from our perspective.
TBH, Alison Roman is obnoxious and I've tried making her food and it's awful, it just takes nice Insta pics.
Okay we can agree to disagree. I havent tried her recipes yet but ive watched some vids of her making them and shes super funny. In some ways it seems like shes carrying NYT Food's online presence. The fact that she can be let go for something so trivial and personal is insane given that her work is well liked.
that's probably because you're not following the recipe right.
Get rid of everything... except for these completely useless and overpriced objects I'm hawking for quick profit. Really? Yes, that SHOULD be criticized.
Has Saagar been practicing his subscribe button point? This one was shockingly accurate lol
People get offended over every little freaking thing now...I just can't.
The more “woke” NYT’s is the more whiter, older, more male and wealthier your Presidents will be.
Alex Jones 2024!
@@iller3 We would at least know where they are hiding the aliens
Two superb comments by both ilr & Richard Weeden
That's hilarious especially considering that the only wokeness we should care about is being economically woke.
Increasingly canceling my NYT subscription is one of the best decisions I have ever made
Look at Saagar reacting when Krystal said she really likes Marie Kondo's book, haha.
Lol!
😂 You can see in his head: "This is the whitest woman I've ever met!"
It looks like he's getting a program downloaded into the Matrix so he can cope with what he just heard.
this aged extremely well
Hmmm...jeez im in the rare position of having no opinion on a racial issue 😉
I heard about this a couple days ago. Between this and the Tara Reade article I decided to cancel my online NYT article, thankfully I could do it through a chatbot. Alison Roman is a national treasure. Great recipes and amazing adorkable personality that is very accepting of flaws in cooking and life.
Maybe NYT needs to reduce staff so they figure they can get a 2fer and virtue signal.
Nah dude, Marie ain't about "we got too much stuff". She said get stuff that makes you feel good and ditch the stuff that doesn't. It ain't that hard. This NYT girl sounded like a Facebook mom reading about Marie Kondo on Pinterest and got shot when she looked stupid.
"They're Asian..." Really... I swear I look more "Asian" than Chrissy Teigen. Must be my .4 percent "Asian ancestry"...
Absolutely ridiculous. Will cancel NYT subscription now.
Are they really covering celebrity gossip? I guess Rising isn't much different than the corporate media. Oh wait, they are corporate media.
Yup. The Hill is corporate media. Krystal and Saagar pretend that they're independent, but they're not, though they do occasionally have true independent voices on.
No crissy teigen is about to get cancelled
That freaking sweater.
Right?! The black in the back subtly shows itself if you keep watching. So cool...
I have never heard of any of these people, and intend to keep it that way. i am blessed!
“Take the red pill”.
-Elon Musk
LOVE Ms Balls sweater!!!
Chrissy Tiegen is Asian? I thought she was Canadian First Nation, ie ndn.
@@pietrm1 who is Chrissy Tiegen?
Can we cancel "canceling"?
give me back those 3 minutes or the b gets it
She told the truth... Thats the #1 no no at the NYT. Lie or be fired!
It was racial when she mocked Kondo’s Japanese accent.
This is one topic that I completely agree with Saagar.
_"When you read rɑcism into something like this, it really just cheapens the term for when there actually_ *_IS_* _rɑcism."_
Agreed. Here comes the kicker though:
This not only goes for crying "Rɑcism!"... it also goes for crying "Rɑpe!"... or... "Me too!"
...just Saiyan... 😘 🕶
Being hypocritical is not an racial slur... On the other hand, maybe the writer is right about the hypocrisy but is still a bit racist...has she gone after other hypocrites in the same manner? The thing about Marie Kondo selling people stuff for so much $$$ is the real BS.
disappointed in the overly simplistic take here
??
"No matter how much things change, they stay the same"...but mostly toward the worse.
Nice catch, ...Hill!
I'm disappointed in KB's overly simplistic recap here.
I'm no stan of Mrs John Legend but that white lady's comments was disrespectful to Chrissy. And her fake white woman tears during her apology was actually offensive to me.
That being said, pls give her back her job for heavens sake. What is this madness?
@Triple-B It's funny I was gonna say the same about you. Awww-awww lol
If you read my comment rather than form a caricature of me, you would have seen I said I'm no fan of Teigan and I support the white lady's right to say whatever disrespectful belittling jargon she wishes so much so that I advocate for her to get her job back.
So tell me again Karen, what are you upset about now?🤔
I'm more terrified of Karens than Covid 19
I disagree with this analysis. It *was* a “racial” thing because Alison Roman chose to criticize two women of color rather than the many white women who chose to cash in on their ethos long before these two came along. In addition, you neglected to mention the fact that in referring to Marie Kondo, Roman chose to utilize stereotypical Asian accented English when she commented, “That’s the thing-you don’t need a ton of equipment in your kitchen to make great food. ‘For the low, low price of $19.99, please to buy my cutting board!”’ Emphasis on the “please to,” which most definitively mocks Kondo’s accent. She had no problem when Gwyneth Paltrow does the same thing (i.e. “Goop”), but when Teigen and Kondo, two Asian women, do it, they deserve to be called “bitches”.
This is an example of a prevalent, but problematic, tendency of your show: The insistence on precluding the role of race in your class analysis. This is what the two of you agree on, and to be frank, it is scary. You guys genuinely believe race has no role in how capitalism became the very DNA of this country.
Thank you - I feel the same way. Word.
wow you are really pushing the race card!
Exactly! Plus, she was trying to sell her $200 spoons at the same time. You can't mock women for doing the exact same thing you're trying to do.
So grateful not knowing who either if them are...
Saagar's reactions are the only redeeming part of this Segment and they're REALLY redeeming, hahaha
The NYT, NO LONGER A NEWSPAPER 😡
WOW!!!....what just happened?!
This is good for her. Getting fired from NYT will do her a huge service.
Oh, yeah....THESE 2 are an Exception
Everyday I get more disgusted with the NYT. This was not racist and Christie shows her class. This papers management is disgusting!
I am done with anyone losing their jobs over words, The thought of anyone losing their livelihood earned for words let's grow up America" If I taped 90% of America at home, barbershop, salon, Lodge, Baseball Field, Football Field, Etc now days most of us will be fired. It's Pathetic
There are writers at NYT that have done significantly worse.
appreciate yall!
It's been my experience that when someone gets fired for something ridiculous, there's always an underlying situation. Management then looks for a reason and opportunity to do so.
This is how the NYT fights for social justice?
Freedom of the press.
Yes if you speak the truth you will be fired or jailed!!
I don't know any of these women ... that said doesn't the NYT have editors? If the editor approved Alison Roman's article, how can she be suspended?
To say they're celebrities I've never even heard their names in my life there's so many supposed celebrities that no one knows
They're B-list celebs that you won't know about unless you follow social media or day-time talk show gossip.
OMG NO BODY CAN HAVE A OPINION ANYMORE. IF EVERYONE SAYS THE SAME THING LIFE WOULD BE SO BORING. ALTHOUGH PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE RUDE. AND TWIST THINGS AROUND.
Has there ever been a story about a celebrity where the word stupid has not cropped up somewhere.
I guess we’re out of the CV19 crisis. Petty racist claims back in the news is a sad sign of our country’s health.
Speaking about "cancel culture", cancel your subscription to NYT. "All that news that fits..."
When are people just going to start saying "f*ck off I'm not apologizing! I bet they'd get a lot more support than they think.
What's the new definition of racism? I'm confused.
Ask chiiiiiina lol
She is getting furloughed.
"People got deeply offended..." Alert the media!
Get rid of everything in your life that doesn't bring you joy. Things like the NYT, Chrissy Teigen, and Marie Kondo, for starters.
She should start her own news paper.
I was a huge fan of Alison Roman and love her recipes but what she did was wrong. Don’t step on others to express your jealousy. That’s what she did and thought it was ok. Krystal, you are white. Criticism of how people make their living from being celebrities is very American. Deal with it. Acting superior to the fact doesn’t change that. Alison put her foot in it. And the fact that she was well loved and stooped so low is what upset so many. She criticized POC women and yet she appropriates international ingredients into her kitchen trying to make them white. The stew is an Indian curry (yup Asian). Let’s call it what it really is ok?
Exactly. This explanation of what happened ignores the very important fact that she’s made her name on appropriating Asian food. So no, she shouldn’t get to openly attack other women. If not racist then at the very least it is classless and internal misogynist.