Right from the start! The first reason is why I stick to reasonably priced stainless 200 meter dive watches. They are overbuilt to withstand pressure but also withstand clumsiness.
They are also terrible looking. I guess the "overbuilt" aesthetic has its appeal in some situations but in normal business casual they look entirely out of place and quite silly. Exacerbated if the person wearing it is obviously not living an active lifestyle. For me dive watches are just boring and an entirely uninspired way to collect watches. Of course, that's why they make all different types, style is a very personal thing and obviously varies greatly.
@@678rwhp A broken watch is broken. Call it a "sports watch" or a "tool watch" whatever. I look for watches that will stand up to my intended use... which in my case includes bashing off of door frames, wrenches, etc. I don't set out to damage my belongings but I'm realistic in my expectations. It's okay if you don't like what I like. That's why there are so many from which to choose!
As a clumsy outdoorsy cynical OCD introvert, I'm delighted you covered all the bases. The fear sweat during the zombie apocalipse was also a very pragmatic point to consider😂
12:50 THIS is _exactly_ why I actually prefer Seiko's unsigned screw-down crowns. They sign the non-screw-down crowns in the Presage, but not on anything with water resistance. Why? Because you can line up the logo on a non-screw-down crown, but a screw-down crown needs the threads to be indexed exactly right for that logo to line up, which means you can't just manufacture a bunch of crowns with logos and have any of them line up unless the logo is engraved _after_ the crown is assembled onto the watch, which I imagine is much more expensive to do.
I was on holiday in Kansas in 2016, and experienced a localised Zombie apocalypse. My Pelagos survived unscathed, but my friend was wearing a Hublot, and I can tell you, Zombies really don't like Hublots, or any person wearing a Hublot. I think the overly ornate design, is something that disturbs them, and that they REALLY wish to destroy. Luckily my friends brain liquid was easily buffed off my P42, with a toothbrush and some distilled water. I was wearing the full titanium strap, so can't comment on how the rubber or NATO strap would perform.
"10 Watches I Suggest You Avoid" - Misleading click bait title as this podcast does not mention ANY watches to avoid. Its "10 TYPE of watches I suggest you avoid"
Avoid getting an expensive Sun Dial fixture in the garden if you have OCD. They are no good on a cloudy day, we have a lot of those in the UK but sometimes have fog as well. The other thing is that the beloved Sun Dial doesn't give a pair of dingo's kidneys when DST starts or stops that allegedly can trigger the Oozlum reflex resulting in the owner disappearing completely.
Don’t get rid of dates! I actually daily drive a watch with day date and it’s more useful than the actual time keeping! I’m surrounded by clocks and watches, not so much with dates
I never looked at it from the watch's point of view but you're right. My poor vintage Seamaster probably was looking forward to retirement, till I bought it on Ebay on a whim.
On a totally different note.....Thank You for informing me about the Breitling Emergency! Never even heard of it, and although I don't need such a thing at the moment, IF I ever get back into mountaineering again, such an item may well be useful!
I use a pocket watch WITHOUT a tourbillon but thankfully I do a lot of hand stands, cartwheels, scissor kicks etc. to the delight of coworkers so accuracy is still good.
Hah. My daily wear for most of the 00s was a 70s Rolex Oysterdate on a leather strap. I'm hugely clumsy and at the time was going to a load of gigs/clubs and all sorts of other nonsense. There were multiple times where I had to chase my watch across a venue because the strap broke or spring bar came detached. It lasted surprisingly well but I put it away after killing it for the second time. Had it serviced, repaired and crystal replace earlier this year so it's running happily again, although I usually wear a Garmin now. Getting it running cost me more than the whole watch did in 1999, but to be fair the watch itself is worth way more now too!
18:00 recurring calendar event to occur every month on the first of each month, "Check dates" I forget to do this, mind you, but the solution also seems simple.
I can't stand the magnifying glass over the date window. I'm always trying to make it look right by trying to centre the numerals in it just right, but it never does, and it makes the dial look rubbish. Not sure which category of mental illness that puts me in, but I really hate it.
These guys are among the funniest hosts on the internet. Hidden gem. I enjoy hearing the faint laughter of one of the guys while the other is cracking jokes.
'A fruit machine or love tester'?? Oddly specific there Tom! I guess we'll never know.....What happens in Blackpool stays in Blackpool! OMG, you've seen right through me with my collection of black socks haven't you! Totally in agreement with your assessement of perpetual calendar watches!! I do however up to a point disagree about kilts.....You CAN wear a kilt casually.....BUT it DOES need to be worn with confidence, but NEVER in conjunction with an Invicta!
Wow, spot on. I never made the connection but it’s so true. Richard Mille looks like an expensive Invicta…. And this is precisely why I cannot stand that brand , speaking about RM, the over priced Invicta!!! 😂 I just think they look like Cracker Jacks box toy watches !!!🥳
If you had mucked around with a perpetual calendar watch, you can save a lot of time resetting it back to the current day by chucking the crown it into a drill.
On the conversation of vintage watches, I am hard on watches. It is just how I am no matter how careful I am. This is why I am grateful for modern retro a la Tudor Blacl Bay or Bulova Jet Star. Retro styling with modern materials and parts for servicing.
I only watch this channel because it is better than normal telly….BTW, great advice, noted but totally ignored. Please don’t mention Apple Watch and Rolex in the same video. I had to sit down for a moment after that shock!
In a pool with a dress watch? Sounds stupid but happened to me 😅 But the watch survived the water, 30m seem to be fine for swimming 🙈😁 Thx Navitimer, great job 👍🏻 (D33030)
People who are always late should probably not buy any watch at all ! You guys really came out with a comprehensive list of personal traits matched with appropriate wristwatch functions ! Fortunately for me highly irrational persons are not on yor list ! Thus, I am free to buy every type of watch you mentioned !
Summary is if you’re someone who is clumsy or is in an environment that has a lot of hard and sharp objects or you participate in activities that requires a lot of arm movement, don’t get anything too expensive or just get a G-shock or something similar
I am that person but also feel like no grown man (unless in the military or emergency services) should be wearing a digital watch! 😂 I stick to my 62Mas as my beater & I am a carpenter.
@@just-a-kollector1568 respectfully, I think that’s an outdated concept, G-Shocks I literally worn by all types of men, from the richest to chefs, to athletes, to people that workout at the gym, people that go on hikes, ride bicycles on park/ mountain trails, construction workers, race drivers, musicians, celebrities, the list goes on and on, there’s a reason why people into watches love G-Shocks, they’re actually perfect for a carpenter too
But... Tom... What if you are at a very civilised location, with some relaxing jazz in the background, and a tart tatin on order at a bistro café, whiksr reflecting on the perfect synchronicity of your delicate vintage watch in that setting, only to find yourself the subject of mistaken identity and the victim of robust police action? What then?!? Do you warn the arresting officers that you are wearing a vintage watch?
Or not buy a watch at all, because unless you intend to lock yourself alone somewhere without electricity, a phone will tell the time, the TV will tell the time, and your boss will certainly let you know the time when you fail to turn up for work.
Perhaps a pessimist might find liberation in knowledge of the fundamental truth that this too shall pass. To that extent, the Accurate may bring a bit of freedom every time one glances at the watch.
Absolutely agree with Tom on date windows topic. Without additional information, like day or day and month, it tells nothing and ruins look of a dial. Especially when placed in some weird place like "on hour 4". And when there is also cyclops eye to see it better, it is even worse as it is easier to scratch something that stands out of the watch glass. One of few reasons I will never buy Rolex Sub or similar watch.
@@5891jonathan Oh, you're right. However, still there are other reasons not to buy this watch or even most of Rolex collection :) Like, for example, design. Most copied in the world, by "homage" brands. For Rolex price, I would want people to see I have Rolex but by buying Invicta, Steinhart or similar brand, result is the same. And Rolex on the wrist invites thieves. I like Rolex's younger brother, Tudor, though.
LMAO most reasons I sold my few overly expensive watches and now wear only Tudor and Omega for everyday but not buying cheap Seiko etc was listed here. OCD, don't wear watch you can't easily replace and one with forgetting about wearing a wrong watch. Still remember how years ago looking at my wrist while walking out of the ocean suddenly realizing I swam for 30 minutes wearing gold Breguet with 3 atm of water resistance. At list it was on a bracelet. Got lucky but I know a lot of people who didn't and it did cost them a lot of money.
Avoid like the plague ANY supposed chronograph with a “24 hour” sub dial. Watch folks who are pilots will instantly know……this dude is no pilot. lol! 😂
The remember you will die watch is great. Wearing this watch I wouldn‘t even mind dying in an accident, as in my last conscious moment I‘d think about giving the mortician a good laugh.
"If you're cynical and don't want to spend money on pointless watch with tourbillion, you're gonna buy apple watch" From one pointless thing to another :)
Right from the start! The first reason is why I stick to reasonably priced stainless 200 meter dive watches. They are overbuilt to withstand pressure but also withstand clumsiness.
When you say reasonably priced... how reasonable are we talking
They are also terrible looking. I guess the "overbuilt" aesthetic has its appeal in some situations but in normal business casual they look entirely out of place and quite silly. Exacerbated if the person wearing it is obviously not living an active lifestyle.
For me dive watches are just boring and an entirely uninspired way to collect watches. Of course, that's why they make all different types, style is a very personal thing and obviously varies greatly.
@@cheesball96orient kamasu maybe ?
@@cheesball96 Take your pick. For me it's under $100.
@@678rwhp A broken watch is broken. Call it a "sports watch" or a "tool watch" whatever. I look for watches that will stand up to my intended use... which in my case includes bashing off of door frames, wrenches, etc. I don't set out to damage my belongings but I'm realistic in my expectations. It's okay if you don't like what I like. That's why there are so many from which to choose!
As a clumsy outdoorsy cynical OCD introvert, I'm delighted you covered all the bases. The fear sweat during the zombie apocalipse was also a very pragmatic point to consider😂
12:50 THIS is _exactly_ why I actually prefer Seiko's unsigned screw-down crowns. They sign the non-screw-down crowns in the Presage, but not on anything with water resistance. Why? Because you can line up the logo on a non-screw-down crown, but a screw-down crown needs the threads to be indexed exactly right for that logo to line up, which means you can't just manufacture a bunch of crowns with logos and have any of them line up unless the logo is engraved _after_ the crown is assembled onto the watch, which I imagine is much more expensive to do.
My Timex North Expedition Solar has a 3-peak mountain logo that lines up when screwed down
I lost it at “perhaps a minute repeater isn’t the kind of watch that they should own.” 😂
Thanks!
Why add a date complication on a diver watch? How many days can a diver stay underwater anyway?
If you want to wear the diver as your daily??? Literally no downside with adding a date other than maybe "muh clean dial"
Why 300m resistance....no human can swim that deep.
No, but they might remember that it's their wife's birthday and they have to cut the dive short in order to buy her flowers.
hahaha
Who actually buy a dive Watch and take it diving?
I was on holiday in Kansas in 2016, and experienced a localised Zombie apocalypse. My Pelagos survived unscathed, but my friend was wearing a Hublot, and I can tell you, Zombies really don't like Hublots, or any person wearing a Hublot. I think the overly ornate design, is something that disturbs them, and that they REALLY wish to destroy. Luckily my friends brain liquid was easily buffed off my P42, with a toothbrush and some distilled water. I was wearing the full titanium strap, so can't comment on how the rubber or NATO strap would perform.
That story can't be true. No one goes on holiday in Kansas.
I feel like Tom should just get himself a Casio G-Shock next.
"10 Watches I Suggest You Avoid" - Misleading click bait title as this podcast does not mention ANY watches to avoid.
Its "10 TYPE of watches I suggest you avoid"
"Pessimism is an ugly word for observational awareness."
Avoid getting an expensive Sun Dial fixture in the garden if you have OCD. They are no good on a cloudy day, we have a lot of those in the UK but sometimes have fog as well. The other thing is that the beloved Sun Dial doesn't give a pair of dingo's kidneys when DST starts or stops that allegedly can trigger the Oozlum reflex resulting in the owner disappearing completely.
I stay away from Rolex, IWC, Jacob & Co, Richard Mille, Ulysse Nardin, Patek Phillipe. Why? I can't afford them...
Don’t get rid of dates! I actually daily drive a watch with day date and it’s more useful than the actual time keeping!
I’m surrounded by clocks and watches, not so much with dates
I never looked at it from the watch's point of view but you're right. My poor vintage Seamaster probably was looking forward to retirement, till I bought it on Ebay on a whim.
17:59 thank you!!!!!! I've been saying this for years.
I’ve always successfully avoided Pateks, what a load of toot 😂😂
On a totally different note.....Thank You for informing me about the Breitling Emergency! Never even heard of it, and although I don't need such a thing at the moment, IF I ever get back into mountaineering again, such an item may well be useful!
I use a pocket watch WITHOUT a tourbillon but thankfully I do a lot of hand stands, cartwheels, scissor kicks etc. to the delight of coworkers so accuracy is still good.
I would definitely activate that Breitling as soon as I got it home. Thanks fellers!
Great advice, that’s the reason I traded my vintage Speedmaster, it was in such a great shape, that I didn’t want to mess it up.
Hah. My daily wear for most of the 00s was a 70s Rolex Oysterdate on a leather strap. I'm hugely clumsy and at the time was going to a load of gigs/clubs and all sorts of other nonsense. There were multiple times where I had to chase my watch across a venue because the strap broke or spring bar came detached. It lasted surprisingly well but I put it away after killing it for the second time.
Had it serviced, repaired and crystal replace earlier this year so it's running happily again, although I usually wear a Garmin now. Getting it running cost me more than the whole watch did in 1999, but to be fair the watch itself is worth way more now too!
Watchfinder Corporation destroys stupid watch decisions with facts and logic! 👊
18:00 recurring calendar event to occur every month on the first of each month, "Check dates"
I forget to do this, mind you, but the solution also seems simple.
I can't stand the magnifying glass over the date window. I'm always trying to make it look right by trying to centre the numerals in it just right, but it never does, and it makes the dial look rubbish. Not sure which category of mental illness that puts me in, but I really hate it.
These guys are among the funniest hosts on the internet. Hidden gem.
I enjoy hearing the faint laughter of one of the guys while the other is cracking jokes.
Nice 'Mr Jolly lives next door' reference Tom
Also avoid luxury watches costing under £50 from Mick the Tick in the Kings Head
Mick the tick! Love it
...well, at least you cut out the middleman😎
1:33 you’d be surprised how easily vintage 18k cases dent… don’t ask me how I know
Literally just put my SSK003 and then your thumbnail…thanks 4 that
Tom is fricken hilarious
If you’re desperate for views make another pointless video
'A fruit machine or love tester'?? Oddly specific there Tom! I guess we'll never know.....What happens in Blackpool stays in Blackpool! OMG, you've seen right through me with my collection of black socks haven't you! Totally in agreement with your assessement of perpetual calendar watches!! I do however up to a point disagree about kilts.....You CAN wear a kilt casually.....BUT it DOES need to be worn with confidence, but NEVER in conjunction with an Invicta!
Any watches from a brand that cuts out the middle man to bring you affordable luxury.
😂
9:46 Is that hour hand of that RM bend?
No dates on watches.
Perfect
nice job on the hostile Title and showing the SMP 300. I lunged at this video haha
Wow, spot on. I never made the connection but it’s so true. Richard Mille looks like an expensive Invicta….
And this is precisely why I cannot stand that brand , speaking about RM, the over priced Invicta!!! 😂
I just think they look like Cracker Jacks box toy watches !!!🥳
Careless wristers shouldn’t go vintage.
If you had mucked around with a perpetual calendar watch, you can save a lot of time resetting it back to the current day by chucking the crown it into a drill.
12:00 that IWC is chef’s kiss
On the conversation of vintage watches, I am hard on watches. It is just how I am no matter how careful I am. This is why I am grateful for modern retro a la Tudor Blacl Bay or Bulova Jet Star. Retro styling with modern materials and parts for servicing.
I only watch this channel because it is better than normal telly….BTW, great advice, noted but totally ignored. Please don’t mention Apple Watch and Rolex in the same video. I had to sit down for a moment after that shock!
I love your potential owner analysis. Can't stand a misaligned bezel but I can forgive Seiko at their prices.
I never wore a watch until my wife gave me a Seamaster for my 63rd birthday. 600,000,000 seconds to go. Thanks for the reminder. I hate it.
Lesson I learned the hard way as a Careless person....never take a Longines straight from an air-conditioned gym into a sauna unless you want to cry.
for this you will need a good diver
wow, what deep insights. "If youre going to hike dont wear a dress watch". ok
if you're going to live, inhale. profound.
Some of this really made me smile a lot. Was fun thanks.
Wonderful guys! You two are the best.
i’ve been dreaming of a perpetual calendar but now i’m thinking not so good idea...
In a pool with a dress watch? Sounds stupid but happened to me 😅 But the watch survived the water, 30m seem to be fine for swimming 🙈😁 Thx Navitimer, great job 👍🏻 (D33030)
5ks is utterly wrong. Bring SKX back!
People who are always late should probably not buy any watch at all !
You guys really came out with a comprehensive list of personal traits matched with appropriate wristwatch functions ! Fortunately for me highly irrational persons are not on yor list ! Thus, I am free to buy every type of watch you mentioned !
Summary is if you’re someone who is clumsy or is in an environment that has a lot of hard and sharp objects or you participate in activities that requires a lot of arm movement, don’t get anything too expensive or just get a G-shock or something similar
Casio Marlin. Done.
I am that person but also feel like no grown man (unless in the military or emergency services) should be wearing a digital watch! 😂 I stick to my 62Mas as my beater & I am a carpenter.
@@just-a-kollector1568 respectfully, I think that’s an outdated concept, G-Shocks I literally worn by all types of men, from the richest to chefs, to athletes, to people that workout at the gym, people that go on hikes, ride bicycles on park/ mountain trails, construction workers, race drivers, musicians, celebrities, the list goes on and on, there’s a reason why people into watches love G-Shocks, they’re actually perfect for a carpenter too
But... Tom... What if you are at a very civilised location, with some relaxing jazz in the background, and a tart tatin on order at a bistro café, whiksr reflecting on the perfect synchronicity of your delicate vintage watch in that setting, only to find yourself the subject of mistaken identity and the victim of robust police action? What then?!? Do you warn the arresting officers that you are wearing a vintage watch?
Thanks Tom, the image of a half naked man flailing around with his vintage Rolex has spoiled my Thanksgiving 😂
You guys are the best! Your jokes and quips never cease to amuse
Make one vid about types of person and what they watch they Should get
Thom is my favorite e-celeb right now.
To avoid all those. Get a Casio G shock solar. Solve all of them.
1) shock resistant
2) Waterproof
3) knock proof
4) washing machine proof 😂
Or not buy a watch at all, because unless you intend to lock yourself alone somewhere without electricity, a phone will tell the time, the TV will tell the time, and your boss will certainly let you know the time when you fail to turn up for work.
Here's a request: Do a video on the thinnest watches under $1000. Under $500???
Doesn't matter if they're quartz.
I've got OCD and a Seiko turtle 😂😂😂.
Unfortunately there is no “watch right for ME”. There is no automatic waterproof chronograph or GMT watch in *34/35mm* 🤷♂️
also, always ask permission to remove your watch if you are prone to being handcuffed.
Avoid buying any watches you think you may want to move on. Great time for buyers, not so much for sellers. It will only get worse in 2024.
LOL I want that Mister Jones watch.
Yeah the Breitling Emergency is really a dangerous one.
There's something perverse about paying a fortune for a watch feature you hope you'll never use.
Don't wear a flying tourbillon, when You play the harp. You will break it.
You forgot to add a minute repeater may not be the best during a zombie apocalypse either
no problem to avoid a patek, says my bank account.
Any watch out of your budget is to be avoided.
Perhaps a pessimist might find liberation in knowledge of the fundamental truth that this too shall pass. To that extent, the Accurate may bring a bit of freedom every time one glances at the watch.
Poor hublot. Every watch channel seems to pick on them😂
Let me summarize this video: Get a G-Shock.
Imp of the perverse has an older brother by the name of Call of the void - essentially a random, subconscious death wish
You should have a more interesting background.
Can we start to acknowledge that glashutte originals are better engineered than a lange? Date wheels that aren't flush for a lange money is amateur
"If you're the kind who puts hands in orifices first, and ask questions later....."
Ok. Best episode ever!
everyone should avoid hublot and invicta
Absolutely agree with Tom on date windows topic. Without additional information, like day or day and month, it tells nothing and ruins look of a dial. Especially when placed in some weird place like "on hour 4". And when there is also cyclops eye to see it better, it is even worse as it is easier to scratch something that stands out of the watch glass. One of few reasons I will never buy Rolex Sub or similar watch.
I would add only that Rolex makes a Submariner without a date complication. Very clean dial!
@@5891jonathan Oh, you're right. However, still there are other reasons not to buy this watch or even most of Rolex collection :) Like, for example, design. Most copied in the world, by "homage" brands. For Rolex price, I would want people to see I have Rolex but by buying Invicta, Steinhart or similar brand, result is the same. And Rolex on the wrist invites thieves. I like Rolex's younger brother, Tudor, though.
no wonder tom gets slapped so often and so hard at rolex ADs🤣🤣
I sold my $6,000 Omega PO because I just couldn't justify wearing it to the grocery store and gas station. Replaced it with a $1,200 Sinn 104.
Fair reason. The 104 in blue is on my radar.
Euro bills actually survive the washing machine, so I'd say they will survive the pool.
LMAO most reasons I sold my few overly expensive watches and now wear only Tudor and Omega for everyday but not buying cheap Seiko etc was listed here. OCD, don't wear watch you can't easily replace and one with forgetting about wearing a wrong watch. Still remember how years ago looking at my wrist while walking out of the ocean suddenly realizing I swam for 30 minutes wearing gold Breguet with 3 atm of water resistance. At list it was on a bracelet. Got lucky but I know a lot of people who didn't and it did cost them a lot of money.
No. 10 - The forgetful type should have been a watch I own… Guess!
Richard Mille are ugly anyway. If I was given one it'd be sold in an instant.
Avoid like the plague ANY supposed chronograph with a “24 hour” sub dial. Watch folks who are pilots will instantly know……this dude is no pilot. lol! 😂
You just won an evening with Nicholas Parsons
The remember you will die watch is great. Wearing this watch I wouldn‘t even mind dying in an accident, as in my last conscious moment I‘d think about giving the mortician a good laugh.
lol open hearts
Good advice. Thanks guys
‘10 watches I suggest you avoid if…’
FYI puppies do need looking after
Do a testing video on new and cheap Chinese tourbillon watches, like Agelocer, Aesop, Jinlery etc.
This is crap
Who?? Who is the psychopath that wears non-matching socks??? My brain melts just by thinking of an imaginary someone that does that. Travesty!!!
😂
And if you smoke don t drink petrol! 😂
If you drink petrol dont smoke
I am that guy with the socks.
Title should be: if you’re an idiot you need to think of this! Any brands shown should sue you for mis representation!
"If you're cynical and don't want to spend money on pointless watch with tourbillion, you're gonna buy apple watch"
From one pointless thing to another :)
Any watch you don’t buy without sober second thought