I feel bad for not only the ships of the white star line, but the company itself. The white star line never deserved the fate it got and I wish the company can make beautiful and luxurious ships again like it used to. I would also give props to cunard for still standing today
Nothing lasts forever. Time eventually removes everything. As for Cunard, it only really survives as a name. It has long belonged to Carnival Cruise lines.
Cunard is a shell of its former self now owned by carnival and only having 3 ships which is small compared to the amount of ships they had in the 1900’s
A very good video. I sailed on the Georgic , with my parents and two brothers, to Australia in 1949. The trip took six weeks. The last weeks were quite difficult as the ship had lost the use of one of its stabilizers and during rough seas in the Indian Ocean many passengers were seasick, including my parents. Most of us children didn’t mind the rough weather though, so I thoroughly enjoyed the trip.
My mother and I sailed on the Georgic in August 1954 from Cobh to New York. The ship was carrying mostly new immigrants like us. I still have the passenger list and a copy of a daily menu.
24 years is such a short life for such a great ship. All the expense of restoring her after the war only to go for scrap around 10 years later. We can only imagine what the Oceanic would have been like, a classic liner for sure but by now it too would be just a memory.
After India gained Independence, the British troops departed for England from the Bombay port on the MV Georgic. Indeed a pleasant thing to know that a white star liner touched the shores of India (my country)..
My mom sailed on her in 1951 from Liverpool to ny...used to have the steam trunk my moms with the ships sticker photo on..long gone now....brings back fond memories of my late mom..
What a sad thing for J. Bruce Ismay, the very ships that he dreamed that would bring him glory were destined for his fall. The Titanic and Britannic went soon as they came, without even giving a slight competition to the rivals, Mauretania and Lusitania. Only the noble Olympic backed his dream.. As fate would have both of them died in the same year.. While in 1937, when Ismay would die in London, the Olympic would be seeing her final end in Inverkeithing. Indeed a fine ship that never was built and never would be.
OlympicWS, you have done yourself proud. Outstanding video! So much to see in both photographs and newsreel; color and black-and-white; so much information. Beautiful music to go with the pictures and footage. There's even a brief appearance of the Dominion Monarch----maybe the subject of an upcoming video? Thank you for this excellent production.
Nicely made video and exceptionally informative. Heroic story of a "little liner", which survived destruction to go onto glory of a sort. White Star ships always seemed destined for disaster.
I sailed on this ship in the early 1950’s from I believe Southampton to New York with my parents and my brother. I have a photo of my mother on the deck during the trip. I used to have a photo of my brother and I too on he ship but it seems to have disappeared. This was a very nice and informative video, thank you!
@@michaelfilofficial : we took a train from New York to Hamilton, Ontario. To my recollection there was no stop in Canada. I could be wrong but I don’t remember any Canadian stop!
@@michaelfilofficial my mom am 3 siblings came from Ireland on the Georgic I was six just a little Farm girl getting on this beautiful ship we had so much fun on it and We got off in New York because my mom has family there and one of the relatives worked for the white star line so we got VIP treatment
Cullen Moseley because she suffered permanent damage that was only fixed up enough for her to be useful during the rest of the war and after the war when she was used as a ship for people emigrating to Australia as we needed the capacity/the ships (she had basic interiors for this too, not being restored to how she was before the war). Britannic followed her to the scrappers only 4 years later and they were becoming old for ships given how well used they both were during civilian and wartime service - older = less economical and more prone to (old age) problems such as mechanical breakdown (which led to Britannic being scrapped in the end).
Why are there never pictures of the interiors after longer usage. In every video we see the ships new and majestic . I would love to see some interior pictures after decades
The answer is quite simple. In the golden age of the liners, photography was still a relative rarity and required fairly cumbersome equipment. The only photos that exist in the public domain of many ships were the publicity shots taken by the owners for advertising, and they naturally wanted the ships to look their best. Some photos may exist of the later ships in private collections but they obviously get lost over the years. Very few photos of the interior of Titanic actually exist, for example. Many of the pictures we do see are actually of the Olympic.
When built they eerevtte largest motor liners in the world propelled by 10 cylinder B & W -H & W diesel engines which were very fuel efficient and reliable engines .
It's a shame that all but one ship is gone. They either sank or got scrapped. The best WSL ship in my opinion is the Royal Mail Steamer Olympic. I also noticed that WSL ships always had ic on their names; Cedric, Oceanic, Georgic, Titanic, Zealandic, well you get what I mean. The Nomadic is the only ship that's still around today. There also was a small steamship line called the Black Star Line. The Black Star Line (1919−1922) was a shipping line incorporated by Marcus Garvey, the organizer of the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), and other members of the UNIA. The shipping line was created to facilitate the transportation of goods and eventually African Americansthroughout the African global economy. It derived its name from the White Star Line, a line whose success Garvey felt he could duplicate. Black Star Line became a key part of Garvey's contribution to the Back-to-Africa movement. It was one among many businesses which the UNIA originated, such as the Universal Printing House, Negro Factories Corporation, and the widely distributed and highly successful Negro Worldweekly newspaper.
Yup. Its a tradition that they used even towards the end. The Cunard line did it too but they used "ia" at the end of each ships built. The Britannia was Samuel Cunard's first ship and the first ship built by white star line lead by Thomas ismay was the Oceanic back in the 1850s. In the late 1920s, Cunard wanted to try something different with their new megaship projects and many future megaships moving forward. Instead of using the last 2 letters "ia" at the end of each of their ship names, they decided to name their megaships after her majesty. The Queen Mary was the first ship to adopt this concept followed by the Queen Elizabeth a few years later but they still kept naming their smaller, more fuel efficient ships after the last 2 letters "ia" like the Mauretania 2 and the single funneled Caronia. The white star line never made this change as they still kept their tradition of naming their ships after the last 2 letters "ic" at the end of their ship names.
Howcome if they built 2, why didnt they just combine them and make one giant ship? Cunard had queen mary, but if they built oceanic it wouldve been 6 years before qm was even built and they wouldve had an advantage over cunard. I just never got that completely
some music contemporary to the ship wold be much more entertaining instead of those overdramatic repeating swells and the sounds of whomever that is wailing away in the background.
If only Bruce Ismay was not fired from the company (1912-1913). WSL would have survived the great depression and Olympic 2 or Brittanic or Adriatic would have been sailing in modern shipping world. Losing Titanic and Britannic was also the final nail in the coffin for WSL.
Mr. Ismay had already planned to renounce the presidency of the IMMC and WSL before the Titanic catastrophe and had instead planned to have Mr. Sanderson succeed him.. The timing went so horribly wrong that even today people believe that Mr. Ismay retired only because of the Titanic affairs.
i prefer the oceanic 3 rather than these two why? the oceanic 3 will be the ship that can save them because of her rivals the normandi and the queen mary she was at the top and can also keep the blue riband but uhuh wsl still cancel and built this low small motor vessel ship
why oceanic 3 was stoped and the project died : parent's company of white star say no the great depression the company deside to save money company's problem's the new owner of white star was jailed the failour of the titanic disaster still alive un tile those days {fun fact oceanic 3 was only built for size do white star does not pioritise speed at all and never use speed on there answer for there rivals also both goergic and britannic had a purpose to replace the big four and to keep the white star line afloat but did not happend} { if oceanic 3 did get the blue riband that wont last forever as Queen mary may steal it from her or ether SS united states will take it} .
@@mr.juniii5523 Oceanic was supposed to have the same or more speed than Queen Mary so If Oceanic had taken the speed record I think that the Queen Mary wouldn’t have gained it again
Quite sad. The Olympic class really ruined white star. They were amazing ships, but insurance wouldn't cover the claims on olympic after her numerous incidents, and the sinking of titanic put a blight on their reputation from which they never truely recovered. Coupled with the great depression, white star simply couldn't stay afloat
The Great Depression and poor management of the profits throughout the 1920s it what ruined the white star line, also the fact that the owner of the line in the 30s Lord Kylsant was a corrupt politic that stole all of the companies fund, leaving it in terrible shape and being unable to modernize their fleet, the Olympic class, although it was a failure, excluding Olympic it didn’t play a big role in the companies demise
@@juanesmirez Im sorry but I have to disagree. The Titanic disaster severely tarnished their reputation for quite some time, not to mention the combined financial losses of Titanic and Britannic would have helped them in the long run. Bad management absolutely plays a roll, but when your stellar product is a dismal failure, losses are created that you are never really able to recoup. Much like Concorde or countless other companies
@@themusicalpilot1382 well, actually the Titanic disaster didn’t affect much white star’s reputation you can see this because actually 1913 was a very good financial year for white star, although people where shocked and the passenger bookings dropped for a short time they rapidly went back to normal after safety updates where incorporated to almost all of the ships in the fleet, the loss of the Titanic was a financial blow in some way but if you see that the titanic was partially insured and the profits of the company achieved a record in 1913, the financial loss wasn’t so bad. The loss of Britannic had very little impact on the companies profits too, because after the war they gave them the rms majestic as a compensation for the loss of britannic. The White Star that was owned by the Merchant Mechanical Marine until 1927, the year when the Mv Britannic, White Star last liner was laid down and started construction, until that point White Star was a very strong and profitable company, the decline went form 1927 to 1934, the person who bought the company was Lord Kylsant, he didn’t invested the profits in the company so in the 1930s the White Star Line begun to see heavy losses, new ships where coming and this was affecting the profits that the aging ships of White Star did, unable to modernize its fleet by building new ocean liners the company had to sell many of their ships such as the Arabic, Cedric and Baltic, when the merger between White Star and Cunard occurred in 1934, the Cunard line now owned a 62% of the new company while White Star only a miserable 38% this was because Cunard had 15 ships at the time white White Star had 10, maybe if the company didn’t scrapped most of their vessels in the 1930s they would have had the larger part of the company and White Star would still be around today. I hope that my comment gave you some useful information on the true reason why White Star disappeared
I feel bad for not only the ships of the white star line, but the company itself. The white star line never deserved the fate it got and I wish the company can make beautiful and luxurious ships again like it used to. I would also give props to cunard for still standing today
Nothing lasts forever. Time eventually removes everything. As for Cunard, it only really survives as a name. It has long belonged to Carnival Cruise lines.
Cunard is a shell of its former self now owned by carnival and only having 3 ships which is small compared to the amount of ships they had in the 1900’s
@@trainsgod1042 4 ships
@@complicatedpoliticalviews Queen Anne isn’t complete
@@trainsgod1042 queen Anne will set sail in 2024
A very good video. I sailed on the Georgic , with my parents and two brothers, to Australia in 1949. The trip took six weeks. The last weeks were quite difficult as the ship had lost the use of one of its stabilizers and during rough seas in the Indian Ocean many passengers were seasick, including my parents. Most of us children didn’t mind the rough weather though, so I thoroughly enjoyed the trip.
My mother and I sailed on the Georgic in August 1954 from Cobh to New York. The ship was carrying mostly new immigrants like us. I still have the passenger list and a copy of a daily menu.
24 years is such a short life for such a great ship. All the expense of restoring her after the war only to go for scrap around 10 years later. We can only imagine what the Oceanic would have been like, a classic liner for sure but by now it too would be just a memory.
The world changed massively and left ships like this behind. As soon as jet planes came into existence, the writing was on the wall.
After India gained Independence, the British troops departed for England from the Bombay port on the MV Georgic. Indeed a pleasant thing to know that a white star liner touched the shores of India (my country)..
My mom sailed on her in 1951 from Liverpool to ny...used to have the steam trunk my moms with the ships sticker photo on..long gone now....brings back fond memories of my late mom..
What a sad thing for J. Bruce Ismay, the very ships that he dreamed that would bring him glory were destined for his fall. The Titanic and Britannic went soon as they came, without even giving a slight competition to the rivals, Mauretania and Lusitania. Only the noble Olympic backed his dream.. As fate would have both of them died in the same year.. While in 1937, when Ismay would die in London, the Olympic would be seeing her final end in Inverkeithing. Indeed a fine ship that never was built and never would be.
You have outdone youreself i love this vidoe and aswell it made me cry keep it up
A very elegant ship and beautiful from all angles. Proof that size isn't everything.
OlympicWS, you have done yourself proud. Outstanding video! So much to see in both photographs and newsreel; color and black-and-white; so much information. Beautiful music to go with the pictures and footage. There's even a brief appearance of the Dominion Monarch----maybe the subject of an upcoming video? Thank you for this excellent production.
Nicely made video and exceptionally informative. Heroic story of a "little liner", which survived destruction to go onto glory of a sort. White Star ships always seemed destined for disaster.
This is an amazing video, OlympicWS, I was so happy when they rebuilt Georgic, cause if they hadn't it would be like loosing Oceanic II again.
Beautifully done.
At the age of seven years I was a passenger on board this ship in May of 1954 from Southampton to New York.
My father James (Jim) Quinn sailed back to England from India in 1946 at the end of WW2 RAF service, on the Georgic.
Magnifique vidéo !!!! 👌👌👌👌 C'est mon navire préféré !
1951 we sailed to Nova Scotia
You did a beautiful,tasteful job on this.
I’m in love with this channel!
I sailed on the Georgic 1950, Liverpool to Halifax, did she run aground in the St Lawrence river once?
I feel bad for not only the Georgic and the britannic, but the rest of the white star line ships that the company never fulfilled. It's a shame
I sailed on this ship in the early 1950’s from I believe Southampton to New York with my parents and my brother. I have a photo of my mother on the deck during the trip. I used to have a photo of my brother and I too on he ship but it seems to have disappeared. This was a very nice and informative video, thank you!
Was there a stop in Canada? Do you recall?
@@michaelfilofficial : we took a train from New York to Hamilton, Ontario. To my recollection there was no stop in Canada. I could be wrong but I don’t remember any Canadian stop!
@@michaelfilofficial my mom am 3 siblings came from Ireland on the Georgic I was six just a little Farm girl getting on this beautiful ship we had so much fun on it and We got off in New York because my mom has family there and one of the relatives worked for the white star line so we got VIP treatment
Great video mate!!
Um salve do Brasil!
Adorei o vídeo.
My grandfather sailed on the Georgic during WW2
Why did they scrap her before her older sister? Plus she was remade so I would think that would make her have lasted a bit longer as well.
Cullen Moseley because she suffered permanent damage that was only fixed up enough for her to be useful during the rest of the war and after the war when she was used as a ship for people emigrating to Australia as we needed the capacity/the ships (she had basic interiors for this too, not being restored to how she was before the war). Britannic followed her to the scrappers only 4 years later and they were becoming old for ships given how well used they both were during civilian and wartime service - older = less economical and more prone to (old age) problems such as mechanical breakdown (which led to Britannic being scrapped in the end).
You can call that refit 'war streamlining'.
Small can be beautiful
Who would of imagine that nomadic the smallest ship of the fleet would survive 100 years later and the only one
Shes not the smallest do the first traffic was the smallest and also survive for 70 years with the white star
wheere do you found the georgic footage and what its call please anwser i love ship
Sohny Pictures i have researchs and i didnt find it
Sohny Pictures don’t be toxic
Grand ol ships
Why are there never pictures of the interiors after longer usage.
In every video we see the ships new and majestic .
I would love to see some interior pictures after decades
The answer is quite simple. In the golden age of the liners, photography was still a relative rarity and required fairly cumbersome equipment. The only photos that exist in the public domain of many ships were the publicity shots taken by the owners for advertising, and they naturally wanted the ships to look their best. Some photos may exist of the later ships in private collections but they obviously get lost over the years. Very few photos of the interior of Titanic actually exist, for example. Many of the pictures we do see are actually of the Olympic.
I really like your channel, I love transatlantic! I would like to see a video of the SS Michelangelo and the SS Rafaello! Greetings from Sebastiano
Why they have to scrap the georgic more early than the older ship MV Britannic ?
When built they eerevtte largest motor liners in the world propelled by 10 cylinder B & W -H & W diesel engines which were very fuel efficient and reliable engines .
What happened to the original music you just put up @OlympicWS
Are there any photos of the crew?
Happy Christmas.🎄
It's a shame that all but one ship is gone. They either sank or got scrapped. The best WSL ship in my opinion is the Royal Mail Steamer Olympic. I also noticed that WSL ships always had ic on their names; Cedric, Oceanic, Georgic, Titanic, Zealandic, well you get what I mean. The Nomadic is the only ship that's still around today. There also was a small steamship line called the Black Star Line.
The Black Star Line (1919−1922) was a shipping line incorporated by Marcus Garvey, the organizer of the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), and other members of the UNIA. The shipping line was created to facilitate the transportation of goods and eventually African Americansthroughout the African global economy. It derived its name from the White Star Line, a line whose success Garvey felt he could duplicate. Black Star Line became a key part of Garvey's contribution to the Back-to-Africa movement. It was one among many businesses which the UNIA originated, such as the Universal Printing House, Negro Factories Corporation, and the widely distributed and highly successful Negro Worldweekly newspaper.
Yup. Its a tradition that they used even towards the end. The Cunard line did it too but they used "ia" at the end of each ships built. The Britannia was Samuel Cunard's first ship and the first ship built by white star line lead by Thomas ismay was the Oceanic back in the 1850s. In the late 1920s, Cunard wanted to try something different with their new megaship projects and many future megaships moving forward. Instead of using the last 2 letters "ia" at the end of each of their ship names, they decided to name their megaships after her majesty. The Queen Mary was the first ship to adopt this concept followed by the Queen Elizabeth a few years later but they still kept naming their smaller, more fuel efficient ships after the last 2 letters "ia" like the Mauretania 2 and the single funneled Caronia. The white star line never made this change as they still kept their tradition of naming their ships after the last 2 letters "ic" at the end of their ship names.
Not often is a ship rebuilt after something like that
Sad these 2 mottor vessels are the last foot standing for white star :(.
Howcome if they built 2, why didnt they just combine them and make one giant ship? Cunard had queen mary, but if they built oceanic it wouldve been 6 years before qm was even built and they wouldve had an advantage over cunard. I just never got that completely
Can you do a video of all the 4 funneld ships?
My favorit ship is ss majestic
wrong vid sorry
some music contemporary to the ship wold be much more entertaining instead of those overdramatic repeating swells and the sounds of whomever that is wailing away in the background.
If only Bruce Ismay was not fired from the company (1912-1913). WSL would have survived the great depression and Olympic 2 or Brittanic or Adriatic would have been sailing in modern shipping world. Losing Titanic and Britannic was also the final nail in the coffin for WSL.
Mr. Ismay had already planned to renounce the presidency of the IMMC and WSL before the Titanic catastrophe and had instead planned to have Mr. Sanderson succeed him.. The timing went so horribly wrong that even today people believe that Mr. Ismay retired only because of the Titanic affairs.
i prefer the oceanic 3 rather than these two why? the oceanic 3 will be the ship that can save them because of her rivals the normandi and the queen mary she was at the top and can also keep the blue riband but uhuh wsl still cancel and built this low small motor vessel ship
why oceanic 3 was stoped and the project died :
parent's company of white star say no
the great depression
the company deside to save money
company's problem's
the new owner of white star was jailed
the failour of the titanic disaster still alive un tile those days
{fun fact oceanic 3 was only built for size do white star does not pioritise speed at all and never use speed on there answer for there rivals also both goergic and britannic had a purpose to replace the big four and to keep the white star line afloat but did not happend} { if oceanic 3 did get the blue riband that wont last forever as Queen mary may steal it from her or ether SS united states will take it} .
@@mr.juniii5523 Oceanic was supposed to have the same or more speed than Queen Mary so If Oceanic had taken the speed record I think that the Queen Mary wouldn’t have gained it again
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It should have been called britanic 3 not britanic
well M.V Britannic was way WAY Different to the Olympic class vessel
so no she isn't gonna be as Britannic 3
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Quite sad. The Olympic class really ruined white star. They were amazing ships, but insurance wouldn't cover the claims on olympic after her numerous incidents, and the sinking of titanic put a blight on their reputation from which they never truely recovered. Coupled with the great depression, white star simply couldn't stay afloat
The Great Depression and poor management of the profits throughout the 1920s it what ruined the white star line, also the fact that the owner of the line in the 30s Lord Kylsant was a corrupt politic that stole all of the companies fund, leaving it in terrible shape and being unable to modernize their fleet, the Olympic class, although it was a failure, excluding Olympic it didn’t play a big role in the companies demise
@@juanesmirez Im sorry but I have to disagree. The Titanic disaster severely tarnished their reputation for quite some time, not to mention the combined financial losses of Titanic and Britannic would have helped them in the long run. Bad management absolutely plays a roll, but when your stellar product is a dismal failure, losses are created that you are never really able to recoup. Much like Concorde or countless other companies
@@themusicalpilot1382 well, actually the Titanic disaster didn’t affect much white star’s reputation you can see this because actually 1913 was a very good financial year for white star, although people where shocked and the passenger bookings dropped for a short time they rapidly went back to normal after safety updates where incorporated to almost all of the ships in the fleet, the loss of the Titanic was a financial blow in some way but if you see that the titanic was partially insured and the profits of the company achieved a record in 1913, the financial loss wasn’t so bad. The loss of Britannic had very little impact on the companies profits too, because after the war they gave them the rms majestic as a compensation for the loss of britannic. The White Star that was owned by the Merchant Mechanical Marine until 1927, the year when the Mv Britannic, White Star last liner was laid down and started construction, until that point White Star was a very strong and profitable company, the decline went form 1927 to 1934, the person who bought the company was Lord Kylsant, he didn’t invested the profits in the company so in the 1930s the White Star Line begun to see heavy losses, new ships where coming and this was affecting the profits that the aging ships of White Star did, unable to modernize its fleet by building new ocean liners the company had to sell many of their ships such as the Arabic, Cedric and Baltic, when the merger between White Star and Cunard occurred in 1934, the Cunard line now owned a 62% of the new company while White Star only a miserable 38% this was because Cunard had 15 ships at the time white White Star had 10, maybe if the company didn’t scrapped most of their vessels in the 1930s they would have had the larger part of the company and White Star would still be around today. I hope that my comment gave you some useful information on the true reason why White Star disappeared
@@themusicalpilot1382 also I recommend you to see the video of Great Ocean Liners, “Mv Britannic the last White Star liner” to get more information :)
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