nice job, maybe a couple microwave transformers would help out with a supercapacator bank(lithium backed), have start and run battery banks, when a couple alternators get up to speed to start a generating takeover instead of trying to store the energy generated run it more direct, I'd like to put together a homemade drone maybe even passenger I'm not interested flying the idea is to tow the weight of whatever runs the propellers(probably including hydraulics), turn a couple small excavators arms upside down and pivot the frame for the propellers with it hovering 5 to 6ft in front and above the frame in tow controlled by a virtual headset, maybe with a follow drone for the signal relay, you can get some pretty good watts of the car stereo designed alternators feed it all into a a.c. or dc motor
You have two motors so stearing is practically done. Just go for one swivel wheel on front of the vehicle and stear by different drivewheel speeds. Nice project!
I very much look forward to to seeing this project move forward. For months I've been trying to wrap my head around how to do something similar with smaller universal motors taken out of vacuum cleaners.
Nifty! I agree with the skid-steer folks, just put a heavy swivel caster up front. My only other suggestion is to make it an autonomous snow plow that follows a route and pushes snow to clear a driveway or walkway. Plow up/plow down would be the only additional moving part. Looking forward to the next video. Great work!
Its very cool how you reuse washing machine motors. I live in Canada and it is a little more difficult. The motors here are induction motors with motor capacitor on the start winding
yes in the uk and europe, washing machines use many different speeds and reverse during the cycle, (and variable spin speeds after the wash) front loaders do more, im supposing you have the same top loaders as the usa, where an agitation action is all that is used, thus a simpler motor, but if you see bigclives latest video, it seems the newer way is to use induction again but havea phase speed controller
You can still reuse them. Ihave several in use for wire wheels/buffers/sharpening wheels. I think the Europeans are more efficiency aware so that is why they chose to design around those motors and use front loaders. Here most washing machines are still top loaders.
Also I have noticed thar front loads now, in Canada, are using 3 phase brushless dc motors. And I have noticed that in Europe they do design more efficiently. And thanks for pointing me towards BigClive.
I was actually thinking about building an automated street sweeper garbage collection device with washing machine motors. I've got some experience with automation and Arduino projects. Thank you for your helpful videos
In North America, at least, we generally say "nyloc" for those nuts with the plastic in them, a pseudo portmanteau of "nylon" and "lock". Thanks for the vid, looks like a fun project and I await your next installment!
Hi, I just stumbled onto your videos and I have to say they are great, and thank you for making them. I'm a sculptor in the US and I have a Miller Bobcat welder/generator that I built a rolling cart for. It works great for moving it around the shop, but the Bobcat weighs so much that its nearly impossible to load onto my trailer by myself. Nearly 600 pounds with fuel, or 275 Kilos. I too love to engineer/construct kinetic devices, but I honestly don't have the depth of understanding that you do when it comes to choosing the right combination of components. I love this video, and your use of washing machine motors. Do you think a setup like yours in this video would provide enough torque to move my generator up a 10-20 degree grade? And my other concerns would be speed control and direction control (forward/backward). I will continue following your videos to learn more, but was hoping you could tell me if this sounds like a viable option. Thank you! Nice work!...oh, another key bit of information: I would like to power the motor/motors with the generator itself, so that I don't need batteries or anything. So the motors could be AC or DC via the generator.
I build a rc mower before, and actually haven't push a mower over 4 years , but I used different motors. The washer motors you're using are exposed so dirt and water will get in it which will destroy it in few months. The tires will not get any traction on grass or dirt road, the homemade plastic belt guide will goes off track . After all said and done this thing will weight a ton with all those metals. Check my old rc mower videos to see how many frame versions I have . This topic has beaten to death and there's no was to set it autonomous
Excellent work! I'm guessing the motors will have a lot of torque. Probably spin the belts you have on it now, so perhaps a chain or serpentine belt? Very interesting!
Hi ! The torque will twist the M8 bolts compared to the rubber wheels for sure - you have to support them much more ! The belt will self-center because there is a little "crowning" on the caster wheel.
This is the stuff I subscribed for and the only channel for which I am turning off my adblocker. Must have been a lot of work but its always worth the waiting!
Richard, convex (a crown instead of a valley) would actually help belt tracking (weird physics, that's the way bandsaws track). Ideally he should instead mount them in the lathe and cut a proper square "U" shaped groove, like this: | |______| |
I was really lucky when I searched for old motors. My family's washing machine broke and when they bought a new one they said I could take whatever I want out of it. Then another identical washing machine was thrown out next to my house so I picked some parts out of it well.
I think you should revisit how you mounted the casters ("pulleys") to the wheels. Even with 8 bolts those will eventually bend or rip out of the casters.
it's a beast. when I first started playing with electronics- arduino and so on I bought a 4wd robot kit and is still a great learning tool. at the time using 2x l293d H bridge ic's :-)
I like where this is heading. I have been considering something very similar. Hollow frame tubing with a washing machine motor driving. You have done well to get both motors at the same speed. I only have one motor and I am not convinced I will be that lucky if I find another washing machine motor. Control is of course possible and within my realm of expertise but I will take quite some time to get that right so I prefer the mechanical solution. Single driving motor with bicycle sprockets and chains. Its easy for me to get them locally and quite forgiving with alignment and tension.
Great idea, I don't think that these WM motors have enough torque with the smaller pulley at the wheels. But I am sure you will invent a way around it.
Great stuff. Love the idea of taking motors and reusing them in a little buggy. This is the kind of thing we'll need to know after the zombie apocalypse! 😜🤓👍🏴
The original motor mounts had bushings. Shame they couldn't be made to work. Also, Those are actually called "sealed lead acid" batteries or SLA btteies
20 seconds in and I feel like I need a Xanax ! He turned a chemical compound into metal lol Of course it works, you plugged the motors into a lower supply that has a direct drive to the wheels.
Two motors allow for more power and you can also use them for steering if you would go for a three-wheeled design. It would also be possible to run them at slightly different speeds and use them as an "electronic differential". Those were my reasons for installing two motors.
hi. spring loaded electrical motor mounts are readily available, or you can make them to keep belt tension. for my experience i suggest you plan for some cover for the belts as they are easily derailed by debris or small rocks that the wheels could pick up. a skid steer type vehicle should be something to consider providing you have two transmissions
It is not a big diffirence in diameter betwwen the wheel and the washing machine poulley, why not using the lighter poulleys as wheel where the belts can act as tracks? Also, the steering is most simple on tracks vehicle.
Nice. I'd put the white pulley wheels on a lathe and cut a v-grove in the surface to make the pulley belt self centre into it when tight. Was there any room to put the motors under instead of over the frame?
ANY of the sleeves on a wall anchor that's the diameter of the shaft used here are excellent as bearing spacers for these wheels as they do not come with such a thing. It's worth investing in the 10 15 euros in four such bolts for a project as the bearings are horrid on their own. ALSO, such four bolts can be transformed in to axles themselves if welded to a T profile length of iron. Myself i've done this and it works beautifully. My wheels can take 178kg per wheel (goes much wider if you put a spacer in between the two split rims and widen the wheel) and i've moved after my bicycle a load that was 342 kgs at 14 km/h. VERY good as such, and it's a worthy way to make an axle if buying the stock is too expensive in one's area, or, as i've noted with a few of my friends, next to impossible. I'm blessed to live in a capital, others, are not.
Nice build man! Can I ask you why you didn't just connect wheels to the motors directly instead of using a belt in between? What are the disadvantages of connect them together directly?
I'm afraid that when you put some load on it and the belts don't slip what is good ,but those long flimsy M6 rods will twist and bend easy. Hope i'm wrong there, Very nice project BTW.
So are you going to use the two main motors for turning as well, by driving one in one direction and the other in the other direction or have an extra motor for turning?
How soon do you think you will get to assembling your lathe? It would seem that you could treat those motors almost as steppers in that a simple controller might send out sets of polarization cycles making rear-wheel-driven steering possible. This might allow non-steered swivel king pins for the front end, thereby avoiding any mechanical front steering. It all looks like fun.
Cut the plastic axle flange down some so the belt drive sits against the rim. It will be stronger against the rim flange. and your bolts won't flex or bend. looks like it will fit good against the wheel rim.
Try bicycle sprockets and bicycle chain instead of pulleys and rubber belts, I think you will find that you can achieve better torque or power transmission to the drive wheels when adding more weight to future renditions of this robot you are wanting to build.
Hey guys, I just build a second one (with windshield wiper motors: ruclips.net/video/k7XKJWinG2U/видео.html
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Richard Wilcoxen hello, please I needed someone who can translate and convert the consumption in generator into meter gauge
nice job, maybe a couple microwave transformers would help out with a supercapacator bank(lithium backed), have start and run battery banks, when a couple alternators get up to speed to start a generating takeover instead of trying to store the energy generated run it more direct, I'd like to put together a homemade drone maybe even passenger I'm not interested flying the idea is to tow the weight of whatever runs the propellers(probably including hydraulics), turn a couple small excavators arms upside down and pivot the frame for the propellers with it hovering 5 to 6ft in front and above the frame in tow controlled by a virtual headset, maybe with a follow drone for the signal relay, you can get some pretty good watts of the car stereo designed alternators feed it all into a a.c. or dc motor
Vincent Telfer that sounds interesting. Hope you make a video
@@justicejustice2325 a prototype would be cool
You have two motors so stearing is practically done. Just go for one swivel wheel on front of the vehicle and stear by different drivewheel speeds. Nice project!
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I very much look forward to to seeing this project move forward. For months I've been trying to wrap my head around how to do something similar with smaller universal motors taken out of vacuum cleaners.
Your intro never gets old
I wish they would answer the phone!!!
Post is back for good now🙌😁
Nifty! I agree with the skid-steer folks, just put a heavy swivel caster up front. My only other suggestion is to make it an autonomous snow plow that follows a route and pushes snow to clear a driveway or walkway. Plow up/plow down would be the only additional moving part. Looking forward to the next video. Great work!
Any chance you're gonna continue this project? Looks like a really promising base with not much left to do to make it amazing.
Its very cool how you reuse washing machine motors. I live in Canada and it is a little more difficult. The motors here are induction motors with motor capacitor on the start winding
yes in the uk and europe, washing machines use many different speeds and reverse during the cycle, (and variable spin speeds after the wash) front loaders do more, im supposing you have the same top loaders as the usa, where an agitation action is all that is used, thus a simpler motor, but if you see bigclives latest video, it seems the newer way is to use induction again but havea phase speed controller
You can still reuse them. Ihave several in use for wire wheels/buffers/sharpening wheels. I think the Europeans are more efficiency aware so that is why they chose to design around those motors and use front loaders. Here most washing machines are still top loaders.
Also I have noticed thar front loads now, in Canada, are using 3 phase brushless dc motors. And I have noticed that in Europe they do design more efficiently. And thanks for pointing me towards BigClive.
I was actually thinking about building an automated street sweeper garbage collection device with washing machine motors. I've got some experience with automation and Arduino projects. Thank you for your helpful videos
In North America, at least, we generally say "nyloc" for those nuts with the plastic in them, a pseudo portmanteau of "nylon" and "lock".
Thanks for the vid, looks like a fun project and I await your next installment!
Alec J same in the uk
I believe Nyloc is the original trademark for the product.
i watched you in somalia and all your videos they helped me more and want to thank you for your invention
You have a better drill press than my school.
I love videos where there is explanation instead of useless cancer-giving music
Its interesting that you recycle your old things to create new amazing things
Eager to listen to more of your material!
Hi, I just stumbled onto your videos and I have to say they are great, and thank you for making them. I'm a sculptor in the US and I have a Miller Bobcat welder/generator that I built a rolling cart for. It works great for moving it around the shop, but the Bobcat weighs so much that its nearly impossible to load onto my trailer by myself. Nearly 600 pounds with fuel, or 275 Kilos. I too love to engineer/construct kinetic devices, but I honestly don't have the depth of understanding that you do when it comes to choosing the right combination of components. I love this video, and your use of washing machine motors. Do you think a setup like yours in this video would provide enough torque to move my generator up a 10-20 degree grade? And my other concerns would be speed control and direction control (forward/backward). I will continue following your videos to learn more, but was hoping you could tell me if this sounds like a viable option. Thank you! Nice work!...oh, another key bit of information: I would like to power the motor/motors with the generator itself, so that I don't need batteries or anything. So the motors could be AC or DC via the generator.
I build a rc mower before, and actually haven't push a mower over 4 years , but I used different motors. The washer motors you're using are exposed so dirt and water will get in it which will destroy it in few months. The tires will not get any traction on grass or dirt road, the homemade plastic belt guide will goes off track . After all said and done this thing will weight a ton with all those metals. Check my old rc mower videos to see how many frame versions I have . This topic has beaten to death and there's no was to set it autonomous
can't wait to see the final build of this robot
that's remarkably smooth and quiet. Well Done!!
Just add a car seat and you'll have an electric car... :D
its mains ac powered, remove the wheels and youd have an electric chair :)
Probably work better than a Chevy Volt... LOL
add some wings and you have an electric plane!
Pretty sure you can short power to ground and it would brake the motor, so the brakes should be easy.
Crux161 have you seen electric cars? Which ones are stupidity using a transmission? Look at what Tesla is doing.
Excellent work! I'm guessing the motors will have a lot of torque. Probably spin the belts you have on it now, so perhaps a chain or serpentine belt? Very interesting!
Hi !
The torque will twist the M8 bolts compared to the rubber wheels for sure - you have to support them much more !
The belt will self-center because there is a little "crowning" on the caster wheel.
This is the stuff I subscribed for and the only channel for which I am turning off my adblocker. Must have been a lot of work but its always worth the waiting!
Does he get paid if we watch the ads?
Cosmo Najaf yes
Go to your local auto scrap yard- serpentine belts, pulleys, and tensioners are usually cheap. The grooved belt will help with alignment.
Just signed up to support you on patreon. The value of what I have learned on your channel motivated me to support it. Thanks for your videos!!
Pro tip: In the US, sometimes it's cheaper to buy a hand truck, take the wheels off, then throw away the hand truck, than it is to buy the wheels.
Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
Awesome project. Anxiously awaiting more videos.
Looks a bit like a simple Mars Rover ! 🙂
Use caster wheels on the front and steer with differential power on the motors.
rear and power on front
That's a great idea! Way easier than constructing a full steering system. Also saves the cost of a servo.
Richard, convex (a crown instead of a valley) would actually help belt tracking (weird physics, that's the way bandsaws track). Ideally he should instead mount them in the lathe and cut a proper square "U" shaped groove, like this: | |______| |
An interesting video on concave vs convex physics with "rolling" objects:
ruclips.net/video/Ku8BOBwD4hc/видео.html
Exactly!
It's just a matter of controlling the motors separately for steering capabilities... (I think)
Good job, can't wait to see next steps.
You could run chains from the rear wheels to the front wheels, use the independent motors to steer.
Kindve like a tank
Back to experiments. It's so good to see.
What formal training do you have? You seem to know a lot about everything
I have a feeling that with the motors at top speed and that belt arrangement that this little beast would make highway speeds.
This is gonna be fun.
For real.
I was really lucky when I searched for old motors. My family's washing machine broke and when they bought a new one they said I could take whatever I want out of it. Then another identical washing machine was thrown out next to my house so I picked some parts out of it well.
I think you should revisit how you mounted the casters ("pulleys") to the wheels. Even with 8 bolts those will eventually bend or rip out of the casters.
This project is a nice continuation with the washingmachine motors. Autonomy, later on... Hard to wait, looking forward to that.
I just discovered your channel, it is awesome!
it's a beast. when I first started playing with electronics- arduino and so on I bought a 4wd robot kit and is still a great learning tool.
at the time using 2x l293d H bridge ic's :-)
You could easily build spring loaded belt tensioners, with rollers.as when you add wieght you will probably need them
I like where this is heading. I have been considering something very similar. Hollow frame tubing with a washing machine motor driving.
You have done well to get both motors at the same speed. I only have one motor and I am not convinced I will be that lucky if I find another washing machine motor. Control is of course possible and within my realm of expertise but I will take quite some time to get that right so I prefer the mechanical solution. Single driving motor with bicycle sprockets and chains. Its easy for me to get them locally and quite forgiving with alignment and tension.
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Interesting project!
dual motors. you dont need articulating steering, just control it tank style
Did Clive donate his old washing machine to you? :P
probably, since he bought a new one :-D
A power tool would be much more interesting than a robot.
I wonder if cutting grooves in pulley would make it less likely to slip.
Industrial shop-cleaning roomba? Or maybe a mobile tool-box!
Whatever you have this robot do, it'll be interesting!
Great idea, I don't think that these WM motors have enough torque with the smaller pulley at the wheels. But I am sure you will invent a way around it.
Great stuff. Love the idea of taking motors and reusing them in a little buggy. This is the kind of thing we'll need to know after the zombie apocalypse! 😜🤓👍🏴
I like where this is going! Hope it turns into a Mars-rover-like vehicle. Maybe you could explore remote areas via cell connection and solar panels
The original motor mounts had bushings. Shame they couldn't be made to work. Also, Those are actually called "sealed lead acid" batteries or SLA btteies
Instead of having 2 fixed unpowered wheels, consider a single caster wheel, to make steering easier :D
20 seconds in and I feel like I need a Xanax !
He turned a chemical compound into metal lol
Of course it works, you plugged the motors into a lower supply that has a direct drive to the wheels.
Yay the old intro is back!!!
you mean that annoying music!
I would love to see those encoder motors running with the light sensors!
i really love this project
You could also turn it by turning on only one motor on the rear. What do you think
Two motors allow for more power and you can also use them for steering if you would go for a three-wheeled design. It would also be possible to run them at slightly different speeds and use them as an "electronic differential". Those were my reasons for installing two motors.
We want you to build a cart out of that
You should try to publish a small book for your tutorial or other ideas that you can sell on your site.
Man that's cool get some batteries and steering and put a chair on it you can drive it anywhere.
hi. spring loaded electrical motor mounts are readily available, or you can make them to keep belt tension. for my experience i suggest you plan for some cover for the belts as they are easily derailed by debris or small rocks that the wheels could pick up. a skid steer type vehicle should be something to consider providing you have two transmissions
You should enter a robot into the UK version of robot wars
Going to need a longer cable D - Stay Safe
I can't wait to see the DIY Arduino motor controller
I look forward to the next episode :D
It is not a big diffirence in diameter betwwen the wheel and the washing machine poulley, why not using the lighter poulleys as wheel where the belts can act as tracks?
Also, the steering is most simple on tracks vehicle.
Nice. I'd put the white pulley wheels on a lathe and cut a v-grove in the surface to make the pulley belt self centre into it when tight. Was there any room to put the motors under instead of over the frame?
Since its a 110v you can only run it with an extension cord?
YEY! Finally another vid.
If someone wanted to get started in electronics already having a “ very “ basic knowledge< at best, where would you point them?
🎶Pow pow Power Wheels! Pow Power Wheels! POWER WHEELS! Now I'm driving for real!🎶
ANY of the sleeves on a wall anchor that's the diameter of the shaft used here are excellent as bearing spacers for these wheels as they do not come with such a thing. It's worth investing in the 10 15 euros in four such bolts for a project as the bearings are horrid on their own.
ALSO, such four bolts can be transformed in to axles themselves if welded to a T profile length of iron. Myself i've done this and it works beautifully. My wheels can take 178kg per wheel (goes much wider if you put a spacer in between the two split rims and widen the wheel) and i've moved after my bicycle a load that was 342 kgs at 14 km/h.
VERY good as such, and it's a worthy way to make an axle if buying the stock is too expensive in one's area, or, as i've noted with a few of my friends, next to impossible. I'm blessed to live in a capital, others, are not.
Have you considered what to do about braking?
Could use motor braking but that tends to be more gradual in comparison to an automobile.
Nice build man! Can I ask you why you didn't just connect wheels to the motors directly instead of using a belt in between? What are the disadvantages of connect them together directly?
I'm afraid that when you put some load on it and the belts don't slip what is good ,but those
long flimsy M6 rods will twist and bend easy.
Hope i'm wrong there,
Very nice project BTW.
You don't need a steering system in a 4 wheel robot, you only need to invert the drive on each side so it will rotate like a tank.
I saw the preview pic and thought "Don't die!"
Cool project! Also, I learned a new German word from your grinder - flott = great
super narration keep it up!
So are you going to use the two main motors for turning as well, by driving one in one direction and the other in the other direction or have an extra motor for turning?
Mike_ X
How soon do you think you will get to assembling your lathe? It would seem that you could treat those motors almost as steppers in that a simple controller might send out sets of polarization cycles making rear-wheel-driven steering possible. This might allow non-steered swivel king pins for the front end, thereby avoiding any mechanical front steering. It all looks like fun.
that occured to me
Add two more motors and make a skidsteer
Cut the plastic axle flange down some so the belt drive sits against the rim. It will be stronger against the rim flange. and your bolts won't flex or bend. looks like it will fit good against the wheel rim.
Very nice video, but why does your drill turn counter clockwise at 2:26 ? Or is it a camera illusion?
It did not reverse the engines, but it works. Reversing switch.👍👍👍👍like Brazil creative.
Just going out for a spin cycle.
Really interesting!
How can I run this with batteries? I don't need high rpm. Thank you
Hi friend why two motors are used for it, is 1motor is not enough for empty trolley?
Oh man a robot wife in the future. You Gonna get some of that.
this idea would be cool to try to turn this idea into a scooter by just adding a seat and handle bars
I wish I had the patience (and probably smarts) required to do anything even remotely in-depth as this...lol
Try bicycle sprockets and bicycle chain instead of pulleys and rubber belts, I think you will find that you can achieve better torque or power transmission to the drive wheels when adding more weight to future renditions of this robot you are wanting to build.
Ooh. Look. A vehicle powered by washing machine motors.
I've never seen anything like it in my life.
Apart from the ill fated "Sinclair C5"!
Can i use this motor to make food waste shredder machine? Do you know how to connect gearbox to it? Thank you.
good video, thanks. Seeing some run out on your wheels reminds me of your lathe project... What happened to your lathe?
No burn outs or wheelies, I do not approve.
good to know that after apocalypse they will be still delivering steel bars.