The part when Mindy’s boyfriend is mad because she is rich is ridiculous, I mean she is wearing a Versace necklace to sing on the street. The wardrobe doesn’t make sense
bruh it was so weird watching her prance around in elaborate designer clothes singing with her bandmates who were dressed more down to earth. Like hello you're a band? no wardrobe coordination?
I found that scene a little weird too, because it was truly no one’s business what Mindy’s financial status was. it also had nothing to do with the band . Second of all, Mindy showed up to the first performance wearing a elaborate outfit and versace necklace. So it shouldn’t be a big surprise .
I don't think those guys know fashion enough to distinguish between a Versace whatever and a thrifted or cheaper thing lmao. However her not selling any of her stuff to pay for her living in Paris makes no sense at all and isn't adressed.
Sylvie is the only character that feels like a real person to me tbh and the actress is doing such a good job. I like Mindy as well, I can't say she's super relatable but that's by design and it doesn't matter much.
There was literally no reason to bring Petra into the storyline other than to offend Ukrainians and give this horrible portrayal of eastern europeans in general. They could’ve completely skipped that character and introduce Alfie in million different ways. They had the same issue in the first season, showing the serbian model as a gold digger. I guess somebody in the team is really butthurt about Melania Trump, or something like that.
There's no reason for that character to even exist, that's true. So disappointed in Netflix and everyone involved in making the show. Ignorance all the way.
@zggg89 It should. Millions of people are watching this show right now, and that's how they're going to see Ukrainians. It's easy to say, that's just one character, it doesn't mean anything, but it does. It really does, when we're being underrepresented and misrepresented most of the time. The situation keeps getting better overall, but this writing is very harmful and super ignorant.
@zggg89 your argument is... privilege olympics? because someone else might be more privileged than you, what they say doesn't matter anymore? also not sure you got the point of the comment. you said you showed your friends the character and they didn't find it ignorant. what friends? ukrainian friends? or just some people who happen to act like the character? you said it doesn't offend you. okay? you're not ukrainian (and neither am i) so who are you to speak on their behalf? or is it just because they're white? and yet, when the first season came out, the french (who as far as i know, correct me if i'm wrong, are still predominately white) were (rightfully so) offended because the show is ignorant in every possible way and that is acceptable to you, but it's not acceptable when it's someone from somewhere you don't know much about. not sure how educated you are on the situation and past of eastern europe, my guess not very much, but it is very much different from the westn. so please, respectfully, shut the fvck up.
To be fair, the my first month moving to England, I got scammed by a Polish chick, who pretended to help me buy a train ticket. Both the receipt and ticket are printed on the same card board paper. I got to kings cross and was told what I had was the receipt 😂. I was completely shocked and narrated the ordeal, to which they were very understanding and let me through the gate. My cousin later explained the dynamics of London and what to look out for.
Am the only one who finds it ironic that Emily says "Ever since I moved to Paris my life has been dramatic and crazy and I used to be decisive" but all of the drama and craziness is her fault?? Emily lacks so much self awareness and while the show did improve, the ONE major flaw is that the main character is poorly written and unlikable with little to no depth (Lily Collins is lovely tho, no hate towards her!!). She's always talking about how she had a life planned back in Chicago, but we only ever saw like five minutes of her life beforehand? We never saw her relationship with her friends, family, or colleagues back in Chicago save for Madeline and Doug. It's so hard to feel bad for her especially when we're not shown that she's a good person, we're just told.
Yes yes yes yes yes! Wasn’t Emily all about bringing Camille and Gabriel back together at the start of the season? And then all of a sudden she is disappointed that both G & C are moving in together in the end. Gabriel pissed me off too, but Emily was hot and cold on him and confused him as well, so I’m not surprised he got back with Camille. And Camille is all of a sudden the villain according to the show and US media? Camille has every right to be angry and have revenge because she was cheated on! At least she fights for what she wants and doesn’t play hot or cold like Emily. Although if I was Camille, I would just find another guy. And just in my opinion, Alfie, Sylvie, Julien are being ruined by Emily’s craziness. They deserve better. Emily’s happy go lucky positiveness is being overshadowed by her selfishness and privilege.
can't wait to hear what you have to say there's one thing that I truly liked about the 2 season is the French language. French are finally speaking French when there's no Emily around.
I think that they did a really good job with characters speaking multiple languages without making it too weird because when you're in a multicultural environment that's what happens (?)
Both Emily and Gabriel kinda make me sick… I don’t even care what Camille does to them, imagine both your best mate and boyfriend betraying you like that, it’s disgusting and I have zero sympathy for them
@@zinab2blessa Yeah and I saw people getting mad that Camille lied about the pact and was getting back with him. Sure but let’s not forget that Emily was on her way to his flat to ALSO break the pact and confess her love for him.
i didn't understand what mindy meant when she told emily that most girls might forgive her, but not a french girl (referencing camille and the affair between emily and gabriel). i don't know who "most girls" are because i doubt many would have forgiven emily. it was just s weird way to paint the french as stubborn.
Yeah that was idiotic. What Emily did was pretty fucking nasty. I don't know anyone who would forgive her for that. They just wanted to cram in a French girl joke.
When Emily was saved from the car, and didn't say "Thank you" to the woman who saved her, it was the minute I understood that the writers hadn't learned anything. And sad part it was the first scene... Small things matters.
during that scene all i could think about was how she always calls french people rude but here she didn't even bother to say thank you. and we even saw her order a few things and she never was polite to staff and said thank you
There is a million different things they could’ve done with that character, yet they decided to be extremely offensive. There is no reason for her to be in the storyline and to act that way.
proposal for season 3: have emily go back to Chicago and just don't show her anymore. and then only follow sylvies and mindys (and maybe alfies) lifes also wasn't the whole point of emily going to paris in season 1 that she had to go because her boss couldn't go because she got pregnant? And then months later her boss goes to paris anyways? Am i the only one who thought this didn't make any sense at all?
They needed a new antagonist and they also wanted to make Emily more likeble so they get the old boss to be more of an American boss girl stereotype than Emily was. It was in a way a good idea bc it made Emily reflect a bit on her actions and how she came accross in season 1.
This is literally a plot in the season. The bigger issue may be work visas. There's no plot hole with the Madeline pregnancy can't take the job in Paris story
@zggg89 I'm sorry im confused why you think being this rude while saying/explaining nothing is necessary. i said "her only reason for going to paris was bc her boss was pregnant and therefore couldn't go" and you say thats wrong. so please explain how that statement is wrong
What did you think of Mindy's band figuring out her father was rich? I thought they were too harsh on her. Mindy is not cosplaying as poor. She is estranged from her father and is trying to carve her own way forth. She lives in a small apartment with Emily so she does not reap any benefits of having a rich father. For god sakes she sits outside a toilet for a few euros for half the season.
but then again how ridiculous is it that she doesn't need to stay in Paris but she chooses to stay there even tho she has no money and can't get a work visa
@@wonder0663 Very plausible. I didn't watch the show, but it could've went down this route: girl is raised in China, girl goes to international boarding school, girl chooses her English name and becomes Mindy
@@wonder0663 I meet a lot of international chinese students who choose a western name close to their's or just as a nick name when they move to western countries
Absolutely. They said they were going to do better, and yet they managed to offend another culture with that awful and demeaning representation of Ukrainian women. And Petra is not even a Ukrainian name. No research, just disrespect. And another hollow character, why was she there at all? To show how great Emily is?
@zggg89 repeat it 100 times more in every related thread. You are not the center of the world, you not being offended doesn't mean the feelings of others do not matter.
When Madelaine came and spoke garbage french I was genuinely confused bc I thought she had a Masters in French? Shouldn't she be fluent? Wasn't the whole reason why Sylvie was mad that Emily came to Paris instead of Madelaine was bc Emily didn't speak French but Madelaine did?
If she isn't using her French often, it can deteriorate quickly. I've left my home country a couple of years ago, now I think and study in English, so my native vocabulary and grammar have been suffering a LOT. Sometimes I need my sister or google translate to get a sentence out correctly lmao
@@ellipszilonq this is true. You can recover it but it deteriorates very quickly. I suppose it's better than someone like Emily who has literally no second language ability whatsoever.
@@ellipszilonq Maybe. I speak french fluently and while I don't get the chance to practice every day you don't just completely forget the language and start at a beginners level. I guess it depends on how long Madeline studied French and her skill level.
Emily is my least favorite character of them all. She stabbed Camille in the back, had no sense of right and wrong or what so ever, was a complete hypocrite throughout the whole 2 season, lying to Alfie and Camille, who absolutely did not deserve this anyhow. Both were kind and generous to her and showed her nothing but respect and love. Gabriel is also an awful character - playing with Camille and not respecting her feelings as if she is some kind of a toy. This is not okay people! Please stop romanticizing and normalizing betrayal! On the other hand I love Sylvie - authentic, unapologetic, intelligent woman with depth of character.
Gabriel is the main problem. He didn’t tell Emily in the first place that he had a girlfriend, who was Camille. I think if he told Emily in the first place, it wouldn’t be that difficult. Also, in the ending when Emily came to his apartment and confessed her feelings for him he didn’t tell her that Camille was in the room. And Emily was also the problem, she never told Camille that she slept with her boyfriend until Camille pointed it out. And she thought if she sends a letter to her would fix it… like how tf would it help.
The fact that the show pushes Gabriel is 🤢 I can’t believe Mathieu was written off so quickly when the Cadaults are the most interesting part for me (but not surprised I guess) 😩
I'm not easily offended at all, but Petra’s character... It was a very lazy, clueless portrayal of what a not-that-clever person would think Slavs look and behave like. This really hit me. How people don't even try to do a decent job. But well, in the universe of this TV series no adequate characters can exist anyway...
I was really disappointed by that. I mean, at first I thought, 'aww that's cute, she made a new friend' and Petra seemed adorable. Then the whole stealing thing... I don't know why they couldn't just let Emily have a new friend. She could have taught her about that part of Europe & even learn bits of another language. I liked Alfie and all but I was disappointed how Petra's character was handled.
I also disliked Gabriel. I wouldn't want to date a guy that flirts openly to any other pretty girl he finds, then cheats and doesn't care that much about it. For a 5 year old relationship it felt so empty and off. It feels sociopathic, the lack of emotion and care. And as a French speaker it's painful to hear those Americans complaining about my language and being so proud of "speaking French" but it's terrible and they make no effort, the pronunciation was so bad I had to read the subtitles to understand what they were trying to say. I like that Pierre Cadault put back the pregnant lady in her place regarding this. It was time. I never see people speaking French properly in movies or series and it annoys me so much. They are so smug about it and boast about speaking French when in reality they can just say 3 words and with such a wrong accent that it's not even understandable. It feels disrespectful. The opposite is not true, strangers always speak a perfect English and I would like for once that the people do their homework about it better
I had a French teacher in high school and even though I'm not American she was super rude. She literally called the class "stupid Americans". So there was a little rudeness there.
I was not talking about real life and how French people act regarding languages differences. I was talking about movies and series. I'm not French myself and I don't live in France (I'm Belgian, from the French speaking part). I was just talking about the fact that in movies and series, any time someone foreign needs to speak French, it's always awful but everyone pretends like it's amazing and gloat about it. That's annoying that's all, nothing dramatic, just annoying. I'm not talking at all about how French people are towards foreigners that try to speak their languages or not, or how rude they can be, that's another topic and not being French and not living there, it's not really my place to talk about. And yes the actors are truly French, that's indeed an improvement worth mentioning 👏 I'm talking about the American actors (and Mindy, her French is also awful). And yes I recognized that the pregnant lady wasn't seen as good for how she spoke, but it took such a long time. They build it up for so long as a fluent speaker that it was like a slap in the face to see again that it was bullshit (hence how nice it was when Pierre spoke up about it and it's true it wasn't represented as something positive about her in the end, the build up was just too much for the result). I was more ranting in general, I watch a lot of movies and series, all in English as my partner and I don't speak each other's language, and I see often the trope of the American person boasting and saying they speak French but in reality, just saying 3 bad sentences. It always annoys me because I like this language and I would like it better researched and taken more seriously from the producers that's all, people do the work for English after all. And it seems to have triggered a bit, I'm not saying people can't try and make mistakes, and have difficulties prononciating foreign words. Absolutely not ! Learning is hard and if you're trying you can be proud already! In real life I'm happy of anyone trying even if it's wrong sometimes, I mean I live in another country and I'm bad aswell at their language which I'm learning, I know how it is ahah. I just don't like the attitude in movies and shows. Feels generally disrespectful and not self aware about how wrong it sounds. I just want people in movies to really speak French when they say they do 😁 I guess the worst thing is when other characters are like "wow that was beautiful, so impressive that you can speak another language ", all starry eyed, whilst in reality it was gibberish ahah It's just that Emily, her Chicago boss and Mindy kinda had that attitude and their French was horrendous, barely understandable and we are supposed to believe one is almost a year in class, the other one fluent, and the other one living there for a long time working with kids (so should be able to speak their language fluent. I know she said she taught them Korean, but she must first talk to them in French for that)
I think Emily is suppose to be this annoying person and it would be funny and entertaining in my opinion, if they wouldn't constantly justify her actions. That just makes it annoying not funny at all.
Exactly. I see a lot of people say "it is satirical, you are not supposed to love her", but I think if it was really the case, they con't try to justify her actions and say she is right.
As a French girl living in Paris, I would say season 2 has definitely improved compared to season 1, even though I agree it's nowhere near perfect (or at least "as good as it had the potential to be" like you said). I would say they finally got the French characterization right this time (ex: when Madeleine say "I know you French love to say No" and Sylvie replies "Not really, it's just in the way you ask..." that is way more accurate to the French culture and it's a new take on the stereotype of French people always being mean and angry: I don't think I have seen this point of view depicted in american media before, at least). The one part that made me laugh out loud for several minutes though, is when Luke complains to Emily about the exercise bikes saying "real biking is outside along the seine, that's how we Parisians do it, and that's better!" and then 3 meters away he gets into it with another biker and they start insulting each other in french, and then he turns to Emily and waves with a big smile!!! I looooved it, that is litterally the best representation of a Parisian I have ever seen 😍 We French people are all about contradictions, and we love it!
Can we discuss Camilles parents? The mother said “ listen to me and you will get him back” and we really got nothing more about the plan. Also they were fake welcoming Emily to the chateau even though they know Emily hooked up with Gabriel
Your review is spot on. She creates all her own problems and then acts like the victim. 😂 Gabriel is trash. I don’t like Emily, but I don’t watch for her. The side characters and the setting keep me watching.
I found it so ironic that Gabriel said "I'll do it because you have done so much for me" when Emily asked him to bake 80 cakes in one night (which were btw never shown in the end or am I wrong??) although she has literally never done anything for him except cause trouble.
I just wish shows would stop pushing the wrong guy on us always. Grabriel is gross and he started the thing with Emily while he was WITH SOMEONE. Also they have no chemistry. She had more chemistry with Alfie the first 20 mins on screen together than 2 whole seasons of her and Gabriel.
when camille’s mom pulled her aside to say “i’ll help you get him back, just do exactly as I say” and then later is treating emily a little weirdly on her visit, I was expecting some big crazy dramatic plot to be schemed up. not a lie over a pinky promise? I ended up disappointed. this show is out of touch and outlandish at times and yet they couldn’t make the drama match? I expected camille’s mom’s plan would be super crazy and at some point camille would wake up and realize… gabrielle and emily aren’t even worth the effort. neither of them care about her and she could be off finding people who do. and like abandon the crazy scheme her mom planned and that would be her character growth and exit from the show. or if she didn’t leave that we would at least get some crazy drama like gabrielle thinking emily is sabotaging his work and emily getting fired/in trouble at work and threatened with having to return home. then camille would have gabrielle to herself, you know? like some actual tv drama level backstabbing and scheming
@@SerenaSkybourne Not really. Elena was a pretty sweet and lovely girl for at least 2 seasons. And she was caring and ready to sacrifice herself for her friends and family. I liked her so much for being a genuinely good person at the beginning. Then her character was sacrificed for this shitty love triangle because, obviously, you can’t string two brothers along and still be considered selfless. She honestly should have remained with Stefan, they had a cute chemistry and brought the best out of each other.
I hated how Emily treated Alfie because Alfie only asked her to be honest with him about her and Gabriel and she continuously lies to him. He even stayed in Paris to make it work with her because he is committed and believes she is as well and she's already gone through this with that guy in s1 🙄
Exactly. I don't understand why she couldn't just say she had feelings for Gabriel but they moved past it. Or she's working on her feelings etc. IMO she & Alfie have better chemistry anyways. But now that she was clearly stringing him along I hope he dumps her.
Alfie was also lying when he started asking Emily all this trust questions when he knew he was returning to London by that point. I think his character was wrong from start to beginning.
I agree with you on pretty much everything expect Alfie. I don't see the point in him as a love interest especially a long distance one. That worked out for the Chicago bf so well after all. Also just makes the show way more soapy by using a convoluted love triangel plot again. He was a good antagonist at the beggining, I loved his disinterest in Emily and Paris altogether bc sometimes it's just an annoying job you have to power true. He wasn't there for romance. He was there out of obligation and a paycheck for a few weeks. It makes sense he is not interested in making friends. Not to mention how fun it was to watch Emily humiliate herself to catch his interest. Than all of a suden whitout any change/growth on Emily's part he suddenly is interested. Oww man. What a waste. There was an opportunity to develop a slow burn love/hate relationship but instead they went with the tried old route of him falling for her. When he asked her over I know they are going to hook up. I tought ok an another poor basterd captivated by a pretty girl with shitty dating life. Then he ghosted her and that was so funny, unfortunately it didn't last long. An another wasted opportunity to teach Emily a lessons and make her reflect a bit on her choices. Insted it ends in that ridiculous long term relationship proposal. I just know he will end up like the Chicago guy. Poor sod. What Emily should do is just go back home and reflect on herself before getting into dating again. Obviously that won't happen.
Here's something from an American expat who has been living in Madrid, Spain since 2009.....over the years, I've actually met several "Emilys". Deeply unbearable rich kid babies stumbling through a year or two of "working" abroad. Oddly enough...these "Emily types" exist. It's kinda surreal.
Demonstration of a Ukrainian woman in the series offended and rooted a lot of people in my country. It was soy sed for me, because l true to learn four languages and it scares me, can people outside my country see me like that? National stereotypes are bad, they scare, because no matter how hard you try, you are still seen as a typical Petra or a trophy wife. I understand that no one represents you better than you yourself, and therefore I draw comics with Ukrainian characters, and try to write good stories, in the hope that people will be able to see not only national stereotypes.
That Shoplifting scene was one flaw of this series. But it was just intended to make people react and contribute to the controversy. They know people will Love to take offense. And they know that intelligent people will just laugh at those who whine about the stereotypes! The Show is a COMEDY! Its about pretty people, nice clothes, great sex, and cinematography. It does seek to end work hunger or promote peace. 98% of those who watch didnt even know that girl is from Ukraine and know one who enjoyed the show is dying to know where that girl is from. No one is going to think badly about Ukraine from that scene.
Well, as a slavic girl living in France I can help you feel better and tell you that I was never treated bad or seen as a stereotype. French people are NOTHING like they show them in Emily in Paris. I was shocked when I was watching this show becouse it looks like producers never went to France and have deep hatered towards other nationalities other then American. I have never met one rude person here- people are so polite, so helpful and it is a country full of diversity. No one cares how you look like, where are you from, everybody minds their own business, they are very friendly and they love to show foreigners their country, food and help with learning French language. They are also very open to other cultures and like to ask about your culture to learn and NOT just decide based on stereotypes like in this disgusting show. In my experiance out of 5 people on the street 3 will be foreigners and 2 would be French, that is how diverse it is here. I am seen here just as a European, not slavic or thropy wife or anything like that. Furthermore, my fiance is from Middle East and he never felt any racism or bad treatment here, not once, he really enjoys living in France.
@@TacticusPrime with respect, I don’t know what this thread is but “tell me you don’t know racism is without … oh wait sorry… that’s just your comment” ✨
@@zgirlbrooks101 Emily getting away with her bullshit has nothing to do with being white. French people are white. Claiming that it's about her being white, instead of an attractive thin woman, is racist.
I really wanted to like Alfie but he was such an embarrassing English stereotype. Beer, pubs, football. His British language use was not even genuine- no one would use "love" like he did. It felt insincere and clunky. Most problems with season 2 were repeated from season 1- why didn't the writers/producers learn their lesson!
I love Sylvie...she reads TF out of Emily. The funniest part was when Emily wrote that stupid letter to Cammie and it didn't make sense, then Cammie wrote a better one back. Emily being so invested in a relationship with Cammie, someone she just met, doesn't make sense. I agree tho, this show is fun but it could be better with some tweaks.
Omg, I have said this so many times. Emily is so frustratingly unlikeable!!!!!!! I have tried - really tried with all my cold, cold heart - to like her from all kinds of perspectives and to exercise lots of empathy. But by the good graces of all the goods, I fucking do not like her no matter how many sweet smiles she gives everyone. I don't hate her, but she is so hard to like or even respect. It's like that girl you just don't wanna be around - not in a hateful way but in a "nah, i don't have time and energy to give this person". Honestly, Sylvie's story is way more interesting. At this point, I just glaze over Emily and Mindy's sub-plot; the two of them are the most boring characters ever. I literally fast-forwarded all the Mindy singing, an absolute waste of production money and time in every episode. Someone just make the series about the agency with Sylvie Grateau at the helm already!
i feel the same way. it would also be different if the show wanted us to hate emily. but no. they think emily is this nice girl who does nothing wrong and the writers of the show seem to think we would like her.
Ok. I am happy to see this video because I just watched all the episodes and something small but in my opinion, important draw my attention. Camille's teeth are not perfectly white! I know, I know, it's not a big deal but to me, she's the only character who looks... Real. I find the other young characters so fancy, super well dressed in out-of-this-world outfits. Somehow Camille is the only one who seems... Real. Her makeup seems to sometimes be less than perfect, she dresses chick but not over the top, her teeth are not all white and perfect...
I know this show is problematic but it is so bingeable and easy to watch. I was also a little sad that when the guy in Mindy's band turned out to not be gay. I want Julien to get a boyfriend.
I love your review. This is exactly what I thought of after watching the show. Everything! From Emily being ditsy & gullible and Camille being likeable to stooping down to her level. My controversial comments here: Why does Alfie like a less hot version of Simon Basset Duke of Hastings in Bridgerton? I know everybody likes Mindy, but I don’t. I mean, she’s also persuading Emily in taking Gabriel back. In the last episode, she said something like “follow your heart.” She’s a friend of Camille yet sides with Emily most of the time, not rationalizing what Camille would feel. On the contrary, I like that she warned Emily that French girls are unforgiving and “why the heck did you invite camille in your vacation with Matthieu.”
yea and sometimes mindy kinda badmouth cami and being shady. idk i dont like mindy, if you see your friend gets lied to, im sure you’d want to tell them even if it costs u another friendship. it just seems so bad
I feel like the french people actually spoke more french than in season 1 which I enjoyed very much. The only reason why I kinda like Emily is because of how likable Lily Collins is to me. Otherwise the character is hella annoying and also not as nice as they keep telling us. I saw videos and comments were people shamed Camille for humiliating Emily on her birthday and breaking the pact. It's unbelievable to me how people see Camille as a villian now. They seem to forget that 1) she was the one who got betrayed by her boyfriend and friend and 2) Emily was about to break the pact herself when she showed up on his door. Camille was just faster. Also how Emily tried to keep Camille for moving on just because she was feeling bad - how selfish can u be. Also Mathieu had the best scene when he left Emily on the train. He was so right! Even we didn't see much of him that season, this made me respect him so much. The most interesting character on the show imo is Sylvie, although I don't get the situation with her still-husband.
I think sylvie has an open relationship with her husband. She mentioned how he also takes lovers in st.tropez, which made me respect their relationship cuz of the way they still love and care for one another even if they’re involved with other ppl
My daughter has been living in Paris going to Parson and the French are completely, hands down beautiful, kind and we can learn a lot from them! We need to stop being so loud, shallow and stupid. Emily is extremely unlikeable, her expressions ect………
Emily going: no he still loves you, hold on to hope" is this typical toxic positivity and guilt, where you think you help a person and don't hurt them, but in the end it might hurt them even more AND it hurts yourself (As we ve seen in the end of season 2)
The character of Emily comes across as a bit of a sociopath. Awful. The way she plays and uses the guys too. She has zero remorse over Camille too, if she did it doesn’t project from the actors performance. Can’t she also see she’s using Alfie. Does the character have zero ability to see that it’s wrong to use people like that? A narc? Sociopath? Extremely unrealistic too, the tiny apartment but huge expensive wardrobe of costume changes that there’s no room to store in the tiny apartment lol! By the end of a series 3, some character is going to take a hit out on her! 🤣 Best character is for sure Sylvie. Stunning effortless gorgeous older woman. But yeah, really awful cheesy writing!!
@@zinab2blessa Given that the main producer (or director?) is the same as for SATC, it just shows he is still as delusional as ever. It was the exact same thing with Carrie being a single woman living in her own apartment in NY writing a blog (or whatever her job was) and buying Louis Vuittons and Manolo Blahniks. That version of reality simply doesn't exist but they just gloss over it bc they want to have the characters in expensive clothes.
As people mentioned- same with Carrey from Sex and the city which made me suspicious of creators of these shows being sociopaths. They obviously can not write good hearted lead woman and don't understand when to punish bad behaviour in the series, justify cheating, lying... Camille said it best in her letter- Emily is an illiterate sociopath.
Thank you for this i spent the entire time watching Emily in paris just hating emily lol. She is a terrible friend and a terrible girlfriend. The only good thing about this season is that they developed Sylvie and Mindy's character a little bit i found myself wanting to fast forward through all her scenes she is such a boring and annoying character which is not how you should feel about the main character.
it was nice to get some immersion via the language and be reminded that we are in paris. I dont know if this was filmed during the pandemic or half and half but nothing was fully developed especially the plot line for the show. the most exciting part for me was the last episode and when Gabriel mentioned his dish with tripe saying it came from his hometown. Im not sure if that is a true statement regarding dish itself, but it would be nice to explore french culture through food especially since he is a chief. there is so much to explore there and give the audience a bit of a better look into the culture, instead of the usual "we use fresh in season ingredients" as a copout. I have these same feelings regarding the fashion aspect. Very underutilized to the extent that it can be. Mainly I didn't really care for her relationship troubles etc. Obviously its not supposed to be some hard hitting drama/comedy, but could still use some more thoughtout then the very obvious amercian v french narrative. IDK ill probably continue to watch but i hope some changes are made.
Omg thank you for saying that about Elaina, I cannot stand her and I never got why I was supposed to be on her team!! Also, love your hair in this video!
Sorry for my English. It’s not perfect. The most annoying thing for me was as Alfie told Emily that he’s staying in Paris longer cause he’s serious about their relationship and she should be honest with him and she gives him the feeling that she’s on the same page and then few days later she wants to get back with Gabriel. I don’t get it! Maybe we’re gonna see Emily decide to leave Paris but she’s gonna come back after a short time
I never thought of having to watch Emily and think that I had to like her just because she was a woman, but you’re absolutely right about having to support her as a main character and keep portraying her as good. I think the reason Emily‘s actions are so jarring is because she’s supposed to be the main character and since childhood the main characters in all of our story books have been good people and defenders of justice and righteousness. Our main characters do the right thing to the best of their ability and learn their lesson and except accountability. I actually find it very refreshing to have a protagonist that’s just a bad person. A protagonist is only that, a protagonist. Maybe we should just change that term to main character because by naming someone a PROtagonist that must mean that there must be an ANtagonist in which the writers have made everyone else to get in the way of what Emily wants. Not every main character has to be liked, not every main character has to be a model citizen. But now that you mention it, is she truly that awful of a person or is it because she’s a woman that she gets so much more vitriol than if she were a man? Buuuuut, I’ve been watching a lot of videos and everyone pretty much agrees that Gabriel is a pretty awful person too so I’m glad that there’s no double standard when it comes to how bad they are as people.
Thank you so much for paying attention and acknowledging that awful and demeaning representation of Ukrainian women. They said they were going to do better, and yet they managed to offend another culture. And Petra is not even a Ukrainian name. No research, just disrespect from the creators. Thank you for the review!
One of the most unrealistic things in this season (that I haven’t watch but every woman will tell you same things) is how the f three woman walk alone at night will wearing glitters all over them and are not scared ? Like one of the biggest problems for woman here right now are how much we get catcalled, drudged and r*ped and never this situation will happen without them being at least a little bit stressed out. So here they talk about how much « mean » we are but not of real social issues ? Sorry I’m getting a little bit heated but it’s important we talk about this stuff.
this!! me and my little sibling (both afab) got lost the other day and had to walk like three hours at night and i was terrified. didn’t let go of my pepper spray the whole time
Omg, I'm so glad to watch your review , I totally agree with you! The S2 was an equally shitshow, I hated the over draggy love triangle, all 3 of them were absolutely unlikeable.
@zggg89 it was created by Kenny Ortega (He did High School Musical) and it was a nice little teen show. Julie’s mom died which affected her relationship with music. But she starts seeing ghosts of this boy band for some reason and they start making music. And for some reason everyone can see the band when they perform on stage. It was a good show and they did promise Season 2 but I think the pandemic got in the way.
@zggg89 I think the problem with Emily in Paris is most of the characters. I think Emily is an antihero like Carrie Bradshaw. And it’s just a bad representation of French people. The RUclipsr Serena mentions in the video is French and he did his own video on Emily in Paris. This is all just easily digestible tv for me. My fav show, Prodigal Son, got cancelled on Fox. Fox is having a terrible track record with me. First Lucifer and now Prodigal Son. 🤦🏽♀️
About to start watching!! I am so excited about this video! I do think they actually improved since season 1 so I can't wait to hear what you have to say about it!!
Just watched! You have so many great points, and I definitely agree with a lot of it. I still love this show so much just because it's entertaining and fun and provides escapism. I've seen the season twice. :D
So glad you noticed and mentioned this strange moments with Ukrainian girl. I’m from Ukraine and was really feeling uncomfortable with them making her a thief (and talking in Ukrainian🤦♀️) And fun fact, name Petra doesn’t even exist in Ukrainian. Would be cool if they used google to find something real 😂 By the way, I really enjoy your videos 😍, they are so great ❤️
It's not even a stereotype, it's just wrong and offensive. There was no reason for that character to even exist. So disappointed in Netflix and everyone involved in making the show. Ignorance all the way.
The season is a waste of Kate Walsch. Her character was sold as the perfect fit for french culture in season 1. But they turned her into a loud tacky frappucino sucker for no reason.
It’s just so bizarre because it’s so bad it’s like there’s no way the writers can’t be self aware, so you’re constantly expecting them to turn things around and when they do something halfway decent you think “this is it! Maybe it’s not so bad” and then they just completely fail again. So strange
Idk I still think the show is meant to be a lot less deep than people are making it out to be it clearly isn’t here to teach us about French culture or any woke topics it is here to depict a spoiled girl and her fantasy life in a fantasy Paris. It’s like sex and the city and how ignorant those girls are idk why Emily gets so much hate. Her plot with Gabriel is annoying because he is annoying and he was clearly playing them both and almost wanting to have them both at once. I can understand why she didn’t instantly know what to do I mean she had a crush on the bf of a girl she genuinely liked and got caught in it and didn’t know how to get out. She did drag it in way too long and the trying to get them back together was almost more salt on the wound like girl just walk away. But I’m glad you mentioned how unlikable Gabriel is because I’ve hated him since the start. He treats Camille like he doesn’t care about her at all but then keeps going back to her when he can’t get Emily. I do think the characters were given a bit more depth this season but again it is meant to just be a silly light watch and I’m ok with that. I also like the fashion again like in sex and the city the girls always dressed sort of flamboyant and nobody criticized that. I really don’t get it like people will put up with a show like shameless where all the characters constantly make the worst possible decisions for seemingly no reason but everyone loves and praises them but they absolutely hate Emily... just make me think is a bit hateful. Overall I would give it a 5/10 I mean it’s not meant to be a masterpiece just a light entertaining show that is quick to get through and I will probably watch it til the end.
As much as I love to lazily watch this show, there are too many instances where I cannot ignore the horrid writing. I don’t understand why Emily is forcing the friendship with Camille, she needs to take accountability and walk away from the friendship. I just did not find it realistic.I also did not understand how we were supposed to believe she went away on a paid trip with some friends, instead of going on the vacation, then we find Slyvie and her husband mysteriously at the same location. I think the writers could have found an easier way to introduce that relationship. The French class and instance with Petra…. Where do I begin?!?!
And so outdated! What is going on in this show, it is fashion based and so many stylists yet everything looks like its year 2011! I just don't understand.
For me also ridiculous is that in the show characters (especially Emily) wear extravagance, "chic", elegant cloth (like from the red carpet (every time)). There are no cosy cloth, basic t-shirt and jeans. I know that there are working for a luxury French marketing company, but still (even Kate Middelton wear jeans).
I am a ukrainian, and this show made me feel so mad and sad... We are not like that. We are fighting for our freedom and good representation of our country for over 30 years (as well as other slav countries), and then they give us this... it's insulting...
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What’s annoying me most is that although two people (Gabriel and Emily) were involved in cheating on Camille, only the girl is made responsible for that. What about Gabriel? Nobody questions his behaviour, he just seems to be neutral, while two women are fighting over his unfaithful personality. The show even represents him as if he was a prize to win. I don’t like that Camille is even trying to win him back. She deserves so much better. While there are many cliches they brought on this show, there‘s also the internalised misogyny in our society that’s portrayed so accurately. They could have done better.
I've only watched 12 minutes of S2s1 (could not make it through) and I already understood everything and am on the same page as you for all these 40 mins :) I also saw a poster of Emily & Alfie, which looked like the makers of the series were trying to create a 'team Gabriel' and 'team Alfie' 🤦♀
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Can we also talk about the fact that Emily was trying to get Camille and Gabriel back together ONLY because she knew she was going to be leaving Paris? She was constantly giving Camille hope that they will get back together but as soon as she finds out she may be staying in Paris she goes to get her man Gabriel and has the audacity to actually act hurt when she sees that Camille and Gabriel got back together. Like she instantly went to get him not caring about Camille one bit even though she had been giving her all this hope? What a shitty thing to do.
At some point during the restaurant launch, Camille offered to ´help´ by serving the guests some Champere, which I thought would be an obvious ploy of her to sabotage the launch, since it´s been made clear over and over again that the champagne is gross as hell. But it never went anywhere!!! That just seems like such inconsistent writing. Boo. Also the band never noticed Mindy was always wearing super expensive designer clothing? Yeah right.
Funny how nobody talks about the show still treating an adult woman having sexual reactions with an underage child is wrong. If Emily was a twenty year old man named, Emile and slept with a 15 year old girl it'd be a whole different thing. God hypocrisy pisses me off.
Spoilers (obviously) Some positives: 1) I did appreciate they were using the French language more. 2) I liked learning a little more about the other characters. 3) I liked that Camille didn't forgive Emily right away. 4) I really liked that they made Madeline look brutish & rude. Was it intentional? I don't know but she really was rude so that made the French characters look even more likeable. 5) I like that Sylvie took control and is going to create a new company. Power move. Now... I do find Emily annoying for many of the reasons you mentioned. After Camille found out about them she had asked about Emily's feelings and she lied again. She should have at least at that point said she had mixed feelings or something. Be honest because at that point she had to. So now is this stupid love triangle going to be dragged out to season 3? And I hate Gabriel as a character now... I liked him in the first few episodes of season 1 but as soon as they made him a love interest I got bored. Lost interest in him by the end of season 1. Now I too find him kinda gross. I like Alfie's character but hate that they had Emily strung him along. Their relationship started so truthful too and then of course they had to just string him along. So sick of shows doing that. I really liked Petra's character at the beginning. She was adorable. The shoplifting thing was stupid. I mean...WHY. Why couldn't they have just done a weird misunderstanding like their crappy french Petra thinks Emily offered to pay or something and walks out with something....or vice versa then they take stuff back and it becomes a funny story at the start of a new friendship. A friendship which would have let Emily understand more about the world & that part of Europe & possibly learn a little of the Slavic language. But NO they had to just do a cheap shoplifting storyline... gag me. I also hate that everyone falls in love with Emily. She's not likeable. Also, does Emily have any friends in the USA? We never had even a glimpse of her friends there. No phone conversations...no friends coming to visit. And she doesn't ever talk about being home sick or is ever seen talking to her parents. Nothing. I think that's a big mistake because love her or hate her, seeing those things would humanize her more. Lazy writing
@@SerenaSkybourne I’m back. Honestly Gabriel’s awful haircut really matched his awful personality in this season 😬 And i defs think Camille has something planned to sabotage Emily because didnt Cami’s mum say “do exactly as i say” or something?!?! Like for sure she’s plotting something. I’m sad that she didnt let it go because that would really highlight how Cami is mature and wronged and Emily did the wrong thing and betrayed a friend instead of transforming Emily into a victim?? Like i think they will use Camille’s revenge to make Emily seem like the victim instead of the backstabber who slept with her friends bf behind her back. Also - I’m from Europe so i get it but i found that sauna scene so weird. Like did it serve any purpose??? I dont understand. My boyfriend and i loved Alfie and he functioned to make us hate Emily more..?? Like her playing with his feelings while she clearly still wants Gabriel. Mindy and Sylvie are defs my favourite characters. Gabriel is such an awful character. How can Emily be attracted to a guy that would stay with his ex out of convenience?? Like he’ll stay with Camille because there’s no one better rather than be honest that he’s not in love anymore. That is so weak. ALSO it bothered me so much when the cast spoke English when they were all French speakers and there were no native english speakers around. Overall its enjoyable but in that trashy fun way not in that jaw dropping existential well written way. :)
Mindy’s storyline was dull af. I also don’t like her singing voice. And yes the wardrobe’s don’t make sense! Why would you wear super expensive clothes and not pay rent to your friend for living at her place 😂
honestly! They were probably already hers before she was cut off by her dad but girl...sell them! A few thousand euros get you at least a little far, even in Paris
Hello, first time watching your video, it was a great and fair review. English is not my first language but I really like the way how you speak and articulate things, your explanation was very clear and straight to the point. Keep up the good work👌
I'm so sorry but I don't know why I'm keep getting distracted when I'm watching straight looking at the screen, cant concentrate but I'm trying very hard.
Ok the love triangle or is it love square? This is Darren Star doing a discount version of sex and the city in Paris. Emily is Carrie. Gabriel is Big. Camille is Natasha (who deserves better). Wish she just moved on from Gabriel completely. Alfie is Aidan. Now we have to deal with this back and forth for 4 more seasons. I ship Camille and Mathieu at this point. There is a good story there, but the writing is not focused on good stories. The three characters I like Camille, Luke, and Mathieu. I liked Emily at first until I saw all of Carrie’s bad qualities in her and I stopped caring.
I just started the video, but I've been watching a bit recently and I genuinely can't tell if you're British or Australian. You have an aussie twang to your voice, but also have British inflections 😂
Also WHY did I have to hear Mindy sing EVERY GOD DAMN EPISODE? Last time I checked this wasn't HSM. It took me out the show every single time. Idc THAT much about her to hear her open her gob every episode!
The part when Mindy’s boyfriend is mad because she is rich is ridiculous, I mean she is wearing a Versace necklace to sing on the street. The wardrobe doesn’t make sense
Right, she cant afford rent but she can afford an elaborate wardrobe, smh
I agree. I thought it was so weird for her to have this many expensive clothes and not being able to pay a little bit of rent 😂
bruh it was so weird watching her prance around in elaborate designer clothes singing with her bandmates who were dressed more down to earth. Like hello you're a band? no wardrobe coordination?
I found that scene a little weird too, because it was truly no one’s business what Mindy’s financial status was. it also had nothing to do with the band . Second of all, Mindy showed up to the first performance wearing a elaborate outfit and versace necklace. So it shouldn’t be a big surprise .
I don't think those guys know fashion enough to distinguish between a Versace whatever and a thrifted or cheaper thing lmao. However her not selling any of her stuff to pay for her living in Paris makes no sense at all and isn't adressed.
Sylvie is the only character that feels like a real person to me tbh and the actress is doing such a good job. I like Mindy as well, I can't say she's super relatable but that's by design and it doesn't matter much.
Imagine if the show was from her POV. Would that be an interesting story?
I love Sylvie!
Sylvia’s storyline stole the show! ❤️
She’s too much of a copycat of Miranda Presley from Devil Wears Prada to me 🙈
@@diamondcentury21 how so?
There was literally no reason to bring Petra into the storyline other than to offend Ukrainians and give this horrible portrayal of eastern europeans in general. They could’ve completely skipped that character and introduce Alfie in million different ways. They had the same issue in the first season, showing the serbian model as a gold digger. I guess somebody in the team is really butthurt about Melania Trump, or something like that.
There's no reason for that character to even exist, that's true. So disappointed in Netflix and everyone involved in making the show. Ignorance all the way.
@zggg89 It should. Millions of people are watching this show right now, and that's how they're going to see Ukrainians. It's easy to say, that's just one character, it doesn't mean anything, but it does. It really does, when we're being underrepresented and misrepresented most of the time. The situation keeps getting better overall, but this writing is very harmful and super ignorant.
@zggg89 Ah yes, you know someone who knows someone. Classic.
@zggg89 your argument is... privilege olympics? because someone else might be more privileged than you, what they say doesn't matter anymore? also not sure you got the point of the comment. you said you showed your friends the character and they didn't find it ignorant. what friends? ukrainian friends? or just some people who happen to act like the character? you said it doesn't offend you. okay? you're not ukrainian (and neither am i) so who are you to speak on their behalf? or is it just because they're white? and yet, when the first season came out, the french (who as far as i know, correct me if i'm wrong, are still predominately white) were (rightfully so) offended because the show is ignorant in every possible way and that is acceptable to you, but it's not acceptable when it's someone from somewhere you don't know much about. not sure how educated you are on the situation and past of eastern europe, my guess not very much, but it is very much different from the westn. so please, respectfully, shut the fvck up.
To be fair, the my first month moving to England, I got scammed by a Polish chick, who pretended to help me buy a train ticket. Both the receipt and ticket are printed on the same card board paper. I got to kings cross and was told what I had was the receipt 😂. I was completely shocked and narrated the ordeal, to which they were very understanding and let me through the gate. My cousin later explained the dynamics of London and what to look out for.
Am the only one who finds it ironic that Emily says "Ever since I moved to Paris my life has been dramatic and crazy and I used to be decisive" but all of the drama and craziness is her fault?? Emily lacks so much self awareness and while the show did improve, the ONE major flaw is that the main character is poorly written and unlikable with little to no depth (Lily Collins is lovely tho, no hate towards her!!). She's always talking about how she had a life planned back in Chicago, but we only ever saw like five minutes of her life beforehand? We never saw her relationship with her friends, family, or colleagues back in Chicago save for Madeline and Doug. It's so hard to feel bad for her especially when we're not shown that she's a good person, we're just told.
I agree
YES EXACTLY THIS!!
Yes yes yes yes yes! Wasn’t Emily all about bringing Camille and Gabriel back together at the start of the season? And then all of a sudden she is disappointed that both G & C are moving in together in the end. Gabriel pissed me off too, but Emily was hot and cold on him and confused him as well, so I’m not surprised he got back with Camille. And Camille is all of a sudden the villain according to the show and US media? Camille has every right to be angry and have revenge because she was cheated on! At least she fights for what she wants and doesn’t play hot or cold like Emily. Although if I was Camille, I would just find another guy. And just in my opinion, Alfie, Sylvie, Julien are being ruined by Emily’s craziness. They deserve better. Emily’s happy go lucky positiveness is being overshadowed by her selfishness and privilege.
can't wait to hear what you have to say
there's one thing that I truly liked about the 2 season is the French language. French are finally speaking French when there's no Emily around.
finally!!
Agreend and it feels like that is the only criticism they decided to properly remedy from season 1.
I think that they did a really good job with characters speaking multiple languages without making it too weird because when you're in a multicultural environment that's what happens (?)
Both Emily and Gabriel kinda make me sick… I don’t even care what Camille does to them, imagine both your best mate and boyfriend betraying you like that, it’s disgusting and I have zero sympathy for them
its so gross
Totally agree
I was hoping Camille would get revenge by getting with Alfie or telling Alfie about her and Gabriel 🤣
@@zinab2blessa Yeah and I saw people getting mad that Camille lied about the pact and was getting back with him. Sure but let’s not forget that Emily was on her way to his flat to ALSO break the pact and confess her love for him.
They are a pair of arseholes who deserve each other. I can’t believe Camie took him back… I’d walk away in a nano second.
i didn't understand what mindy meant when she told emily that most girls might forgive her, but not a french girl (referencing camille and the affair between emily and gabriel). i don't know who "most girls" are because i doubt many would have forgiven emily. it was just s weird way to paint the french as stubborn.
And Camille had every right to be mad at her “friend and boyfriend” for falling for each other and sleeping together behind her back 😭
Yeah that was idiotic. What Emily did was pretty fucking nasty. I don't know anyone who would forgive her for that. They just wanted to cram in a French girl joke.
When Emily was saved from the car, and didn't say "Thank you" to the woman who saved her, it was the minute I understood that the writers hadn't learned anything. And sad part it was the first scene... Small things matters.
omg i forgot about that!
That person literally just saved her life!
during that scene all i could think about was how she always calls french people rude but here she didn't even bother to say thank you. and we even saw her order a few things and she never was polite to staff and said thank you
@zggg89 girl, I live in Moscow, with population around 20 millions and people have common decency. I guess it suck living in New York…
Yes yes yes! 👏
I am Ukrainian and I can say for sure that portrayal of Petra is offensive
Yes! God, that was just disgusting. It's like they thought 'we can't do this ignorant thing, so we're gonna do something worse'
Yeah :/ and she was actually a better language partner than Alfie
There is a million different things they could’ve done with that character, yet they decided to be extremely offensive. There is no reason for her to be in the storyline and to act that way.
@zggg89 So what now you can offend people if you do it quickly?
@zggg89 because she was actually speaking French to her while Alfie spoke to her in English.
Julien and Luc are so underrated and they, along with Sylvie, basically carried the entire show
Ikr Luc was especially my favorite
Exactly they are the reason why i still watch the show
proposal for season 3: have emily go back to Chicago and just don't show her anymore. and then only follow sylvies and mindys (and maybe alfies) lifes
also wasn't the whole point of emily going to paris in season 1 that she had to go because her boss couldn't go because she got pregnant? And then months later her boss goes to paris anyways? Am i the only one who thought this didn't make any sense at all?
They needed a new antagonist and they also wanted to make Emily more likeble so they get the old boss to be more of an American boss girl stereotype than Emily was. It was in a way a good idea bc it made Emily reflect a bit on her actions and how she came accross in season 1.
@zggg89 no the whole reason she went to paris on such short notice was because her boss couldn't go.
This is literally a plot in the season. The bigger issue may be work visas. There's no plot hole with the Madeline pregnancy can't take the job in Paris story
@@WinterWind yes no plot hole maybe but i just feel like it makes no sense at all?
@zggg89 I'm sorry im confused why you think being this rude while saying/explaining nothing is necessary. i said "her only reason for going to paris was bc her boss was pregnant and therefore couldn't go" and you say thats wrong. so please explain how that statement is wrong
What did you think of Mindy's band figuring out her father was rich? I thought they were too harsh on her. Mindy is not cosplaying as poor. She is estranged from her father and is trying to carve her own way forth. She lives in a small apartment with Emily so she does not reap any benefits of having a rich father. For god sakes she sits outside a toilet for a few euros for half the season.
What kinda chinese born and raised girl is named mindy anyways
but then again how ridiculous is it that she doesn't need to stay in Paris but she chooses to stay there even tho she has no money and can't get a work visa
@@wonder0663 Very plausible. I didn't watch the show, but it could've went down this route: girl is raised in China, girl goes to international boarding school, girl chooses her English name and becomes Mindy
@@wonder0663 I meet a lot of international chinese students who choose a western name close to their's or just as a nick name when they move to western countries
Also that apartment isn't affordable or cheap by any means, even splitting rent on that one would cost you a fortune.
The portrayal of the Ukrainian character was so bad that I was offended on behalf of all Slavic people (i'm Polish)
I'm so sorry, I'm French and was offended for that too
Absolutely. They said they were going to do better, and yet they managed to offend another culture with that awful and demeaning representation of Ukrainian women. And Petra is not even a Ukrainian name. No research, just disrespect. And another hollow character, why was she there at all? To show how great Emily is?
@zggg89 repeat it 100 times more in every related thread. You are not the center of the world, you not being offended doesn't mean the feelings of others do not matter.
@zggg89 and who are you?
I'm Hungarian with negative experiences with some Ukrainan people and even I was offended
When Madelaine came and spoke garbage french I was genuinely confused bc I thought she had a Masters in French? Shouldn't she be fluent? Wasn't the whole reason why Sylvie was mad that Emily came to Paris instead of Madelaine was bc Emily didn't speak French but Madelaine did?
That confused me too
If she isn't using her French often, it can deteriorate quickly. I've left my home country a couple of years ago, now I think and study in English, so my native vocabulary and grammar have been suffering a LOT. Sometimes I need my sister or google translate to get a sentence out correctly lmao
@@ellipszilonq this is true. You can recover it but it deteriorates very quickly. I suppose it's better than someone like Emily who has literally no second language ability whatsoever.
It could be an American stereotype (which we don't know exists) of faking their CV? Or Madeleine is delusional on her skills.
@@ellipszilonq Maybe. I speak french fluently and while I don't get the chance to practice every day you don't just completely forget the language and start at a beginners level. I guess it depends on how long Madeline studied French and her skill level.
Emily is my least favorite character of them all. She stabbed Camille in the back, had no sense of right and wrong or what so ever, was a complete hypocrite throughout the whole 2 season, lying to Alfie and Camille, who absolutely did not deserve this anyhow. Both were kind and generous to her and showed her nothing but respect and love. Gabriel is also an awful character - playing with Camille and not respecting her feelings as if she is some kind of a toy. This is not okay people! Please stop romanticizing and normalizing betrayal!
On the other hand I love Sylvie - authentic, unapologetic, intelligent woman with depth of character.
Gabriel is the main problem. He didn’t tell Emily in the first place that he had a girlfriend, who was Camille. I think if he told Emily in the first place, it wouldn’t be that difficult. Also, in the ending when Emily came to his apartment and confessed her feelings for him he didn’t tell her that Camille was in the room. And Emily was also the problem, she never told Camille that she slept with her boyfriend until Camille pointed it out. And she thought if she sends a letter to her would fix it… like how tf would it help.
The fact that the show pushes Gabriel is 🤢
I can’t believe Mathieu was written off so quickly when the Cadaults are the most interesting part for me (but not surprised I guess) 😩
Mathieu was the only mature one with proper boundaries and developed self esteem in the whole damn show rest of them act like highschoolers
I'm not easily offended at all, but Petra’s character... It was a very lazy, clueless portrayal of what a not-that-clever person would think Slavs look and behave like. This really hit me. How people don't even try to do a decent job. But well, in the universe of this TV series no adequate characters can exist anyway...
I was really disappointed by that. I mean, at first I thought, 'aww that's cute, she made a new friend' and Petra seemed adorable. Then the whole stealing thing... I don't know why they couldn't just let Emily have a new friend. She could have taught her about that part of Europe & even learn bits of another language. I liked Alfie and all but I was disappointed how Petra's character was handled.
Even Dorota was better written and she was a maid.
I also disliked Gabriel. I wouldn't want to date a guy that flirts openly to any other pretty girl he finds, then cheats and doesn't care that much about it. For a 5 year old relationship it felt so empty and off. It feels sociopathic, the lack of emotion and care.
And as a French speaker it's painful to hear those Americans complaining about my language and being so proud of "speaking French" but it's terrible and they make no effort, the pronunciation was so bad I had to read the subtitles to understand what they were trying to say. I like that Pierre Cadault put back the pregnant lady in her place regarding this. It was time. I never see people speaking French properly in movies or series and it annoys me so much. They are so smug about it and boast about speaking French when in reality they can just say 3 words and with such a wrong accent that it's not even understandable. It feels disrespectful. The opposite is not true, strangers always speak a perfect English and I would like for once that the people do their homework about it better
it’s strange tho that you aren’t expected to learn even a word of other languages when you visit there, particularly eastern countries
Et quand Madeline reprend Sylvie parce que soi disant elle parlait français trop vite, tout en parlant encore plus vite en anglais🙄aucun respect
I had a French teacher in high school and even though I'm not American she was super rude. She literally called the class "stupid Americans". So there was a little rudeness there.
Wait the actors who play french people arent french actors? I thought they were😱
I was not talking about real life and how French people act regarding languages differences. I was talking about movies and series. I'm not French myself and I don't live in France (I'm Belgian, from the French speaking part). I was just talking about the fact that in movies and series, any time someone foreign needs to speak French, it's always awful but everyone pretends like it's amazing and gloat about it. That's annoying that's all, nothing dramatic, just annoying.
I'm not talking at all about how French people are towards foreigners that try to speak their languages or not, or how rude they can be, that's another topic and not being French and not living there, it's not really my place to talk about.
And yes the actors are truly French, that's indeed an improvement worth mentioning 👏 I'm talking about the American actors (and Mindy, her French is also awful).
And yes I recognized that the pregnant lady wasn't seen as good for how she spoke, but it took such a long time. They build it up for so long as a fluent speaker that it was like a slap in the face to see again that it was bullshit (hence how nice it was when Pierre spoke up about it and it's true it wasn't represented as something positive about her in the end, the build up was just too much for the result).
I was more ranting in general, I watch a lot of movies and series, all in English as my partner and I don't speak each other's language, and I see often the trope of the American person boasting and saying they speak French but in reality, just saying 3 bad sentences. It always annoys me because I like this language and I would like it better researched and taken more seriously from the producers that's all, people do the work for English after all.
And it seems to have triggered a bit, I'm not saying people can't try and make mistakes, and have difficulties prononciating foreign words. Absolutely not ! Learning is hard and if you're trying you can be proud already! In real life I'm happy of anyone trying even if it's wrong sometimes, I mean I live in another country and I'm bad aswell at their language which I'm learning, I know how it is ahah. I just don't like the attitude in movies and shows. Feels generally disrespectful and not self aware about how wrong it sounds. I just want people in movies to really speak French when they say they do 😁 I guess the worst thing is when other characters are like "wow that was beautiful, so impressive that you can speak another language ", all starry eyed, whilst in reality it was gibberish ahah
It's just that Emily, her Chicago boss and Mindy kinda had that attitude and their French was horrendous, barely understandable and we are supposed to believe one is almost a year in class, the other one fluent, and the other one living there for a long time working with kids (so should be able to speak their language fluent. I know she said she taught them Korean, but she must first talk to them in French for that)
I think Emily is suppose to be this annoying person and it would be funny and entertaining in my opinion, if they wouldn't constantly justify her actions. That just makes it annoying not funny at all.
I think the problem is that the writers want us to like her and feel kinda bad for her but to us she just comes off like an annoying idiot😂
Exactly. I see a lot of people say "it is satirical, you are not supposed to love her", but I think if it was really the case, they con't try to justify her actions and say she is right.
As a French girl living in Paris, I would say season 2 has definitely improved compared to season 1, even though I agree it's nowhere near perfect (or at least "as good as it had the potential to be" like you said). I would say they finally got the French characterization right this time (ex: when Madeleine say "I know you French love to say No" and Sylvie replies "Not really, it's just in the way you ask..." that is way more accurate to the French culture and it's a new take on the stereotype of French people always being mean and angry: I don't think I have seen this point of view depicted in american media before, at least).
The one part that made me laugh out loud for several minutes though, is when Luke complains to Emily about the exercise bikes saying "real biking is outside along the seine, that's how we Parisians do it, and that's better!" and then 3 meters away he gets into it with another biker and they start insulting each other in french, and then he turns to Emily and waves with a big smile!!! I looooved it, that is litterally the best representation of a Parisian I have ever seen 😍 We French people are all about contradictions, and we love it!
Can we discuss Camilles parents? The mother said “ listen to me and you will get him back” and we really got nothing more about the plan. Also they were fake welcoming Emily to the chateau even though they know Emily hooked up with Gabriel
Same as Mindys dad. She sent him that picture from St Tropez but nothing came out of it.
I mean, the plan was implied bc the way Camille acted was what her mom told her to do?
So it was already implied / made obvious to the audience
@@zgirlbrooks101 but what was the plan?
Your review is spot on. She creates all her own problems and then acts like the victim. 😂 Gabriel is trash. I don’t like Emily, but I don’t watch for her. The side characters and the setting keep me watching.
@@jannelledear2645 I don’t even know what this thread is but “tell me you don’t know what racism is … oh sorry that’s just your comment” 🤗✨
@@jannelledear2645 that literally hasn’t nothing to do with the original comment? With respect ✨?
I found it so ironic that Gabriel said "I'll do it because you have done so much for me" when Emily asked him to bake 80 cakes in one night (which were btw never shown in the end or am I wrong??) although she has literally never done anything for him except cause trouble.
Emily to me is a villain. I hate how they justify her bullsh*t.
I just wish shows would stop pushing the wrong guy on us always. Grabriel is gross and he started the thing with Emily while he was WITH SOMEONE. Also they have no chemistry. She had more chemistry with Alfie the first 20 mins on screen together than 2 whole seasons of her and Gabriel.
EXACTLY!!
I always laugh at her coworkers, the two guys are the funniest.
So true lol
Ikr lmao I love them
when camille’s mom pulled her aside to say “i’ll help you get him back, just do exactly as I say” and then later is treating emily a little weirdly on her visit, I was expecting some big crazy dramatic plot to be schemed up. not a lie over a pinky promise? I ended up disappointed. this show is out of touch and outlandish at times and yet they couldn’t make the drama match? I expected camille’s mom’s plan would be super crazy and at some point camille would wake up and realize… gabrielle and emily aren’t even worth the effort. neither of them care about her and she could be off finding people who do. and like abandon the crazy scheme her mom planned and that would be her character growth and exit from the show. or if she didn’t leave that we would at least get some crazy drama like gabrielle thinking emily is sabotaging his work and emily getting fired/in trouble at work and threatened with having to return home. then camille would have gabrielle to herself, you know? like some actual tv drama level backstabbing and scheming
I agree with how you put Emily, Elaina and aria in the same category. 👏🏼
They’re basically the same person lmao
@@SerenaSkybourne Not really. Elena was a pretty sweet and lovely girl for at least 2 seasons. And she was caring and ready to sacrifice herself for her friends and family. I liked her so much for being a genuinely good person at the beginning. Then her character was sacrificed for this shitty love triangle because, obviously, you can’t string two brothers along and still be considered selfless. She honestly should have remained with Stefan, they had a cute chemistry and brought the best out of each other.
@@SerenaSkybourne they really are! for me Elaina takes the cake 😂
I hated how Emily treated Alfie because Alfie only asked her to be honest with him about her and Gabriel and she continuously lies to him. He even stayed in Paris to make it work with her because he is committed and believes she is as well and she's already gone through this with that guy in s1 🙄
Exactly. I don't understand why she couldn't just say she had feelings for Gabriel but they moved past it. Or she's working on her feelings etc. IMO she & Alfie have better chemistry anyways. But now that she was clearly stringing him along I hope he dumps her.
@@Starbits7 fr fr
Alfie was also lying when he started asking Emily all this trust questions when he knew he was returning to London by that point. I think his character was wrong from start to beginning.
I agree with you on pretty much everything expect Alfie. I don't see the point in him as a love interest especially a long distance one. That worked out for the Chicago bf so well after all. Also just makes the show way more soapy by using a convoluted love triangel plot again.
He was a good antagonist at the beggining, I loved his disinterest in Emily and Paris altogether bc sometimes it's just an annoying job you have to power true. He wasn't there for romance. He was there out of obligation and a paycheck for a few weeks. It makes sense he is not interested in making friends. Not to mention how fun it was to watch Emily humiliate herself to catch his interest. Than all of a suden whitout any change/growth on Emily's part he suddenly is interested. Oww man. What a waste. There was an opportunity to develop a slow burn love/hate relationship but instead they went with the tried old route of him falling for her.
When he asked her over I know they are going to hook up. I tought ok an another poor basterd captivated by a pretty girl with shitty dating life. Then he ghosted her and that was so funny, unfortunately it didn't last long. An another wasted opportunity to teach Emily a lessons and make her reflect a bit on her choices. Insted it ends in that ridiculous long term relationship proposal. I just know he will end up like the Chicago guy. Poor sod.
What Emily should do is just go back home and reflect on herself before getting into dating again. Obviously that won't happen.
i do agree that him becoming interested in her suddenly was a bit abrupt, it came out of nowhere
Here's something from an American expat who has been living in Madrid, Spain since 2009.....over the years, I've actually met several "Emilys". Deeply unbearable rich kid babies stumbling through a year or two of "working" abroad. Oddly enough...these "Emily types" exist. It's kinda surreal.
Demonstration of a Ukrainian woman in the series offended and rooted a lot of people in my country. It was soy sed for me, because l true to learn four languages and it scares me, can people outside my country see me like that? National stereotypes are bad, they scare, because no matter how hard you try, you are still seen as a typical Petra or a trophy wife.
I understand that no one represents you better than you yourself, and therefore I draw comics with Ukrainian characters, and try to write good stories, in the hope that people will be able to see not only national stereotypes.
That Shoplifting scene was one flaw of this series. But it was just intended to make people react and contribute to the controversy. They know people will Love to take offense. And they know that intelligent people will just laugh at those who whine about the stereotypes! The Show is a COMEDY! Its about pretty people, nice clothes, great sex, and cinematography. It does seek to end work hunger or promote peace. 98% of those who watch didnt even know that girl is from Ukraine and know one who enjoyed the show is dying to know where that girl is from. No one is going to think badly about Ukraine from that scene.
As polish girl it’s offended me too this show it’s full of bad stereotypes.
okay
Well, as a slavic girl living in France I can help you feel better and tell you that I was never treated bad or seen as a stereotype. French people are NOTHING like they show them in Emily in Paris. I was shocked when I was watching this show becouse it looks like producers never went to France and have deep hatered towards other nationalities other then American. I have never met one rude person here- people are so polite, so helpful and it is a country full of diversity. No one cares how you look like, where are you from, everybody minds their own business, they are very friendly and they love to show foreigners their country, food and help with learning French language. They are also very open to other cultures and like to ask about your culture to learn and NOT just decide based on stereotypes like in this disgusting show. In my experiance out of 5 people on the street 3 will be foreigners and 2 would be French, that is how diverse it is here. I am seen here just as a European, not slavic or thropy wife or anything like that.
Furthermore, my fiance is from Middle East and he never felt any racism or bad treatment here, not once, he really enjoys living in France.
She gets away with it because she looks like Lily Collins.
@zggg89 Tell me you're a racist without... no wait you are just telling me that you're a racist.
@@TacticusPrime with respect, I don’t know what this thread is but “tell me you don’t know racism is without … oh wait sorry… that’s just your comment” ✨
@@TacticusPrime with respect, your comment doesn’t even make sense / deviates from the original point?
@@zgirlbrooks101 Emily getting away with her bullshit has nothing to do with being white. French people are white. Claiming that it's about her being white, instead of an attractive thin woman, is racist.
True, if I behaved like Emily I would get fired and slap in the face😑
If there’s a season 3 I’m only going to be watching it for Alfie
Same
He’s probably going to leave after one episode like Matthieu
EXACTEMENT
Emily out here lecturing Petra about not stealing things meanwhile she can’t seem to stop herself from stealing someone’s boyfriend……….
lmao thats a good burn
I really wanted to like Alfie but he was such an embarrassing English stereotype. Beer, pubs, football. His British language use was not even genuine- no one would use "love" like he did. It felt insincere and clunky. Most problems with season 2 were repeated from season 1- why didn't the writers/producers learn their lesson!
I love Sylvie...she reads TF out of Emily. The funniest part was when Emily wrote that stupid letter to Cammie and it didn't make sense, then Cammie wrote a better one back. Emily being so invested in a relationship with Cammie, someone she just met, doesn't make sense. I agree tho, this show is fun but it could be better with some tweaks.
Omg, I have said this so many times. Emily is so frustratingly unlikeable!!!!!!! I have tried - really tried with all my cold, cold heart - to like her from all kinds of perspectives and to exercise lots of empathy. But by the good graces of all the goods, I fucking do not like her no matter how many sweet smiles she gives everyone. I don't hate her, but she is so hard to like or even respect. It's like that girl you just don't wanna be around - not in a hateful way but in a "nah, i don't have time and energy to give this person". Honestly, Sylvie's story is way more interesting. At this point, I just glaze over Emily and Mindy's sub-plot; the two of them are the most boring characters ever. I literally fast-forwarded all the Mindy singing, an absolute waste of production money and time in every episode. Someone just make the series about the agency with Sylvie Grateau at the helm already!
I felt the same about the singing. Not that the actress isn't talented bc she is but I don't want to hesr it every singel episode.
We all know someone like this in real life🤣
love this idea!
i feel the same way. it would also be different if the show wanted us to hate emily. but no. they think emily is this nice girl who does nothing wrong and the writers of the show seem to think we would like her.
@@000AnnA000D I starting to think if they do on purpose, I mean the more you hate the more you'll watch, but I don't know
Ok. I am happy to see this video because I just watched all the episodes and something small but in my opinion, important draw my attention. Camille's teeth are not perfectly white! I know, I know, it's not a big deal but to me, she's the only character who looks... Real. I find the other young characters so fancy, super well dressed in out-of-this-world outfits. Somehow Camille is the only one who seems... Real. Her makeup seems to sometimes be less than perfect, she dresses chick but not over the top, her teeth are not all white and perfect...
I know this show is problematic but it is so bingeable and easy to watch. I was also a little sad that when the guy in Mindy's band turned out to not be gay. I want Julien to get a boyfriend.
Everything you said was correct - also super fun to listen to you almost rant about the poor decisions in this show lol
Haha thanks boo
I love your review. This is exactly what I thought of after watching the show. Everything! From Emily being ditsy & gullible and Camille being likeable to stooping down to her level.
My controversial comments here:
Why does Alfie like a less hot version of Simon Basset Duke of Hastings in Bridgerton?
I know everybody likes Mindy, but I don’t. I mean, she’s also persuading Emily in taking Gabriel back. In the last episode, she said something like “follow your heart.” She’s a friend of Camille yet sides with Emily most of the time, not rationalizing what Camille would feel. On the contrary, I like that she warned Emily that French girls are unforgiving and “why the heck did you invite camille in your vacation with Matthieu.”
yea and sometimes mindy kinda badmouth cami and being shady. idk i dont like mindy, if you see your friend gets lied to, im sure you’d want to tell them even if it costs u another friendship. it just seems so bad
ARE French girls unforgiving?? Discuss
I feel like the french people actually spoke more french than in season 1 which I enjoyed very much.
The only reason why I kinda like Emily is because of how likable Lily Collins is to me. Otherwise the character is hella annoying and also not as nice as they keep telling us.
I saw videos and comments were people shamed Camille for humiliating Emily on her birthday and breaking the pact. It's unbelievable to me how people see Camille as a villian now. They seem to forget that 1) she was the one who got betrayed by her boyfriend and friend and 2) Emily was about to break the pact herself when she showed up on his door. Camille was just faster.
Also how Emily tried to keep Camille for moving on just because she was feeling bad - how selfish can u be.
Also Mathieu had the best scene when he left Emily on the train. He was so right! Even we didn't see much of him that season, this made me respect him so much.
The most interesting character on the show imo is Sylvie, although I don't get the situation with her still-husband.
I think sylvie has an open relationship with her husband. She mentioned how he also takes lovers in st.tropez, which made me respect their relationship cuz of the way they still love and care for one another even if they’re involved with other ppl
My daughter has been living in Paris going to Parson and the French are completely, hands down beautiful, kind and we can learn a lot from them! We need to stop being so loud, shallow and stupid.
Emily is extremely unlikeable, her expressions ect………
Emily going: no he still loves you, hold on to hope" is this typical toxic positivity and guilt, where you think you help a person and don't hurt them, but in the end it might hurt them even more AND it hurts yourself (As we ve seen in the end of season 2)
Omg I know they’re supposed to be bad but I’m acc kinda obsessed with the arm warmers !!!😭💘
Stoppp 😂🙈
When Serena trying to look bad is still better than the fashion in the show 😂
@@z_202 🤣
The character of Emily comes across as a bit of a sociopath. Awful. The way she plays and uses the guys too. She has zero remorse over Camille too, if she did it doesn’t project from the actors performance. Can’t she also see she’s using Alfie. Does the character have zero ability to see that it’s wrong to use people like that? A narc? Sociopath? Extremely unrealistic too, the tiny apartment but huge expensive wardrobe of costume changes that there’s no room to store in the tiny apartment lol! By the end of a series 3, some character is going to take a hit out on her! 🤣 Best character is for sure Sylvie. Stunning effortless gorgeous older woman. But yeah, really awful cheesy writing!!
@@zinab2blessa Given that the main producer (or director?) is the same as for SATC, it just shows he is still as delusional as ever. It was the exact same thing with Carrie being a single woman living in her own apartment in NY writing a blog (or whatever her job was) and buying Louis Vuittons and Manolo Blahniks. That version of reality simply doesn't exist but they just gloss over it bc they want to have the characters in expensive clothes.
@@zinab2blessa Well actually her apartment seems very pricey for Parisian standards.
As people mentioned- same with Carrey from Sex and the city which made me suspicious of creators of these shows being sociopaths. They obviously can not write good hearted lead woman and don't understand when to punish bad behaviour in the series, justify cheating, lying... Camille said it best in her letter- Emily is an illiterate sociopath.
@@TH-pb4ux
We have had to rent apartment in Paris for 4 years that apartment on the show is an easy 2000 US $ a month!
Thank you for this i spent the entire time watching Emily in paris just hating emily lol. She is a terrible friend and a terrible girlfriend. The only good thing about this season is that they developed Sylvie and Mindy's character a little bit i found myself wanting to fast forward through all her scenes she is such a boring and annoying character which is not how you should feel about the main character.
Her outfits are horrible, I’m watching thinking that they are trying to make us laugh with how bad they are! The sunglasses????!! Really?!
it was nice to get some immersion via the language and be reminded that we are in paris. I dont know if this was filmed during the pandemic or half and half but nothing was fully developed especially the plot line for the show. the most exciting part for me was the last episode and when Gabriel mentioned his dish with tripe saying it came from his hometown. Im not sure if that is a true statement regarding dish itself, but it would be nice to explore french culture through food especially since he is a chief. there is so much to explore there and give the audience a bit of a better look into the culture, instead of the usual "we use fresh in season ingredients" as a copout. I have these same feelings regarding the fashion aspect. Very underutilized to the extent that it can be. Mainly I didn't really care for her relationship troubles etc. Obviously its not supposed to be some hard hitting drama/comedy, but could still use some more thoughtout then the very obvious amercian v french narrative. IDK ill probably continue to watch but i hope some changes are made.
I belive it was filmed this April-June.
also the fashion was so bad. i can't even believe that they truly tried to make emily look good
Waiting to wach this after I finish the season, but I just had to pop in to say your hair looks gorgeous!!
Wow thankyou!!
Not the worst part about the show, but I feel like she has a lot more chemistry with Alfie than Gabriel
Omg thank you for saying that about Elaina, I cannot stand her and I never got why I was supposed to be on her team!! Also, love your hair in this video!
Thank you so much 🤩
Love your commentaries Serena! Hope you’re having a wonderful, safe and lovely holiday!
Thanks so much 🎄💫
Literally obsessed with your hair. And also 10/10 analysis
thankyou!!
really hoping your next emily in paris video is a review of the fashion, i too could not believe what they decided to dress characters in
yes i uploaded my second video a couple of days ago- and it is indeed a fashion video haha
Sorry for my English. It’s not perfect. The most annoying thing for me was as Alfie told Emily that he’s staying in Paris longer cause he’s serious about their relationship and she should be honest with him and she gives him the feeling that she’s on the same page and then few days later she wants to get back with Gabriel. I don’t get it! Maybe we’re gonna see Emily decide to leave Paris but she’s gonna come back after a short time
I never thought of having to watch Emily and think that I had to like her just because she was a woman, but you’re absolutely right about having to support her as a main character and keep portraying her as good. I think the reason Emily‘s actions are so jarring is because she’s supposed to be the main character and since childhood the main characters in all of our story books have been good people and defenders of justice and righteousness. Our main characters do the right thing to the best of their ability and learn their lesson and except accountability.
I actually find it very refreshing to have a protagonist that’s just a bad person. A protagonist is only that, a protagonist. Maybe we should just change that term to main character because by naming someone a PROtagonist that must mean that there must be an ANtagonist in which the writers have made everyone else to get in the way of what Emily wants. Not every main character has to be liked, not every main character has to be a model citizen.
But now that you mention it, is she truly that awful of a person or is it because she’s a woman that she gets so much more vitriol than if she were a man? Buuuuut, I’ve been watching a lot of videos and everyone pretty much agrees that Gabriel is a pretty awful person too so I’m glad that there’s no double standard when it comes to how bad they are as people.
Thank you so much for paying attention and acknowledging that awful and demeaning representation of Ukrainian women. They said they were going to do better, and yet they managed to offend another culture. And Petra is not even a Ukrainian name. No research, just disrespect from the creators. Thank you for the review!
I'm sooooo excited for this one!!!
Can't wait to hear all that you have to say! Love this channel and your content! 🥰
this is so lovely, thankyou so much!
One of the most unrealistic things in this season (that I haven’t watch but every woman will tell you same things) is how the f three woman walk alone at night will wearing glitters all over them and are not scared ? Like one of the biggest problems for woman here right now are how much we get catcalled, drudged and r*ped and never this situation will happen without them being at least a little bit stressed out. So here they talk about how much « mean » we are but not of real social issues ? Sorry I’m getting a little bit heated but it’s important we talk about this stuff.
as a French, i totally agree!!!!
this!! me and my little sibling (both afab) got lost the other day and had to walk like three hours at night and i was terrified. didn’t let go of my pepper spray the whole time
@@user-ji9if5gh2p oh gosh! I'm glad you guys found your way! That's such a long time to be lost :(
@@mchjsosde thankfully it was a somewhat familiar area and i could find our way back!!
For sure in France. Maybe if it was "Emily in Japan", 3 women walking home late at night would not be too scary.
I love your videos. I always get to settle down for a small break from mom life when I watch 🤗 merry Christmas!! 🎄
Aww merry Christmas!!
Omg, I'm so glad to watch your review , I totally agree with you! The S2 was an equally shitshow, I hated the over draggy love triangle, all 3 of them were absolutely unlikeable.
They cancelled Julie and the Phantoms but keep this show. Yeah it’s an easy watch. Don’t have to think while watching it.
instead you’d just get annoyed lol
@zggg89 Julie and the Phantoms?
NO OMG
@zggg89 it was created by Kenny Ortega (He did High School Musical) and it was a nice little teen show. Julie’s mom died which affected her relationship with music. But she starts seeing ghosts of this boy band for some reason and they start making music. And for some reason everyone can see the band when they perform on stage. It was a good show and they did promise Season 2 but I think the pandemic got in the way.
@zggg89 I think the problem with Emily in Paris is most of the characters. I think Emily is an antihero like Carrie Bradshaw. And it’s just a bad representation of French people. The RUclipsr Serena mentions in the video is French and he did his own video on Emily in Paris.
This is all just easily digestible tv for me. My fav show, Prodigal Son, got cancelled on Fox. Fox is having a terrible track record with me. First Lucifer and now Prodigal Son. 🤦🏽♀️
I thought a 40 minute long review was pretty long but I couldn’t stop watching it. I literally agree with everything you just said
this is so sweet!
I don’t watch this show, but I love watching you, Amanda the Jedi & others shred it...
About to start watching!! I am so excited about this video! I do think they actually improved since season 1 so I can't wait to hear what you have to say about it!!
Just watched! You have so many great points, and I definitely agree with a lot of it. I still love this show so much just because it's entertaining and fun and provides escapism. I've seen the season twice. :D
Omg I cannot wait to watch this after school!
THANKYOU 💓💓
So glad you noticed and mentioned this strange moments with Ukrainian girl. I’m from Ukraine and was really feeling uncomfortable with them making her a thief (and talking in Ukrainian🤦♀️)
And fun fact, name Petra doesn’t even exist in Ukrainian. Would be cool if they used google to find something real 😂
By the way, I really enjoy your videos 😍, they are so great ❤️
It's not even a stereotype, it's just wrong and offensive. There was no reason for that character to even exist. So disappointed in Netflix and everyone involved in making the show. Ignorance all the way.
I'm not Ukrainian but I didn't like how they threw her in and set her up in a shop lifting scene like what the fuck
I'm always so happy when you upload!! Also you look amazing
Liana!! You're so sweet
Emily is just such an unlikely character and she won’t change.
The season is a waste of Kate Walsch. Her character was sold as the perfect fit for french culture in season 1. But they turned her into a loud tacky frappucino sucker for no reason.
It’s just so bizarre because it’s so bad it’s like there’s no way the writers can’t be self aware, so you’re constantly expecting them to turn things around and when they do something halfway decent you think “this is it! Maybe it’s not so bad” and then they just completely fail again. So strange
Idk I still think the show is meant to be a lot less deep than people are making it out to be it clearly isn’t here to teach us about French culture or any woke topics it is here to depict a spoiled girl and her fantasy life in a fantasy Paris. It’s like sex and the city and how ignorant those girls are idk why Emily gets so much hate. Her plot with Gabriel is annoying because he is annoying and he was clearly playing them both and almost wanting to have them both at once. I can understand why she didn’t instantly know what to do I mean she had a crush on the bf of a girl she genuinely liked and got caught in it and didn’t know how to get out. She did drag it in way too long and the trying to get them back together was almost more salt on the wound like girl just walk away. But I’m glad you mentioned how unlikable Gabriel is because I’ve hated him since the start. He treats Camille like he doesn’t care about her at all but then keeps going back to her when he can’t get Emily. I do think the characters were given a bit more depth this season but again it is meant to just be a silly light watch and I’m ok with that. I also like the fashion again like in sex and the city the girls always dressed sort of flamboyant and nobody criticized that. I really don’t get it like people will put up with a show like shameless where all the characters constantly make the worst possible decisions for seemingly no reason but everyone loves and praises them but they absolutely hate Emily... just make me think is a bit hateful. Overall I would give it a 5/10 I mean it’s not meant to be a masterpiece just a light entertaining show that is quick to get through and I will probably watch it til the end.
As much as I love to lazily watch this show, there are too many instances where I cannot ignore the horrid writing. I don’t understand why Emily is forcing the friendship with Camille, she needs to take accountability and walk away from the friendship. I just did not find it realistic.I also did not understand how we were supposed to believe she went away on a paid trip with some friends, instead of going on the vacation, then we find Slyvie and her husband mysteriously at the same location. I think the writers could have found an easier way to introduce that relationship. The French class and instance with Petra…. Where do I begin?!?!
I’m so glad i ran into your chanel, i love your videos 😍
Yay! Thank you!
My biggest issue with Emily is her hair lol. So artificial, stiff and boring, the worst hairstyle out of everyone in the show this season (imo).
Its like the barbie have that gets sewn on to the box!
And so outdated! What is going on in this show, it is fashion based and so many stylists yet everything looks like its year 2011! I just don't understand.
Ikr, but still so many girls do that hairstyle, and refuse to change, for a fucking decade
For me also ridiculous is that in the show characters (especially Emily) wear
extravagance, "chic", elegant cloth (like from the red carpet (every time)). There are no cosy cloth, basic t-shirt and jeans. I know that there are working for a luxury French marketing company, but still (even Kate Middelton wear jeans).
I am a ukrainian, and this show made me feel so mad and sad... We are not like that. We are fighting for our freedom and good representation of our country for over 30 years (as well as other slav countries), and then they give us this... it's insulting...
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What shirt are you wearing cuz it's super cute
Hello first time viewing your video. Good job👍. Can you please tell me the hair color you used for that affect? Thank you 😊
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What’s annoying me most is that although two people (Gabriel and Emily) were involved in cheating on Camille, only the girl is made responsible for that. What about Gabriel? Nobody questions his behaviour, he just seems to be neutral, while two women are fighting over his unfaithful personality. The show even represents him as if he was a prize to win. I don’t like that Camille is even trying to win him back. She deserves so much better. While there are many cliches they brought on this show, there‘s also the internalised misogyny in our society that’s portrayed so accurately. They could have done better.
As a person that's never seen this show I absolutely LOVE watching videos about it 😂
I've only watched 12 minutes of S2s1 (could not make it through) and I already understood everything and am on the same page as you for all these 40 mins :) I also saw a poster of Emily & Alfie, which looked like the makers of the series were trying to create a 'team Gabriel' and 'team Alfie' 🤦♀
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It is about an artistic agents company, whose clients are played by famous french actors in their own role (Isabelle Adjani, Jean Dujardin …)
I don’t know if the show was broadcasted outside of France, but if you get the chance …
Can we also talk about the fact that Emily was trying to get Camille and Gabriel back together ONLY because she knew she was going to be leaving Paris? She was constantly giving Camille hope that they will get back together but as soon as she finds out she may be staying in Paris she goes to get her man Gabriel and has the audacity to actually act hurt when she sees that Camille and Gabriel got back together. Like she instantly went to get him not caring about Camille one bit even though she had been giving her all this hope? What a shitty thing to do.
She’s such a loser
At some point during the restaurant launch, Camille offered to ´help´ by serving the guests some Champere, which I thought would be an obvious ploy of her to sabotage the launch, since it´s been made clear over and over again that the champagne is gross as hell. But it never went anywhere!!! That just seems like such inconsistent writing. Boo.
Also the band never noticed Mindy was always wearing super expensive designer clothing? Yeah right.
I love your points
Funny how nobody talks about the show still treating an adult woman having sexual reactions with an underage child is wrong. If Emily was a twenty year old man named, Emile and slept with a 15 year old girl it'd be a whole different thing. God hypocrisy pisses me off.
Spoilers (obviously)
Some positives: 1) I did appreciate they were using the French language more. 2) I liked learning a little more about the other characters. 3) I liked that Camille didn't forgive Emily right away. 4) I really liked that they made Madeline look brutish & rude. Was it intentional? I don't know but she really was rude so that made the French characters look even more likeable. 5) I like that Sylvie took control and is going to create a new company. Power move.
Now...
I do find Emily annoying for many of the reasons you mentioned. After Camille found out about them she had asked about Emily's feelings and she lied again. She should have at least at that point said she had mixed feelings or something. Be honest because at that point she had to. So now is this stupid love triangle going to be dragged out to season 3? And I hate Gabriel as a character now... I liked him in the first few episodes of season 1 but as soon as they made him a love interest I got bored. Lost interest in him by the end of season 1. Now I too find him kinda gross.
I like Alfie's character but hate that they had Emily strung him along. Their relationship started so truthful too and then of course they had to just string him along. So sick of shows doing that.
I really liked Petra's character at the beginning. She was adorable. The shoplifting thing was stupid. I mean...WHY. Why couldn't they have just done a weird misunderstanding like their crappy french Petra thinks Emily offered to pay or something and walks out with something....or vice versa then they take stuff back and it becomes a funny story at the start of a new friendship. A friendship which would have let Emily understand more about the world & that part of Europe & possibly learn a little of the Slavic language. But NO they had to just do a cheap shoplifting storyline... gag me.
I also hate that everyone falls in love with Emily. She's not likeable.
Also, does Emily have any friends in the USA? We never had even a glimpse of her friends there. No phone conversations...no friends coming to visit. And she doesn't ever talk about being home sick or is ever seen talking to her parents. Nothing. I think that's a big mistake because love her or hate her, seeing those things would humanize her more.
Lazy writing
i zoned out and for like 20 seconds i thought the ''Emily" you were talking about was from pll
I wanted Emily and cami to be together not boys it makes me so mad
Saving this to my watch later coz im only up to the first episode
See you soon then! 😍♥️
@@SerenaSkybourne I’m back.
Honestly Gabriel’s awful haircut really matched his awful personality in this season 😬
And i defs think Camille has something planned to sabotage Emily because didnt Cami’s mum say “do exactly as i say” or something?!?! Like for sure she’s plotting something. I’m sad that she didnt let it go because that would really highlight how Cami is mature and wronged and Emily did the wrong thing and betrayed a friend instead of transforming Emily into a victim?? Like i think they will use Camille’s revenge to make Emily seem like the victim instead of the backstabber who slept with her friends bf behind her back.
Also - I’m from Europe so i get it but i found that sauna scene so weird. Like did it serve any purpose??? I dont understand.
My boyfriend and i loved Alfie and he functioned to make us hate Emily more..?? Like her playing with his feelings while she clearly still wants Gabriel.
Mindy and Sylvie are defs my favourite characters.
Gabriel is such an awful character. How can Emily be attracted to a guy that would stay with his ex out of convenience?? Like he’ll stay with Camille because there’s no one better rather than be honest that he’s not in love anymore. That is so weak.
ALSO it bothered me so much when the cast spoke English when they were all French speakers and there were no native english speakers around.
Overall its enjoyable but in that trashy fun way not in that jaw dropping existential well written way.
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Mindy’s storyline was dull af. I also don’t like her singing voice. And yes the wardrobe’s don’t make sense! Why would you wear super expensive clothes and not pay rent to your friend for living at her place 😂
honestly! They were probably already hers before she was cut off by her dad but girl...sell them! A few thousand euros get you at least a little far, even in Paris
Who would give money to street buskers if they wear that expensive clothes?!
This, I wholeheartedly agree with at least 90% of it. Good job!
Hello, first time watching your video, it was a great and fair review. English is not my first language but I really like the way how you speak and articulate things, your explanation was very clear and straight to the point. Keep up the good work👌
I'm so sorry but I don't know why I'm keep getting distracted when I'm watching straight looking at the screen, cant concentrate but I'm trying very hard.
At least you tried! :)
Ok the love triangle or is it love square?
This is Darren Star doing a discount version of sex and the city in Paris.
Emily is Carrie. Gabriel is Big. Camille is Natasha (who deserves better). Wish she just moved on from Gabriel completely.
Alfie is Aidan.
Now we have to deal with this back and forth for 4 more seasons.
I ship Camille and Mathieu at this point. There is a good story there, but the writing is not focused on good stories.
The three characters I like Camille, Luke, and Mathieu.
I liked Emily at first until I saw all of Carrie’s bad qualities in her and I stopped caring.
I just started the video, but I've been watching a bit recently and I genuinely can't tell if you're British or Australian. You have an aussie twang to your voice, but also have British inflections 😂
I’ve lived in both places 😂
Also WHY did I have to hear Mindy sing EVERY GOD DAMN EPISODE? Last time I checked this wasn't HSM. It took me out the show every single time. Idc THAT much about her to hear her open her gob every episode!
I know, right? After the second time I just skipped forward.
The fashion remains a disaster, with the exception of the purple glitter dress and Couregges jacket. That was a moment.